T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-05
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--- Log opened Sun Dec 05 00:00:03 2004
--- Day changed Sun Dec 05 2004
00:00 * nullslack downloading packages for the minimal+xorg build ;)
00:02 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < mnemoc> rene: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:02 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:03 < nullslack> \t?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm not a awk guru - would read and test myself ...
00:04 < mnemoc> how, i always get syntax error :(
00:04 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
00:04 < mnemoc> nullslack: ?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: and with a real not a \t ?
00:04 < jsaw> $2"\t"$1
00:04 < nullslack> mnemoc, you should enclosed it in ""
00:05 < mnemoc> nullslack: awk '{ print "$2\t$1"; }' --> $2 and $1 as literals
00:05 < mnemoc> awk '{ print $2"\t"$1; }'
00:05 < mnemoc> puaj
00:05 < rxr> welcome jsaw
00:05 < mnemoc> that worked
00:06 < mnemoc> thanks jsaw :)
00:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: read what i said about pkgsel please
00:28 < jsaw> again in the lab and just stops by the computer once in while -> high lag
00:28 < jsaw> hi mnemoc, rxr, nullslack
00:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: I read it.
00:30 < jsaw> could you please write it to ml? I need more (free) time to think about it.
00:30 < mnemoc> ok :)
00:31 < jsaw> :)
00:43 -!- mtr [~michael@Hb51c.h.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:51 < rxr> 1010 builds total, 675 completed fine, 6 with errors.
01:24 < rxr> avision.c | 141 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
01:24 < rxr> avision.h | 1
01:24 < rxr> 2 files changed, 104 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
01:36 < rxr> syncing another set of:
01:36 < rxr> 12041 files to consider
01:40 < rxr> ouhm - also again getting a long night ...
01:40 < rxr> jsaw: you are in the lab on saturdays?
01:56 < mnemoc> re
02:02 < rxr> rehi mnemoc
02:02 < rxr> Nooooooooooo
02:02 < rxr> I forgot my tee .... :-(
02:04 < rxr> well - hacking all the conditionals into the existing C source I feel more and more how much cooler the code could have sorted by using some nice C++ classes ... ,-)
02:04 < rxr> to bad the SANE people do not wanna see C++ in SANE ....
02:06 < rxr> too even
02:17 * jsaw feels the pressure of the deadline
02:18 < rxr> jsaw: /me too - needs a firat beta MacOSX driver that does operate basically monday in one week ...
02:18 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.58] has joined #t2
02:18 < rxr> the driver core get's in shape for the new devices - so one week left for a colorful MacOSX graphical application (in Objective-C :-()
02:19 < jsaw> :|
02:19 < jsaw> me needed a few good pictures and a paper last week ...
02:19 < rxr> and I have to do some uni stuff in between ...
02:19 < rxr> ouhm :-\
02:20 < jsaw> well, nothing works as it's expected... it's fundamental research...
02:21 < jsaw> my "Frustrationtoleranz" (tolerance of frustration?) is huge (compared to 5 years ago) :)
02:21 < jsaw> +s
02:21 < rxr> hm 8-? - me not that experienced in the "fundamental research field" - except planable software projects ...
02:21 < jsaw> think of gsmp.
02:22 < rxr> yeah - that is pure lack of time ...
02:22 < jsaw> yep. one has the ideas, but...
02:22 < rxr> if there would be that killer Linux distribution or Development Environment I would not need to invest that much time in that area ...
02:25 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.47] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:25 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
02:25 < rxr> welcome back mnemoc
02:25 < mnemoc> hi rxr
02:26 < rxr> ok - let's see what my new "virtual scan by returning previously gathered duplex scan rear data" code does in real life ...
02:27 < rxr> oh god - I just commited 150 lines - and now I have again:
02:27 < rxr> avision.c | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
02:28 < rxr> ouhm - ok does not crash - but does not return the disk saved data ...
02:28 * rxr back to the drawing board ...
02:31 < rxr> hm - someone else from Hamburg just mailed me back regarding a bug discovered in my backend ...
02:31 < rxr> good to see other people are awake, too ...
02:32 < rxr> other people except us hackers ;-)
02:33 < rxr> oh - found it - I should not have started to use gotos ... *g*
02:33 < rxr> ouhm:
02:33 < rxr> $ grep goto avision.c | wc -l
02:33 < rxr> 27
02:34 < rxr> years ago there have been zero in it ... :-(
02:38 < mnemoc> i thought you could only see goto-s on lexers
02:38 < mnemoc> "goto considered harmfull", a good essay :)
02:38 < rxr> I know - I hate gotos myself ...
02:39 < rxr> just some pathes had so many conditionals that I started to use gotos for some error clenup cases
02:39 < mnemoc> f34rs
02:39 < rxr> those cases where I would use std:auto_ptr and smart objects that do the housekeeping in C++ ...
02:40 < rxr> 2002-06-30: René Rebe
02:40 < rxr> * more readable calibration decision (using goto ...)
02:40 < rxr> and since then more and more crept in for error case cleanup ...
02:41 < mnemoc> "suicide-objects considered harmfull" :)
02:41 < rxr> suicide?
02:41 < mnemoc> auto_ptr
02:41 < rxr> not self deleting - just house keeping in the destructor and such ...
02:41 < mnemoc> objects that commit suicide :)
02:41 < rxr> auto_ptr is just a owner control ...
02:41 < mnemoc> yes?
