--- Log opened Mon Dec 27 00:00:46 2004 00:07 < rxr> no 00:07 < jsaw> http://slashdot.org/articles/04/12/26/181240.shtml?tid=126&tid=1 00:08 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:08 < jsaw> I wonder why a tape is still of interest. I assume they want to release the holographic stuff a couple of years later... 00:22 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 00:25 < rxr> any release name idea 00:30 < jsaw> your own sweet way 00:31 < jsaw> (song title, The NOtting Hillbillies, Mark Knopfler etal.) 00:33 < jsaw> nice music, btw 00:38 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:40 < jsaw> sending SIGSLEEP to self... 00:40 < jsaw> cu rxr! 00:50 < rxr> cu 01:01 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 01:40 < CIA-9> rene * r5244 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel26-disable.lst: * no CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 for linux 2.6 on powerpc (does not compile) 01:40 < CIA-9> rene * r5243 /trunk/scripts/Create-ISO: * increased default ISO size to 650MB 01:54 < rxr> mnemoc: the ld-glob patch does not eem to cause regressions over here ... 01:54 < rxr> my beta3 build is at 3-perl 01:59 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.32] has joined #t2 02:03 < rxr> hi mnemoc 02:10 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:12 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.26] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:12 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 02:12 < rxr> hi mnemoc ideal 02:21 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:23 < rxr> jsaw: I removed the gnome and avifile LD hacks now we have ld globbing - let's see if all builds ... 02:29 < mnemoc> hi rxr 02:29 < mnemoc> rxr: you found the problem with ld-globbing? 02:29 * mnemoc shower 02:30 < mnemoc> or however it writes 02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: I had none ... 02:40 < rxr> bulids here ... 02:40 < rxr> so - me bed ... 02:40 < rxr> n8 all 02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: please no freshmeat announcement yet - let's wait until my ISO is on the server again ... 02:40 < rxr> managed to rm it ... 02:42 < mnemoc> ok 02:42 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 02:46 < rxr> btw. I think we have an bug in the post install password set dialog 02:46 < rxr> I think it fails the first time 02:46 < rxr> due to some "library not found" ldconfig needed reason 02:46 < rxr> the -beta2 might be affected 02:46 < rxr> I saw this with -beta and with -beta2 on my brothers box 02:47 < rxr> Im not sure if it happend on my farthers box since I chrooted into the new system quite quickly and was not able to reproduce it anymore ... 02:47 < rxr> but - I need sleep now .. 03:22 < mnemoc> i could never set password via dialog thing on rock neither 04:02 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@66.50.161.111] has joined #t2 06:06 -!- hannes_ [ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:34 -!- nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #t2 07:25 -!- nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:35 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 11:31 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:56 < rxr> moin 12:56 < rxr> mnemoc: in the past it worked 13:08 < rxr> here - with normal pentium-mmx builds - the ld globbing does not cause regressions ... 13:13 < rxr> Error logs from install-2.1.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk: 13:13 < rxr> 161 builds total, 161 completed fine, 0 with errors. 13:14 < rxr> hm - ok - strangely enough glibc fails in stage 5 in my desktop build ... 13:14 < rxr> maybe this is due to the globbing patch 13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x513): I 13:15 < rxr> n function `hosts_keys': 13:15 < rxr> getent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyaddr' 13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x520):ge 13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyname2' 13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x530):ge 13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyname2' 13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x821): I 13:15 < rxr> n function `networks_keys': 13:15 < rxr> getent.c: undefined reference to `getnetbyaddr' 13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x82a):ge 13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `getnetbyname' 13:15 < rxr> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 13:18 < rxr> oh - we are already on distrowatch.com ;-) 13:22 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 13:30 < CIA-9> rene * r5246 /trunk/scripts/Download: 13:30 < CIA-9> * only use -z4 instead of -z9 for cvs checkouts as recommended by the 13:30 < CIA-9> KDE project 13:43 < mnemoc> moin! 13:52 < rxr> moin mnemoc 13:53 < rxr> damn crap: 13:53 < rxr> configure.in:6: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion 13:53 < rxr> I give up - damn auto* junk 13:54 < mnemoc> =) 13:59 < rxr> the sourceforge mirror thing did nto yet change to a functional state 13:59 < rxr> what do we want to do about it ? 