--- Log opened Sun Mar 06 00:00:36 2005
00:05 < mnemoc> how hard can be to configure apt to work for us?
00:07 < rxr> no idea
00:07 < rxr> but I think I do not want apt ...
00:07 < mnemoc> what do you want?
00:07 < rxr> a way more lightweight tiny thing ..
00:08 < rxr> but of course you are free to try out apt ...
00:08 < valentin> re
00:08 < rxr> I will not stop you ...
00:08 < rxr> hi valentin
00:08 < rxr> how comes you are around on #t2 so often these days ... ;-)
00:08 < valentin> michael schumacher returned into his box wo qualifying
00:09 < rxr> hm ?
00:09 < valentin> rxr: i'm here almost every day
00:09 < rxr> I mean talking ...
00:09 < valentin> only i do not talk that much
00:09 < mnemoc> rxr: not yet
00:09 < mnemoc> rxr: but we need something transparent and easy for lusers
00:10 < rxr> yep
00:10 < valentin> rxr: tetex 3.0 installed on your box
00:10 < valentin> ?
00:10 < rxr> my working target is named synchronicity ...
00:11 < rxr> ? ??
00:11 < rxr> valentin: my hadraufinix ... ?
00:11 < rxr> ah - the ? belonged to the last line ...
00:11 < rxr> well - which box ?
00:11 < valentin> yep
00:11 < rxr> on the hadraufinix not yet ...
00:11 < rxr> but this is not a problem at all ... ,-)
00:12 < valentin> i just ask if you have the executable somewhere
00:12 < rxr> why do you ask ?
00:12 < rxr> on my Ibook I have it ...
00:12 < mnemoc> me too
00:12 < valentin> can you check if latex links to pdflatex ?
00:13 < rxr> # ldd /usr/bin/latex libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x0fefe000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x0fe6d000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0fe41000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0fd16000) /lib/ld.so.1 (0x30000000)
00:13 < valentin> links == ln -s ,)
00:13 < rxr> ah ..
00:13 < rxr> lars saied s.th. like that
00:13 < rxr> # l /usr/bin/latex
00:13 < rxr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Feb 19 17:12 /usr/bin/latex -> pdfetex
00:13 < rxr> ack
00:13 < rxr> valentin: why do you ask ?
00:14 < valentin> can it still create .dvi then ?
00:14 < rxr> yep
00:14 < rxr> works as usual
00:14 < rxr> only some corner cases changed ...
00:14 < rxr> lars knows some details ...
00:15 < valentin> well, there were rumors about "This binray only creates .pdf files instead of .dvi files - even when I'm
00:15 < valentin> passing the -output-format=dvi option."
00:15 < rxr> no
00:15 < rxr> latex file.tex creates .dvi on my iBook ...
00:15 < valentin> ok, then it is harmless to emerge it :)
00:16 < mnemoc> what do you use for tex? emacs?
00:16 < valentin> yes
00:16 < rxr> $ ls rechnung.*
00:16 < rxr> rechnung.aux rechnung.dvi rechnung.log rechnung.tex
00:16 < valentin> xemacs
00:16 < valentin> or xemacs-beta :)
00:16 < rxr> I had no problem with my usual stuff ...
00:16 < rxr> valentin: I kicked the xft patch from xemacs-beta in trunk
00:17 < rxr> all the latest version ahve been very instable
00:17 < rxr> for the last two there is no xft patch avail
00:17 < valentin> :(
00:17 < rxr> and this xemacs mainrainer started his own xft version (because the other long maintained patch sucks) which does work even less ...
00:17 < rxr> so xemacs-beta is now the pure 21.5 without xft patch ...
00:18 < valentin> then i have to continue working with xemacs -nw
00:18 < rxr> I mailed the xft patch author (the xft patch that used to work) if he still works on it ... but we have to day
00:18 < rxr> I consider dropping xemacs ...
00:18 < rxr> maybe I'll start my own one this years ...
00:24 < valentin> looks like MSC will start from the last row today
00:24 < rxr> package/gnome2# grep DEP xchat/xchat.cache nautilus/nautilus.cache metacity/metacity.cache gdm/gdm.cache gnomemeeting/gnomemeeting.cache totem/totem.cache gdesklets/gdesklets.cache libgnomeprintui/libgnomeprintui.cache gnome-panel/gnome-panel.cache | sed 's,/.*\[DEP\] , ,' | tr ' ' '\n' | sort -u | while read in ; do [ -d $in ] && echo $in ; done | wc -l
00:24 < rxr> that gives 43 packages ...
00:25 < mnemoc> :)
00:25 < rxr> I think I'll inject those instead of the 165 selected in desktop right now ...
00:25 < rxr> poor mans deps ..
00:25 < rxr> valentin: what does the dep resolver core for t2 do *g*
00:25 < rxr> just joking - can wait a bit ...
00:25 < mnemoc> rxr: take a look into mnemosyne's minimalistic gnome selection too
00:27 < valentin> rxr: we need to specify what is the toolchain and then we go ...
00:27 < rxr> we need to sell avision-osx ... ,-)
00:27 < mnemoc> :)
00:28 < valentin> rxr: we have some trouble with the i18n - this could be once again a "works in this program, but not in that" thing
00:28 < rxr> f*ck
00:28 < rxr> some manual set bundle base s.th. tweak ...
00:29 < valentin> you do not know how to get the resource bundle (except messing with the exact path) ?
00:29 < rxr> have not messed with that stuff right now ...
00:29 < valentin> i'll find out
00:29 < rxr> ... | wc -l
00:29 < rxr> 45
00:30 < rxr> -beta4 desktop will be far smaller *g*
00:30 < rxr> and I will be in the bed in some seconds ...
00:30 < valentin> rxr: as a hotfix we could hardcode the path to the DS bundle
00:30 < rxr> yeah - ack - fine with me ...
00:31 < CIA-2> rene * r7086 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed gnome14 - we select the compat stuff explicitly below
00:32 < mnemoc> why do you want gnome14?
00:32 < mnemoc> xmss?
00:32 < mnemoc> xmms*
00:32 < rxr> yep ..
00:32 < rxr> only the bare minimum glibc gtk+ and friends ..
00:32 < rxr> but _I_ want noting from that ...
00:33 < jeru_> good n8 rxr ... have to sleep too ... good night folks
00:33 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru_
00:33 < rxr> n8 jeru_
00:33 < jeru_> :D
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00:56 < rxr> ouhm
00:58 < rxr> I think I start migrating desktop to a more dynamic s
00:58 < rxr> election now ...
00:58 < rxr> that is do the grep in cache on the fly ...
01:00 < valentin> on the fly ?
01:00 < rxr> I just commit
01:00 < rxr> grep as above ...
01:01 < rxr> Committed revision 7087.
01:01 < CIA-2> rene * r7087 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
01:01 < CIA-2> * filtered desktop target's gnome pages on the fly doing a quick
01:01 < CIA-2> look into the cached deps ...
01:02 < rxr> so - down from nearly 9xx packages to 613 active packages
01:03 < rxr> 972 active on my iBook with the old desktop selection ...
01:03 < rxr> valentin: do we want to ship abiword and gnumeric in the default ExactDesktopCD ?
01:04 < valentin> kerstin used to use abiword sometimes
01:04 < valentin> i do not need any of them
01:04 < valentin> but i guess many ppl will use gnumeric
01:05 < rxr> so I fear I have to add this bloat ...
01:05 < rxr> valentin: have you looked into the diff ?
01:05 < valentin> i did not say that
01:05 < valentin> which diff ?
01:05 < valentin> r 7087 ?
01:06 < rxr> yep
01:06 < rxr> 625 active with gnuermic and abiword ...
01:07 < CIA-2> rene * r7088 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * readded gnumeric and abiword - some user might demand it ...
01:07 < rxr> gcc-4.0-20050305 is now available
01:09 < rxr> 700 builds total, 241 completed fine, 1 with errors.
01:09 < rxr> so bed ..
01:09 < rxr> cu all
01:13 < valentin> cu
01:14 < rxr> valentin: if you have some seocnds and nothing to do you could svn up and take a look at the 6xx selected packages for a desktop build and do some notes what you thing could be left away for normal workstations base installations ...
01:14 < rxr> but only if you feel to ...
01:14 < rxr> sleep well
01:20 < valentin> ok
01:27 < valentin> well, you put gnuplot back :)
01:41 < valentin> a quick grep after my 20 most used non-basic applications looks fine
01:43 < valentin> hm, my dsl line was dead for 30 seconds
01:43 < valentin> but there was no reconnect
01:44 < valentin> and i have a lag like hell
01:45 < valentin> but there is no traffic on the line
01:45 < valentin> so, need some sleep now
01:45 < valentin> gn8
01:46 < valentin> rxr: the 'on the fly thing' is evaluated multiple times when navigating in scrips/Config
01:47 < valentin> rxr: oh - i missread the 'left away' - i was looking for missing packages *g*
01:49 < valentin> well - do we need all the shells ?
01:50 < valentin> ok, i do not want to start another flamewar ,)
01:53 < valentin> do we need unshield ?
01:53 < valentin> s/do we/who/
02:00 < valentin> or what about esoteric window managers ? like ctwm ? anyone ? flames ?
02:04 < valentin> and why do we need amule _and_ xmule ?
