--- Log opened Fri Apr 08 00:00:03 2005 00:35 < CIA-9> amery * r8086 /trunk/scripts/functions: 00:35 < CIA-9> * improved bz2filename to support .gpg files 00:35 < CIA-9> * injected copyright note to scripts/functions 00:50 < CIA-9> amery * r8087 /trunk/scripts/Download: * improved Download to unsign .gpg files 00:51 < _jeru> mnemoc: .gpg files inside a tar ? 00:51 < mnemoc> nope 00:51 < mnemoc> tar inside .gpg 00:51 < mnemoc> lazyfs and zeroinstall 00:51 < _jeru> ah 00:51 < mnemoc> it's very weak, but it works 00:52 < _jeru> hehe 01:07 < mnemoc> opensourcecms.org 01:14 -!- Sparc-kly|G4 [~sparc@66.50.160.149] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 01:17 * mnemoc kicks the can he use as desktop 03:02 < mnemoc> 21:01:46] <@skwashd> lol .... Is Avant Browser a secure browser? 03:02 < mnemoc> [21:01:47] <@skwashd> Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer. 03:02 < _jeru> what that sh*t ? 03:03 < mnemoc> a paste :) 03:05 < _jeru> a paste of sh*t ? 03:05 < mnemoc> a paste from #phpgroupware 03:05 < mnemoc> :) 03:06 < _jeru> I knew it before ... shit 03:07 < mnemoc> :) 03:43 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has joined #t2 03:55 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.12.100] has quit ["Abandonando"] 03:58 < mnemoc> if [ $autogen -eq 1 -a \( -f configure.in -o -f configure.ac \) ] ; then <-- do we really need those configure files to run aclocal? 03:58 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:02 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has joined #t2 04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll do an 'evil' change on snort 04:02 < mnemoc> _jeru: i'll use $sysconfdir instead of $prefix/etc 04:03 < mnemoc> _jeru: what means /etc/opt/snort instead of /opt/snort/etc 04:05 < CIA-9> chris * r8088 /trunk/package/zope/i18nfolder/i18nfolder.desc: * added forgotten checksum 04:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8089 /trunk/package/security/snort/ (snort.conf snort.init): 04:05 < CIA-9> * cleaned snort .conf 04:05 < CIA-9> * improved snort by using pkgprefix 04:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8090 /trunk/package/zope/ploneicalendar/ (. ploneicalendar.conf ploneicalendar.desc): * added PloneiCallendar (1.0) 04:13 < mnemoc> :) 04:31 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.100] has joined #t2 04:31 < keinek> hi 04:31 < sparc-kly> keinek remeber t2-es :P 04:31 < sparc-kly> remember * 04:31 < sparc-kly> lol 04:37 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFF716.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 05:01 -!- ideal_ [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has joined #t2 05:06 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:49 < rxr> re 06:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr 06:50 < rxr> moin mnemoc ! 07:25 * rxr -> uni 07:25 < rxr> cu later 07:26 < mnemoc> cu rxr 08:39 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 08:48 < minto> Good morning all 09:42 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.6] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:04 < rxr> moin 11:11 < rxr> Ecasound 2.4.1 11:13 < CIA-9> chris * r8091 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver (0.30.203 -> 0.30.204) 11:13 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFB707.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:13 < _jeru> moin 11:15 < rxr> moin jsaw 11:15 < rxr> _jeru: even ,-) 11:16 < valentin> moin 11:17 < rxr> Linux 2.6.11.7 11:18 < rxr> moin valentin 11:18 < rxr> valentin: we have unionsfs now ... 11:18 < rxr> unionfs of course ... 11:19 < rxr> oh - and I implemented orphaned files tracking this morning ... 11:19 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++----- 11:19 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) 11:19 < _jeru> moin rxr, valentin :) 11:20 < _jeru> seems that linus doesn't like svn 11:21 < rxr> jsaw: svn does not work for the kernel - because linus wants full control and only himself to commit svn will be no help there ... 11:21 < rxr> it is just the scenario that hinders subversion to be used ... 11:21 < rxr> the linux kernel is a cathedral - not a bazzar ... 11:22 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:22 < valentin> rxr: we can point linus to submaster 11:22 < _jeru> haha :) 11:22 < rxr> no - I do not want him falling at the floor laughing - we need him coding ... 11:22 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:23 < rxr> I mean - after that quick hack he will never fully recover ... 