T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-17

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--- Log opened Fri Dec 17 00:00:28 2004
00:28 -!- hannes_ [ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #t2
00:28 < hannes_> hi
01:27 < mnemoc> hi
01:29 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5087 /trunk/:
01:30 < mnemoc> err!
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02:32 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:32 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Dec 15 17:22:31 2004]
02:32 [Users #t2]
02:32 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ nullslack] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
02:32 [ CIA-9 ] [ hannes_] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
02:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
02:32 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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07:09 < rxr_> moin
07:10 -!- You're now known as rxr
07:10 < rxr> http://kurobox.com/
07:12 < CIA-9> rene * r5088 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc: * updated samba (3.0.9 -> 3.0.10) - SECURITY
07:14 < rxr> uro Box - a customizable embedded Linux development kit that allows users to create a customized embedded Linux solution via a root access shell session. Kuro Box also allows users to install an internal IDE hard drive of any size. The strategically designed, compact form factor boasts a PowerPC 200MHz processor with 64MB of RAM and 4MB of ROM. Kuro Box includes a 10/100 Ethernet port and a single USB 2.0 port to allow connections to various network and USB devices.
07:15 < rxr> There also is a 266Mhz, 128MB RAM version for 60$ more available ...
07:16 < rxr> cool - we are on http://distrowatch.com/
07:16 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=02170#0
07:21 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.13] has joined #t2
07:23 < rxr> our perl is slightly outdated
07:23 < rxr> perl (5.8.6)
07:24 < rxr> 5.8.3
07:24 < rxr> ok - breakfast
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08:40 < rxr> moin mnemoc
08:41 < jsaw> moin
08:41 < rxr> hi jsaw ;-)
08:42 < jsaw> hi rxr !
08:47 < jsaw> The Kuro Box HG boasts a PowerPC 266 MHz processor with double the RAM to 128 MB. Two USB interfaces and Gigabit Ethernet round up the differences and the standard Kuro Box. You choose the hard drive and enjoy the same freedom as the Kuro Box.
08:47 < jsaw> -> 240$
08:48 < CIA-9> rene * r5089 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.desc: * updated php (4.3.7 -> 4.3.10) - SECURITY
08:48 < jsaw> not so bad a price...
08:49 < rxr> I'll contact them - maybe we could get some sample if we do PR on our homepage or so ..
08:53 < jsaw> http://www.dlharmon.com/sbc.html
08:55 < rxr> nice
08:55 < jsaw> which reminds me to put geda on my TODO...
08:57 < jsaw> hehe: http://linuxcar.sone.jp/status.en.html
09:47 < rxr> jsaw: how are you?
09:48 < jsaw> fine actually. I decided to stay home on Wednesday and sleep all day and night - and voila - effiency increased. :)
09:48 < jsaw> =[1]=> Aborted building package binutils
09:48 < jsaw> :(
09:51 < jsaw> moo: error: `LONG_MIN' undeclared (first use in this function)
09:53 < jsaw> rxr: and you? working hard to get sane out?
09:56 < rxr> well it is not sane
09:57 < rxr> but our commercial osx sollution ...
09:57 < rxr> binutils broke?
09:57 < rxr> damn
09:59 < jsaw> checking. might be my host system. dietlibc also breaks in stage 1.
09:59 < jsaw> checking for limits.h... no
09:59 < jsaw> <- that's the problem.
10:02 < rxr> cool - yesterday we already had increased web traffic due to freshmeat - today we already have _now_ twice as much traffic
10:02 < jsaw> :)
10:04 < rxr> due to http://distrowatch.com
10:05 < jsaw> ic
10:06 < rxr> stuff to do?:
10:06 < rxr> mysql • 4.1.8
10:06 < rxr> 12/16
10:06 < rxr> man-pages • 2.00
10:06 < rxr> 12/16
10:06 < rxr> gtk+ • 2.6.0
10:06 < rxr> 12/16
10:06 < rxr> SpamAssassin • 3.0.2
10:12 < rxr> hm
10:13 < rxr> loading the mozilla ny-times pdf in the apple preview of osx makes my 640MB(!) Ibook quite unresponsive
10:13 < rxr> and it is still not on the screen ...
