T2 IRC Log: 2005-02-20

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--- Log opened Sun Feb 20 00:00:29 2005
00:01 < mnemoc> # mine -q iproute2
00:01 < mnemoc> iproute2 2.6.10-ss050209 2.1.0-beta4
00:01 <@rxr> hehe
00:02 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < mnemoc> xorgconf doesn't want to let me configure my keyboard :(
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00:06 <@rxr> I normally alkways edit the file directly
00:07 <@rxr> using our .example as basse ...
00:11 < mnemoc> done :)
00:13 < mnemoc> http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=40
00:17 <@rxr> pasted on osnews.com:
00:17 <@rxr> T2 is a system development environment. It provides a self-contained distribution build kit based on sources with an up-to-date development toolchain (gcc, glibc, uclibc, dietlibc, X.org, KDE, GNOME, etc.). Its basis is an automatic build system that makes it possible to either update a running system or create a binary distribution that can later be deployed via network or physical media. The system is extremely versatile and makes it possible to create sets of programs for different kinds of systems, from routers over desktops to high performance clusters, including different architectures and platforms.
00:17 <@rxr> The 2.1.0-beta3 release includes full uClibc support (which builds with far more packages than dietlibc), parallel build support for make and scons, support for x86-64. Ccache support now works more reliably with recent ccache releases, SPARC64 support was improved, bash 3 was fixed significantly, various bootdisk creation and file layout improvements were made, wide ncurses was added, and the nVidia binary-only driver now really does get installed. The numerous package updates included Linux 2.6.10, Linux 2.4.29, and a migration to aspell 0.60. Development tools for the Atmel AVR were included.
00:17 <@rxr> Although T2 is a Development Environemt to build customized distributions including LiveCDs, the project makde prebuild ISOs available for selected targets (e.g. desktop, server) and platforms (x86, powerpc).
00:17 <@rxr> The development trunk already includes enhanced cross compile support making it possible to fully cross build systems, an example for ARM PDAs is included.
00:17 <@rxr> Project homepage: http://www.t2-project.org
00:17 * rxr hoping it gets published ...
00:18 < mnemoc> looks good
00:19 * rxr in PR mode ...
00:20 < CIA-9> rene * r6670 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.5rc2 -> 0.5)
00:20 < mnemoc> err... i forgot to commit that
00:20 <@rxr> ,-)
00:20 <@rxr> you commit xfce-terminal ?
00:21 < mnemoc> yes, but it's dependencies first
00:21 < mnemoc> i want to re-categorize before 2.1
00:22 < mnemoc> current sucks badly
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00:22 <@rxr> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html
00:23 <@rxr> mnemoc: /me votes for recat
00:23 <@rxr> but let's talk about it first (on the list) - not that we cat it imperfect on the 3rd try, too
00:24 < mnemoc> sure, i'll not 'just-commit'
00:24 < mnemoc> i added some lines on the wiki
00:25 < mnemoc> and i can't paste the url here!! :\
00:25 < mnemoc> i need a good terminal
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00:31 < CIA-9> amery * r6671 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (0.23 -> 0.23.2)
00:32 <@rxr> so - http://symlink.ch Story also typed in
00:33 < mnemoc> the same?
00:34 <@rxr> nope - it is in german - so translated and adapted for the site
00:34 <@rxr> T2 is rocking so much - it is soooo great!
00:34 <@rxr> I think I'l rework the LiveCD until 2.1-final
00:34 <@rxr> it would atract so many users
00:34 <@rxr> and is a must for a SDE like T2
00:35 < mnemoc> sure
00:35 < mnemoc> sure^2
00:36 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/ 27.55 MB
00:36 <@rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ 56.38 GB
00:36 <@rxr> ouhm - even today
00:36 < mnemoc> :)
00:37 <@rxr> in the last hour: 4.31 GB
00:37 <@rxr> ...
00:37 <@rxr> I hope my uni admins will not add port 80 of that IP to the main firewall ...