11:25 < valentin> rxr: did you hear the helicopters last week ? 11:26 < valentin> there were much helicopters over berlin the last days. 11:26 < _jeru> valentin: ack 11:27 < valentin> today i hear in the news that they were experimenting with cameras to hunt down sprayers 11:27 < _jeru> hmmm ... sprayers ;) 11:27 < valentin> wtf ? now they are monitoring citizens with infrared cameras in the night ? to catch sprayers ??? 11:28 < _jeru> that's the offical story I think 11:28 < valentin> if that news had been a week earlier i would have mistaken it for an aprils fool 11:29 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 11:29 < valentin> anybody knows jet set radio ? 11:29 < _jeru> nope 11:30 < rxr> no 11:30 < _jeru> valentin .... powered by dj wowereit ? ;) 11:30 < rxr> I only listen to duetschland funk / radio or RBB Info or so ... 11:31 < rxr> and of course my favourite mp3 stream delivered our of france ... 11:32 < valentin> no - jet set radio is no radio 11:32 < _jeru> more :) 11:36 < valentin> http://www.gamecrazy.com/games/game.aspx?id=659 11:36 < valentin> the international title was jet grind radio 11:37 < valentin> they use helicopters and police tanks to hunt down sprayers, too 11:37 < rxr> lol 11:37 < valentin> i always thought that would be fiction 11:37 < _jeru> valentin so you know what's Otto is playing ;) 11:38 < valentin> in jet grind radio, you play the sprayers 11:38 < valentin> your main goal is to tag all targets in the level within a given time limit without beeing caught or shot down by the police 11:39 < _jeru> so so ... a "player" he is :) 11:39 < rxr> I thought he is plaing slamming the head against some wall until no brain is left at all ... 11:39 < valentin> he is playing innenminister 11:40 < _jeru> what brain ? 11:40 < rxr> does this include head slamming ... 11:40 < _jeru> hehe :D 11:40 < rxr> jsaw: yeah - I played too much 11:40 < _jeru> jeru 11:40 < rxr> he of course ... 11:40 < _jeru> the last I played spontanously was GTA 11:41 < rxr> formula one grand prix 3 was nice: 11:41 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/gp3/gallery.html 11:41 < _jeru> I liked to drive through the city in a Hummer listening music 11:42 < _jeru> rxr: do you have a steering wheel ? 11:42 < rxr> nope 11:42 < rxr> only some old joystick - hoever I once build pedals myself ... 11:42 < rxr> building a sophisticated set of peddals and wheel was on my TODO ... 11:42 < _jeru> hehe :) 11:42 < rxr> however some 2GB file limit once cut my TODO off ... 11:43 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 20 +++++++++++++++----- 11:43 < rxr> 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) 11:43 < rxr> ok - I commit that ... 11:43 < _jeru> rxr: a wheel really increases fun level 11:43 < rxr> pedals already did ... 11:43 < rxr> and running that windows game under linux was a nice satisfaction also ... 11:43 < _jeru> yeah ... of course with pedals 11:43 < rxr> just that 2 graphic issues have been a bit annoying ... 11:44 < rxr> my last ones have been built out of lego technik ... 11:44 < valentin> rxr: if you find that is satisfaction, you can come over and get harry potter running 11:44 < rxr> but they alrkeady rocked ...a 11:44 < rxr> valentin: is that my wife or yours ... 11:44 < _jeru> :D 11:44 < valentin> is that my t2 package or our your package ? 11:44 < rxr> gp3 cost me a whole night ... - only the playing thereafter was fun .. 11:44 < valentin> :p 11:45 < valentin> i spend some days 11:45 < valentin> during the last year 11:45 < valentin> but i have a partition left on the athlons hd, so i think i will just install a minimal windows for gaming 11:46 * _jeru thinks: these linux "fuzzies" doing everything not to switch the OS! taking all pain :) 11:46 < rxr> valentin: ?!?!? 11:46 * rxr kicks valentin ... 11:47 < valentin> rxr: why should i speend a week with that crappy emulator ? 11:47 < rxr> valentin: must I tell the BSA that you are going to install an unlicensed copy of Windows ?? 11:47 < rxr> okok - I come over and take a look ... 11:47 < _jeru> rxr: this my weapon to if my collegues flamming about linux ;) 11:47 < _jeru> too 11:48 < rxr> valentin: I hope this nice Slot A athlon never has seen windows code - and I hope for the nicely loving CPU that it stays so .. 11:48 < rxr> valentin: imaiagine it gets a heart attack on it's aging days ... 