T2 IRC Log: 2005-02-09

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--- Log opened Wed Feb 09 00:00:28 2005
00:01 < Postal> rxr, i posted the error log in the 64bit error log section in the wiki..
00:03 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-43562131.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:03 < rxr> ouhm
00:05 < rxr> neiher the 6x11 nor the 4x6 font work with the 2.4 framebuffer subsystem and psionw driver ...
00:05 < rxr> looks like stuff for fixing ...
00:05 < rxr> but the mini 4x6 font is not really readable on the tiny 480x160 pixel display anyway ...
00:14 < CIA-8> rene * r6138 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/rocknet.sh: * silence rocknet warning about unmatched profile "default"
00:23 < mnemoc_> rxr: does it show a happy face now?
00:39 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6139 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.80 -> 0.82)
00:40 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6140 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (4.0.20 -> 4.1.9)
00:45 * mnemoc_ to home
00:46 < mnemoc_> package/e* update loop finished
01:21 < mnemoc_> re
01:25 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6141 /trunk/package/develop/ctags/ctags.desc: * updated ctags (5.5.1 -> 5.5.4)
01:25 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6142 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.35 -> 1.38)
01:27 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6143 /trunk/package/develop/libowfat/libowfat.desc: * updated libowfat (0.20 -> 0.21)
01:27 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6144 /trunk/package/extra/libusb/libusb.desc: * updated libusb (0.1.8 -> 0.1.9)
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01:42 < madtux> re
01:44 < mnemoc_> re madtux
01:44 < madtux> gracias
01:49 < mnemoc_> madtux: do you know any decent download location for cvs?
01:50 < madtux> no.
01:50 < madtux> sf.net ?
01:50 < madtux> ni idea de si lo tienen
01:51 < mnemoc_> :(
01:52 < madtux> mnemoc_, well u are the updates freak..
01:53 < madtux> let me see if i can help you my master
01:53 < mnemoc_> :)
02:00 < madtux> mnemoc_, you may not believe this but i do not see an available mirror
02:01 < mnemoc_> paste?
02:01 < madtux> do NOT.
02:01 < mnemoc_> paste?
02:02 < madtux> que no encuentro ningun @$%@#$^ mirror.
02:02 < mnemoc_> did rm download/Mirror?
02:02 < madtux> ARRGG...
02:02 < madtux> i'm talking about cvs
02:02 < mnemoc_> :p
02:03 < madtux> mnemoc_, i know you are the stable maintainer but please don't treat like if i don't a 5h17 about t2
02:03 < mnemoc_> sorry
02:04 < madtux> te estoy jodiendo la vida :P
02:04 < madtux> dinner be back soon
02:05 < mnemoc_> cu
03:09 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6145 /trunk/package/develop/dmalloc/dmalloc.desc: * updated dmalloc (5.4.0 -> 5.4.2)
03:35 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6146 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/ (4 files): * updated e2fsprogs (1.35 -> 1.36)
03:36 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6147 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * updated parted (1.6.20 -> 1.6.21)
03:37 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6148 /trunk/package/filesystem/sysfsutils/sysfsutils.desc:
03:38 < mnemoc_> dammit, no message
03:39 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6149 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (048 -> 052)
03:40 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6150 /trunk/package/contrib/rrdtool/rrdtool.desc: * updated rrdtool (1.0.46 -> 1.0.49)
03:41 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6151 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * added CV-URL to valgrind
03:59 < madtux> grrr
04:00 < madtux> autoconf broke..
04:01 < madtux> i re-start Build-Target... now it builds with no problem
04:01 < madtux> WEIRD 5h17
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05:47 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again!
