T2 IRC Log: 2005-03-11

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--- Log opened Fri Mar 11 00:00:36 2005
00:01 * daja77 installs a communicator
00:02 < mnemoc> hey! you do understand what i say
00:02 < jeru> me?
00:03 < mnemoc> daja
00:03 < daja77> yeah
00:03 * daja77 should install linux on mike's ipaq
00:03 < mnemoc> *ACK*
00:04 < jeru> daja: just insert a bable fish into your ear ;)
00:04 < daja77> he'll do it himself i guess
00:04 < daja77> damn get that thing out!
00:04 < jeru> hehe
00:04 < mnemoc> :D
00:05 < jeru> so ... finally ... I'm out now... critter switched in terror mode ... and is jumping around :D
00:06 < jeru> so ... he tells me I've to sleep now
00:06 < mnemoc> your rabit?
00:06 < CIA-2> amery * r7313 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/ (. gnome-menus.conf gnome-menus.desc): * added gnome-menus (2.10.0) needed by last 'eel'
00:06 < jeru> bye bye ... mnemoc, daja, ....
00:07 < _Ragnar_> cya
00:07 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru, don't forget mysql and postgresql/heimdal issues
00:07 < jeru> mnemoc: don't worry .... it's on the todo ;)
00:08 < mnemoc> :)
00:08 < CIA-2> amery * r7314 /trunk/package/gnome2/eel/eel.desc: * repriorized eel after gnome-desktop
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00:18 * mnemoc moving home
00:18 < mnemoc> libgda update needs work :(
00:20 < CIA-2> amery * r7315 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgda/ (gcc34.patch libgda.conf libgda.desc): * fixed libgda removing obsolete patch, changed to pkgprefix and flagged as NOPARALLEL
01:16 < mnemoc> re
01:24 < mnemoc> rxr_: are you alive?
01:56 * mnemoc trying to do his first kernel sanitization
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02:26 < mnemoc> hi ideal
02:36 < mnemoc> == 03/10/05 22:38:04 =[5]=> Finished building package mysql.
02:36 < mnemoc> finally
02:42 < keinek> hey guys look my first wallpaper of t2
02:42 < keinek> http://www.red-handed.com.ar/t2.jpg
02:43 < mnemoc> keinek: do a gallery and mail the URL to our ML :D
02:43 < keinek> ok
02:43 < mnemoc> "powered by T2" as wallpaper? ;)
02:44 < keinek> in a few days i will work again with 3d studio, and perhaps i will play a little
02:45 < mnemoc> :)
02:46 < CIA-2> amery * r7316 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/atomic.patch: * sanitized asm/atomic.h (linux-header) to be able to build mysql
03:01 < CIA-2> amery * r7317 /trunk/package/base/automake/automake.desc: * updated automake (1.9.4 -> 1.9.5)
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03:36 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.197.88.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
03:36 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532
03:36 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Thu Mar 10 18:02:19 2005]
03:36 [Users #t2]
03:36 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ valentin]
03:36 [ CIA-2 ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ]
03:36 [ daja77 ] [ keinek] [ mtr__ ] [ rxr_]
03:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
03:36 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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--- Log closed Fri Mar 11 06:58:36 2005
--- Log opened Fri Mar 11 07:00:16 2005
07:00 < _Ragnar_> moin
07:03 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_
07:04 < _Ragnar_> :) good news
07:04 < _Ragnar_> with mipes image, the building works
07:04 < _Ragnar_> bad news: the cross built system obviously doesn't
07:09 -!- daja77 [[qnM3G4Sl7@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
07:56 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
09:34 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.48] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
11:08 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.109.251] has quit ["Leaving"]
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12:53 < jeru> hi *
12:54 < rxr> hi
12:54 < rxr> so - finally time to open my ssh connection ,-)
12:55 < jeru> ahh ... hi rxr :)
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13:51 < jeru> re
14:26 < rxr> hi
14:33 < mipe> hi rxr
14:33 < mipe> and jeru
14:35 < mnemoc> moin!
