--- Log opened Sun Feb 20 00:00:29 2005 00:01 < mnemoc> # mine -q iproute2 00:01 < mnemoc> iproute2 2.6.10-ss050209 2.1.0-beta4 00:01 <@rxr> hehe 00:02 < mnemoc> :) 00:02 < mnemoc> xorgconf doesn't want to let me configure my keyboard :( 00:05 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:05 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #t2 00:06 <@rxr> I normally alkways edit the file directly 00:07 <@rxr> using our .example as basse ... 00:11 < mnemoc> done :) 00:13 < mnemoc> http://www.os-cillation.com/article.php?sid=40 00:17 <@rxr> pasted on osnews.com: 00:17 <@rxr> T2 is a system development environment. It provides a self-contained distribution build kit based on sources with an up-to-date development toolchain (gcc, glibc, uclibc, dietlibc, X.org, KDE, GNOME, etc.). Its basis is an automatic build system that makes it possible to either update a running system or create a binary distribution that can later be deployed via network or physical media. The system is extremely versatile and makes it possible to create sets of programs for different kinds of systems, from routers over desktops to high performance clusters, including different architectures and platforms. 00:17 <@rxr> The 2.1.0-beta3 release includes full uClibc support (which builds with far more packages than dietlibc), parallel build support for make and scons, support for x86-64. Ccache support now works more reliably with recent ccache releases, SPARC64 support was improved, bash 3 was fixed significantly, various bootdisk creation and file layout improvements were made, wide ncurses was added, and the nVidia binary-only driver now really does get installed. The numerous package updates included Linux 2.6.10, Linux 2.4.29, and a migration to aspell 0.60. Development tools for the Atmel AVR were included. 00:17 <@rxr> Although T2 is a Development Environemt to build customized distributions including LiveCDs, the project makde prebuild ISOs available for selected targets (e.g. desktop, server) and platforms (x86, powerpc). 00:17 <@rxr> The development trunk already includes enhanced cross compile support making it possible to fully cross build systems, an example for ARM PDAs is included. 00:17 <@rxr> Project homepage: http://www.t2-project.org 00:17 * rxr hoping it gets published ... 00:18 < mnemoc> looks good 00:19 * rxr in PR mode ... 00:20 < CIA-9> rene * r6670 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.5rc2 -> 0.5) 00:20 < mnemoc> err... i forgot to commit that 00:20 <@rxr> ,-) 00:20 <@rxr> you commit xfce-terminal ? 00:21 < mnemoc> yes, but it's dependencies first 00:21 < mnemoc> i want to re-categorize before 2.1 00:22 < mnemoc> current sucks badly 00:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:22 <@rxr> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html 00:23 <@rxr> mnemoc: /me votes for recat 00:23 <@rxr> but let's talk about it first (on the list) - not that we cat it imperfect on the 3rd try, too 00:24 < mnemoc> sure, i'll not 'just-commit' 00:24 < mnemoc> i added some lines on the wiki 00:25 < mnemoc> and i can't paste the url here!! :\ 00:25 < mnemoc> i need a good terminal 00:30 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 00:31 < CIA-9> amery * r6671 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (0.23 -> 0.23.2) 00:32 <@rxr> so - http://symlink.ch Story also typed in 00:33 < mnemoc> the same? 00:34 <@rxr> nope - it is in german - so translated and adapted for the site 00:34 <@rxr> T2 is rocking so much - it is soooo great! 00:34 <@rxr> I think I'l rework the LiveCD until 2.1-final 00:34 <@rxr> it would atract so many users 00:34 <@rxr> and is a must for a SDE like T2 00:35 < mnemoc> sure 00:35 < mnemoc> sure^2 00:36 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/ 27.55 MB 00:36 <@rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ 56.38 GB 00:36 <@rxr> ouhm - even today 00:36 < mnemoc> :) 00:37 <@rxr> in the last hour: 4.31 GB 00:37 <@rxr> ... 00:37 <@rxr> I hope my uni admins will not add port 80 of that IP to the main firewall ... 00:38 <@rxr> I mean - I got a second IP I could abuse - and could use the studends dynamic IP pool after that *g* 00:38 <@rxr> the gsmp already trasfered 124.99 GB this year ... 