05:47 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
05:47 [Users #t2]
05:47 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ madtux ] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
05:47 [ CIA-8 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ praenti] [ rxr_]
05:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
05:47 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
05:47 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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09:12 < rxr_> moin
09:14 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:17 < rxr> http://streaming.polito.it/server
09:33 < rxr> mnemoc: zsync: It uses a metafile, which must be created on the server, to determine which parts of a file the user already has; it then downloads the remaining parts via HTTP
09:48 < CIA-8> rene * r6152 /trunk/package/base/fgetty/checkpassword.patch: * fixed fgetty for non-shadow and empty (that is no) passwords
13:15 < CIA-8> rene * r6153 /trunk/package/base/embutils/mount.patch:
13:15 < CIA-8> * hardened embutils mount to not crash when the directory was not
13:15 < CIA-8> found in /etc/fstab and improved the tokenizing to strip white
13:15 < CIA-8> spaces, since /etc/fstab is often indented in tabular form
14:53 < mnemoc> rehi
14:55 < rxr> jj moin mnemoc
14:55 < rxr> how is your arm ?
14:56 < mnemoc> resting :)
14:56 < mnemoc> and you?
14:56 < rxr> ohm - fine hacking the usual things ...
14:59 < mnemoc> cinepaint: configure: error: *** openexr dev header half.h not found ***
15:00 < rxr> new cinepaint version ?
15:01 < mnemoc> 0.19-0
15:02 < rxr> local update?
15:03 < mnemoc> yep
15:03 < rxr> yep
15:03 < rxr> just looked it up, too ..
15:03 < rxr> yeah - openexr is some high qulity image editing format
15:03 < rxr> seems you hav to pull that library in now ;-)
15:04 < mnemoc> ok
15:06 < mnemoc> rxr: who depends on commonc++? i see nothing on .cache files
15:06 < rxr> no idea
15:06 < rxr> maybe nothing *g*
15:06 < rxr> (read: I do not depend on it ...)
15:06 < mnemoc> ok :)
15:07 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6154 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/ (commonc++.desc gcc34.patch): * updated commonc++ (1.0.13 -> 1.3.2)
15:07 < rxr> ouh - hehe
15:08 < mnemoc> :)
15:09 < mnemoc> no dependencies means no extra tests needed
15:09 < rxr> ack
15:11 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6155 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/ (fuse.desc no-depmod.patch): * updated fuse (1.4 -> 2.2)
15:14 < rxr> ouhm - we have a few fuse dependencies - I hope they do not break ...
15:16 < mnemoc> uhm? where?
15:17 < mnemoc> updated siefs is in my queue
15:19 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6156 /trunk/package/develop/librep/ (fix_gmp_test.patch librep.desc): * updated librep (0.16.2 -> 0.17)
15:19 < rxr> what - there is a new siefs ... *g*
15:21 < mnemoc> uhm... no only [U] relocated :\
15:21 < mnemoc> configure:2723: checking fuse installation
15:21 < mnemoc> configure:2753: result: old
15:21 < mnemoc> configure:2759: error:
15:21 < mnemoc> *** You need fuse version 1.0 or later.
15:21 < mnemoc> damn
15:21 < mnemoc> 2.2 < 1.0
15:21 < rxr> just path the version check and hope it builds ..
15:21 < rxr> if not ignore siefs ...
15:21 < rxr> I can fix it later - and the last time I tried it it crashed my in kernsl fuse part anyway ...
15:24 < mnemoc> if ! grep -q '\(\*release\)' $fuseinst/include/fuse.h ; then
15:24 < mnemoc> 43 AC_MSG_RESULT([old])
15:24 < mnemoc> what a cool test
15:25 < rxr> uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggssssssssssssss
15:25 < rxr> just patch the whole check away *g*
15:26 < mnemoc> :)
15:30 < mnemoc> Fuse::DBI ??!
15:30 < rxr> ?
15:31 < mnemoc> a perl module
15:32 < mnemoc> it sounds cool to mount a database
15:36 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6157 /trunk/package/filesystem/siefs/ (dont_test_fuse_version.patch siefs.conf siefs.desc):
15:36 < CIA-8> * fixed siefs to build against last fuse
15:36 < CIA-8> * changed siefs [U] and added [CV-URL]
15:45 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6158 /trunk/package/develop/numpy/ (lapack-config-fix.patch numpy.desc): * updated numpy (23.6 -> 23.7)
15:47 < mnemoc> rxr: are you in conditions to test new xemacs on ppc?
