--- Log opened Mon Apr 11 00:00:04 2005 00:10 < valentin> hm, rxr is gone ? 00:11 < valentin> mnemoc: ? 00:17 < valentin> ok, fixed my problem 00:17 < valentin> imo somehow the actual build directory should be stored in the config 00:18 < valentin> it is annoying that every new tag the build breaks because $root changes 00:27 < sepp> i have to sleep - n8 all 00:27 < valentin> gn8 00:34 < CIA-9> valentin * r8169 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * set kernel output format for sh to zImage because sh-boot gets confused by other formats 01:19 < mnemoc> re 01:40 < keinek> compile something without error is good right? 01:40 < keinek> YIIIIIIIIIIIPY! 01:48 < mnemoc> :) 01:48 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFBF88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:01 < CIA-9> amery * r8170 /trunk/package/ (12 files in 12 dirs): * injected copyright note to new files 02:28 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.129] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:59 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.129] has joined #t2 03:04 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.44] has joined #t2 03:06 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.39] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:18 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.129] has quit ["Abandonando"] 04:34 -!- valentin [~valentin@port-212-202-41-157.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 05:46 -!- NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-132-90.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 05:48 -!- NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-132-90.epm.net.co] has quit ["A lo mejor tengo cosas mejores que hacer !!"] 05:48 -!- NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-132-90.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 06:12 -!- NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-132-90.epm.net.co] has quit ["A lo mejor tengo cosas mejores que hacer !!"] 08:19 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 08:26 < rxr> re 08:27 < minto_> moin 08:32 < rxr> hi minto_ 09:07 < CIA-9> rene * r8171 /trunk/package/develop/cmake/ (. cmake.cache cmake.conf cmake.desc): * added cmake (2.0.5) 10:29 -!- valentin [~valentin@port-212-202-41-157.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 10:29 < valentin> moin 10:29 < valentin> my irssi crashed :( 10:29 < valentin> second time this year 10:29 < valentin> did i miss something ? 10:30 < rxr> hi 10:30 < rxr> don't think os ... 10:30 < rxr> so even 10:30 < rxr> could you take a look if your irssi was exploited ? 10:35 < valentin> well - i fear that could be true, but how will i notice ? 11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r8172 /trunk/package/develop/small/ (. compile.patch small.cache small.conf small.desc): * added small (273) 11:01 < valentin> what is small ? 11:02 < rxr> a small scripting language we talked about 11:02 < rxr> like lua ... 11:06 < rxr> l */*/*.desc | wc -l 11:06 < rxr> 1571 11:37 < rxr> 1574 11:46 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.205.37.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:17 < rxr> re 12:50 < rxr> re 13:04 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.213.222.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:04 < sepp> hi 13:04 < minto_> hi Sepp 13:04 * minto_ minto 13:04 < minto_> oeps 13:05 < rxr> hi sepp and minto_ 13:05 < minto_> sepp: regarding the gimp plugins, have you considers creating a separate repository for them 13:06 < sepp> rxr: rs_main() in t2-src.conf tar $taropt $pkg-$rockver.tar.bz2; rm -f $pkg-$rockver.tar.bz2 13:06 < sepp> and the tarball is away ... 13:06 < sepp> minto_: no 13:06 < rxr> sepp: the forker rock-src was a bit strange - I cleaned it up and was not sure if the rm -rf is right there .. 13:06 < minto_> I don't know if it is a good idea, just came to my mind. 13:06 < rxr> sepp: if removing the rm leaves the right result remove it ,-) 13:08 < sepp> yes i did this, otherwise the gem is empty 13:08 < rxr> hm - second 13:08 < rxr> the tar should not be in the package - but the deflated tree? 13:08 < rxr> the bug is s.th. else ... AFAICS 13:11 < rxr> rm -f $pkg-$rockver 13:11 -!