10:14 < rxr> hm - quite swapping ...
10:14 < rxr> xpdf was way faster ..
10:14 < rxr> under linux
10:14 < rxr> and did not eat all my ram
10:16 < rxr> VM: 4.43G + 90.9M 169971(867) pageins, 278251(1091) pageouts
10:18 < rxr> 470 Preview 68.6% 2:03.89 3 69 183 366M+ 4.15M+ 196M+ 725M
10:18 < rxr> 470 Preview 68.6% 2:03.89 3 69 183 366M+ 4.15M+ 196M+ 725M
10:18 < rxr> 470 Preview 75.0% 2:21.10 3 69 184 504M+ 4.15M- 381M+ 991M
10:18 < rxr> VM: 4.42G + 90.9M 232578(0) pageins, 323188(171) pageouts
10:18 < rxr> .oO
10:19 < rxr> ok - I prepare a coffe - I think this psoeduo OS needs some time to recover from this PDF shock
10:19 < jsaw> :)
10:21 < rxr> still not on the screen ...
10:21 < rxr> 470 Preview 79.5% 3:54.31 3 69 192 309M+ 4.23M 203M+ 708M
10:22 < rxr> VM: 4.21G + 90.9M 272415(5154) pageins, 385050(0) pageouts
10:22 < rxr> I have 640MB of DDR 266 RAM in this box - damn - it _can't_ take that long to render a 7xxkB PDF
10:22 < rxr> even if it includes soem thousand names ...
10:23 < jsaw> not really.
10:23 < rxr> oh - not it is on screen ...
10:25 < rxr> ouhm - and thewhole machine is nearly unusable right now ...
10:25 < rxr> VM: 5.45G + 90.9M 363916(1529) pageins, 744257(189286) pageouts
10:25 < rxr> 470 Preview 13.6% 5:33.83 3 69 184 506M+ 7.47M+ 87.1M- 2.08G
10:25 < rxr> well - ...
10:26 < rxr> and maybe most of the stuff is directly thrown via some display PostScript alike into the Cocoa graphic engine and it does not like some hundred thousands of text glyphs ...
10:30 < rxr> ok - 470 Preview 81.3% 6:19.77 3 69 184 499M 4.65M 314M+ 2.47G
10:30 < rxr> kill 470
10:31 < rxr> it was still "loading and hanging"
10:31 < rxr> although the first page was on the screen ...
10:31 < rxr> at least it looked better than in xpdf ...
10:41 < jsaw> cu later, rxr!
10:42 < jsaw> bye bye
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r5090 /trunk/package/network/apache/wrappers.in:
10:51 < CIA-9> * added an apxs wrapper to apache to circumvent the need to patch any
10:51 < CIA-9> apache addon to not call apxs with -a ...
11:07 < rxr> ouhm - now we nearly have 3 times the traffic than yesterday ...
12:26 < CIA-9> jeru * r5091 /trunk/package/network/apache/ (apache.conf config.in):
12:26 < CIA-9> * changed the "hard-wired" configure options for additional modules
12:26 < CIA-9> * now it is possible to configure it via the Apache dialog in the 'Config-Script'
13:03 < CIA-9> rene * r5092 /trunk/package/develop/php/ (apsx-fix.patch errno.patch no-httpd.conf.patch php.desc): * updated php (4.3.10 -> 5.0.3)
13:03 * rxr soon quickly off getting some stuff needed for my noddles for lunch ...
13:03 < rxr> btw. I submitted us to: http://symlink.ch/ - let's see when it shows up
13:12 < rxr> ouhm - battery will be empty in 17 minutes ...
