T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-01
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 01 00:00:25 2004
00:54 * rxr soon off - trying to get more sleep then last night
01:05 < rxr> n8
06:31 < jsaw_> RXR: where's the linux-kernel source package???
06:32 < jsaw_> cloop and linux-drm fail due to this...
07:50 < jsaw_> well okay... they fail anyway... :(
09:31 < rxr> we decided that the linux-src packags os just dump - waste space on instaled systems and especially the cd
09:31 < rxr> and this default kernel crap is annoying anway - since you get the modules only for that kernel ...
09:32 < rxr> the packages will be modified next week to hook into any linux* package and build at the enf of the linux* build - so no default kernel crap and modules for every kernel available ...
10:21 < martin> hi valentin! Happy birthday to you. :-)
10:28 < rxr> hehe, wie are at r4141 ;-)
10:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.231.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
10:52 -!- Topic for #t2: t2:HEAD lookg good - much fun heating your flat compiling
10:52 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 1 00:45:23 2004]
10:52 [Users #t2]
10:52 [ jsaw_] [ martin] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ rxr_] [ valentin]
10:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 6 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normal]
10:52 < martin> rxr is this the oss or the alsa device?
10:52 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
10:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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10:53 < martin> rxr_ h
10:53 < martin> hi
10:55 < valentin> moin
10:55 < valentin> i guess it is alsa
10:56 < valentin> no, oss
10:56 * valentin confused
10:56 < martin> hi valentin, happy birthday to you, again :-)
10:56 < valentin> thx
10:57 < valentin> remember: never start an evening with mai tai
11:06 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.250.31.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
11:09 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:09 < rxr> re
11:09 * rxr breakfasting ...
11:09 < rxr> valentin: .oO
11:28 < martin> snd-mixer-oss (/dev/mixer) will work. But this is not the real ALSA mixer, or?
11:28 * martin is away (Uni ...)
11:41 < rxr> when you have the alsa driver (snd-powermac) in your kerne
11:41 < rxr> and you use snd-mixer-oss then /dev/mixer will be an emulation controlling the real alsa mixer ..
14:10 < martin> rxr: and where is the "real" alsa mixer? /dev ...?
14:11 < rxr> /dev/snd/???
14:11 < rxr> why?
14:12 < rxr> controlC0 most probably
14:12 < rxr> but you do not need to mess with those with ALSA, this is transparently handled by the alsa library ...
14:13 < rxr> martin: when you are at uni, ... - are there more up-to-date p2 klausur "termine" then on the photos?
14:13 < rxr> I miss my math lecture by schrameck (or what the name spelling was)
14:13 < rxr> ...
14:14 < martin> rxr: Schechonk? Ma1/2/3? We work at BlinkenINI
14:16 < martin> rxr: what is the right option for pbbuttonsd.conf? controlC0 will not work.
14:17 < rxr> 2
14:17 < rxr> no not schechonk - schrameck or schramek or so ..
14:23 < martin> schramek@rz.hu-berlin.de (but don't work?!)
14:24 < rxr> I do not know an email address of him
14:46 < rxr> hm - I think I need to update spamassassin, in the hope it would block some more junk - the ammount spamassassin 2.6x (I think) is letter thru is increasing every day ...
14:55 < rxr> valentin: I found a orignal Windows 95 and NT 4.0 copy here in my stack - maybe they form a nice birthday present?
14:56 < rxr> and even a WinME partial OEM edition that came with my 1st laptop ...
14:56 < rxr> *g*
15:07 < valentin> rxr: huh ?
15:08 < rxr> just joking ...
15:08 < rxr> sorry - due to dietlibc trouble in the install target I can not hand a t2 cd to you today :-(
15:31 < rxr> oh my - ullirch drepper to soem sgi guy: "Did you ever hear about a concept called binary compatiblity? Don't
15:31 < rxr> bother working on any glibc patch."
15:31 < rxr> ...
15:35 < jsaw_> re
15:37 < rxr> hi jsaw_ !
15:37 < jsaw_> rxr: dropping linux-src? hmmm. I don't understand this, but... (me prefers to build my own adapted kernel after install)
15:38 < jsaw_> hi rxr
15:38 < jsaw_> 1303 builds total, 287 completed fine, 9 with errors.
15:39 < jsaw_> what's the dietlibc trouble?
15:39 < rxr> yes - you'll get some more gnome-2.8 errrors ...
15:39 < rxr> just started to look at it - it already gives some problems during tar, ...
15:39 < rxr> I guess nothing big - just s.t. to adapt or so ...
15:40 < rxr> (maybe I should also start to build generic, too - not only my desktop subset - so /me do not annoy jsaw_ with too many straight foward failures ... ;-)
15:41 < jsaw_> oh, there's nothing big there. no unusual problems :)
15:41 < rxr> but I'm afrait you might get some for all the other packges I do not build regularly ... :-(
15:41 < rxr> but we'll see
15:41 < jsaw_> (or at least no that many if considering the fact I tried a linux 2.6 build...)