11:49 < _jeru> seems that rxr really takes care 11:49 < valentin> okok 11:49 < valentin> :) 11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r8092 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/: * prepared the 2.1.0-rc1 tag 11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r8093 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * introduced var/adm/olists to keep track of orphaned files 11:56 < _jeru> valentin: head line on Radio1: Schilly agains sprayes! ;) 11:56 < _jeru> against sprayers 11:59 < valentin> when there is nothing left todo for a minister ..... 12:02 < rxr> Build-Pkg | 7 +++---- 12:02 < rxr> 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) 12:02 < valentin> the game is set in a Neo-Orwellian future where the teen-agers of Tokyo are being subjugated by the government. 12:02 < valentin> so we live in 1984 12:03 < CIA-9> rene * r8094 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: 12:03 < CIA-9> * optmized olist creation by removing some redundant sed and cut 12:03 < CIA-9> invocations 12:03 < valentin> rene: moving them out of a loop ? 12:03 < _jeru> valentin: already heared that Otto wants to have it country wide 12:03 < rxr> valentin: no 12:04 < rxr> valentin: removing at all - from linear control flow 12:04 < rxr> but on a ooo flist it may save you 5 seconds ... 12:04 < rxr> (or even more - no idea - no ooo flist yet) 12:11 < valentin> breakfast 12:14 < rxr> ehrm - lunch here ... 12:16 < CIA-9> chris * r8095 /trunk/package/zope/i18nlayer/ (. i18nlayer.conf i18nlayer.desc): * added I18NLayer for Zope/Plone (0.5.6) 12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r8096 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * bumbed version to 2.1.0-rc2 12:20 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.100] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:25 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.100] has joined #t2 12:28 < CIA-9> chris * r8097 /trunk/package/zope/plonelanguagetool/ (. plonelanguagetool.conf plonelanguagetool.desc): * added PloneLanguageTool (0.5) 12:44 < _jeru> how can I filtering out {arch} directories while installing a package ? 12:45 < valentin> had my question concering temporary files been answerded ? 12:46 < _jeru> or could we even filter it like .svn directories ? 12:50 < rxr> valentin: no 12:50 < rxr> valentin: what is your quesiton ? 12:53 < valentin> is there an official $tmpdir or something for temporary files in t2 ? 12:53 < valentin> or should i hardcode /tmp 12:54 < rxr> mktemp is common practice .. 12:56 < valentin> ok 13:06 < CIA-9> rene * r8098 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.conf: * fixed linux-header for in-system builds ... 13:17 -!- ideal_ [~idealm_@222.65.119.4] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:29 < _jeru> have to go ... cu later 13:30 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFB707.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 13:52 < rxr> teset 13:57 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178180063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532 13:57 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005] 13:57 [Users #t2] 13:57 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ minto] [ rxr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 13:57 [ Davidcc6] [ keinek] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] 13:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 13:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 13:57 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 13:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 14:06 < rxr_> ok 14:06 * rxr_ now in 2.6.11.6 14:06 < rxr_> Linux version 2.6.11.6-dist (root@haudraufinix) (gcc version 3.4.3) #1 Thu Apr 7 23:24:24 CEST 2005 14:06 < rxr_> and DVB-T working - out of the box - all auto detected and firmware loaded by T2 hardware detection ... 14:07 < rxr_> my farther usually needs way more time to get his DVB-S card working under this OS called Windows ... 14:07 -!- rxr [~rene@e178151139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:07 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:03 < rxr> valentin: I reactivated one of my PPC embedded boards ... 15:03 < rxr> I plan to set the 5 port beast up as primary router here ... 15:03 < rxr> to save engergy costs due to the power consuming rs6k ... 15:04 -!- _jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 15:04 < rxr> it will run from a 128MB compact flash card ... 15:04 < _jeru> re 15:04 < rxr> hi jsaw 15:04 < rxr> _jeru: even .. 