T2 IRC Log: 2005-02-04
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--- Log opened Fri Feb 04 00:00:48 2005
00:01 < CIA-8> rene * r5966 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pivot-root.patch: * added pivot_root to x86 and arm dynamic unified syscall
00:02 < CIA-8> rene * r5967 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/sincostan.patch:
00:02 < CIA-8> * added more stuff to the sincostan.patch for dietlibc (still stubs)
00:02 < CIA-8> and fixed it for x86
00:02 < mnemoc> i'll revert my svn rm then
00:03 < CIA-8> rene * r5968 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (libm.patch sincostan.patch):
00:03 < CIA-8> * renamed the sincostan.patch of dietlibc to libm.patch - since it now
00:03 < CIA-8> includes more than just sin, cos and tan
00:03 < rxr> yes ;-)
00:03 < rxr> == 02/04/05 00:01:40 =[9]=> Finished building package dietlibc.
00:03 < rxr> ^- x86 native ...
00:04 < mnemoc> :)
00:05 < CIA-8> rene * r5969 /trunk/target/psion-pda/config.in: * enabled the psion-pda target to utilize the dynamic dietlibc variant
00:07 < rxr> jsaw: so far dietlibc only support dynamic linking on arm, i386 and x86_64
00:08 < mnemoc> our dietlibc or dietlibc itself
00:08 < rxr> itself
00:09 < mnemoc> :(
00:09 < rxr> might be easy to add
00:09 < rxr> I place implementing powerpc support high on my 4fun list
00:09 < mnemoc> you seem to have lot to stuff to send to fefe
00:09 < rxr> which means in my current mood I might do it next week
00:10 < rxr> the libm stuff are just stubs - and need to be filled
00:10 < rxr> so far I found no neat ieee C math code on the net so ...
00:10 < mnemoc> you will have to code your own
00:10 < rxr> I still wait for the first applicaton on my PDA to thow one of this "cyz not there yet" messages to me ...
00:10 < _Ragnar_> huh?
00:10 < _Ragnar_> only _dynamic_? how come?
00:10 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ?
00:11 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: the rest only static, those static+dynamic
00:11 < _Ragnar_> I'd think static linking is way easier to accomplish
00:11 < _Ragnar_> ooooh
00:11 < _Ragnar_> duh sorry I totally misunderstood
00:11 < rxr> yes - this is why dietlibc only supported static in the beginning ...
00:11 < rxr> and now dynamic for 3 of the many supported ones
00:11 < mnemoc> our pseudo-english is not ready for native speakers :)
00:12 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
00:12 * _Ragnar_ isn't a native speaker
00:12 < CIA-8> rene * r5970 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf:
00:12 < CIA-8> * nicer "build dynamic?" conditional for the dietlib.conf and added
00:12 < CIA-8> x86_64 to it ... (of course untested)
00:12 < rxr> so - seems to be a good time to start a more normal build again ...
00:13 < jsaw> ok, so that also the slow understand it... dietlibc used to be static only, and now for a few platforms it's only dynamic..?
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: where are you from?
00:13 < rxr> not this embedded 1.2MB kernel + 700kB user-space PDA thingy
00:13 < _Ragnar_> germany
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :\
00:13 < rxr> jsaw: ack
00:13 < _Ragnar_> =)
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i thought your were yankie, that's why i asked you about 'to be fly'
00:13 < rxr> jsaw: dyn only on the 3 I quoted above ...
00:13 < _Ragnar_> ;)
00:14 < rxr> mnemoc: but _Ragnar_ appears to work (or so) in the US right now ...
00:14 * _Ragnar_ nods
00:14 < mnemoc> aha... i wasn't too lost
00:14 < _Ragnar_> =)
00:16 < jsaw> rxr: ic
00:17 < jsaw> hehe: http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/literatur/0,1518,grossbild-432564-339957,00.html
00:28 < rxr> so - next SDE PR mail sent *g*
00:44 < CIA-8> rene * r5971 /trunk/package/arm/linux24-psionw/linux24-psionw.desc: * added one more [AUTHOR] tag to the linux24-psionw.desc
00:46 < rxr> mnemoc: is the bootdisk target building fine again on your side ?