14:00 < mnemoc> we have everything on our mirrors... do we need to change download locations? 14:00 < rxr> no - but I have to get files during the updates I just wanted to perform .. 14:01 < CIA-9> rene * r5247 /trunk/package/network/iptables/iptables.desc: * updated iptables (1.2.9 -> 1.2.11) 14:02 < mnemoc> rxr: ok, what mirror will we use on new updates? unc? 14:02 < rxr> that is the question ... 14:02 < rxr> maybe we should contact sf.net and ask for recommendation 14:03 < mnemoc> ack 14:03 < rxr> e.g. maybe they have some balanving URL ... 14:03 < mnemoc> maybe they have removed intentionally their balancer 14:09 < mnemoc> http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tortoisecvs/TortoiseCVS-1.8.10.exe <--- this test worked 14:10 < mnemoc> rxr: what about doing this hotfix directly on Download instead of [D]s? 14:10 < mnemoc> it's a dirty˛ hack but it will keep [D]s clean 14:12 < mnemoc> at least while sf.net fix their problem 14:17 < rxr> let's just teak the urls during updates 14:17 < rxr> and do nothing further 14:17 < mnemoc> ok 14:17 < rxr> I think it is intentinal and I just mailed them .. 14:17 < mnemoc> ok 14:17 < mnemoc> # svn cleanup 14:17 < mnemoc> svn: Can't open directory 'trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/.svn/tmp': No such file or directory 14:17 < CIA-9> rene * r5248 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: * updated abiword (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2) 14:17 < mnemoc> how can i properly fix that? 14:18 < mnemoc> mkdir ? 14:18 < CIA-9> rene * r5249 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1-rc8 -> 1.0) 14:18 < rxr> if you did not modify the package I would simply 14:18 < rxr> rm -rf package/gnome2/gcalctool 14:18 < rxr> svn up .. 14:19 < mnemoc> ah, ok... let svn recosntruct it :) 14:23 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about xfce4.1.99.3 on trunk? 14:30 < rxr> hehe 14:30 < rxr> just wanted to ask about it ... 14:30 < rxr> would be nice if you could commit it ... 14:31 < mnemoc> ok 14:34 < mnemoc> btw, xfce4-themes and xffm-icons seem to be gone 14:40 < mnemoc> xfce4-icon-theme seems to have replaced xffm-icons 14:50 < rxr> ok ;-) 14:50 < rxr> me off to my brothers box and then lunch .. 14:50 < rxr> cu 14:54 < mnemoc> cu rxr 15:05 < CIA-9> rene * r5250 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase/kdm.cron: 15:05 < CIA-9> * fixed kdm session generation for kde 3.3 (only proof of concept 15:05 < CIA-9> tested on another box that has no internet connection right now) 15:08 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.102] has joined #t2 15:08 < mnemoc> madtux! 15:08 < madtux> hello. :) 15:16 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5251 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (xfce4-themes/ xffm-icons/): 15:16 < CIA-9> * removed xffm-icons due to XFCE update 15:16 < CIA-9> * removed xfce4-themes due to XFCE update 15:17 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5252 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (29 files in 23 dirs): (log message trimmed) 15:17 < CIA-9> * added xfce4-appfinder (4.1.99.3) 15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce-utils (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3) 15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3) 15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce4-systray (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3) 15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfwm4-themes (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3) 15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfprint (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3) 16:15 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5253 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * fixed xfcalendar checksum 17:21 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.102] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:22 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:28 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info] has joined #t2 18:29 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info] has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@s15173431.rootmaster.info] has joined #t2 19:16 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:21 < rxr> re 20:25 < mnemoc> re rxr 20:25 < mnemoc> (nicklist.pl for irssi is very nice) 20:28 < rxr> what does it do ? 