T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-21
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--- Log opened Sat May 21 00:00:10 2005
--- Day changed Sat May 21 2005
00:00 < valentin> jsaw seems to be lurking for special numbers :)
00:00 < mnemoc> 1000 per month on T2 era
00:00 < rxr> mnemoc: missing log is most probably change in branch
00:00 < valentin> what about 7777, 8888 .... ?
00:00 < mnemoc> r8888 | amery | 2005-05-15
00:01 < mnemoc> r7777 | amery | 2005-03-26
00:01 < mnemoc> r6666 | rene | 2005-02-19
00:01 < mnemoc> r5555 | mnemoc | 2005-01-13
00:07 < rxr> so - a few seconds and I'm ready
00:07 < valentin> so am i
00:08 < rxr> do you wait or commit *g* ?
00:08 < valentin> i just wait a minute
00:08 < valentin> or do you have one update only ?
00:08 < rxr> 2 adds
00:09 < valentin> i have to wait for the make flist wrapper to finish and at least start asy once before i commit
00:10 < valentin> works
00:10 < rxr> 2nd
00:10 < valentin> so i can commit if you want
00:10 < rxr> no
00:11 < mnemoc> valentin: don't push him :)
00:11 < rxr> done
00:12 < rxr> go with 9001 ,-)
00:12 < rxr> should I announce to the list ?
00:12 < CIA-3> rene * r8999 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/ (. hylafax.conf hylafax.desc no-init.patch): * added hylafax (4.1.8) - rejected ROCK Linux submaster patch with fixes
00:12 < valentin> hehe
00:12 < rxr> subversion 1.2.0 tarballs up for testing/signing
00:13 < CIA-3> rene * r9000 /trunk/package/filesystem/p3nfs/ (. compile.patch fixed-serial.patch p3nfs.desc): * added p3nfs (5.18) - rejected ROCK Linux submaster patch with fixes
00:14 < CIA-3> valentin * r9001 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/ (asymptote.conf asymptote.desc): * updated asymptote (0.76 -> 0.78)
00:17 < mnemoc> :)
00:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9002 /branches/2.1/package/zope/zope/ (stone_mod_zope.sh zope-conf.in):
00:18 < CIA-3> * merged 8903 from trunk: improved zope-conf.in to remove path for srcdir
00:18 < CIA-3> * merged 8939 from trunk: improved stone/mod_zope to uninstall products with broken links on request
00:21 < CIA-3> amery * r9003 /branches/2.1/package/zope/zope/zope.desc: * merged 8940 from trunk: updated zope (2.7.5 -> 2.7.6)
00:21 < valentin> maybe there will be 9009 before i go to bed :)
00:21 < rxr> oh - and the changeset start raining again ,-)
00:21 < rxr> I go now ...
00:22 < rxr> livecd build started ...
00:22 < rxr> that is to track regressions ...
00:22 < rxr> n8 all - cu soon
00:22 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
00:22 < valentin> gn8 rxr and sleep well
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01:52 < valentin> gn8
02:34 < mnemoc_> gn8 valentin
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03:44 < CIA-3> amery * r9004 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * fixed bdb java examples to build with kaffe
04:53 < CIA-3> amery * r9005 /trunk/package/database/bdb/ (bdb-conf.in libjdir.patch):
04:53 < CIA-3> * improved bdb to support a different libdir for java files
04:53 < CIA-3> * improved bdb to use libdb_java-${ver:0:3}.jar by makeopt instead of install_wrapper
05:24 < CIA-3> amery * r9006 /branches/2.1/package/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
05:24 < CIA-3> * merged 9004 from trunk: fixed bdb java examples to build with kaffe
05:24 < CIA-3> * merged 9005 from trunk: fixed bdb to install all it's java files on opt/java/lib, and as libdb_java-${ver:0:3}.*
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06:47 < CIA-3> amery * r9007 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/ (libjdir.patch noinst-default.patch):
06:47 < CIA-3> * patched bdb33 to support libjdir, as we did for bdb
06:47 < CIA-3> * fixed bdb33 to not share default libjso
06:53 < CIA-3> amery * r9008 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xorg/startxdm.sh: * merged 8893 from trunk: fixed startxdm to set PATH
07:13 < CIA-3> amery * r9009 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/bdb33.desc: * marked bdb33 as KAFFE
07:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9010 /branches/2.1/package/database/bdb33/ (bdb33.desc libjdir.patch noinst-default.patch):
07:19 < CIA-3> * merged 9007 from trunk: patched bdb33 to support libjdir, and fixed to not share libjso
07:19 < CIA-3> * merged 9009 from trunk: marked bdb33 as KAFFE
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08:16 < CIA-3> amery * r9011 /branches/2.1/package/java/java-dirtree/java-jdk-conf.in:
08:16 < CIA-3> * added java-jdk-conf.in (copy of java-common-conf.in) to be used for JDKs and JREs
08:16 < CIA-3> * improved JDK's profile file to export also MANPATH
08:17 < mnemoc_> aaarg!
08:17 < mnemoc_> that was for trunk! dammit
08:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9012 /branches/2.1/package/java/java-dirtree/java-common-conf.in: * changed java-common-conf.in, jdk_populate_profile is not needed in this context
08:17 < mnemoc_> hey!
08:17 < mnemoc_> that one too
08:18 < mnemoc_> now i'll have to fix kaffe on the branch :(
08:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9013 /branches/2.1/package/java/kaffe/ (kaffe.conf kaffe.desc): * changed kaffe to use java-jdk-conf.in
08:39 < CIA-3> amery * r9014 /trunk/package/java/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * merged 9011,9012,9013 from 2.1: java-common-conf.in forked in java-jdk-conf.in, and kaffe changed to use the later
08:43 < rxr> re
08:45 < CIA-3> rene * r9015 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.conf: * fixed typo in udev script installation
08:48 < rxr> == 08:46:35 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.5 2.2.0-alpha].
08:48 < rxr> so - gcc 3.4.4 works so far - no regressions ...
08:49 < rxr> oh - damn ...
08:50 < rxr> I used the cache ..
08:50 < rxr> no wnder it all built *g*
08:51 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
08:51 < CIA-3> amery * r9016 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-jdk-conf.in:
08:51 < CIA-3> * improved java-jdk-conf.in to set a JRE profile if $1=jre
08:51 < CIA-3> * fixed typo in java-jdk-conf.in when exporting MANPATH and PATH
08:54 * rxr breakfast
09:02 < CIA-3> amery * r9017 /trunk/package/java/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * changed sun-{jdk,jre}-142 to source a common java-sun-conf.in which extends java-jdk-conf.in
09:06 < CIA-3> amery * r9018 /trunk/package/java/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * changed sun-{jre,jdk}-150 to use generic java-sun-conf.in
09:27 < CIA-3> amery * r9019 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-142/java-sun-conf.in: * fixed missing / on java-sun-conf.in
09:31 < rxr> sound a bit like a #java channel here these days ...