13:14 < CIA-9> rene * r5093 /trunk/package/multimedia/ (mplayer/mplayer.desc xine-lib/xine-lib.desc):
13:14 < CIA-9> * updated mplayer (1.0pre5 -> 1.0pre5try2) - SECURITY - untested
13:14 < CIA-9> * updated xine-lib (1-rc7 -> 1-rc8) - SECURITY - untested
13:23 < rxr> hi hannes_
13:38 < rxr> ok - off getting some lunch ingredients
14:15 < mnemoc> moin!
14:16 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about moving subversion and php away of apache's prefix?
14:16 < rxr> no problem ...
14:17 < mnemoc> :)
14:18 < nullslack> t2 announcement from distrowatch ;)
14:18 < nullslack> hi rxr, mnemoc
14:18 < rxr> nullslack: yep - nice hm?
14:18 < rxr> ;-)9~
14:18 < rxr> our web server likes it ...
14:19 < mnemoc> rxr: how is the traffic?
14:19 < nullslack> hehehe...and ur svn repo will be fried in a couple of days ;)
14:20 < mnemoc> that's why i want to use svk :)
14:20 < nullslack> svk?
14:20 < mnemoc> distributed svn
14:21 < mnemoc> so i can keep my test branches local and merge only when something it 'ready'
14:21 < nullslack> ic
14:22 < mnemoc> the latency between chile and germany is high
14:22 < mnemoc> and against a frieten svn repo much higher
14:23 < mnemoc> fried*
14:43 < mnemoc> http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1034903,00.html?track=NL-102&ad=499476
15:00 < rxr> mnemoc: we are nearly at 10 times the normal traffic for this half day ...
15:00 < mnemoc> isn't that great? :)
15:00 < rxr> yep - very great
15:01 < hannes_> hi
15:01 < rxr> hi hannes_
15:01 < hannes_> rxr: ohh, the distrowatch robots got you =) *congratulations*
15:02 < jsaw> rxr: you know that ::Services:: -> x86 to Log yield 404?
15:02 < rxr> yes ..
15:02 < rxr> the services stuff has to be redone ...
15:03 < rxr> mnemoc: when there are enough nessus people they fork it ... ?
15:04 < mnemoc> mnemoc: norg :)
16:01 < CIA-9> jsaw * r5094 /trunk/scripts/ (functions parse-config):
16:01 < CIA-9> * fix building of 1-binutils: export CPP properly
16:01 < CIA-9> (obviously cpp was not found anymore, is this recent cmd_wrapper.c changes related?)
16:01 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
16:02 < jsaw> hi mnemoc -- though I'm not really here ;)
16:02 < mnemoc> :D
16:02 < jsaw> mnemoc: how big do you think a hotplug executable can be for initramfs?
16:03 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh... no idea
16:03 < jsaw> or let's say I keep it below 64k, would that be okay?
16:03 < mnemoc> how big is yours?
16:03 < jsaw> not sure, I'm still playing with the code.
16:05 < jsaw> the basic multiplexer /sbin/hotplug plus system diversion /etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug is now a 9k static/stripped.
16:07 < mnemoc> diet-static uclibc-static or glibc-static?
16:11 * mnemoc hoping svk don't do anything wrong this time
16:11 < mnemoc> err
16:12 < rxr> mnemoc: sorry - I should have tuned the UUID when I forked off t2 ...
16:12 < rxr> mnemoc: changing it now would be some pain ...
16:12 < rxr> but maybe we shoudl do sooner than later?
16:13 < rxr> maybe the morning of xmas so people get not annoyed when it happens during working ...
16:13 < rxr> the working copies would need either a tweak or recheckout ...
16:13 < mnemoc> clkao, mr. svk, seem to have fixed that
16:13 < mnemoc> clkao now i'm getting a bad file descriptor error :\
16:13 < mnemoc> even with svn-1.1.x
17:11 < jsaw> got interupted... and have to leave now, cu later ppl!
17:12 < jsaw> make: libz.a: Command not found
17:12 < mnemoc> cu
17:12 < jsaw> 1-zlib.err
17:12 < jsaw> ...
17:12 < mnemoc> o_O
17:12 < mnemoc> generic?