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01:38 < CIA-8> rene * r5972 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/graphic/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
01:38 < CIA-8> * added lcms (1.14) to fix libmng build (the last major major update
01:38 < CIA-8> does not seem to be tested)
01:38 < CIA-8> * fixed libmng (1.0.9) to actually build
01:41 < CIA-8> rene * r5973 /trunk/package/graphic/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
01:41 < CIA-8> * merged r5972 from tags/2.1.0-beta3 into trunk: added lcms for libmng
01:41 < CIA-8> and fixed libmng
01:41 * rxr in bed - n8 all
01:45 < jsaw> g'night rxr
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02:03 < mnemoc> re
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02:23 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5974 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/fix_shares_00dirtree.patch:
02:23 < CIA-8> * Do not remove files from /usr/include for disabled features,
02:23 < CIA-8> don't copy them in the first place.
02:24 < mnemoc> uhm?
02:26 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it seems that wasn't as hard as i look on the first time :)
02:27 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
02:28 < _Ragnar_> not at all
02:30 < mnemoc> will you sent it upstream?
02:35 < _Ragnar_> to the uclibc author?
02:41 < mnemoc> yep
02:43 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5975 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/emacs-uclibc.patch: Make emacs work with uclibc.
02:44 < _Ragnar_> how do I quit emacs?:)
02:44 < mnemoc> no idea :D
02:44 < mnemoc> :x ?
02:44 < mnemoc> :p
02:45 < mnemoc> i couldn't ever run emacs
02:45 < mnemoc> s/run/use/
02:45 < mnemoc> uff... i'm sleepy
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02:45 < jsaw> C-x C-c
02:45 < _Ragnar_> oh
02:46 < mnemoc> C=Ctrl?
02:46 < jsaw> yep
02:46 < _Ragnar_> thx;) just as I had killall emacs
02:46 < _Ragnar_> :)
02:46 < mnemoc> :)
02:46 < _Ragnar_> but it seems to work
02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: i have never read 'confinement' before
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02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: in spanish to be 'confined' means something similar to jailed
02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: or 'restricted'
02:51 < jsaw> yes
02:52 < jsaw> confinement is exactly this...
02:52 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5976 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/add-dns-skipname.patch:
02:52 < CIA-8> Copy skipname functions over from bind, which some packages need,
02:52 < CIA-8> and since quite a lot of the resolver code is already copied from bind, ...
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02:53 < _Ragnar_> oops :p messed up the formatting
02:53 * _Ragnar_ slaps himself
02:53 < mnemoc> rxr will kill you
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02:54 < jsaw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confinement
02:54 < mnemoc> *click*
02:55 < mnemoc> http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=confinement
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03:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: feel free to add yourself as [M] to uclibc package ;)
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03:15 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5977 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (5 files):
03:15 < CIA-8> * Fix some more packages to build with uclibc
03:15 < CIA-8> qt uic isn't working right now, needs further investigation
03:23 < _Ragnar_> what does: svn: Can't read directory '': Address family not supported by protocol <- mean
03:24 < mnemoc> o_O
03:24 < mnemoc> /join #svn
--- Log closed Fri Feb 04 08:38:15 2005
--- Log opened Fri Feb 04 08:39:30 2005
08:53 < CIA-8> rene * r5978 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
08:53 < CIA-8> * fixed my dietlibc improvement to use -dietlibc instead of -gnulibc1
08:53 < CIA-8> since I now see some packages use -gnu*. So we now use -gnudietlibc
08:53 < CIA-8> which seems to help those.
09:08 < rxr> First Program Executed on L4 Port of GNU/HURD
09:08 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/articles/05/02/04/028220.shtml
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09:20 < mtr> moin
09:24 < mtr> rxr, you've already fixed this ncurses thing, so any old error logs from my build are useless
09:24 < rxr> I hope it is fixed for everyone ;-)
09:24 < rxr> if you get a new error feel free to bug me ;-)
09:24 < mtr> yes, - i know i am nerving - there is still one point i do not understand
09:25 < mtr> the cross-patch is applied for all stages now, even in a native build stage 3/9 ?
09:28 < rxr> yes - should not hurd
09:28 < rxr> it is only to build some tiny generator program ...
09:29 < mtr> ok, it is working now
09:30 < mtr> i had two problems with my -beta desktop build
09:30 < mtr> first: bluefish has shared files with shared-mime-info
09:32 < mtr> bluefish install calls update-mime-database which touches all files in /usr/share/mime
09:32 < mtr> is it ok to patch the makefile and skip this update-mime-database?
