T2 IRC Log: 2004-11-16

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--- Log opened Tue Nov 16 00:00:58 2004
00:41 < rxr> cool - so managed quite some base practicing tonight
00:41 * rxr quickly restarting X (testind new patch)
00:44 < rxr> re
00:44 < rxr> hm
00:56 < CIA-9> rene * r4703 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg.cron:
00:56 < CIA-9> * fixed xorg.cron to use --system-only for the fc-cache run
00:56 < CIA-9> (and thus not including /root/.fonts)
00:56 < rxr> [5] python/pysqlite [5] e17/efsd
00:56 < rxr> [5] e17/elicit [5] e17/entrance
00:56 < rxr> [5] security/gpgme [5] security/gpa
00:56 < rxr> [5] kde/koffice [5] graphic/pixieplus
00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gtkhtml10 [5] audio/xmp
00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome2/gedit-plugins [5] multimedia/nvrec
00:56 < rxr> [5] gnome2/gkrellm-plugins [5] perl/mysql-perl
00:56 < rxr> [5] perl/perl-dbd-postgresq [5] emulators/dosemu
00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/vstserver [5] multimedia/kaxtv
00:56 < rxr> [5] multimedia/mythtv [5] multimedia/vdr
00:56 < rxr> [5] fonts/mplayer-fonts [5] multimedia/avview
00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/ladspa-swh-plugins [5] audio/ladspa-vst
00:56 < rxr> [5] audio/ardour [5] gnome2/gnomemeeting
00:56 < rxr> [5] base/quota [5] multimedia/ripperx
00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/clip [5] multimedia/vls
00:56 < rxr> [5] multimedia/ggrab [5] gnome2/gnucash
00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/mono-develop [5] multimedia/dvgrab
00:56 < rxr> [5] develop/ocs [5] develop/stlport
00:56 < rxr> 978 builds total, 941 completed fine, 36 with errors.
01:02 < rxr> n8 all
01:27 < mnemoc> rxr: clip people has 56kbps, then you need to -notimeout
01:41 < valentin> hm, i am chrooted into the build and there is a
01:41 < valentin> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Nov 14 05:10 /opt/e17/lib/libevas.so.1 -> libevas.so.1.0.0
01:41 < valentin> working symlink
01:42 < valentin> when a file is compiled with
01:42 < valentin> -L/opt/e17/lib -lecore_evas
01:42 < valentin> i get an
01:42 < valentin> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libevas.so.1, needed by /opt/e17/lib/libecore_evas.so, not found
02:02 < valentin> everybody asleep i guess
02:02 < valentin> guahh
02:02 < valentin> rxrs computer shutting down now
02:05 < valentin> ok, debuging session finished by force :((
02:16 < valentin> cu and gn8
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02:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:35 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Nov 7 16:41:27 2004]
02:35 [Users #t2]
02:35 [ _martin ] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ sparc-kly]
02:35 [ _Ragnar_] [ freed ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
02:35 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_ ]
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03:24 < sparc-kly> kensai sucks LOL
03:25 < kensai> LOL
03:26 < kensai> sparc-kly: by god man this is a public channel
03:26 < sparc-kly> hehe
03:28 < mnemoc> :)
03:31 < kensai> mnemoc: He suffers of dementia don't take any word from him
03:32 < mnemoc> hehe
03:32 < mnemoc> to much gentoo damage the brain
03:33 < kensai> yeah thats right
03:33 < sparc-kly> LOL
03:33 < kensai> sparc-kly, please take your pills
03:33 < mnemoc> :)
03:34 < sparc-kly> t LOL i planned kill you in university ok ?
03:35 < kensai> sparc-kly, hehe
03:35 < kensai> sparc-kly, should I install Linux on University pcs?
03:35 < sparc-kly> look my pv
03:36 < sparc-kly> men ,toky put linux in CAI pcs today
03:37 < sparc-kly> all machine in univ boot cd is enable in BIOS :D
03:37 < kensai> sparc-kly, Live CD?
03:37 < sparc-kly> yes
03:37 < mnemoc> where are you from?
03:37 < kensai> thats what toky used?