09:34 < mnemoc_> i hope to finish this crap soon
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.system.lock
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.systemRootModFile
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/mailcap
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/mime.types
09:35 < mnemoc_> puaj
09:35 < mnemoc_> minto!
09:40 < CIA-3> amery * r9020 /branches/2.1/package/java/ (10 files in 5 dirs):
09:40 < CIA-3> * merged 9016,9019 from trunk: improved java-jdk-conf.in to set a JRE profile if $1=jre, and bug injected in 9011
09:40 < CIA-3> * merged 9017,9018 from trunk: changed sun-{jdk,jre}-{142,150} to source a common java-sun-conf.in which extends java-jdk-conf.in
09:41 < mnemoc_> to much java for tonight
09:41 < mnemoc_> gn8 rxr
09:41 < rxr> n8 mnemoc_ #
09:42 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'll be away one or two days... changes on the electric network of my shell box, can you ask minto about those files on sun-{jdk,jre}-150 if you see him?
09:44 < mnemoc_> i'll commit some updates merges from the shadows anyway
09:44 < mnemoc_> gn8
09:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: ok - I ask minto
09:45 < rxr> but he said he is a few days holidaying with the famili, oo
09:45 < rxr> family or so anyway
09:45 < rxr> sleep well and greetings to you family
09:54 < CIA-3> rene * r9021 /trunk/package/develop/libowfat/ (dietlibc.patch libowfat.conf libowfat.desc): * updated libowfat (0.22 -> 0.23)
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10:13 < CIA-3> amery * r9022 /trunk/package/xfce4/dbh/dbh.desc: * updated dbh (1.0.22 -> 1.0.24)
10:14 < CIA-3> amery * r9023 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc: * updated gtk-xfce-engine2 (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7)
10:15 < CIA-3> amery * r9025 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/libxfce4util.desc: * updated libxfce4util (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:15 < CIA-3> amery * r9024 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs.desc: * updated libxfce4mcs (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9026 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.desc: * updated libxfcegui4 (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9030 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-icon-theme/xfce4-icon-theme.desc: * updated xfce4-icon-theme (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9029 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-iconbox/xfce4-iconbox.desc: * updated xfce4-iconbox (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9027 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * updated xfcalendar (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9028 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/xfce4-appfinder.desc: * updated xfce4-appfinder (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9034 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systray/xfce4-systray.desc: * updated xfce4-systray (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9031 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/xfce4-mixer.desc: * updated xfce4-mixer (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9032 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel.desc: * updated xfce4-panel (4.2.1.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:21 < CIA-3> amery * r9033 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.desc: * updated xfce4-session (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:22 < CIA-3> amery * r9035 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-toys/xfce4-toys.desc: * updated xfce4-toys (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:22 < CIA-3> amery * r9038 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:23 < CIA-3> amery * r9039 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-utils/xfce-utils.desc: * updated xfce-utils (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:23 < CIA-3> amery * r9037 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-manager (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:26 < CIA-3> amery * r9036 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-trigger-launcher/xfce4-trigger-launcher.desc: * updated xfce4-trigger-launcher (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:27 < CIA-3> amery * r9040 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * updated xfdesktop (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:29 < CIA-3> amery * r9041 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * updated xfprint (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:30 < CIA-3> amery * r9043 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4-themes/xfwm4-themes.desc: * updated xfwm4-themes (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:31 < CIA-3> amery * r9042 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4.desc: * updated xfwm4 (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
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10:32 < CIA-3> amery * r9044 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/xffm.desc: * downdated xffm (4.3.1.0 -> 4.2.2) - no reason to have it from devel branch
10:32 < CIA-3> rene * r9045 /trunk/package/network/gatling/ (. gatling.cache gatling.conf gatling.desc): * added gatling (0.8)
12:15 < rxr> hm - my main powerpc routers glibc is defect with ipv6 ...
12:15 < rxr> anyway - compiled the app with dietlibc now ... - works ..
12:15 < rxr> no time for hours of glibc rebuilds ...
12:21 < valentin> moin
12:21 < valentin> 9045 ???
12:23 < rxr> yep
12:25 < rxr> T2 is not ROCK ,-)
12:26 < CIA-3> rene * r9046 /trunk/package/ (develop/libowfat/libowfat.desc network/gatling/gatling.desc): * marked libowfat and gatling dietlibc-able
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12:27 < jeru> moin
12:28 < rxr> moin jeru
12:28 < rxr> DSL @home again ?
12:28 < rxr> hm - gatling still has some issue on PPC
12:28 < jeru> rxr: I send you a mail with a new livecd test
12:28 < rxr> oh - sueccess ?
12:28 < rxr> -e
12:28 < jeru> rxr: yes
12:28 < rxr> cool!
12:29 < rxr> jeru: have you booted from a USB CD-ROM so far ?
12:29 < jeru> rxr: nope ... I could on monday
12:30 < jeru> rxr: we've an ancient external USB CD burner at work
12:30 < rxr> jeru: as usual only if time permits ,-)
12:31 < jeru> rxr: btw, the last livecd logs are from the same athlon box at home ... just replace the graphic card
12:31 < jeru> rxr: testing the usb cdrom shouldn't eat much time ;)
12:32 < rxr> ok - thanks!
12:32 < jeru> rxr: can you add clamav to the livecd ?
12:33 < jeru> rxr: or do you have restrictions from the magazine regarding what to place on it ?
12:34 < rxr> well - the first is "our" livecd anyway ...
12:34 < jeru> ah ok
12:34 < rxr> why would you like to see it on the t2 live cd ?
12:34 < jeru> just for using it as a tool to clean some infected machines
12:36 < jeru> rxr: do you have some plans regarding the deployment of targets via livecd ?
12:36 < valentin> we could create a t2 win rescue targets
12:37 < jeru> valentin: hehe ... with a OS repplacement wizzard too ;)
12:37 < valentin> featuring antivir software and an ooo to repair crashing word documents
12:38 < jeru> valentin: ack ...
12:38 < rxr> jeru: I'll sort in all the remaining livecd bits into the trunk over the next days / week
12:38 < jeru> I thought even about having bacula on it
12:38 < jeru> rxr: ok
12:39 < rxr> I would say other custom target could "inherit" the livecd code as the psion-pda or dreamcast ones inherit form embedded
12:39 < rxr> yep - newer glibc (on my iBook) work with gatling ...