09:32 < rxr> yes
09:33 < mtr> then i will commit the patch
09:33 < mtr> second issue: some gnome apps suffer from missing icons ;)
09:34 < mtr> there is something wrong the icon pathes, mixed up /usr/share and /opt/gnome2/share or something
09:35 < mtr> for example evolution expects - or searches - in /usr/share/icons
09:36 < mtr> so i copied them over from /opt/gnome2/share/icons, and voila it works
09:37 < rxr> hm - strange
09:37 < rxr> what prefix is evolution using? it is installed into /opt/gnome2 ?
09:38 < mtr> yes
09:39 < rxr> I would call this an evolution bug then ...
09:40 < rxr> maybe hardcoded path somewhere ..
09:40 < mtr> yes, may be, i will check this, i did not notice this failure for other apps
09:46 < CIA-8> mtr * r5979 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluefish/shared-mime-files.patch: * avoid shared files with shared-mime-info
09:57 < _Ragnar__> goodnight folks
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10:00 < rxr> c8 _Ragnar_
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10:42 < rxr> so - commercial Hurd news article written *g*
10:52 < daja77> huh?
10:54 < rxr> you know - this money earning thing to pay bills ...
10:54 < rxr> stuff like:
10:54 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/showhigh2.php?file=/0502/36090.html
10:54 < rxr> moin daja77
10:55 < daja77> i know what commercial means, just wondering why hurd
10:56 < rxr> because hurd now starts to run on L4 ... see above ...
10:57 < daja77> the above link points to an article about lsb
10:58 < CIA-8> rene * r5980 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/ (develop/mono/gcc34-powerpc.patch x11/rivatv/rivatv.desc):
10:58 < CIA-8> * fixed mono for powerpc
10:58 < CIA-8> * marked rivatv as x86 only
10:58 < rxr> yes - because the hurd one will show up in some minutes / hours ...
10:58 < daja77> ah ok
10:58 < rxr> I just wanted to point you to "what's up" ... ;-)
10:58 < daja77> hehe
10:58 < rxr> I can hand you the hurd link as soon as it got online ...
11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r5981 /trunk/package/ (develop/mono/gcc34-powerpc.patch x11/rivatv/rivatv.desc):
11:01 < CIA-8> * merged r5980 from tags/2.1.0-beta3: fixed mono for powerpc and marked
11:01 < CIA-8> rivetv as x86 only
11:01 < daja77> ok
11:01 < rxr> daja77: did you monitor t2 progress? You might be amazed ...
11:02 < daja77> no i didn't
11:03 < rxr> like bugfixes, cleanups, stability, up-to-date-ness, and amazing uclibc and dietlibc work ...
11:04 < daja77> i was out of development for 3 weeks ...
11:04 < daja77> damn exams
11:05 < rxr> yeah - know that ...
11:06 < daja77> and before i was hacking on livecd stuff
11:06 < CIA-8> rene * r5982 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/gnome2/bluefish/shared-mime-files.patch: * merged r5979 from trunk: fixed bluefish shared files
11:09 < CIA-8> rene * r5983 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.6.1 -> 2.6.2)
11:16 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0502/36103.html
11:18 < daja77> nice
11:18 < rxr> so /me finally showering - tea and so on ...
11:19 * rxr quite curious what my µC exam results will be to be get back this afternoon *g*
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11:51 < rxr> f*cking latex crap
11:51 < rxr> forgot it does not like utf8 - crap
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12:28 < rxr> Error logs from bootdisk-2.1.0-beta4-x86-bootdisk:
12:28 < rxr> 165 builds total, 165 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:02 < rxr> mnemoc: again pharmacy and co links on the wiki ..
13:02 < rxr> could you expose her / his IP again please ?
13:03 < rxr> we should track him / her and ...
13:10 < rxr> so - I added a warning now:
13:10 < rxr> Warning:
13:10 < rxr> Write access to the wiki is logged! Whoever adds illegal content or links to such as well as advertising links will be tracked and sued! - The T2 Project
13:11 < daja77> rxr: blindy added some spam protection to the rockdoc wiki, no idea how that works
13:12 < rxr> http://wiki.t2-project.org/
13:13 < daja77> what wiki sw is that
13:13 < rxr> no idea ;-)
13:13 < rxr> mnemoc runs it ...
13:13 < rxr> some tiny perl svn based wiki ...
13:13 < rxr> kwiki or so ?
13:13 < daja77> subwiki?