17:12 < jsaw> yep
17:13 < jsaw> ... gotta check the cmd_wrapper changes... don't I?
17:13 < mnemoc> i think so
17:13 < jsaw> well, later. cu!
17:15 < rxr> ouhm :-(
17:15 < rxr> .oO
17:22 < mnemoc> dumb question, does openssh support pgp for authotorized_keys?
17:24 < rxr> oeh? No idea either - I guess not ?
17:25 < mnemoc> :\
17:25 * rxr srarting a build to verify mein cmd_wrapper bits on the athlon in a full desktop builds
17:30 < mnemoc> http://www.red-bean.com/~nemo/openssh-gpg/
17:35 < mnemoc> does break, breaks an if?
17:40 < rxr> what ?
18:27 < mnemoc> if true; then if true; then break 2; fi; ls ; fi
18:27 < mnemoc> but desn't work
18:35 < rxr> arrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhh
18:35 < rxr> my brother annoys me
18:35 < rxr> my firewire disk does not work
18:35 < rxr> what did i need to load
18:35 < rxr> > modprobe ohci1394 ?
18:36 < rxr> ok
18:36 < rxr> does not work
18:36 < rxr> > is sbp2 loaded
18:36 < rxr> yes
18:36 < rxr> hm
18:36 < rxr> much talking and analysis
18:37 < rxr> > pull the plug - is there new text in the kernel log
18:37 < rxr> no
18:38 < rxr> oh - the ieee1394 cable is not plugged into the harddisk
18:38 < daja77> family rules ^^
18:38 < rxr> > waaah!
18:42 < mnemoc> :D
18:46 < rxr> the next time I start with - "Are all cables plugged in?"
18:46 < rxr> yes
18:46 < rxr> "Double check!"
18:46 < daja77> every help desk should do that
18:46 < mnemoc> :D
18:47 < mnemoc> one tend to filter those questions
19:01 < mnemoc> rxr: can this be due to the high load of your machine today? http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/svk_smerge.error
20:40 < rxr> the load is not that high
20:40 < rxr> it should respond quite promptly
20:41 < rxr> hm - no idea - do not know the perl code stuff ..
20:41 < rxr> but I do not think - the traffic is higher than usual - but the 512kB/s upstream is far from saturation ...
20:56 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5095 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Build-Target config.in): * replace ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR with ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE to continue after a fail only after defined stage, default:5
20:57 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5096 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target: * pkgloop_action fail rewritten to something more readable
20:58 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5097 /trunk/scripts/config.hlp: * ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE explained on config.hlp
21:00 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5098 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/svnperl-leak.patch: * patch (from svn-trunk) added to fix a leak on svnperl
21:01 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5099 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target: * rewrite some pkgloop's conditions to group by $build_only_this_job
21:02 < rxr> mnemoc: do I need to review those ?
21:02 < mnemoc> it would be nice
21:03 < mnemoc> but i think they are completely ok
21:05 < rxr> okok
21:05 < rxr> first evening dinner
21:05 < rxr> and then more osx coding
21:06 < mnemoc> how is your job going?
21:06 < rxr> well osx is getting on my nerves ...
21:07 < rxr> and I just got a message on my mailbox that there might be some new thing we might do
21:07 < rxr> no idea yet what ..
21:07 < rxr> so - looks good so far .. ;-)
21:07 < rxr> ok - tee - rolls, ... cu
21:08 < mnemoc> cu
21:08 < mnemoc> .oO( wasn't daja77 coding osx drivers once too? )o
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22:00 < jsaw> re
22:00 < mnemoc> re jsaw
22:01 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
22:09 < rxr> welcome jsaw
22:09 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:10 < rxr> oeh
22:10 < rxr> damn
22:10 < mnemoc> ?
22:10 < rxr> iTunes created a new entry in the playlist everytime I click on a mp3 ipv4 stream ...
22:10 < rxr> how useless ..
22:11 < rxr> Itunes the Apple music player ..