14:35 < mnemoc> rxr: openssh-4.0, 2.1 or 2.2?
14:36 < mipe> hi mnemoc
14:36 < jeru> ahh ... hi mipe, mnemoc, *
14:36 < mnemoc> hi mipe, jeru
14:37 < jeru> mnemoc: so ... you fixed the mysql issue ?
14:37 < mnemoc> jeru: yes, rebuild your linux-header
14:41 < jeru> mnemoc: yes ... already build full blown mnemosyne destktop that will be installed on my desktop this evening ;)
14:43 < mnemoc> :D
14:44 * mnemoc trying to fix balsa :(
14:52 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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15:06 * jeru is leaving home now
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15:09 < CIA-2> amery * r7319 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/ (. gnome-doc-utils.conf gnome-doc-utils.desc): * added gnome-doc-utils (0.1.3) needed by yelp
15:14 < CIA-2> amery * r7320 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * repriorized file-roller after nautilus
15:20 < CIA-2> amery * r7321 /trunk/package/gnome2/devhelp/compile.patch: * fixed devhelp, removed obsolete patch
15:33 < CIA-2> amery * r7322 /trunk/package/gnome2/quick-lounge-applet/gcc34.patch: * fixed quick-lounge-applet removing obsolete patch
15:43 < CIA-2> amery * r7323 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygtk/pygtk.desc: * updated pygtk (2.4.1 -> 2.6.0)
15:54 < CIA-2> amery * r7324 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnet/lib-pthread.patch: * fixed gnet, removing obsolete patch
16:10 < mipe> so any decisions on upgrading bdb?
16:11 < mnemoc> 4.3?
16:11 < mipe> hmm,yep
16:11 < mipe> if not have to take a look to get it to build on x86-64
16:12 < mnemoc> update it locally, and if a generic build passes decently i would vote for it
16:12 < mipe> i thought someone was testing bdb...
16:12 < mnemoc> i had no idea
16:12 < mnemoc> not me
16:13 < mnemoc> do you need it, or just 'want' to update?
16:14 < mnemoc> do you know if there are API/ABI changes?
16:14 < mipe> dont know any API/ABI changes.. i need to get it to build other packages that needs it,exim for example. currently doing desktop build,~350 packages has been built out of ~660
16:15 < mnemoc> exim needs 4.3??
16:15 < mipe> i mean it needs bdb, current one doesnt build
16:15 < mipe> so it fails because of missing deps
16:16 < mnemoc> weird
16:18 < mipe> and i thought that if we are upgrading bdb, i wouldnt waste time fixing it to build.
16:18 < mnemoc> try it
16:49 < mnemoc> straw built :)
16:51 < CIA-2> amery * r7325 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * added gnome-python-extras (2.10.0), an split of gnome-python which contains gtkhtml2 needed by straw
16:52 < CIA-2> amery * r7326 /trunk/package/gnome2/straw/gnomevfs.patch: * fixed straw, patching it to use the names of gnome-python 2.10 bindings
16:53 < mnemoc> anyone interested in helping me to fix gnome-2.10 stuff? :(
16:53 < mnemoc> rxr: i have 2 powerpc/* (obviously not tested) updates
16:57 < CIA-2> mika * r7327 /trunk/package/network/acx100/fix-gcc-ld-flags.patch:
16:57 < CIA-2> * remove x86 specific flags(gcc,ld)
16:57 < CIA-2> thus making it to build on x86-64
16:59 < CIA-2> mika * r7328 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++1/libsigc++1.conf:
16:59 < CIA-2> * fix it to build on x86-64
16:59 < CIA-2> (libtoolize)
16:59 < mnemoc> mika=mipe?
16:59 < mipe> yep
17:00 < CIA-2> mika * r7329 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++12/libsigc++12.conf: * fix to build on x86-64(libtoolize)
17:01 < CIA-2> mika * r7330 /trunk/package/base/recode/recode.conf: * fix to build on x86-64(config.{sub,guess})
17:02 < mnemoc> mipe: what target are you testing?
