T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-20
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--- Log opened Wed Oct 20 08:48:35 2004
08:48 < rxr> so
08:48 < rxr> ah - ok - irssi logging again ... ,-)
08:51 < blindcoder> I have a bad feeling about this...
08:51 < blindcoder> updating util-linux on a running system
09:01 < rxr> why?
09:01 < blindcoder> last time I tried most patches screwed up royally
09:01 < blindcoder> but now I'm gonna try again since there's a new loop-aes patch available
09:09 < rxr> ok - the 2.6.9 headers cause regressions ... :-(
09:28 < blindcoder> what's worse than having to update patches?
09:28 < blindcoder> updating patches you don't have a clue what they do :(
09:32 < blindcoder> okay, no update then
09:57 < rxr> re
10:15 -!- martin___ [~martin@brln-d9ba039f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
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10:57 < rxr> hi martin_ ;-)
11:03 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.224.229.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
11:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | http://www.exactcode.de/oss/t2 | lim (t -> 2.1.0) err (t) = 0 | Have fun!
11:03 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Oct 19 00:33:31 2004]
11:03 [Users #t2]
11:03 [ blindcoder] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
11:03 [ BoS ] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
11:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
11:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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11:06 < martin_> rehi rxr_
11:11 < rxr_> martin_: I'll leave berlin on friday for some days - you might like to collect your dvb-t box before ...
11:12 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.207.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
11:12 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:13 < martin_> rxr Oh, yes. Today is no university for me ...
11:14 * rxr at home, too
11:22 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-019-251.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
12:13 < CIA-9> rene * r4420 /trunk/package/archiver/cabextract/cabextract.desc: * updated cabextract (0.6 -> 1.1) - tested on powerpc
12:27 < CIA-9> rene * r4421 /trunk/package/archiver/unshield/ ( unshield.cache unshield.desc): * added unshield (InstallShield .cab extractor ;-) - tested on powerpc
13:46 < mnemoc> moin!
13:52 < nzg> moin mnemoc
13:52 < mnemoc> moin nzg
14:06 < rxr> moin
14:40 < martin_> rxr are u at home?
14:59 < mnemoc> do you have a link to a 'current' version of the cathedral and the bazar in german?
15:01 < mnemoc> http://www.phone-soft.com/RaymondCathedralBazaar/catb_g.0.html :)
15:02 < rxr> re
15:02 * rxr reading ...
15:34 < rxr> re
16:40 < mnemoc> rxr: here?
16:44 < rxr> jups
16:45 < rxr> but busy - and often rebooting due to the crappy USB stack of linux ...
16:45 < rxr> and soon into macosx anyway ...
16:45 < rxr> rebooting once more - back in 1min
16:58 < rxr> re
16:58 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
16:59 < rxr> b
17:00 < mnemoc> nothing :)
17:00 < rxr> nothing?
17:04 < mnemoc> i wanted to ask you about Homesteading The Noosphere in german, but i found it :p
17:05 < rxr> what are you doing with the german texts ?
17:07 < mnemoc> i'll help a company to open their code, and the 'arquitect' is german :p
17:07 < mnemoc> so it's easier to give him some essays than trying to explain the staff in spanish :p
17:08 < mnemoc> any other good essay/article you think he may need to read?
17:11 < rxr> hehe - my mind is full with worl expo, scanner driver and macosx stuff ...
17:12 < mnemoc> ok :D
17:12 < rxr> maybe ask valentin - the is the paper reading expert here *g*
17:12 < mnemoc> valentin: ping! :)
17:32 < rxr> re
17:33 < rxr> now in macosx - let's see how much this USB stack sucks ...
17:41 < daja77> hm was there a change in the mozilla build process in version 1.7.3
18:04 < valentin> mnemoc: pong ?
18:04 < valentin> sorry, had been quite busy
18:04 < valentin> n
18:04 < valentin> need to drive home, now
18:05 < valentin> cu
18:19 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508E9E7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"]
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19:01 < rxr> re
19:42 < rxr> hm - s.th. is wrong with my just compiled libusb on macosx ...
19:43 < rxr> my driver does not discover any USB device ...
19:43 < rxr> although of course the scanner is connected :-(
19:44 < rxr> .oO
19:44 < rxr> s.th. is wrong with one usb port
19:45 < rxr> it seems s.th. might have destroyed it ...
19:47 < rxr> hell no
19:47 < rxr> this is unbelievable .. the macosx usb subsystem seems to suck even more then the linux one ...
19:48 < rxr> hm - now both of my usb ports do not recognize devices any longer - and do not yield power ...
19:48 * rxr rebooting this fucked up macosx ...
