T2 IRC Log: 2005-03-25

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--- Log opened Fri Mar 25 00:00:27 2005
00:34 < mnemoc_> re
01:08 < CIA-9> amery * r7739 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (adjust_patches.patch newer_packages.patch): * added comments to ooo patches
01:14 < CIA-9> amery * r7740 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (config.hlp config.in): * changed ooo config.in to show only viable options
01:17 < CIA-9> amery * r7741 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf: * reordered ooo .conf
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01:40 < keinek> how much space is the best for swap
01:40 < keinek> ?
01:41 < mnemoc_> 2xRAM
01:42 < keinek> Mmmm that is funny
01:42 < keinek> i have 768 m ddr
01:42 < keinek> i think that 500 m of swap is ok.
01:42 < keinek> dont you?
01:43 < mnemoc_> 1500 :)
01:43 < keinek> the correct is 1500?
01:44 < mnemoc_> 1536
01:44 < keinek> there must be a max
01:44 < mnemoc_> nope
01:44 < mnemoc_> it's the recommended
01:44 < mnemoc_> afaik there are mathematical reasons for that
01:45 < keinek> you have 1536n of death space in your hard disk?
01:45 < mnemoc_> http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_admin/swap-allocation.html <--- nice
01:46 < mnemoc_> but i follow the 'bogus rule'
01:48 < keinek> ;)
01:48 < keinek> 500 m is fine for me
01:50 < mnemoc_> i use lvm anyway, so if i need space i take it
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02:04 < ideal> morning
02:05 < mnemoc_> hi ideal
02:05 < mnemoc_> missing beijing?
02:10 < CIA-9> amery * r7742 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * changed AuditBuild.sh to show references to T2 package matrix
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02:25 < ideal> hi mnemoc_. Yes. Now work in Shanghai:)
02:25 < mnemoc_> do you miss you old city?
02:26 < mnemoc_> were you relocated by work or you decided to move?
02:26 < ideal> Yes, but I walk between these two cities sometimes, for work.
02:39 < mnemoc_> long walk :)
02:41 < keinek> mnemoc, i still move my files to another computer :S
02:41 < keinek> to much information.
02:41 < mnemoc_> too much pr0n
02:41 < keinek> but everything is necesary for install T2 ;)
02:42 < mnemoc_> T2 deserves everything :)
02:42 < keinek> right
02:42 < keinek> ¿como seria "tambien"?
02:43 < mnemoc_> too or also
02:43 < mnemoc_> depending to the context
02:43 < mnemoc_> depending of/on? the context
02:43 < keinek> also a bit of pr0n
02:43 < keinek> :)
02:44 < mnemoc_> where is Postal when i need him :(
02:57 < CIA-9> amery * r7743 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (ooo.conf t2-distro.patch): * fixed ooo to accept T2-Project as a valid 'distro'
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04:39 < CIA-9> amery * r7744 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf:
04:39 < CIA-9> * changed mozilla usage on ooo to conditional
04:39 < CIA-9> * hacked ooo to not use Common distro config, for now.
04:50 < CIA-9> amery * r7745 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/config.in: * changed loop-aes not need an option to activate it's feature if the package is enabled (off by default).
04:59 < keinek> ok... there is the last minutes of my debian sarge :)
05:02 < mnemoc_> sarge to the /sarg/
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05:26 < keinek> cu
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05:33 < CIA-9> amery * r7746 /trunk/package/network/unreal-ircd/unreal-ircd.conf: * cleaned and fixed unreal-ircd .conf
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05:53 < madtux> hello.
05:59 < mnemoc_> madtux!
05:59 < madtux> mnemoc_, !
06:00 < mnemoc_> madtux!
06:10 < CIA-9> amery * r7747 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/config.in: * fixed loop-aes config
06:33 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.196.6.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
06:33 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532
06:33 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005]
06:33 [Users #t2]
06:33 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ praenti] [ valentin]
06:33 [ CIA-9 ] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ rxr ]
06:33 [ ideal ] [ mipe ] [ Postal ] [ rxr_ ]
06:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
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06:33 < mnemoc_> sleepy :)
06:33 < mnemoc_> i'll go now
06:34 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- nightmare don't let me sleep as i would like
06:36 < madtux> no!
06:36 < madtux> don;t sleep
06:39 < Postal> Hey all
06:40 < madtux> hey!
06:41 < Postal> madtux, long time no see
06:41 < madtux> yeah a little bit
06:41 < madtux> howdy
06:45 < mnemoc_> *yawn*
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06:46 < madtux> mnemoc_, anda dormi de una vez te vas a enfermar... manana platicamos ... cuando llegue yo a medellin
06:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7748 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdesklets/gdesklets.conf: * fixed gdesklets, don't run update-desktop-database.
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06:49 < mnemoc_> madtux: :) cu
06:49 < mnemoc_> madtux: good luck
06:50 < madtux> oyasumi
06:51 < mnemoc_> *yawn*
06:51 < mnemoc_> nights
07:07 -!- You're now known as rxr
07:07 < rxr> moin
07:07 < madtux> hi rene.
07:07 < rxr> moin madtux
07:07 < Postal> Hey rxr
07:09 < rxr> hi Postal
07:10 < Postal> Hey rxr
07:11 < Postal> too much wine for Postal... im going to bed.. see you morning my time
07:11 -!- Postal is now known as Postal|Drunk
07:20 < rxr> runk? .oO
07:20 < rxr> +d
07:20 < mipe> re
07:20 < mipe> morning all
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08:24 < rxr> moin mipe
08:24 < mipe> hi rxr
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09:24 < rxr> so - apr crap fixed uped ...
09:45 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
09:49 < rxr> hi Minto
09:49 [Users #t2]
09:49 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ Minto] [ mnemoc_] [ Postal|Drunk] [ rxr ]
09:49 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ praenti ] [ valentin]
09:49 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
09:49 < Minto> Hi rxr
09:50 < Minto> rxr: I know you don't care about Java, but do you have any ideas how to nicely tackle the Sun java download problem?
09:51 < rxr> Minto: IIRC those manual downloads are on our todo ...
09:52 < Minto> Okay
09:52 < rxr> so using manual is just fine for now - especially for interactive sites that can not bypassed easily ...
09:52 < rxr> sorry that I'm so busy to be a bit lagging my inbox ...
09:52 < rxr> but don't use a global /downlaod - but a subdear in T2 topdir/download/manual ...
09:53 < rxr> or is the java file redistributable in unmodified form?
09:53 < rxr> we could inject it into the mirror manaully then ...
09:53 < rxr> but only if Sun allows that within their license ...
09:54 < Minto> I have to carefully read the license, but I am afraid redistribution will be a problem.
09:54 < rxr> ok - then just implement it as manual download ...
09:55 < Minto> I will
09:55 < rxr> btw. did apr-util build for you ?
09:56 < Minto> Yes.
09:57 < rxr> then 1.x must already be fixed up ...
10:02 < mipe> if [[ $xsrctar = *gui* ]] ; then
10:02 < mipe> var_append patchfiles " " "$confdir/ogle-helper-fix.diff"
10:02 < mipe> fi
10:03 < mipe> what is wrong with this line?
