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00:00 < Postal> ...??
00:00 < rxr> 1024x768-1280x1024
00:00 < rxr> quite large
00:00 < rxr> with my farthers LCD ;-)
00:00 < Postal> lots of room
00:01 < rxr> father even
00:01 < rxr> yeah
00:01 < rxr> initially I just wanted to use the CRT2 output to drive the LCD
00:02 < rxr> unfortunatly X as usual is too buggy and just does crazzy stuff when I config it to not drive the CRT1 (aka LCD on my iBook) and just use CRT2
00:02 < rxr> X is that crappy - my oh my ..
00:02 < rxr> every time I want to do s.th. non-standard I feel like I should better start coding my editor and the ueber windowing system ...
00:02 < jsaw> Y
00:03 < rxr> there is a Y and it does not fill my needs ...
00:03 < rxr> screen #0:
00:03 < jsaw> of course not, not enough developer mass behind it
00:03 < rxr>   dimensions:    2304x1024 pixels (636x271 millimeters)
00:31 < rxr> an LCD is nice
00:31 < _Ragnar_> yes
00:31 < _Ragnar_> that sounds like a very big one
00:31 < rxr> good that I will sit in front of it in this "gust" room for the next days ;-)
00:32 < rxr> nope - not too big 1280x1024
00:32 < _Ragnar_> oh
00:32 < rxr> no idea how many inches - maybe 19 or so ...
00:32 < rxr> it's a ViewSonic s.th.
00:33 < rxr> (II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: VSC  Model: 4319  Serial#: 16843009
00:33 < rxr> ^- tells X
00:33  * _Ragnar_ just wondered about the 2304x1024 res.
00:33 < rxr> dual head
00:33 < rxr> with my iBook display
00:33 < _Ragnar_> ooh;) neat
00:33 < rxr> I only want the external connector - but X has too many bugs just driving it alone
00:33 < rxr> so I'm forced to dual head
00:34 < rxr> I placed debugging this on my TODO ...
00:34 < rxr> damn radeon driver
00:34 < _Ragnar_> dual head has its advantages, too
00:34 < rxr> how much time I already wasted debugging this crappy X code ... :-(
00:34 < _Ragnar_> :/
00:35 < rxr> sure - but on the desk I want to use the LCD - not to search windows on my iBook display ...
00:35 < _Ragnar_> *g*
00:36 < rxr> + the video ram wasted for the first head ...r
00:38 < rxr> this damn cherry keyboard my dad has,includes too many special keys ... 
00:38 < rxr> quite annoying ...
00:56 < rxr> hm - manually disbling all of the quite low technology implemented translations of links one can strip down it quite a bit
00:56 < rxr> ah - no my fault
00:56 < rxr> compiled without graphics ..
00:56 < _Ragnar_> g*
00:57 < _Ragnar_> *g*
00:58 < rxr> actually it saves a few hundred kB
00:58 < rxr> I guess the rest are included fonts ...
01:00 < rxr> hm
01:00 < rxr> with this dual head config
01:00 < rxr> mplayer does not detect the correct aspect ration ...
01:00 < rxr> -n
01:05 < rxr> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1520316 Feb 24 01:00 font_include.o
01:05 < _Ragnar_> quite a bit;)
01:18 < rxr> ok - links down to 1.4MB
01:18 < rxr> (on PowerPC)
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02:15 < mnemoc> re!
02:36 < _n0n3> wb
03:09 < mnemoc> *yawn*
03:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6779 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * changed system.init to set `hostname` before running rockplug
03:11 < CIA-9> amery * r6780 /trunk/package/base/runit/rocknet_runit.sh: * fixed typo on runit's rocknet module
03:12 < CIA-9> amery * r6781 /trunk/package/network/udhcp/rocknet_udhcp.sh: * fixed udhcp's rocknet module to use `hostname` only if available
03:53 < _n0n3> :)
04:08 < CIA-9> amery * r6782 /trunk/misc/archive/Update.sh: * improved Update.sh to show better guesses when the package doesn't exist
04:09 < _n0n3> You are having fun mnemoc?
04:10 < mnemoc> nope, i'm just fixing an installation of for a client before starting a new for another
04:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6783 /trunk/package/base/runit/djb-config: * fixed runit's djb-copy to be able to replace on runtime
04:11 < mnemoc> do i know you none?
04:11 < _n0n3> so that router is giving trouble huh?
04:12 < mnemoc> no, these are {samba,qmail}-ldap servers
04:12 < _n0n3> oh. Very well.
04:13 < _n0n3> and yes you know me.