00:38 <@rxr> 76.96 GB this month 00:39 * mnemoc moving home 00:39 <@rxr> cu mnemoc 00:39 < mnemoc> you _are_ abusive :) 00:41 <@rxr> nope - I only fear it is too much for our "beloved" adnmins 00:41 <@rxr> admins even 00:44 <@rxr> http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~t2/ 01:00 <@rxr> http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ 01:00 <@rxr> cool! 01:02 <@rxr> http://sourceforge.net/projects/m2300w/ 01:02 <@rxr> ouhm 01:02 <@rxr> I could have bought the cheaper model ... 01:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 01:12 <@rxr> btw. my light flickery when I power up that laser printer 01:16 <@rxr> I hate cups 01:20 <@rxr> hm - yes - yes 01:20 <@rxr> pritner is doing s.th. ... 01:20 <@rxr> cool! 01:20 <@rxr> open source driver managed to get a page out of the printer! 01:20 <@rxr> from my iBook! 01:20 <@rxr> b/w right now .. 01:20 <@rxr> but it is a start! 01:21 <@rxr> also way faster than the binary only thing on my athlon ... 01:22 <@rxr> ok - for color pages to open source driver also needs some time to raster 01:22 <@rxr> cool 01:22 <@rxr> color print works with the open source one above, too! 01:23 <@rxr> now that I know I can print from all of my boxes not just the athlon one with debugable code - the change I keep the printer is way higher ... 01:24 <@rxr> cool - cool 01:24 <@rxr> and /me now in bed 01:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 02:47 < mnemoc> re 02:50 < mnemoc> rxr: you won't need to return it now :) 02:52 < mnemoc> acx100 driver is damn intrusive 03:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 03:21 < CIA-9> amery * r6672 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-utils/fix_weak_alsaconf_script.patch: * fixed alsaconf to not show ugly sh errors on runtime 03:38 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 03:38 < Postal> hey all 03:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 03:45 < mnemoc> hi Postal 04:05 < mnemoc> cool, linux-fusion is installing on $moduledir/misc converting it into a file :D 04:13 < Postal> mnemoc, if I install gnome from source, will it just over write existing files as it goes, or do I have to delete them first? 04:16 < mnemoc> by hand? it will overwrite 04:16 < Postal> Yeah, I am using Debian right now.. and they are using Gnome 2.6, i am installing 2.8... when i am finished if I restart, will it just start up the new gnome? 04:17 < mnemoc> the safer way is always remove the previous 04:17 < mnemoc> to not get nasty mixes 04:18 < Postal> yeah, thats not an easy thing to do, i cant just do apt-get remove gnome, it dosent work like that, i have to track down all the files first... 04:19 < mnemoc> rm -rf :p 04:19 < mnemoc> that's the good of /opt/ dirs 04:19 < Postal> is gnome kept in a single folder.. I have never actually looked...? 04:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 04:22 < mnemoc> we do that, i don't remember what debian does. but i guess they keep them isolated too 04:22 < Postal> not really it would seem.. 04:23 < Postal> and as far as all of the extra libs and deps for gnome, removing all of those would be a nightmare, just better to reinstall 04:23 < Postal> over 04:23 < Postal> previous 04:24 < Postal> if it breaks it breaks, if not, then awsome ;-) 04:24 < mnemoc> :) 04:24 < mnemoc> installing a T2 might be better :) 04:24 < Postal> Its installing on my laptop, i can only deal with one at a time ;-) 04:25 < Postal> although, I just put another 80GB HD in, so i could mount it in /mnt/t2 and install it there 04:25 < mnemoc> i'm fighting against that damn acx100 wifi card on my beta4 laptop 04:25 < mnemoc> yep 04:26 < Postal> I suppose, but not tonight, Im dealing with Gnome, which is quite a handfull, and I have to not restart my computer for a while for T2.. 04:26 < Postal> cause it takes a while to build 04:27 < mnemoc> build in another machine while you play :) 04:27 < mnemoc> this is not gentoo 04:27 < Postal> also, when I did the generic build, it came back with hundreds of errors, so many in fact, that I did not post them.. there must have been 300+ errors in stage 5 04:28 < mnemoc> i got 73 on my last reference build 04:28 < mnemoc> and 0 on mnemosyne 04:28 < Postal> yeah, but I had so many, that I bearly had a working system 04:29 < Postal> and what do you mean build in another machine while you play this is not gentoo.. i dont get the refrence 04:29 < mnemoc> you can build in another(s) machine(s) and install later on your target 04:30 < Postal> i know 04:30 < Postal> ;-) 04:30 < Postal> can you not do that with gentoo? 