10:03 < Minto> rxr: Having problem with building downdated version?
10:05 < Minto> mipe: I not sure what you want to accomplish but is looks you want something like the match_source_file functions. Ses nvidia package for inspiration.
10:06 < rxr> Minto: the line looks ok - what is error your get?
10:06 < mipe> who me?
10:06 < mipe> it doesnt apply the patch
10:06 < rxr> Minto: no - xsrctar is used when multiple tarballs are build in one package ...
10:07 < Minto> Ok, sorry
10:07 < mipe> http://10.0.0.12/regressions/full/diff/ogle.diff
10:07 < rxr> mipe: hm - I have not the details off hand when patchfiles is sued ...
10:07 < mipe> http://10.0.0.12/regressions/full/log/5-ogle.err
10:07 < rxr> but you can use the automated way to apply patches per xsrctar ...
10:07 < mipe> ups replace 10.0.0.12 with 212.66.194.40
10:08 < rxr> name it $confdir/name.patch.$xsrctar ...
10:08 < mipe> rxr:how?
10:08 < mipe> oh
10:08 < mipe> will try
10:12 < CIA-9> mika * r7749 /trunk/package/base/rpm/ (configdir-fix.patch rpm.conf rpm.desc):
10:12 < CIA-9> * rpm, change rpmconfig to use libdir and
10:12 < CIA-9> flag package as FPIC-QUIRK
10:14 < CIA-9> mika * r7750 /trunk/package/games/plib/plib.desc: * flag package plib FPIC-QUIRK
10:14 < CIA-9> mika * r7751 /trunk/package/graphic/libmng/libmng.desc: * flag package libmng as FPIC-QUIRK
10:15 < mipe> hmm nope patch naming didnt help either
10:16 < rxr> how did you name it ?
10:16 < rxr> must end .patch.ogle_gui
10:25 < CIA-9> rene * r7752 /trunk/package/develop/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
10:25 < CIA-9> Minto van der Sluis and Rene Rebe:
10:25 < CIA-9> * added apr and apr-util (0.9.6)
10:25 < CIA-9> rene * r7753 /trunk/package/network/apache/apache.conf:
10:25 < CIA-9> * converted apache to utilize the stand alone apr* packages and not
10:25 < CIA-9> build the internally shipped ones
10:31 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFCAAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
10:31 < jeru> moin moin
10:32 < rxr> == 03/25/05 10:30:49 =[9]=> Finished building package apache.
10:32 < rxr> hi jeru
10:33 < rxr> installed apr apr-util using apache ...
10:35 < jeru> hehe ... I already read svn ci messages ... does it work properly ;)
10:41 < jeru> but the errors in mnemoc's regression tests increased unfortunately
10:47 < rxr> jeru: grab and fix a few ,-)
10:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7754 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.conf:
10:47 < CIA-9> * converted subversion to use the single apr / apr-util
10:47 < CIA-9> * fixed it to use pkgprefix to determin the apache location
10:47 < rxr> jeru: the linux24 is just because the newly ipw2xxx driver using postlnux now ...
10:47 < rxr> built for me with 2.6.11.5 ...
10:47 < rxr> have not tested 2.4 ...
10:48 < rxr> either disable it for it - or someone fixes it ...
10:50 < CIA-9> rene * r7755 /trunk/package/network/xmule/: * removed non building xmule - we have amule now ...
10:50 < rxr> so - one build error less
10:51 * jeru is phoning ... rxr: thank you for fixing ;)
10:51 < rxr> *g*
10:52 < rxr> amule was added because of xmule not building ...
10:53 < rxr> I always wonder why noone removed xmule then ...
11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r7756 /trunk/package/games/squaroid/ (squaroid.conf squaroid.desc subconfig-games.in):
11:05 < CIA-9> * removed unneeded config options from squaroid, fixed configure on
11:05 < CIA-9> the way
11:05 < CIA-9> * cleaned up the squaroid.desc (does not build fully)
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11:21 < rxr> hi mnemoc
11:21 < rxr> == 03/25/05 11:17:59 =[9]=> Finished building package subversion.
11:21 < CIA-9> rene * r7757 /trunk/package/games/senken/senken.conf: * fixed senken by terminating strings and removed stray noise ...
11:21 < rxr> idefix:/home/rene/develop/t2-trunk# ./scripts/Build-Pkg squaroid
11:22 < rxr> ok games/squaroid - and then it must do as easter pkg fixing ..
11:22 < rxr> have to code commercial stuff the rest of the weekend ...
11:22 < rxr> == 03/25/05 11:22:53 =[9]=> Finished building package squaroid.
11:25 < CIA-9> rene * r7758 /trunk/package/games/squaroid/ (4 files):
11:25 < CIA-9> * removed manual patch stuff and fixed squaroid by renaming the patches
11:25 < CIA-9> to the .$xsrctar extension so the get applied ...
11:25 < CIA-9> * removed sound device configure patch by using an ordenary config
11:25 < CIA-9> option to force the device ...
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11:35 < jeru> ohhh ... that was a phone marathon ...
11:47 < rxr> hi ,-)
11:50 < rxr> wow
11:50 < rxr> jeru: do you have some seconds
11:50 < rxr> I have a great email in my inbox ...
11:51 * rxr fwd ...
11:51 < rxr> jeru: the ppnux article - quite well writen - I'm impressed ,-)
11:51 < rxr> of course some sentences could get a tiny tweak - but I very much like that style ,-)
11:52 < jeru> I'll read it now ... ;)
11:52 < jeru> rxr: we've to write more articles and documentation to broaden our user base ;)
11:53 < mipe> does gnome-config --libs xml, return anything?
11:53 < mipe> in your box that is
11:53 < jeru> hi mipe
11:53 < mipe> hi jeru
11:56 < mipe> or where is your xmlConf.sh located?
11:56 < mipe> someone with the libxml installed
11:57 < rxr> # gnome-config --libs xml
11:57 < rxr> Unknown library `xml'
11:58 < jeru> rxr: nice article :)
12:02 < rxr> yep ,-)!
12:05 < jeru> rxr: I started writing some "Mini Howtos" which will incorporate my experience especialy for building LDAP based server solutions with T2
12:05 < rxr> mipe: could you install (e.g. emerge using T2) ploticus on your amd64 machine ?
12:07 < rxr> mnemoc:
12:07 < rxr> gDesklets 0.34.3
12:07 < rxr> mnemoc: Desklets 0.34.3
12:10 < mipe> rxr:ok it should be installed
12:13 < rxr> mipe: thanks
12:13 < rxr> ./stat2.sh: line 136: 1159 Segmentation fault ploticus -png -o stat2-bt.png stat2-bt.ploticus
12:13 < rxr> ouhm
12:13 < rxr> I copy the data to my local box and try it there ...
12:13 < mipe> ok
12:13 < rxr> but maybe it is just a bug in ploticus with too much input data ...
12:13 < rxr> ploticus is not the best written software on earth ...
12:26 < rxr> mipe: .oO(ploticus works here with the same input ...)
12:38 < mipe> yep,looks like ubuntu delivers broken ploticus
12:38 < mipe> rxr:can you show test results?