- freed [~freed@rom048.server4you.de] has joined #t2 13:11 < freed> hi all 13:11 < rxr> hi freed 13:12 < CIA-9> rene * r8173 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.conf: * fixed t2-src to leave the extracted file tree around 13:12 < rxr> sepp: could you test the above ? 13:13 < freed> re 13:13 < sepp> rxr: yup 13:17 < sepp> rxr: exit 1? 13:21 < rxr> sepp: ? 13:21 < sepp> why is it the last line of rs_main() 13:23 < sepp> if you delete the last 2 lines it you get a gem with the tree inside 13:23 < rxr> well - fix it as you see fit ,-) 13:26 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8174 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.conf: * fixed the fix :) 13:40 < sepp> hui my wacom works out of the box now :) 13:41 -!- freed [~freed@rom048.server4you.de] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 13:58 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178136216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 13:58 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Apr 10 22:39:26 2005] 13:58 [Users #t2] 13:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ Davidcc6] [ minto_ ] [ nzg] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] 13:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr] [ sepp] [ valentin ] 13:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 13:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 13:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 14:14 -!- rxr [~rene@e178172197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:15 < sepp> ahhh - ls -l / - drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 48 Apr 11 11:36 boot 14:15 < sepp> on the new installed t2 14:16 < valentin> re 14:55 < rxr_> re 14:55 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:04 -!- mtr [~michael@H8d8b.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 15:05 < mtr> hi 15:08 < CIA-9> mtr * r8175 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (23 files): 15:08 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.2.6 -> 1.3.23) 15:08 < CIA-9> * added some useful plugins 15:08 < CIA-9> * changed [L] to GPL 15:08 < CIA-9> * added myself to [M] 15:09 < CIA-9> mtr * r8176 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbsnoop/ (. dvbsnoop.desc): * added dvbsnoop (1.3.77) 15:12 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.213.222.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:12 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:16 < CIA-9> mtr * r8177 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.conf: * force directfb and v4l support 15:17 < CIA-9> mtr * r8178 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb++/ (. dfb++.desc): * added DFB++ (0.9.22) 15:22 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.198.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8179 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 15:28 < CIA-9> * updated minit (0.9.1 -> 0.10) - and fixed to build with glibc/uclibc 15:28 < CIA-9> * updated libowfat (0.21 -> 0.22) - and fixed it for cross builds and 15:28 < CIA-9> moved the priority before minit 15:29 < CIA-9> mtr * r8180 /trunk/package/network/zebra/zebra.desc: * updated zebra (0.94 -> 0.95) 15:30 < CIA-9> rene * r8181 /trunk/target/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 15:30 < CIA-9> * added libowfat to embedded and psion-pda (now needed by minit) 15:30 < CIA-9> * fixed embedded/build_image.sh to remove sbin/init before linking 15:30 < CIA-9> * fixed the embedded minit default/depends to use the new mountall 15:30 < rxr> re 15:30 < rxr> hi mtr !! 15:30 * rxr leaving the uni - cu 15:31 < mtr> hi rxr 15:31 < mtr> cu 16:04 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:54 < rxr> re 17:01 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.10.2] has joined #t2 17:02 < keinek> hi 17:04 < sepp> hi keinek 17:13 < mtr> re 17:32 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.198.