02:04 < valentin> ok, same could be said about plotting tools (but i often need the old gnuplot)
02:08 < valentin> ouhm - i took the wrong packae list
02:09 < valentin> but the things above can be outsorted, if they are in the diet list
02:09 * valentin needs some sleep
02:09 < valentin> cu later
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02:53 < mnemoc> re
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03:58 < CIA-2> amery * r7089 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (27 files in 25 dirs): * renamed generic xfce-4.conf to the standard xfce4-conf.in form
03:59 < CIA-2> amery * r7090 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (25 files in 25 dirs): * changed xfce4 generic config call to be standard
04:06 < CIA-2> amery * r7091 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (25 files in 25 dirs): * taken maintainship of xfce4 packages
04:24 < CIA-2> amery * r7092 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-battery-plugin/ (. xfce4-battery-plugin.desc): * added xfce4-battery-plugin (0.2.0)
04:25 < CIA-2> amery * r7093 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-netload-plugin/ (. xfce4-netload-plugin.desc): * added xfce4-netload-plugin (0.3.1)
04:27 < CIA-2> amery * r7094 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systemload-plugin/ (. xfce4-systemload-plugin.desc): * added xfce4-systemload-plugin (0.3.6)
04:27 < CIA-2> amery * r7095 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-wavelan-plugin/ (. xfce4-wavelan-plugin.desc): * added xfce4-wavelan-plugin (0.4.1)
04:28 < CIA-2> amery * r7096 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-weather-plugin/ (. xfce4-weather-plugin.desc): * added xfce4-weather-plugin (0.4.1)
04:31 < CIA-2> amery * r7097 /trunk/package/textproc/sablot/ (. sablot.desc): * added sablot (1.0.2)
04:35 < CIA-2> amery * r7098 /trunk/package/mail/nullmailer/ (no-deprecated.patch nullmailer.desc): * updated nullmailer (1.00RC7 -> 1.00)
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05:09 < CIA-2> amery * r7099 /trunk/package/develop/libmspack/ (. libmspack.desc): * added libmspack (20040308)
05:43 < CIA-2> amery * r7100 /trunk/package/x86/acpid/acpid.init: * improved acpid.init to use D_sbindir
05:48 < CIA-2> amery * r7101 /trunk/package/x86/apmd/apmd.conf: * changed apmd to use make{,inst}opt instead of overwriting $MAKE
05:56 < CIA-2> amery * r7102 /trunk/package/x86/sonypid/sonypid.conf: * changed sonypid to honor use $prefix
05:57 < CIA-2> amery * r7103 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/bin86.conf: * changed bin86 to use makeinstopt to set prefix
06:03 < CIA-2> amery * r7104 /trunk/package/x86/icc/ (icc.conf parse-config): * improved icc to use $prefix
06:04 < CIA-2> amery * r7105 /trunk/package/x86/lilo/ (lilo.conf stone_mod_lilo.sh): * changed lilo to use hooks
06:06 < CIA-2> amery * r7106 /trunk/package/x86/microcode_ctl/microcode_ctl.desc: * added [T] fields for microcode_ctl
06:13 < CIA-2> amery * r7107 /trunk/package/x86/ (cpuid/cpuid.conf grub/grub.conf x86info/x86info.conf): * cleaned grub, x86info and cpuid using hooks
06:14 < CIA-2> amery * r7108 /trunk/package/x86/cpuburn/cpuburn.conf: * cleaned cpuburn using $sbindir
06:14 < CIA-2> amery * r7109 /trunk/package/x86/nasm/nasm.desc: * fixed nasm [A]'s email format
06:41 < CIA-2> amery * r7110 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * updated afterstep (2.00.00 -> 2.00.03)
07:01 < CIA-2> amery * r7111 /trunk/package/x11/gentoo/gentoo.desc: * updated gentoo (0.11.51 -> 0.11.54)
07:24 < CIA-2> amery * r7112 /trunk/package/x11/aterm/ (aterm.conf aterm.desc): * cleaned aterm [U] and .conf to use var_append
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07:29 < CIA-2> amery * r7113 /trunk/package/x11/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * cleaned blackbox, fvwm and afterstep
07:29 < CIA-2> amery * r7114 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.conf: * removed abandoned set -x on fox config
07:30 < CIA-2> amery * r7115 /trunk/package/x11/ctwm/ctwm.conf: * improved ctwm using hooks
08:02 < CIA-2> amery * r7116 /trunk/package/gnome14/ (56 files in 27 dirs):
08:02 < CIA-2> * renamed global gnome-14 config file to gnome-14-conf.in
08:02 < CIA-2> * changed gnome14/* packages to source it on [O]
08:05 < CIA-2> amery * r7117 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 8 dirs): * adapted gnome-14 packages which don't live on gnome14/ to use the new common gnome-14 config file (gimp-print, sylpheed, gpa, beaver, gcombust, gentoo, imlib and cinepaint)
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09:44 < mipe> hmm,my automake is missing config.guess :(
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09:49 < jeru> moin
10:32 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:32 < rxr> moin
10:32 < jeru> moin rxr
10:38 < mipe> hi jeru,rxr
10:38 < jeru> hi mipe ... how about your eyes :) ?
10:39 < mipe> :),not that bad anymore
10:39 < rxr> ouhm - was is with your eyes ?
10:40 < mipe> i got a sun tan lines around my eyes while i was fishing,i got sun tan lines because wearing sun glasses
10:40 < rxr> ah - so no sight problem - puh ...
10:41 < mipe> yep, but it was funny look...
10:43 < jeru> mipe: hope you "catched" at least some fishes :)
10:43 < mipe> jeru:few but very small ones...
10:44 < jeru> ahh ... I think you did ice fishing
10:44 < mipe> yep
10:45 < mipe> its fun,good change to normal day routines. spending entire day at outdoors
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10:46 < jeru> client crashed :(
10:47 < rxr> ooops
10:47 < jeru> mipe: go fishing is really nice ... but I don't go anymore ... at least not in germany, because you can't really eat the fishes
10:48 < rxr> jeru: not ?
10:48 < jeru> not really
10:49 < mipe> why not?
10:49 < jeru> but ... if I visit my uncle in sweden, I go fishing every day
10:49 < jeru> because the enviromental pollution
10:50 < jeru> the fish isn't very tasty
10:51 < mipe> last summer i caught a fish that had worm with 2 times the length of the fish. a parasite(?) or so. didnt eat that fish but was fun catching it
10:53 < jeru> yeah that was a wise decission ... but a parasite is something natural ;) ...
10:57 < CIA-2> rene * r7118 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added needed and not detected thru dependencies libgomecups
10:59 < CIA-2> rene * r7119 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed howtos from the desktop target - another 30MB saving
11:05 < rxr> "According to the German IT news site Heise, german Telekom and the german railway corporation Deutsche Bahn have formed an alliance to equip the ICE high speed trains with WLAN access (Babelfish translation), as well as the stations those trains arrive at. This offer is aimed at business travellers, and will first be introduced on routes frequented by those ("travel time is usable time")."
11:05 < rxr> 701 builds total, 469 completed fine, 1 with errors.
11:05 < rxr> [5] base/linux26
11:05 < jeru> :D
11:05 < rxr> ^- and that is already fixed and just not yet rebuild to track other lnux-header update regressions sooner
11:06 < mipe> 273 builds total, 197 completed fine, 0 with errors.
11:06 < mipe> doing minimal desktop for amd64
11:06 < mipe> well actually syne target
11:09 < jeru> yeah ... one of the pros of syne is, that it will build quite fast ... but as we see rxr is allready shrinking desktop :)
11:09 < jeru> hehe
11:12 < rxr> decoder for Apple Lossless Audio Codec files (ALAC)
11:12 < rxr> http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html
11:12 < rxr> so - showering breakfast ...
11:18 < mipe> rxr:when www2 is in "production" will you enable drupals rss feeds?
11:29 < rxr> sure - I could alrady do now (after breakfast)
11:32 < rxr> so - now I'm @ some regression to be fixed *g*
11:32 < rxr> but breakfast first ...
11:32 < jeru> good apetite
11:55 < rxr> 702 builds total, 474 completed fine,
12:06 < jeru> rxr: so desktop target builds quite fine :)
12:06 < rxr> well - soon I have to deal with a lot of depenceny regressions I fear ...
12:06 < rxr> especially since I just disabled quite a lot perl-* ones ...
12:07 < rxr> 596 active packages
12:07 < jeru> ah ok
12:07 < rxr> down from 63x last night
12:07 < rxr> but at least I have a l33t workstation target thereafter
12:09 < jeru> bdb doesn' t build anymore on my system :/
12:09 < CIA-2> rene * r7120 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
12:09 < CIA-2> * more desktop package fine tuning - some adds (libid3tag, ...) many
12:09 < CIA-2> removes (perl-*, gok, ...)
12:15 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/bdb_upgrade.patch
12:15 < rxr> why do you want to update it ?
12:15 < mipe> old one doesnt compile on amd64
12:15 < rxr> oh
12:15 < rxr> and why not ?
12:15 < mipe> and i rather upgrade it than patch it
12:16 < rxr> as far as it was in the past the even numbered are development trees - not to be meant for production use ...
12:16 < rxr> I would rather like to keep the 4.2
12:16 < jeru> rxr: yeah ... if you remember we had that topic some times ago ... I used 4.3 version without any problems
12:16 < rxr> any advantages ?
12:17 < jeru> btw. it's considerd as stable version
12:17 < rxr> hm
12:18 < jeru> perhaps we should think about it for the release ... what do you think
12:18 < rxr> since we want to update gnome to 2.10, too ...
12:19 < jeru> ... so you're not quite sure ..
12:19 < jeru> but packages like openldap will benefit
12:22 < jeru> should I test it to build a desktop target with bdb43?
12:23 < rxr> that would be nice - but wait until it builds with zero errors on my side
12:24 < jeru> ok ... you mean the desktop target
12:25 < rxr> you wrote desktop target first ...
12:26 < CIA-2> rene * r7121 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/compile.patch: * fixed ploticus for my current desktop build (strchr became a macro ?)
12:26 < rxr> you can test with whatever halfy big target you want ... *g*
12:26 < rxr> 671 builds total, 453 completed fine
12:29 < CIA-2> rene * r7122 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added the hicolor gnome base theme to the desktop target
12:29 < rxr> 597 active packages
12:29 * rxr lunch
12:55 < jeru> after rebuilding bdb deps it builds again fine ... but anyway I'll test bdb 4.3
13:07 < CIA-2> rene * r7123 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed busybox for the desktop target and removed 2nd gok entry
13:12 < CIA-2> rene * r7124 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed stay shells added arm repository to the desktop target
13:15 < CIA-2> rene * r7125 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * comment cleanups and added gnuplot to the desktop target
13:18 < rxr> hm - .11 scheduling seems to have quite some regressions ...
13:19 < rxr> with excessive scrolling in xterms - that is the X process running a lot and high disk load the gui becomes where sluggish - this was not the case with .10 ..
13:24 < rxr> has someone a t2 with firefox installed handy ?
13:28 < jeru> yep
13:29 < rxr> does search work in it ?
13:30 < jeru> nope
13:30 < rxr> Strg-C ...
13:30 < rxr> ok - I have an idea what do modify ..
13:31 < rxr> jeru: do you use firefox?
13:31 < jeru> sometimes
13:32 < jeru> why
13:32 < rxr> that you did not complain about anunfunctional search ..
13:32 < rxr> ,-)
13:32 < jeru> :) as you see I don't use it often ... but mea culpa
13:34 < rxr> ok - just wondered that noone screamed ..
13:35 < jeru> rxr: what's is your fastest method replacing glibc :/
13:35 < jeru> mean new version
13:35 < rxr> when it is not a vital system I usually just Emerge it ...
13:35 < rxr> if it is a prebuild it on another system and make sure mine.static is available ... *g*
13:35 < jeru> and if it is a vital system?
13:36 < jeru> ok
13:36 < rxr> so /me a bit away ...