15:04 < rxr> damn 15:04 < _jeru> jeru :D 15:04 * rxr must not that fast on 15:05 * _jeru thinks rxr have to make up his mind ;) 15:05 < minto> hi _jeru 15:05 < _jeru> hi minto 15:05 < rxr> hi minto 15:05 < minto> hi rxr 15:05 < _jeru> so what are you talking about regarding booting from a flash card ? 15:06 * minto is listening carefully 15:07 < rxr> just that I resurrected my PPC board ... 15:07 < rxr> 5 ethernet ports ,-) 15:07 < rxr> for use as primary router here - my rs6k is consuming too much energy ... 15:07 < rxr> I only wrote that it will use a 128MB flash as root ... 15:07 < minto> Oehh, rxr gets big bills 15:08 < _jeru> rxr: what board do you use ? sounds interesting ! 15:09 < minto> _jeru: do you have that Compact Flash script cleaned up yet. Minto is still curious. 15:09 < rxr> oehm - motorola compact pci .. 15:09 < rxr> got them during rock linux times from a US telecomunication company ... 15:10 < _jeru> ahh cool 15:10 < rxr> the 4 port ethernet PCI mezzanine board alone is quite expensive ... 15:13 < _jeru> the small boxes from http://www.soekris.com/ are also quite interesting 15:15 < _jeru> ^ but no PPC boards 15:17 < _jeru> rxr: what do you think about the soekris boxes ? 15:19 < _jeru> minto: have not cleaned up my CF build scripts yet, sorry 15:22 < _jeru> made a prototype of a bridging fw / IDS system on a 1U appliance with 6 interfaces with it 15:37 < rxr> I once had a tiny 486 or so board in my hands one day ... 15:37 < _jeru> but ? 15:40 < rxr> nothing ... ,-) 15:40 < rxr> just scrolled over the side ,-) 15:40 < _jeru> hehe :) 15:41 < _jeru> thinks clifford had a soekris box for testing ... at least there is an article about it on rocklinux.org 15:44 < rxr> yep 15:44 < _jeru> rxr: but I guess you had no hands on it :) 15:46 < rxr> well - on one I had - the OpenBSD guy lent one to clifford - that was the 486 board I had in my hands 15:46 < rxr> later I think clifford brought an own one - but I do not remeber off hand what it was ... 15:49 < _jeru> rxr: and what was you overall impression of these boards 15:50 < rxr> well - I did not used them - I think some open bsd people are favouring them ... 15:51 < rxr> if the feature set (cpu and speed and such) are ok for you, ... 15:51 < _jeru> I guess you PPC board has better performance 15:51 < _jeru> your 15:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8099 /trunk/package/zope/plonepopoll/ (. plonepopoll.conf plonepopoll.desc): * added PlonePopoll (2.3) 15:53 < _jeru> rxr: how can I filter out {arch} dirs from arch versioning system ? 15:54 < _jeru> where is this done for svn and cvs ? 15:54 < rxr> jsaw: what ? 15:55 < _jeru> I've a package with an directory "{arch}" in it, which seems to belong to arch versioning system 15:55 < rxr> what do you want to do with it? just rm? 15:55 < _jeru> I just want to cleanup while unpacking the src tar 15:56 < _jeru> yep 15:56 < rxr> you have to copy them in some way ? 15:56 < rxr> hm - for .svn and CVS they are removed thereafter - after untag ? 15:56 < _jeru> yep 15:57 < _jeru> I know I could do this in conf, but it could be better for handleing it like svn and cvs 15:57 < _jeru> or not ? 15:58 < rxr> hm - they are just named arch ? 15:58 < rxr> I would not removed arch blindly by the build system .. 15:58 < rxr> e.g. in linux there is a arch directory ... 15:58 < _jeru> nope "{arch}" 15:59 < _jeru> with braces 15:59 < _jeru> in the case of "arch" I totally agree 16:02 < rxr> oh my god ... 16:02 < _jeru> What ? 16:02 < rxr> well - than add it to the usual place - grep scripts for CVS ,-) 16:03 < rxr> _jeru: omg what an ugly name ... 16:03 < _jeru> omg ? 16:04 < _jeru> rxr: what is the usual place regarding CVS ;) ? 16:04 < _jeru> at least where ? 16:04 < rxr> I would need to grep myself ... 16:04 < _jeru> ok I'll grep ;) 16:04 < _jeru> so what's omg ? 16:04 < rxr> functions 16:04 < rxr> oh my god ... 16:04 < rxr> scripts/functions 16:04 < _jeru> hehe :D 16:05 < rxr> lince 758 16:05 < rxr> line even 16:05 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has quit ["-ircnet bye"] 16:06 < _jeru> thank you rxr 16:06 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has joined #t2 16:13 < _jeru> rxr: have also to remove ".arch-ids" 16:14 * _jeru wonders about what damn crap somebody packs in a release tar :) 16:17 < rxr> yeah .. 16:17 < rxr> I also wonder ... 16:18 < _jeru> echo "Removing CVS, .svn, {arch} and .arch-ids directories ..." 