12:40 < rxr> not yet
12:40 < rxr> need to fix my benchmarks a bit ...
12:40 < rxr> some did not yet run
12:40 < rxr> and I have not yet all I wanted ...
12:41 < rxr> maybe in the night or so they all are ready ... ,-)
12:42 < mipe> yep,but powering off for the night. coolers are so damn noisy. have to replace them when i get time
12:42 < rxr> ouhm - ok
12:42 < rxr> I hurry to finish it until then ,-)
12:42 < mipe> :)
12:42 < rxr> ok - mp3 bench fixed I think ...
12:42 < rxr> but I have to go for lunch now - first ...
12:47 < rxr> mipe: you replace your box with T2 soon?
12:48 < rxr> ubuntu is strange
12:48 * rxr adapting the bench mark run script even further ...
12:49 < mipe> rxr:yep soon, after i got these packages fixed(~100)
12:50 < rxr> hehe ,-)
13:01 < rxr> damn - your ld is strangly buggy
13:01 < rxr> have to debug this when I'm back from lunch - cu
13:27 < mipe> hmm,i'll start fresh mnemosyne build and install that... btw. have to debug bootdisk issues at some point
14:05 < CIA-9> chris * r7759 /trunk/package/network/plone/plone.conf: * fixed ROCKCFG variable that plone will install in zope product directory again
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14:22 < keinek> hi everybody
14:22 < Minto> Hi Keinek
14:48 < jeru> Hi Keinek, Minto :)
14:56 < mipe> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/05/03/25/0017259.shtml?tid=222&tid=137
14:56 < mipe> ^--- good idea
15:12 < keinek> hey guys in kde where is the fontconfig
15:12 < keinek> because i have that error in the init of kde
15:12 < keinek> error in font.dir or something like that
15:13 < mipe> what package is failing?
15:13 < keinek> i dont have fonts in kde
15:13 < keinek> so.
15:13 < mipe> oh
15:13 < keinek> i try fix that by hand
15:14 < keinek> FontConfig error: line 24
15:14 < keinek> so
15:14 < keinek> where is the FontConfig?
15:16 < keinek> now i do a find :)
16:14 < rxr> re
16:17 < keinek> libstd where is include?
16:17 < keinek> hi rxr
16:19 < rxr> libstdc++ ?
16:19 < rxr> in gcc ...
16:22 < keinek> yes
16:22 < keinek> but dont have that lib
16:22 < keinek> :(
16:24 < keinek> i have one error in fontconfig
16:25 < keinek> the fontconfig.org is include in t2?
16:25 < keinek> firefox also kde tell me that error
16:31 < rxr> fontconfig is included in x.org ...
16:34 < keinek> ok
16:34 < keinek> i see that i dont have /usr/share/fonts
16:34 < keinek> now i copy that directory from debian to t2
16:34 < keinek> but kde still without fonts
16:35 < keinek> now meaby with de cron daily?
16:37 < rxr> the fonts are not in /usr/share/fonts ...
16:37 < rxr> they are in /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts or so ..
16:37 < rxr> you installed the font packages I mention?
16:37 < rxr> bitsream-vera-fonts or so ?=
16:38 < keinek> in /etc/fonts/font.conf
16:38 < keinek> appear /usr/share/fonts dir
16:38 < keinek> so...
16:39 < keinek> right.
16:39 < rxr> well, ok
16:40 < keinek> i copy the /etc/fonts/font.conf from debian to t2
16:40 < keinek> now is right!
16:40 < keinek> the error is in the config file of font.
16:40 < keinek> now i have fonts
16:41 < keinek> what the fuc*! with the /etc/fonts
16:41 < rxr> aha ..
16:41 < keinek> men! i have not fonts for days because that config.
16:41 < rxr> normally fonts in KDE work for us ...
16:41 < rxr> could you mail me the config ?
16:41 < keinek> ok
16:41 < rxr> rene@exactcode.de
16:41 < keinek> sure
16:42 < keinek> whait a moment
16:42 < keinek> you are rene!?
16:42 < keinek> your are the leader project dont you?
16:43 < keinek> every day when i was read rene for everywhere i was think... where is rene?
16:43 < keinek> and now
16:43 < keinek> i see
16:43 < keinek> that
16:43 < keinek> you are rene
16:43 < keinek> :)
16:44 < rxr> hehe ,-)
16:45 < Minto> rxr: what is the difference between download/mittor and download/local?
16:46 < keinek> rxr: i will send you the file that work for me, cos the other file was overwriting :)
16:46 < rxr> mirror is stuff that can also go and come from mirrors ...
16:46 < keinek> and... i dont do backup of that file
16:46 < rxr> the other one (is it local right now?) is for non-mirror-able files ...
16:47 < rxr> like those with undistributable licenses ...
16:47 < Minto> Okay so sun and ibm java stuff should go there. Am I correct that [D] .... -http... goto local as well?
16:51 < keinek> ok rxr
16:51 < keinek> the mail is in way
16:51 < keinek> i use for now webmail :P
16:54 < rxr> Minto: a - in front of the URL decides that it is not mirror able ...
16:54 < rxr> line 921 of scripts/function
16:54 < rxr> +s
16:56 < Minto> ahh, Okay
16:57 < Minto> rxr: Is there an easy way to remove a package from a build. I want to remove the blackdown packages to be able to test the sun ones.
16:57 < Minto> Should I use the flist and remove every file in it?
17:00 < rxr> mine -r $pkgname
17:00 < rxr> or from a Build-Target build ?
17:00 < rxr> then use:
17:01 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg yours -detele $pkg
17:01 < rxr> or so
17:01 < Minto> I'll try
17:01 < mipe> rxr: http://212.66.194.40/regressions/system/diff/gcc.diff
17:02 < mipe> rxr:any objections for commit?
17:02 < CIA-9> mika * r7760 /trunk/architecture/x86-64/pkg_gcc_post.conf:
17:02 < CIA-9> * added architecture/x86-64/pkg_gcc_post.conf
17:02 < CIA-9> to process gcc 32bit libs
17:02 < rxr> well - you would need -fuldelete I think ...
17:02 < rxr> to remove all files and - the -delete will only remove the log files - to schedule a rebuild ..
17:03 < rxr> mipe: nice cleanup - feel free to commit ,-)
17:04 < rxr> mipe: the architecture/x86-64/pkg_gcc_post.conf is needed for all multi arch architecture I would think ...
17:04 < rxr> that is also sparc64, powerpc64, the other IBM mainframe thing and so on ...
17:05 < rxr> but - well - for now we can keep it there until we review ...
17:05 < rxr> this stage1 hack is anyway on my list to "review why the h*ll we need that" list ...
17:05 < CIA-9> mika * r7761 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: * gcc,replace lib defines by $libdir
17:06 < rxr> I tried without it - but had to notice that despite my toolchain work we still need that hack ...
17:06 < rxr> during the next toolchain cleanup I'll debug gcc and friends why they need those files when they should not ...
17:06 < rxr> well - need the files at that place that is - ...
17:07 < mipe> rxr:pkg_gcc_post should work on other multiarch systems too just matter of replacing emulation_arch
17:08 < rxr> yep - but we leave it so - and try to remove that code - I really see no reason why ld or gcc or so need the file there ...