13:36 < jeru> byebye
13:54 < mipe> uhm superkaramba should work?
13:54 < mipe> build i mean
13:55 < mipe> no rule to make target karamba.moc
15:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/kdemultimedia.patch
15:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/directfb.patch
15:05 < mipe> those will fix package builds on x86-64
15:05 < mipe> few data type fixes
16:01 < rxr> 13:25 < rxr> I built firefox from source - all works well - only the search is not working - any idea?
16:01 < rxr> 14:17 < FaeLLe> install the binary :p
16:01 < rxr> lol
16:03 < CIA-2> rene * r7126 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf:
16:03 < CIA-2> * disabled the typeaheadfind for firefox (does not work and renders
16:03 < CIA-2> the search unfunctional) and did some more cleanup along the lines)
16:05 < rxr> oh my god:
16:05 < rxr> >> What should I set in host.def for an athlon64 build? The stuff I put
16:05 < rxr> >> into it for my laptop is
16:05 < rxr> >>
16:05 < rxr> >> #define DefaultGcc2i386Opt -O3 -march=pentium3 -msse2 -mmmx -msse
16:05 < rxr> >> -mfpmath=sse,387 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -mno-align-stringops
16:05 < rxr> >> -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -funroll-all-loops -fsched-spec-load
16:05 < rxr> >> -fprefetch-loop-arrays -ftracer -fmove-all-movables --param
16:05 < rxr> >> max-gcse-passes=4
16:05 < rxr> >
16:05 < rxr> >
16:05 < rxr> >
16:05 < rxr> > It's spelled "DefaultGcc2AMD64Opt" on amd64.
16:05 < rxr> >
16:05 < rxr> > In general if your CFLAGS take more than one 80 column line to display, you're asking for trouble.
16:05 < rxr> In Gentoo - bigger == better. ;]
16:36 < CIA-2> rene * r7127 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added scons and distcc to the desktop target
16:38 < rxr> mnemoc:
16:38 < rxr> mnemoc: Binc IMAP 1.2.12final (Stable)
16:39 < rxr> "Novell and OSNews are sponsoring the memory reduction project led by Novell's Ben Mauer by providing bounties to developers to help to clean up bloat in GNOME and related programs."
17:00 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
17:01 < Postal> hey all
17:01 < rxr> hey Postal !
17:01 < Postal> Sorry been real busy latley
17:01 < Postal> but here i am
17:01 < jeru> hi postal
17:01 < Postal> been having a bit of a problem with the config script..
17:01 < Postal> hi jeru
17:01 [Users #t2]
17:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw_] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ rxr ]
17:01 [ CIA-2 ] [ jeru ] [ mipe ] [ mtr ] [ Postal] [ valentin]
17:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
17:02 < jeru> what type of problem do you have?
17:03 < Postal> mv: cannot stat `src/rockdialog.bin.6004': No such file or directory
17:03 < Postal> Creating configuration script.
17:03 < Postal> T2 2.1.0-rc1 configuration ...
17:03 < Postal> unknown returncode: 127
17:03 < rxr> outsch
17:03 < Postal> there is ALOT more output...
17:03 < rxr> never saw this ...
17:03 < rxr> rm -rf src
17:03 < rxr> and try again ...
17:03 < Postal> same error..
17:03 < Postal> and i just svn up not 10 min ago
17:03 < rxr> hm - can you post the wohle output somewher?
17:04 < Postal> yeah, but i have to pipe it to a file
17:04 < Postal> does it have a log somewhere?
17:04 < rxr> is it more than a cut'n paste screen =
17:04 < rxr> ? even
17:05 < Postal> yeah... my terminal does not show it all... but all of the errors are undeclared errors..
17:06 < rxr> you can add 2>&1 > log
17:06 < Postal> ie misc/rockdialog/yesno.c:101: error: `KEY_RIGHT' undeclared (first use in this function)
17:06 < rxr> to get it into a file
17:06 < Postal> i know
17:06 < rxr> what base system is that ?
17:06 < Postal> suse 9.1
17:06 < rxr> no ncurses-devel package installed ?
17:06 < Postal> hmmm not sure
17:07 < rxr> KEY_RIGHT is ncurses
17:07 < Postal> well lets check
17:07 < Postal> no no ncurses-devel installed, but it is now
17:08 < Postal> ;-) now it works
17:08 < rxr> good ,-)
17:08 < rxr> Postal: x86-64 got a lot of changes the last days ...
17:08 < rxr> I hope it builds for you ...
17:08 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2
17:08 < Postal> will gcc build, or will it still not find crti.o?
17:09 < rxr> we'll see
17:09 < Postal> im going to do a minimal-desktop
17:09 < rxr> IIRC in gcc are still a few things to be merged from mipe's x86-64 work
17:10 < rxr> mipe: do you have some updated patch against t2-trunk:HEAD ?
17:10 < Postal> well well see in about 40 min
17:11 < Postal> have we gotten grub to build in 64 bit yet?
17:11 < rxr> yes - it should now
17:11 < rxr> glibc32 stuff works these days ,-)
17:11 < Postal> well, so its built in 32 bit and not 64..?
17:11 < rxr> only grub, yes
17:12 < rxr> as the grub authros wants it ...
17:12 < Postal> now default compiler will use lib64 unless -ia32 flag is passed correct?
17:12 < rxr> yes - we now use lib64 for all packages where possible ...
17:13 < Postal> what im asking is if i compile something by hand, do i have to pass an option to make sure it builds in 64 bit?
17:13 < rxr> but the option is -m32 - do not think there is a ia32 one ...
17:14 < rxr> nope - default is 64bit - and -m32 for 32bit output
17:14 < Postal> i thought that it was ia 32.. hmm what am i confusing it with..?
17:15 < rxr> ia32 is the name of the arch ...
17:15 < Postal> ah ok
17:15 < Postal> so im not totally losing my mind?
17:15 < rxr> yep - just did man gcc - no ia32 option - only -m32 as expected
17:15 < rxr> nope
17:15 < Postal> ok
17:17 < Postal> well, hopefully it will build without too many errors
17:17 < rxr> yes - hopefully ...
17:17 < Postal> and off we go
17:17 < Postal> hey is gnome 2.9 in the repository yet?
17:17 < mipe> re
17:18 < rxr> nope - but planned before -rc1
17:18 < rxr> that is to be packaged in the next week ...
17:18 < mipe> rxr:did you see the url for few patches?
17:19 < rxr> ouhm - no
17:19 < Postal> what about gcc 4.0... there are some good cvs snapshots out there :-D
17:20 < rxr> none does built a whole system right now ...
17:20 < rxr> and there are still linux kernel miscomilation reports ...
17:20 < Postal> ouch
17:20 < mipe> 16:04 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/kdemultimedia.patch
17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/directfb.patch
17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> those will fix package builds on x86-64
17:20 < mipe> 16:05 < mipe> few data type fixes
17:20 < rxr> any major compiler release means big internal changes - and thus you do not want a whole system compiled with it that early ...
17:21 < mipe> 18:10 < rxr> mipe: do you have some updated patch against t2-trunk:HEAD ?
17:21 < rxr> however I start the week as soon as it is reasonable - guess in 2-3 weeks - but it will not be get in T2 2.1 - but the soon to be started 2.2 line
17:21 < mipe> uhm gcc patches are not in HEAD i think
17:21 < mipe> and glibc i think
17:22 < rxr> nope - but could you rediff your work so we get a diff relative to all the merging I did ... ?
17:22 < mipe> Error logs from system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-mnemosyne-expert:
17:22 < mipe> [5] kde/superkaramba [5] multimedia/mplayer
17:22 < mipe> [5] network/smbc [5] develop/itcl
17:22 < mipe> 274 builds total, 270 completed fine, 4 with errors.
17:22 < mipe> rxr:yep will do
17:23 < mipe> theres still lot of work at x86-64,mainly the packages that doesnt use --libdir and installs 64bit to lib,and i'd really like them to be at lib64
17:24 < rxr> I can imagine
17:24 < rxr> you could just slowly work on it once the major stuff compiles all fine ...
17:24 < Postal> thats a good percentage though
17:24 < Postal> 270 out of 274
17:26 < CIA-2> rene * r7128 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * more diet-desktop selection fine tuning
17:31 < CIA-2> rene * r7129 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
17:31 < CIA-2> Mika Pesu :
17:31 < CIA-2> * fixed directfb and kdemultimedia for x86-64
17:31 < rxr> mipe: you rm'ed the previous t2-diff ?
17:32 < mipe> rxr:yep,i'll make patch per package,easier to manage
17:32 < mipe> rxr:will be up in few mins
17:32 < rxr> oh - cool
17:33 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-desktop:
17:33 < rxr> [5] e17/efsd
17:33 < rxr> [5] e17/evidence [5] kde/kde-i18n-de
17:33 < rxr> [5] kde/kde-i18n-it [5] kde/kde-i18n-es
17:33 < rxr> [5] kde/kde-i18n-fr [5] kde/superkaramba
17:33 < rxr> 680 builds total, 500 completed fine, 8 with errors.
17:33 < mipe> those kde-i18n-* are from unsermake?
17:33 < mipe> oh i get superkaramba failing too,no target for karamba.moc
17:35 < rxr> yeah - kde-i18n-* is unsermake
17:35 < mnemoc> moin!
17:36 < rxr> make: *** No rule to make target `karamba.moc'. Stop.
17:36 < rxr> mon mnemoc
17:37 < rxr> mipe: and with unsermake they fail due to errors in the xml files ... :-(
17:42 < mnemoc> patchable errors?
17:42 < rxr> they are so ugly - I did not looked into them that long ...
17:44 < mnemoc> does xml usually are a missisng /
17:44 < mnemoc> xml errors*
17:45 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/
17:45 < mipe> i'll check if any other patch is missing,but after shower
17:45 < jeru> ahh .. moin mnemoc
17:46 < mnemoc> hi jeru
17:46 < mnemoc> how is it going?
17:46 < CIA-2> rene * r7130 /trunk/package/kde/ (kdelibs/kdelibs.conf qt/qt.conf):
17:46 < CIA-2> * removed exporting a KDEDIR with a old version number attaced
17:46 < CIA-2> * fixed qt to not use such long version on the profile.d file
17:46 < jeru> building targets ...
17:46 < jeru> :)
17:46 < rxr> mipe: nice
17:46 < mnemoc> jeru: not installing?