15:49 < mnemoc> rxr: package/editors/xemacs/ppc-oddity.patch seems to be no longer needed
15:50 < rxr> I removed it for xemacs-beta also already ..
15:51 < rxr> I'll be under linux the next minutes with my iBook - so commit the updarte ...
15:51 < mnemoc> ok
15:51 < rxr> or - what versions do you plan to change ?
15:51 < mnemoc> xemacs-21.4.17
15:51 < mnemoc> emacs-21.4
15:52 < mnemoc> xemacs-sumo-2005-01-18
15:52 < rxr> yeah - commit them ...
15:53 < mnemoc> ok
15:58 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6159 /trunk/package/editors/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
15:58 < CIA-8> * updated emacs (21.3 -> 21.4)
15:58 < CIA-8> * updated xemacs (21.4.15 -> 21.4.17)
15:58 < CIA-8> * updated xemacs-packages (2004-08-18 -> 2005-01-18)
16:05 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6160 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-appserver/gnue-appserver.desc: * updated gnue-appserver (0.3.99-beta1 -> 0.4.0)
16:10 < mnemoc> 1409 builds total, 530 completed fine, 9 with errors.
16:15 < rxr> what are the errors ß
16:15 < mnemoc> [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24
16:15 < mnemoc> [5] archiver/mine [5] printing/lprng
16:15 < mnemoc> [5] emulators/hercules [5] graphic/openexr
16:15 < mnemoc> [5] graphic/cinepaint [5] network/nessus
16:15 < mnemoc> [5] network/xmule [5] e17/efsd
16:16 < rxr> you can rm xmule we have this amule now, no ?
16:16 < rxr> yep - svn rm xmule
16:16 < mnemoc> sure? xmule still alive and rewriting to be last-wx compatible
16:17 < rxr> or then mark the priority O ...
16:18 < mnemoc> ok
16:20 < rxr> mnemoc: do you have bk installed=
16:20 < rxr> ? even
16:20 < rxr> (bk as in bit keeper)
16:20 < mnemoc> nope
16:20 < rxr> jsaw: do you have bk installed ? *g*
16:20 < rxr> I need someone to check out some diffs ...
16:22 < mnemoc> jsaw: how are your daughter_s_ and wife?
16:23 < mnemoc> http://www.openexr.com/samples.html <--- cool!
16:27 < mnemoc> .oO( we need package locking )o
16:29 < mnemoc> == 02/09/05 12:28:30 =[5]=> Finished building package openexr
16:30 < rxr> lokcing ?
16:30 < rxr> locking even ?
16:31 < mnemoc> safe run on too Build-Target in parallel
16:32 < mnemoc> Build-Target -job 5-openexr while Build-Target is running
16:32 < mnemoc> Build-Target flagged openexr as broken, i fixed it and start Build-Target -job 5-openexr
16:32 < rxr> ah - the tools build locking on my todo ... ?
16:33 < mnemoc> Build-Target saw openexr as .out, removed it and start building it
16:33 < mnemoc> package locking :)
16:34 < mnemoc> cinepaint: psd.c:468: error: conflicting types for 'psd_type_to_gimp_type' <--- any tip?
16:35 < rxr> implicit declaration ?
16:35 < rxr> copy the prototype to the beginning of the file
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16:42 < madtux> hello.
16:42 < mnemoc> madtux!
16:43 < madtux> mnemoc!
16:47 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6161 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * changed sqlite [U] and added [CV-URL]
16:48 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6162 /trunk/package/develop/libmhash/libmhash.desc: * updated libmhash (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
16:49 < mnemoc> == 02/09/05 12:48:13 =[5]=> Finished building package cinepaint.