00:38 <@rxr> I mean - I got a second IP I could abuse - and could use the studends dynamic IP pool after that *g*
00:38 <@rxr> the gsmp already trasfered 124.99 GB this year ...
00:38 <@rxr> 76.96 GB this month
00:39 * mnemoc moving home
00:39 <@rxr> cu mnemoc
00:39 < mnemoc> you _are_ abusive :)
00:41 <@rxr> nope - I only fear it is too much for our "beloved" adnmins
00:41 <@rxr> admins even
00:44 <@rxr> http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~t2/
01:00 <@rxr> http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
01:00 <@rxr> cool!
01:02 <@rxr> http://sourceforge.net/projects/m2300w/
01:02 <@rxr> ouhm
01:02 <@rxr> I could have bought the cheaper model ...
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01:12 <@rxr> btw. my light flickery when I power up that laser printer
01:16 <@rxr> I hate cups
01:20 <@rxr> hm - yes - yes
01:20 <@rxr> pritner is doing s.th. ...
01:20 <@rxr> cool!
01:20 <@rxr> open source driver managed to get a page out of the printer!
01:20 <@rxr> from my iBook!
01:20 <@rxr> b/w right now ..
01:20 <@rxr> but it is a start!
01:21 <@rxr> also way faster than the binary only thing on my athlon ...
01:22 <@rxr> ok - for color pages to open source driver also needs some time to raster
01:22 <@rxr> cool
01:22 <@rxr> color print works with the open source one above, too!
01:23 <@rxr> now that I know I can print from all of my boxes not just the athlon one with debugable code - the change I keep the printer is way higher ...
01:24 <@rxr> cool - cool
01:24 <@rxr> and /me now in bed
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02:47 < mnemoc> re
02:50 < mnemoc> rxr: you won't need to return it now :)
02:52 < mnemoc> acx100 driver is damn intrusive
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03:21 < CIA-9> amery * r6672 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-utils/fix_weak_alsaconf_script.patch: * fixed alsaconf to not show ugly sh errors on runtime
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03:38 < Postal> hey all
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03:45 < mnemoc> hi Postal
04:05 < mnemoc> cool, linux-fusion is installing on $moduledir/misc converting it into a file :D
04:13 < Postal> mnemoc, if I install gnome from source, will it just over write existing files as it goes, or do I have to delete them first?
04:16 < mnemoc> by hand? it will overwrite
04:16 < Postal> Yeah, I am using Debian right now.. and they are using Gnome 2.6, i am installing 2.8... when i am finished if I restart, will it just start up the new gnome?
04:17 < mnemoc> the safer way is always remove the previous
04:17 < mnemoc> to not get nasty mixes
04:18 < Postal> yeah, thats not an easy thing to do, i cant just do apt-get remove gnome, it dosent work like that, i have to track down all the files first...
04:19 < mnemoc> rm -rf :p
04:19 < mnemoc> that's the good of /opt/ dirs
04:19 < Postal> is gnome kept in a single folder.. I have never actually looked...?
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04:22 < mnemoc> we do that, i don't remember what debian does. but i guess they keep them isolated too
04:22 < Postal> not really it would seem..
04:23 < Postal> and as far as all of the extra libs and deps for gnome, removing all of those would be a nightmare, just better to reinstall
04:23 < Postal> over
04:23 < Postal> previous
04:24 < Postal> if it breaks it breaks, if not, then awsome ;-)
04:24 < mnemoc> :)
04:24 < mnemoc> installing a T2 might be better :)
04:24 < Postal> Its installing on my laptop, i can only deal with one at a time ;-)
04:25 < Postal> although, I just put another 80GB HD in, so i could mount it in /mnt/t2 and install it there
04:25 < mnemoc> i'm fighting against that damn acx100 wifi card on my beta4 laptop
04:25 < mnemoc> yep
04:26 < Postal> I suppose, but not tonight, Im dealing with Gnome, which is quite a handfull, and I have to not restart my computer for a while for T2..