22:11 < rxr> iTunes even
22:11 < hannes_> i think the whole macosx is useless
22:11 < rxr> no the online shop (I don't use that)
22:12 < rxr> well - until I got payer for some development stuff I also seldom booted into it ...
22:12 < hannes_> haha...nice objective-c development
22:12 < rxr> well - objective C is nto that bad - at least better than plain C ...
22:12 < hannes_> but xcode is somehow nice when i looked at it
22:13 < rxr> and some stuff could even be a help in C++ ...
22:13 < hannes_> but why not use c++ then?
22:13 < rxr> but one does often not need to use ObjC ...
22:13 < rxr> we use it, because we decided to use the native UI stuff - not some procedurar wrappers around it ...
22:13 < rxr> Xcode is quite bad ...
22:14 < rxr> I epxected much more
22:14 < rxr> it only looks nice - until you do s.th. more than 3 files ...
22:14 < hannes_> ok, i just wrote on little c program in it
22:14 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5100 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Build-Target): * usage of ROCKCFG_RETRY_BROKEN adapted to honor ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE
22:14 < hannes_> are there plugins to svn now?
22:15 < rxr> and the syntax highlighting and indentation is quite less advanced
22:15 < rxr> it is static parsing - like vi or xemacs do ..
22:15 < rxr> for some commercial hyped thing I expect far more, reliable
22:16 < rxr> s/static parsing/static matching/
22:17 < rxr> hannes_: if you scrollback you can read what happend when I tried to load the 700kB PDF with the firefox advertisement with the Apple preview this morning ... *g*
22:18 < mnemoc> rxr: does -mk-chksum uncompress before calculating?
22:18 < rxr> oeh
22:18 < rxr> I hope ...
22:18 < mnemoc> read last post to the list
22:18 < rxr> when you ask this way it does not work?
22:21 < mnemoc> sorry, my brain is going wrong today
22:21 < mnemoc> i can't translate well
22:21 < mnemoc> it's too hot and this is a metallic structure without ventilation
22:22 < hannes_> rxr: *gg*
22:24 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/v/vlan.1.8*
22:24 < mnemoc> download/mirror/v/vlan.1.8-2.tar.bz2: 1670179684
22:24 < mnemoc> download/mirror/v/vlan.1.8.tar.gz: 1670179684
22:24 < mnemoc> it seems to do it
22:24 < mnemoc> if there is not difference i guess it was a repack
22:26 < rxr> i get the same error on the server
22:27 < mnemoc> should i hardcode a 1.8-2 version with the new (repacked) checksum
22:27 < mnemoc> o just hcange the checksum?
22:30 < rxr> change it
22:30 < mnemoc> ok
22:38 * mnemoc kicks gnome-terminal
22:39 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5101 /trunk/package/network/vlan/vlan.desc:
22:39 < CIA-9> * vlan-1.8's checksum changed, no visible changes on the new package.
22:39 < CIA-9> * CV-URL added for vlan
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22:39 < madtux> hi.
22:39 < mnemoc> madtux!
22:39 < madtux> hi mnemoc.
22:39 * rxr just phoning jeru, ...
22:39 < rxr> hi madtux
22:39 < mnemoc> :D
22:40 < mnemoc> rxr: i don't have that tool to contact developers :)
22:44 < rxr> hehe
22:44 < rxr> you havw
22:48 < jsaw> *grummel*
22:48 < jsaw> zlib configure uses fd 2 to decide if the compiler can produce shared libs....
22:48 < jsaw> no guess what fprintf(stder, ...) in cmd_wrapper does...
22:49 < jsaw> now...
22:49 < mnemoc> that's easy to patch :)
22:49 < jsaw> rxr: can I sed s,stderr,stdout, or is stderr important?
22:55 < rxr> rip the debug output ...
22:55 < jsaw> okay.
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23:07 < CIA-9> jsaw * r5102 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
23:07 < CIA-9> * remove debug output outside #ifdef VERBOSE_DEBUG
23:07 < CIA-9> (using stderr confuses at least a compiler check in zlib configure
23:07 < CIA-9> script, maybe others too?)