04:30 < mnemoc> on gentoo you build directly on target(s) 04:31 < Postal> is it easy to remove programs with T2, i have never tried..? 04:31 < mnemoc> mine -r program 04:31 < Postal> even though its source.. 04:32 < mnemoc> if you emerge them or install using `mine -i` you can remove them with mine -r 04:32 < Postal> is it better to emerge, or to use mine? 04:33 < Postal> GConf, seems to have problems with parrallel make... "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../backends/libgconfbackend-oldxml.la', needed by `xml-test'. Stop. 04:33 < Postal> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... 04:33 < Postal> " 04:35 < mnemoc> are you using HEAD? 04:36 < mnemoc> Emerge builds directly on target 04:36 < mnemoc> mine -i installs packages built with Build-Target on some other machine 04:36 < Postal> what is HEAD, i hear this term used alot hear and i dont know what it means 04:37 < mnemoc> i have xorg+xfce4+thunderbird+firefox on a p90, i can't imagine how long could i take to build that directly on target 04:37 < mnemoc> HEAD is the current state of the repository 04:37 < Postal> ah 04:37 < mnemoc> the last revision 04:38 < Postal> not right now, im in Debian SID, AMD64 and the source is from Gnome.. but gconf definitly has problems with parallel make 04:38 < mnemoc> we flag packages which are not PARALLEL-safe 04:39 < Postal> well, gnome dosent apparently 04:39 < Postal> you just add a [F] NOPARALLEL option in the .desc 04:39 < mnemoc> gconf is flaged as NOPARALLEL 04:39 < Postal> in your HEAD it is, but im not using that... 04:40 < mnemoc> beta3 has it too iirc 04:40 < mnemoc> yes it is 04:41 < Postal> If I have two other 32 bit machines, can i get the to distcc, an amd64 build? 04:41 < mnemoc> yep 04:41 < Postal> will it shave a good amount of time off? 04:42 < mnemoc> yep, disctcc is cool 04:42 < Postal> there P4 2.8Ghz, with 1 GB ram.. 04:42 < Postal> so ill have 2 P4 2.8ghz, with 1GB of ram, and a gig of swap, and an AMD64 with 2gb of ram and a gig of swap... thats alot of power 04:43 < mnemoc> :) 04:43 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep 04:43 < Postal> lol ttyl 04:43 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow.... good luck 04:44 < mnemoc> gn8 04:44 < Postal> cu 05:00 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.44] has joined #t2 05:01 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:01 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #t2 05:02 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:05 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.44] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:06 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.44] has joined #t2 05:53 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.198.193.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 05:53 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again! 05:53 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Feb 19 18:03:55 2005] 05:53 [Users #t2] 05:53 [@rxr ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ praenti] [ valentin] 05:53 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ Postal] [ rxr_ ] 05:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 05:53 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 05:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 05:55 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.196.135.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:58 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 06:30 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 07:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 08:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 08:56 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 09:21 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 09:21 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:46 -!- ilia [~ilia@212.116.139.141] has joined #t2 09:47 < ilia> svn: REPORT request failed on '/t2/!svn/vcc/default' 09:47 < ilia> svn: REPORT of '/t2/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de) 09:47 < ilia> how to fix this? 10:17 -!