13:14 < daja77> kwiki wasn't svn based iirc
13:14 < daja77> hehe using the kde icons
13:14 < rxr> well - ok the stuff mnemoc runs is optionally svn based
13:14 < daja77> hehe
13:15 < rxr> Kwiki Search -
13:15 < rxr> Kwiki
13:15 < rxr> may the source be with your ,-)
13:15 < daja77> ^^
13:16 < daja77> k k
13:16 < rxr> so /me shortly off to uni to get an exam back - hopefully ...
13:16 < daja77> cu
13:17 < rxr> daja77: and remeber to run diff rock t2 before you barely recognize antything at all *g*
13:17 < daja77> yeah that's frightening
13:18 < rxr> our progress ?
13:18 < daja77> the diff
13:18 < rxr> you know this one:
13:18 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
13:19 < rxr> off - cu
13:19 < daja77> no but commit numbers are not alone documenting progress
13:19 < daja77> anyway ;)
13:21 < rxr> sure not
13:54 < mnemoc> re
13:55 < mnemoc> rxr: <_Ragnar_> what does: svn: Can't read directory '': Address family not supported by protocol <- mean
13:56 < mnemoc> rxr: 1-bootdisk still failing here due to the same errors
13:56 < mnemoc> daja77: kwiki has SVK support which gives svn backend finally
14:24 < rxr> re
14:25 < mnemoc> re rxr
14:37 < daja77> it means that your svn is lacking support for that protocol you are trying to use
14:39 < mnemoc> Address family?
14:40 < rxr> mnemoc: please post the IP from this guy who added pharmacy junk to the wiki - thanks
14:40 < mnemoc> ok
15:31 < rxr> re
15:32 < mnemoc> i'll do a branch to try to get linux-2.6.11 working as kernel and header
15:32 < mnemoc> should i branch the whole tree or only the pacakges
15:32 < rxr> wohle tree always
15:32 < mnemoc> ok
15:32 < rxr> and only do fixes - no other commites ...
15:33 < mnemoc> sure
15:33 < rxr> nice piv over there ;-)
15:34 < mnemoc> update both packages, fix patches and add necesario __KERNEL__ patches to be able to build at least a minimal
15:34 < rxr> oehm - a desktop biuld be better
15:34 < rxr> some multimedia stuff inlucdes atmoic or device stuff, too
15:35 < rxr> but at least a minimal, yes
15:35 < rxr> the rest might be done via community patching in trunk
15:35 < mnemoc> i don't know if i have enough HD
15:36 < rxr> ok
15:36 < rxr> as noted a minimal might be enough for the start ...
15:36 < rxr> is .11 out ?
15:36 < mnemoc> or maybe i have....
15:36 < mnemoc> rxr: -rc3 but .11 will be nice for beta4
15:37 < rxr> yep
15:37 < rxr> just wanted to make sure I did not miss anything
15:37 < mnemoc> :)
15:38 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, please don't run more than one build on that machine :)
15:39 < rxr> why ?
15:39 < mnemoc> it's the mailserver of a customer :p
15:40 < mnemoc> and their router too
15:40 < mnemoc> so they 'notice' the build of... glibc for example
15:40 < rxr> so a killall perl and bincimap will do ...
15:40 < mnemoc> =)
15:40 < rxr> nice -n16 ... ?
15:41 < mnemoc> i trust your choice
15:41 < rxr> 88.4% idle ...
15:42 < rxr> ls -F is nice
15:42 < rxr> maybe we could make it a T2 default ?
15:44 < rxr> interesting error you have no that box ...
15:47 < rxr> why did you reconfigure all your programs
15:47 < rxr> I barely recognize anything *g*
15:47 < rxr> l vi ...
15:48 < mnemoc> what did i reconfigured?
15:48 < rxr> at least -F on ls - and vi - is well - line numbering and - ...
15:48 < rxr> everything is so uncommon *g*
15:48 < mnemoc> :)
15:48 < rxr> but it's cool - did not know -F before
15:49 < mnemoc> i use 'l' alias
15:49 * rxr too
15:49 < rxr> defaults to ls -l in ROCK / T2
15:49 < mnemoc> alias l='ls -alFv' <--- i prefer this
15:49 < mnemoc> :)
15:49 < rxr> yeah - saw it ...
15:50 < rxr> read above - -F default in t2 ?
15:50 < mnemoc> why not
15:50 < rxr> maybe dietlibc on your box is a PARALLEL issue ?
15:51 < mnemoc> i didn't tryed that
15:57 < rxr> again smap on our list ...
15:57 < rxr> I need to setup a newer spamassasin ...