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:36 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.10.2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:57 < rxr> jipie ,-) 17:57 < rxr> embedded now booting up with logins ,-)! 18:06 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.222.182.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:09 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8182 /trunk/package/x11/linuxwacom/ (6 files): * added linuxwacom (0.6.7) 18:23 < rxr> valentin: have you built linux26sh with shquashfs ? 18:23 < rxr> valentin: if you have too much free time, I need someone reviewing, why crosstools when cross built do not built df ... 18:28 < rxr> procps does also built cross ... 18:28 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8183 /trunk/package/audio/eq-xmms/eq-xmms.desc: * fixed a typo in the url 18:31 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.222.182.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:32 < valentin> rxr: not yet 18:32 < valentin> df is ? diskfree ? 18:32 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.222.182.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:32 < rxr> yes 18:32 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFD553.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:32 < _jeru> hi * 18:33 < rxr> hi _jeru 18:33 < rxr> jsaw: I updated minit and libowfat today ,-) 18:33 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 18:33 < rxr> jeru: even ... 18:34 < jeru> hi rxr :) wasn't able to finish my server migration yesterday :/ 18:34 < valentin> rxr: not build means "error when compiling" ? 18:34 < rxr> nope - builds fine 18:35 < rxr> just df is skipped due to confiure conditionals ... 18:35 < CIA-9> rene * r8184 /trunk/target/embedded/ (config.in rootfs/etc/profile): 18:35 < CIA-9> * added procps to the embedded target and extended the PATH assignment 18:35 < CIA-9> in the custom etc/profile 18:36 < rxr> -coreutils: bin/df 18:36 < valentin> ok 18:36 < rxr> that is the only prog missing when I diff system flist with the embedded cross flist 18:37 < rxr> the embedded image is now 5MB compressed 18:37 < rxr> 14M rootfs 18:37 < rxr> 5.0M rootfs.squashfs 18:38 < jeru> rxr: finetuning embedded target ? :) 18:38 < rxr> no extending ... ,-) 18:38 < rxr> getting more cross compiling and my embedded PowerPC board up 18:39 < jeru> btw.... does pcre cross-compile ? 18:40 < jeru> it could be quite handy for getting an IDS on a tiny box 18:42 < rxr> jeru: sooner or later we should get passed cross compiling past X ... 18:44 < jeru> rxr: I'll migrate my small bridge target too, but first I've to screw this damn CMS ;) 18:44 < jeru> rxr: now I know why you don't like CMS's :) 18:45 < rxr> 5.1M <- module tools added ... 18:45 < jeru> rxr: quite acceptable ;) 18:47 < rxr> I guess soon I have to review unionfs ,-) 18:48 < jeru> hehe :) 18:48 < jeru> ahhh ... somebody added lua package 18:50 < jeru> ohhh ... it was master rxr itself 18:50 < jeru> rxr: will you give lua a try ? 18:52 < rxr> yep 18:52 < rxr> I also added cmake and small ... 18:56 < jeru> hmmm ... ^ are interesting too 18:57 < valentin> i think i'll drive home now 18:57 < valentin> cu later 18:58 < jeru> cu 18:59 < rxr> the first sucking thing on small is, that it need the yet another make system cmake ... 19:01 < rxr> and AFAIHS has no install target ... 19:06 < jeru> hm... and what are your concerns regarding lua ? 19:07 < _Ragnar_> moin 19:08 < jeru> moin Ragnar 19:08 < _Ragnar_> hi jeru :) 19:09 < jeru> _Ragnar_: how is the live going, over there ? :) 19:09 < _Ragnar_> reasonably well:) 19:10 < jeru> good to hear :) 19:10 < _Ragnar_> how about you? 19:11 < rxr> 5.2M <- curl added 19:11 < jeru> _Ragnar_: also quite well ... just the damn machines ;) 19:29 < rxr> on my iBook the cross build embedded target works great 19:29 < jeru> rxr: :) 19:29 < rxr> only on the embedded board I get lots of noise on the serial terminal ... 