03:37 < kensai> Puerto Rico
03:37 < sparc-kly> plask linux ? vahh i dont remember
03:38 < sparc-kly> kensai mnemoc is latin developer :D he speak spanish .
03:39 < kensai> sparc-kly: if I don't get my eth0 working on the t2 based distro your going to make it work for me ;)
03:39 < kensai> sparc-kly: I hate my freaking complicated ethernet card
03:40 < sparc-kly> i dont have idea . but is your problem . you buy gay ethernet card
03:40 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: i guess i know you speak spanish :)
03:40 < kensai> Davicom semiconductor ethernet cards suck
03:40 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4704 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/pciutils.desc: * pciids checksum (pciutils) updated for 2004-11-10' snapshot
03:41 < kensai> mnemoc, me too
03:41 < sparc-kly> davicom LOL
03:41 < mnemoc> davicom stinks
03:41 < kensai> mnemoc, what should I buy?
03:42 < kensai> mnemoc, que ethernet usas?
03:42 < mnemoc> 3com or dlink
03:42 < kensai> sparc-kly, cual tu estas usando?
03:43 < mnemoc> kensai: english please
03:43 < sparc-kly> sis900 very shit and generic ethernet :D
03:43 < kensai> mnemoc, sorry sometimes I forget I'm on IRC
03:44 < mnemoc> even sis is more reliable than davicom
03:44 < mnemoc> kensai: :)
03:44 < kensai> kool bash my ethernet card even more
03:44 < kensai> ;)
03:44 < kensai> I'll leave to drink water please I expect to see like 10 lines bashing my ethernet card
03:45 < jsaw> go on speaking spanish? portuguese?... I'll imagine the sound and feel like being in a warm sunny place eating tappes etc... *damn* it's cold here in germany
03:46 < jsaw> tappas
03:46 < kensai> jsaw,:)
03:46 < jsaw> :)
03:46 < mnemoc> hehe
03:46 < mnemoc> how are you jsaw?
03:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, that was spanish
03:47 < sparc-kly> kensai: und die Karte, die ich Ihnen gebe
03:47 < kensai> Gnome 2.9.1 is fairly stable now sparc-kly you should try it
03:47 < jsaw> mnemoc: something like owl
03:47 < jsaw> or like u
03:48 < jsaw> just lost my room at home
03:48 < mnemoc> o_O
03:48 < jsaw> PC broken, laptop is sooooo slow... no money
03:48 < sparc-kly> kensai 2.9.1 ? is more fast than 2.8?
03:49 < kensai> hehe
03:49 < sparc-kly> my enghlis is very bad so i try , and practice
03:49 < kensai> maybe
03:49 < jsaw> mnemoc: but thesis is progressing and I can stay 2 more years in the lab after the exam
03:49 < kensai> sparc-kly, I have some Ingles sin barreras for you LOL
03:49 < jsaw> (fully paid) :)
03:49 < sparc-kly> maybe lol is very unstable
03:49 < sparc-kly> ingles sin barreras . :D good idea for idiot
03:50 < kensai> sparc-kly, LOL
03:50 < sparc-kly> unknow in idiot LOL
03:50 < sparc-kly> im*
03:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: jsaw: that's great, but tell me more about your room?
03:51 < kensai> sparc-kly, HMMM?
03:51 < jsaw> jsaw: I had to give it up for my daughter. She staid in our bedroom, but the next daughter is approaching, so...
03:51 < jsaw> *lol*
03:51 < jsaw> mnemoc I meant
03:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: :D
03:51 < jsaw> .oO(where's my medicin, getting old)
03:52 < mnemoc> my home desktop is on the room where the washing machine is
03:52 < sparc-kly> 18:50:55 up 3 days, 1:05, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.07
03:52 < sparc-kly> :D
03:52 < kensai> :)
03:52 < mnemoc> when will get born you second girl?
03:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'm working night time anyway, so I'll gonna move into the kitchen I guess...
03:52 < jsaw> measurement says Feb 19th
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03:53 < mnemoc> my rafaella is of jan 30, 2004 :) almost one year of difference
03:54 < jsaw> rafaella, great name
03:55 < mnemoc> did you choose name?