--- Log closed Fri Feb 04 17:40:47 2005
00:01 < CIA-8> rene * r5966 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pivot-root.patch: * added pivot_root to x86 and arm dynamic unified syscall
00:02 < CIA-8> rene * r5967 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/sincostan.patch:
00:02 < CIA-8> * added more stuff to the sincostan.patch for dietlibc (still stubs)
00:02 < CIA-8> and fixed it for x86
00:02 < mnemoc> i'll revert my svn rm then
00:03 < CIA-8> rene * r5968 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (libm.patch sincostan.patch):
00:03 < CIA-8> * renamed the sincostan.patch of dietlibc to libm.patch - since it now
00:03 < CIA-8> includes more than just sin, cos and tan
00:03 < rxr> yes ;-)
00:03 < rxr> == 02/04/05 00:01:40 =[9]=> Finished building package dietlibc.
00:03 < rxr> ^- x86 native ...
00:04 < mnemoc> :)
00:05 < CIA-8> rene * r5969 /trunk/target/psion-pda/config.in: * enabled the psion-pda target to utilize the dynamic dietlibc variant
00:07 < rxr> jsaw: so far dietlibc only support dynamic linking on arm, i386 and x86_64
00:08 < mnemoc> our dietlibc or dietlibc itself
00:08 < rxr> itself
00:09 < mnemoc> :(
00:09 < rxr> might be easy to add
00:09 < rxr> I place implementing powerpc support high on my 4fun list
00:09 < mnemoc> you seem to have lot to stuff to send to fefe
00:09 < rxr> which means in my current mood I might do it next week
00:10 < rxr> the libm stuff are just stubs - and need to be filled
00:10 < rxr> so far I found no neat ieee C math code on the net so ...
00:10 < mnemoc> you will have to code your own
00:10 < rxr> I still wait for the first applicaton on my PDA to thow one of this "cyz not there yet" messages to me ...
00:10 < _Ragnar_> huh?
00:10 < _Ragnar_> only _dynamic_? how come?
00:10 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ?
00:11 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: the rest only static, those static+dynamic
00:11 < _Ragnar_> I'd think static linking is way easier to accomplish
00:11 < _Ragnar_> ooooh
00:11 < _Ragnar_> duh sorry I totally misunderstood
00:11 < rxr> yes - this is why dietlibc only supported static in the beginning ...
00:11 < rxr> and now dynamic for 3 of the many supported ones
00:11 < mnemoc> our pseudo-english is not ready for native speakers :)
00:12 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
00:12 * _Ragnar_ isn't a native speaker
00:12 < CIA-8> rene * r5970 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf:
00:12 < CIA-8> * nicer "build dynamic?" conditional for the dietlib.conf and added
00:12 < CIA-8> x86_64 to it ... (of course untested)
00:12 < rxr> so - seems to be a good time to start a more normal build again ...
00:13 < jsaw> ok, so that also the slow understand it... dietlibc used to be static only, and now for a few platforms it's only dynamic..?
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: where are you from?
00:13 < rxr> not this embedded 1.2MB kernel + 700kB user-space PDA thingy
00:13 < _Ragnar_> germany
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :\
00:13 < rxr> jsaw: ack
00:13 < _Ragnar_> =)
00:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i thought your were yankie, that's why i asked you about 'to be fly'
00:13 < rxr> jsaw: dyn only on the 3 I quoted above ...
00:13 < _Ragnar_> ;)
00:14 < rxr> mnemoc: but _Ragnar_ appears to work (or so) in the US right now ...
00:14 * _Ragnar_ nods
00:14 < mnemoc> aha... i wasn't too lost
00:14 < _Ragnar_> =)
00:16 < jsaw> rxr: ic
00:17 < jsaw> hehe: http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/literatur/0,1518,grossbild-432564-339957,00.html
00:28 < rxr> so - next SDE PR mail sent *g*
00:44 < CIA-8> rene * r5971 /trunk/package/arm/linux24-psionw/linux24-psionw.desc: * added one more [AUTHOR] tag to the linux24-psionw.desc
00:46 < rxr> mnemoc: is the bootdisk target building fine again on your side ?