16:18 < _jeru> egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt | 16:18 < _jeru> oops 16:18 < _jeru> rxr: works 16:19 < _jeru> should I commit our do you want to review it again ;) 16:19 < _jeru> or 16:21 < rxr> hm - maybe add a backslash to the 2nd curly, too 16:21 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.39] has joined #t2 16:21 < rxr> moin mnemoc 16:22 < _jeru> moin master mnemoc 16:22 < mnemoc> 'master' LOL :) 16:23 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru 16:23 < _jeru> hehe :) 16:23 < mnemoc> what happened to nzg? 16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 16:23 < mnemoc> i haven't seen him saying something in long time 16:29 < _jeru> rxr: egrep '(^|/)(CVS|\.svn|\{arch\}|\.arch-ids)(/|$)' untar.txt <- should be ok 16:30 < rxr> I think so 16:30 < _jeru> I'll comiit it 16:30 < mnemoc> filtering tla files? 16:31 < _jeru> if this crap is from tla ... yes ;) 16:31 < rxr> jsaw: tla == tom lord arch .... ,-) 16:31 < rxr> _jeru: ... 16:31 < rxr> damn 16:31 < _jeru> I should rename myself 16:31 < _jeru> ;) 16:32 < rxr> why do the few names here start with the same 4 letters ... 16:32 < _jeru> rxr: do you wanna establish a user name policy ? ;) 16:32 < rxr> nope ... 16:33 < mnemoc> _jeru: remove the underscore, to make happy :p 16:33 < rxr> mnemoc: my tab like _ ,-) 16:34 < _jeru> oh master is speaking 16:34 < rxr> just that I'm too fast on enter ... 16:34 < mnemoc> :) 16:34 < mnemoc> rene, the faster enter-presser in the net 16:34 < mnemoc> == 10:12:54 =[9]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.4 2.1.0-rc1]. 16:38 < sepp> huhu 16:39 < _jeru> hi sepp 16:39 < sepp> hi all 16:41 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 16:42 < sepp> content of pkg_foo_post.conf in package/*/bar is executed only if bar is in the pkg list? 16:48 < CIA-9> chris * r8100 /trunk/scripts/functions: * added support for removing {arch} and .arch-ids directories while untaring src files 16:51 < CIA-9> chris * r8101 /trunk/package/zope/placelesstranslationservice/ (3 files): * added PlacelessTranslationService (1.2-rc3) 16:53 < CIA-9> chris * r8102 /trunk/package/zope/plonenewsletter/ (. plonenewsletter.conf plonenewsletter.desc): * added PloneNewsLetter (2.3) 16:56 < mnemoc> sepp: yes 16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but if you add a new pkg_foo_post.conf you have to rebuild the tools 16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: Build-Tools 16:57 < mnemoc> sepp: but Build-Target use to detect the change and rebuild itself 16:58 < sepp> mnemoc: good, thanks 16:58 < mnemoc> sepp: parse-config files are always loaded 16:59 < mnemoc> bar/pkg_foo_{pre,post}.conf only loaded for 'foo' if 'bar' is enabled 16:59 < mnemoc> bbl 17:02 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 17:02 < rxr> hm 17:03 < CIA-9> amery * r8103 /trunk/package/base/gettext/gettext.desc: * changed gettext to build _also_ on stage 6, needed to build GNU.Gettext.dll (for now i'll try to building 6-9 every package needing this library) 17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe you please split the build of the mono gettext stuff out of the gettext package? 17:04 < rxr> I absolutely disagree to introduce stage 6 7 or 8 builds ... 17:04 < rxr> getttext 17:04 < rxr> mono 17:04 < rxr> gettest-mono 17:04 < rxr> what is the problem with that ? 17:04 < mnemoc> do whatever you want, i wont fight that 17:05 < mnemoc> i have to go 17:05 < jeru> cu later 17:05 < mnemoc> cu 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: cu ,-) 17:05 < CIA-9> amery * r8104 /trunk/package/network/lat/ (lat.conf lat.desc): 17:05 < CIA-9> * changed lat to build on stage 6 instead of 5 17:05 < CIA-9> * fixed lat to find GNU.Gettext.dll 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: you wrote you already fixed gettext-mono by changing the priority and building it in 3 ... 17:06 < mnemoc> didn't worked 17:06 < rxr> damn - seems I have to throw CPU cycles on the mono stuff ... 17:06 < mnemoc> mono needs stuff from stage 5 17:06 < mnemoc> from a finished stage 3 i mean 17:06 < mnemoc> anyway, i have to go 17:06 < rxr> cu 17:06 < minto> cu mnemoc 17:07 < minto> rxr: are .gem file sort of .rpm for T2? 17:08 < minto> Where can I find out more on .gem files? 17:10 < rxr> i the mine package ... 17:10 < rxr> gem is a tiny wrapper around .tar.bz2 ... 17:10 < rxr> in 2.2 we will remove this bad rock idea ... 17:11 < rxr> I would not spent too much time on it ... 17:12 < minto> I won't. I was just thinking. 17:12 < minto> Watch the mailing list. 17:14 < rxr> which mailing list ? 