19:51 < mnemoc_> after your last 'optimization'?
20:01 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1c89.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)]
21:05 < mnemoc_> have anyone used gforge.org?
21:14 < rxr> re
21:14 < rxr> gforge - gforge, hm - what was that ...
21:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4422 /trunk/package/base/miscfiles/miscfiles.desc: * updated miscfiles (1.3 -> 1.4.1)
21:26 < CIA-9> rene * r4423 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.desc:
21:26 < CIA-9> * reverted the linux-header update, I find it too boring to fix yet
21:26 < CIA-9> new typing problems without a real value of the header update anyway
21:30 < rxr> hey, cool. My scanner driver under MacOSX:
21:30 < rxr> [avision] attach: Inquiry gives mfg=AVision, model=DS610CU, product revision=1.27.
21:35 < rxr> the default mac prompt sucks - and does not even support unicode or whatever it stores my userid into:
21:35 < rxr> Ren-Rebes-Computer:~/develop rene$
21:38 < rxr> wow - but osx does include diffstat ;-)
21:40 < rxr> well - and since my just automatically applied macosx security updates need a rebbot - cu soon ...
21:45 < rxr> re
21:56 < rxr> this is a damn OS ..
21:56 < rxr> it just kernel paniced on me ...
21:57 < rxr> the USB subsystem locks up so quickly ... - unbelievable ... and the usb ports fuck up in a way leaving them completely power-less - even my HUBs link active LED is not lighting then anymore ...
21:57 < rxr> and once it even booted up with one port unfunctinal ...
22:07 < rxr> damn does suck
22:35 < jsaw> Two things have come out of Berkeley, Unix and LSD. It is uncertain which caused the other.
22:35 < jsaw> (comment on /.)
22:35 < jsaw> :)
22:35 < rxr> haha
22:39 < rxr> wow
22:39 < rxr> now I have this transparent window macosx thing - and it is not even
22:40 < rxr> possible to control the translucency of a window individually
22:40 < rxr> afaics only programs that control this itself are able to be translucent
22:40 < rxr> I just downloaded some program to set the opacity of the windows with this program, and it does not want to work because it claims it was not tested on 10.3 ...
22:41 < rxr> this is a damn hell here ...
22:41 * rxr -> bed - n8 .* ,-)
22:42 < jsaw> sleep well
--- Log closed Thu Oct 21 00:00:51 2004
08:48 < rxr> so
08:48 < rxr> ah - ok - irssi logging again ... ,-)
08:51 < blindcoder> I have a bad feeling about this...
08:51 < blindcoder> updating util-linux on a running system
09:01 < rxr> why?
09:01 < blindcoder> last time I tried most patches screwed up royally
09:01 < blindcoder> but now I'm gonna try again since there's a new loop-aes patch available
09:09 < rxr> ok - the 2.6.9 headers cause regressions ... :-(
09:28 < blindcoder> what's worse than having to update patches?
09:28 < blindcoder> updating patches you don't have a clue what they do :(
09:32 < blindcoder> okay, no update then
09:57 < rxr> re
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10:42 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1c89.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2
10:57 < rxr> hi martin_ ;-)
11:03 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.224.229.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
11:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | http://www.exactcode.de/oss/t2 | lim (t -> 2.1.0) err (t) = 0 | Have fun!
11:03 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Oct 19 00:33:31 2004]
11:03 [Users #t2]
11:03 [ blindcoder] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
11:03 [ BoS ] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
11:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
11:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
11:03 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
11:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 15 secs
11:06 < martin_> rehi rxr_
11:11 < rxr_> martin_: I'll leave berlin on friday for some days - you might like to collect your dvb-t box before ...
11:12 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.207.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
11:12 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:13 < martin_> rxr Oh, yes. Today is no university for me ...
11:14 * rxr at home, too
11:22 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-019-251.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
12:13 < CIA-9> rene * r4420 /trunk/package/archiver/cabextract/cabextract.desc: * updated cabextract (0.6 -> 1.1) - tested on powerpc
12:27 < CIA-9> rene * r4421 /trunk/package/archiver/unshield/ ( unshield.cache unshield.desc): * added unshield (InstallShield .cab extractor ;-) - tested on powerpc
13:46 < mnemoc> moin!
13:52 < nzg> moin mnemoc
13:52 < mnemoc> moin nzg
14:06 < rxr> moin
14:40 < martin_> rxr are u at home?
14:59 < mnemoc> do you have a link to a 'current' version of the cathedral and the bazar in german?
15:01 < mnemoc> http://www.phone-soft.com/RaymondCathedralBazaar/catb_g.0.html :)
15:02 < rxr> re
15:02 * rxr reading ...