04:13 < _n0n3> i apolagize for been so rude, Good day mnemoc, how are you this evening?
04:14 < mnemoc> fine, but i bit worried for a lost friend
04:14 < mnemoc> s/for/by/
04:15 < _n0n3> lost friend?
04:15 < mnemoc> a guy from .cr who seems to have died on his vacations
04:16 < _n0n3> Miguel ?
04:16 < mnemoc> yep, Miguel Angel
04:17 < _n0n3> busy guy, thats about it.
04:18 < mnemoc> i have been waiting his final selinux patches for weeks
04:19 < _n0n3> yeah me too.
04:19 < mnemoc> :p
04:33 < CIA-9> amery * r6784 /trunk/package/network/ipsvd/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
04:33 < CIA-9> * updated ipsvd (0.9.7 -> 0.11.0
04:33 < CIA-9> * changed ipsvd bincimap patches to patch bincimap12
04:34 < CIA-9> amery * r6785 /trunk/package/base/socklog/socklog.desc: * updated socklog (1.5.0 -> 2.0.1)
04:36 < CIA-9> amery * r6786 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap/bincimap.conf: * adapted bincimap.conf to let bincimap 1.3.3 build
05:06 < mnemoc> gn8 _n0n3 
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08:46 < jeru> moin
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08:55 < rxr_> re
08:55 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:58 < mipe> hi rxr
09:00 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/
09:00 < rxr> ^- is empty?
09:00 < mipe> partly empty,menu is showing
09:50 < mipe> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne-expert:
09:50 < mipe> 231 builds total, 231 completed fine, 0 with errors.
09:56 < rxr> :-)
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12:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/gcc/2-gcc-error.bz2
12:04 < mipe> could someone take a look at this
12:05 < mipe> i dont know where the error is and i dont see any visible errors,just outputs "No 2-gcc.log file" error
12:15 < mipe> also i get this error on bootdisk target
12:15 < mipe> Creating binary package file for ncurses.
12:15 < mipe> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ncurses.tar.bz2
12:15 < mipe> tar: lib/libcurses.a: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
12:15 < mipe> tar: lib/libform.a: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
12:15 < mipe> etc...
13:17 < mnemoc> moin
13:18 < mnemoc> mipe: can you see on build/$config-* where do those point to? (symlinks)
13:23 < mipe> libcurses.a points to libncurses.a
13:23 < mipe> but shouldnt it be usr/lib and not lib/
13:24 < mipe> could you take a look at the gcc-error log? i dont seem to find the cause of error...
13:24 < mnemoc> yep
13:24 < mipe> back later /me shopping
13:24 < mnemoc> .a are moved to usr/lib on postinstall
13:24 < mnemoc> cu
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13:31 < mnemoc> hi mtr
13:32 < mtr> hi mnemoc
13:44 < mtr> mnemoc: you committed a lot of pkg updates in the last days
13:44 < mnemoc> nah
13:44 < mtr> i guess this will saturate my dsl port this afternoon
13:44 < mnemoc> hehe
13:45 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/ <--- look at the graph
13:45 < CIA-9> amery * r6787 /trunk/package/network/clockspeed/t2_fixes.patch: * changed clockspeed patch to use /var/state instead of /var/lib
13:45 < mnemoc> last days have been weak
13:46 < mtr> mnemoc: do not get me wrong, i am impressed by the work you all are doing
13:46 < mnemoc> :p
13:46 < mtr> do you know if _Ragnar_ is still working on uclibc?
13:46 < mnemoc> afaik yes
13:47 < mtr> i remember that he some automatic parse-config mechanism, but it not committed, yet
13:48 < mtr> i meant: he talked about an improvement for this parse-config-9 stuff
13:52 < mnemoc> yes, i heard that too
13:52 < mnemoc> have you experienced problems with current?
13:53 < mtr> i have three more packages added to the current implementation, do not know if i should commit this
13:53 < mtr> and some patches for uclibc and one patch for new pkg
13:54 < mnemoc> can you publish them for review?
13:54 < mtr> where do you want them for review, to ml?
13:55 < mnemoc> http?
13:55 < mnemoc> just to take a quick look
13:56 < mtr> there was a website for publishing temporary irc stuff, but i do not remeber the addess -(
13:56 < mtr> sthg like dustbin.org ...