17:46 < jeru> too
17:47 < jeru> have to update servers in cameroon
17:47 < jeru> and the connection is a little bit lame
17:48 < mnemoc> "servers in cameroon" sounds to me as exotic as "servers in chile" for you :)
17:48 < jeru> hmmm ... nope ... isn't so exotic
17:48 < jeru> :)
17:49 < jeru> but if i think what I'm replacing (fedora :/) it's quite exotic :D
17:50 < mnemoc> :)
17:51 < rxr> mnemoc: if you want your T2 firefox to be able to search - you could rebuilt it now ..
17:52 < mnemoc> i saw your patch
17:52 < mnemoc> but my firefox searches..... what did you meaned?
17:52 < mnemoc> well seaches sometimes
17:53 < Postal> mnemoc, meaned is not a word... mean is both present and past tense...
17:54 < mnemoc> thanks
17:54 < Postal> what do you mean, what did you mean
17:54 < Postal> ;-)
17:54 < Postal> I make up spanish words all the time :-D
17:54 < mnemoc> it's good to have a native speaker :)
17:55 < Postal> i just had a test on irregular pretirete tense verbs acutally :-/
17:55 < rxr> mnemoc: here it never searched - enterng a text and pressing enter or clicking the search button did nothing at all
17:56 < mnemoc> i have to like some times on the frame first
17:56 < mnemoc> s/like/click/
18:00 < Postal> rxr, does t2 mplayer support wma files by default?
18:00 < rxr> some I think
18:01 < rxr> depends on the codec ...
18:01 < rxr> some wma and wmv files do not play or not yet correctly ..
18:01 < Postal> well what codec are installed on default..?
18:01 < rxr> ouhm - I do not know the IDs of them off hand ...
18:01 < Postal> ic
18:01 < Postal> are they in the repository though?
18:01 < rxr> maybe on x86 some more works because of windows dll reuse possibilities ..
18:01 < rxr> sure - the normal open source ones in ffmpeg, mplayer and co ...
18:02 < rxr> and the windows ones in the w32codescs package ...
18:02 < Postal> is w32codecs in the repository?
18:02 < rxr> yes
18:03 < Postal> Do you thin i could build this minimal-desktop build in 24 hours?
18:03 < rxr> the minimal desktop or my normal desktop ?
18:03 < Postal> minimal-desktop template
18:03 < Postal> miminal w/ xorg
18:03 < Postal> + a desktop
18:03 < rxr> that could build in less than 24h - why do you ask ?
18:03 < Postal> lol
18:03 < Postal> just curious
18:04 < Postal> i would like to get into t2 and play with it :-)
18:04 < Postal> what is the default desktop that is built with that template?
18:05 < rxr> I think no environment at all - maybe blackbox or so ...
18:05 < Postal> i will build gnome.. this takes some time though.. IIRC
18:06 < rxr> yes - just Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2 should work mostly ...
18:07 < Postal> it all depends on how well this builds lol
18:08 < Postal> does the kernel get built in another stage other than stage 1?
18:08 < CIA-2> rene * r7131 /trunk/package/kde/superkaramba/ (superkaramba.conf superkaramba.desc): * did some superkaramba hacking / fixing - but marked it O - unfixable
18:08 < rxr> Postal: yes
18:09 < mipe> svn: Failed to add file 'package/contrib/directfb/dfb_types.patch': object of the same name is already scheduled for addition
18:09 < mipe> :)
18:09 < mipe> how do i revert local add?
18:09 < mipe> i did svn add to get it into svn diff
18:09 < rxr> svn revert bla/blubs
18:10 < rxr> but if the file is already added why do you want to mess with it ?
18:11 < mipe> it was an svn add to include the file into svn diff,and svn up gave that error,after you added it into HEAD
18:11 < rxr> hm - oh
18:11 < rxr> damn - dump - svn ...
18:11 < rxr> svn revert should do ...
18:11 < mipe> yep that fixed it
18:12 < CIA-2> amery * r7132 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/bincimap12.desc: * updated bincimap12 (1.2.11final -> 1.2.12final)
18:13 < rxr> mipe: you like t2 and will stick longer to it ?
18:13 < mipe> rxr:ofcourse,i like this stuff.
18:13 < rxr> ok - I give you write acces ...
18:13 < mnemoc> :)
18:14 < rxr> mipe: could you mail me a htpasswd -n your-name password hass for server injection ?
18:14 < rxr> rene@exactcode.de
18:14 < mnemoc> hash*
18:14 < mipe> yep, but i'm new to svn,hopefully i dont mess things up :(
18:14 < rxr> hash - yes ,-)
18:15 < mnemoc> if you mess something we can revert it :)
18:15 < rxr> you should not be able to destrox the repository from your side ...
18:15 < rxr> mipe: in your font packages could use use [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] ... so it works on powerpc64 and co, too?
18:16 < mipe> yep
18:17 < mnemoc> berlios is slow as hell today
18:17 < jeru> what do you do with berlios ?
18:18 < jeru> i mean on
18:18 < mnemoc> trying to get the name on the new maintainer of noteedit
18:18 < jeru> ahh ... thougt that they are hosting a mirror
18:19 < rxr> mipe: the xfce stuff needs no checkin - I properly fix it to use pkgprefix ...
18:19 < mnemoc> uhm?
18:20 < mipe> so whats the schedule here,how many days i got to get working amd64 desktop? :)
18:21 < mipe> or is the wiki timetable still correct
18:21 < rxr> I don't think so ..
18:21 < rxr> -beta4 wed next week - -rc1 1 1/2 weeks later
18:21 < mipe> ah plenty of time
18:21 < rxr> -final some time next month ...
18:21 < jeru> mipe: seems to depend on, if you'll go to school ;)
18:22 < mipe> ah crap,forgot school,was suppose to return my work on user interface course
18:22 < Postal> well moment of truth, gcc stage 1 building now
18:23 < rxr> mnemoc: was your uhm to xfce ?
18:23 < rxr> look into r7133
18:24 < mnemoc> CIA?
18:24 < CIA-2> rene * r7133 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/xfce4-conf.in:
18:24 < CIA-2> * converted xfce4 to pkgprefix and thus fixed it also for lib64
18:24 < CIA-2> architectures
18:24 < mnemoc> ah, lib64
18:25 < mnemoc> i thought i have already converted it to pkgprefix
18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: user name mipe or mperu ?
18:25 < rxr> mpesu even
18:26 < rxr> or mikap ..
18:26 < rxr> hm - our naming scheme is quite messed ... :-(
18:26 < mnemoc> amery -> mpesu
18:26 < mnemoc> valentin, rene -> mika
18:26 < rxr> yeah ...
18:27 < mnemoc> let him choose :)
18:27 < rxr> ok - so the new policy:
18:27 < rxr> real name
18:27 < mnemoc> forget it
18:27 < rxr> name first letter of surename
18:27 < jeru> so I've to change too
18:27 < rxr> or the other way round
18:27 < Postal> are there known problems compiling gcc with parallel make in stage 1?
18:28 < rxr> mipe: what do you want mika mikap or mpesu ? *g*
18:28 < rxr> no
18:28 < mipe> mika?
18:28 < rxr> mipe: your other changes (aside the just fixed xfce) and the mention font path are fine
18:29 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory
18:29 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
18:29 < Postal> make[2]: *** [32/libgcc_s_32.so] Error 1
18:29 < rxr> just some (one or two) others should already be applied
18:29 < Postal> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117815799.29340.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc'
18:29 < Postal> make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2
18:29 < Postal> rm gcc.pod
18:29 < Postal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117815799.29340.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc'
18:29 < Postal> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
18:29 < jeru> ahh .. can somebody give me access to www2 ?
18:30 < rxr> mipe: only the bdb should wait some days in my opinion to get a wider testing before a release tag ...
18:30 < rxr> jeru: you mean no password arrives on your side right ?
18:30 < jeru> yep
18:30 < mipe> rxr:yep
18:31 < rxr> mipe: name decision ?
18:32 < mipe> rxr:mika works for me....
18:32 < rxr> jeru: have you tried to enter a new uesr name ?
18:32 < rxr> I see no pending user in the admin interface ...
18:32 < rxr> mipe: ok - user mike inserted
18:32 < rxr> try to commit a file ...
18:33 < jeru> will try again
18:33 < rxr> and do not forget to read the commit message layout guidelines ...
18:33 < rxr> that is basically * what you did ...
18:33 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/svn-commit-tutorial.html
18:33 < mnemoc> i don't like the 'second' level of commit messages
18:33 < mipe> uhm,if i do svn commit,it will ask for the commit message,like in cvs?
18:33 < mnemoc> sure
18:33 < rxr> yes
18:33 < rxr> and for the passwd
18:34 < rxr> most probably for root
18:34 < rxr> just hit enter then and it will ask for the real user name ...
18:34 < rxr> it fiers up your $EDITOR if set - vi otherwise ... ,-)
18:34 < rxr> fires up even ...
18:37 < CIA-2> mika * r7134 /trunk/package/x86/grub/ (cvs-01-03-2005.patch grub.conf): * fix x86-64 segfault while running embed
18:37 < mipe> ok commited,now someone revert as its not yet tested
18:38 < mipe> :)
18:38 < mipe> it builds but not sure if it really fixed the segfault
18:39 < Postal> any ideas on that gcc crti.o error?
18:40 < mipe> postal:try with this patch http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/gcc.patch
18:40 < rxr> Postal: most probably fixed by mipe's gcc patch ...
18:40 < rxr> mipe: I think the 2nd part is already in svn
18:40 < Postal> how do i apply the patch?
18:40 < rxr> wget http://...
18:41 < rxr> patch -p0 < filename
18:41 < rxr> 3.4.3-amd64.patch
18:41 < Postal> from in the gcc source directory
18:41 < rxr> Postal: after applying rm package/base/gcc/multidir-check.patch
18:41 < rxr> no - from the top level t2 dir
18:42 < mipe> yep the 2nd part is in svn
18:43 < CIA-2> amery * r7135 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/noteedit.desc: * updated noteedit (2.7.3 -> 2.7.4)
18:43 < rxr> wow - a new noteedit version .-)
18:43 < Postal> ok patch applied and multidir-check.patch removed
18:43 < Postal> im going to build again now
18:45 < rxr> maybe you need to rebuild o-gcc ...
18:45 < rxr> 0-gcc even ...
18:45 < Postal> do you think i should?
18:45 < Postal> or only if it fails
18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: new maintainer
18:46 < rxr> yes, you should ...
18:46 < Postal> ok.. what is the command to schedual a rebuild again?
18:47 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg -delete gcc
18:47 < rxr> or so ..
18:47 < mnemoc> -remove
18:47 < mnemoc> -delete don't remove the files
18:47 < rxr> ,-)
18:47 < rxr> well - no delte needed ...