23:08 < mnemoc> jsaw: thanks :)
23:08 < rxr> VERBOSE_DEBUG is always defined
23:08 < rxr> (right now)=
23:08 < mnemoc> o_O
23:08 < jsaw> yep, but there's always if (debug) used there
23:08 < rxr> make sure you remove all - also the ones in the #ifdef ...
23:09 < rxr> oh
23:09 < jsaw> in some cases it might be handy to check what cmd_wrapper is doing.
23:09 < jsaw> debug is set if CMD_WRAPPER_DEBUG=1
23:09 < jsaw> this is always done at each package build start
23:10 < jsaw> CMD_WRAPPER_DEBUG=1 $(CC) --verbose
23:10 < jsaw> Command Wrapper Debug: running 'i586-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc --version' ..
23:11 < jsaw> <- on top of each log
23:12 < rxr> so ;-)
23:13 < rxr> so far:
23:13 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList
23:13 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.1.0-beta2-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
23:13 < rxr> [1] archiver/zlib [1] filesystem/squashfs-tools
23:13 < rxr> [3] archiver/zlib
23:13 < rxr> 1015 builds total, 110 completed fine, 3 with errors.
23:13 < jsaw> the zlib errors should be solved now!
23:13 < rxr> jups
23:14 < rxr> just svn up'ed and testing ..
23:15 < mnemoc> rxr: if you have a minute, don't forget to validate my last bunch of kind-of-intrusive-patches, please
23:15 < jsaw> for what is dietlibc used in stage 1?
23:16 < mnemoc> old declaration of bootdisk?
23:17 < jsaw> another question, if a static diet-libc linked program is executed, fl_wrapper will miss it?
23:18 < mnemoc> i think yes
23:19 < jsaw> so somebody wishing to build a dietlibc based distro will have to use strace or so?
23:20 < mnemoc> find ?
23:21 < jsaw> hmmm.
23:22 < mnemoc> what do you propose?
23:24 < jsaw> I have a strange feeling if something can be lost.
23:24 < jsaw> But nothing to propose yet.
23:25 < mnemoc> jsaw: t2fs :)
23:26 < jsaw> oh yeah right. I heard something about rock shadowfs. But didn't have a look.
23:26 < mnemoc> which is the package to create userspace filesystems?
23:26 < rxr> fuse ?
23:26 < mnemoc> jsaw: shadowfs is a symlink based thing controlled by fl_wrapper
23:26 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks
23:26 < jsaw> okay, forget shadowfs.
23:27 < jsaw> <- looking at fuse
23:28 < rxr> as far as I heared fuse can be or even is already used for transparent "overmounts"
23:28 < rxr> and yes, cliffords shadow depends on dynamic libraries beeing available ...
23:28 < mnemoc> fuse depends on patched kernel, isn't it?
23:28 < rxr> yes
23:28 < rxr> but sooner or later it might be in mainstream ...
23:29 < rxr> our default kernels should already ship the module
23:29 < jsaw> then it's also not the best idea.
23:29 < rxr> due to linuxpost.conf ;-)
23:29 < rxr> but the kernel does not need a patch (AFAIK)
23:29 < rxr> it can be build as normal add-on mdoule
23:29 < mnemoc> jsaw: it may not replace fl_wrapper but it can be a good alternative
23:29 < rxr> yeah - not perfect. Linux only, e.g. no OSX ...
23:30 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.1.0-beta2-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
23:30 < rxr> [1] filesystem/squashfs-tools
23:30 < rxr> 1015 builds total, 114 completed fine, 1 with errors.
23:30 < mnemoc> madtux posted his patches :\
23:30 < rxr> thanks jsaw for the fix
23:30 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.101] has joined #t2
23:30 < madtux> re
23:30 < rxr> hey! He should have write access ...
23:30 < jsaw> <- somehow thinks using a DESTDIR may solve the problem more easily
23:30 < mnemoc> madtux!