17:02 < mipe> desktop
17:02 < CIA-2> mika * r7331 /trunk/package/graphic/jbigkit/jbigkit.conf: * fix to build on x86-64(config.{sub,guess}
17:03 < mipe> syne is already built :) , but no iso avail,will be(soon)
17:03 < CIA-2> amery * r7332 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.conf: * fixed evolution-data-server to use pkgprefix
17:03 < mnemoc> :D
17:03 < mnemoc> are you testing with gnome changes now?
17:04 < mipe> does desktop include it?
17:04 < mipe> syne was build with older
17:04 < mipe> i need some help on bootdisk(gcc is broken)... but i guess it has to wait until cebit,everyone seem so busy...
17:04 < mnemoc> i guess it is, but an `svn up` is needed
17:05 < mnemoc> they seem to have forgoten we wanted to release rc1 _on_ cebit, but if they stay afk that will be imposible
17:08 < mnemoc> mipe: apropos libsigc++1.conf, that can be done as: [ $arch = x86-64 ] && hook_add preconf 2 'libtoolize -c -f --automake'
17:08 < mnemoc> looks nicer imo :)
17:09 < mnemoc> what about [ $arch = x86-64 ] && autogen=1 ?
17:09 < mipe> uhm what does autogen do?
17:10 < mipe> yep will change that one...
17:10 < mnemoc> scripts/functions:234
17:10 < mnemoc> we, and our 'pro-magic' policy :)
17:11 < mipe> hmm autoconf is not needed to run?
17:11 < mipe> after that
17:12 < mnemoc> it is there
17:12 < mipe> ah yep :)
17:12 * mipe is not feeling very well
17:12 < mipe> been sick for few days dont know what it is
17:13 < mnemoc> have you visited a medical?
17:14 < mipe> nope not yet...
17:14 < CIA-2> mika * r7333 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++12/libsigc++12.conf: *clean up,use builtin autogen
17:14 < mnemoc> libsigc++1?
17:14 < CIA-2> mika * r7334 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++1/libsigc++1.conf: *clean up,use builtin autogen
17:14 < mipe> both used same
17:15 < mnemoc> does that work?
17:15 < mipe> yep
17:15 < mnemoc> we don't give arguments to aclocal
17:25 < CIA-2> mika * r7335 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/imlib2.conf: *add disable-mmx for x86-64
17:28 < CIA-2> amery * r7336 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/gal-2.4.patch: * fixed evolution, removing obsolete gal patch
17:36 < mnemoc> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-generic-expert:
17:36 < mnemoc> [5] e17/efsd [5] gnome2/bug-buddy [5] gnome2/balsa [5] gnome2/devilspie
17:36 < mnemoc> 1471 builds total, 738 completed fine, 4 with errors.
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17:40 < keinek> hi everbody!
17:43 < mnemoc> hi keinek
17:43 < mipe> hmm, how do i revert?
17:44 < mnemoc> did you commit?
17:44 < mnemoc> if no, svn revert file
17:45 < mnemoc> if yes, svn merge -r(i):(i-1) . ; svn commit
17:45 < mipe> ah so svn revert is only for local
17:47 < mnemoc> yep
17:51 < CIA-2> amery * r7337 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (8.0 -> 8.1)
17:54 < CIA-2> mika * r7338 /trunk/package/archiver/xdelta/xdelta.conf: * fix for x86-64,config.{sub,guess}
17:54 < CIA-2> mika * r7339 /trunk/package/textproc/libunicode/libunicode.conf: *fix x86-64,config.{sub,guess}
17:56 < CIA-2> mika * r7340 /trunk/package/x11/netpbm/netpbm.conf: * fix for x86-64,add -fPIC
17:58 < CIA-2> mika * r7341 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++1/libsigc++1.conf: *reverted and cleaned up
17:59 < mipe> hmm, how do i use pkgprefix to check it's installed?