18:47 < rxr> just remove is enough
18:47 < Postal> ok
18:47 < rxr> and the stage 0 files are in no flist anyway (IIRC)
18:48 < jeru> hmmm ... cyrus-sasl2 doesn't build
18:48 < mnemoc> why?
18:48 < jeru> mv: cannot stat `.deps/allockey.Tpo': No such file or directory
18:48 < Postal> ok gcc i building from stage 0 again
18:48 < jeru> mnemoc:
18:48 < jeru> make[2]: *** [allockey.lo] Error 1
18:48 < jeru> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
18:48 < jeru> NOPARALLEL ?
18:48 < Postal> :-)
18:49 < mnemoc> try it but i doubt
18:49 < jeru> ok
18:49 < Postal> Its never that simple ;-) but simple is the best place to start lol
18:49 < mnemoc> :)
18:52 < Postal> well stage 0 built ok as usual, lets all cross our finger for stage 1 lo;
18:52 < Postal> lol*
18:53 < Postal> cause ive been sitting at this error for a week or so now
18:53 < Postal> mipe, if this works, then your my new best friend lol
18:54 < jeru> mnemoc: cyrus-sasl2 is building with [F] NOPARALLEL
18:54 < mnemoc> good :)
18:54 < jeru> should I commit ?
18:55 < mnemoc> if that fixed it, sure
18:56 < jeru> yeah .. thought you wanted to hack around ;)
18:56 < mnemoc> i'll go to shower, if you want to hack much better
18:57 < jeru> don't swimm away :D
18:57 < mnemoc> :p
18:59 < CIA-2> chris * r7136 /trunk/package/security/cyrus-sasl2/cyrus-sasl2.desc: * package flagged NOPARALLEL
19:02 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory
19:02 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
19:02 < Postal> make[2]: *** [32/libgcc_s_32.so] Error 1
19:02 < Postal> make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117817930.30282.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc'
19:02 < Postal> make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2
19:02 < Postal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/t2/t2-trunk/src.gcc.1117817930.30282.0x7f0200/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc'
19:03 < Postal> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
19:03 < Postal> errm
19:05 < mipe> 0-gcc?
19:05 < Postal> 1-gcc 0 built fine'
19:06 < Postal> it first reported a waiting for unfinished jobs, so i NOPARALLEL flagged it, got the exact same error, without the one line waiting for unfinised jobs
19:09 < Postal> any ideas?
19:10 < mipe> hmm
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19:23 < mipe> hmm no idea whys that. i always get error on 2-gcc when having 4 parallel jobs, so i changed it to 2(not a good number) but works,you could try to disable it,setting it to 0 and rebuild
19:23 < mnemoc_> ia32?
19:23 < mipe> x86-64
19:24 < mnemoc_> odd
19:24 < mipe> postal:i'll check if i get an error at 1-gcc while building bootdisk
19:25 < Postal> mipe are you saying that prehaps if i rebuild 0 with NOPARALLEL also i might fix the problem
19:26 < mipe> hmm, just the 1-gcc rebuild
19:26 < Postal> mipe already done that..
19:27 < mnemoc_> i found almost unbelivable that gcc can't be built parallel
19:28 < Postal> you found it unbelivable, or you find it unbelivable?
19:28 < mnemoc_> find* :)
19:28 < mnemoc_> present
19:28 < Postal> ;-)
19:28 < mipe> mnemoc:it can be,just something wierd with jobs stuff,at 2-gcc i got an error something like:delete file,access the deleted file style
19:29 < mipe> since 0 and 1 stages are built fine with parallel jobs, so i'm thinking with something wierd with make
19:30 < Postal> i can build gcc 0 just fine... its just 1 where the problem comes in
19:30 < mnemoc_> gcc-0 is very minimalistic
19:35 < mipe> postal whats the error again? whats before the ld failure
19:36 < Postal> ill pull it up for you 1 om
19:36 < Postal> mom
19:37 < Postal> /mnt/t2/t2-trunk/build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory
19:37 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
19:38 < mipe> and before that
19:38 < Postal> thats quite long, but i could post it if you like
19:38 < Postal> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC -DHAVE_SYSLOG -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -shared -nodefaultlibs -Wl,--soname=libgcc_s.so.1 -Wl,--version-script=libgcc/32/libgcc.map -o 32/libgcc_s.so.1.tmp -m32 libgcc/32/_muldi3.o libgcc/32/_negdi2.o libgcc/32/_lshrdi3.o libgcc/32/_ashldi3.o libgcc/32/
19:38 < Postal> _ashrdi3.o libgcc/32/_cmpdi2.o libgcc/32/_ucmpdi2.o libgcc/32/_floatdidf.o libgcc/32/_floatdisf.o libgcc/32/_fixunsdfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixunssfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixunsdfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixdfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunssfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixsfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixxfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunsxfdi.o libgcc/32/_floatdixf.o libgcc/32/_fixunsxfsi.o libgcc/32/_fixtfdi.o libgcc/32/_fixunstfdi.o libgcc/32/_floatditf.o libgcc/32/_clear_cache.o libgcc/32/_enable_execute_s
19:38 < Postal> tack.o libgcc/32/_trampoline.o libgcc/32/__main.o libgcc/32/_absvsi2.o libgcc/32/_absvdi2.o libgcc/32/_addvsi3.o libgcc/32/_addvdi3.o libgcc/32/_subvsi3.o libgcc/32/_subvdi3.o libgcc/32/_mulvsi3.o libgcc/32/_mulvdi3.o libgcc/32/_negvsi2.o libgcc/32/_negvdi2.o libgcc/32/_ctors.o libgcc/32/_ffssi2.o libgcc/32/_ffsdi2.o libgcc/32/_clz.o libgcc/32/_clzsi2.o libgcc/32/_clzdi2.o libgcc/32/_ctzsi2.o libgcc/32/_ctzdi2.o libgcc/32/_popcount_tab.o libgcc
19:39 < Postal> /32/_popcountsi2.o libgcc/32/_popcountdi2.o libgcc/32/_paritysi2.o libgcc/32/_paritydi2.o libgcc/32/_stack_smash_handler.o libgcc/32/_divdi3.o libgcc/32/_moddi3.o libgcc/32/_udivdi3.o libgcc/32/_umoddi3.o libgcc/32/_udiv_w_sdiv.o libgcc/32/_udivmoddi4.o libgcc/32/unwind-dw2.o libgcc/32/unwind-dw2-fde-glibc.o libgcc/32/unwind-sjlj.o libgcc/32/gthr-gnat.o libgcc/32/unwind-c.o -lc && rm -f libgcc_s_32.so && if [ -f 32/libgcc_s.so.1 ]; then mv -f
19:39 < Postal> 32/libgcc_s.so.1 32/libgcc_s.so.1.`basename `; else true; fi && mv 32/libgcc_s.so.1.tmp 32/libgcc_s.so.1 && ln -s 32/libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s_32.so
19:42 < mipe> thats all before the error?
19:43 < Postal> no, theres hundreds of lines lol
19:43 < mipe> can you post error log somewhere?
19:43 < Postal> i dont have anywhere...
19:43 < Postal> i could email it i suppose
19:45 < mipe> sure pmika@japo.fi just bzip it or something.
19:45 < Postal> ok
19:49 < Postal> ok i sent the err log
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20:01 < mipe> well it doesnt find the 32bit libs but why....
20:01 < Postal> cause glibc32 has not compiled yet...
20:01 < mipe> :)
20:01 < mipe> you may need to pkgsel X glibc32 it
20:02 < Postal> ...?
20:02 < mipe> i noticed that for some reason it isnt included on default
20:02 < mipe> grep glibc32 config/ 20:02 < mipe> is it O or X
20:03 < mnemoc_> glibc32 should be autoenabled
20:03 < mipe> yep it should
20:04 < Postal> but how do i enable it
20:04 < mipe> so it was O?
20:04 < mipe> ./scripts/Config -cfg system
20:05 < mipe> and on expert theres package selection thingy
20:05 < Postal> i dont know, i cannot get the config command to work
20:05 < mipe> ups thats grep glibc32 config/system/packages
20:05 < mnemoc_> grep glibc config/system/packages
20:06 < Postal> O -1---5---- 101.600 base glibc32 2.3.4 / base/library 0
20:06 < Postal> but it did not build in stage 0 lol
20:06 < mipe> enable it through config
20:06 < mipe> its disabled for some reason
20:06 < mnemoc_> what target are you using?
20:06 < Postal> -cfg system
20:07 < mnemoc_> that's 'config' not target
20:07 < mipe> but i'm going to do some school stuff,back tomorrow
20:07 < mnemoc_> cu mipe
20:07 < Postal> generic w/ minimal-desktop
20:07 < mipe> cu
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20:08 < jeru> postal: btw you can choose whatever name you want e.g. "./scripts/Config -cfg postals64bithorse"
20:08 < mnemoc_> school.... my daughter enters? school next year. /me feels old
20:09 < jeru> poor mnemoc
20:09 < jeru> :D
20:09 < Postal> jeru, i like it simple
20:09 < mnemoc_> -cfg a
20:09 < jeru> yeah ... but wait if'll build more than one system ;)
20:09 < Postal> what do i add in selection rules to enable glibc 32 for stage 0, 1 and 5
20:09 < mnemoc_> if you don't specify one, it's called 'default'
20:10 < jeru> ohh I forgot
20:10 < jeru> ;)
20:10 < mnemoc_> Postal: you can't change the stages with rules
20:10 < jeru> I just like T2 :)
20:10 < Postal> umm well i dont want to change the stages, i just want to enable to package for this template
20:11 < mnemoc_> Postal: Config -> Expert -> Package Selection 'X glibc32'
20:11 < Postal> that will enable it?
20:11 < mnemoc_> yep
20:11 < jeru> yep
20:30 < Postal> gcc built with parallel make after glibc32 was installe
20:30 < Postal> d
20:30 < Postal> now on to ncurses
20:31 < Postal> does this build all of the development packages also... ie for gcc and ncurses and whatnot, or do those have to be compiled speratly?
20:31 < rxr> re
20:32 < mnemoc_> rxr: any idea why glibc32 was not autoenabled for postal's generic minimal-desktop?
20:35 < rxr> maybe due to minima-desktop ...
20:36 < rxr> hm - it is in the minimal-desktop.in selection ..
20:36 < rxr> .no it is not ...
20:36 * rxr blnded again
20:39 < rxr> so - commited ..
20:39 < rxr> Postal: could you test
20:39 < CIA-2> rene * r7137 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/ (benchmark.in minimal-desktop.in minimal-xorg.in minimal.in): * updated the package selection templates to include glibc32
20:40 < mnemoc_> Postal: that means, svn up, and remove glibc32 rule on your pkgsel
20:45 < rxr> 678 builds total, 569 completed fine,
20:45 < rxr> soo nice to have a way more minimal desktop ,-)
20:45 < rxr> hey - it seems to build in one day on my athlon ...