20:29 < mnemoc> it adds a vertical column with nick list 20:29 < mnemoc> using screen features 20:30 < mnemoc> very customable 20:30 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - I do not think I need it ;~:-) 20:30 * mnemoc feels like an xchat user :) 20:50 < valentin> rehi from the congress network (hopefully...) 20:51 < mnemoc> c3? 20:52 < valentin> yes 21:00 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@66.50.161.111] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:20 < daja77> valentin: where are you? 21:21 < valentin> at "your" booth *g* 21:21 < valentin> 3 m behind you 21:24 -!- ]Error[ [live2kill@nae534.emirates.net.ae] has joined #T2 21:24 < ]Error[> hi 21:24 < ]Error[> any more here? 21:24 < ]Error[> :) 21:30 -!- ]Error[ is now known as notError 21:30 -!- notError is now known as ]Error[ 21:31 -!- ]Error[ is now known as Evir 21:31 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@66.50.161.111] has joined #t2 21:32 < Evir> hi sprac 21:32 < daja77> ah now trolling here ... 21:32 < Evir> aaa 21:32 < Evir> lol 21:33 < Evir> :D 21:33 < Evir> hhhhhhhhhhh 21:33 < Evir> hehehe 21:33 < Evir> like i sayed 21:33 < Evir> i was in corect chan 21:33 < Evir> when i asked about t2 21:33 < Evir> its look like tea 2 21:33 < Evir> or 21:33 < Evir> tea twice 21:33 < Evir> same thinges like this 21:34 * Evir dreaming of daja77 she is a guy and not girl and her tits gooo 21:34 < Evir> are you happy now 21:34 < Evir> ;P 21:34 < valentin> Evir wants to get kicked .... 21:35 < daja77> looks like that 21:35 < Evir> lol 21:35 < Evir> i have one question only 21:36 < Evir> does T2 is a way to bould new linux destro? 21:36 < valentin> hope it is a serios one 21:36 < Evir> yes 21:36 < Evir> "D 21:36 < Evir> :D 21:36 < valentin> Evir: read the website info 21:36 < Evir> lol 21:36 < Evir> i know it 21:36 < valentin> www.exactcode.de/t2 21:36 < Evir> and its serios 21:36 < Evir> and not fake questi0n like my freind 21:36 < Evir> ;P 21:36 < Evir> ]Error[: you have a question about the kernel? 21:36 < Evir> <]Error[> yes 21:37 < Evir> doo i need kernel with t2? 21:37 < Evir> Any Answer? 21:37 < Evir> :D 21:38 < Evir> and ma really questio is :D 21:38 < valentin> you need a running linux system that includes a running kernel 21:38 < Evir> haa 21:38 < Evir> soo i must get linux firsT? 21:38 < Evir> ;P 21:38 < valentin> you can use any common up to date linux distro you downloaded somewhere 21:39 < Evir> i dont undrtand it 21:39 < Evir> id like to make linux less then 200 MB coz i cant get linux cd 21:39 < Evir> soo whats i need to do 21:39 < Evir> to buld linux? 21:39 < Evir> with x-window 21:40 < Evir> and suppoting gvv 21:40 < Evir> and suppoting gcc, g+++ 21:40 < valentin> why can't you download a linux cd iso ? 21:44 < Evir> i dont have dsl 21:44 < Evir> i have dalup 21:45 < Evir> and my speed is 4kb in a sec 21:45 < Evir> and i dont have any freind have dsl can help me 21:45 < Evir> :\ 21:45 < daja77> you can order cds by mail 21:45 < Evir> and isp commpany will support dsl in this area in 2005/06/01 or 08/01 21:45 < Evir> i dont remmber 21:45 < valentin> Evir: if you want to build a system, the sources are usualy much bigger than the compiled binaries 21:46 < Evir> i dont have visa or master card 21:46 < Evir> :\ 21:46 < Evir> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! 21:46 < valentin> do you have any *nix system running ? 21:47 < Evir> aaaaa 21:47 < Evir> i have 2 cds 'one 50 mb i downloaded and anther 80 mb" 21:47 < Evir> but the problem they are are booting from cd 21:48 < Evir> noo way to run them from hd 21:48 < Evir> :\ 21:49 < Evir> can any one 21:49 < Evir> burn a cd and send it to me by mail? 21:49 < Evir> :D 21:50 < Evir> * meff (~meff@meff.user) has joined #debian 21:50 < Evir> can any one 21:50 < Evir> burn a cd and send it to me by mail? 21:50 < Evir> :D 21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice 21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice 21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice 21:50 < Evir> :\ 21:52 < valentin> Evir: what country ? 21:53 < Evir> uae 21:53 < Evir> emirates 21:54 < Evir> [where dubai is ;p] 21:54 < Evir> you know it? 21:54 < valentin> never been there, but i know where it is on the map 21:54 < Evir> goood 21:54 < Evir> midel east :P 21:54 < Evir> ok doo you find any shop selling linux? 