13:57 < mnemoc> mail them then :p   with [RFC][PATCH] as prefix
13:57 < mtr> ok
13:57  * mtr shortly away bbl
13:57 < mnemoc> cu
13:59 < CIA-9> amery * r6788 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Base/tools.all: * changed mnemosyne to use clockspeed instead of ntpd
14:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6789 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * registered uid 63 for taiclock user (clockspeed)
15:34 < mtr> re
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16:06 < mipe> mnemoc:did you have time to watch the gcc error log?
16:08 < mnemoc> not now :\
16:10 < mipe> about the ncurses,on creating package(mine,tar) it uses flist for files,right?
16:10 < mipe> flist has some .a files on /lib while they actually are in /usr/lib
16:11 < mnemoc> yes
16:11 < mnemoc> flist -> .tar -> .gem
16:12 < mnemoc> maybe there is a bug on flist processor (at the end of Build-Pkg)
16:12 < mipe> its at functions?
16:12 < mnemoc> no
16:12 < mnemoc> Build-Pkg
16:13 < mipe> ah yes,ofcouse :)
16:14 < mnemoc> :)
16:45 < mipe> hmm,my bootdisk build doesnt work under qemu
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18:36 < CIA-9> amery * r6790 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/pkg_openldap_post.conf: * fixed heimdal/openldap - build without threads support
18:49 < _Ragnar_> moin
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20:07 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
20:07 < rxr> re
20:07 < _Ragnar_> hi :)
20:07 < rxr> but /me already crawling into bed - too tired
20:07 < _Ragnar_> so ... how do I modify kernel config when I do Emerge-Pkg linux24 for example?
20:08 < rxr> ouhm
20:08 < rxr> right now onlyin the normal Config menu for the kernel - not that comfortable 
20:09 < _Ragnar_> yea
20:09 < rxr> regarding the flist .a it might be my flist post procesing of static libs that does not alter the flist ...
20:09 < mipe> hey rxr
20:10 < _Ragnar_> flist has some .a files on /lib while they actually are in /usr/lib <-- didn't mnemoc commit the patch to remove those from the flist?
20:10 < mipe> btw. if i have p4 as optimization it should enable proper CONFIG_ in kernel
20:10 < mipe> ?
20:10 < mipe> and x86-64 in stage 5 :)
20:11 < mipe> and anyone use gnome here? mine is stuck no panels,menus,etc.. showing up
20:11 < _Ragnar_> watch in the console you started X in for errors
20:11 < _Ragnar_> likely you forgot a shared lib
20:11 < mipe> didnt notice any errors there... have to check again
20:12 < mipe> ah lots of warnings
20:13 < mipe> unable to load panel stock icon '<panel>'
20:13 < mipe> replace <panel> with many panel names
20:18 < mnemoc> re
20:20 < _Ragnar_> re mnemoc 
20:22 < mipe> mnemoc:does syne target build kernel diffrently than generic?
20:23 < mipe> kernel build doesnt set CONFIG_PENTIUM4 while it should...
20:24 < mipe> and SMP is off too
20:24 < mnemoc> i do nothing to kernel config, it's T2's default
20:24 < mnemoc> i just installed a P4/HT with mnemosyne
20:25 < mnemoc> mipe: look at /boot/kconfig_
20:25 < mnemoc> *
20:25 < mipe> they are set to N
20:25 < mnemoc> oh
20:25 < mnemoc> that wasn't me
20:26 < mipe> yep,i know :)
20:26 < mipe> just install syne to my laptop
20:26 < mnemoc> my CONFIG_SMP is yes
20:26 < mnemoc> don't forget to include my changes to udhcp and runit
20:27 < mipe> had some problems with kernel,allways paniced when entering runit stage 2,fixed by copying kernel from beta3 cd
20:27 < mnemoc> i had a bug on my supervised udchp/ppp
20:27 < mnemoc> oh
20:27 < mnemoc> aren't you building mnemosyne from trunk?
20:27 < mipe> yep
20:45 < mipe> finally some progress on amd64 build,on stage 5 and builded already 32bit glibc,was afraid it will fail like always. so far 0 errors :)
20:46 < mnemoc> :D
20:53 < _Ragnar_> kewl :)
20:53 < CIA-9> amery * r6791 /trunk/misc/tail/ (. parse-config): * introduced 'tail' misc module, in a very basic form. more info on http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?TailFormat
20:54 < _Ragnar_> on building of linux26: (!)
20:54 < _Ragnar_> depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.21-rc1-rock/modules.dep for writing
20:54 < CIA-9> amery * r6792 /trunk/package/base/runit/parse-config: * improved runit's parse-config to use .tail files as 'tail' init declarations
20:54 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: mtr wanted to commit some patches for uclibc but he was waiting for you
20:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: does /lib/modules/2.4.21-rc1-rock/ exist?