17:08 < rxr> later on they are not used from that place ...
17:08 < rxr> only the cross compiler wants them there ...
17:09 < Minto> rxr: fulldelete doesn't do. It removes all the var/adm stuff but leaves the installed files in place.
17:09 < rxr> ah - I feared that ...
17:09 < mipe> rxr: you mean to remove /usr/x86-64-* ?
17:09 < rxr> them -remove or so does a full remove ...
17:10 < rxr> mipe: nope only those crt*.o and so objects ...
17:10 < rxr> at that place ..
17:10 < mipe> rxr:yep ubuntu doesnt have /usr/$arch-*
17:10 < rxr> they come from glibc and are at: usr/lib
17:10 < rxr> well - as I wrote only the cross compiler need them there - and it is on my "to be solved" list ...
17:11 < mipe> yep
17:11 < rxr> as I wrote I try to remove it when I reworked the toolchain the last time (for T2)
17:11 < rxr> rework == major cleanup ...
17:11 < mipe> i tryed to remove those too but failed
17:12 < rxr> unfortunatly gcc and co wanted them there r
17:12 < rxr> despite my major cleaning ...
17:12 < rxr> yep ...
17:12 < rxr> just leave it there ... for now
17:19 < mipe> rxr: i tracked binutils on this,it has HOSTING_CRT0 and co, those HOSTING_CRT* are retrived by $CC,for example gcc --print-file-name=crti.o
17:19 < mipe> rxr:on t2,it just prints crti.o but ubuntu prints the whole path
17:20 < mipe> or so, i did this few weeks ago might not remember right
17:20 < mipe> but off for while
17:21 < rxr> cu mipe
17:25 < rxr> .oO
17:26 < rxr> using vectorization on openssl on x86-64 results in segmentation faults ...
17:26 < rxr> of the resulting binary ...
17:40 < rxr> hehe A package/office/ooo/t2-distro.patch
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17:58 < mnemoc> moin
18:00 < keinek> hi mnemoc
18:00 < keinek> i fix the problem with de font on kde :)
18:01 < mnemoc> good
18:01 < keinek> in the minimal desktop
18:01 < mnemoc> what was it?
18:01 < mnemoc> what is kde doing on minimal desktop??
18:01 < keinek> the problem for me are in /etc/fonts files
18:02 < keinek> i dont know
18:02 < keinek> meaby was.. generic minimal desktop?
18:02 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- frustrating
18:02 < keinek> problems with openoffice?
18:02 < mnemoc> kde is far from any minimal-wannabe thing
18:02 < rxr> re
18:03 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:03 < keinek> you saw that in my regression mi target have 183 packages
18:03 < keinek> and kde is in there.
18:03 < mnemoc> hi rxr
18:03 < rxr> mnemoc: I fixed at least 3 errors ...
18:03 < rxr> deleted xmule and fixed two games ...
18:03 < rxr> maybe even more ...
18:03 < mnemoc> xmule is close to work!
18:03 < keinek> xmule is like emule?
18:03 < mnemoc> i even have an update here
18:04 < keinek> mldonkey is the best.
18:04 < rxr> ouhm - sorry then
18:04 < mnemoc> but wx-basded
18:04 < rxr> I took a look once and it was messz ...
18:04 < rxr> and we have amule now ..
18:04 < rxr> but revert my delete if you want to fix it ,-)
18:05 * rxr going to fith with Quick Draw picture handles now ...
18:05 < mnemoc> i don't consider svn rm a fix :\
18:05 < rxr> we added amule because of xmule did not compile ...
18:05 < mnemoc> but if you don't want xmule as package, i'll remove it here
18:06 < rxr> I always wondered why xmule was not removed ...
18:06 < rxr> but if you wanna work on it ... ,-)
18:06 < rxr> well - if someome fixes it ...
18:06 < mnemoc> i have 70 broken packages here
18:06 < rxr> the more the better .. I just thought noone cares ... -
18:06 < rxr> mnemoc: broken or to be added *g* ?
18:06 < keinek> guys t2 fly in my computer
18:06 < mnemoc> + 32 disabled and 21 hidden
18:06 < keinek> congratulations.
18:07 < mnemoc> keinek: ms pacman ? :p
18:07 < rxr> congratulations keinek
18:07 < keinek> i dont play still.
18:07 < mnemoc> rxr: look at the list
18:07 < keinek> now i was download the installer of open office
18:07 < mnemoc> rxr: only 4 are 'added'
18:07 < keinek> until the problem in t2 will solve.
18:07 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/log/5-ooo.err
18:08 < keinek> mnemoc: now is ready?
18:08 < mnemoc> no, it's faili
18:08 < mnemoc> ng
18:08 < keinek> or need help?
18:08 < keinek> Mmmm
18:08 < mnemoc> any help is welcome
18:09 < keinek> yes first i will see audacity.
18:10 < rxr> keinek: audacity is also ugly to fix
18:10 < rxr> I spent 2 hours in a night or so ..
18:10 < mnemoc> rxr: audacity error is rene's only
18:10 < mnemoc> :)
18:10 < rxr> it is due to unicode in wxwidget ...
18:10 < rxr> I hope the audacity people release a fixed version some time soon ...
18:11 < keinek> ok
18:11 < keinek> so...
18:11 < keinek> i would like to add some packages.
18:11 < keinek> prozilla
18:11 < keinek> xmame.
18:11 < keinek> amsn.
18:11 < keinek> and a lots that dont include in the t2
18:11 < mnemoc> gnome-media and paragui are show stopers
18:12 < keinek> before i will read the license of that programas.
18:12 < keinek> programs*
18:12 < rxr> mnemoc: what did you do to paragui - update?
18:12 < rxr> I mean all the stuff compiled one day ...
18:13 < mnemoc> python24 i guess, more than the update
18:13 < mnemoc> swig_python :\
18:13 < mnemoc> paraguic_wrap.cpp:740: error: `fnmatch' undeclared (first use this function) <--- real error
18:13 < mnemoc> the others are warning
18:13 < mnemoc> s
18:14 < mnemoc> i'm completely overwhelmed by this error list
18:15 < keinek> Mmmm my system is a puzzle.
18:15 < rxr> omg - http://developer.apple.com/technotes/qd/qd_05.html <- that is old ...
18:16 < mnemoc> 87 :D
18:16 < rxr> ah - interesting
18:16 < rxr> http://developer.apple.com/technotes/qd/qd_14.html
18:17 < mnemoc> why are you looking into QD?
18:18 < rxr> guess ...
18:18 < rxr> scanner driver ...
18:18 < rxr> what else do I boot OSX for ... .-(
18:19 < mnemoc> i thought you were finished on that
18:19 < rxr> mnemoc: not all of us have as cool jobs as creating custom T2 servers ,-)
18:19 < rxr> mnemoc: is software ever finished ?
18:19 < rxr> now I have to to some adaptions for the latest M$ Office ...
18:19 < rxr> and then some tiny batch scan example app ...
18:20 < rxr> and then I think the money should start flowing ...