- ilia [~ilia@212.116.139.141] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 10:25 < mipe> hmm,tools wont build anymore for me :(,doesnt find proper libc files,trying to link with 32bit ones 10:25 < mipe> and it doesnt search from 64bit paths for libc 10:28 < mipe> oh well,thats because of it cant link in chroot 10:31 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:01 < mipe> and fixed :) 11:48 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 12:13 < rxr_> re 12:13 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:20 < mipe> hi rxr 12:36 < rxr> moin mipe 12:36 < rxr> can you expain some of the details of the problems you run into ? 12:36 < CIA-9> rene * r6673 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (5.1 -> 5.2) 12:46 < mipe> rxr:build-tools didnt work because usr/x86-*/lib was symlinked to 32bit libs 12:48 < mipe> but making it to link 64bit causes some strange errors on 2-gcc 12:52 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFD02D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:52 < jeru> moin 14:45 < rxr> re 14:45 < rxr> hi jeru 14:46 < rxr> we are on osnews.com ... 14:47 < rxr> and on http://symlink.ch/ 14:53 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=05/02/20/1319244 14:55 < rxr> I wonder whether I should try to push it onto slashdot ... 14:59 < valentin> rxr: i guess on ./ we will be gentoo'ed - but go for it ! ,) 15:03 < mipe> btw. is there p4 isos? will install t2 to my laptop next week or whenever i get time to backup stuff from it 15:04 < rxr> only pemtium-mmx are there 15:04 < rxr> we can not prebult any optimzation 15:05 < rxr> too much CPU time, testing and upload overhead ... 15:18 < rxr> news submitted to http://www.heise.de 15:36 * jeru is back 15:36 < jeru> hey folks 15:38 < jeru> rxr: so you're doing PR :) 15:39 < rxr> and quite a lot of it ... ;-) 15:39 < jeru> hehe :) 15:47 * valentin submitted news to pro-linux 15:47 < valentin> +.de 15:47 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 15:48 < rxr> valentin: placing full URLs here higher our google rating 15:48 < rxr> since they are converted to a href="" in the IRC log parser -> .html ... 15:48 < rxr> http://www.pro-linux.de 15:50 < valentin> for i,j,k,l in 0..255 do ; print host $i.$j.$k,$l ; done 15:55 < rxr> syntax error near unexpected token `print' 15:56 < valentin> for .... ; do 15:56 < valentin> sorry 15:56 < rxr> `i,j,k,l': not a valid identifier 15:56 < valentin> but the loop expression is also pseudocode 15:57 < rxr> hehee 15:57 < valentin> rxr: that line was considered a joke not an implementation 15:57 < rxr> okok ;-) 15:58 < valentin> patent: ipv4 address generator that can print _all_ ipv4 addresses of the entire net 15:59 < rxr> yeah - place it onto our patent portfolio 15:59 < rxr> add claims to partially implementations that only can generate a subset 15:59 < rxr> as well as input masks allowing entering of those including subsets ... 16:00 < mnemoc> moin 16:00 < valentin> moin mnemoc 16:00 < jeru> moin mnemoc ... :) 16:02 < mnemoc> moin valentin, jeru, rxr 16:05 < rxr> seems we will be on http://www.golem.de today, too 16:06 < rxr> On February the 2nd at the ZDF info channel in the magazine "neues kompakt" they featured blender 2.35, the blender website and some secounds of MiniTru, Chicken Chair. See the article here. 16:06 < rxr> ^- Blender in German TV magazine 16:06 < rxr> http://www.blender.org/ 16:06 < rxr> http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/einzelsendung_content/0,1972,2451191,00.html 16:27 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:27 < mnemoc> a real jsaw? 16:29 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.116.158.3] has joined #t2 16:29 < c4y0> hi!!!! 16:29 < mnemoc> hi c4y0 16:30 < c4y0> hello mnemoc ! =) 16:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc c4y0 16:36 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:37 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.116.158.3] has quit ["BitchX-1.0c20cvs: just when you thought it couldn't get any better"] 16:43 < rxr> 2878.55 kBit/s <- gsmp outgoing 16:44 < mnemoc> :D 16:58 * mnemoc wonders if we should package ourselves 17:03 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 17:04 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:27 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Download: line 489: 29630 Segmentation fault curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete" 17:27 < mnemoc> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage. 17:27 < mnemoc> third time today 17:28 < mnemoc> nice, the sf's load balancer is alive again 17:32 < CIA-9> amery * r6674 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * changed DownloadTranslations because sf's balancer is up again. 