16:56 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6163 /trunk/package/graphic/openexr/ (. openexr.desc): * added openexr (1.2.1)
16:57 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6164 /trunk/package/graphic/cinepaint/ (cinepaint.desc gcc34.patch): * updated cinepaint (0.18-3 -> 0.19-0)
17:03 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6165 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.6.1 -> 2.6.2)
17:10 < rxr> mnemoc: I can no longer look at our stats ...
17:10 < mnemoc> what stats?
17:11 < madtux> irc stats?
17:11 < madtux> cia stats?
17:11 < rxr> no - code stats ..
17:11 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
17:11 < mnemoc> uhm?
17:12 < mnemoc> what happened to rock's line?
17:13 < rxr> no commits ...
17:13 < rxr> or their svn:// is down ...
17:13 < rxr> r5557 | clifford | 2005-01-26 17:36:00 +0100 (Wed, 26 Jan 2005) | 1 line
17:13 < rxr> added missing cksums
17:13 < rxr> Revision 5557:
17:13 < rxr> hm - this matches ...
17:14 < rxr> 2005-01-26 17:36:00 +0100 (Wed, 26 Jan 2005) <- is their head
17:14 < rxr> no problem in the graph generator
17:15 < mnemoc> the two-weeks average line is on 0?
17:15 < rxr> no
17:15 < rxr> I have no data point
17:15 < rxr> the graph is only render up to the last data point
17:15 < mnemoc> ic
17:16 < rxr> I already thought about filling it up with zeors ... - but thought it is not critical
17:16 < mnemoc> :)
17:16 < mnemoc> that 30 avg is nice
17:16 < rxr> our - you triggered ?
17:17 < rxr> s/our/ours/
17:17 < daja77> when not everybody is hacking his stuff in svn, what's the benefit of comparing svn commit stats
17:18 < mnemoc> we don't compare quality or work, just development style
17:18 < rxr> daja77: the ammount of changes is the same
17:18 < daja77> O_o
17:18 < rxr> roughtly even
17:19 < daja77> yes
17:19 < rxr> when the submaster stuff is flushed the changes go in, so ... ?
17:19 < rxr> what is your point
17:19 < daja77> it reads like you are trying to say, nothing happened since the last commit
17:20 < mnemoc> nothing has been commited, updates and fix get stalled
17:20 < rxr> no - it reads like I checked that the grapher is is at the rocklinux.net trunk:HEAD
17:20 < rxr> and submaster is not that full ...
17:21 < daja77> ic
17:23 < rxr> daja77: I mean you started this discussion right now here - but I think it quite shows how svn changes do not only speed up security and bugfixing - but also encourage people to actually work on the project - not such a huge barrier - convieniet use and so on ...
17:23 < rxr> and how decentralization does not stall a project when the master in chei
17:23 < rxr> D
17:24 < rxr> ief is busy ...
17:24 < rxr> (or whatever)
17:24 < madtux> i would rather use mandrake on my servers than work again with submaster
17:24 < rxr> *lol*
17:24 < rxr> madtux: please smap the change 20050112323i57z34895274390587 and test it *g*
17:25 < madtux> you got it!
17:25 < rxr> madtux: oh - yeah - the bug is already fixed for 13 days - just pull 200434429384723956734875 *g*
17:25 * rxr back to work
17:26 < mnemoc> i like the voting idea, but cliff takes too long to apply
17:26 < rxr> any person takes to long to apply
17:26 < mnemoc> == 02/09/05 13:25:51 =[5]=> Finished building package mine. <--- dialog-1.0 :D
17:26 < rxr> consider sleep cycles, illness holidays
17:26 < rxr> this is just no open project at all ...
17:26 < madtux> lazyness holidays?
17:27 < rxr> + wasted time for the one that just need to clikc the apply button the whole day ...
17:27 < mnemoc> it's a different openness-policy, many open projects don't even have a repository to _read_
17:27 < rxr> but - well - I do not have to care any longer
17:27 < rxr> yeah - and no repository at all (bash *g*)
17:28 < mnemoc> :)
17:28 < mnemoc> rock is more open than bash or readline
17:28 < mnemoc> and it's more democratic than glibc :)
17:28 < rxr> well - ok- but who wants to compare whith that crap anyways ...