18:20 < mnemoc> i work coding :\ ... creating T2 servers to me is like writting articles to you
18:25 < rxr> I hope your coding is fun ,-)
18:25 < mnemoc> absolutly not
18:25 < rxr> oh - poor mnemoc - should we start market T2 to get rich ?
18:25 < rxr> (and thus stop ugly coding ...)
18:26 < rxr> mnemoc: btw I noticed a mail address from fake with hpc.at - he is working in austria now ?
18:26 < mnemoc> no idea
18:27 < rxr> I think it even was in the java package or so you imported ...
18:27 < mnemoc> i imported
18:28 < mnemoc> why are we spending so much time on T2 if it's not for living some day of it? :)
18:29 < keinek> i think that the core error in firefox was the same problem with fonts config.
18:30 < keinek> in a minutes i will know
18:30 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - sure ,-)
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18:39 < mnemoc> jeru: Plone did extract some files on $root
18:40 < CIA-9> amery * r7762 /trunk/package/gnome2/pybliographer/no-update-desktop-database.patch.pybliographer: * fixed pybliographer by not running update-desktop-database
18:41 < Minto> rxr or mnemoc: Sun java has an optional dependancy of gnome. What gnome package should I test for? Currently I have libgnome.
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18:42 < rxr> Minto: no idea ...
18:42 < keinek> i back
18:42 < keinek> x-chat work fine :)
18:43 < rxr> Minto: java depends on gnome or gnome on jaba ?
18:43 < mnemoc> i don't use java :\
18:43 < Minto> java on gnome
18:43 < keinek> why when finisht emerge one package sometime dont work until reboot the system?
18:43 < mnemoc> i got it
18:43 < Minto> What is the base package of gnome
18:43 < mnemoc> you mean, if pkginstalled
18:43 < Minto> Yes
18:43 < mnemoc> it is gnome or gtk?
18:44 < Minto> gnome
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18:44 < Minto> Java instal checks for gnome dir (environment var GNOME_DIR)
18:44 < mnemoc> libbonobo is the first gnome package built
18:46 < jeru> re hi
18:46 < jeru> ah hi mnemoc
18:46 < mnemoc> glib is not restricted to gnome, but i think bonobo or even libgnome is good
18:46 < mnemoc> hi jeru
18:46 < mnemoc> are good*
18:46 < jeru> mnemoc: I think plone is already fixed
18:47 < mnemoc> ok, i'll remove and reschedule
18:47 < Minto> Maybe I stick with libgnome for now. The Sun jre install script has a few lines to determine the gnome top dir.
18:47 < Minto> Hi jeru
18:47 < jeru> hi Minto
18:47 < mnemoc> /qmatplotrc came from plone too?
18:48 < jeru> nope
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18:48 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly
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18:49 < keinek> i bak
18:49 < keinek> back
18:49 < keinek> firefox work fine
18:49 < keinek> :)
18:49 < keinek> sloowly my system was reborn
18:50 < mnemoc> keinek: great :)
18:50 < rxr> keinek: good ,-)
18:51 < rxr> hm - Gimp on OS X's TWAIN interface only support MEMORY transfers ...
18:52 < keinek> ;)
18:52 < keinek> first point.
18:53 < keinek> have a system... with target or emerge... dont care.
18:53 < keinek> second point have a target that work and dont need or need minimal emerge
18:54 < keinek> i will install open office with installer
18:54 < keinek> remember that i work with that machine.
18:55 < keinek> ok i have one problem
18:56 < rxr> http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gimp/plug-ins/twain/
18:56 < keinek> if i like install xmame or prozilla i need to copy the dirs from my trunk that are in the other computer
18:56 < keinek> because that packages are add by me.
18:56 < keinek> so.
18:57 < keinek> i do a mix with the official trunk with my trunk.
18:57 < rxr> keinek: what is your question?
18:57 < mnemoc> keinek: what is your question?
18:58 < keinek> how update the office trunk with my own packages
18:58 < keinek> "cp"?
18:59 < keinek> and dont overwrite nothing only write the new?
18:59 < keinek> forguet... i will solve it on my way.
19:01 < rxr> cool - just found the info I needed ...
19:01 < rxr> (for those other transfers modes I need for M$ Office ....
19:02 < keinek> rxr how activate the nfs?
19:02 < keinek> mnemoc said something like RPA or something
19:02 < mnemoc> RPC
19:02 < keinek> that
19:02 < keinek> rpc
19:02 < keinek> how active rpc on my t2
19:03 < keinek> because remain 1 minute for mount
19:03 < mnemoc> i think there is stuff on /etc/rc.d/init.d
19:03 < keinek> and with rpc mount at instant
19:03 < mnemoc> portmap
19:03 < mnemoc> or something like that
19:03 < keinek> aha!
19:03 < keinek> portmap dont exits
19:03 < keinek> emerge?
19:05 < mnemoc> yep
19:05 < keinek> no
19:06 < keinek> there not a package with that name.
19:06 < keinek> also try rpc
19:06 < keinek> dont worry
19:06 < keinek> at less i have firefox :)
19:07 < keinek> remember that the font.conf cause error with fonts on kde and with the core of firefox
19:07 < keinek> in minimal desktop.
19:07 < keinek> i will create again the config for show you that kde is include in that config.
19:07 < mnemoc> # echo package/*/portmap*
19:07 < mnemoc> package/network/portmap
19:08 < keinek> echo packages/*/*rpc*
19:08 < keinek> packages <-
19:08 < keinek> i am stupid
19:08 < keinek> sorry
19:08 < mnemoc> yes
19:14 < rxr> I would just use scp ...
19:17 < mnemoc> keinek: did it work?
19:18 < keinek> == 15:09:28 =[9]=> Building network/portmap [4 2.1.0-rc1].
19:18 < keinek> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled.
19:18 < keinek> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
19:18 < keinek> -> Preparing build in src.portmap.1111763359.2345.7f0100
19:18 < keinek> -> Ignoring update mode since package isn't installed already.
19:18 < keinek> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-portmap.out
19:18 < keinek> !> portmap.c:620: warning: passing arg 2 of `svc_sendreply' ..
19:18 < keinek> !> gcc -Dconst= -Dperror=xperror -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DCHECK_POR ..
19:18 < keinek> !> gcc -Dconst= -Dperror=xperror -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DCHECK_POR ..
19:18 < keinek> !> gcc -Dconst= -Dperror=xperror -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DCHECK_POR ..
19:18 < keinek> !> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libwrap.a', n ..
19:18 < keinek> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-portmap.log file!
19:18 < mnemoc> :|
19:18 < keinek> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins ..
19:18 < keinek> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-portmap.out -> 9-portmap.err
19:18 < keinek> == 03/25/05 15:09:38 =[9]=> Aborted building package portmap.
19:18 < keinek> :(
19:18 < keinek> forguet now i was download k3b :)
19:18 < mnemoc> /usr/lib/libwrap.a <--- tcpwrapper
19:18 < keinek> nothing stoping me :)
19:19 < keinek> tcpwrapper is a package?
19:20 < mnemoc> yep
19:20 < mnemoc> search for *wrap*
19:20 < keinek> ok
19:24 < _Ragnar_> re
19:26 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
19:26 < _Ragnar_> hey mnemoc
19:26 < jeru> hi Ragnar
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19:40 < mnemoc> why glut and freeglut are 'O'?