18:20 < rxr> mnemoc: what are the control sequences that make this page look so strange: 18:20 < rxr> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?KnownBugs 18:25 < CIA-9> rene * r6675 /trunk/target/bootdisk/powerpc/build.sh: * readded boot.msg to the yaboot.confs of the powerpc install cd ... 18:31 < mnemoc> re 18:32 < mnemoc> rxr: the spaces before the * 18:32 < rxr> oh 18:32 < mnemoc> * 18:32 < mnemoc> ** 18:32 < mnemoc> *** 18:45 < CIA-9> amery * r6676 /trunk/package/games/ltris/ltris.desc: * updated ltris (1.0.9 -> 1.0.10) 18:48 < CIA-9> amery * r6677 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.7.2 -> 1.8.0) 18:49 < CIA-9> amery * r6678 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/aqbanking.desc: * updated aqbanking (0.9.8 -> 1.0.5beta) 19:16 < CIA-9> amery * r6679 /trunk/package/gnome14/gnucash/ (gnucash.desc mixed-decl-fix.patch): * updated gnucash (1.8.10 -> 1.8.11) 19:30 < rxr> don't forget to package xfce-terminal ;-) 19:32 < rxr> su - 19:32 < rxr> hehe 19:42 < mnemoc> it is... mom 19:42 < mnemoc> aa... on my wifi-less laptop :| 19:43 < mnemoc> i haven been unable to write postlinux.conf for acx100 19:44 < mnemoc> i'll commit libexo and Terminal tomorrow from office 19:44 < rxr> ok 19:44 < rxr> is acx100 already packaged ? 19:44 < mnemoc> nope 19:44 < rxr> you could add the desc and I do the postlinux.conf ... 19:44 < mnemoc> i can commit if you want to write it's postlinux 19:44 < mnemoc> ok 19:44 < mnemoc> deal 19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: sent 19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: network/acx100 20:01 < mnemoc> 1435 builds total, 1363 completed fine, 72 with errors 20:03 < mnemoc> CIA-9: ? 20:09 < CIA-9> amery * r6680 /trunk/package/games/allegro/allegro.desc: * updated allegro (4.1.14 -> 4.1.18) 20:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6681 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (. acx100.conf acx100.desc postlinux.conf): * added acx100 (0.2.0pre8-45) 20:16 < mnemoc> rxr: paragui-1.0.4 gives: 20:16 < mnemoc> grep: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory 20:16 < mnemoc> sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i386-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory 20:16 * mnemoc wonder about updating to paragui-1.1.8 20:19 < mnemoc> but mine is i686 20:19 < mnemoc> another libtool odditie? 20:21 < valentin> hi from 3.1.0-beta3 20:21 < mnemoc> what year it is? 2010? 20:21 < valentin> rocknet firewalls do not work 20:22 < valentin> 2005 20:22 < mnemoc> hi from 3.1.0-beta3 20:22 < valentin> oh :) 20:22 < mnemoc> :) 20:22 < valentin> yeah, i am about 4000 revisions ahead of you 20:23 < mnemoc> hehe 20:24 < valentin> can anyone verify if sysfs is mounted when entering chrooted stone after package installation ? 20:25 < mnemoc> i have installe 3 beta3 and 1 beta4 without troubles 20:27 < mnemoc> i trust it is, because the my laptop has lvm2 and devicemapper use it (afaik) 20:29 < rxr> re 20:29 < valentin> hi 20:30 < rxr> hm - /sys might not be mounted there 20:30 < mnemoc> doesn't linuxrc mount those? 20:30 < rxr> I do not think /sys (yet) 20:31 * rxr just fixed mol for linux-2.6.10 *g* 20:32 < valentin> my ybin failed because there was no sysfs 20:32 < valentin> but i screwed sth up before 20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: :) goood... now go for acx100 :p 20:32 < daja77> acx100 works for me, but i mad enoc package 20:32 < valentin> xorg running too 20:32 < valentin> hi daja77 20:32 < daja77> hi valentin 20:34 < valentin> rxr: the framebuffer screen blanking has strange effects during installation 20:35 < rxr> yeah - could you mail benh the details *g* 20:36 < CIA-9> rene * r6682 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/dhcp-fixes.patch: * fixed mol to really fire dhcpd up correctly (finally) 