20:45 < rxr> nice
20:46 < Postal> mnemoc_, why not just let it go, and it will be fine?
20:46 < rxr> yeha - let it go ...
20:46 < mnemoc_> :)
20:46 < rxr> I do one more tweak anyway ..
20:47 < jeru> :)
20:49 < Postal> in stage 2 now
20:50 < rxr> ,-)
20:51 < Postal> here comes gcc stage 2
20:52 < CIA-2> rene * r7138 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
20:52 < CIA-2> * removed explicit glibc and gcc hardcoding from the package
20:52 < CIA-2> preselection templates - used LIBC and CC instead
20:52 < CIA-2> * removed libc groupping from glibc32 but flagged it as LIBC to include
20:52 < CIA-2> it via LIBC package selection
20:52 < mnemoc_> .oO
20:52 < CIA-2> amery * r7139 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/postgres.ask: * add PostgreSQL add-in for mnemosyne
20:52 < Postal> rxr, what will that do?
20:53 < rxr> Postal: make sure glibc32 is selected when you do the next fresh build using a package preselection template ...
20:56 < CIA-2> amery * r7140 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Base/linux.all: * added glibc32 to mnemosyne
20:56 < rxr> lol
20:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: what about using LIBC ?
20:57 < mnemoc_> ROCKCFG_LIBC ?
20:57 < mnemoc_> +/ LIBC / { p; d; };
20:57 < mnemoc_> +/ CC / { p; d; }; ?
20:57 < mnemoc_> i dont' understand... where is that translated?
20:57 < rxr> the rules match to the wohle line as it is in config/*/packages
20:58 < rxr> and it contains all flags ...
20:58 < mnemoc_> aa... the flags
20:58 < rxr> and LIBC and CC are flags ...
20:58 < mnemoc_> i use pkgsel
20:58 < rxr> ah - ok - then stay so ...
20:59 < mnemoc_> firefox== 15:48:47 =[9]=> Building www/firefox [1.0.1 2.1.0-rc1].
20:59 < mnemoc_> == 03/06/05 16:50:55 =[9]=> Finished building package firefox.
21:00 < Postal> it took you 58min to build firefox..?
21:01 < mnemoc_> 62
21:01 < Postal> oh your right ;-)
21:01 < Postal> yeay gcc stage 2 built in stage 3 now
21:01 < Postal> just chug chug chugging right along here
21:02 < jeru> :)
21:02 < mnemoc_> :)
21:04 < rxr> Postal: not everyone has a x86-64 ...
21:04 < rxr> my iBok takes 3 hours to build firefox ...
21:04 < Postal> OMG really, i thought firefox was fairly small
21:04 < rxr> *lol* no - not really ..
21:04 < jeru> rxr: :/
21:04 < Postal> i have never actually built firefox so i would not know
21:05 < jeru> so we can establish a firefox benchmark ;)
21:05 < mnemoc_> Postal: links is a good small browser
21:05 < jeru> :D
21:05 < Postal> i like links
21:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: what do you think of links these days?
21:05 < rxr> Build [9] at 03/06/2005 from 13:38:17 to 15:40:49 CET
21:06 < rxr> Package Name and Version: firefox 1.0.1 2.1.0-rc1
21:06 < mnemoc_> _two_ hours
21:06 < rxr> yeah - ok
21:07 < rxr> long enought
21:10 < mnemoc_> i took 1h on firefox and 1:15 on lunux26
21:12 < jeru> so you're quite fast ;)
21:12 < mnemoc_> but i can't even mouse my mouse during the build on my laptop :p
21:12 < mnemoc_> move my mouse
21:13 < jeru> you don't really need one .D
21:13 < mnemoc_> :)
21:14 < jeru> as long as you have 2 hands
21:14 < mnemoc_> i have :)
21:15 < jeru> that's what I tell my windooz admin's at work quite often ;)
21:15 < Postal> !> checking for perl... no
21:15 < Postal> !> configure: error: perl is not found
21:15 < Postal> !> No 3-autoconf.log file.
21:15 < Postal> hmm sounds simple enough
21:15 < mnemoc_> aren't you on stage 2?
21:16 < Postal> stage 3
21:16 < rxr> no perl i minimal ? ...
21:16 < mnemoc_> perl should have been built
21:16 < Postal> well i could go and enable it in the package selection rules, then it will build i suppose
21:17 < mnemoc_> yes
21:17 < Postal> X perl
21:17 < mnemoc_> :)
21:17 < rxr> .oO
21:17 < mnemoc_> rxr: ?
21:17 < rxr> nvidia does not build with .11 ...
21:17 < Postal> oh silly me it would help if i downloaded it
21:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: how is linux-header build?
21:18 < mnemoc_> +going
21:18 < rxr> not too many problems
21:18 < rxr> most I have due to my stripped down desktop build ...
21:18 < rxr> ah - two presel's ahve perl5 in it ...
21:18 < rxr> *lol*
21:19 < mnemoc_> :)
21:19 < Postal> will perl not build with PARRALLEL?
21:20 < rxr> maybe not ...
21:20 < Postal> cause its flagged that way
21:20 < rxr> svn log package/perl/perl/perl.desc will tell you who did that when and why
21:21 < mnemoc_> perl^3
21:21 < CIA-2> rene * r7141 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/ (benchmark.in minimal-desktop.in): * s/perl5/perl perl/ in the package preselection templates ...
21:23 < mnemoc_> rxr: as you only use desktop, and i only use mnemosyne we don't notice that stuff :)
21:23 < CIA-2> rene * r7142 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed sjog and mysql-perl from the desktop target
21:23 < Postal> rxr, you added it on January 16th becasue of packages broken with -j* flag, and also flagged mine, pam, and picutils as well
21:26 < rxr> well - then it was ... ,-)
21:27 < Postal> yeay stage 5
21:27 < mnemoc_> :D
21:27 < Postal> this is the longest stage correct?
21:28 < jeru> yep
21:28 < mnemoc_> yes
21:28 < Postal> gcc, glibc, and kernels are built for the final time?
21:28 < rxr> yes
21:29 < rxr> unless you have too many CPU cycles and enable the rebuild stage 9 ...
21:29 < Postal> um no lol
21:29 < Postal> i dont see the point in having that option
21:30 < mnemoc_> to test the usability of the produced platform
21:30 < Postal> couldent you just boot in a test it lol
21:30 < mnemoc_> and to detect weak dependencies
21:30 < Postal> is it worth doing?
21:31 < mnemoc_> if you have tooy may free CPU cycles, sure :)
21:31 < mnemoc_> too many*
21:31 < rxr> Postal: in other words - don't mess with it ,-)
21:31 < mnemoc_> that will double your build time
21:31 < Postal> to many not too, too=also
21:31 < mnemoc_> oh
21:31 < Postal> i went to the store too...
21:31 < Postal> ;-)
21:31 < mnemoc_> i was convised of that 'usable' of 'too'
21:31 < mnemoc_> usage*
21:32 < Postal> so are most Americans
21:32 < mnemoc_> i guess my teachers were convinsed too :)
21:32 < Postal> Im British so i know...
21:32 < Postal> ;)
21:32 < mnemoc_> hehe
21:32 < mnemoc_> i'll believe you
21:33 < mnemoc_> "it's to hot" or "it's too hot" ?
21:34 < Postal> well, it depends if you belive websters dictionary(american) or Oxford (english)
21:34 < rxr> too hot
21:34 < mnemoc_> rxr: that what i thought, but Postal's "to many" confused me
21:34 < jeru> well, atm it's just cold ;)
21:35 < mnemoc_> hehe
21:35 < rxr> *lol* yeah - in germany it is ...
21:35 < rxr> too cold in DE and too hot in CL
21:35 < Postal> too hot in either case... but the Americans seem to have more usages than the Oxford dictionary...
21:35 < jeru> the Americans are allways special ones ;)
21:36 < jeru> mostly
21:36 * mnemoc_ kicks firefox updates!!! i loose all my searchengines and extensions
21:36 < Postal> lol
21:36 < rxr> like their president to rule them all ...
21:36 < jeru> don't let me think about it right now ... :|
21:37 < Postal> Just about the only thing that he has going for him are his tax policies... other than that he is an idiot
21:38 < rxr> good to hear that from an american *g*
21:38 < mnemoc_> Im British so i know...
21:38 < jeru> postal: this guy cannot read ! do you really believe that he understand something about taxes ???
21:38 < rxr> jeru: maybe he learned it in between ...
21:38 < jeru> :D
21:39 < Postal> Well i live in america.. but not by choice
21:39 * mnemoc_ remember funny movies about british guys living in america
21:39 < jeru> :D
21:39 < Postal> Well, his taxes were better than kerry's if you did the math on his policies, he was missing somthing like 10 billion dollars
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21:39 < keinek_> hi everbody
21:39 < mnemoc_> wb keinek_
21:40 < Postal> hello
21:40 < jeru> postal: call him gwb or kerry ... just the money rules !!!
21:40 < keinek_> T2 compile good in old version of Rock linux :P
21:40 < keinek_> now is compiling ...
21:40 < keinek_> :P
21:40 < Postal> prehaps we should not talk politics
21:41 < Postal> :-)
21:41 < rxr> yeah ...
21:41 < jeru> yep ... other time perhaps ;)
21:41 < mnemoc_> keinek_: good :)
21:41 < keinek_> but in the same time i download the iso's of T2
21:41 < keinek_> ha ha ha is not politics
21:41 < keinek_> in debian dont work
21:42 < keinek_> i like T2
21:42 < mnemoc_> what do you like of t2?
21:42 < keinek_> live cd's
21:42 < jeru> bad question mnemoc! ;)
21:43 < mnemoc_> :p
21:43 < rxr> .oO
21:43 < mnemoc_> is valentin dead?
21:44 < jeru> hopefully not
21:44 < mnemoc_> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de) <--- five times
21:44 < mnemoc_> six
21:44 < keinek_> how much time remaind compile the ROUTER target?
21:45 < mnemoc_> half day?
21:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
21:45 < jeru> hmmm depends on your system
21:45 < keinek_> now is in the binutils
21:45 < rxr> phoned with valentin around 20:00
21:45 < keinek_> my system is amd 1300 mhz
21:45 < keinek_> old duron
21:46 < keinek_> but real 1300
21:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: eleven failures until now
21:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: now it passed
21:46 < rxr> works here ...