12:39 < rxr> crap glibc junk ...
12:39 < jeru> bacula could be used to backup/restore machines
12:40 < jeru> rxr: ack .. a smart integration of the livecd framework would be nice
12:42 < rxr> smarter than the usual inheritance style ?
12:43 < jeru> rxr: atm ... nop ;)
12:43 < jeru> nope
12:45 < jeru> rxr: btw, do you have special plans for using gatling ?
12:49 < rxr> I just wanted to test it ,-)
12:49 < rxr> it has some problems on my PPC box I just investigate
12:49 < rxr> just having this tiny yet powerful thing handy is nice - no concrete plans yet
12:49 < rxr> but ad-hoc starting in some dir is a nice to have
12:51 < jeru> hehe :)
12:54 < rxr> oh - and it does ftp ...
12:55 < jeru> yes .. I know
13:00 < jeru> gatling can now also do fallback redirects <-- README.redirect :)
13:00 < rxr> hm - on my iBook gatling works ..
13:01 < jeru> :)
13:02 < rxr> damn outdated ROCK crap on my router ...
13:03 < CIA-3> rene * r9047 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
13:03 < CIA-3> * fixed gatling and libowfat to build after dietlibc and adapted
13:03 < CIA-3> slidentd according to the new libowfat priority
13:03 < CIA-3> * injected gatling checksum
13:05 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/
13:05 < rxr> ^- t2 rank #2
13:06 < jeru> :D
13:07 < jeru> hmmm ... rank 5 if I open the page
13:16 < rxr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/19/fujitsu_faster_sparc/
13:16 < rxr> ah - dietlibc update helped ...
13:19 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/
13:19 < rxr> ^- gatling
13:20 < rxr> not that 786MB or RAM would be too less for apache - just a testbed ,-)
13:20 < rxr> so - we get some good for lunch - cu soon
14:00 < rxr> re
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15:08 < rxr> re
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15:59 < rxr> hi mtr
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16:24 < CIA-3> rene * r9048 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/mkinitrd: * implemented explicit version specification for mkinitrd
16:25 < CIA-3> rene * r9049 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf:
16:25 < CIA-3> * removed obsolete empty flag from linux24 mkinitrd execution, we
16:25 < CIA-3> implant any useful module in the new "fully modular" concept
16:40 < rxr> "Well, right now, ProPolice stops at GCC 3.4. No one has a working ProPolice for GCC 4.0. No one is devoting enough resources to ensure this will happen. And you think we will switch to GCC 4.0? Think again.
16:40 < rxr> Instead, GCC 4.0 will ship with a framework called mudflap, which does about as much as "flap, flap, flap" flying through code. It catches one valid bound violation every April the 1st, and complains about valid code every other day of the year.
16:40 < rxr> No ProPolice in sight."
16:40 < rxr> ^- http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/05/19/openbsd_3_7.html
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17:21 < valentin> hm, once again my framebuffer was in a bad state after idling a while
17:21 < valentin> btw: mnemoc is second most active developer due to cia
17:39 < rxr_> valentin: the former is not so good
17:39 < rxr_> I call your shortly ...
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17:40 < rxr> line busy ...
17:40 < rxr> valentin: can you tell me the download URL for the w-lan driver you need for your usb card?
17:40 < rxr> or is it in mainline already ?
17:40 < valentin> rxr: nope - mom
17:41 < valentin> there were three drivers for that device, but only one was working properly a year ago
17:42 < valentin> ok, the source file was called at76c503a-cvs.tar.bz2
17:42 < valentin> http://at76c503a.berlios.de/
17:43 < valentin> imo this is the only driver that is endianess-clean
17:43 < rxr> is it under active development ?
17:43 < valentin> there is another one for x86 on sourceforge
17:43 < rxr> I would package it in the later case for t2
17:43 < rxr> (right now=
17:43 < rxr> ) even
17:44 < valentin> at least the berlios one supports 2.6 in trunk now
17:44 < valentin> so there was at least one new version during the last year
17:45 < valentin> ouhm - wait
17:45 < valentin> nope
17:45 < valentin> you still need cvs for 2.6.x ???
17:46 < valentin> damn cr*p
17:46 < valentin> now i remember why there is no t2 package yet
17:47 < rxr> we have CVS checkout ...
17:48 < rxr> (what clifford wants to remove from ROCK *g*)
17:49 < rxr> 2.2 is ig a good shape,too
18:23 < rxr> valentin: so I package the above onw?
18:23 < rxr> now even ...
18:24 < valentin> you could search for a revision that compiles ,)
18:24 < valentin> and i can do the testing part
18:27 < rxr> you need firmware for the device ?
18:27 < rxr> http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/atmel-firmware-1.3.tar.gz
18:28 < valentin> rxr: oh ?
18:29 < valentin> never downloaded this one
18:31 < rxr> the latest change on the project cvs was 2 month ago ..
18:31 < rxr> not over active ..
18:31 < rxr> replaced usb_unlink_urb by usb_kill_urb for >= 2.6.10 (as posted by Deuce Jan 3, 2005)
18:32 < rxr> - at76c505a-rfmd2958.c: added Gigaset11 (0x1690/0x0701) (thanks to Mike Pinna)
18:32 < rxr> - added patch to support HP iPAQ h5[45]xx (see email by Erik Hovland, 28 Febr 2005)
18:35 < rxr> the orig. sourceforge hosted project does not look more active ...
18:35 < valentin> well
18:35 < valentin> it never worked on my machine anyway
18:35 < valentin> it failed to recognize the driver
18:35 < valentin> s/driver/device
18:35 < valentin> irc you had to edit the device id table manually before compiling it !
18:42 < rxr> ah - as one expect from a well maintained driver ..
18:43 < rxr> how to install linux: use ed to insert your device id's into computer.ids ,-)
18:47 < CIA-3> rene * r9050 /trunk/package/network/adm8211/ (6 files): * added adm8211 (20050323)
18:54 < rxr> # For Fedore Core 3 firmware goes in /lib/firmware
18:54 < rxr> # For other distros/releases we use /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
18:54 < rxr> oh - so we are Fedora Core 3 ...