17:28 < rxr> ouhm - atusch
17:29 < rxr> autsch even ...
17:29 < mnemoc> .oO( me wonders about commiting dialog update and mine fix )o
17:30 < rxr> have you fixed mine ?
17:30 < mnemoc> it builds
17:30 < madtux> why would he fix yours?
17:30 * madtux hides
17:30 < mnemoc> :(
17:32 * mnemoc going to bank to try to fix his real 'mine'
17:32 < rxr> ?
17:32 < mnemoc> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-beta4-x86-generic-expert:
17:32 < mnemoc> [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24
17:32 < mnemoc> [5] printing/lprng [5] emulators/hercules
17:32 < mnemoc> [5] network/nessus [5] e17/efsd
17:32 < mnemoc> [5] develop/avrdude
17:32 < mnemoc> 1409 builds total, 541 completed fine, 7 with errors.
17:33 < mnemoc> the account were i grab resources
17:33 < mnemoc> where*
17:33 < madtux> mnemoc: i noticed the linux* building but breaking because no binary file can be created
17:34 < mnemoc> i have to go, bbl
17:34 < madtux> arrg
18:01 < rxr> Beta 2 des Unix/Linux-Desktops KDE 3.4 liegt vor
18:01 < madtux> and ur mama too
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18:02 < madtux> nah... seriously what does that mean rxr?
18:02 < madtux> kensai: hello
18:03 < kensai> madtux hi
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18:14 < daja77> madtux: beta 2 of kde 3.4 is out
18:16 < mnemoc> re
18:35 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6166 /trunk/package/develop/uisp/uisp.desc: * updated uisp (20040311 -> 20050207)
18:51 < mnemoc> ar rv libiptc/libiptc.a libiptc/libip4tc.o
18:51 < mnemoc> ar rv libiptc/libiptc.a libiptc/libip6tc.o
18:51 < mnemoc> ar: creating libiptc/libiptc.a
18:51 < mnemoc> ar: creating libiptc/libiptc.a
18:51 < mnemoc> does that work?
18:51 < mnemoc> on a make -j enviroment
19:05 < rxr> ?
19:05 < rxr> details please
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19:21 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:33 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
19:33 < _Ragnar_> moin rxr
19:33 < _Ragnar_> how goes?
19:36 * rxr kicking the old inkjet ...
19:47 < mnemoc> rxr: iptables builds with NOPARALLEl
19:49 < rxr> ok
20:01 * mnemoc wonders how to fix this parallel call to AR over the same file
20:02 < rxr> this should not be the problem
20:02 < rxr> the problem of parallel builds is usually when stuff depends on files that are not listed as dependency in the build rule
20:02 < rxr> the prerequisits ...
20:03 < mnemoc> see what i pasted
20:03 < rxr> for normal builds it might work - but when make builds a dependency graph and build prerequisits are missing you get a boom ...
20:03 < mnemoc> the second ar i called when the first haven't finisehd
20:03 < rxr> the pasted stuff is ok
20:03 < mnemoc> is ar 'thread-safe'?
20:04 < rxr> they create different files from the same file ...
20:04 < rxr> that is no problem
20:04 < mnemoc> no no
20:04 < mnemoc> is the other way
20:04 < rxr> hm - well ok
20:04 < rxr> but make should not run them in parallel anyway
20:04 < rxr> can't you write it as one line anyway?
20:05 < mnemoc> final .a only have ip6 stuff
20:05 < mnemoc> libiptc/libiptc.a: libiptc/libiptc.a(libiptc/libip4tc.o)
20:05 < mnemoc> libiptc/libiptc.a: libiptc/libiptc.a(libiptc/libip6tc.o)
20:05 < mnemoc> i don't understand that syntax :\
20:06 < rxr> what about:
20:06 < rxr> ar rv libiptc/libiptc.a libiptc/libip4tc.o libiptc/libip6tc.o
20:06 < rxr> ?