21:46 < jeru> keinek: ack to mnemocs suggestion
21:46 < jeru> half a day
21:46 < keinek_> ok... i wait
21:47 < mnemoc_> svn: PROPFIND of '/gsmp/trunk/utility': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de) <--- aarg
21:47 < keinek_> what happen if the light turn off?
21:47 < mnemoc_> you can't see
21:47 < keinek_> i cant continue compiling later?
21:47 < keinek_> hahaha
21:47 < mnemoc_> yes,
21:47 < rxr> keinek_: I like this stats: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
21:47 < keinek_> click
21:48 < keinek_> Mmmmm
21:48 < mnemoc_> rock vs. t2 commit averages
21:48 < keinek_> hahaha a frag war?
21:48 < mnemoc_> :p
21:49 < keinek_> Rock never finish compile in my system
21:49 < keinek_> and nobody help me
21:49 < keinek_> but...
21:49 < keinek_> in t2
21:50 < rxr> ,-)
21:50 < keinek_> i hope that work
21:50 < jeru> so now you've a better reason for using T2
21:50 < jeru> :D
21:50 < rxr> maybe I should plot t2 vs. rock IRC stats ...
21:50 < jeru> oh shit
21:50 < keinek_> yes... all us
21:51 < keinek_> sorry again for my english
21:51 < keinek_> i like speak so much but i am dont know how.
21:52 < keinek_> in spanish i speak so so so so much :P
21:52 < jeru> I've never used rock's irc channel .... so I don't know their behavior
21:52 < keinek_> mnemoc_ knows
21:52 < jeru> as most spanish speaking people ;)
21:52 < mnemoc_> keinek_: i know
21:52 < mnemoc_> uhm
21:52 < keinek_> mnemoc_ ;)
21:52 < jeru> but I like it
21:52 < jeru> would like to speak spanish
21:53 < mnemoc_> jeru: keinek talks more than the 95% of the people :)
21:53 < keinek_> :D
21:53 < jeru> :D
21:53 < keinek_> mnemoc_, you download the sources from the wireless connection?
21:56 < mnemoc_> to update my laptop yes
21:56 < mnemoc_> i just updated firefox
21:56 < mnemoc_> but my build machine is wired
21:57 < jeru> weird :)
21:58 < jeru> mnemoc: wanna have squid syne -> propose "Caching Proxy" as desc.
21:58 < jeru> i mean into syne
22:00 < mnemoc_> ack
22:00 < mnemoc_> + dansguardin please
22:00 < mnemoc_> guardian*
22:00 < jeru> X squid X dansguardian ?
22:01 < mnemoc_> yes
22:01 < mnemoc_> imo
22:01 < mnemoc_> what do you think?
22:01 < jeru> everything fine ...
22:02 < keinek_> hahaha my computer is open for all hackers, in my issue file i put "welcome hackers" hahaha
22:02 < jeru> but never used dansguardian ...
22:02 < jeru> but seems that I have to ... :)
22:03 < keinek_> is easy add one program in the T2, i said... add one program in the scripts?
22:04 < jeru> im allready on http://dansguardian.org/
22:04 < jeru> :)
22:04 < jeru> looks quite interesting
22:08 < rxr> keinek_: adding new packages is normally very easy
22:08 < mnemoc_> i consider it necesary for a good 'Caching Proxy'
22:09 < jeru> ack
22:09 < keinek_> rxr, when i have t2 installed in my system i start play with that :)
22:10 < jeru> mnemoc: or should we use "Proxy Cache" ?
22:10 < keinek_> is posible make one live cd that have nvidia drivers with tv out, and firefox ... quake 3... etc. etc.?
22:11 < rxr> keinek_: in theory yes
22:11 < keinek_> Mmmmm
22:11 < keinek_> one LIVE DVD !
22:11 < keinek_> :P
22:11 < mnemoc_> jeru: the first sounds better to me
22:11 < jeru> ok ...
22:11 < rxr> just that the current live cd is not yet that advanced anyway ...
22:11 < rxr> if you put some work on it it is possible ...
22:12 < rxr> and I redo the livecd soon anyway ...
22:12 < keinek_> Mmmm ok, i will learn
22:13 < keinek_> mnemoc_, i dont make radio programs anymore.. sorry. Play with targets is my new hobby :P
22:14 < mnemoc_> :)
22:14 < mnemoc_> keinek_: you can make a 'multimedia desktop' target :)
22:14 < keinek_> Mmmm sounds good
22:14 < mnemoc_> and a target for your class rooms
22:15 < keinek_> my class room love windows... losers...
22:16 < keinek_> one day... they need me
22:16 < jeru> haha
22:16 < keinek_> all machines with windows 98
22:16 < jeru> ouch ....
22:16 < CIA-2> rene * r7143 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (4 files):
22:16 < CIA-2> * added semi official nvidia patches - two of them to make it build
22:16 < CIA-2> with 2.6.11
22:17 < keinek_> you know... put "con/con" in everywhere and you will see.
22:17 < mnemoc_> keinek_: it's your responsability to show them a good T2-based replacement
22:17 < rxr> windows 98? what linux distribution is it? Or is it BSD based?
22:17 < keinek_> hahaha
22:18 < CIA-2> chris * r7144 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/cachingproxy.ask: * added Caching Proxy option to mnemosyne
22:18 < keinek_> mnemoc_, live cd... is the key
22:18 < mnemoc_> nad
22:19 < mnemoc_> chris :p
22:19 < mnemoc_> mv /dev/{jeru,chris}
22:19 < jeru> :D
22:19 < keinek_> i will put in the cdrom drive... and my class room can experiment the future!
22:20 < keinek_> if my boss apear, just push reset and... windows again :P
22:20 < jeru> mnemoc: but I'm not a device! ;)
22:21 < mnemoc_> :)
22:22 < jeru> keinek: is the name of your boss bill gates ?
22:22 < jeru> or why you fear punishment? :)
22:23 < keinek_> hahaha my boss is a lammer
22:23 < keinek_> said that linux is a copy of windows.
22:23 < keinek_> he is happy with XP and norton
22:24 < jeru> let him
22:24 < keinek_> but... he paid me
22:24 < keinek_> in the day, i am a stupid teacher
22:24 < keinek_> in the night, i am .... happy.
22:24 < keinek_> :P
22:24 < jeru> so you're a kind of mutant
22:25 < jeru> :D
22:25 < mnemoc_> :D
22:25 < keinek_> YEAH! one day the world be my!
22:25 < keinek_> :D
22:26 < jeru> do you know the comic "Pinky and the Brain" ?
22:26 < mnemoc_> hehe
22:26 < keinek_> yes
22:26 < keinek_> hehe
22:26 < mnemoc_> he is more like ren and stimpy :)
22:26 < keinek_> my boss is pinky
22:27 < jeru> hmmm ... but pinky is quite lovely
22:28 < keinek_> yes... my boss too, but he like windows
22:28 < jeru> he just want to save the income of thousand "professionals" ;)
22:28 < mnemoc_> if you don't know anything different you will only think you have the 'best'
22:29 < mnemoc_> s/only/always/
22:29 < keinek_> he can't understand
22:30 < keinek_> is like the old people with the music
22:30 < keinek_> he listen blues... i like blues... and classic... rock... pop.
22:30 < keinek_> he listen only blues, and critic my music.
22:31 < keinek_> "critic" exist that word?
22:31 < keinek_> :D
22:33 < Postal> If by critic you mean critique as in to correct, or to reiew in a critical or commentary way then yes it exists
22:34 < keinek_> ok... whatever... my boss is a lammer
22:34 < keinek_> :D
22:34 < Postal> lol
22:34 < Postal> :D
22:35 < jeru> lamer
22:35 < jeru> sorry ...
22:35 < jeru> :D
22:35 < keinek_> lammer sounds better :P
22:35 < keinek_> more agresive
22:36 < jeru> haha
22:36 < Postal> haha
22:36 < Postal> uh building the toolchain takes ages lol
22:42 < mnemoc_> your ages are shorter than mine
22:43 < Postal> this is ture
22:43 < Postal> but im an impatient person
22:45 < mnemoc_> i have trees on 6 different machines so my time multiplexes asyncronous :)
22:46 < Postal> ic... i have no idea what you just said
22:46 < mnemoc_> i have 6 machines building
22:46 < Postal> building one thing or six things
22:46 < mnemoc_> each takes ages buidling
22:47 < jeru> mnemoc: we've to buid a global t2 build grid ! :)
22:47 < mnemoc_> but while i do something on one, the others build
22:47 < jeru> build
22:47 < Postal> you mean like a bittorrent for distcc?
22:48 < Postal> people might not like giving up there cpu cyles though
22:48 < Postal> yeay the toolchain has built in stage 5
22:50 < mnemoc_> distcd target ;)
22:52 < keinek_> ok dietlibc show me error
22:52 < keinek_> :(
22:52 < mnemoc_> what stage?
22:52 < keinek_> router
22:52 < keinek_> i wait for the T2 isos and will try again
22:53 < keinek_> this rock linux have months
22:53 < mnemoc_> you don't need to blame rock
22:53 < keinek_> in 3 hours i have the first iso
22:53 < mnemoc_> what stage?
22:54 < mnemoc_> router is a target not an stage
22:54 < keinek_> ahh ok
22:54 < jeru> mnemoc: do you have something against putting zope into syne -> desc: "Zope Application Server" ? But just if python is enabled!
22:55 < jeru> because it depends on it
22:55 < mnemoc_> Zope forcing Python can be better
22:55 < jeru> how can I do this?
22:55 < mnemoc_> vserver forces vlan
22:56 < jeru> ok will take a look ;) thanks
22:57 < keinek_> i dont know what stage is, sure that is the first stage
22:57 < Postal> bdb is still broken
22:58 < Postal> usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o(.fini+0x0):/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1117826902.32699.0x7f0200/glibc-2.3.4/objdir/csu/crti.S: first defined here
22:58 < Postal> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o(.data.rel+0x0): multiple definition of `__dso_handle'
22:58 < Postal> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o(.data.rel+0x0): first defined here
22:58 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:58 < Postal> make: *** [libdb_cxx-4.2.la] Error 1
22:58 < jeru> mnemoc: why do we have "wget" in vserver?
22:58 < mnemoc_> jeru: util-vserver dependency :(
22:58 < mnemoc_> keinek_: == 18:56:37 =[9]=> Building office/ooo [1.9-m82 2.1.0-rc1]. <--- translated as: at 18:56:37 the build of ooo version 1.9-m82 from office repository on stage 9
22:59 < mnemoc_> using a 2.1.0-rc1 tree
22:59 < keinek_> that 9 is the stage?
22:59 < jeru> ah okk :/ a bit strange .. isn't it ??
