T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-16

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--- Log opened Sat Oct 16 00:00:56 2004
00:47 < rxr> re
00:56 < mnemoc> ${rxr%ne}
00:59 < rxr> ouhm:
00:59 < rxr> 960 builds total, 878 completed fine, 82 with errors.
00:59 < rxr> still too many ...
00:59 < mnemoc> yes
01:00 < rxr> but fixes are on the way ...
01:00 < rxr> and some are of course just deps of of prev. errors ...
01:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4362 /trunk/package/base/pcmcia-cs/ (pcmcia-cs.conf pcmcia-cs.desc tools-only.patch):
01:02 < CIA-9> * updated pcmcia-cs (3.2.7 -> 3.2.8) and fixed it to only build the
01:02 < CIA-9> user-space tools
01:04 < CIA-9> rene * r4363 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (gst-plugins/gst-plugins.desc gstreamer/gstreamer.desc): * updated gstreamer (0.8.5 -> 0.8.7) and gst-plugins (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
01:05 < rxr> so - now doing mol postlinux work ,-)
01:05 < rxr> (so I can run macosx under linux again ;-)
01:06 < rxr> or better testing it - since I already wrote the postlinux.conf 24h ago ;-)
01:12 < CIA-9> rene * r4364 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-driver/ (alsa-driver.conf no_depmod.patch postlinux.conf):
01:12 < CIA-9> * added alsa-driver postlinux implementation (of course for 24*
01:12 < CIA-9> kernels, only) - untested since no 24* kernel built, yet (but has a
01:12 < CIA-9> high chance to be ok)
01:14 < CIA-9> rene * r4365 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-driver/alsa-driver.conf: * oops - missed to add the new alsa-driver.conf :-(
01:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4366 /trunk/package/x11/linux-drm/linux-drm.conf:
01:16 < CIA-9> * added the new linux-drm.conf - the postlinux.conf still needs
01:16 < CIA-9> testing
01:22 < CIA-9> rene * r4367 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * better only build the 3rd party kernel modules for stages > 2
01:23 < CIA-9> rene * r4368 /trunk/scripts/functions: * removed debug tracing due to bug hunting again
01:23 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/
01:23 < rxr> ;-)
01:23 < rxr> ok - me night meal (only had breakfast and "lunch" so far ... ;-)
01:24 < rxr> so - now (hopefully) final mol test
01:24 [Users #t2]
01:24 [ _Lewellyn ] [ BoS ] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ Ragnar0k] [ sparc-kly]
01:24 [ blindcoder] [ CIA-9] [ freed ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
01:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
02:06 < rxr> damn makefile hacking ...
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02:40 < rxr> rehi mnemoc_
02:40 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
02:41 < rxr> oh my - again soo late ..
02:41 < rxr> at least an important part of work done ,-)
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03:18 < rxr> shi junix_
03:18 < CIA-9> rene * r4369 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/ (linux26.patch mol.conf postlinux.conf): * here goes mol postlinux support (after some headache ...)
03:18 < rxr> so - postlinux support is now nearly all done
03:19 < rxr> afaics right now linux-drm is the last missing piece that needs some refresh anyway ...
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03:42 < rxr> so - me crawling into the warm bed ...
03:42 < rxr> cu in the morning hours ...
03:43 < rxr> hm - rock-linux svn down ...
03:44 < rxr> hm - back again?
03:44 -!- junix_ is now known as freed
03:44 < rxr> strange server ...
03:44 < rxr> moin freed
03:44 < freed> gn8 rxr
03:45 < rxr> freed: and when do yo sleep?
03:45 < freed> ahm in some minutes
03:46 < rxr> how was your night?
03:49 < freed> stress with my girlfriend
03:49 < rxr> oh - autsch
03:49 < rxr> something serious?
03:49 < freed> yeap
03:50 < rxr> so /me off ... - far too late ...
03:50 < freed> gn8
03:50 < rxr> freed: if you need me, I'm back in 6-8 hours or so ... ;-)
03:51 < freed> hehe oki
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11:00 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.236.120.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
11:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
11:00 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004]
11:00 [Users #t2]
11:00 [ _Lewellyn ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ Ragnar0k] [ sparc-kly]
11:00 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin__] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
11:00 [ BoS ] [ freed ] [ mnemoc_ ] [ rxr_ ]
11:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
11:00 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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13:29 < rxr_> re
13:29 -!- You're now known as rxr
13:37 < CIA-9> rene * r4370 /trunk/package/shells/bashcompletion/bashcompletion.desc: * updated bashcompletion (20040711 -> 20041017)
13:48 < rxr> do we want to have yet another mozilla variant packaged?