20:06 < rxr> altough I tink that should not be the problem at all
20:07 < mnemoc> yes, but i can't find where it's done on Makefile
20:07 < mnemoc> brb
20:08 < rxr> mnemoc: emacs and xemacs built and run on powerpc
20:13 < rxr> mnemoc: ic - iptables is very PARALLEL _unaware_
20:13 < rxr> forget fixing it
20:13 < rxr> mark it NOPARALLEL
20:14 < rxr> or I do quickly ...
20:46 < jsaw> hi all
20:47 < jsaw> no (baby) news yet
20:47 < jsaw> rxr: no bk here
20:48 < rxr> hi jsaw
20:48 < jsaw> hi rxr
20:48 * rxr considering writing this Larry McVoy and ask to send me the patch ;-)
20:49 * rxr rebooting
20:49 < jsaw> there should be a gateway for cvs
20:52 < rxr> not for all
20:52 < rxr> mostly only for the main kernel ...
20:52 < rxr> nor for any hosted repository
21:09 < mnemoc> re
21:18 < _Ragnar_> cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage <- ?????
21:18 < _Ragnar_> (build of generic with default options)
21:18 < rxr> ???
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21:18 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
21:18 [Users #t2]
21:18 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ valentin]
21:18 [ CIA-8 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr ]
21:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
21:18 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
21:18 < rxr> in which package? or where else is that ?
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21:19 < mnemoc> daja77: uhm?
21:19 < daja77> ghostscript
21:19 < mnemoc> ghostscript-fonts (6.0 -> 8.11)
21:20 < daja77> there is a matching ghostscript package, no?
21:20 < _Ragnar_> after building 1-sysfiles
21:20 < rxr> never saw this ...
21:21 < mnemoc> ghostscript-7.07.1
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21:22 < daja77> mnemoc: just wondering, because all that i know is, that gs 8.x support in cups is experimental, that's why i didn't update last time i updated cups
21:22 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6171 /trunk/package/editors/auctex/auctex.desc: * updated auctex (11.53 -> 11.55)
21:24 < mnemoc> daja77: ic
21:24 < rxr> cups as it is a big instable experimental thing ...
21:24 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: which package?
21:25 < mnemoc> daja77: have you tested cups-1.1.23?
21:25 < daja77> yes works here
21:26 < mnemoc> http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L213
21:26 < daja77> in progress, in svn repo, i know
21:27 < daja77> but for cups you need their patched gs anyway
21:28 < _Ragnar_> wait, I might've found the error
21:29 < mnemoc> ghostscript package is espgs-7.07.1
21:30 < mnemoc> i don't use cups, i don't even have a printer. if you tell me you are sure ghostscript-fonts-8.11 doesn't work i'll revert it
21:30 < rxr> mnemoc: leave it so - the fonts will most probably work
21:30 < daja77> don't know if the fonts work with the old gs, never tried that
21:31 < rxr> well - it worked with quite old fonts, too ...
21:32 < daja77> hehe
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21:33 < madtux> re
21:34 < madtux> rxr awake
21:34 < madtux> ?
21:34 < mnemoc> wb madtux
21:34 < rxr> yes
21:34 < madtux> thx mnemoc
21:34 < madtux> good.
21:34 < madtux> is it true that beta3 release is been delayed by some ppc isos in process?
21:34 < jsaw> rxr: how can I tell a class to use a function from parent class?
21:35 < rxr> oehm
21:35 < rxr> you mean if the the class already has this function?
21:35 < rxr> InheritecClassName::MethodToCall();
21:35 < jsaw> example:
21:35 < rxr> IIRC
21:36 < jsaw> class Parent { public: void func(); }; class Child { }, now I want to use "func()" in another method in Child...
21:37 < rxr> just func();
21:37 < jsaw> but when there's only one overloaded method, g++ tells me "func" is undefined
21:37 < mnemoc> madtux: i think we merged every important patch to beta3 tag, but i'm not sure about ISOs status
21:37 < rxr> madtux: yes - but the PPC ISOs will be finsiehd soon
21:38 < jsaw> rxr: forget it,.