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18:59 < keinek> hi
19:00 < rxr> hi keinek
19:10 < valentin> i will warm up sth to eat now - bbl
19:17 < CIA-3> rene * r9051 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg-conf.in:
19:17 < CIA-3> * fixed xorg.conf example and template installation as well as touching
19:17 < CIA-3> and not overwriting an existing xorg.conf
19:25 < rxr> cool
19:25 < rxr> Fake Microsoft Patch Triggers Virus Attack
19:25 < rxr> http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/05/21/0619241.shtml
19:47 < CIA-3> rene * r9052 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/ (8 files): * added at76c503a (2005-05-21)
20:04 < CIA-3> rene * r9053 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added adm8211 and at76c503a to the desktop target
20:39 < valentin> re
20:39 < rxr> hi
21:15 < rxr> valentin: you notify my when you have some test run for the packaged atmel driver ?
21:17 < valentin> rxr: still compiling ...
21:21 < rxr> good
21:22 < rxr> hotplug++-0.0.2 might be ready now ...
21:29 < rxr> as well as the hal ready livecd
21:36 < _Lewellyn> still working on the livecd?
21:38 < valentin> hi _Lewellyn
21:38 < _Lewellyn> morning valentin
21:38 * _Lewellyn is at work on a saturday, so he's willing to have some slack time
21:39 < _Lewellyn> that can include increasing the tested configurations for the livecd :)
21:41 < rxr> hi _Lewellyn - nice to see - the increated testbed, not your saturday work ...
21:42 < _Lewellyn> eh. it's too warm outside to do much else but work.
21:42 < _Lewellyn> 30 degrees F warmer than 3 days ago.
21:42 < _Lewellyn> too much too fast
21:42 < rxr> ouhm - fahrenheit - me calculating ...
21:43 < _Lewellyn> in the office is a coolish 27C
21:43 < rxr> ah - celcius - a unit that is more familiar ,-)
21:43 < _Lewellyn> :)
21:44 < rxr> what was fahrenheit? ^C + 32 / something or so ?
21:44 < _Lewellyn> something like that.
21:44 < _Lewellyn> we have a celsius thermometer in the office.
21:45 < rxr> Fahrenheit = Celsius * 9/5 + 32
21:45 < rxr> ouhm ... ,-)
21:45 < rxr> how could I forget that ...
21:45 < rxr> .o(at least I remebered the 32 ,-)
21:46 < _Lewellyn> hm. 21C at the airport a few miles south, on the water.
21:49 < _Lewellyn> gah. it must be all the buildings in san francisco, it's cooler everywhere else around :(
21:53 < CIA-3> rene * r9054 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvb-apps/dvb-install.patch:
21:53 < CIA-3> * fixed dvb-apps to install evtest as av7110_evtest, since the former
21:53 < CIA-3> is included in the input-utils package
22:06 < _Lewellyn> rxr: is there a recommended download of the livecd i should test with, or should i wait for a new build?
22:12 < rxr> when you have some minutes ..
22:12 < rxr> I will have a new version soon
22:14 < _Lewellyn> ok. i'll boot windows on my test box so i can burn a cd.
22:15 < rxr> well - I need about 15-20 minutes until the new CD (if it works great) will be online ...
22:15 < _Lewellyn> no rush. i'm taking this time to poke at the ksh package. i still can't get it to not error out.
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22:52 < rxr> hi kgb
22:54 < kgb> hi rxr
23:02 < kgb> CIA-3?
23:07 < rxr> re
23:08 < rxr> kgb: the new live cd rock - it is unbelievable ...
23:09 < rxr> if it wouldn't be T2 running so smooth I would be jealous ...
23:10 < kgb> :D
23:10 < rxr> on the life CD kde media:/ with HAL works perfectly - not as in my current installed T2 where it hangs a bit on mount and unmount ..
23:11 < rxr> but my current t2 is the usual tons of updates development installs with possible outdated files lingering along the lines ...
23:11 < kgb> as usual
23:12 < kgb> will you port back stuff from livecd to desktop and core?
23:12 < rxr> kgb: of course any livecd bit will be in t2 - most already is in trunk
23:13 < rxr> like adapted HAL, DBUS, ...
23:13 < rxr> new initrd modular kernel, ...
23:13 < rxr> xcfgt2
23:13 < rxr> to mention a few ..
23:13 < rxr> most missing parts is the creation script to be injected soon, some static files, some package selection work
23:14 < rxr> ok - live cd available from my home rsync ...
23:14 < rxr> adn in some seconds from gsmp
23:14 < rxr> it will be named t2-live-2.2.0-beta
23:14 < rxr> since dbus/hal works now ...
23:14 < rxr> you can plug in usb, firewire, ... storage, kameras, ... and just get device icons on the desktop ...
23:15 < rxr> click to mount - right click -> safely remove to unmount ...
23:15 < rxr> as users deserve ...
23:15 < kgb> i'll have to wait until tuesday to grab it :(
23:15 < rxr> changes are tiny:
23:15 < rxr> sent 1835764 bytes received 166993 bytes 12324.66 bytes/sec
23:15 < rxr> relative to the last rXX ...
23:20 < rxr> kgb: any reason why .init installation is not yet handled by the almighty TAIL ?
23:20 < rxr> 3cf15d258e1a007398b05ff816b006ac t2.iso
23:20 < rxr> md5sum: incoming/t2.iso: Input/output error
23:20 < rxr> how I hate this departing IBM disk ...
23:22 < kgb> didn't you have big troubles with it one-two years ago?
23:22 < rxr> yep - I think all of this series already got replaced once ..
23:22 < rxr> if that got too, it is failing again ...
23:22 < rxr> it will go into trash as soon as I'm in that room again for maintenance ..
23:23 < rxr> for now I just move bad files into /.defect`mktemp` and go on ...
23:23 < valentin> kernel still compiling ...
23:23 < rxr> that is the root of the FS of course ...
23:24 < rxr> valentin: hehe - the fully modular T2 kernels will all 3rd party stuff are quite - well - big ...
23:24 < rxr> the other word for fully modular: big ,-)
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23:34 < keinek_> hi
23:34 < keinek_> in clen
23:34 < keinek_> sorry
23:34 < keinek_> in clean
23:34 < keinek_> Use './scripts/Cleanup -buld' to remove builds and './scripts/Cleanup -cache'
23:35 < keinek_> to also flush the cache.
23:35 < keinek_> that help have a error
23:35 < keinek_> see "-buld" when must say "-build"
23:35 < keinek_> ;)
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23:49 < kgb> hi keinek
23:54 < kgb> rxr, about 8972 (gnome-build for anjuta) ... is it only needed for anjuta 2 or also for 1.2.{2,3} ?
23:56 < kgb> keinek, where did you got that help message?