04:26 < Postal> cause it takes a while to build
04:27 < mnemoc> build in another machine while you play :)
04:27 < mnemoc> this is not gentoo
04:27 < Postal> also, when I did the generic build, it came back with hundreds of errors, so many in fact, that I did not post them.. there must have been 300+ errors in stage 5
04:28 < mnemoc> i got 73 on my last reference build
04:28 < mnemoc> and 0 on mnemosyne
04:28 < Postal> yeah, but I had so many, that I bearly had a working system
04:29 < Postal> and what do you mean build in another machine while you play this is not gentoo.. i dont get the refrence
04:29 < mnemoc> you can build in another(s) machine(s) and install later on your target
04:30 < Postal> i know
04:30 < Postal> ;-)
04:30 < Postal> can you not do that with gentoo?
04:30 < mnemoc> on gentoo you build directly on target(s)
04:31 < Postal> is it easy to remove programs with T2, i have never tried..?
04:31 < mnemoc> mine -r program
04:31 < Postal> even though its source..
04:32 < mnemoc> if you emerge them or install using `mine -i` you can remove them with mine -r
04:32 < Postal> is it better to emerge, or to use mine?
04:33 < Postal> GConf, seems to have problems with parrallel make... "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../backends/libgconfbackend-oldxml.la', needed by `xml-test'. Stop.
04:33 < Postal> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
04:33 < Postal> "
04:35 < mnemoc> are you using HEAD?
04:36 < mnemoc> Emerge builds directly on target
04:36 < mnemoc> mine -i installs packages built with Build-Target on some other machine
04:36 < Postal> what is HEAD, i hear this term used alot hear and i dont know what it means
04:37 < mnemoc> i have xorg+xfce4+thunderbird+firefox on a p90, i can't imagine how long could i take to build that directly on target
04:37 < mnemoc> HEAD is the current state of the repository
04:37 < Postal> ah
04:37 < mnemoc> the last revision
04:38 < Postal> not right now, im in Debian SID, AMD64 and the source is from Gnome.. but gconf definitly has problems with parallel make
04:38 < mnemoc> we flag packages which are not PARALLEL-safe
04:39 < Postal> well, gnome dosent apparently
04:39 < Postal> you just add a [F] NOPARALLEL option in the .desc
04:39 < mnemoc> gconf is flaged as NOPARALLEL
04:39 < Postal> in your HEAD it is, but im not using that...
04:40 < mnemoc> beta3 has it too iirc
04:40 < mnemoc> yes it is
04:41 < Postal> If I have two other 32 bit machines, can i get the to distcc, an amd64 build?
04:41 < mnemoc> yep
04:41 < Postal> will it shave a good amount of time off?
04:42 < mnemoc> yep, disctcc is cool
04:42 < Postal> there P4 2.8Ghz, with 1 GB ram..
04:42 < Postal> so ill have 2 P4 2.8ghz, with 1GB of ram, and a gig of swap, and an AMD64 with 2gb of ram and a gig of swap... thats alot of power
04:43 < mnemoc> :)
04:43 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep
04:43 < Postal> lol ttyl
04:43 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow.... good luck
04:44 < mnemoc> gn8
04:44 < Postal> cu
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05:53 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again!
05:53 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Feb 19 18:03:55 2005]
05:53 [Users #t2]
05:53 [@rxr ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ praenti] [ valentin]
05:53 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ Postal] [ rxr_ ]
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05:53 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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09:47 < ilia> svn: REPORT request failed on '/t2/!svn/vcc/default'
09:47 < ilia> svn: REPORT of '/t2/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de)
09:47 < ilia> how to fix this?
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10:25 < mipe> hmm,tools wont build anymore for me :(,doesnt find proper libc files,trying to link with 32bit ones
10:25 < mipe> and it doesnt search from 64bit paths for libc
10:28 < mipe> oh well,thats because of it cant link in chroot
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11:01 < mipe> and fixed :)
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12:13 < rxr_> re
12:13 -!- You're now known as rxr
12:20 < mipe> hi rxr
12:36 < rxr> moin mipe
12:36 < rxr> can you expain some of the details of the problems you run into ?