19:53 < keinek> k3b work fine :)
19:54 < keinek> but need route by hand (/dev/cdroms/cdrom0)
19:54 < mnemoc> yes
19:54 < mnemoc> cdrtools doesn't like lx26
19:54 < keinek> meaby with t2 can write dvd fine.
19:56 < keinek> for new kernel i do emerge and work fine?
20:01 < mnemoc> yep
20:01 < mnemoc> emerge the extensions you want first
20:06 < rxr> mnemoc stup this FUD - linux26 bruns anything here ..
20:06 < mnemoc> here too
20:06 < mnemoc> _but_ it doesn't 'scanbus'
20:08 < mnemoc> rxr: why glut and freeglut are both Optional?
20:09 < rxr> no idea ...
20:09 < rxr> svn blame ?
20:10 < rxr> never missed them ...
20:10 < rxr> 3305 clifford [P] O -----5---9 196.300
20:11 < rxr> glut is X here ... ?
20:11 < mnemoc> yes?
20:11 < mnemoc> mom
20:11 < rxr> r3306 | clifford | 2004-06-18 12:13:20 +0200 (Fri, 18 Jun 2004) | 5 lines
20:11 < rxr> Clifford Wolf:
20:11 < rxr> Results of a Check-Deps-2 run
20:11 < mnemoc> oh, you are right
20:11 < mnemoc> glut is X
20:11 < rxr> r3305 | clifford | 2004-06-18 11:39:20 +0200 (Fri, 18 Jun 2004) | 5 linesClifford Wolf: Flattened build priority numbers.
20:11 < rxr> how I liek that noise ...
20:12 < mnemoc> talking about noise, will we update our .cache files?
20:13 < rxr> yes we want ,-)
20:13 < rxr> of course ...
20:13 < rxr> with the update layout we will have less noise ... ,-)
20:14 < mnemoc> hehe
20:14 < rxr> and withotu static priority we will have less maintenance nightmare and noise there, too
20:16 < mnemoc> do you want .cache files of my non-changed packages on the ref i have showed you?
20:16 < mnemoc> .oO( i hate my english )o
20:16 < rxr> well - feel free to inject all non-error packages you have ,-)
20:17 < mnemoc> most of my errors are on non-changed packages
20:21 < mnemoc> i'll prepare a tree to add .cache files
20:23 < mnemoc> /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.30905: line 20: cd: /usr/src/redhat/BUILD: No such file or directory
20:23 < mnemoc> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.30905 (%prep)
20:23 < mnemoc> this stoped my last ooo build
20:38 < valentin> hi
20:39 < valentin> what did i miss ? ,)
20:39 < mnemoc> valentin: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- do you want to fix stuff?
20:40 < mnemoc> xmp error is weird
20:40 < mnemoc> Makefile:49: depend: No such file or directory
20:40 < rxr> oh ! hi valentin
20:40 < valentin> mnemoc: i'm just back from holiday and you load me with work
20:40 < rxr> welcome back
20:40 < valentin> hi rxr
20:41 < mnemoc> valentin: you are renewed :)
20:41 < rxr> yeah - in good condition for osx hacking *g*
20:41 < rxr> (just joking)
20:41 < mnemoc> and i am overwhelmed
20:41 < mnemoc> hehe
20:41 < rxr> mnemoc: fix build errors a bit slower ...
20:41 < rxr> celebrate easter with your familly or so ... ,-)
20:42 < valentin> rxr: what is the status of the driver ?
20:42 < rxr> I mean even when you relax a bit our commit stats will still outweight rock's ...
20:42 < rxr> valentin: I just continued hacking on it ..
20:42 < rxr> so - well - I'll have a busy weekend ...
20:43 < mnemoc> rxr: i have lot of non-t2 late work :\
20:43 * valentin reading a huge bulk of email
20:51 < jeru> mnemoc: was openjade succesfully build on your ref ?
20:51 < mnemoc> .oO( do we have openjade? )o
20:52 < mnemoc> [TIMESTAMP] 1110447148 Thu Mar 10 06:32:28 2005
20:52 < mnemoc> [CONFIG-ID] 2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-generic-expert
20:52 < mnemoc> [BUILDTIME] 52146 (5)
20:52 < mnemoc> [SIZE] 15.01 MB, 258 files
20:52 < jeru> yep ... it's needed by docbook-tools which failed on your ref
20:52 < mnemoc> openjade: usr/bin/openjade
20:52 < jeru> I think
20:52 < mnemoc> feel free to merge my patch and fix :D
20:54 < jeru> :D
20:54 < mnemoc> == 03/25/05 15:53:56 =[5]=> Aborted building package rpm. <--- this is new
20:55 * rxr coffee
21:03 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/cache.sh <-- comments? should i restrict it to non-broken packages?
21:06 < jeru> have to go sleep now ... visiting my parents tomorrow, so I've to get up early. cu all :)
21:06 < rxr> cu jeru
21:06 < valentin> cu jeru
21:07 < rxr> ouhm - I'm too used to konqeurro - safari downloaded the cache.sh on the desktop or so - /me earching - not as konqeuror just displaying in the kate kpart ...
21:07 < jeru> ahh hi valentin :) ........ and cu you ;)
21:07 < keinek> cu i be back in a few hours
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21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: interesting - I did not know ls -1 ,-)
21:09 < mnemoc> :p
21:10 < rxr> try it ,-)
21:14 < mnemoc> svn st | grep '^?' <-- how can i make this work syncronus?
21:18 < mnemoc> i should have svn add on cache.sh
21:19 < rxr> synchronous ?
21:19 < rxr> what do you mean ?
21:20 < mnemoc> grep waits lot of time before start outputing
21:21 < mnemoc> so svn st | grep | grep | grep take about 1.5 times svn st
21:22 < rxr> hm?
21:22 < rxr> mnemoc: just run the script
21:22 < rxr> and svn status thereafter on all files ...
21:22 < rxr> way faster ...
21:24 * mnemoc patching .cache before commiting
21:24 < mnemoc> copyright patch
21:25 < rxr> cache should not have a copyright ...
21:25 < rxr> I think
21:25 < rxr> to much fluff / text without meaning ...
21:25 < mnemoc> they had
21:25 < rxr> do we inject a copyright into .cache ?
21:25 < rxr> I know - but not anymore - I hope ,-)
21:27 < mnemoc> then we should patch Create-CopyPatch to not do it
21:27 < mnemoc> and to remove olds
21:27 < rxr> yep
21:28 < rxr> if we still inject them I think we don't need them on the .cache file
21:29 < mnemoc> new .cache don't include broken flag?
21:30 < rxr> no - I removed that ...
21:30 < mnemoc> uhm
21:30 < rxr> packages should build ...
21:30 < mnemoc> .oO
21:30 < rxr> and the .cache should reflect the dependencies and size and so ...
21:31 < rxr> it makes no sence to overwrite this with some useless error log ...
21:31 < mnemoc> there is an option on Config to skip broken :)
21:31 < mnemoc> ok
21:31 < rxr> we have the error on our regression testers ...