23:57 < kgb> keinek, what revision? i see it properly written here
--- Log closed Sun May 22 00:00:52 2005
--- Day changed Sat May 21 2005
00:00 < valentin> jsaw seems to be lurking for special numbers :)
00:00 < mnemoc> 1000 per month on T2 era
00:00 < rxr> mnemoc: missing log is most probably change in branch
00:00 < valentin> what about 7777, 8888 .... ?
00:00 < mnemoc> r8888 | amery | 2005-05-15
00:01 < mnemoc> r7777 | amery | 2005-03-26
00:01 < mnemoc> r6666 | rene | 2005-02-19
00:01 < mnemoc> r5555 | mnemoc | 2005-01-13
00:07 < rxr> so - a few seconds and I'm ready
00:07 < valentin> so am i
00:08 < rxr> do you wait or commit *g* ?
00:08 < valentin> i just wait a minute
00:08 < valentin> or do you have one update only ?
00:08 < rxr> 2 adds
00:09 < valentin> i have to wait for the make flist wrapper to finish and at least start asy once before i commit
00:10 < valentin> works
00:10 < rxr> 2nd
00:10 < valentin> so i can commit if you want
00:10 < rxr> no
00:11 < mnemoc> valentin: don't push him :)
00:11 < rxr> done
00:12 < rxr> go with 9001 ,-)
00:12 < rxr> should I announce to the list ?
00:12 < CIA-3> rene * r8999 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/ (. hylafax.conf hylafax.desc no-init.patch): * added hylafax (4.1.8) - rejected ROCK Linux submaster patch with fixes
00:12 < valentin> hehe
00:12 < rxr> subversion 1.2.0 tarballs up for testing/signing
00:13 < CIA-3> rene * r9000 /trunk/package/filesystem/p3nfs/ (. compile.patch fixed-serial.patch p3nfs.desc): * added p3nfs (5.18) - rejected ROCK Linux submaster patch with fixes
00:14 < CIA-3> valentin * r9001 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/ (asymptote.conf asymptote.desc): * updated asymptote (0.76 -> 0.78)
00:17 < mnemoc> :)
00:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9002 /branches/2.1/package/zope/zope/ (stone_mod_zope.sh zope-conf.in):
00:18 < CIA-3> * merged 8903 from trunk: improved zope-conf.in to remove path for srcdir
00:18 < CIA-3> * merged 8939 from trunk: improved stone/mod_zope to uninstall products with broken links on request
00:21 < CIA-3> amery * r9003 /branches/2.1/package/zope/zope/zope.desc: * merged 8940 from trunk: updated zope (2.7.5 -> 2.7.6)
00:21 < valentin> maybe there will be 9009 before i go to bed :)
00:21 < rxr> oh - and the changeset start raining again ,-)
00:21 < rxr> I go now ...
00:22 < rxr> livecd build started ...
00:22 < rxr> that is to track regressions ...
00:22 < rxr> n8 all - cu soon
00:22 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
00:22 < valentin> gn8 rxr and sleep well
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01:52 < valentin> gn8
02:34 < mnemoc_> gn8 valentin
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03:44 < CIA-3> amery * r9004 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * fixed bdb java examples to build with kaffe
04:53 < CIA-3> amery * r9005 /trunk/package/database/bdb/ (bdb-conf.in libjdir.patch):
04:53 < CIA-3> * improved bdb to support a different libdir for java files
04:53 < CIA-3> * improved bdb to use libdb_java-${ver:0:3}.jar by makeopt instead of install_wrapper
05:24 < CIA-3> amery * r9006 /branches/2.1/package/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
05:24 < CIA-3> * merged 9004 from trunk: fixed bdb java examples to build with kaffe
05:24 < CIA-3> * merged 9005 from trunk: fixed bdb to install all it's java files on opt/java/lib, and as libdb_java-${ver:0:3}.*
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06:47 < CIA-3> amery * r9007 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/ (libjdir.patch noinst-default.patch):
06:47 < CIA-3> * patched bdb33 to support libjdir, as we did for bdb
06:47 < CIA-3> * fixed bdb33 to not share default libjso
06:53 < CIA-3> amery * r9008 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xorg/startxdm.sh: * merged 8893 from trunk: fixed startxdm to set PATH
07:13 < CIA-3> amery * r9009 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/bdb33.desc: * marked bdb33 as KAFFE
07:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9010 /branches/2.1/package/database/bdb33/ (bdb33.desc libjdir.patch noinst-default.patch):
07:19 < CIA-3> * merged 9007 from trunk: patched bdb33 to support libjdir, and fixed to not share libjso
07:19 < CIA-3> * merged 9009 from trunk: marked bdb33 as KAFFE
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08:16 < CIA-3> amery * r9011 /branches/2.1/package/java/java-dirtree/java-jdk-conf.in:
08:16 < CIA-3> * added java-jdk-conf.in (copy of java-common-conf.in) to be used for JDKs and JREs
08:16 < CIA-3> * improved JDK's profile file to export also MANPATH
08:17 < mnemoc_> aaarg!
08:17 < mnemoc_> that was for trunk! dammit
08:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9012 /branches/2.1/package/java/java-dirtree/java-common-conf.in: * changed java-common-conf.in, jdk_populate_profile is not needed in this context
08:17 < mnemoc_> hey!
08:17 < mnemoc_> that one too
08:18 < mnemoc_> now i'll have to fix kaffe on the branch :(
08:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9013 /branches/2.1/package/java/kaffe/ (kaffe.conf kaffe.desc): * changed kaffe to use java-jdk-conf.in
08:39 < CIA-3> amery * r9014 /trunk/package/java/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * merged 9011,9012,9013 from 2.1: java-common-conf.in forked in java-jdk-conf.in, and kaffe changed to use the later
08:43 < rxr> re
08:45 < CIA-3> rene * r9015 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.conf: * fixed typo in udev script installation
08:48 < rxr> == 08:46:35 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.5 2.2.0-alpha].
08:48 < rxr> so - gcc 3.4.4 works so far - no regressions ...
08:49 < rxr> oh - damn ...
08:50 < rxr> I used the cache ..
08:50 < rxr> no wnder it all built *g*
08:51 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
08:51 < CIA-3> amery * r9016 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-jdk-conf.in:
08:51 < CIA-3> * improved java-jdk-conf.in to set a JRE profile if $1=jre
08:51 < CIA-3> * fixed typo in java-jdk-conf.in when exporting MANPATH and PATH
08:54 * rxr breakfast
09:02 < CIA-3> amery * r9017 /trunk/package/java/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * changed sun-{jdk,jre}-142 to source a common java-sun-conf.in which extends java-jdk-conf.in
09:06 < CIA-3> amery * r9018 /trunk/package/java/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * changed sun-{jre,jdk}-150 to use generic java-sun-conf.in
09:27 < CIA-3> amery * r9019 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-142/java-sun-conf.in: * fixed missing / on java-sun-conf.in
09:31 < rxr> sound a bit like a #java channel here these days ...
