--- Log opened Sun Oct 10 00:00:32 2004
00:07 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de is closing the doors ...
00:08 < rxr> I just filled exactcode.de basically and the former sites started to get many redirects ...
00:08 < rxr> just in the case someone wonders ...
00:33 < daja77> O_o are you typing asleep? ;)
00:37 < daja77> anyway n8
00:43 < rxr> daja77: sort of ...
00:43 < rxr> n8 daja77 
00:46 < rxr> me finally off, too - n8 all
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08:10 < blindcoder> moin
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10:20 < rxr> moin
10:50 < martin_> hi rxr. 141.64.23.* is up again ...
10:57 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.236.250.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
10:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
10:57 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct  6 17:56:16 2004]
10:57 [Users #t2]
10:57 [ blindcoder] [ codeguhl] [ jsaw_  ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 
10:57 [ CIA-9     ] [ daja77  ] [ martin_] [ Ragnar0k_] [ rxr_] 
10:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
10:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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11:07 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.223.148.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
11:07 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:07 < rxr> re
12:19 < jsaw_> re
13:33 < blindcoder> moin
14:14 -!- rene_ [~rene@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
14:14 < rene_> hi
14:15 < blindcoder> hi rene_ 
14:16 < valentin> rene_ != rxr ?
14:16 -!- rene_ [~rene@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Client Quit]
14:16 < rxr> re
14:17 < rxr> damn network here ...
14:17 < rxr> unbelievable ... just crap
14:17 < rxr> here ... ?!?!?
14:17 < valentin> where are you ? @home ?
14:17 < rxr> on saturday someone stared a make World install or so on a freebsd router on the way to the net here  - guess what - it rendered the system unsable ...
14:17 < rxr> and since then the gsmp was unreachable ...
14:17 < rxr> next the damn switch freaked out ....
14:17 < daja77> hehe
14:18 < rxr> I just plugged the box into another port (that works ...)
14:18 < rxr> and - then - as if this would not be enought ...
14:18 < rxr> since friday the open w-lan does not route packages into the real world anymore ...
14:18 < rxr> they are somewhere eaten at another f*cked up router on the way .... :-(
14:19 < rxr> well - anyway - at least gsmp is online again - hopefully longer then some hours ...
14:19 < rxr> the gsmp uptime is cool:
14:19 < rxr>  14:47:09 up 369 days,  1:56,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
14:19 < rxr> but I should update the "
14:19 < daja77> btw is there someone speaking in that chan?
14:19 < valentin> the exactcode.de uptime would be cool if there where now thunderstrucs and power outages
14:20 < rxr> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/02/07)" system and old kernen some day ...
14:20 < valentin> -w
14:20 < daja77> the oldest rock what's still in use here is 2.0.0beta4
14:20 < rxr> daja77: what do you mean with speaking in that chan?
14:21 < daja77> #gsmp
14:21 < daja77> there was no traffic so i changed to this one
14:21 < rxr> well - since we hack on t2 and study gsmp is often a bit stalled ...
14:22 < rxr> and the box here at the uni for rock^Wt2 ISO downloads ...
14:22 < valentin> daja77: see the gsmp svn graph - much peaks and long flats
14:22 < daja77> i don't mind, just had too many chans open
14:22 < daja77> ... and still have 
14:24 < blindcoder> 4 chans here...
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15:27 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 
15:30 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-199-123.prtc.net] has joined #t2
15:31 < rxr> hi sparc-kly 
15:31 < sparc-kly> hi people 
15:31 < sparc-kly> :D
15:31 < rxr> what kind of sparc box do you want to run the "build kit" on?
15:32 < sparc-kly> U2 y U5
15:33 < sparc-kly> sorry U2 and U5 LOL 
15:34 < sparc-kly> t2 is ? 
15:34 < sparc-kly> t2 = rocklinux sparc ?
15:35 < valentin> no, t2 is a fork of rocklinux
15:35 < valentin> both buildkits are designed to work with many architectures
15:36 < valentin> currently rock has only support for 32 bit user space on sparc afaik
15:36 < sparc-kly> ahhh ok 
15:37 < valentin> but 64 bit sparc support is still buggy with t2
15:37 < rxr> you could test if my last dual-boot ROCK SPARC CD does boot on your box ...