17:59 < mipe> uhm if another package is installed
18:00 < mipe> imlib2/e17.conf
18:00 < mnemoc> pkginstalled
18:01 < mnemoc> if pkginstalled foo; then
18:01 < mnemoc> pkgprefix -t foo
18:01 < mnemoc> foobin=$( pkgprefix bindir foo )
18:01 < mnemoc> fi
18:01 < mipe> and libdir is pkgprefix libdir foo?
18:01 < mnemoc> yep
18:02 < mnemoc> but prefix is, --with-openldap=$root/$( pkgprefix openldap )
18:02 < mnemoc> bindir, libdir, and friends include the heading /
18:03 < mnemoc> http://www2.t2-project.org/functions/pkgprefix
18:04 < CIA-2> ragnar * r7342 /trunk/package/kde/kdeadmin/kdeadmin.conf: * Only supply pam libs when they are actually installed
18:05 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: feel free to move all that pam stuff into pam/parse-config like heimdal does
18:06 < _Ragnar_> O_O
18:07 < _Ragnar_> kdeadmin wants export LIBS="-lpam -lpam_misc"
18:07 < mnemoc> if you like :)
18:07 < mnemoc> pam/pkg_kdeadmin_post.conf is the place then
18:07 < _Ragnar_> don't think we wanna set that generally
18:07 < mnemoc> look how heimdal does it's dirty stuff
18:08 < _Ragnar_> oh
18:08 < _Ragnar_> complex:)
18:08 < mnemoc> :)
18:09 < _Ragnar_> why post ?
18:09 < mnemoc> $extender/pkg_${pkg}_pre.conf
18:09 < mnemoc> $pkg/$pkg.conf
18:09 < mnemoc> $extender/pkg_${pkg}_post.conf
18:09 < _Ragnar_> okay so it would need _pre
18:10 < mnemoc> why?
18:10 < _Ragnar_> oh wait
18:10 < _Ragnar_> $extender/pkg_${pkg}_post.conf
18:10 < mnemoc> those are sources long before the build process begins
18:10 < mnemoc> sourced*
18:10 < _Ragnar_> and then normal t2 build hooks?
18:10 < _Ragnar_> yea okay gotcha
18:11 < mnemoc> on post you are official configuration, but you afect target's too
18:11 < mnemoc> s/are/alter/
18:11 < mnemoc> on pre you prepare the enviroment for official or target's config
18:12 < mnemoc> to alter some checks done on $pkg.conf
18:12 < _Ragnar_> ah okay
18:12 < mnemoc> ROCKCFG_SOMETHING for example
18:13 < CIA-2> mika * r7343 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/e17.conf: *changed to use pkgprefix
18:14 < mipe> mnemoc:could you verify that,packages that use this work but still a checkup
18:15 < CIA-2> ragnar * r7344 /trunk/package/ (base/pam/pkg_kdeadmin_post.conf kde/kdeadmin/kdeadmin.conf): * moved settings for pam to pam/pkg_kdeadmin_post.conf
18:15 < _Ragnar_> can someone using pam try whether kdeadmin still builds?:)
18:16 * mipe is away for while
18:17 < _Ragnar_> thanks again mipe, btw :)
18:17 < _Ragnar_> works much better now
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19:37 < _Ragnar_> moin
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20:59 < c4y0> hi!
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21:41 < mnemoc> uff
21:41 < mnemoc> a tree cut the phone lines :\
21:43 < _Ragnar_> ooops
21:44 < mnemoc> what did i miss?
21:49 < mnemoc> is svn.exactcode.de up or i still half-dead?
22:14 < CIA-2> amery * r7345 /trunk/package/contrib/joystick/not_module.patch: * fixed joystick, we are not building a module.
22:22 < CIA-2> amery * r7346 /trunk/package/contrib/lcdproc/lcdproc.desc: * updated lcdproc (0.4.3 -> 0.4.5)
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23:10 < mnemoc> .oO
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23:16 < mnemoc> .oO
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23:23 < mnemoc> can anyone connect to svn.exactcode.de?
--- Log closed Sat Mar 12 00:00:46 2005