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03:55 < jsaw> my first one is "marlene hannah stella", the next one will be "charlotte ? luna" (I can choose the name in the middle, not yet sure)
03:55 < kensai> My gnome 2.9.1 just crashed
03:55 < sparc-kly> lol
03:55 < jsaw> kensai: hehe
03:55 < sparc-kly> put stable version
03:56 < kensai> I really like bleeding edge until I'm bleeding to much
03:56 < jsaw> :)))))))))))))))))))
03:56 < kensai> ;)
03:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: three names? i have a "victoria carolina" and a "rafaella antonia"... only two names
03:58 < kensai> One name Ara
03:58 < kensai> LOL
03:58 < kensai> what are you talking about?
03:58 < mnemoc> daughters
03:58 < kensai> oh
03:59 < kensai> I like the name Atra cause it sounds medieval
03:59 < kensai> Ara*
03:59 < jsaw> mnemoc: we couldn't decide and I didn't like the idea of not having contributed any name...
03:59 < mnemoc> non of the 5 is was choosen by you?
03:59 < mnemoc> s/is//
03:59 < jsaw> and now we have to continue with three names
03:59 < jsaw> the middle one is my choice
04:00 < jsaw> hannah for my first daughter
04:00 < mnemoc> how do you call her?
04:00 < jsaw> and the last name is mine too (we're not married ya know)
04:00 < jsaw> marlene
04:01 < jsaw> I guess, she's gonna be pissed later on when she has to write it completely: "Marlene Hannah Stella Sawinski"
04:01 < jsaw> hehe
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04:02 < jsaw> gnome...
04:02 < sparc-kly> crash again :D
04:02 < jsaw> *evil grin* (even though I'm using gnome myself and crashed also once in a while)
04:07 < mnemoc> she will hate you
04:08 < jsaw> mnemoc: yep. (but may I still hope that she will love me for being able to choose, may I ... no I guess not...)
04:09 < mnemoc> :p
04:09 < mnemoc> at least you have only one family name, we have two. one from father and one from mother
04:10 < jsaw> ah yeah right. I almost forgot.
04:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: what does rafaella mean?
04:12 < mnemoc> female for raphael, the archangel
04:13 < jsaw> ah, but what does rapheal mean (I mean translated, the history itself I know)
04:14 < mnemoc> no medicine of god iirc
04:14 < mnemoc> s/no//
04:15 < jsaw> healed by god
04:15 < jsaw> yes, right.
04:15 < jsaw> nice.
04:16 < jsaw> hebrew never differentiates between present and future tense... so both right
04:18 < mnemoc> :D
04:18 < jsaw> hannah is "grace of god"
04:19 < jsaw> marlene is not really clear, some say mixture of maria magdalena,
04:20 < mnemoc> and stella?
04:20 < jsaw> star
04:20 < jsaw> latin? I think
04:21 < jsaw> (luna -> third name of next daughter)
04:21 < mnemoc> moon?
04:21 < jsaw> yes
04:22 < mnemoc> third names are from astronomy then
04:22 < jsaw> looks like...
04:24 < jsaw> just found a page that says marlene means "child of light, bitter" (which would be "magdalena, maria")
04:24 < jsaw> funny.
04:24 < jsaw> pretty much tells here personality.
04:24 < mnemoc> yes?
04:25 < jsaw> very happy, very angry - nothing in between
04:26 < jsaw> brb, getting a coffee
04:30 < mnemoc> the three women i have at home are like your marlene then :)
04:36 < jsaw> :)
04:52 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep, gn8 jsaw, sparc-kly
04:52 < jsaw> sleep well mnemoc
04:58 < jsaw> I give up too, riding home seeking my bed...
04:58 < jsaw> cu sparc-kly
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08:00 < rxr_> moin
08:01 < rxr_> huh - some scrollback to do ...
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08:17 < mtr> moin
08:28 < rxr> moin mtr
08:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4705 /trunk/package/e17/elicit/elicit.conf: * fixed elicit by including the usual e17.conf automatics
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10:53 < rxr> mnemoc: /me right now at install stuff ...