15:42 < rxr> the gnome-2.8 update does cause some ugly problems - quite many gnome based apps fail to link ...
15:42 < rxr> would be cool if you as a gnome expert could take a look ...
15:42 < jsaw_> :)
15:42 < mnemoc> moin
15:42 < rxr> although the basics and nautilus and co link fine ...
15:42 < rxr> hi mnemoc!
15:42 < jsaw_> hi mnemoc
15:43 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jsaw_
15:53 < rxr> ok - let's see if I can track the dietlibc tar thing before I'm off to valentin's birthday sit-in
15:53 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:57 < rxr> what uhm?
15:57 < rxr> birthday sit-in or dietlibc? ;-)
15:58 < rxr> hm - this just seems to work - only the inclusion of wchar.h from glibc does produce a tons of erros ..
16:00 < mnemoc> dietlibc-tar
16:00 < mnemoc> ic
16:01 < jsaw_> <- takes a nap, cu l8r
16:01 < rxr> cu jsaw_
16:01 < rxr> mw away, soon
16:12 < rxr> == 10/02/04 16:13:22 =[1]=> Finished building package tar.
16:12 < rxr> ok - I know how to fix it - but the commit must wait until I'm back ..
16:12 < rxr> too late already anyway - cu
16:15 < mnemoc> late??
16:25 < valentin> mnemoc: rxr is on the way to me.
16:26 < valentin> he wanted to arrive i 3 minutes, so he is late
16:30 < mnemoc> .oO( i thought you were roommates )o
18:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:07 * rxr @ valentin
18:08 < rxr> no - I have a flat for my own .. :-) - and before I lived with a girlfriend ...
18:08 < rxr> so - dietlibc tar problem should be fixed now - back to the party - cu
18:53 < rxr> re
18:53 < rxr> (shortly)
18:53 < rxr> hey - the install build nor progresses quite fine:
18:53 < rxr> 180 builds total, 106 completed fine, 0 with errors.
18:54 < rxr> :-)
19:43 < mnemoc> =)
21:13 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba250a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)]
21:55 -!- martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba1ecf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2
21:56 < mnemoc> rxr: do i have write access to t2?
--- Log closed Sat Oct 02 00:00:39 2004
00:54 * rxr soon off - trying to get more sleep then last night
01:05 < rxr> n8
06:31 < jsaw_> RXR: where's the linux-kernel source package???
06:32 < jsaw_> cloop and linux-drm fail due to this...
07:50 < jsaw_> well okay... they fail anyway... :(
09:31 < rxr> we decided that the linux-src packags os just dump - waste space on instaled systems and especially the cd
09:31 < rxr> and this default kernel crap is annoying anway - since you get the modules only for that kernel ...
09:32 < rxr> the packages will be modified next week to hook into any linux* package and build at the enf of the linux* build - so no default kernel crap and modules for every kernel available ...
10:21 < martin> hi valentin! Happy birthday to you. :-)
10:28 < rxr> hehe, wie are at r4141 ;-)
10:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.231.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
10:52 -!- Topic for #t2: t2:HEAD lookg good - much fun heating your flat compiling
10:52 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 1 00:45:23 2004]
10:52 [Users #t2]
10:52 [ jsaw_] [ martin] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ rxr_] [ valentin]
10:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 6 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normal]
10:52 < martin> rxr is this the oss or the alsa device?
10:52 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
10:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
10:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 16 secs
10:53 < martin> rxr_ h
10:53 < martin> hi
10:55 < valentin> moin
10:55 < valentin> i guess it is alsa
10:56 < valentin> no, oss
10:56 * valentin confused
10:56 < martin> hi valentin, happy birthday to you, again :-)
10:56 < valentin> thx
10:57 < valentin> remember: never start an evening with mai tai
11:06 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.250.31.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
11:09 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:09 < rxr> re
11:09 * rxr breakfasting ...
11:09 < rxr> valentin: .oO
11:28 < martin> snd-mixer-oss (/dev/mixer) will work. But this is not the real ALSA mixer, or?
11:28 * martin is away (Uni ...)
11:41 < rxr> when you have the alsa driver (snd-powermac) in your kerne
11:41 < rxr> and you use snd-mixer-oss then /dev/mixer will be an emulation controlling the real alsa mixer ..
14:10 < martin> rxr: and where is the "real" alsa mixer? /dev ...?
14:11 < rxr> /dev/snd/???
14:11 < rxr> why?
14:12 < rxr> controlC0 most probably
14:12 < rxr> but you do not need to mess with those with ALSA, this is transparently handled by the alsa library ...