02:42 < rxr> auto_ptr
--- Day changed Sun Dec 05 2004
00:00 * nullslack downloading packages for the minimal+xorg build ;)
00:02 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < mnemoc> rene: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:02 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:03 < nullslack> \t?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm not a awk guru - would read and test myself ...
00:04 < mnemoc> how, i always get syntax error :(
00:04 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
00:04 < mnemoc> nullslack: ?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: and with a real
00:04 < jsaw> $2"\t"$1
00:04 < nullslack> mnemoc, you should enclosed it in ""
00:05 < mnemoc> nullslack: awk '{ print "$2\t$1"; }' --> $2 and $1 as literals
00:05 < mnemoc> awk '{ print $2"\t"$1; }'
00:05 < mnemoc> puaj
00:05 < rxr> welcome jsaw
00:05 < mnemoc> that worked
00:06 < mnemoc> thanks jsaw :)
00:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: read what i said about pkgsel please
00:28 < jsaw> again in the lab and just stops by the computer once in while -> high lag
00:28 < jsaw> hi mnemoc, rxr, nullslack
00:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: I read it.
00:30 < jsaw> could you please write it to ml? I need more (free) time to think about it.
00:30 < mnemoc> ok :)
00:31 < jsaw> :)
00:43 -!- mtr [~michael@Hb51c.h.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:51 < rxr> 1010 builds total, 675 completed fine, 6 with errors.
01:24 < rxr> avision.c | 141 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
01:24 < rxr> avision.h | 1
01:24 < rxr> 2 files changed, 104 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
01:36 < rxr> syncing another set of:
01:36 < rxr> 12041 files to consider
01:40 < rxr> ouhm - also again getting a long night ...
01:40 < rxr> jsaw: you are in the lab on saturdays?
01:56 < mnemoc> re
02:02 < rxr> rehi mnemoc
02:02 < rxr> Nooooooooooo
02:02 < rxr> I forgot my tee .... :-(
02:04 < rxr> well - hacking all the conditionals into the existing C source I feel more and more how much cooler the code could have sorted by using some nice C++ classes ... ,-)
02:04 < rxr> to bad the SANE people do not wanna see C++ in SANE ....
02:06 < rxr> too even
02:17 * jsaw feels the pressure of the deadline
02:18 < rxr> jsaw: /me too - needs a firat beta MacOSX driver that does operate basically monday in one week ...
02:18 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.58] has joined #t2
02:18 < rxr> the driver core get's in shape for the new devices - so one week left for a colorful MacOSX graphical application (in Objective-C :-()
02:19 < jsaw> :|
02:19 < jsaw> me needed a few good pictures and a paper last week ...
02:19 < rxr> and I have to do some uni stuff in between ...
02:19 < rxr> ouhm :-\
02:20 < jsaw> well, nothing works as it's expected... it's fundamental research...
02:21 < jsaw> my "Frustrationtoleranz" (tolerance of frustration?) is huge (compared to 5 years ago) :)
02:21 < jsaw> +s
02:21 < rxr> hm 8-? - me not that experienced in the "fundamental research field" - except planable software projects ...
02:21 < jsaw> think of gsmp.
02:22 < rxr> yeah - that is pure lack of time ...
02:22 < jsaw> yep. one has the ideas, but...
02:22 < rxr> if there would be that killer Linux distribution or Development Environment I would not need to invest that much time in that area ...
02:25 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.47] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
02:25 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
02:25 < rxr> welcome back mnemoc
02:25 < mnemoc> hi rxr
02:26 < rxr> ok - let's see what my new "virtual scan by returning previously gathered duplex scan rear data" code does in real life ...
02:27 < rxr> oh god - I just commited 150 lines - and now I have again:
02:27 < rxr> avision.c | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
02:28 < rxr> ouhm - ok does not crash - but does not return the disk saved data ...
02:28 * rxr back to the drawing board ...
02:31 < rxr> hm - someone else from Hamburg just mailed me back regarding a bug discovered in my backend ...
02:31 < rxr> good to see other people are awake, too ...
02:32 < rxr> other people except us hackers ;-)
02:33 < rxr> oh - found it - I should not have started to use gotos ... *g*
02:33 < rxr> ouhm:
02:33 < rxr> $ grep goto avision.c | wc -l
02:33 < rxr> 27
02:34 < rxr> years ago there have been zero in it ... :-(
02:38 < mnemoc> i thought you could only see goto-s on lexers
02:38 < mnemoc> "goto considered harmfull", a good essay :)
02:38 < rxr> I know - I hate gotos myself ...
02:39 < rxr> just some pathes had so many conditionals that I started to use gotos for some error clenup cases
02:39 < mnemoc> f34rs
02:39 < rxr> those cases where I would use std:auto_ptr and smart objects that do the housekeeping in C++ ...
02:40 < rxr> 2002-06-30: René Rebe
02:40 < rxr> * more readable calibration decision (using goto ...)
02:40 < rxr> and since then more and more crept in for error case cleanup ...
02:41 < mnemoc> "suicide-objects considered harmfull" :)
02:41 < rxr> suicide?
02:41 < mnemoc> auto_ptr
02:41 < rxr> not self deleting - just house keeping in the destructor and such ...
02:41 < mnemoc> objects that commit suicide :)
02:41 < rxr> auto_ptr is just a owner control ...
02:41 < mnemoc> yes?
02:42 < rxr> auto_ptr