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01:38 < CIA-8> rene * r5972 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/graphic/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
01:38 < CIA-8> * added lcms (1.14) to fix libmng build (the last major major update
01:38 < CIA-8> does not seem to be tested)
01:38 < CIA-8> * fixed libmng (1.0.9) to actually build
01:41 < CIA-8> rene * r5973 /trunk/package/graphic/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
01:41 < CIA-8> * merged r5972 from tags/2.1.0-beta3 into trunk: added lcms for libmng
01:41 < CIA-8> and fixed libmng
01:41 * rxr in bed - n8 all
01:45 < jsaw> g'night rxr
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02:03 < mnemoc> re
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02:23 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5974 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/fix_shares_00dirtree.patch:
02:23 < CIA-8> * Do not remove files from /usr/include for disabled features,
02:23 < CIA-8> don't copy them in the first place.
02:24 < mnemoc> uhm?
02:26 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it seems that wasn't as hard as i look on the first time :)
02:27 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
02:28 < _Ragnar_> not at all
02:30 < mnemoc> will you sent it upstream?
02:35 < _Ragnar_> to the uclibc author?
02:41 < mnemoc> yep
02:43 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5975 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/emacs-uclibc.patch: Make emacs work with uclibc.
02:44 < _Ragnar_> how do I quit emacs?:)
02:44 < mnemoc> no idea :D
02:44 < mnemoc> :x ?
02:44 < mnemoc> :p
02:45 < mnemoc> i couldn't ever run emacs
02:45 < mnemoc> s/run/use/
02:45 < mnemoc> uff... i'm sleepy
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02:45 < jsaw> C-x C-c
02:45 < _Ragnar_> oh
02:46 < mnemoc> C=Ctrl?
02:46 < jsaw> yep
02:46 < _Ragnar_> thx;) just as I had killall emacs
02:46 < _Ragnar_> :)
02:46 < mnemoc> :)
02:46 < _Ragnar_> but it seems to work
02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: i have never read 'confinement' before
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02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: in spanish to be 'confined' means something similar to jailed
02:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: or 'restricted'
02:51 < jsaw> yes
02:52 < jsaw> confinement is exactly this...
02:52 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5976 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/add-dns-skipname.patch:
02:52 < CIA-8> Copy skipname functions over from bind, which some packages need,
02:52 < CIA-8> and since quite a lot of the resolver code is already copied from bind, ...
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02:53 < _Ragnar_> oops :p messed up the formatting
02:53 * _Ragnar_ slaps himself
02:53 < mnemoc> rxr will kill you
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02:54 < jsaw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confinement
02:54 < mnemoc> *click*
02:55 < mnemoc> http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=confinement
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03:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: feel free to add yourself as [M] to uclibc package ;)
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03:15 < CIA-8> ragnar * r5977 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (5 files):
03:15 < CIA-8> * Fix some more packages to build with uclibc
03:15 < CIA-8> qt uic isn't working right now, needs further investigation
03:23 < _Ragnar_> what does: svn: Can't read directory '': Address family not supported by protocol <- mean
03:24 < mnemoc> o_O
03:24 < mnemoc> /join #svn
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--- Log opened Fri Feb 04 08:39:30 2005
08:53 < CIA-8> rene * r5978 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9:
08:53 < CIA-8> * fixed my dietlibc improvement to use -dietlibc instead of -gnulibc1
08:53 < CIA-8> since I now see some packages use -gnu*. So we now use -gnudietlibc
08:53 < CIA-8> which seems to help those.
09:08 < rxr> First Program Executed on L4 Port of GNU/HURD
09:08 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/articles/05/02/04/028220.shtml
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09:20 < mtr> moin
09:24 < mtr> rxr, you've already fixed this ncurses thing, so any old error logs from my build are useless
09:24 < rxr> I hope it is fixed for everyone ;-)
09:24 < rxr> if you get a new error feel free to bug me ;-)
09:24 < mtr> yes, - i know i am nerving - there is still one point i do not understand
09:25 < mtr> the cross-patch is applied for all stages now, even in a native build stage 3/9 ?
09:28 < rxr> yes - should not hurd
09:28 < rxr> it is only to build some tiny generator program ...
09:29 < mtr> ok, it is working now
09:30 < mtr> i had two problems with my -beta desktop build
09:30 < mtr> first: bluefish has shared files with shared-mime-info
09:32 < mtr> bluefish install calls update-mime-database which touches all files in /usr/share/mime
09:32 < mtr> is it ok to patch the makefile and skip this update-mime-database?