13:48 < rxr> http://www.nvu.com/features.html
13:49 < rxr> ^- some lindows^Wlinspire web editor thing ...
13:50 < daja77> sounds interesting
14:25 < CIA-9> rene * r4371 /trunk/package/audio/alsaplayer/:
14:25 < CIA-9> * remove empty alsaplayer directory (obstructed move?) in order to restore
14:25 < CIA-9> the old files
14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r4372 /trunk/package/audio/alsaplayer/: * resoted the "old" alsaplayer files from r3607 (...)
14:27 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9
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15:32 < rxr> hi esden !
15:33 < esden> hi rxr !
15:35 < rxr> how are you esden ?
15:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4373 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf:
15:35 < CIA-9> * fixed the linux* patch file copy to /usr/src/ to not abort the build
15:35 < CIA-9> on relative filenames that got downloaded
15:36 < CIA-9> rene * r4374 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (gcc34.patch linux24.desc):
15:36 < CIA-9> * updated linux24 (2.4.28-pre3 -> 2.4.28-pre4) so we get rid of the last
15:36 < CIA-9> gcc >= 3.4.x patch ;-) - tested on powerpc
15:38 < CIA-9> rene * r4375 /trunk/package/audio/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
15:38 < CIA-9> * updated all alsa packages (1.0.6* -> 1.0.7rc2) - mostly due to
15:38 < CIA-9> alsa-driver (1.0.6a) did not build on powerpc - tested on powerpc w/
15:38 < CIA-9> 2.4.28-pre4 so the new postlinux.conf stuff in alsa-driver is tested
15:38 < CIA-9> to build now
15:40 < CIA-9> rene * r4376 /trunk/package/filesystem/cloop/linux26.patch: * fixed my cloop for linux 2.6.x fixes to build with 2.4.x again ;-)
16:02 < esden> fine thank you
16:02 < esden> and how are you?
16:02 < esden> cool you are using CIA
16:02 < esden> that is nice
16:02 < rxr> oh - these days, i'm fine, too ;-)
16:03 < esden> that is good
16:03 < rxr> how is your study going on?
16:03 < esden> it is advancing one could say
16:04 < freed> re
16:04 < esden> we will see each other on CCC?
16:06 < rxr> i might not be at CCC - my human beeing demands more real life - and that the CCC is always in the holiday between xmas and new years was always annoying to me since this was historically the time to meet with old friends and so again - I decided that this is more important for me ....
16:06 < rxr> valentin might be there a day or more - but I'm at the linux world expo 26. - 28. Oct in Frakfurt ....
16:07 < blindcoder> esden: if you need one, I have already reserved a place to sleep here for you :-)
16:07 < esden> blindcoder: very good thank you
16:08 < esden> I will use it for sure! ;)
16:08 < blindcoder> great :)
16:08 < esden> uwe and daniel are also coming
16:08 < esden> I mean to CC
16:08 < esden> C
16:08 < esden> not your sleep place ;)
16:08 < esden> so do not worry
16:09 < blindcoder> well, they just need sleeping bags :)
16:09 < blindcoder> two people can share a bed, the rest needs to sleep on the floor
16:11 -!- _Lewellyn [~jenny@c-67-180-175-10.client.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
16:18 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: 2.1.0-alpha3 tag today - cool naming suggestions still welcome ;-)
16:23 * daja77 read rxr's x.org article
16:23 < rxr> #thunderbird
16:23 < rxr> oops
16:27 < blindcoder> rxr: is trying to do magic :-)
16:28 < rxr> sure - the world is full of magic ;-)
16:29 < rxr> esden: any news regarding your C++ attitude ?
16:29 < blindcoder> he admires it like a god-like being
16:29 < blindcoder> :-)
16:43 < rxr> In Ballungsräumen bietet Fastweb eine 10Mbit Up/Down Flatrate über
16:43 < rxr> Glasfaserkabel an. Die kostet Euro 65/Monat und beinhaltet auch den
16:43 < rxr> Telefonanschluß (Voice-over-IP).
16:44 < blindcoder> o_O
16:45 < rxr> but .it only or so ...
16:45 < rxr> was just a cut'n paste from a heise.de news entry ...