11:07 < rxr> mnemoc: jsaw: the problem is due to using the cross compiler for which we adapt the spec file explicitly asking to include those systems headers
11:07 < rxr> I wonder how this compiled in ROCK Linux
11:07 < rxr> either an untested change and brokeen there, too - or they did s.th. else
11:08 < rxr> but I wanted to get rid of the ugly spec file adaption anyway ...
11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r4706 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh build_stage2.sh):
11:11 < CIA-9> * added -Os -s to the bootdisk target diet invocations
11:11 < CIA-9> * removed the || true crap to not let linuxrc compilations pass with
11:11 < CIA-9> errors present
11:11 < CIA-9> * further bootdisk package map tuning
11:12 < rxr> ^- this will not fix the problem yet
11:12 < rxr> I'll first create a new ISO with a locally fixed cross gcc spec file - and after that start a new build to test if a install build passes with such a unmodified spec file and add fixes as needed ...
11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r4707 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
11:34 < CIA-9> * removed the ROCK ASCII art from the install screens and added
11:34 < CIA-9> a tiny T2 text including URL
11:34 < CIA-9> * fixed package map to deflate all kernels
11:43 < rxr> ah - and a note for google hits, I first thought our bootdisk linuxrc problems are due to -isystem used to pass the include location to gcc and recent gcc versions might be buggy with that option
11:44 < rxr> as I wrote it is just our (ugly anyway) sepc adaption
12:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4708 /trunk/target/bootdisk/config.in: * no syslog-ng for the bootdisk target
12:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4709 /trunk/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh: * create one initrd per kernel available
12:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4710 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in):
12:21 < CIA-9> * disabled lilo and grub for the bootdisk target - AFAICS they are
12:21 < CIA-9> not needed
12:24 < CIA-9> rene * r4711 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): * reenabled lilo - just found out it is used for the floppies ;-)
12:24 < rxr> sorry
12:24 * rxr violating my own written svn commit rules ;-)
12:51 < CIA-9> rene * r4712 /trunk/target/bootdisk/linuxrc2.sh: * some more ROCK vs. T2 bootup tweaks
13:00 < rxr> so - I think with the next commit the x86 boot-cd should be functional again
13:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4713 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh x86/build.sh x86/isolinux.cfg):
13:03 < CIA-9> * the multiple initrd and kernel code needed for x86 (disk disabled
13:03 < CIA-9> until we have a freedos loader replacement)
13:22 < rxr> http://www.cmap.polytechnique.fr/~jouve/xd3d/
13:27 < rxr> ^- packing anyone?
13:27 < CIA-9> rene * r4714 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh x86/build.sh):
13:27 < CIA-9> * fixed the new x86 install stuff for 8.3 filenames (it seems isolinux
13:27 < CIA-9> is limitted to) - just booted linux24 and linux26 from the new bootcd
13:31 < valentin> rxr: can this xd3d thing plot functions or data only ?
13:31 < rxr> the page says functions ...
13:32 < rxr> I just noticed it on freshmeat - have neither taken a look ...
13:32 < CIA-9> rene * r4715 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-scsi.conf:
13:32 < CIA-9> * do not fall back to ide-scsi for CD-ROM access anymore
13:32 < CIA-9> (needed for 2.6 and imperfect on 2.4 anyway)
13:32 < valentin> cool = you are right = it can even plot algebraic defined planes
13:32 < valentin> no, it cant
13:32 < valentin> :(
13:33 < rxr> It can plot 2d and 3d meshes, with shadowing, contour plots, vector fields, iso-contour (3d), as well as 3d surfaces z=f(x,y) defined by an algebraic expression or a cloud of points.
13:34 < valentin> sounded to me like plot f(x,y,z)=0
13:34 < valentin> but z=f(x,y) is pure arithmetics
13:40 < rxr> seems I have a CD soon
13:40 < rxr> right now rebuilding the 2.6 system and CD kernels with IDE_CD support ...
13:40 < valentin> arch=x86 ?
13:40 < rxr> yep for now
13:41 < rxr> when I have polished the basics on the athlon I start a build on the rs/6k ...
13:41 < rxr> and sparc is already in progress ...