17:14 < minto> It is not there yet. 17:14 < minto> I am working on it. 17:14 < minto> It is regarding alternative system. 17:15 < rxr> hm - the serial output of the PPC board confuses me ... 17:18 < minto> The mail just went out. 17:18 < CIA-9> chris * r8105 /trunk/package/zope/ldapuserfolder/ (. ldapuserfolder.conf ldapuserfolder.desc): * added LDAPUserFolder (2.5beta2) 17:19 < minto> La la, Po, tinky winky, Dipsy la lala la la 17:19 * minto hears tele tubbies while working 17:20 < jeru> oh oh 17:20 < minto> Yes indeed 17:20 < jeru> poor kids 17:20 < minto> Oh of all together now. But Merlyn (my 18 month old son) enjoys it. 17:21 < minto> s/of/oh 17:32 < mnemoc> re 17:32 < mnemoc> rent finally payed 17:35 < CIA-9> chris * r8106 /trunk/package/zope/plonersssearch/ (. plonersssearch.conf plonersssearch.desc): * added PloneRSSSearch (1.1) 17:36 < mnemoc> jeru: i got libsafe failed on stage 9... i could't find libprelude headers 17:36 < mnemoc> it* 17:36 < jeru> oh yeah it's libprelude aware 17:36 < jeru> prio ? 17:36 < mnemoc> stage 9... the whole stage 5 is already built 17:37 < jeru> hmmm ... have to check later ... have to move now ... cu later in the evening. now it's bowling time :) 17:38 < mnemoc> stage 9 on build target is there to detect dependencies and problems when you are sure prio is not the issue 17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: :D 17:38 < mnemoc> jeru: good luck 17:38 < jeru> I think it's the prio ... check against libprelude if possible :D 17:38 < jeru> and thank you :D 17:38 < jeru> bbl 17:38 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 17:50 < mnemoc> rxr: have you read about arpwatch NG? 17:52 < mnemoc> Subversion 1.2.0-rc1 17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: when will we branch? on rc2? 17:53 < valentin> re 17:53 < rxr> ph 17:53 < rxr> puh even 17:54 < rxr> the ppc board only produced crap ... 17:54 < rxr> falling back into the in-system debugger ... 17:54 < rxr> some pressing on the ram and flash made it come up nicely again ... 17:54 < rxr> puh .. 17:55 < rxr> already feared I have to trash it ... 17:55 < rxr> MPU Clock Speed =367Mhz 17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz 17:55 < rxr> L2Cache: 1024KB, 147Mhz 17:55 < rxr> System Memory: 128MB, ECC Enabled (ECC-Memory Detected) 17:55 < valentin> rxr: what board ? the tfh one or the one you got before ? 17:55 < mnemoc> faster than what i'm using here :) 17:56 < rxr> the US telcom one .. 17:56 < rxr> the cPCI ... 17:57 < rxr> mnemoc: poor mnemoc ... 17:57 < valentin> mnemoc: cant you just solder your own transformer ? 17:57 < rxr> well a switching power suply one is a bit tricky ... 17:58 < mnemoc> valentin: there are no equivalent transformers here 17:58 < rxr> just had some examination about that 17:58 < rxr> puh 17:58 < rxr> maybe I have a T2 on the compact flash of that board soon ... 17:58 < mnemoc> 130W 19.5V 6.7A 17:58 < rxr> then I only have to find out which cPCI pins are wired to the 4 ethernet ports ... 17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: can you look at balsa? i don't understand the problem 17:59 < mnemoc> .oO( i didn't noticed you tagged rc1 )o 18:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I prepared the tag 18:00 < rxr> that is not yet final ... 18:00 < rxr> I just do not want to have the the ulist changes in there ... 18:00 < mnemoc> me neither 18:01 < rxr> and this forces us to get -rc1 some time soon ,-) 18:01 < rxr> maybe the board is even faster than my rs6k - with 1MB of L2 cache 18:01 < valentin> :) 18:01 < rxr> just that I'll not have storage on it ... 18:02 < rxr> hm - linux is cool - with wie 18:03 < mnemoc> with wie? 18:03 < rxr> either a fuse mounted or encrypted tunneled NFS I could write the irc logs out directly from this few Watt consuming board ,-) 18:03 < rxr> directly onto the remote server ... 18:35 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:43 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.209.103.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:45 < mnemoc> rxr: ML 18:46 < rxr> read it ,-) 18:46 < mnemoc> 3? 18:46 < mnemoc> squirrelmail at 640x480 is not highly productive 18:47 < mnemoc> at least firefox does good font sizing 18:49 < rxr> ,-) 18:50 < rxr> I'll meassure the ppc boards power consumption soon ... 18:50 < rxr> currently I drive it with a normal atx power supply - which's fan does not spin up .. 18:52 < mnemoc> my fan sounds like a truck 18:53 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.205.155.