19:30 < rxr> lots of "could not chown/chmod tty device" 19:30 < rxr> scrolling by 19:54 < CIA-9> chris * r8185 /trunk/package/printing/gimp-print/gimp-print.desc: * changed [O] to use gnome2-conf.in and not gnome14 anymore to satisfy gimp 20:00 < rxr> hm - damn 20:17 < rxr> hm - ok - fgetty works on a serial terminal 20:17 < rxr> now I only need to know where those amazing number of error messages result from 20:17 < rxr> I think I grab a fresh tea 20:19 < jeru> rxr: fgetty works on serial ? :) 20:19 < rxr> yes - maybe not intentional - but just pointing it to tts/0 gives me a login ... 20:20 < rxr> and without baud control (stays default I think) 20:20 < rxr> but works ... 20:20 < rxr> if you thow me a cable over you can get a login prompt of my PPC board ... ,-) 20:22 < jeru> hehe ... indeed that would be nice :) 20:23 < rxr> maybe the box is up with sshd soon ... 20:23 < rxr> 20:23 < rxr> Linux pda 2.6.11.6 #3 Sat Apr 9 10:18:38 CEST 2005 ppc unknown unknown GNU/Linux 20:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8186 /trunk/target/embedded/rootfs/etc/minit/ (10 files in 5 dirs): 20:28 < CIA-9> * added an additional fgetty on tts/0 instead of agetty (does not 20:28 < CIA-9> work with the fgetty login ...) 20:28 < CIA-9> rene * r8187 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * added modutils* and curl to the embedded target - and some comments 20:33 < CIA-9> rene * r8188 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 20:33 < CIA-9> * fixed minit to use localhost as default hostname and let psion-pda 20:33 < CIA-9> set pda and embedded use embedded as default 20:35 < rxr> valentin: I could make the embedded target output a Apple (tm) dist image - for one clikc OSX deletion ... ,-) 20:35 < CIA-9> rene * r8189 /trunk/package/base/minit/compile.patch: * fixed minit for rebuilds (remove FIFOs first ...) 20:35 < rxr> double click ok install onto your primary OSX volume - that would rock *g* 21:08 < rxr> ok folks: 21:08 < rxr> T2 based embedded system. http://www.t2-project.org/ 21:08 < rxr> 12:26:42 2005-02-03 -- 0 users online -- line [tts/0]. 21:08 < rxr> Welcome to embedded (T2 - Kernel 2.6.11.6). 21:08 < rxr> - 21:08 < rxr> embedded login: root 21:08 < rxr> root's password: 21:08 < rxr> utmpfd!=4 || wtmpfd!=5 21:08 < rxr> password checked 21:08 < rxr> -sh-3.00# 21:09 < rxr> # free 21:09 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached 21:09 < rxr> Mem: 127152 5752 121400 0 872 1596 21:09 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 3284 123868 21:09 < rxr> Swap: 0 0 0 21:11 < _Ragnar_> O_O 21:11 < _Ragnar_> what hardware? 21:12 < rxr> that is a 360Mhz PPC board with 2MB L2 cache and 128MB ECC RAM 21:12 < _Ragnar_> :) 21:13 < sepp_> can i crosscompile the emb. target, so that i can boot of a cf card and get a working ssh? 21:13 < rxr> yep 21:13 < sepp_> cool 21:13 < rxr> I cross build the above on my Athlon 21:13 < _Ragnar_> =) 21:14 < _Ragnar_> niiice 21:14 < sepp_> i will try my zaurus tomorrow 21:14 < rxr> faster build times and edit compile cycle than on either my 375Mhz RS6k or my 800Mhz iBook ... 21:15 < _Ragnar_> =) 21:16 < rxr> in fact the embedded targed is implemented to always cross build only ... 21:16 < rxr> it is my cross compile every testbed - it only will built stage 1 21:16 < rxr> and marks all the selected packages stage 1 only ... 21:16 < rxr> the psion-pda target builds in 45 minutes on my athlon 21:16 < _Ragnar_> is it hardware-specific? 21:17 < rxr> including cross gcc and kernel ... 21:17 < rxr> nope - select whatever you like 21:17 < rxr> however it is bare minimal 21:18 < _Ragnar_> that's okay 21:19 < _Ragnar_> we might be going into HID development later this year, and it's nice to see that there's already a framework :) 21:20 < rxr> human interface device? 21:23 < _Ragnar_> yes 21:25 < valentin> re 21:25 < sepp_> i like my now working hid :) 21:26 < _Ragnar_> ;) 21:27 < sepp_> the default linux / xorg wacom support is really strange 21:29 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.44] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:40 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.44] has joined #t2 21:40 -!