12:36 < CIA-9> rene * r6673 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (5.1 -> 5.2)
12:46 < mipe> rxr:build-tools didnt work because usr/x86-*/lib was symlinked to 32bit libs
12:48 < mipe> but making it to link 64bit causes some strange errors on 2-gcc
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12:52 < jeru> moin
14:45 < rxr> re
14:45 < rxr> hi jeru
14:46 < rxr> we are on osnews.com ...
14:47 < rxr> and on http://symlink.ch/
14:53 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=05/02/20/1319244
14:55 < rxr> I wonder whether I should try to push it onto slashdot ...
14:59 < valentin> rxr: i guess on ./ we will be gentoo'ed - but go for it ! ,)
15:03 < mipe> btw. is there p4 isos? will install t2 to my laptop next week or whenever i get time to backup stuff from it
15:04 < rxr> only pemtium-mmx are there
15:04 < rxr> we can not prebult any optimzation
15:05 < rxr> too much CPU time, testing and upload overhead ...
15:18 < rxr> news submitted to http://www.heise.de
15:36 * jeru is back
15:36 < jeru> hey folks
15:38 < jeru> rxr: so you're doing PR :)
15:39 < rxr> and quite a lot of it ... ;-)
15:39 < jeru> hehe :)
15:47 * valentin submitted news to pro-linux
15:47 < valentin> +.de
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15:48 < rxr> valentin: placing full URLs here higher our google rating
15:48 < rxr> since they are converted to a href="" in the IRC log parser -> .html ...
15:48 < rxr> http://www.pro-linux.de
15:50 < valentin> for i,j,k,l in 0..255 do ; print host $i.$j.$k,$l ; done
15:55 < rxr> syntax error near unexpected token `print'
15:56 < valentin> for .... ; do
15:56 < valentin> sorry
15:56 < rxr> `i,j,k,l': not a valid identifier
15:56 < valentin> but the loop expression is also pseudocode
15:57 < rxr> hehee
15:57 < valentin> rxr: that line was considered a joke not an implementation
15:57 < rxr> okok ;-)
15:58 < valentin> patent: ipv4 address generator that can print _all_ ipv4 addresses of the entire net
15:59 < rxr> yeah - place it onto our patent portfolio
15:59 < rxr> add claims to partially implementations that only can generate a subset
15:59 < rxr> as well as input masks allowing entering of those including subsets ...
16:00 < mnemoc> moin
16:00 < valentin> moin mnemoc
16:00 < jeru> moin mnemoc ... :)
16:02 < mnemoc> moin valentin, jeru, rxr
16:05 < rxr> seems we will be on http://www.golem.de today, too
16:06 < rxr> On February the 2nd at the ZDF info channel in the magazine "neues kompakt" they featured blender 2.35, the blender website and some secounds of MiniTru, Chicken Chair. See the article here.
16:06 < rxr> ^- Blender in German TV magazine
16:06 < rxr> http://www.blender.org/
16:06 < rxr> http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/einzelsendung_content/0,1972,2451191,00.html
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16:27 < mnemoc> a real jsaw?
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16:29 < c4y0> hi!!!!
16:29 < mnemoc> hi c4y0
16:30 < c4y0> hello mnemoc ! =)
16:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc c4y0
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16:43 < rxr> 2878.55 kBit/s <- gsmp outgoing
16:44 < mnemoc> :D
16:58 * mnemoc wonders if we should package ourselves
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17:27 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Download: line 489: 29630 Segmentation fault curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete"
17:27 < mnemoc> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage.
17:27 < mnemoc> third time today
17:28 < mnemoc> nice, the sf's load balancer is alive again
17:32 < CIA-9> amery * r6674 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * changed DownloadTranslations because sf's balancer is up again.