14:13 < rxr> martin: when you are at uni, ... - are there more up-to-date p2 klausur "termine" then on the photos?
14:13 < rxr> I miss my math lecture by schrameck (or what the name spelling was)
14:13 < rxr> ...
14:14 < martin> rxr: Schechonk? Ma1/2/3? We work at BlinkenINI
14:16 < martin> rxr: what is the right option for pbbuttonsd.conf? controlC0 will not work.
14:17 < rxr> 2
14:17 < rxr> no not schechonk - schrameck or schramek or so ..
14:23 < martin> schramek@rz.hu-berlin.de (but don't work?!)
14:24 < rxr> I do not know an email address of him
14:46 < rxr> hm - I think I need to update spamassassin, in the hope it would block some more junk - the ammount spamassassin 2.6x (I think) is letter thru is increasing every day ...
14:55 < rxr> valentin: I found a orignal Windows 95 and NT 4.0 copy here in my stack - maybe they form a nice birthday present?
14:56 < rxr> and even a WinME partial OEM edition that came with my 1st laptop ...
14:56 < rxr> *g*
15:07 < valentin> rxr: huh ?
15:08 < rxr> just joking ...
15:08 < rxr> sorry - due to dietlibc trouble in the install target I can not hand a t2 cd to you today :-(
15:31 < rxr> oh my - ullirch drepper to soem sgi guy: "Did you ever hear about a concept called binary compatiblity? Don't
15:31 < rxr> bother working on any glibc patch."
15:31 < rxr> ...
15:35 < jsaw_> re
15:37 < rxr> hi jsaw_ !
15:37 < jsaw_> rxr: dropping linux-src? hmmm. I don't understand this, but... (me prefers to build my own adapted kernel after install)
15:38 < jsaw_> hi rxr
15:38 < jsaw_> 1303 builds total, 287 completed fine, 9 with errors.
15:39 < jsaw_> what's the dietlibc trouble?
15:39 < rxr> yes - you'll get some more gnome-2.8 errrors ...
15:39 < rxr> just started to look at it - it already gives some problems during tar, ...
15:39 < rxr> I guess nothing big - just s.t. to adapt or so ...
15:40 < rxr> (maybe I should also start to build generic, too - not only my desktop subset - so /me do not annoy jsaw_ with too many straight foward failures ... ;-)
15:41 < jsaw_> oh, there's nothing big there. no unusual problems :)
15:41 < rxr> but I'm afrait you might get some for all the other packges I do not build regularly ... :-(
15:41 < rxr> but we'll see
15:41 < jsaw_> (or at least no that many if considering the fact I tried a linux 2.6 build...)
15:42 < rxr> the gnome-2.8 update does cause some ugly problems - quite many gnome based apps fail to link ...
15:42 < rxr> would be cool if you as a gnome expert could take a look ...
15:42 < jsaw_> :)
15:42 < mnemoc> moin
15:42 < rxr> although the basics and nautilus and co link fine ...
15:42 < rxr> hi mnemoc!
15:42 < jsaw_> hi mnemoc
15:43 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jsaw_
15:53 < rxr> ok - let's see if I can track the dietlibc tar thing before I'm off to valentin's birthday sit-in
15:53 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:57 < rxr> what uhm?
15:57 < rxr> birthday sit-in or dietlibc? ;-)
15:58 < rxr> hm - this just seems to work - only the inclusion of wchar.h from glibc does produce a tons of erros ..
16:00 < mnemoc> dietlibc-tar
16:00 < mnemoc> ic
16:01 < jsaw_> <- takes a nap, cu l8r
16:01 < rxr> cu jsaw_
16:01 < rxr> mw away, soon
16:12 < rxr> == 10/02/04 16:13:22 =[1]=> Finished building package tar.
16:12 < rxr> ok - I know how to fix it - but the commit must wait until I'm back ..
16:12 < rxr> too late already anyway - cu
16:15 < mnemoc> late??
16:25 < valentin> mnemoc: rxr is on the way to me.
16:26 < valentin> he wanted to arrive i 3 minutes, so he is late
16:30 < mnemoc> .oO( i thought you were roommates )o
18:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:07 * rxr @ valentin
18:08 < rxr> no - I have a flat for my own .. :-) - and before I lived with a girlfriend ...
18:08 < rxr> so - dietlibc tar problem should be fixed now - back to the party - cu
18:53 < rxr> re
18:53 < rxr> (shortly)
18:53 < rxr> hey - the install build nor progresses quite fine:
18:53 < rxr> 180 builds total, 106 completed fine, 0 with errors.
18:54 < rxr> :-)
19:43 < mnemoc> =)
21:13 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba250a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)]
21:55 -!- martin__ [~martin@brln-d9ba1ecf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2
21:56 < mnemoc> rxr: do i have write access to t2?
--- Log closed Sat Oct 02 00:00:39 2004