15:37 < valentin> yea, that one works on my U30
15:37 < rxr> http://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/sparc/sparcboot_cd1.iso
15:38 < sparc-kly> my english is is not very good.  they sorry 
15:38 < rxr> if yes, we could create a full-blown T2 sparc cd in the next weeks ...
15:38 < sparc-kly> this is sparc64 boot cd?
15:38 < rxr> this is a CD with sparc and sparc64 kernel - using the same 32bit user space for both architectures ....
15:38 < rxr> but the 32bit user space is what you often want - it is a bit faster then 64bit user-space
15:39 < sparc-kly> ok i try to download now :D 
15:39 < rxr> nontheless we work on full 64bit user-space support - currently we experience some random segmentation faults and illegal instrutions .. on our U30 test boxes ... :-()
15:40 < rxr> but that will settle down sooner or later ;-)
15:41 < rxr> sparc-kly: are you interested as a user only - or would you like to join as a developer?
15:43 < sparc-kly> to developer?  hummm not if I am good in that!  although never I have tried it. 
15:44 < sparc-kly> functions of developer in T2?
15:46 < rxr> adding packages, updating packages, fixing packages for not-that-often-used architectures like sparc (;-)
15:47 < rxr> improving config install stuff of T2, or whatever ...
15:47 < rxr> and such stuff ... ;-)
15:47 < sparc-kly> cool im interested ! 
15:47 < sparc-kly> cool name for t2 :  MuBEX linux 
15:47 < sparc-kly> lol
15:47 < rxr> MuBEX stands for? *g*
15:48 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/t2/
15:48 < rxr> ^- for mailing lists and such - but we need far more content - and a cool domain ;-)
15:49 < sparc-kly> i read now 
15:49 < rxr> and typo3 as CMS for the side ;-)
15:50 < rxr> so - /me lunch in some minutes ... ;-)
15:51 < sparc-kly> im from Puerto Rico . all t2 staff is German ? ( .de is german right? ) 
15:54 < rxr> no - t2 is international - only exactcode a german company ...
15:55  * sparc-kly burn iso 
15:58  * sparc-kly back in one second 
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16:20 < sparc-kly> hey
16:21 < sparc-kly> boot cd running fine
16:26 < rxr> booting straight into the installer?
16:29 < sparc-kly> is possible boot cd in SMP ?
16:30 < sparc-kly> installer work fine
16:31 < rxr> you mean to boot a SMP kernel?
16:31 < rxr> or if it will run on a multi-cpu machine?
16:33 < sparc-kly> U2 dual 200mhz
16:34 < mnemoc_> moin
16:34 < rxr> did you try to boo the cd?
16:34 < rxr> moin mnemoc_ 
16:34 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
16:34  * rxr off getting fresh milk and juice ...
16:34 < sparc-kly> moin wtf is moin
16:34 < mnemoc_> "good morning"
16:36 < sparc-kly> lol ok
16:36 < sparc-kly> moin all
16:36 < sparc-kly> :P
16:37 < sparc-kly> 10:40 am here
16:40 < mnemoc_> [11:38:30] <sparc-kly> 10:40 am here
16:40 < valentin> sparc-kly: since we are international, we say moin all the time
16:40 < valentin> regardles of local time
16:42 < sparc-kly> upps
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16:53 < rxr> re
17:10 < rxr> so - just got the stones rolling to "maybe" get the rebe.de domain ;-)
17:19 < mnemoc_> rene@rebe.de sounds cool
17:20 < nzg> jep, but some "winzer" could express their interests in the domain
17:22 < rxr> yeah ;-)
17:23 < rxr> nope - it is internally used by nextra, now tiscali - no winzer
17:30 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
17:34 < nzg> well then, good luck ;-)
17:39 < rxr> the phone call half an hour ago did not sound that bad :-)
17:40 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - your problem reproduced ;-)
17:40  * rxr fixing
17:41 < nzg> uargs... i'll have to us xfig in my "Info I Praktikum"
17:42 < rxr> you are forced by the uni?