09:32 < rxr> yes
09:33 < mtr> then i will commit the patch
09:33 < mtr> second issue: some gnome apps suffer from missing icons ;)
09:34 < mtr> there is something wrong the icon pathes, mixed up /usr/share and /opt/gnome2/share or something
09:35 < mtr> for example evolution expects - or searches - in /usr/share/icons
09:36 < mtr> so i copied them over from /opt/gnome2/share/icons, and voila it works
09:37 < rxr> hm - strange
09:37 < rxr> what prefix is evolution using? it is installed into /opt/gnome2 ?
09:38 < mtr> yes
09:39 < rxr> I would call this an evolution bug then ...
09:40 < rxr> maybe hardcoded path somewhere ..
09:40 < mtr> yes, may be, i will check this, i did not notice this failure for other apps
09:46 < CIA-8> mtr * r5979 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluefish/shared-mime-files.patch: * avoid shared files with shared-mime-info
09:57 < _Ragnar__> goodnight folks
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10:00 < rxr> c8 _Ragnar_
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10:42 < rxr> so - commercial Hurd news article written *g*
10:52 < daja77> huh?
10:54 < rxr> you know - this money earning thing to pay bills ...
10:54 < rxr> stuff like:
10:54 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/showhigh2.php?file=/0502/36090.html
10:54 < rxr> moin daja77
10:55 < daja77> i know what commercial means, just wondering why hurd
10:56 < rxr> because hurd now starts to run on L4 ... see above ...
10:57 < daja77> the above link points to an article about lsb
10:58 < CIA-8> rene * r5980 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/ (develop/mono/gcc34-powerpc.patch x11/rivatv/rivatv.desc):
10:58 < CIA-8> * fixed mono for powerpc
10:58 < CIA-8> * marked rivatv as x86 only
10:58 < rxr> yes - because the hurd one will show up in some minutes / hours ...
10:58 < daja77> ah ok
10:58 < rxr> I just wanted to point you to "what's up" ... ;-)
10:58 < daja77> hehe
10:58 < rxr> I can hand you the hurd link as soon as it got online ...
11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r5981 /trunk/package/ (develop/mono/gcc34-powerpc.patch x11/rivatv/rivatv.desc):
11:01 < CIA-8> * merged r5980 from tags/2.1.0-beta3: fixed mono for powerpc and marked
11:01 < CIA-8> rivetv as x86 only
11:01 < daja77> ok
11:01 < rxr> daja77: did you monitor t2 progress? You might be amazed ...
11:02 < daja77> no i didn't
11:03 < rxr> like bugfixes, cleanups, stability, up-to-date-ness, and amazing uclibc and dietlibc work ...
11:04 < daja77> i was out of development for 3 weeks ...
11:04 < daja77> damn exams
11:05 < rxr> yeah - know that ...
11:06 < daja77> and before i was hacking on livecd stuff
11:06 < CIA-8> rene * r5982 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/package/gnome2/bluefish/shared-mime-files.patch: * merged r5979 from trunk: fixed bluefish shared files
11:09 < CIA-8> rene * r5983 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.6.1 -> 2.6.2)
11:16 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0502/36103.html
11:18 < daja77> nice
11:18 < rxr> so /me finally showering - tea and so on ...
11:19 * rxr quite curious what my µC exam results will be to be get back this afternoon *g*
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11:51 < rxr> f*cking latex crap
11:51 < rxr> forgot it does not like utf8 - crap
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12:28 < rxr> Error logs from bootdisk-2.1.0-beta4-x86-bootdisk:
12:28 < rxr> 165 builds total, 165 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:02 < rxr> mnemoc: again pharmacy and co links on the wiki ..
13:02 < rxr> could you expose her / his IP again please ?
13:03 < rxr> we should track him / her and ...
13:10 < rxr> so - I added a warning now:
13:10 < rxr> Warning:
13:10 < rxr> Write access to the wiki is logged! Whoever adds illegal content or links to such as well as advertising links will be tracked and sued! - The T2 Project
13:11 < daja77> rxr: blindy added some spam protection to the rockdoc wiki, no idea how that works
13:12 < rxr> http://wiki.t2-project.org/
13:13 < daja77> what wiki sw is that
13:13 < rxr> no idea ;-)
13:13 < rxr> mnemoc runs it ...
13:13 < rxr> some tiny perl svn based wiki ...
13:13 < rxr> kwiki or so ?
13:13 < daja77> subwiki?