21:31 < mipe> me to bed,gn8 all
21:31 < mnemoc> night mipe
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21:32 < rxr> well - my plan is that stable series build all packages ...
21:32 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <-- lot of work is needed before that
21:32 < rxr> and we developers should fix errors ...
21:32 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - /me is back ,-)
21:33 < mnemoc> :D
21:33 < rxr> I fixed two games today ,-)
21:33 < rxr> *g*
21:33 < mnemoc> *G*
21:33 < mnemoc> what about moving broken to an 'attic' or like repo?
21:33 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe we should inject the old wxwidget for xmule, audacity and friends ?
21:33 < rxr> well - that is what contrib was meant for ...
21:33 < mnemoc> i don't like that
21:34 < mnemoc> contrib is for toys :)
21:34 < mnemoc> most toys build fine
21:34 < rxr> ok - then attic or so, too
21:34 < rxr> but only for long time broken stuff or so ...
21:34 < mnemoc> instead of removing them, and waiting for a good update or fix
21:34 < rxr> mnemoc: I mean not to downdate wxwidget - just have wxwidget2x ...
21:34 < mnemoc> i don't like that
21:35 < rxr> this utf8 stuff is really ugly to fix when you are not a lead developer of the affected packages ...
21:35 < mnemoc> they are all moving to new api
21:35 < mnemoc> slower or faster, they are all moving
21:35 < rxr> belive my - I and jsaw tried - I wasted a whole evening on that ...
21:35 < mnemoc> uhm
21:35 < rxr> sure - but do we want audacity broken until then?
21:35 < rxr> I could ask the devels or try a CVS update, though ...
21:35 < mnemoc> that is what i have been trying
21:35 < rxr> ok - I try HEAD code of the packages to see how that goes ...
21:36 < rxr> mnemoc: don't waste your time on ugly audio stuff you never will use ...
21:36 < mnemoc> :D
21:36 < rxr> focus on your stuff - otherwise you get frustated and just loose your expensive time ,-)
21:36 < mnemoc> rpm broke hurted
21:36 < rxr> how did it broke ?
21:37 < mnemoc> i guess WRAPPER_APPEND
21:37 < mnemoc> gcc fails silently
21:37 < rxr> hm
21:37 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html#rpm
21:37 < mnemoc> sed -i '/^[COPY]/d;' package/*/*/*.cache
21:38 < mnemoc> how can i remove the first line if it's empty?
21:38 < mnemoc> 1 /^$/d; <--- something like this?
21:39 < valentin> mnemoc: use 1d or so
21:39 < valentin> oh - only if it is emtpy
21:39 < rxr> or just leave one empty line - it dues not hurt too much
21:39 < mnemoc> ok :)
21:39 < valentin> you could use the branch command but that is uggly
21:39 < jsaw> re
21:39 < valentin> hi jsaw
21:39 < rxr> hi jsaw !
21:39 < mnemoc> jsaw! hi
21:39 < jsaw> hi :)
21:40 < rxr> valentin: I map the native transfer to a memory transfer internally
21:40 < rxr> since we have some control flow logic in there - to prevent code duplication ...
21:40 < rxr> that is native transfer does -> memory transfer + ugly Quick Draw object creation ...
21:40 < valentin> ok
21:40 < rxr> and we could do file transfers that way ...
21:41 < valentin> so you call the callback ?
21:41 < rxr> use the Quick Draw object to dump a file ...
21:41 < rxr> however the performance would suck - due to all the many convertions thatn ...
21:41 < rxr> than even ...
21:41 < rxr> but who cares about performance of file transfers anyway ...
21:42 < rxr> valentin: callback? no - I call the objc method from there ...
21:42 < valentin> rxr: can't you create a QD object that fits our data format ?
21:42 < rxr> btw. I looked at the gimp souce - the twain module only handles single transfers ...
21:42 < rxr> the README says multi image transfers are disable since they did not work
21:42 < rxr> but I guess that mostly meant windows ...
21:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html#clisp :'(
21:43 < rxr> we could compile a custom gimp versoin ourself and take a look what it does when we #ifdef that code out ...
21:43 < valentin> i am too lazy to read commit mails - what changed in the linux2* packages since i left ?
21:44 < mnemoc> valentin: most failures on linux2* are due to third party packages
21:44 < valentin> rxr: perhaps they meant "the driver i tested with did not work"
21:44 < rxr> valentin: there was s.th. like "something stalls of freeze" but the osx stuff is new and I think the comment older
21:44 < rxr> so either it is generic gimp problem - or windows only
21:45 < rxr> I doubt that was tested at all on mac - especially since there are so few document scanners with osx driver ...
21:45 < rxr> valentin: why do you ask about linux* ?
21:45 < rxr> valentin: we have over 1500 packages now ...
21:45 < rxr> and a shiny copyright on all files ...
21:46 < rxr> svn up will update nearly every file ...
21:47 < valentin> rxr: i did the copyright update before i left
21:47 < valentin> i just asked about linux* because i want to fix my sh4 build
21:47 < mnemoc> and .cache in 5 minutes
21:47 < rxr> btw I got a mail that ther eis no 64bit libc for sh64 - and that it makes no sence - it would be inefficient and no hardware implements over 32bit physical address - not even the linux kernel on sh64 does use that high virtual addresses ...
21:48 < rxr> so sh64 is a normal sh build with sh64 kernel ...
21:48 < rxr> as sparc was previously ...
21:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: sh*t
21:48 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe optimization ... ?
21:48 < rxr> mnemoc: could you try if building for i386 makes clisp happy ?
21:49 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i do that for one package only?
21:50 < rxr> mnemoc: var_remove_regex GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT (or append - look where gcc/parse-config injects them) -m.*
21:50 < rxr> of course with " " in between ...
21:50 < mnemoc> ok
21:50 < rxr> or for a test
21:50 < rxr> GCC_WRAPPER_BYPASS=1 (or so=
21:50 < mnemoc> ok
21:51 < jsaw> mnemoc: gcl does not build also?
21:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: it's not on my list
21:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: disable the tests by a patch maybe?
21:52 < mnemoc> squaroid still broken :\
21:52 < mnemoc> jsaw: doesn'y the test show a real problem that will appear in runtime too?
21:54 < jsaw> hmmm.
21:55 < jsaw> it hangs in a print statement...?
21:57 < mnemoc> :(
21:57 < rxr> mnemoc: what is the squaroid error?
21:57 < rxr> maybe configure screaming about the dsp device ?
21:57 < mnemoc> yep
21:58 < rxr> ouhm - damn
21:58 < rxr> then the patch I deleted is still needed ...
21:58 < rxr> I thought it is not - must have misread the configure
21:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: WARNING: *FOREIGN-ENCODING*: reset to ASCII
21:59 < rxr> mnemoc: revert the deletion of the configure s.th. patch I deleted in that dir ...
21:59 < rxr> and rename it IIRC to the same .$xsrctar extension as the other patch has ...
21:59 < mnemoc> jsaw: uhm?
21:59 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:59 < jsaw> mnemoc: seems utf8 related problem
21:59 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- updated
22:02 < mnemoc> rxr: ipw2100 can use match_source_file -p hostap hostap
22:02 < rxr> yep - ack
22:03 < rxr> do you inject those changes ?