17:42 < nzg> yes i am
17:42 < rxr> urgs ...
17:42 < mnemoc> rxr: good :)
17:42  * sparc-kly read rocklinux handbook
17:43 < nzg> the rest should be no problem... just two hous windows at the beginnig...
17:43 < nzg> one of the tasks in the script is to drag&drop files
17:44 < nzg> and i must be there 13 out of 14 sessions...
17:44  * nzg gonna get bored to death
17:54 < CIA-9> rene * r4238 /trunk/scripts/Download: 
17:54 < CIA-9> * fixed scripts/Download to reset the $PWD on cvs checkout errors
17:54 < CIA-9>  (and removed some stray set -x on the way ;-)
17:57 < mnemoc> =)
17:58 < mnemoc> omg, supermad died last night
17:58 < mnemoc> superman*
17:59 < daja77> so the end of the world is nigh
18:07 < blindcoder> GPRS! NEVER EVER AGAIN!
18:07 < rxr> hm?
18:07 < blindcoder> 12 MB == 400 EURO
18:07 < daja77> O_o
18:07 < blindcoder> exactly my reaction
18:07 < rxr> your provider is expensive ...
18:08 < blindcoder> that's an understatement if I ever heard one
18:12 < rxr> oh - me was stupid - last commit was well, ...
18:13 < mnemoc> uhm?
18:13 < rxr> new ones comes soon
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18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4239 /trunk/scripts/Download: 
18:21 < CIA-9> * fixed $cvsdir cleanup as well as some cleanup of the cvs code on
18:21 < CIA-9>  the way
18:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4240 /trunk/package/ (base/reiser4progs/ filesystem/reiser4progs/): * moved base/reiser4progs to filesystem/reiser4progs
18:42 < CIA-9> rene * r4241 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiser4progs/reiser4progs.desc: * fixed reiser4progs to use the new official download location
18:43 < CIA-9> rene * r4242 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiser4progs/reiser4progs.desc: * implanted the checksum into the reiser4progs package ;-)
18:43 < daja77> hehe
18:45 < CIA-9> rene * r4243 /trunk/package/ (extra/squashfs-tools/ filesystem/squashfs-tools/): * moved he squashfs-tools into filesystem
18:50 < CIA-9> rene * r4244 /trunk/package/ (10 files in 10 dirs): * moved some packages out of "extra"
18:50 < Ragnar0k_> moin
18:50 < rxr> hi Ragnar0k_ 
18:53 < Ragnar0k_> hi rxr :)
18:55 < CIA-9> rene * r4245 /tags/2.1.0-alpha2/: * tagged 2.1.0-alpha2
19:11  * blindcoder notices that peppermint syrup has a quite strong taste to it
19:13 < valentin> uagh
19:15 < blindcoder> 2cl in a 30cl drink and you still taste it out of everythin else
19:15 < valentin> how about using fresh mint leaves for your cocktails ?
19:16 < blindcoder> yeah, but where can I get those?
19:17 < valentin> perhaps grocery store ?
19:17 < blindcoder> haven't seen them in the ones around here
19:18 < valentin> every bar selling mojitos has them, so there must be a place to buy...
19:18 < blindcoder> yeah
19:19 < blindcoder> metro? selgros? have to take a closer look there next time
19:21 < valentin> i guess in large supermarkets you will find too, but as a living plant
19:22 < valentin> not just single leaves
19:22 < blindcoder> well, I need some plants here anyway :)
19:22 < daja77> implants?
19:22  * daja77 hides
19:22 < blindcoder> well, gimme a HBI and I'll try it :)
19:43 < mnemoc> re
19:46 < rxr> rehi mnemoc 
19:47 < mnemoc> hi rxr
19:47 < CIA-9> rene * r4246 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * updated parted (1.6.11 -> 1.6.15)
19:49 < mnemoc> rxr: if we don't add our names on front of commit messages, what sense does it has the initial <tab> there?