09:34 < mnemoc_> i hope to finish this crap soon
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.system.lock
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/.java/.systemPrefs/.systemRootModFile
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/mailcap
09:35 < mnemoc_> sun-jdk-150: etc/mime.types
09:35 < mnemoc_> puaj
09:35 < mnemoc_> minto!
09:40 < CIA-3> amery * r9020 /branches/2.1/package/java/ (10 files in 5 dirs):
09:40 < CIA-3> * merged 9016,9019 from trunk: improved java-jdk-conf.in to set a JRE profile if $1=jre, and bug injected in 9011
09:40 < CIA-3> * merged 9017,9018 from trunk: changed sun-{jdk,jre}-{142,150} to source a common java-sun-conf.in which extends java-jdk-conf.in
09:41 < mnemoc_> to much java for tonight
09:41 < mnemoc_> gn8 rxr
09:41 < rxr> n8 mnemoc_ #
09:42 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'll be away one or two days... changes on the electric network of my shell box, can you ask minto about those files on sun-{jdk,jre}-150 if you see him?
09:44 < mnemoc_> i'll commit some updates merges from the shadows anyway
09:44 < mnemoc_> gn8
09:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: ok - I ask minto
09:45 < rxr> but he said he is a few days holidaying with the famili, oo
09:45 < rxr> family or so anyway
09:45 < rxr> sleep well and greetings to you family
09:54 < CIA-3> rene * r9021 /trunk/package/develop/libowfat/ (dietlibc.patch libowfat.conf libowfat.desc): * updated libowfat (0.22 -> 0.23)
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10:13 < CIA-3> amery * r9022 /trunk/package/xfce4/dbh/dbh.desc: * updated dbh (1.0.22 -> 1.0.24)
10:14 < CIA-3> amery * r9023 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc: * updated gtk-xfce-engine2 (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7)
10:15 < CIA-3> amery * r9025 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/libxfce4util.desc: * updated libxfce4util (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:15 < CIA-3> amery * r9024 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs.desc: * updated libxfce4mcs (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9026 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.desc: * updated libxfcegui4 (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:17 < CIA-3> amery * r9030 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-icon-theme/xfce4-icon-theme.desc: * updated xfce4-icon-theme (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9029 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-iconbox/xfce4-iconbox.desc: * updated xfce4-iconbox (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:18 < CIA-3> amery * r9027 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * updated xfcalendar (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:19 < CIA-3> amery * r9028 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/xfce4-appfinder.desc: * updated xfce4-appfinder (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9034 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systray/xfce4-systray.desc: * updated xfce4-systray (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9031 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/xfce4-mixer.desc: * updated xfce4-mixer (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:20 < CIA-3> amery * r9032 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel.desc: * updated xfce4-panel (4.2.1.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:21 < CIA-3> amery * r9033 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.desc: * updated xfce4-session (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:22 < CIA-3> amery * r9035 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-toys/xfce4-toys.desc: * updated xfce4-toys (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:22 < CIA-3> amery * r9038 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:23 < CIA-3> amery * r9039 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-utils/xfce-utils.desc: * updated xfce-utils (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:23 < CIA-3> amery * r9037 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-manager (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:26 < CIA-3> amery * r9036 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-trigger-launcher/xfce4-trigger-launcher.desc: * updated xfce4-trigger-launcher (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:27 < CIA-3> amery * r9040 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * updated xfdesktop (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:29 < CIA-3> amery * r9041 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * updated xfprint (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:30 < CIA-3> amery * r9043 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4-themes/xfwm4-themes.desc: * updated xfwm4-themes (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
10:31 < CIA-3> amery * r9042 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4.desc: * updated xfwm4 (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2)
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10:32 < CIA-3> amery * r9044 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/xffm.desc: * downdated xffm (4.3.1.0 -> 4.2.2) - no reason to have it from devel branch
10:32 < CIA-3> rene * r9045 /trunk/package/network/gatling/ (. gatling.cache gatling.conf gatling.desc): * added gatling (0.8)
12:15 < rxr> hm - my main powerpc routers glibc is defect with ipv6 ...
12:15 < rxr> anyway - compiled the app with dietlibc now ... - works ..
12:15 < rxr> no time for hours of glibc rebuilds ...
12:21 < valentin> moin
12:21 < valentin> 9045 ???
12:23 < rxr> yep
12:25 < rxr> T2 is not ROCK ,-)
12:26 < CIA-3> rene * r9046 /trunk/package/ (develop/libowfat/libowfat.desc network/gatling/gatling.desc): * marked libowfat and gatling dietlibc-able
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12:27 < jeru> moin
12:28 < rxr> moin jeru
12:28 < rxr> DSL @home again ?
12:28 < rxr> hm - gatling still has some issue on PPC
12:28 < jeru> rxr: I send you a mail with a new livecd test
12:28 < rxr> oh - sueccess ?
12:28 < rxr> -e
12:28 < jeru> rxr: yes
12:28 < rxr> cool!
12:29 < rxr> jeru: have you booted from a USB CD-ROM so far ?
12:29 < jeru> rxr: nope ... I could on monday
12:30 < jeru> rxr: we've an ancient external USB CD burner at work
12:30 < rxr> jeru: as usual only if time permits ,-)
12:31 < jeru> rxr: btw, the last livecd logs are from the same athlon box at home ... just replace the graphic card
12:31 < jeru> rxr: testing the usb cdrom shouldn't eat much time ;)
12:32 < rxr> ok - thanks!
12:32 < jeru> rxr: can you add clamav to the livecd ?
12:33 < jeru> rxr: or do you have restrictions from the magazine regarding what to place on it ?
12:34 < rxr> well - the first is "our" livecd anyway ...
12:34 < jeru> ah ok
12:34 < rxr> why would you like to see it on the t2 live cd ?
12:34 < jeru> just for using it as a tool to clean some infected machines
12:36 < jeru> rxr: do you have some plans regarding the deployment of targets via livecd ?
12:36 < valentin> we could create a t2 win rescue targets
12:37 < jeru> valentin: hehe ... with a OS repplacement wizzard too ;)
12:37 < valentin> featuring antivir software and an ooo to repair crashing word documents
12:38 < jeru> valentin: ack ...