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:08 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 19:12 < keinek> hi 19:12 < _Ragnar_> hi 19:16 < rxr> damn is it long size I last used tftp ... and uploade booted those ppc boards over the net ... 19:18 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 19:21 < mnemoc> i have to set a tftp here ASAP 19:21 < mnemoc> but to load DOS images 19:21 < mnemoc> i don't know how to do that 19:21 < rxr> what denial of service are you planning =? 19:22 < mnemoc> freedos + netbios :) 19:22 < mnemoc> nbt to be precise 19:22 < mnemoc> brb 19:26 < mnemoc> re 19:27 < rxr> ok linux booting ,-) 19:31 < valentin> is there a clever way to read one line of user input (instead of messing with while read ; break ; ....) 19:31 < rxr> 1? 19:31 < rxr> just read? 19:31 < rxr> read in 19:32 < rxr> 7 19:32 < rxr> cpu : 740/750 19:32 < rxr> bogomips : 732.36 19:39 * mnemoc took boss' machine 19:39 < rxr> I notice again how ugly this f*cking 2nd stage hardcodings are - and how annoying to use the network install is ... 19:39 < rxr> hehe 19:41 < mnemoc> is portmap on stage2? 19:44 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.8.153] has joined #t2 19:46 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.100] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:46 < rxr> O -----5---- 189.400 network portmap 4 / base/system 0 19:46 < rxr> [P] X -----5---9 189.400 19:46 < rxr> the former was some custom target on the rs6k - sorry for confusion 19:46 < rxr> mnemoc: why do you want it in stage2 ? 19:47 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:47 < mnemoc> do mount NFS and get .gem files from there 19:47 < mnemoc> NFS without portmap is damn slow 19:47 < mnemoc> s/do/to/ 19:50 < valentin> rxr: where can i copy my dreamburn.sh helper script ? 19:50 < mnemoc> arch/sh ? 19:51 < rxr> maybe first into the target until we do arch bootcode stuff in 2.2 ... 19:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - 2nd stage you mean ? 19:52 < mnemoc> :p 19:52 < mnemoc> yes yes 19:52 < mnemoc> bootdisk's 2nd stage 19:53 < rxr> well that is another story ... 19:53 < mnemoc> it's part of the 'network install' story 19:55 < rxr> portmap might be included ... 19:55 < CIA-9> amery * r8107 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ncftp.desc: * updated ncftp (3.1.8 -> 3.1.9) 19:55 < rxr> does our default kernel include ip autoconfig ? 19:56 < mnemoc> uhm... if it does, it's not working 19:56 < rxr> hm - maybe 19:56 < rxr> of course the kernel does not do this per default ... 19:56 < rxr> you need ip=auto or so as boot option ... 19:58 < CIA-9> valentin * r8108 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * helper script to burn boot-able CDs for dreamcast 19:59 < mnemoc> i didn't know 20:01 < mnemoc> rxr: OT: e-utils failed here even after i replaced _all_ my tarballs with yours 20:02 < rxr> TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 16384) 20:02 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests . 20:02 < rxr> ip=auto ,-) 20:03 < mnemoc> great :) 20:05 < mnemoc> i just noticed stage 9 doesn't share ccache with stage 5 20:05 < rxr> hm - does not really work on that box right now 20:05 < rxr> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out! 20:05 < rxr> IP-Config: Retrying forever (NFS root)... 20:05 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests ...... 20:06 < mnemoc> pff 20:06 < mnemoc> udhcpd? 20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0 20:06 < rxr> Apr 8 20:06:10 obelix dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.2.181 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0 20:06 < CIA-9> valentin * r8109 /trunk/target/dreamcast/DreamBurn.sh: * copyright inserted into DreamBurn.sh 20:06 < mnemoc> :) 20:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I need to pull all out of the net - no userspace yet ... 20:06 < mnemoc> it was just delay 20:07 < mnemoc> udhcpd is the faster, lighter and simpler dhcpd server available 20:07 < rxr> delay? I doubt that 20:07 < rxr> the kernel is delaying for 20 seconds ++ ... 20:08 < mnemoc> ending DHCP requests ...... timed out! 20:08 < mnemoc> what was your DHCP server doing all that time? 20:08 < rxr> sending responses ... 20:08 < rxr> that is a kernel bug in some way ... 20:09 < rxr> my dhcpd works for anything else - and it is sending repsonses ... 20:09 < rxr> I doubt a 375 Mhz PPC with a higly optimized T2 on it is too slow to send resonses in time .. 20:09 < rxr> where the above is the server ... 