16:45 < blindcoder> :/
16:56 < CIA-9> rene * r4377 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * updated memtest86 (1.26 -> 1.27)
17:04 < blindcoder> I _so_ hate spam telling me how to get rid of spam
17:34 < rxr> so - hopefully the last xorg/postlinux.conf testbuild before commit ... ;-)
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18:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4378 /trunk/package/x11/ (linux-drm/ xorg/postlinux.conf xorg/xorg.conf):
18:02 < CIA-9> * removed linux-drm and used the postlinux.conf technique to build
18:02 < CIA-9> the drm modules from the xorg source, and thus exactly matching
18:02 < CIA-9> the xorg release in use ;-)
18:43 < rxr> ouhm - with x.org and the matching dri modules I have even higher framerats w/ OpenGL.
18:43 < rxr> glygears:
18:43 < rxr> 4954 frames in 5.0 seconds = 990.800 FPS
18:47 < rxr> cool - overlives a blender kde promotion animation run ... ;-)
18:47 < rxr> hm - the evas test does not speed up much I think:
18:47 < rxr> # FRAME COUNT: 5500 frames
18:47 < rxr> # TIME: 20.001 seconds
18:47 < rxr> # AVERAGE FPS: 274.982 fps
18:48 < rxr> # EVAS BENCH: 4.583
18:59 < CIA-9> rene * r4379 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * fixed DEBUG statement conditional
19:01 < sparc-kly> anyone need gmail invitation ?
19:02 < rxr> oh - sure ;-)
19:02 < blindcoder> right next to a hole in my head
19:03 < rxr> I could really need one ,-)
19:03 < sparc-kly> give me you email and name
19:03 < rxr> no the hole in my head of course ...
19:04 < blindcoder> rxr: to directly input knowledge?
19:04 < rxr> Rene Rebe
19:06 < rxr> ^- normally a e with ' - but most people can not type it ;-)
19:06 * rxr off - some minutes relaxing ...
19:08 < blindcoder> é or è?
19:09 < rxr> the first variant of course ;-)
19:09 < sparc-kly> rxr i send invitation , enjoy :P
19:09 < blindcoder> well, I have not much experience with accents
19:09 < blindcoder> unfortunately I can only time it in xterms as of now
19:11 < rxr> sparc-kly: thanks!
19:12 < blindcoder> brb, this damn crap jfs is trying to kill me
19:12 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-031.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["fsck fsck fsck"]
19:15 < sparc-kly> :D gmail is really cool ! i use libgmail and read my email in evolution
19:15 < rxr> ;-)
19:23 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-031.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
19:23 < rxr> sparc-kly: thanks for the gmail invite - so I'm rene.rebe@gmail.com now ;-)
19:24 < blindcoder> much better
19:24 < sparc-kly> coool :D
19:24 < rxr> blindcoder: hm?
19:24 < rxr> just as some universal permanent fallback - not a replacement for rene@exactcode.de ;-)
19:24 < blindcoder> rxr: this dawn jfs showed 800 free MB after deleting almost 4 GB
19:25 < rxr> I never used jfs - and most probably never will be ....
19:25 < rxr> so - no idea ,-)
19:25 < daja77> rxr: have you seen that final article in linux magazin?
19:26 < rxr> yep - I got the magazin some time last week ...
19:26 < rxr> daja77: why?
19:26 < rxr> damn - new gcc-3.4.x errors in linux24 to be fixed:
19:26 < daja77> just read it a few hours ago ;)
19:26 < rxr> e1000_main.c: In function `e1000_up':
19:26 < rxr> e1000_main.c:132: sorry, unimplemented: inlining failed in call to 'e1000_irq_en
19:26 < rxr> able': function body not available
19:26 < rxr> e1000_main.c:277: sorry, unimplemented: called from here
19:26 < rxr> daja77: do you like the article?
19:26 < daja77> ah that inlining shit now on non hppa
19:26 < rxr> my final draft was a bit more technical and included way more historic overview ..
19:27 < rxr> I think my version was at least one full page longer ... :-(
19:27 < rxr> but aside from that ..., comments to the article?
19:27 < daja77> it was fine, and it was still quite long for that magazine
19:27 < rxr> danimo's dist*cc article was longer *g*
19:28 < daja77> hehe
19:28 < rxr> ok - me a bit relaxing - and then fixing linux24 for gcc-3.4 ...
19:28 * daja77 thinking about writing an article too
19:28 < rxr> I have two more in the queue ...
19:28 < daja77> which?
19:29 < rxr> and one is "finished" although I have not seen the final ok yet ...