20:55 < _Ragnar_> that's not the point
20:55 < _Ragnar_> it's compiling 2.6
20:55 < _Ragnar_> this is the acx modules, as far as I can see
20:55 < mnemoc> oh
20:55 < _Ragnar_> also:
20:55 < _Ragnar_> *** Warning: "__guard" [/TOOLCHAIN/src.linux26.1109272914.12004.fad8824d/acx100-0.2.0pre8_plus_fixes_45/src/acx_usb.ko] undefined!
20:55 < mnemoc> damn damn damn!
20:56 < mnemoc> are you crossbuilding?
20:57 < _Ragnar_> no
20:57 < _Ragnar_> just normal uclibc build
20:57 < mnemoc> :(
20:57 < _Ragnar_> what does mtr want to commit?
20:57 < mnemoc> no idea
20:57 < mnemoc> some patches for uclibc and for some packages using it
20:58 < mnemoc> i asked him to mail the patches
20:58 < mnemoc> but, nothing yet
20:58 < _Ragnar_> I'd say he should go ahead, or if he wants me to look over the patches just mail 'em to me;)
20:58 < mnemoc> :)
21:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: can you try to find the uname -r call on acx100?
21:00 < CIA-9> amery * r6793 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (clockspeed-clockspeed.tail clockspeed-taiclockd.tail): * added runit/clockspeed init data in 'tail' format
21:01 < _Ragnar_> uhm
21:01 < _Ragnar_> shouldn't we mark it as broken instead?:)
21:01 < _Ragnar_> a kernel module shouldn't be compiled with stackguard
21:21 < mnemoc> re
21:27 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: if you, who have the src.linux26, don't fix it, i'll have to :\
21:27 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: do you have SSP enabled on that build?
21:33 < rxr> mnemoc: acx100 does still use uname for s.th. ?
21:35 < mnemoc> it seem so
21:35 < rxr> soem details I could use to track=?
21:35 < rxr> fielname or what ?
21:35 < mnemoc> i have 2.6.10-dist running here..... <_Ragnar_> depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.21-rc1-rock/modules.dep for writing
21:36 < mnemoc> it seems acx is calling depmod it self
21:55 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: yes I do
21:56 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: on gcc/parse-config:25 add linux26 and linux24 :)
21:56 < _Ragnar_> ?
21:56 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: to disable ssp for those packages
21:57 < _Ragnar_> ooh
21:57 < _Ragnar_> but the standard kernel doesn't have a problem with it
21:58 < mnemoc> uhm
22:20 < CIA-9> rene * r6794 /trunk/package/network/acx100/postlinux.conf: * fixed acx100 to not run depmod
22:21 < rxr> so - me in bed
22:21 < rxr> cu
22:21 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. patch untest, but ...
22:23 < mipe> what was the chile mirror? mirror i'm using doesnt have dhcp and orig doesnt either
22:24 < mipe> oh nvm
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22:29 < mnemoc> mipe: t2.geeks.cl might be working
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22:53 < lars> hi, at the moment I am installing -beta3 isos on my ibook. Because of a data corruption on the 2nd cd I was not able to install some important packages (e.g. linux*). I would be happy if a do not need to download the complete 2nd cd one more time. Is there a place were I can find the *.gem files to download?
22:54 < lars> rxr, valentin: Can I find the isos somewhere on grum (exactcode.de) to extract the *.gems?
22:55 < mnemoc> .gem-s? i doubt. maybe an rsync server, but i'm not sure
22:57 < lars> I thought, they might be somewhere on exactcode.de, where I have a local account. At least the isos I would expect somewhere there, which I could mount locally and get the gems out.
22:57 < lars> but it seems that rxr and valentin are not online at the moment?
22:58 < mnemoc> rene went to sleep half an hour ago
23:00 < lars> ok, then I will take a look around on exactcode.de by myself and if I do not find anything, I have to download the whole 2nd cd one more time, since with the current installation I am not even able to boot, and since its my only computer...
23:03 < lars> bye.
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23:06 < CIA-9> amery * r6795 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/qmail.conf: * fix qmail to not abort build on 'updates'
23:27 < CIA-9> amery * r6796 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/ (config.in qmail-ldap.conf qmail.conf qmail.desc): * added qmail-ldap (20041201) option to qmail
23:29 < CIA-9> amery * r6797 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/ (MTA.qmail-ldap.choice MTA.qmail-ldap.conf): * added qmail-ldap as possible MTA for mnemosyne
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