12:38 < rxr> jeru: I'll sort in all the remaining livecd bits into the trunk over the next days / week
12:38 < jeru> I thought even about having bacula on it
12:38 < jeru> rxr: ok
12:39 < rxr> I would say other custom target could "inherit" the livecd code as the psion-pda or dreamcast ones inherit form embedded
12:39 < rxr> yep - newer glibc (on my iBook) work with gatling ...
12:39 < rxr> crap glibc junk ...
12:39 < jeru> bacula could be used to backup/restore machines
12:40 < jeru> rxr: ack .. a smart integration of the livecd framework would be nice
12:42 < rxr> smarter than the usual inheritance style ?
12:43 < jeru> rxr: atm ... nop ;)
12:43 < jeru> nope
12:45 < jeru> rxr: btw, do you have special plans for using gatling ?
12:49 < rxr> I just wanted to test it ,-)
12:49 < rxr> it has some problems on my PPC box I just investigate
12:49 < rxr> just having this tiny yet powerful thing handy is nice - no concrete plans yet
12:49 < rxr> but ad-hoc starting in some dir is a nice to have
12:51 < jeru> hehe :)
12:54 < rxr> oh - and it does ftp ...
12:55 < jeru> yes .. I know
13:00 < jeru> gatling can now also do fallback redirects <-- README.redirect :)
13:00 < rxr> hm - on my iBook gatling works ..
13:01 < jeru> :)
13:02 < rxr> damn outdated ROCK crap on my router ...
13:03 < CIA-3> rene * r9047 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
13:03 < CIA-3> * fixed gatling and libowfat to build after dietlibc and adapted
13:03 < CIA-3> slidentd according to the new libowfat priority
13:03 < CIA-3> * injected gatling checksum
13:05 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/
13:05 < rxr> ^- t2 rank #2
13:06 < jeru> :D
13:07 < jeru> hmmm ... rank 5 if I open the page
13:16 < rxr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/19/fujitsu_faster_sparc/
13:16 < rxr> ah - dietlibc update helped ...
13:19 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/
13:19 < rxr> ^- gatling
13:20 < rxr> not that 786MB or RAM would be too less for apache - just a testbed ,-)
13:20 < rxr> so - we get some good for lunch - cu soon
14:00 < rxr> re
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15:08 < rxr> re
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15:59 < rxr> hi mtr
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16:24 < CIA-3> rene * r9048 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/mkinitrd: * implemented explicit version specification for mkinitrd
16:25 < CIA-3> rene * r9049 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf:
16:25 < CIA-3> * removed obsolete empty flag from linux24 mkinitrd execution, we
16:25 < CIA-3> implant any useful module in the new "fully modular" concept
16:40 < rxr> "Well, right now, ProPolice stops at GCC 3.4. No one has a working ProPolice for GCC 4.0. No one is devoting enough resources to ensure this will happen. And you think we will switch to GCC 4.0? Think again.
16:40 < rxr> Instead, GCC 4.0 will ship with a framework called mudflap, which does about as much as "flap, flap, flap" flying through code. It catches one valid bound violation every April the 1st, and complains about valid code every other day of the year.
16:40 < rxr> No ProPolice in sight."
16:40 < rxr> ^- http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/05/19/openbsd_3_7.html
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17:21 < valentin> hm, once again my framebuffer was in a bad state after idling a while
17:21 < valentin> btw: mnemoc is second most active developer due to cia
17:39 < rxr_> valentin: the former is not so good
17:39 < rxr_> I call your shortly ...
17:40 -!- You're now known as rxr
17:40 < rxr> line busy ...
17:40 < rxr> valentin: can you tell me the download URL for the w-lan driver you need for your usb card?
17:40 < rxr> or is it in mainline already ?
17:40 < valentin> rxr: nope - mom
17:41 < valentin> there were three drivers for that device, but only one was working properly a year ago
17:42 < valentin> ok, the source file was called at76c503a-cvs.tar.bz2
17:42 < valentin> http://at76c503a.berlios.de/
17:43 < valentin> imo this is the only driver that is endianess-clean
17:43 < rxr> is it under active development ?
17:43 < valentin> there is another one for x86 on sourceforge
17:43 < rxr> I would package it in the later case for t2
17:43 < rxr> (right now=
17:43 < rxr> ) even
17:44 < valentin> at least the berlios one supports 2.6 in trunk now
17:44 < valentin> so there was at least one new version during the last year
17:45 < valentin> ouhm - wait
17:45 < valentin> nope
17:45 < valentin> you still need cvs for 2.6.x ???
17:46 < valentin> damn cr*p
17:46 < valentin> now i remember why there is no t2 package yet
17:47 < rxr> we have CVS checkout ...
17:48 < rxr> (what clifford wants to remove from ROCK *g*)
17:49 < rxr> 2.2 is ig a good shape,too
18:23 < rxr> valentin: so I package the above onw?
18:23 < rxr> now even ...
18:24 < valentin> you could search for a revision that compiles ,)
18:24 < valentin> and i can do the testing part
18:27 < rxr> you need firmware for the device ?
18:27 < rxr> http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/atmel-firmware-1.3.tar.gz
18:28 < valentin> rxr: oh ?
18:29 < valentin> never downloaded this one
18:31 < rxr> the latest change on the project cvs was 2 month ago ..
18:31 < rxr> not over active ..
18:31 < rxr> replaced usb_unlink_urb by usb_kill_urb for >= 2.6.10 (as posted by Deuce
18:32 < rxr> - at76c505a-rfmd2958.c: added Gigaset11 (0x1690/0x0701) (thanks to Mike Pinna)
18:32 < rxr> - added patch to support HP iPAQ h5[45]xx (see email by Erik Hovland, 28 Febr 2005)
18:35 < rxr> the orig. sourceforge hosted project does not look more active ...
18:35 < valentin> well
18:35 < valentin> it never worked on my machine anyway
18:35 < valentin> it failed to recognize the driver
18:35 < valentin> s/driver/device
18:35 < valentin> irc you had to edit the device id table manually before compiling it !
18:42 < rxr> ah - as one expect from a well maintained driver ..
18:43 < rxr> how to install linux: use ed to insert your device id's into computer.ids ,-)
18:47 < CIA-3> rene * r9050 /trunk/package/network/adm8211/ (6 files): * added adm8211 (20050323)
18:54 < rxr> # For Fedore Core 3 firmware goes in /lib/firmware
18:54 < rxr> # For other distros/releases we use /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
18:54 < rxr> oh - so we are Fedora Core 3 ...