20:36 < valentin> and the scrollkeeper stuff tries to access the web 20:36 < valentin> last but not least the font cache generation prints many errors 20:37 < CIA-9> rene * r6683 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/linux-2.6.10.patch: * fixed mol for linux26 >= 2.6.10 20:37 < mnemoc> daja77: the package is fine, my problem was injecting in on linux26 using rene's /postlinux.con/ 20:37 < rxr> +f 20:37 < valentin> and all the ldconfig updatedb whatis .... stuff should be done before the basic system configuration imo 20:37 < valentin> basic kde stuff works 20:39 < rxr> damn - for some strange reason tun in my 2.6.10 does not work quite right 20:43 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9765 20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r6684 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.82 -> 0.83) 20:51 < rxr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/20/1539204.shtml 20:59 < mnemoc> rxr: with paragui-1.1.8 i get the same i386 instead of i686 libtool error. how did you fix this the last time? 21:00 < rxr> no idea ... 21:03 < mnemoc> i have to go :\ 21:03 < mnemoc> cu * 21:05 < rxr> cu 21:21 < valentin> "Vorbis decode is computationally simpler than mp3, although it does require more working memory" 21:21 < valentin> http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/vorbis-spec-intro.html 21:23 < valentin> ^- can't believe that 21:25 < valentin> ok, there is not much difference between ogg123 and mpg123 on files with comparable bitrates 21:26 < valentin> both utilize between 3.5% and 4.0% cpu 21:27 < rxr> there is also the integer only theora decoder ... 21:27 < rxr> I think we have no package yet ... 21:28 < valentin> perhaps they mean "less complex implementation than mp3" 21:33 < rxr> they mean in theory - and the ogg encoder is not yet optimized ... 21:33 < rxr> there is a new interger only encoder for e.g. embedded use .. 21:33 < rxr> maybe it put's less load on your iBook .. 21:33 < rxr> especially with our tiny FPU unit 21:34 < valentin> rxr s/en/de ? 21:35 < rxr> ? 21:35 < valentin> decoder 21:36 < rxr> yep 21:53 < rxr> ooo for mac is 155MB ... !?! 21:54 < rxr> 3317 root 15 0 119m 99m 4536 S 25.8 15.9 2:43.25 mol 21:54 < rxr> 2221 root 15 0 89052 43m 8708 S 15.9 7.0 2:37.07 X 21:55 < rxr> osx downloading ooo ... 21:59 < rxr> with the download window with the spinig progress bar hidden: 21:59 < rxr> 3317 root 15 0 119m 99m 4536 S 13.9 15.9 3:59.71 mol 21:59 < rxr> 2221 root 16 0 89052 43m 8708 R 11.9 7.0 3:37.77 X 22:12 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org today: 51.37 MB yesterday: 27.55 MB the day before: 1.79 MB 22:46 < CIA-9> rene * r6685 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/stone_mod_install.sh: * added keyboard mapping selection as first step during the installation 22:46 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 22:46 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:52 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 23:02 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 23:02 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:07 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit ["leaving"] 23:10 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #t2 23:29 < rxr> coold README: 23:29 < rxr> cool even: 23:29 < rxr> Please don't use the NDIS driver loader cludge instead of our driver. 23:29 < rxr> For an incredible number of reasons against it, please see 23:29 < rxr> http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ndis_cludge.html 23:29 < rxr> (for a start: our driver now supports AMD64, PowerPC, MIPS and of course x86 23:29 < rxr> -- now please try to do that with NDIS loader "solutions", ok?) 23:33 < CIA-9> rene * r6686 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): 23:33 < CIA-9> * removed {l,s}trace as well as libelf and joe form the bootdisk 23:33 < CIA-9> * cleaned up the terminfo and keyboad layout extraction and added 23:33 < CIA-9> xterm-new as well as all the needed kbd include files so loading 23:33 < CIA-9> the keymaps actually works now 23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: whatd 23:48 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you run to get your acx s.th. driver built? just make ? --- Log closed Mon Feb 21 00:00:29 2005