21:38 < jsaw> ...
21:39 < jsaw> I forgot the Child:: in front of my method... I'm stupid...
21:39 < rxr> ,-)
21:40 < madtux> to be honest with you guys.. ppc and other archs isos are cool to have, but my personal opinion is that x86 should lead the progress of the project, if patches are merged and so.. it doesn't make sence to just keep updating packages and so on while we are waiting for some isos... non-x86 releases can be made later on... most of the people looking at linux in general are pretty much working only on x86.. and obviously to keep growing as a project and improvin g our c
21:40 < rxr> --- package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc (revision 6171)
21:40 < rxr> +++ package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc (working copy)
21:40 < rxr> @@ -36,8 +36,8 @@
21:40 < rxr> -[V] 1.2
21:40 < rxr> +[V] 1.2.1
21:40 < rxr> -[D] 2916018792 scribus-1.2.tar.bz2 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/apps/office/
21:40 < rxr> +[D] 0 scribus-1.2.1.tar.bz2 http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/scribus/
21:41 < rxr> can someone apply and test it
21:41 < madtux> and not just minimal desktop or so.. but large releases like generic or full desktop
21:41 < rxr> I'm in osx and the Download does not work here
21:41 < rxr> (download/Mirror vs. download/mirror collision)
21:41 < madtux> rxr: i know you like ppc so much and so i like sparc a lot but i really don't think that ppc is really a key priority to let the project move on
21:42 < jsaw> madtux: the market is pretty much saturated for x86 distros, in market speak, I'd say, getting a grip outside x86 is not a bad idea
21:42 < rxr> madtux: problem is that people see the announcement - click on it - and only find x86 and go away
21:42 < rxr> disappointed
21:42 < rxr> and since -beta3 has so many cool stuff I want to get it on osnews.com
21:42 < rxr> and thus want x86 and powerpc handy ...
21:42 < madtux> i see
21:42 < rxr> and I already regret doing it
21:42 < rxr> since my rs6k is so slow
21:43 < rxr> if distcc in the next builds does not speed it up significantly I'll not do so again until I get a faster box ...
21:43 * rxr back coding ... :-(
21:43 < madtux> its a nice thing.. just i don't think is very usefull to put everything on hold for some isos
21:43 < rxr> it is not hold
21:44 < madtux> rxr: please don't take this as an offence i'm just trying to express myself as t2 is intended to be a team efford and a project where others voive means something
21:44 < rxr> we do much stuff in trunk - and get -beta3 quite stable due to the many bug fix merges that got in
21:44 < rxr> at least we will have a -beta4 quite soon then *g*
21:44 < madtux> i know i have been following everything
21:44 < madtux> :P
21:44 < mnemoc> rxr: i have scribus in my queue, but i haven't reached it
21:44 < rxr> madtux: I also think it got delayed too much due to the slow build machine
21:45 < rxr> but now we delayed it so long we can wait until the rs6k finished tomorrow or so ...
21:45 < madtux> maybe its time for us to knock some doors looking hardware sponsors
21:45 < madtux> :)
21:45 < rxr> yes - hardware sponsors ... jsaw: mail to AMD sent ?
21:45 < rxr> ,-)
21:46 < madtux> reach amd, intel, apple, sun, sgi.. everything.. u will never know what could have happened if u don't try
21:46 < madtux> :)
21:46 < jsaw> rxr: thanks for the reminder...please continue.
21:46 < madtux> :)
21:47 < rxr> jsaw: I have a cron job handy ...
21:47 < rxr> if you wanna get a monring mail each day just say so *g**
21:47 < jsaw> I'll have to go to the lab now, cu later
21:47 < madtux> hahaha
21:47 < jsaw> rxr: *LOL*
21:47 < jsaw> yeah, morning mail *plase*
21:47 < mnemoc> :D
21:48 < jsaw> rxr: plug++ or hwplug repo?