22:59 < keinek_> 0.28
23:00 < keinek_> [0.28 2.1.0-rc1]
23:00 < mnemoc_> jeru: i hate util-vserver dependencies
23:01 < mnemoc_> jeru: enrico is a bit mind closed
23:01 < keinek_> sorry
23:01 < keinek_> jejeje
23:01 < keinek_> stage 1
23:01 < mnemoc_> but daja77 can tell us a closer opinion
23:02 < jeru> mnemoc: #Forced: python doesn't work
23:02 < mnemoc_> it's case sensitive
23:02 < daja77> huh? about what
23:03 < mnemoc_> Enrico Scholz, from your university
23:03 < mnemoc_> how is he in real life?
23:05 < daja77> hm he never says much, on the net he focuses on technical discussions, don't see him very often
23:06 < mnemoc_> jeru: #Force: PYTHON
23:06 < mnemoc_> Forced*
23:06 < mnemoc_> daja77: ic
23:06 < jeru> that what I did ... but doesn't function either
23:07 < mnemoc_> review the cache files on src/$config/
23:08 < jeru> ack
23:08 < mnemoc_> keinek_: can you publish (http) your 1-dietlibc error log?
23:10 < keinek_> mnemoc_, how?
23:10 < mnemoc_> cp src.dietlibc.blah/ERROR_LOG ~keinek/public_html/dietlibc.err
23:12 < keinek_> ok... i minute
23:12 < keinek_> i dont have public html
23:12 < keinek_> but i can upload in one place
23:13 < mnemoc_> scp src.dietlibc.blah/ERROR_LOG keinek@your.public.place:public_html/
23:17 < keinek_> http://projects.hsol.net/red-handed/1-dietlibc.err
23:17 < keinek_> :P
23:18 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek
23:19 < keinek> Mmmmm a big log file :)
23:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: mr. dietlibc, can you look into: http://projects.hsol.net/red-handed/1-dietlibc.err plese?
23:20 < rxr> ouhm
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23:22 < rxr> disable 1-dietlibc ...
23:22 < rxr> no idea - never saw it bailing out there
23:23 < keinek> well...
23:23 < keinek> i will kick ass rock linux
23:23 < mnemoc_> keinek: don't blame rock for that
23:23 < keinek> and i will install when arrive my T2 isos.
23:23 < keinek> :)
23:24 < keinek> sorry
23:24 < keinek> i dont mean that
23:24 < keinek> just... rock linux is incompatible with T2
23:25 < keinek> this is a old version of rock linux
23:25 < mnemoc_> it shouldn't affect
23:25 < keinek> with T2 guest system, should work?
23:26 < mnemoc_> sure
23:26 < keinek> great!
23:26 < mnemoc_> keinek: build a minimal T2 on that rock and reinstall :)
23:27 < keinek> now?
23:27 < mnemoc_> keinek: you don't need to wait for the desktop isos
23:27 < keinek> ok
23:28 < keinek> what build?
23:28 < keinek> rescue?
23:28 < mnemoc_> no, generic+minimal
23:28 < keinek> that no appear
23:28 < keinek> "minimal" said only in the router build
23:28 < mnemoc_> Config -> Expert -> Template
23:29 < keinek> ok
23:29 < keinek> i will see
23:30 < mnemoc_> jeru: what happened?
23:30 < keinek> minimalisting package selection?
23:30 < keinek> ok... and what build?
23:31 < keinek> generic?
23:31 < mnemoc_> yep
23:31 < mnemoc_> generic target+minimal template
23:31 < keinek> fine
23:31 < keinek> is downloading now
23:32 < keinek> my duron work that athlon in my bios
23:32 < keinek> but is a duron
23:32 < keinek> i select the pentium mmx
23:32 < keinek> this conflict with the duron can affect the build-target?
23:33 < jeru> amigos ... have to go zzzzZZZZZ now ... I'm tired ...
23:33 < jeru> good night
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23:33 < keinek> good night jeru
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23:34 < Postal> cu jeru
23:34 < keinek> that dreaming with bill gate :P
23:34 < jeru> if it just the gate ;)
23:34 < keinek> jeru: see you soon ;)
23:34 < keinek> in the other side ...
23:35 < jeru> :)
23:35 < jeru> keinek: you will ! :D
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23:38 < Postal> The package build aborted with the following config error:
23:38 < Postal> !> pkgprefix: package openldap is not present
23:38 < Postal> == 06/03/05 17:38:51 =[5]=> Aborted building package gnupg.
23:38 < mnemoc_> gnupg needs openldap?
23:38 < mnemoc_> mom
23:39 < Postal> rxr, you still around?
23:39 < rxr> y3s
23:39 < Postal> cool
23:40 < mnemoc_> yes, it's mandatory :)
23:40 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
23:40 < mnemoc_> gnupg openldap is mandatory on .conf
23:41 < rxr> I do not think this is right ...
23:41 < Postal> ok, well why was it not installed, i do not have an error listed for that file...
23:41 < mnemoc_> ok, i'll if pkginstalled openldap; then that
23:42 < Postal> the only thing in the .err file is this "The package build aborted with the following config error:
23:42 < Postal> pkgprefix: package openldap is not present"
23:42 < mnemoc_> Postal: yes, moment
23:42 < Postal> np
23:43 < CIA-9> amery * r7145 /trunk/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.conf: * fixed gnupg to require openldap only if available
23:44 < Postal> ===[fonts_main:31 (last $?=0)> cp -v PenguinAttack.ttf domestic_manners.ttf /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
23:44 < Postal> cp: copying multiple files, but last argument `/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType' is not a directory
23:44 < Postal> Try `cp --help' for more information.
23:44 < Postal> No 5-cheapskatefonts.log file.
23:45 < mnemoc_> uhm
23:45 < mnemoc_> ls /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/
23:45 < CIA-9> rene * r7146 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * filtered some filesystem stuff out of desktop
23:45 < Postal> inside the t2 enviroment i assume
23:45 < mnemoc_> yes
23:45 < rxr> Postal: did xorg built ...
23:45 < rxr> oh - this is a not yet merged x86 problem ...
23:45 < Postal> rxr, of course
23:45 < rxr> you only have lib64 there, right ?
23:46 < mnemoc_> ?
23:46 < Postal> i dont know i have to check
23:46 < rxr> mipe is not around - so I commit it ..
23:46 < Postal> i have both lib and lib64\
23:46 < mnemoc_> Postal: ls -alF build/system-*/usr/X11
23:47 < Postal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2005-06-03 17:09 build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-64-athlon64-generic-expert/usr/X11 -> X11R6/
23:47 < mnemoc_> Postal: ls -alF build/system-*/usr/X11/
23:47 < mnemoc_> *g*
23:47 < rxr> add a / to your last command
23:48 < rxr> I'm thinking about tying more packages to xorg (prefix=`pkgprefix xorg` ; setconfopt) and just use $libdir on that ...
23:48 < Postal> total 32
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:35 ./
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 ../
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:35 bin/
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 doc/
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:33 include/
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:33 lib/
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:09 lib64/
23:48 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2005-06-03 17:34 man/
23:48 < mnemoc_> rxr: ack
23:49 < rxr> and we should tie any X based stuff into /usr/X11/.../bin and co and not have them in /usr/bin and co
23:49 < rxr> wouldn't that be nice ?
23:49 < rxr> Build [5] at 03/05/2005 from 23:38:15 to 00:21:44 CET
23:49 < rxr> Prefix: usr/X11R6
23:50 < rxr> how I like the t2 progress ...
23:51 < rxr> Postal: where are your X11 fonts ?
23:51 < rxr> in your suse ...
23:51 < Postal> oh
23:51 < Postal> err, im not really sure
23:51 < rxr> l /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/
23:52 < rxr> ls -l of course ...
23:52 < rxr> what does ls /usr/X11/ tell ?
23:52 < mnemoc_> rxr: i assume you noticed the benefit of pkggetdir with your libdir hack
23:52 < rxr> yeah - all fine ,-)
23:52 < Postal> total 128
23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2005-06-03 15:04 .
23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:30 ..
23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 2005-06-03 10:33 75dpi
23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 CID
23:52 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 encodings
23:52 * rxr pads mnemoc_
23:52 < Postal> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 187 2005-06-03 15:04 fonts.cache-1
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 local
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 2005-06-03 10:33 misc
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 Speedo
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 truetype
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 Type1
23:53 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:33 uni
23:53 < Postal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2005-06-03 10:28 URW -> /usr/share/ghostscript/fonts
23:53 < rxr> and ls /usr/X11/
23:53 < rxr> ,-) ?
23:54 < Postal> total 40
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:28 .
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 13:12 ..
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 2005-06-03 10:39 bin
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2004-04-06 01:14 GNUstep
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:25 include
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:29 lib
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:31 lib64
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2005-06-03 06:36 man
23:54 < Postal> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 2005-06-03 10:30 share
23:55 < rxr> ok - thanks
23:55 < Postal> Whats all this for?
23:55 < rxr> this convinces me we should have the fonts in .../lib/, too - since otherwise we would need to tweak the config files conditionally ...
23:56 < Postal> so this will fix some of the errors then
23:56 < Postal> 254 builds total, 157 completed fine, 6 with errors.
23:57 < rxr> the errors are ?
23:57 < Postal> [5] database/bdb [5] mail/exim
23:57 < Postal> [5] security/gnupg [5] fonts/cheapskatefonts
23:57 < Postal> [5] graphic/libmng [5] fonts/bitstream-vera-fon
23:57 < rxr> bdb update will fix it for x86-64 it is planed for next week ..
23:57 < rxr> gnupg will be fixed my mnemoc
23:58 < rxr> what is libmng about ?
23:58 < Postal> mom
23:58 < rxr> exim most probably due to bdb missing
23:58 < rxr> and the fonts - yeah - they are due to the outstanding path fix ...
23:58 < Postal> what is wrong with bdb
23:59 < mnemoc_> rxr: me? what?
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6493: error: `iTargety' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6532: error: `iCount' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c: At top level:
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6955: error: parse error before "pData"
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c: In function `mng_process_display_past2':
23:59 < Postal> libmng_display.c:6964: error: `pData' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:59 < Postal> rocessing static lib corrections ...
23:59 < Postal> Verifing the .la files ...
23:59 < Postal> Found 7 files for this package.
23:59 < Postal> Clear (old) md5sums and cksums ...
23:59 < Postal> Calculating package dependencies ...
23:59 < Postal> Creating md5sum and cksum files ... done.
23:59 < Postal> Creating package description ...
23:59 < Postal> Making post-install adaptions.
--- Log closed Mon Mar 07 00:00:05 2005