- sparc-kly_ [~sparc@66.50.160.149] has joined #t2 21:41 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.160.149] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:48 < sepp_> someone around who has gnome2 installed? 21:49 < sepp_> i still have the gtk bug *grummel* 22:09 < CIA-9> rene * r8190 /trunk/target/embedded/ (6 files): 22:09 < CIA-9> * enabled the linux26 kernel for the embedded target and modified the 22:09 < CIA-9> kernel config to disable all the multimedia modules 22:09 < CIA-9> * disabled the old modutils for now 22:09 < CIA-9> * applied copyright patch 22:10 < sepp_> hmm i guess no one is using this crap :( 22:10 < rxr> sepp_: yeah - seems so ,-) 22:10 < rxr> I have gnome on my boxes - but nearly never start it ... 22:11 < sepp_> shit heisenbug in gtk+ 22:11 < sepp_> i have 2 apps i packed both the same bug 22:12 < sepp_> if i enable debug symbols in gtk+ the bug disappears 22:15 < rxr> you don't have the ld-as-needed enabled ? 22:16 < sepp_> no 22:16 < sepp_> not enabled 22:16 < sepp_> i had the bug in wired with wxw 25 and now in a gaim plugin - grrrrr 22:17 < sepp_> i dont like gaim but the plugin is nice 22:18 < sepp_> a big brother unfriendly crypto for gaim ... 22:18 < rxr> ,-) 22:19 < sepp_> like the cryptophone, everytime a new key 22:20 < sepp_> unlike gpg ... 22:23 < sepp_> my conclusion - otto developed gtk+ 22:32 < rxr> otto ? 22:32 < rxr> ah - yeah 22:32 < rxr> hm - the mac floppy driver builds on my full desktop target on ppc - but not in my embedded config ? 22:32 * rxr confused ... 22:32 < sepp_> otto s. our new dictator 22:33 < rxr> ah - that one ,-) 22:33 < sepp_> our == german 22:33 < rxr> you fear the extra heli observation? 22:33 < rxr> you are a sprayer, he ? 22:33 < sepp_> i fear orwells ideas 22:34 < sepp_> or bad (but right) visions 22:34 < rxr> yes - /me too 22:36 < sepp_> i O'ed it, should i commit it and hope that someone understands the gtk+ thing? 22:37 < rxr> you mean disabled by default ? 22:37 < sepp_> yes 22:37 < rxr> yeah - go and commit it ... 22:37 < sepp_> it compiles but does not work 22:37 < rxr> or even X it ... 22:37 < sepp_> because of the heisenbug 22:37 < rxr> so someone get's motivated to hunt the bug ... 22:38 < sepp_> hehe 22:38 < sepp_> gtk makes me sick 22:38 * rxr too ... 22:40 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8191 /trunk/package/network/libotr/ (. libotr.desc): * added libotr (2.0.1) 22:40 < CIA-9> sebastian * r8192 /trunk/package/network/gaim-otr/ (. gaim-otr.desc): * added gaim-otr (2.0.1) 22:40 < sepp_> i [P] X'ed it 22:40 < sepp_> maybe someone understands the gtk+ thing 22:41 < CIA-9> rene * r8193 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4: 22:41 < CIA-9> * do not enable the mac floppy driver any longer - our target audience 22:41 < CIA-9> does not really need it and it occaitionally fails to build in some 22:41 < CIA-9> bizzare kernel configs ... 22:43 < sepp_> the otr paper is really nice 22:43 < sepp_> together with tor ... 22:44 < rxr> Ubuntu harmful for Debian 22:44 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com 22:45 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10256 22:48 < sepp_> i love t2 ;) 22:48 < sepp_> thanks a lot for this nice linux 22:51 < rxr> sepp_: good to hear ,-) thanks for helping keeping it "spinning" ;-) 22:52 < rxr> jeru: I guess overlaying the whole embedded system's filesystem makes most sense, right ? 22:52 < rxr> like /mnt/root /mnt/dynamic-config and then mount -t unionfs none / -o dirs=/mnt/root:/mnt/dynamic-config 22:53 < sepp_> i am proud if i can help with my silly patches ;) 22:54 < rxr> they are not silly 8-) 22:54 < rxr> e.g. we need a rich package set to keep attracting people 22:56 < sepp_> but this will not work with this name and site 22:56 < sepp_> i like art but i had nothing in my mind about t2 22:56 < sepp_> the name really sucks - sorry 22:57 < rxr> hehe - well as you might already read somewhere, it was just the name I grabbed for the svn repository when I /had to fork rock/ - it got too known to change it now ... 22:57 < rxr> at least that was the consensus so far 22:57 < sepp_> i made some sketches about a logo but this name ... 