13:43 < rxr> ~
13:43 < rxr> right now rebuilding the 2.6 system and CD kernels with IDE_CD support ...~~
13:54 * rxr shortly away buying some foods ...
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14:14 < rxr> re
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14:33 < mnemoc> moin
14:37 < sparc-kly> moin all T2 world
14:37 * sparc-kly go to univ. hehehe .
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15:26 < rxr> I start to rsync the preleminary x86 ISO
15:26 < rxr> Shared: 3988 kB in 2 files
15:26 < rxr> Disk 1: 662080 kB in 6775 files (boot)
15:26 < rxr> Disk 2: 648714 kB in 488 files
15:26 < rxr> Total: 1314782 kB in 7265 files
15:49 < rxr> haha:
15:49 < rxr>
15:52 < daja77> *gg*
15:53 < rxr> oops the reset was on the wrong channel:
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> M$ Excel created .html files are cool:
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> nadia janjua
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> nadia janjua
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-10-28T22:27:40Z
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-09-13T19:13:30Z
15:53 < rxr> 15:48 < rxr> 2004-10-28T23:09:13Z
15:53 < mnemoc> oh
15:54 < valentin> just use your favorite hexeditor to view quicksaved M$ office files ...
15:54 < rxr> I know
15:55 < rxr> but it is rediculous what they even export into .html files ...
15:58 < rxr> out of:
15:58 < rxr> http://www.convergence.com.pk/iax2/trunked.html
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16:08 < valentin> anyone here who can tell me sth about legendre-transformations ?
16:08 < jsaw> way too long ago...
16:09 < valentin> hamilton vs lagrange formalism in analytical mechanics ?
16:09 < jsaw> depends
16:09 < valentin> should join a physics channel
16:09 < jsaw> pose the question anyway
16:10 < valentin> i understand they do a legendre trafo of the Lagrange funcrion L(q,dq,t) -> L'(q,p,t)
16:10 < valentin> but i do not see why you get a new physic out of that
16:10 < jsaw> you don't really
16:11 < valentin> just doing a reversable substitution of d/dt q => p
16:11 < jsaw> it's just that u use canonical coordinates
16:11 < jsaw> now
16:11 < valentin> but i lower the order of my differential equations to one
16:12 < jsaw> example: q -> euklidian coordinate, then p -> momentum
16:12 < jsaw> instead of q' -> velocity
16:13 < valentin> but those variables are not indepent with respect to temporal development of the system
16:14 < valentin> i do not understand how they are coupled together after the trafo
16:14 < valentin> the legendre transformation seems to ensure that, but i do not get it
16:15 < jsaw> wait a sec.
16:18 < rxr> valentin: in aprox. 20 min I plan to shut down my athlon in order to stick a DVD into it ...
16:18 < jsaw> so, you mean, dot(q) and p are related?
16:19 < jsaw> p = dL/d dot(q) ???
16:19 < jsaw> s/d/partial/
16:20 < jsaw> valentin: fax number?
16:21 < valentin> i just see i get p=dH/dq
16:21 < valentin> jsaw: do not have a fax
16:21 < valentin> but it is ok, i think i need to read deeper into that stuff anyway
16:23 < valentin> with a partial d it is dot(p)=dH/dq , so the Hammiltonian Energy function couples momentum to the movement
16:24 < valentin> dot(q)=dH/dp and dot(p)=-dH/dq
16:33 < rxr> one of my already repaired IBM hard disk is again defect...
16:34 < rxr> good it is part of a raid5 device ...
16:39 < CIA-9> rene * r4716 /trunk/target/bootdisk/x86/help0.txt:
16:39 < CIA-9> * updated the bootdisk target isolinux help text to match current
16:39 < CIA-9> reality (we might want to make that one dynamic, too)
16:50 < rxr> freenx and fedora: http://fedoranews.org/contributors/rick_stout/freenx/
16:51 < rxr> (google will soon love us ;-)
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16:53 < rxr> hi kensai
16:54 < kensai> rxr, Hi
16:58 < kensai> I can run t2 from my ubuntu installation flawlessly?
16:59 < rxr> kensai: what do you mean with "run"?