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18:59 < keinek> hi
19:00 < rxr> hi keinek
19:10 < valentin> i will warm up sth to eat now - bbl
19:17 < CIA-3> rene * r9051 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg-conf.in:
19:17 < CIA-3> * fixed xorg.conf example and template installation as well as touching
19:17 < CIA-3> and not overwriting an existing xorg.conf
19:25 < rxr> cool
19:25 < rxr> Fake Microsoft Patch Triggers Virus Attack
19:25 < rxr> http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/05/21/0619241.shtml
19:47 < CIA-3> rene * r9052 /trunk/package/network/at76c503a/ (8 files): * added at76c503a (2005-05-21)
20:04 < CIA-3> rene * r9053 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added adm8211 and at76c503a to the desktop target
20:39 < valentin> re
20:39 < rxr> hi
21:15 < rxr> valentin: you notify my when you have some test run for the packaged atmel driver ?
21:17 < valentin> rxr: still compiling ...
21:21 < rxr> good
21:22 < rxr> hotplug++-0.0.2 might be ready now ...
21:29 < rxr> as well as the hal ready livecd
21:36 < _Lewellyn> still working on the livecd?
21:38 < valentin> hi _Lewellyn
21:38 < _Lewellyn> morning valentin
21:38 * _Lewellyn is at work on a saturday, so he's willing to have some slack time
21:39 < _Lewellyn> that can include increasing the tested configurations for the livecd :)
21:41 < rxr> hi _Lewellyn - nice to see - the increated testbed, not your saturday work ...
21:42 < _Lewellyn> eh. it's too warm outside to do much else but work.
21:42 < _Lewellyn> 30 degrees F warmer than 3 days ago.
21:42 < _Lewellyn> too much too fast
21:42 < rxr> ouhm - fahrenheit - me calculating ...
21:43 < _Lewellyn> in the office is a coolish 27C
21:43 < rxr> ah - celcius - a unit that is more familiar ,-)
21:43 < _Lewellyn> :)
21:44 < rxr> what was fahrenheit? ^C + 32 / something or so ?
21:44 < _Lewellyn> something like that.
21:44 < _Lewellyn> we have a celsius thermometer in the office.
21:45 < rxr> Fahrenheit = Celsius * 9/5 + 32
21:45 < rxr> ouhm ... ,-)
21:45 < rxr> how could I forget that ...
21:45 < rxr> .o(at least I remebered the 32 ,-)
21:46 < _Lewellyn> hm. 21C at the airport a few miles south, on the water.
21:49 < _Lewellyn> gah. it must be all the buildings in san francisco, it's cooler everywhere else around :(
21:53 < CIA-3> rene * r9054 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvb-apps/dvb-install.patch:
21:53 < CIA-3> * fixed dvb-apps to install evtest as av7110_evtest, since the former
21:53 < CIA-3> is included in the input-utils package
22:06 < _Lewellyn> rxr: is there a recommended download of the livecd i should test with, or should i wait for a new build?
22:12 < rxr> when you have some minutes ..
22:12 < rxr> I will have a new version soon
22:14 < _Lewellyn> ok. i'll boot windows on my test box so i can burn a cd.
22:15 < rxr> well - I need about 15-20 minutes until the new CD (if it works great) will be online ...
22:15 < _Lewellyn> no rush. i'm taking this time to poke at the ksh package. i still can't get it to not error out.
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22:52 < rxr> hi kgb
22:54 < kgb> hi rxr
23:02 < kgb> CIA-3?
23:07 < rxr> re
23:08 < rxr> kgb: the new live cd rock - it is unbelievable ...
23:09 < rxr> if it wouldn't be T2 running so smooth I would be jealous ...
23:10 < kgb> :D
23:10 < rxr> on the life CD kde media:/ with HAL works perfectly - not as in my current installed T2 where it hangs a bit on mount and unmount ..
23:11 < rxr> but my current t2 is the usual tons of updates development installs with possible outdated files lingering along the lines ...
23:11 < kgb> as usual
23:12 < kgb> will you port back stuff from livecd to desktop and core?
23:12 < rxr> kgb: of course any livecd bit will be in t2 - most already is in trunk
23:13 < rxr> like adapted HAL, DBUS, ...
23:13 < rxr> new initrd modular kernel, ...
23:13 < rxr> xcfgt2
23:13 < rxr> to mention a few ..
23:13 < rxr> most missing parts is the creation script to be injected soon, some static files, some package selection work
23:14 < rxr> ok - live cd available from my home rsync ...
23:14 < rxr> adn in some seconds from gsmp
23:14 < rxr> it will be named t2-live-2.2.0-beta
23:14 < rxr> since dbus/hal works now ...
23:14 < rxr> you can plug in usb, firewire, ... storage, kameras, ... and just get device icons on the desktop ...
23:15 < rxr> click to mount - right click -> safely remove to unmount ...
23:15 < rxr> as users deserve ...
23:15 < kgb> i'll have to wait until tuesday to grab it :(
23:15 < rxr> changes are tiny:
23:15 < rxr> sent 1835764 bytes received 166993 bytes 12324.66 bytes/sec
23:15 < rxr> relative to the last rXX ...
23:20 < rxr> kgb: any reason why .init installation is not yet handled by the almighty TAIL ?
23:20 < rxr> 3cf15d258e1a007398b05ff816b006ac t2.iso
23:20 < rxr> md5sum: incoming/t2.iso: Input/output error
23:20 < rxr> how I hate this departing IBM disk ...
23:22 < kgb> didn't you have big troubles with it one-two years ago?
23:22 < rxr> yep - I think all of this series already got replaced once ..
23:22 < rxr> if that got too, it is failing again ...
23:22 < rxr> it will go into trash as soon as I'm in that room again for maintenance ..
23:23 < rxr> for now I just move bad files into /.defect`mktemp` and go on ...
23:23 < valentin> kernel still compiling ...
23:23 < rxr> that is the root of the FS of course ...
23:24 < rxr> valentin: hehe - the fully modular T2 kernels will all 3rd party stuff are quite - well - big ...
23:24 < rxr> the other word for fully modular: big ,-)
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23:34 < keinek_> hi
23:34 < keinek_> in clen
23:34 < keinek_> sorry
23:34 < keinek_> in clean
23:34 < keinek_> Use './scripts/Cleanup -buld' to remove builds and './scripts/Cleanup -cache'
23:35 < keinek_> to also flush the cache.
23:35 < keinek_> that help have a error
23:35 < keinek_> see "-buld" when must say "-build"
23:35 < keinek_> ;)
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23:49 < kgb> hi keinek
23:54 < kgb> rxr, about 8972 (gnome-build for anjuta) ... is it only needed for anjuta 2 or also for 1.2.{2,3} ?
23:56 < kgb> keinek, where did you got that help message?
23:57 < kgb> keinek, what revision? i see it properly written here
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