23:30 < jsaw> hi madtux
23:30 < madtux> damn connection!
23:30 < madtux> hello jsaw, rxr, mnemoc and everyone else
23:30 < mnemoc> madtux posted his patches :\
23:31 < mnemoc> hi mike :)
23:31 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> hey! He should have write access ...
23:31 < rxr> hi madtux !
23:31 < madtux> mnemoc: as i said before my god damn connection is killing me.. please bear with me for a few more days i'm not on a decent connection
23:31 < madtux> i know ya'll would scream
23:32 < mnemoc> madtux: what happened?
23:32 < jsaw> madtux: the zip patch is wrong
23:32 < rxr> could you test your account before I'm in xmas traveling ?
23:32 < madtux> jsaw: ?
23:32 < madtux> rxr: yes i will on mondy or so
23:32 < rxr> good ;-)
23:32 < jsaw> madtux: if u use sourceforge, always use http://dl.sourceforge.net <- load balancing
23:32 < rxr> brave boy *g*
23:33 < mnemoc> :)
23:33 < jsaw> dito for unzip
23:33 < madtux> jsaw: very well.
23:34 < jsaw> otherwise it looks good. I'd correct it if my tree wouldn't be in a horrible mess right now...
23:34 * rxr in the dark corner of the desk tracking mach kernel BADACCESS fault in my driver, so ...
23:35 < mnemoc> and
23:35 < mnemoc> and
23:35 < mnemoc> err
23:35 < jsaw> ?
23:35 < mnemoc> damn gnome-terminal!!!!
23:35 < rxr> yes - it is damn - use another one ,-)
23:36 < rxr> (so far I only have seen on more disfunctional terminal: Apple's Terminal.app)
23:36 < mnemoc> and g-wrap can be improved to not use hardcoded slib :p
23:36 < mnemoc> rxr: any suggestion without needing to install qt?
23:36 < rxr> ouhm ;-)
23:36 < mnemoc> :)
23:37 < rxr> some versions of rxvt-unicode are quite nice ...
23:37 < rxr> if HEAD of it is I do not know (yet)
23:37 < rxr> but you need g++ for it *g*
23:37 < rxr> but no Qt
23:37 < mnemoc> g++ is ok :)
23:38 < madtux> mnemoc: what happaned is that a important project required myself to move to another "town"
23:38 < mnemoc> inside .cr?
23:39 < madtux> yes
23:39 < madtux> but at a very unaccesible area
23:39 < madtux> they needed a "cisco expert"
23:39 < mnemoc> good money at least? :)
23:39 < daja77> madtux!
23:40 < madtux> mnemoc: $100 / hour :)
23:40 < madtux> daja77: hi
23:40 < mnemoc> madtux: =)
23:40 < madtux> ok folks i must leave u know
23:40 < madtux> i will come back for 1/2 a bit tomorrow again
23:40 < madtux> :)
23:40 < jsaw> hi daja77
23:40 < madtux> with some more patches :)
23:40 < madtux> *g*
23:41 < daja77> hi jsaw
23:41 < madtux> cya
23:41 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.101] has quit ["leaving"]
23:41 < mnemoc> jsaw: will you or i apply them?
23:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: please do so! please please please :)
23:42 < mnemoc> ok
23:47 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5103 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc:
23:47 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:47 < CIA-9> * Updated alien ( 8.34 > 8.50 )
23:48 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5104 /trunk/package/archiver/ncompress/ncompress.desc:
23:48 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:48 < CIA-9> * Fixed ncompress cksum - verified from the original URL
23:49 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5105 /trunk/package/archiver/ (unzip/unzip.desc zip/zip.desc):
23:49 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:49 < CIA-9> * Changed the download URL for zip and unzip as the master no longer works
23:49 < jsaw> mnemoc: default settings for $ROCKCFG_\
23:49 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5106 /trunk/package/audio/ladspa-caps/ladspa-caps.desc:
23:49 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:49 < CIA-9> * Updated ladspa-caps ( 0.1.12 > 0.2.0 )
23:49 < jsaw> ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE
23:49 < jsaw> ups
23:49 < jsaw> may be a problem
23:49 < mnemoc> yes?