21:55 < valentin> i do not know where to order linux in the uae ... 21:55 < Evir> and not linux redhat v6 or v7 21:55 < Evir> eops 21:55 < Evir> ;\ 22:03 < mnemoc> rehi 22:05 < valentin> hi mnemoc 22:05 < mnemoc> hi valentin 22:08 < Evir> hi mne 22:08 < Evir> :) 22:09 < mnemoc> hi Evir 22:09 < Evir> sup? 22:09 < mnemoc> sup what? 22:12 < Evir> sup = whats up= wzup = wtsup <<<==== 1 22:12 < mnemoc> =) 22:30 -!- Evir [live2kill@nae534.emirates.net.ae] has quit [Client Quit] 22:41 < mnemoc> rxr: here? 22:42 < valentin> mnemoc: does not seem so .. 22:42 < mnemoc> but you are :) 22:42 < rxr> hi 22:42 < mnemoc> debug-dansguardian:[dansguardian-2.8.0.3]# type -p cpp 22:42 < mnemoc> /usr/bin/cpp 22:42 < mnemoc> debug-dansguardian:[dansguardian-2.8.0.3]# type -p g++ 22:42 < mnemoc> /TOOLCHAIN/build/full-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentiumpro-32-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.chroot/wrapper/g++ 22:43 < mnemoc> shouldn't cpp be wrapped too? 22:43 < rxr> hm - no idea 22:43 < rxr> it might be not yet ... 22:43 < mnemoc> dansguardian use it 22:44 < mnemoc> cpp -O2 -Wall -c String.cpp 22:44 < mnemoc> cpp: "-c" is not a valid option to the preprocessor 22:44 < mnemoc> and fails :) 22:44 < rxr> hm - maybe patching those evil uses might be better (and send it upstream) 22:44 < rxr> but we could add a cpp wrapper, too 22:45 < mnemoc> it use $(CPP) which points to cpp 22:45 < mnemoc> would it be ok to build it with g++ which is wrapped? 22:45 < rxr> oh - it wasnts to compile C++ with it ? 22:45 < mnemoc> or -c is wide wrong? 22:46 < rxr> depends whether it wants to preprocess for some dependency or so generatrion 22:46 < rxr> or really wants to compile the source ... 22:46 < rxr> for the later I would set CPP to g++ ... 22:46 < rxr> I did this for another package recently, too 22:46 < mnemoc> is it too evil to do it on global parse-config? 22:47 < rxr> audio/ladspa/ladspa.conf:var_append makeopt " " "CPP=$CXX" 22:47 < rxr> no - CPP is C Pre Processor ... 22:47 < rxr> only very strange people use it for C Plus Plus compiler 22:47 < rxr> everyone knows that is CXX ... 22:47 < mnemoc> ic 22:47 < rxr> or CC 22:47 < rxr> erh - no - me confused ... ;-) 22:48 < mnemoc> i'll use your hack 22:48 < mnemoc> CXX 22:48 < valentin> hi rxr 22:48 < rxr> hi valentin 22:48 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 22:49 < mnemoc> hi CIA! 22:50 < rxr> embedded C++: 22:50 < rxr> diet gcc -O3 -nostdlib --no-rtti --no-rtti -lsupc++ your files ... 22:51 < rxr> if you wanna use exceptions you need: 22:51 < rxr> -lgcc_s 22:51 < mnemoc> supc++? 22:51 < rxr> and err - typo in my first line 22:52 < rxr> diet gcc -O3 -nostdlib --no-rtti --no-exceptions -lsupc++ your files ... 22:52 < rxr> mnemoc: C++ support stuff like new and delete operators 22:53 < mnemoc> aha... the c++ stuff ansi-c people like me use :) 22:53 < valentin> cu later 22:53 < rxr> cu valentin 22:53 < rxr> happy congress 22:57 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5254 /trunk/package/network/dansguardian/ (dansguardian.conf dansguardian.desc): 22:57 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian (2.6.1-13 -> 2.8.0.3) 22:57 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian AV (3.1 -> 4.2) 22:57 < CIA-10> * fixed dansguardian which uses $CPP as c++ compiler 23:11 < mnemoc> http://www.harvest.com.br/asp/afn/dg.nsf <---- what kind of 'improvements' are those?? 23:12 < mnemoc> http://www.harvest.com.br/asp/afn/wcfp.nsf/449683f58d33d9bb83256e3e007f50a6/118e6b231f94aba483256f310067f027/$FILE/dansguardian-2.8.0.3-antivirus-6.3.6.tar.gz <--- what kind of download location is that??!! 23:14 < rxr> hm 23:14 < mnemoc> errr 23:15 < mnemoc> lag 23:15 < mnemoc> o_O 23:15 < mnemoc> forget my err 23:16 < mnemoc> screeen is 'confused' with that long line and it mixed my windowes so i thought i had pasted on the wrong channel 23:31 < CIA-10> rene * r5255 /trunk/package/network/apache/apache.conf: * fixed apache's conditional to enable LDAP support 23:32 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/build/minimal-2.1.0-beta3-x86-generic-expert/usr/include/linux/if_fddi.h:110: error: field `gen' has incomplete type 23:32 < mnemoc> make[1]: *** [fddi.o] Error 1 23:32 < mnemoc> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/src.net-tools.1104186239.4924.0/net-tools-1.60/lib' 23:32 < mnemoc> my first casualty using 2.6.10 headers 23:33 < mnemoc> oops... i forgot to commit that :\ 23:33 < rxr> hm 23:34 < mnemoc> hm=apache or hm=net-tools 23:34 < rxr> linux-header regressions 23:35 < mnemoc> "using 2.6.10 headers" <--- on my sandbox tree, not on trunk --- Log closed Tue Dec 28 00:00:46 2004