17:00 < rxr> kensai: building a new set of isos? just building some packages, etc. ...
17:00 < rxr> ?
17:02 < kensai> yeah just to build a distro]
17:02 < kensai> usingt2 tools
17:04 < rxr> that should be quite straight forward
17:04 < rxr> reminder what I should package soon: freenx: http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/nx/
17:04 < kensai> Ok
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17:07 < rxr> haha: how many platforms nx supports officially:
17:07 < rxr> The 1.4.0 release of NX Server includes support for the following platforms:
17:07 < rxr> - Linux i386
17:07 < rxr> - Solaris SPARC
17:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4717 /trunk/package/x11/ (nxcomp/nxcomp.desc nxproxy/nxproxy.desc): * updated nxcomp (1.3.2-4 -> 1.4.0-29) and nxproxy (1.3.2-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
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17:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4718 /trunk/package/x11/nxcomp/gcc34.patch:
17:20 < CIA-9> * improved the nxcomp/gcc34.patch by importing a better fix from
17:20 < CIA-9> FreeBSD (via FreeNX-kNX)
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18:18 < CIA-9> valentin * r4719 /trunk/package/kde/koffice/koffice.conf: * fixed koffice
18:20 < sparc-kly> hi kensai
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18:35 [Users #t2]
18:35 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ kensai] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ tschmidt_]
18:35 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ sparc-kly] [ valentin ]
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18:35 < rxr> rehi mnemoc
18:36 < mnemoc> hi rxr
18:36 < rxr> mnemoc: aside from the diet problem the bootdisk target is fixed now
18:36 < rxr> ISO transfer in progress ...
18:37 < rxr> the diet problem needs a fix of our gcc package - I test a rebuild when I reinstalled my athlon ...
18:37 < mnemoc> :(
18:37 < rxr> in the meantime you could handedit the spec file after a full bootdisk build ...
18:38 < rxr> I really wonder if it works in ROCK Linux - or if they just did not yet fixed the bug - but AFAICS it will not work unless cliffords evil spec file parameter insertion is removed ...
18:38 < rxr> but that was on my todo anyway
18:38 < rxr> so I'll just do it when I'm sure my current ISO works and can be released and I can rebuild the install target ...
18:39 < _Ragnar__> moin
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18:40 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_
18:40 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
18:41 < _Ragnar_> 'evil spec file parameter insertion' ?:)
18:41 < rxr> yep, and?
18:41 < mnemoc> sounds a bit G* :p
18:50 < rxr> G* what?
18:50 < mnemoc> gentoo
18:51 < rxr> what has it to do with gentoo?
18:52 < mnemoc> as we use wrappers they change spec file and usr CFLAGS
18:52 < rxr> hehe
18:53 < rxr> we already have this spec file hackup for a long time ...
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18:55 < kensai> sparc-kly, hi LOL
19:01 < rxr> (but only for the cross compiler ...)
19:02 < rxr> mnemoc: see mailing list - i commented via mail
19:03 < mnemoc> ok
19:04 < rxr> a proof of concept fix does already exist
19:04 < rxr> but you would need to rebuild the 0-* toolchain - and I want to test if it survives a build ...
19:05 * mnemoc wonders who to rebuild only stage-0 :p
19:11 < rxr> rm the log files
19:12 < mnemoc> :p
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19:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc
19:30 < rxr> _martin:
19:30 * rxr needs to learn to press often enough ...
19:30 < mnemoc> =)
19:30 * rxr just installing the freshly burned t2-2.1.0-beta CDs on the build athlon ..
19:31 < sparc-kly> hey i need athlon XP isos :D
19:31 < sparc-kly> lol
19:32 < sparc-kly> i print today t2 handbook in university . 131 pages = $10.48
19:33 < rxr> ouch you have to pay for in this way?
19:33 < rxr> in which country do you live?
19:33 < sparc-kly> Puerto Rico
19:33 < sparc-kly> in caribbean
19:33 < rxr> hm
19:34 < rxr> quite expensive ...
19:34 < sparc-kly> 0.08 is good
19:34 < sparc-kly> per page
19:35 < rxr> installer running ...