13:14 < daja77> kwiki wasn't svn based iirc
13:14 < daja77> hehe using the kde icons
13:14 < rxr> well - ok the stuff mnemoc runs is optionally svn based
13:14 < daja77> hehe
13:15 < rxr> Kwiki Search -
13:15 < rxr> Kwiki
13:15 < rxr> may the source be with your ,-)
13:15 < daja77> ^^
13:16 < daja77> k k
13:16 < rxr> so /me shortly off to uni to get an exam back - hopefully ...
13:16 < daja77> cu
13:17 < rxr> daja77: and remeber to run diff rock t2 before you barely recognize antything at all *g*
13:17 < daja77> yeah that's frightening
13:18 < rxr> our progress ?
13:18 < daja77> the diff
13:18 < rxr> you know this one:
13:18 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
13:19 < rxr> off - cu
13:19 < daja77> no but commit numbers are not alone documenting progress
13:19 < daja77> anyway ;)
13:21 < rxr> sure not
13:54 < mnemoc> re
13:55 < mnemoc> rxr: <_Ragnar_> what does: svn: Can't read directory '': Address family not supported by protocol <- mean
13:56 < mnemoc> rxr: 1-bootdisk still failing here due to the same errors
13:56 < mnemoc> daja77: kwiki has SVK support which gives svn backend finally
14:24 < rxr> re
14:25 < mnemoc> re rxr
14:37 < daja77> it means that your svn is lacking support for that protocol you are trying to use
14:39 < mnemoc> Address family?
14:40 < rxr> mnemoc: please post the IP from this guy who added pharmacy junk to the wiki - thanks
14:40 < mnemoc> ok
15:31 < rxr> re
15:32 < mnemoc> i'll do a branch to try to get linux-2.6.11 working as kernel and header
15:32 < mnemoc> should i branch the whole tree or only the pacakges
15:32 < rxr> wohle tree always
15:32 < mnemoc> ok
15:32 < rxr> and only do fixes - no other commites ...
15:33 < mnemoc> sure
15:33 < rxr> nice piv over there ;-)
15:34 < mnemoc> update both packages, fix patches and add necesario __KERNEL__ patches to be able to build at least a minimal
15:34 < rxr> oehm - a desktop biuld be better
15:34 < rxr> some multimedia stuff inlucdes atmoic or device stuff, too
15:35 < rxr> but at least a minimal, yes
15:35 < rxr> the rest might be done via community patching in trunk
15:35 < mnemoc> i don't know if i have enough HD
15:36 < rxr> ok
15:36 < rxr> as noted a minimal might be enough for the start ...
15:36 < rxr> is .11 out ?
15:36 < mnemoc> or maybe i have....
15:36 < mnemoc> rxr: -rc3 but .11 will be nice for beta4
15:37 < rxr> yep
15:37 < rxr> just wanted to make sure I did not miss anything
15:37 < mnemoc> :)
15:38 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, please don't run more than one build on that machine :)
15:39 < rxr> why ?
15:39 < mnemoc> it's the mailserver of a customer :p
15:40 < mnemoc> and their router too
15:40 < mnemoc> so they 'notice' the build of... glibc for example
15:40 < rxr> so a killall perl and bincimap will do ...
15:40 < mnemoc> =)
15:40 < rxr> nice -n16 ... ?
15:41 < mnemoc> i trust your choice
15:41 < rxr> 88.4% idle ...
15:42 < rxr> ls -F is nice
15:42 < rxr> maybe we could make it a T2 default ?
15:44 < rxr> interesting error you have no that box ...
15:47 < rxr> why did you reconfigure all your programs
15:47 < rxr> I barely recognize anything *g*
15:47 < rxr> l vi ...
15:48 < mnemoc> what did i reconfigured?
15:48 < rxr> at least -F on ls - and vi - is well - line numbering and - ...
15:48 < rxr> everything is so uncommon *g*
15:48 < mnemoc> :)
15:48 < rxr> but it's cool - did not know -F before
15:49 < mnemoc> i use 'l' alias
15:49 * rxr too
15:49 < rxr> defaults to ls -l in ROCK / T2
15:49 < mnemoc> alias l='ls -alFv' <--- i prefer this
15:49 < mnemoc> :)
15:49 < rxr> yeah - saw it ...
15:50 < rxr> read above - -F default in t2 ?
15:50 < mnemoc> why not
15:50 < rxr> maybe dietlibc on your box is a PARALLEL issue ?
15:51 < mnemoc> i didn't tryed that
15:57 < rxr> again smap on our list ...
15:57 < rxr> I need to setup a newer spamassasin ...
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