20:10 < mnemoc> 'advanced' DHCP servers spend lot of time sending fancy responses 20:10 < mnemoc> not the one a simple client is expecting 20:11 < mnemoc> is es.tldp.org reachable from there? 20:12 < mnemoc> i got lot of timeouts from freedos dhcp client before i migrated from ISC's to udhcpd 20:14 < rxr> hm 20:14 < mnemoc> now with udhcpd all clients are happy 20:15 < mnemoc> but i haven't tried kernel's 20:21 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 20:24 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 21:36 < rxr> hm - I say ip=192.168.2.100 - and it sends DHCP requests out anyway ... 21:36 < mnemoc> hehe 21:45 < rxr> when I force via ip=192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 it works ... 21:45 < rxr> but it still asks the server ... 21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Got DHCP answer from 192.168.2.1, my address is 192.168.2.100 21:45 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete: 21:45 < rxr> device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=192.168.2.1, 21:45 < rxr> host=192.168.2.100, domain=localnet, nis-domain=(none), 21:45 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.45, rootpath= 21:46 < mnemoc> i think you request 192.168.2.100:255.255.255.0 to DHCP 21:46 < rxr> ? 21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.100 (255.255.255.0) from 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0 21:46 < rxr> Apr 8 21:43:44 obelix dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.100 to 00:01:af:02:15:53 via eth0 21:47 < mnemoc> :) 21:47 < mnemoc> kernel requested the ip/nm you suggested 21:47 < rxr> I thought ip=$someip is setting the IP - not asking some DHCP server if that could kindly be used ... 21:47 < rxr> yeah - but that stinks ... 21:47 < rxr> either I want DHCP - or I want to hardcode it ... 21:48 < mnemoc> maybe there is a nodhcp or alike option 21:49 < rxr> well - that is of course someone wants to enter of a 9.8kB serial line without backspace support ... 21:49 < rxr> one typo and you can press reset ... 21:51 < rxr> well - not that I can type at 9.6kbit - just that is is all slow ... 21:51 < mnemoc> :) 21:52 < mnemoc> i'll finally go to lunch 21:58 < rxr> cu then 21:58 < rxr> we take evening dinner now ... 21:59 < mnemoc> :) 22:03 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.13.188] has joined #t2 22:11 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.153] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:13 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 22:41 < rxr> SCSI Bus Reset on Debugger Startup [Y/N] = N? 22:41 < rxr> Network PReP-Boot Mode Enable [Y/N] = N? y 22:43 < rxr> ok - that makes .pplus images loadable ... 22:43 < rxr> damn is it already long time ago since I last powered up this board ... 22:43 < rxr> and I once had it all working ... 22:43 < rxr> damn rework ... 22:43 < rxr> at least this time it goes faster ... 22:44 < rxr> 0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed 22:44 < rxr> .OO 22:44 < rxr> this kernel seems to have some broken or so tulip driver ... 22:45 < rxr> Sending DHCP requests .<7>0000:01:04.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed 22:59 < rxr> weeeeee 22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete: 22:59 < rxr> IP-Config: Complete: device=eth0, addr=192.168.2.100, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=255.255.255.255, 22:59 < rxr> host=test, domain=, nis-domain=(none), 22:59 < rxr> bootserver=192.168.2.1, rootserver=192.168.2.1, rootpath= 22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.2.1 22:59 < rxr> Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.2.1 22:59 < rxr> VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem) readonly. 22:59 < rxr> Mounted devfs on /dev 22:59 < rxr> Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k init 23:00 < rxr> # free 23:00 < rxr> # free total used free shared buffers cached 23:00 < rxr> Mem: 127152 5080 122072 0 0 2180 23:00 < rxr> # cat /proc/cpuinfo 23:00 < rxr> processor : 0 23:00 < rxr> cpu : 740/750 23:00 < rxr> temperature : 23-25 C (uncalibrated) 23:00 < rxr> revision : 131.2 (pvr 0008 8302) 23:00 < rxr> bogomips : 731.13 23:00 < rxr> vendor : Motorola MCG 23:00 < rxr> machine : Mesquite cPCI (MCP750) + 23:00 < rxr> cool - board up over NFS 23:00 < rxr> tomorrow I'll prepare the CF card .... 23:00 < rxr> n8 all 23:00 < rxr> ,-) ! 23:01 < mnemoc> n8 rene :) 23:46 < jsaw> re 23:51 < sepp_> hi jsaw 23:51 < jsaw> hi sepp_ --- Log closed Sat Apr 09 00:00:04 2005