19:35 < mnemoc> 0.08 what?
19:35 < rxr> $ it seems
19:35 < mnemoc> i pay 0.03 dollars per printed page
19:37 < rxr> sparc-kly: I hope the handbook is worth it ;-)
19:38 < sparc-kly> 0.03 damn it . i hate PR LOL remember in island cost is very expensive .
19:38 < rxr> e.g. much stuff was recently s/ROCK [^ ]*/ T2/g and such ...
19:39 < sparc-kly> example i pay $40 monthly + telephone Line ( $22 ) for my DSL 256/128 .
19:40 < rxr> sparc-kly: better do not ask how much money I waste for my telephone line (I do not even want to have) and the DSL line (that sucks and I wanted another - not avail in this flat) over here in germany ...
19:40 < mnemoc> less that half of that here :p
19:41 < rxr> for reference and google hits: German Telekom telephone line (enforced on me) the damn t-dsl (I do not wanna have) and the lagging (read high latency) tiscali flat rate ...
19:41 < rxr> in contrast to those way more powerful and not phone-line enforcing qsc q-dsl offers ...
19:42 < rxr> just not available here in the middle of the street - it is in the beginning and at the end - too bad I live in no. 64 ... :-(
19:42 < sparc-kly> i need one 10mps conection :D
19:44 < mnemoc> rxr: http://pyre.third-bit.com/helium/subversion_linux.html <--- can you answer me a question about this?
19:46 < rxr> maybe
19:47 < rxr> mnemoc: what is the question?
19:47 < mnemoc> [calc:/projects/calc] <--- about this
19:48 < mnemoc> on access rules
19:48 < mnemoc> i have /foo as DAV svn
19:49 < mnemoc> can i have the repo at /foo/bar/repo ? instead of /foo/repo directly?
19:51 < mnemoc> uhm ... AuthzSVNAccessFile is not recognized by my module :(
19:55 < rxr> yes this should work
19:58 < valentin> rxr: i know someone who printed his books in turkey
19:58 < valentin> 2 Euro incl multicolored paperback
19:59 < valentin> for ~200p
19:59 < valentin> he printed 1000 books, so he payed 2000 Eur
20:00 < rxr> who?
20:01 < rxr> wow - high tech code from rock folks:
20:02 < rxr> While installing GEM file /mnt/...xemacs-beta-21.5.17.gem (usr/lib/.../files.elc(: Invalid arguemnt)
20:02 < rxr> Error while installing package xemacs-beta!
20:02 < rxr> (hand copied)
20:02 < rxr> xemacs-beta and xemacs-packages failed so far for this mystic reason
20:03 < rxr> we either might like to update mine or downdate ...
20:03 < rxr> extraction finished
20:03 < rxr> jsut the two errors above :-(
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20:05 < rxr> just even
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20:18 < Minto> Hi folks!
20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: problem still present
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21:48 < sparc-kly|home> hey exactcode.de is down ?
21:59 < rxr> re
21:59 < rxr> really
21:59 < rxr> hm - seems so
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22:12 < rxr> sdsl connection down
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22:51 < sparc-kly_> i hate my dsl
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22:53 < sparc-kly> very slow browsing wtf :S
23:09 < rxr> mnemoc: is this due to your stuff:
23:09 < rxr> grep: /var/adm/flist/*: No such file or directory
23:09 < rxr> -> INFO: '' detected as INIT
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23:25 < kensai> sparc-kly, thats 256K dude
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23:33 < rxr> ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP.txt
23:37 < daja77> hm does not load
23:41 < rxr> here it did load ...
23:42 < rxr> still does ...
23:42 < rxr> it's the link from:
23:42 < rxr> "Slackware's Pat needs your help
23:42 < rxr> Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru on 2004-11-16 21:18:02 UTC, submitted by Witek
23:42 < rxr> It was revealed that recent lack of updates of Slackware -Current has been caused by Patrick Volkerding's serious dicease. Read more at here. Pat asks for help."
23:46 < _martin> gn8 all
23:48 < daja77> oh
23:48 < daja77> i liked his rant on gnome ...
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23:59 < valentin> back online :)
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