19:49 < rxr> we add them for 3rd party patch commits
19:50 < rxr> if the author == commitee you can skip the line ;-)
19:50 < mnemoc> aha
20:45 < mnemoc> jsaw_, rxr : how ca i know what driver do i need for a 'Adding USB product 5da/1020/0'?
20:45 < mnemoc> it's a digital camara
20:45 < rxr> most probably none - just throw gphoto on it ...
20:46 < mnemoc> ic
20:46 < rxr> if it is not a usb-storage product ig uses some custom protocol, for those gphoto does the stuff in user-space ...
20:46 < rxr> what camera is it?
20:46 < mnemoc> digital dream "l'espion xtra"
20:46 < mnemoc> it's a very very small camara :p
20:47 < mnemoc> i thought they all worked as usb-storages, as my pen-drive does
20:48 < rxr> nope - most don't
20:48 < mnemoc> oh
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20:49 < rxr> but many new ones use some photo transfer protocol ptp or so ...
20:49 < rxr> also implemented in gphoto ;-()
20:50 < rxr> ;-) even
20:50 < mnemoc> hehe
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21:51 < Sparc-kly|G4> hi ppl 
21:52 < Sparc-kly|G4> powerbook rlz :D 
21:53 < rxr> hehe - I do not need to mention that PowerPC is a primary T2 platform (/me typing on a G3, routed over an IBM PowerPC server ... ;-)
22:00 < Sparc-kly|G4> heheh :D cool 
22:00 < Sparc-kly|G4> you have ibook ?
22:01 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4247 /trunk/scripts/Create-UpdList: * Adds -root to scripts/Create-UpdList
22:02 < Sparc-kly|G4> this is : Powerbook G4 12" 867mhz 384ram , 40gb HD combo drive :D 
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22:09 < mnemoc> jsaw_: here?
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22:42 < rxr> mnemoc: where doy ou need Create-UpdList -root ?
22:43 < mnemoc> to test an already built build/foo
22:53 < rxr> what about a Create-ErrList -newdelete -dryrun ;-)?
22:55 < mnemoc> yes but dirty and senseless on  Create-_ErrList_
22:55 < mnemoc> UpdList is clean to show checksum and version
22:55 < mnemoc> ErrList is _not_ ''kiss''
22:57 < rxr> ok ok ;-)
22:57 < rxr> ok.
23:00 < mnemoc> :p
23:34 < CIA-9> rene * r4248 /trunk/package/scientific/mathomatic/: 
23:34 < CIA-9> * removed mathomatic - sorry I added crap, it does not even support
23:34 < CIA-9>  logarithms or trigonometry and so is not even a use for my university
23:34 < CIA-9>  of "applied" science "basic math" :-(
23:38 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/daja-in-c.jpg
23:39 < daja77> args
23:39 < daja77> wrong window
23:39 < rxr> oh - we can cut'n paste that URL, too ;-)
23:39 < daja77> :P
23:40  * daja77 should delete that picture ...
23:40 < rxr> :-(
23:41 < daja77> you've seen it?
23:42 < rxr> should I paste the URL?
23:43 < daja77> paste where?
23:45 < rxr> my browser? How do you view URLs?
23:45 < rxr> *g*
23:45 < daja77> well if you feel like it
23:45 < rxr> yes, I already pasted it - just a pic of you ... - so ...
23:45 < daja77> no pr0n
23:46 < rxr> hehe - nope ;-)
23:46 < rxr> pr0n w/ clothes *g*
23:46 < daja77> :P
23:46 < daja77> <- got a digicam for birthday
23:47 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/augen_zu.jpg <- shot this tonight
23:47 < rxr> congrats - /my plan is also to invest into a new one when I have spare money ...
23:48 < daja77> :)
23:48  * rxr could shoot people that need to steal other persons things ...
23:49 < rxr> good that it was just the digicam - and not my bike or iBook or so ... - but still ...
23:49 < mnemoc> =)
23:49 < daja77> that sucked
23:49 < daja77> the second is no pic of me :)
23:53 < martin_> gn8 all
23:54 < rxr> n8 martin_ 
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