19:29 < rxr> so if all goes well in the next two or maybe even tree issues an article from me will be included ;-)
19:29 < rxr> the one finished is udev (vs. devfs)
19:30 < rxr> I better not post the ones not yet sent in, yet ...
19:30 < daja77> ah sound sintersting
19:30 * blindcoder taking a bath and then relaxing with a book
19:30 < blindcoder> bye
19:31 * daja77 wants to write about qemu, because it sucks only to read about vmware all the time
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19:56 < sparc-kly> rxr try this http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html :P
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19:59 < esden> re
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20:26 < rxr> re
20:30 < rxr> rehi esden !
20:30 [Users #t2]
20:30 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ Ragnar0k ] [ valentin]
20:30 [ BoS ] [ esden ] [ martin___] [ rxr ]
20:30 [ CIA-9 ] [ freed ] [ mnemoc_ ] [ sparc-kly]
20:30 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
21:16 < rxr> sparc-kly: have you tried the gmail-fs ?
21:32 < CIA-9> rene * r4380 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/ (XF86Config.data xorg.conf.data xorg_config.sh):
21:32 < CIA-9> * renamed our XFree86^WX.org configuration example from XF86Config*
21:32 < CIA-9> to xorg.conf*
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21:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4381 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/stone_mod_xorg.sh: * adapted stone for the {XFee86,XF86}* -> xorg* renames ;-)
21:43 * esden hungry
21:43 * esden -> mcdonalds -> home
21:43 < esden> cu everyone
21:43 < CIA-9> rene * r4382 /trunk/package/base/linux24/disable-broken.lst:
21:43 < CIA-9> * disabled the E1000 driver in linux24 due to inlining issues with
21:43 < CIA-9> gcc >= 3.4.x ...
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21:47 < CIA-9> rene * r4383 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): * removed "DEFAULT" linux kernel "crap" from the bootdisk target
21:51 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: 2.1.0-alpha3 tag today | 2.1.0-beta in ~6 days | happy testing
21:53 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: 2.1.0-alpha3 tag today | 2.1.0-beta in ~6 days | happy testing ;-)
22:05 < CIA-9> rene * r4384 /trunk/package/multimedia/deva/ (deva.conf deva.desc): * removed prefix option from deva and performed some tiny cleanups
22:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4385 /trunk/package/multimedia/deva/ (config.hlp config.in):
22:15 < CIA-9> * removed the prefix selection option and instead added an "only enable
22:15 < CIA-9> with rpm available" filter
22:47 < rxr> hm - shit
22:47 < rxr> I can not imagine why our altivec supporting packages to not compile :-(
22:48 < rxr> if this is really the case it will be tricky to fix ...
22:51 < rxr> ok - not that tricky, commit maybe soon
23:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4386 /trunk/package/multimedia/avifile/ (configure.patch gcc34.patch): * removed non-applying patches from avifile after update
23:22 < CIA-9> rene * r4387 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config:
23:22 < CIA-9> * only remove some selected some -m* optimization options generically
23:22 < CIA-9> so options like -msse or -maltivec are not removed ;-)
23:26 < rxr> jsaw: the gnome errors are caused by the new ld.so glob patch
23:26 < rxr> valentin: you could debug this ... ;-)
23:27 < jsaw> dropping by in the right moment...
23:27 < jsaw> *g
23:27 < jsaw> *
23:27 < rxr> *g*
23:27 < rxr> hm - damn I wanted to tag alpha3 - but with this known bug ... .-(
23:27 < rxr> damn
23:28 < jsaw> how did u find out?
23:28 < rxr> I just had a art*so not found in the new avifile ...
23:28 < jsaw> oh.
23:28 < rxr> adding /opt/kde33/lib into /etc/ld.so.conf curred it ...
23:30 < jsaw> then it's not the bug.
23:30 < jsaw> (so a viable solution)
23:30 < rxr> hm?
23:31 < rxr> we have /opt/*/lib in ld.so.conf and the linker patched to support globbin ...
23:31 < rxr> +g
23:31 < rxr> so the /opt/kde33/lib line should be redundant - but it is not ...
23:31 < rxr> and since it is not our patch has a bug ...
23:31 < rxr> glib patch for the linker that is ...
23:31 < jsaw> from the output of libtool:
23:32 < jsaw> - add LIBDIR to the `LD_LIBRARY_PATH' environment variable
23:32 < jsaw> during execution
23:32 < jsaw> - add LIBDIR to the `LD_RUN_PATH' environment variable
23:32 < jsaw> during linking
23:32 < jsaw> - use the `-Wl,--rpath -Wl,LIBDIR' linker flag
23:32 < jsaw> - have your system administrator add LIBDIR to `/etc/ld.so.conf'
23:32 < rxr> yes, and?