22:03 < rxr> I could, too ...
22:03 < rxr> so only if you are at it ...
22:03 < mnemoc> you :) with the patches mailed
22:03 < rxr> good - I have to reboot soon - since security updates got installed and a osx reboot is pending ...
22:03 < rxr> I could take a shortcut into linux ...
22:03 < mnemoc> good :)
22:03 < valentin> i will go to bed now
22:04 < valentin> so cu all and have good night
22:04 < mnemoc> cu valentin
22:07 < rxr> n8 valentin
22:08 < jsaw> cu valentin
22:11 < rxr> jsaw: how is life on your side ?
22:12 < mnemoc> surrounded by 5 women :)
22:13 < jsaw> I'm stressed out... too much to do... but I take the chance now that everybody is sleeping and watch Lethal Weapon 4
22:14 < jsaw> (there's a slight chance that I can watch a movie full length...)
22:14 < jsaw> .oO(don't remember when I watch something like this the last time)
22:14 < jsaw> ...and while this goes on I explore lua a bit :)
22:15 < jsaw> family is mostly fine
22:15 < jsaw> btw.
22:15 < rxr> ah - nice ,-)
22:17 < mnemoc> wealth is the only important thing :)
22:20 < jsaw> :)
22:27 < rxr> wow - 2+ hours or so of editing - wildly pasing to me so far unkonwn quick draw calls around - and only 2 errors in each file I edited ,-)
22:27 < rxr> I guess I take a shower before I give that code a try to actuallly transfer data ...
22:32 * rxr reboot
22:43 < mnemoc> rxr: squaroid wont find /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp here becasue i don't have sound :)
22:48 < Minto> mnemoc: I think the next one on the mailing list is for you.
22:48 < Minto> I just finished Sun jre and jdk 1.5.0
22:49 < mnemoc> if you want to maintain java stuff, feel free to take [M]
22:50 < Minto> I did in the sun packages
22:50 < rxr> re
22:50 < rxr> mnemoc: the removed patch removes that check ...
22:50 < rxr> resurrect it and rename it to *.$srctar as the other is - and it should build fine
22:51 < mnemoc> Minto: other java/* are available too :)
22:51 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
22:52 < Minto> I will have a look at them later. I intend to add loads of java stuff.
22:52 < mnemoc> rxr: why do you '/dev/dsp' instead of /dev/sound/dsp/ as the removed did?
22:52 < Minto> But first jvm's are required on other arch as well
22:52 < Minto> Now bedtime for me.
22:52 < Minto> gn8 *
22:53 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041110]"]
22:54 < rxr> mnemoc: because that is the IANNA naming - and the devfs is highly unportable / non standard ..
22:54 < rxr> we should default to the normal names with the devfs used ones only optinally ...
22:54 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
22:54 < rxr> remember soon we have not much devfs anymore and udev defaults to the IANA names ...
22:54 < rxr> however udev can of course easily be configured to map to the devfs names, too ...
22:55 < rxr> however I think any /dev implementation should at least provide the normal names - and do provide others for cosmetical / easy of read names only, optionally additionally ...
22:56 < rxr> mnemoc: do you apply the java ones ?
22:56 < rxr> and list Minto as maintainer of the other ones as well ...
22:56 < rxr> IIRC there is also a not yet applied java package improvement patch on the list for the existing packages ...
22:56 < mnemoc> are those 'final'?
22:57 < rxr> just apply them ,-)
22:57 < rxr> I think they have been incremental improvement patches ...
22:57 < rxr> I'm just injecting the ipw2100 one ...
22:57 < mnemoc> ok
22:57 < rxr> and flag Minto as [M] - fake is a bit obsolete ...
22:57 < mnemoc> rxr: you wont test?
22:58 < rxr> java ?
22:58 < rxr> the ipw2100 will be tested before commit of course ...
22:58 < rxr> I would rather avoid touching the java stuff right now ...
22:58 < rxr> I could however test the PowerPC binaries in some days ...
22:58 < mnemoc> ok
22:58 < mnemoc> i'll do java merges
23:02 < rxr> so ipw2100 injected and polished further - test running
23:03 < mnemoc> i have gatos broken here too if you want to continue playing with modules :)
23:03 < CIA-9> amery * r7763 /trunk/package/games/squaroid/squaroid_config.patch: * revived squaroid config.patch
23:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7764 /trunk/package/games/squaroid/ (config.patch.squaroid squaroid_config.patch): * renamed squaroid config.patch to apply to squaroid only
23:08 < mnemoc> tex -ini -progname=jadetex "&latex" jadetex.ini
23:08 < mnemoc> This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.4) (INITEX)
23:08 < mnemoc> ---! /usr/share/texmf-var/web2c/latex.fmt was written by pdfetex
23:08 < mnemoc> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
23:08 < mnemoc> make: *** [jadetex.fmt] Error 1
23:08 < mnemoc> pff
23:08 < rxr> maybe s.th. like lars fixed for xpdf ?
23:10 < mnemoc> jadetex
23:14 < mnemoc> squaroid built
23:15 < mnemoc> maybe s.th. like lars fixed for xpdf ? <-- i'm slow :\ what do you mean?
23:18 < rxr> mnemoc: there was also some construct in .tex source the relied on the other old engine of tetex used by default
23:18 < rxr> however with tetex 3.0 the engine changed ... - some tiny change was needed to make xpdf generate the docu or what it was ...
23:19 < rxr> package/graphic/xpdf/tetex3.patch.t1lib
23:20 < mnemoc> ic
23:20 < rxr> however I did not looked into the jade details
23:20 < mnemoc> i'll see if that works
23:20 * rxr rebooting into OS X ...
23:26 < rxr> so
23:31 < CIA-9> rene * r7765 /trunk/package/network/ipw2100/ (nodepmod.patch postlinux.conf):
23:31 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis and Rene Rebe:
23:31 < CIA-9> * fixed ipw2100 to use the actual hostap file
23:31 < CIA-9> * fixed ipw2100 to not run depmod (without version argument)
23:38 < CIA-9> rene * r7766 /trunk/package/network/ipw2100/postlinux.conf: * disabled ipw2100 for 2.4.* kernels ...
23:42 < rxr> weee! - despite a tiny wrongly set condition my new Quick Draw code works ,-)!
23:45 < mnemoc> :D
23:46 < mnemoc> 2 hours coding, 2 evident typos, 1:30 hunting, 1 logic error
23:47 < CIA-9> amery * r7767 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/mono.ask: * added mono-xsp to mnemosyne's asp.net module
23:52 < rxr> mnemoc: your side time or mine ?
23:52 < rxr> so linux24 builds again ..
23:52 < rxr> without ipw2100 ... ,-)
23:53 < mnemoc> rxr: yours :)
23:53 < mnemoc> i'm cleaning blackdown's patch :\
23:55 < rxr> poor mnemoc ...
23:55 < rxr> you could have applied it straight away ...
23:56 < rxr> or does it need that much cleanup ... ?
23:56 < mnemoc> not much
23:57 < mnemoc> now i have to wait for the downaload to test :\
23:59 < mnemoc> olddir="`pwd`" <-- stuff like this is a bit ugly :p
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