18:20 < rxr> mnemoc: what are the control sequences that make this page look so strange:
18:20 < rxr> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?KnownBugs
18:25 < CIA-9> rene * r6675 /trunk/target/bootdisk/powerpc/build.sh: * readded boot.msg to the yaboot.confs of the powerpc install cd ...
18:31 < mnemoc> re
18:32 < mnemoc> rxr: the spaces before the *
18:32 < rxr> oh
18:32 < mnemoc> *
18:32 < mnemoc> **
18:32 < mnemoc> ***
18:45 < CIA-9> amery * r6676 /trunk/package/games/ltris/ltris.desc: * updated ltris (1.0.9 -> 1.0.10)
18:48 < CIA-9> amery * r6677 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.7.2 -> 1.8.0)
18:49 < CIA-9> amery * r6678 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/aqbanking.desc: * updated aqbanking (0.9.8 -> 1.0.5beta)
19:16 < CIA-9> amery * r6679 /trunk/package/gnome14/gnucash/ (gnucash.desc mixed-decl-fix.patch): * updated gnucash (1.8.10 -> 1.8.11)
19:30 < rxr> don't forget to package xfce-terminal ;-)
19:32 < rxr> su -
19:32 < rxr> hehe
19:42 < mnemoc> it is... mom
19:42 < mnemoc> aa... on my wifi-less laptop :|
19:43 < mnemoc> i haven been unable to write postlinux.conf for acx100
19:44 < mnemoc> i'll commit libexo and Terminal tomorrow from office
19:44 < rxr> ok
19:44 < rxr> is acx100 already packaged ?
19:44 < mnemoc> nope
19:44 < rxr> you could add the desc and I do the postlinux.conf ...
19:44 < mnemoc> i can commit if you want to write it's postlinux
19:44 < mnemoc> ok
19:44 < mnemoc> deal
19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: sent
19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: network/acx100
20:01 < mnemoc> 1435 builds total, 1363 completed fine, 72 with errors
20:03 < mnemoc> CIA-9: ?
20:09 < CIA-9> amery * r6680 /trunk/package/games/allegro/allegro.desc: * updated allegro (4.1.14 -> 4.1.18)
20:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6681 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (. acx100.conf acx100.desc postlinux.conf): * added acx100 (0.2.0pre8-45)
20:16 < mnemoc> rxr: paragui-1.0.4 gives:
20:16 < mnemoc> grep: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory
20:16 < mnemoc> sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i386-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory
20:16 * mnemoc wonder about updating to paragui-1.1.8
20:19 < mnemoc> but mine is i686
20:19 < mnemoc> another libtool odditie?
20:21 < valentin> hi from 3.1.0-beta3
20:21 < mnemoc> what year it is? 2010?
20:21 < valentin> rocknet firewalls do not work
20:22 < valentin> 2005
20:22 < mnemoc> hi from 3.1.0-beta3
20:22 < valentin> oh :)
20:22 < mnemoc> :)
20:22 < valentin> yeah, i am about 4000 revisions ahead of you
20:23 < mnemoc> hehe
20:24 < valentin> can anyone verify if sysfs is mounted when entering chrooted stone after package installation ?
20:25 < mnemoc> i have installe 3 beta3 and 1 beta4 without troubles
20:27 < mnemoc> i trust it is, because the my laptop has lvm2 and devicemapper use it (afaik)
20:29 < rxr> re
20:29 < valentin> hi
20:30 < rxr> hm - /sys might not be mounted there
20:30 < mnemoc> doesn't linuxrc mount those?