23:32 * rxr is slow tonight ...
23:32 < jsaw> if avifile does find libarts.so, but not internally used libraries (of libarts.so), then the "-Wl,--rpath..." is dropped by libtool (still)
23:33 < jsaw> I'm pretty sure you find the "-rpath /opt/kde33/lib" in the log of arts
23:35 < rxr> nope
23:35 < rxr> because it is an indirect dependency ..
23:35 < jsaw> ups, no, they do not... actually we should run "libtoolize -f -c" before each configure
23:35 < rxr> what for?
23:36 < jsaw> yes, and indirect dependencies should NOT be affected by /etc/ld.so.conf
23:36 < jsaw> actually the may not.
23:36 < jsaw> just imagine if arts would've put it's internal libs in a subdirectory. *g*
23:37 < jsaw> I mean, now it works, so it's okay.
23:37 < jsaw> but we should still try to find the real cause for libtool dropping some arguments
23:38 < jsaw> (at least keep it on some TODO list)
23:38 < rxr> for me it is:
23:38 < rxr> ld: warning: libartsc.so.0, needed by ../lib/.libs/libaviplay.so, not found (tr
23:38 < rxr> y using -rpath or -rpath-link)
23:39 < jsaw> do you have "-rpath /opt/kde33/lib" in the avifile.log ?
23:40 < rxr> nope
23:41 < rxr> just a normal -L/opt/kde33/lib /opt/kde33/lib/libartsc.so
23:41 < rxr> which is ok
23:42 < jsaw> and how can it be that it doesn't find it if even the path is given? me lost. That should have nothing to do with /etc/ld.so.conf, should it?
23:42 < rxr> nope - in the first place it is find ...
23:42 < rxr> only later when some app is linked against the lib it is not found anymore ...
23:43 < jsaw> ah, okay, so libaviplay is missing the -rpath option (by fault of the programmers of the makefile).
23:44 < rxr> no - you do not want a hardcoded path for everything in the libraries
23:45 < jsaw> I do not agree, but doesn't matter, it solves the problem.
23:46 < rxr> why do you want to hardocde the path into every library?
23:48 < jsaw> I want it in the library, as long as it is an internal library.
23:48 < rxr> hm? but it is not - it get's installed to a normal place ..
23:48 < rxr> just that some other example app is linked against it before the installation ...
23:48 < rxr> but that is not the point ...
23:49 < rxr> the point is that the linker is not able to locate arts*.so ...
23:49 < jsaw> yes, and that's wrong because it should have had the hint where it is, even if /etc/ld.so.conf is wrong.
23:50 < rxr> "the hint"? no
23:50 < rxr> one .so is linked with -L/opt/kde33/lib
23:50 < jsaw> rpath is a hint. nothing more.
23:50 < rxr> that is the hint and right
23:50 < rxr> later on some binary is linked to the above .so ... and there is no hint (and there should not be one) and it is not found ...
23:50 < jsaw> nope, not for internal libs (generally i have to add)
23:52 < jsaw> yes, because libavifile.so gives the hint "I need libartsc.so" (which is not supplied as -lartsc to the binary linking), so it also should tell where it found it while libavifile.so was linked.
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23:52 < rxr> no - when I write a Makefile I do not want to add rpath stuff all over the place ...
23:53 < rxr> it is a bug introcuded by updating the ld.so globbing patch ...
23:53 < rxr> it worked in the past and we broke it ...
23:53 < jsaw> I don't care. rxr - as I have said, we do not agree about this. But still I agree that removing the globbing patch (or giving explicit path to ld.so.conf) is a good solution.
23:54 < jsaw> So what?
23:54 < rxr> removing?
23:54 < rxr> then you would have to add every /opt/* patfh to the ld.so.conf file ...
23:55 < jsaw> no "double play" please. Either one or the other. *please*
23:55 < rxr> what double play?
23:55 < jsaw> adding explicit path to ld.so.conf (game 1) and still support globbing (game 2)
23:56 < jsaw> oh, it's not a bug in the ld.so patch.
23:56 < jsaw> the problem is that "ld" does not understand '*'
23:58 < rxr> doesn't ld just look into the ld.so.cache?
23:58 < rxr> or so?
23:59 < jsaw> try "strings $root/etc/ld.so.cache | grep libartsc.so"
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