23:49 < mnemoc> where?
23:50 < jsaw> == 12/17/04 23:50:47 =[1]=> Aborted building package dietlibc.
23:50 < jsaw> root@volans:/scratch/src/t2# nice -19 ./scripts/Build-Target
23:50 < jsaw> Removing old error logs ...
23:50 < jsaw> -> Removing var/adm/logs/1-dietlibc.err ...
23:50 < jsaw> == 23:54:04 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.27 2.1.0-beta2].
23:50 < mnemoc> change it to 0 if you want to let 1-dietlibc fail
23:51 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5107 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/noteedit.desc:
23:51 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:51 < CIA-9> * Updated noteedit ( 2.6.2 > 2.7.3 )
23:52 < mnemoc> jsaw: why do you want 1-dietlibc let fail?
23:52 < daja77> noteedit ...
23:52 < mnemoc> jsaw: why do you want to let 1-dietlibc fail?
23:52 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5108 /trunk/package/audio/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
23:52 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:52 < CIA-9> * Fixed version for xmms-crossfade the latest version is 0.3.5 not 0.3.8
23:52 < CIA-9> * Updated xmms-nebulus ( 0.6.0 > 0.7.0 )
23:52 < CIA-9> * Changed the download URL for xmms-nebulus to the one been used since the main went down
23:52 < mnemoc> daja77: problems?
23:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: somehow my build system doesn't compile it... ssp interference, and -fno-stack-protector seems not to work...
23:52 < daja77> no
23:53 < mnemoc> daja77: :)
23:54 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5109 /trunk/package/contrib/grace/grace.desc:
23:54 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:54 < CIA-9> * Update grace ( 5.1.14 > 5.1.17 )
23:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: the idea of my patch was to 'force' stabilization :p
23:55 < mnemoc> jsaw: but you can Config it to force abort only on stage 0
23:55 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5110 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/bdb33.desc:
23:55 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:55 < CIA-9> * Updated bdb33 download URL
23:55 < jsaw> <- decided to find out why it doesn't build :)
23:55 < mnemoc> jsaw: great :D
23:56 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5111 /trunk/package/contrib/g-wrap/ (g-wrap.conf g-wrap.desc):
23:56 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:56 < CIA-9> * Updated g-wrap's slib ( 2d5 > 3a1 )
23:56 < CIA-9> * Updated g-wrap.conf becase slib's tar is hardcoded there.
23:56 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5112 /trunk/package/x86/cpuburn/cpuburn.desc:
23:56 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:56 < CIA-9> * Updated cpuburn URL and download URL
23:57 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5113 /trunk/package/x86/sonypid/sonypid.desc:
23:57 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:57 < CIA-9> * Added sonypid URL and updated the download URL
23:57 < daja77> why he doesn't have write access ...
23:58 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5114 /trunk/package/x86/spicctrl/ (install-prefix.patch spicctrl.desc):
23:58 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:58 < CIA-9> * Added spicctrl URL and updated the download URL
23:58 < CIA-9> * Updated spicctrl ( 1.6 > 1.7 )
23:58 < CIA-9> * Updated spicctrl's install-prefix.patch to apply to the new version
23:58 < mnemoc> daja77: he has, but he is lazy
23:58 < daja77> ah you are butlertux
23:59 < mnemoc> :(
23:59 < daja77> :D
23:59 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5115 /trunk/package/x86/x86info/x86info.desc:
23:59 < CIA-9> Miguel Bolanos :
23:59 < CIA-9> * Updated x86info URL and download URL
23:59 < CIA-9> * Updated x86info ( 1.11 > 1.12b )
23:59 < mnemoc> finished
23:59 < mnemoc> :)
--- Log closed Sat Dec 18 00:00:07 2004