22:58 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 22:58 < rxr> maybe just don't use the name as base - the linux, freebsd, debian, suse, ... logo also have nothing to do with the name 22:58 < sepp_> there was a discussion on the rock ml about 2.1 or whatever - open rock inspired me 22:59 < rxr> jeru: maybe even this would work: mount -t unionsfs none / -o dirs=/mnt/dynamic-config:/ 23:01 < rxr> jeru: valentin: Unionfs Snapshots 23:01 < rxr> With the unionctl utility, Unionfs's branch configuration can change on the fly. New branches can be added anywhere in the union, branches can be removed and read-write branches can be marked read-only (or vice versa). This flexibility allows Unionfs to create filesystem snapshots. In this example, we use Unionfs to create a snapshot of /usr while installing a new package: 23:02 < sepp_> rxr: with open rock as name i saw a penguin grilling a (openbsd)fish on a vulcano in my mind, but i found nithing with t2 23:02 < rxr> wow - that is really beautiful 23:02 < rxr> well - we indeed need better promotion 23:02 < rxr> if we can not come up with a decent logo we might need to change the name indeed 23:03 < rxr> despite that the german telekom might become upset ... 23:03 < rxr> sepp_: if you make a fantastic logo for an alternative name, there is not much stopping us from renaming ... 23:03 < sepp_> rxr: good to know 23:04 < sepp_> i will try to find a name / logo 23:04 < sepp_> the only thing i had in mind was a 3d gcc taking tarballs and outputting gems 23:05 < rxr> good prmotion is really sensetive for me - and what was and is one of ROCKs biggest issues 23:05 < rxr> sepp_: gems will one day be gone btw ... 23:05 < sepp_> yes 23:05 < rxr> we will convert back to traditional tarballs - since gems gain us nothing but complexetiy ... 23:05 < sepp_> but it was my only t2 idea 23:06 < rxr> :-( 23:06 < sepp_> a belt conveyor with src on one side and obj's on the other 23:06 < sepp_> and the gcc monster in the middle 23:11 < CIA-9> rene * r8194 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4: 23:11 < CIA-9> * removed the just commented MAC_FLOPPY and comment at all, since the 23:11 < CIA-9> this way enabled module builds fine for the "bizarre" config 23:16 < sepp_> hmm i have in mind a leading penguin with a tree over shoulder (at the end a glass with the openbsd fish) wearing a hurd flag - what do you think ? 23:17 < sepp_> a tree with nil nodes 23:19 < rxr> sound interesting ,-) 23:20 -!- sparc-kly|univ| [~universit@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 23:22 < sepp_> i will make some sketches tomorrow 23:23 < sepp_> my intuos2 works ... 23:28 < sepp_> i see tux with his 2 friends on a long road to finish build-target ;) 23:33 < _Ragnar_> re 23:33 < rxr> sepp_: maybe s.th. like that makes more a poster than the tiny slick logo ? 23:33 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_ 23:34 < sepp_> tux with a wood over his shoulder in the tree, in the tree a aquarium with the openbsd fish holding a hurd flag 23:34 < sepp_> guiding to the t2 castle? 23:35 < sepp_> on a hill 23:35 < rxr> hehe 23:36 < sepp_> you like/understand the picture ? 23:36 < rxr> yep - but it makes more of a poster - than the tiny logo, no ? 23:36 < rxr> like the OpenBSD posters 23:37 < sepp_> i will test some sketches 23:37 < rxr> ok - you get our PR poster chief ,-) 23:37 < sepp_> at least i had some good ideas 23:39 < sepp_> hehe 23:44 < rxr> cool the unionfs tools cleanly cross build ... 23:45 < rxr> and squashfs also installing into the tools dir as requested by the build system 23:45 * rxr happy ... 23:47 < CIA-9> rene * r8195 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: 23:47 < CIA-9> * added unionfs and squashfs-tools to the embedded target - unionfs 23:47 < CIA-9> tools are cross build into the new system - and squasfs installs 23:47 < CIA-9> as stage0 build into the tools dir - Squashfs also patches the 23:47 < CIA-9> kernel and unionfs extends the kernel with and additional module. 23:51 < sepp_> i need to sleep - n8 all 23:52 < rxr> cu sepp_ --- Log closed Tue Apr 12 00:00:04 2005