21:48 < rxr> oehm
21:48 < rxr> do you right now prototype new hotplug code ?
21:48 < jsaw> yep
21:48 < rxr> plug++ is nice ...
21:48 < rxr> or ?
21:48 < jsaw> I want you to have a look...
21:48 < jsaw> ok, plug++!
21:49 < rxr> this mean I have to setup a new svn repo now ?
21:49 < mnemoc> vote for plug++!
21:49 < jsaw> I wont commit before weekend, so you have time.
21:50 < rxr> time ?
21:50 < jsaw> hehe
21:50 < jsaw> :( :) :( :D
21:50 * rxr wonders if I get time due to creating a new svn repo ...
21:50 < jsaw> finally gone, bbl
21:50 < mnemoc> cu sj
21:50 < mnemoc> js*
21:50 < rxr> however it reminds me I have to setup the linux24-psionw one, too ...
21:51 < rxr> cu jsaw
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21:56 < mnemoc> i hate how slow mozilla-friends build
21:57 < rxr> yes
21:57 < rxr> that is why it is not my primary browser
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21:58 < madtux> whats ur primary browser?
21:59 < mnemoc> konq
22:01 < rxr> safari
22:01 < rxr> no - konqueror even
22:06 < madtux> rxr: i think u are spending a lot of time of with that osX of urs
22:06 < madtux> :)
22:07 < mnemoc> madtux: he is being payed to make some scanners work on osX :)
22:08 < madtux> thats is got..
22:08 < madtux> good
22:08 < madtux> i was just teasing for the safari / konq thingy :)
22:08 < mnemoc> :D
22:26 < mnemoc> rxr: any reason to not have xpp on t2?
22:28 < rxr> xpp waht ?
22:29 < mnemoc> cups' xpp
22:30 < mnemoc> http://cups.sourceforge.net/xpp/
22:31 < rxr> because I have kprinter *g*
22:31 < rxr> of course you can package it ...
22:34 < madtux> :)
22:34 < mnemoc> madtux: can you? ;)
22:35 < daja77> hm xpp
22:35 < madtux> i wouldn't dare to take away all that fun from u
22:36 < mnemoc> daja77: comments?
22:36 < mnemoc> madtux: ok :(
22:36 < daja77> no never used it
22:37 < daja77> thought of packaging it ages ago
22:37 < daja77> madtux shoudl get a nice kde when he is here
22:37 * daja77 runs
22:42 < mnemoc> :D
22:42 < mnemoc> he can't refuse it :)
22:43 < daja77> he could be released from evil gnomes
22:44 * madtux come back
22:44 * madtux grabs his baseball bat..
22:44 < madtux> hello daja77 ..
22:44 < madtux> time to work out..
22:45 < madtux> mm... he already ran away... not fun like that
22:45 * madtux hits mnemoc
22:46 < mnemoc> :)
22:46 < mnemoc> hey!
22:46 < madtux> ah well... actually i've tried kde..
22:46 < mnemoc> xfce4! :)
22:46 < madtux> seems ok... i just like gnome better.
22:47 < madtux> or wm
22:47 < madtux> wmaker*
22:47 < madtux> i will test it mnemoc
22:52 < madtux> ok relaxing time cya in about 1 hour
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22:59 < rxr> re
22:59 < mnemoc> re rxr
23:00 < mnemoc> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtksourceview/1.1/ <-- 1.1.1 and 1.1.92 the same thing?
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23:00 < mnemoc> LATEST-IS-1.1.92 <-- it seems so
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23:06 < jsaw> re
23:12 < mnemoc> i think i know why stone -> password is failing
23:12 < mnemoc> logname=
23:27 < mnemoc> uff... update loop over gnome2/ has finished
23:46 < rxr> n8 all
23:47 < mnemoc> damn.. gmime needs gtk-sharp
23:48 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
23:53 < rxr> ,-)
23:53 < rxr> n8 mnemoc
23:54 < mnemoc> that dependency force a big repriorization
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