15:34 < rxr> re
16:40 < mnemoc> rxr: here?
16:44 < rxr> jups
16:45 < rxr> but busy - and often rebooting due to the crappy USB stack of linux ...
16:45 < rxr> and soon into macosx anyway ...
16:45 < rxr> rebooting once more - back in 1min
16:58 < rxr> re
16:58 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
16:59 < rxr> b
17:00 < mnemoc> nothing :)
17:00 < rxr> nothing?
17:04 < mnemoc> i wanted to ask you about Homesteading The Noosphere in german, but i found it :p
17:05 < rxr> what are you doing with the german texts ?
17:07 < mnemoc> i'll help a company to open their code, and the 'arquitect' is german :p
17:07 < mnemoc> so it's easier to give him some essays than trying to explain the staff in spanish :p
17:08 < mnemoc> any other good essay/article you think he may need to read?
17:11 < rxr> hehe - my mind is full with worl expo, scanner driver and macosx stuff ...
17:12 < mnemoc> ok :D
17:12 < rxr> maybe ask valentin - the is the paper reading expert here *g*
17:12 < mnemoc> valentin: ping! :)
17:32 < rxr> re
17:33 < rxr> now in macosx - let's see how much this USB stack sucks ...
17:41 < daja77> hm was there a change in the mozilla build process in version 1.7.3
18:04 < valentin> mnemoc: pong ?
18:04 < valentin> sorry, had been quite busy
18:04 < valentin> n
18:04 < valentin> need to drive home, now
18:05 < valentin> cu
18:19 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508E9E7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"]
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19:01 < rxr> re
19:42 < rxr> hm - s.th. is wrong with my just compiled libusb on macosx ...
19:43 < rxr> my driver does not discover any USB device ...
19:43 < rxr> although of course the scanner is connected :-(
19:44 < rxr> .oO
19:44 < rxr> s.th. is wrong with one usb port
19:45 < rxr> it seems s.th. might have destroyed it ...
19:47 < rxr> hell no
19:47 < rxr> this is unbelievable .. the macosx usb subsystem seems to suck even more then the linux one ...
19:48 < rxr> hm - now both of my usb ports do not recognize devices any longer - and do not yield power ...
19:48 * rxr rebooting this fucked up macosx ...
19:51 < mnemoc_> after your last 'optimization'?
20:01 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1c89.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)]
21:05 < mnemoc_> have anyone used gforge.org?
21:14 < rxr> re
21:14 < rxr> gforge - gforge, hm - what was that ...
21:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4422 /trunk/package/base/miscfiles/miscfiles.desc: * updated miscfiles (1.3 -> 1.4.1)
21:26 < CIA-9> rene * r4423 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.desc:
21:26 < CIA-9> * reverted the linux-header update, I find it too boring to fix yet
21:26 < CIA-9> new typing problems without a real value of the header update anyway
21:30 < rxr> hey, cool. My scanner driver under MacOSX:
21:30 < rxr> [avision] attach: Inquiry gives mfg=AVision, model=DS610CU, product revision=1.27.
21:35 < rxr> the default mac prompt sucks - and does not even support unicode or whatever it stores my userid into:
21:35 < rxr> Ren-Rebes-Computer:~/develop rene$
21:38 < rxr> wow - but osx does include diffstat ;-)
21:40 < rxr> well - and since my just automatically applied macosx security updates need a rebbot - cu soon ...
21:45 < rxr> re
21:56 < rxr> this is a damn OS ..
21:56 < rxr> it just kernel paniced on me ...
21:57 < rxr> the USB subsystem locks up so quickly ... - unbelievable ... and the usb ports fuck up in a way leaving them completely power-less - even my HUBs link active LED is not lighting then anymore ...
21:57 < rxr> and once it even booted up with one port unfunctinal ...
22:07 < rxr> damn does suck
22:35 < jsaw> Two things have come out of Berkeley, Unix and LSD. It is uncertain which caused the other.
22:35 < jsaw> (comment on /.)
22:35 < jsaw> :)
22:35 < rxr> haha
22:39 < rxr> wow
22:39 < rxr> now I have this transparent window macosx thing - and it is not even
22:40 < rxr> possible to control the translucency of a window individually
22:40 < rxr> afaics only programs that control this itself are able to be translucent
22:40 < rxr> I just downloaded some program to set the opacity of the windows with this program, and it does not want to work because it claims it was not tested on 10.3 ...
22:41 < rxr> this is a damn hell here ...
22:41 * rxr -> bed - n8 .* ,-)
22:42 < jsaw> sleep well
--- Log closed Thu Oct 21 00:00:51 2004