20:30 < rxr> I do not think /sys (yet)
20:31 * rxr just fixed mol for linux-2.6.10 *g*
20:32 < valentin> my ybin failed because there was no sysfs
20:32 < valentin> but i screwed sth up before
20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: :) goood... now go for acx100 :p
20:32 < daja77> acx100 works for me, but i mad enoc package
20:32 < valentin> xorg running too
20:32 < valentin> hi daja77
20:32 < daja77> hi valentin
20:34 < valentin> rxr: the framebuffer screen blanking has strange effects during installation
20:35 < rxr> yeah - could you mail benh the details *g*
20:36 < CIA-9> rene * r6682 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/dhcp-fixes.patch: * fixed mol to really fire dhcpd up correctly (finally)
20:36 < valentin> and the scrollkeeper stuff tries to access the web
20:36 < valentin> last but not least the font cache generation prints many errors
20:37 < CIA-9> rene * r6683 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/linux-2.6.10.patch: * fixed mol for linux26 >= 2.6.10
20:37 < mnemoc> daja77: the package is fine, my problem was injecting in on linux26 using rene's /postlinux.con/
20:37 < rxr> +f
20:37 < valentin> and all the ldconfig updatedb whatis .... stuff should be done before the basic system configuration imo
20:37 < valentin> basic kde stuff works
20:39 < rxr> damn - for some strange reason tun in my 2.6.10 does not work quite right
20:43 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9765
20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r6684 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.82 -> 0.83)
20:51 < rxr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/20/1539204.shtml
20:59 < mnemoc> rxr: with paragui-1.1.8 i get the same i386 instead of i686 libtool error. how did you fix this the last time?
21:00 < rxr> no idea ...
21:03 < mnemoc> i have to go :\
21:03 < mnemoc> cu *
21:05 < rxr> cu
21:21 < valentin> "Vorbis decode is computationally simpler than mp3, although it does require more working memory"
21:21 < valentin> http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/vorbis-spec-intro.html
21:23 < valentin> ^- can't believe that
21:25 < valentin> ok, there is not much difference between ogg123 and mpg123 on files with comparable bitrates
21:26 < valentin> both utilize between 3.5% and 4.0% cpu
21:27 < rxr> there is also the integer only theora decoder ...
21:27 < rxr> I think we have no package yet ...
21:28 < valentin> perhaps they mean "less complex implementation than mp3"
21:33 < rxr> they mean in theory - and the ogg encoder is not yet optimized ...
21:33 < rxr> there is a new interger only encoder for e.g. embedded use ..
21:33 < rxr> maybe it put's less load on your iBook ..
21:33 < rxr> especially with our tiny FPU unit
21:34 < valentin> rxr s/en/de ?
21:35 < rxr> ?
21:35 < valentin> decoder
21:36 < rxr> yep
21:53 < rxr> ooo for mac is 155MB ... !?!
21:54 < rxr> 3317 root 15 0 119m 99m 4536 S 25.8 15.9 2:43.25 mol
21:54 < rxr> 2221 root 15 0 89052 43m 8708 S 15.9 7.0 2:37.07 X
21:55 < rxr> osx downloading ooo ...
21:59 < rxr> with the download window with the spinig progress bar hidden:
21:59 < rxr> 3317 root 15 0 119m 99m 4536 S 13.9 15.9 3:59.71 mol
21:59 < rxr> 2221 root 16 0 89052 43m 8708 R 11.9 7.0 3:37.77 X
22:12 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org today: 51.37 MB yesterday: 27.55 MB the day before: 1.79 MB
22:46 < CIA-9> rene * r6685 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/stone_mod_install.sh: * added keyboard mapping selection as first step during the installation
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23:29 < rxr> coold README:
23:29 < rxr> cool even:
23:29 < rxr> Please don't use the NDIS driver loader cludge instead of our driver.
23:29 < rxr> For an incredible number of reasons against it, please see
23:29 < rxr> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ndis_cludge.html
23:29 < rxr> (for a start: our driver now supports AMD64, PowerPC, MIPS and of course x86
23:29 < rxr> -- now please try to do that with NDIS loader "solutions", ok?)
23:33 < CIA-9> rene * r6686 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in):
23:33 < CIA-9> * removed {l,s}trace as well as libelf and joe form the bootdisk
23:33 < CIA-9> * cleaned up the terminfo and keyboad layout extraction and added
23:33 < CIA-9> xterm-new as well as all the needed kbd include files so loading
23:33 < CIA-9> the keymaps actually works now
23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: whatd
23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you run to get your acx s.th. driver built? just make ?
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