--- Log opened Tue May 24 00:00:52 2005 00:06 < rxr> ok - grub should be final now ... 00:06 < _Lewellyn> is it a large patch? 00:06 < _Lewellyn> can it be sent upstream? :) 00:06 < rxr> nope 00:07 * _Lewellyn likes this background image thing 00:07 < rxr> nah - I just disable the stuff ... 00:07 < rxr> they will never keep it 00:07 < rxr> especially since grub 0.9 is feature frozen 00:07 < rxr> they work on grub2 since ages ... 00:07 < _Lewellyn> why doesn't t2 use grub2 then? 00:08 < rxr> grub2 will be cross platform - the inital release at least x86 and powerpc (replacing yaboot) maybe even sparc (thus obsoleting the silo /crap/) 00:08 < rxr> because grub2 is like hurd - ongoing work ,-) 00:08 < rxr> noone except very brave people try grub2 right now ... 00:09 < _Lewellyn> but they aren't changing 0.9. sounds like linux! :) 00:09 < _Lewellyn> (low blow, sorry) 00:09 < rxr> there are 0.9 releases every half a year os ro - but only fixing bugs 00:10 < rxr> like memory corruption, fixes for new crappy BIOSes and such 00:10 < rxr> sttricly no new features - this is why the bootsplash stuff never made it into official grub over the _last years_ 00:10 < _Lewellyn> lame 00:10 < _Lewellyn> why do people use grub over lilo if grub's fairly stagnant? 00:11 < rxr> do you know the difference ? 00:11 < rxr> they are both fairly different technology 00:11 < _Lewellyn> no. which is why i've not moved from lilo 00:11 < rxr> grub can read filesystems on-th-fly and has dynamic editing 00:11 < rxr> lilo keeps this staic block list - and dumply loads those blocks into memroy 00:12 < rxr> that is why you need to rerun lilo in your linux everytime you move, change the file 00:12 < _Lewellyn> i see no issue with that, myself 00:12 < rxr> and grub can nearly load anything - lilo is mostly linux only ... 00:13 < rxr> if lilo is fine for you I'll not stop you using it ,-) 00:17 < _Lewellyn> does grub load freebsd? 00:17 < rxr> yep 00:18 < rxr> and multi boot specification stuff - like e.g. also needed for this Xen virtualizer 00:18 < _Lewellyn> hm. why did no one suggest it when i was looking to dual-boot dos and freebsd, i wonder? 00:18 < rxr> no idea ... 00:18 < _Lewellyn> oh ya. the scsi controller had no bios, so i couldn't use a boot loader. 00:20 < rxr> aha 00:21 < rxr> ouhm - what a bad subversion 1.2.0 summary on freshmeat: 00:21 < rxr> "A number of feature enhancements, the most notable of which is support for locking." 00:32 < kgb> support for locking? 00:34 < _Lewellyn> oh ya, subversion is based off webdav, isn't it? 00:34 < rxr> webdav is only one protocol available - you can also use a properitry wire protocol svn:// if you like ... 00:38 < kgb> does svnserv support hashed passwords these days? 00:41 < rxr> no idea 00:41 < rxr> I do not hand out write access via svn:// 00:41 < rxr> I only want one ACL 00:41 < valentin> re 00:43 < rxr> hi valentin 00:44 < rxr> valentin: have you seen my grub hack? 00:44 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live-splash.png 00:45 < valentin> yep 00:45 < kgb> looks nice 00:46 < rxr> ok - full ISO avail via rsync 00:47 < rxr> I like it way better without the ugly border lines ... 00:52 * _Lewellyn wonders if he still has the rsync commandline in his commandline history 00:53 < rxr> C^R is your friend ;-) ? 00:54 < _Lewellyn> or grep ~/.sh_history 00:54 < _Lewellyn> :) 00:55 < valentin> rxr: can i rsync from your box or take the official verion ? 00:57 < rxr> you can rsync ... 00:58 < rxr> whta did I fix? 00:58 < rxr> I already forgot half of it hacking so much ... 00:58 < valentin> at least the bootsplash .. *g* 00:59 < valentin> rxr: there will be a gez for internet users in 2007 00:59 < rxr> I'll refuse to pay 01:00 < rxr> I kick all new ages boxse out and surf with the SPARC Station @40Mhz 01:00 < _Lewellyn> gez? 01:00 < rxr> _Lewellyn: some german crap 01:00 -!- Postal [~edinatux1@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 01:00 < _Lewellyn> h 01:00 < Postal> Hey all 01:00 < _Lewellyn> oh even 01:01 < Postal> rene, you around? 01:01 < rxr> yes 01:01 < rxr> but not much longer ... 01:01 < valentin> _Lewellyn: here in germany we have to pay if we hold some receivers for tv or radio 01:01 < Postal> is the new iso with the sata up yet? 01:01 < rxr> yes -beta2 01:01 < Postal> awsome 01:01 < rxr> but -beta3 is ready right now 01:01 < _Lewellyn> valentin: are you free to do what you want with the received broadcasts, though? 01:01 < Postal> well beta3 sounds better than 2 01:01 < rxr> including more w-lan driver, fixed VIA graphic support and a grub graphic theme ... 01:02 < Postal> is beta3 up 01:02 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/stable/2.2.0-beta 01:02 < Postal> its quite slow :( 01:03 < Postal> rxr, what should a partition scheme look like for something like this... 01:03 < Postal> cause i want to cross compile 01:03 < rxr> a8bb04749715b0a78b7baf48a689a5d8 ../../stable/2.2.0-beta/t2-live-2.2.0-beta3.iso 01:04 < Postal> ...? 01:04 < rxr> md5sum 01:04 < Postal> oh 01:04 < Postal> it will be 61min before i need that 01:04 < valentin> _Lewellyn: this has nothing to do with copyrights 01:04 < rxr> Avg: 1506.88 kBit/s 01:05 < rxr> ^- current gsmp outgoing 01:05 < valentin> we have some "official" governmental tv broadcasters here. We have to pay for them 01:05 < Postal> well im only seeing 147 of them 01:05 < valentin> they claim a pc can be used to watch their shows, too - but that is pure bullsh*t 01:06 < _Lewellyn> valentin: oh. so it's not like us and our "broadcast flag". it's a true taxation issue. 01:06 < Postal> if i could have 400 or so of them, that would be better 01:07 < _Lewellyn> rxr: only 2 megs difference this time? 01:08 < valentin> _Lewellyn: the reason for this tax is to have a commercially independend tv / radio. but those broadcasters fail to fullfill their mission and send commercials and other crap all the day 01:08 < valentin> and they throw our money out of the window 01:08 < valentin> the biggest two gov. broadcasters "earn" taxes around $8.000.000 01:09 < _Lewellyn> valentin: you ever been to the usa? 01:09 < valentin> nope - though i have some friends over there 01:09 < _Lewellyn> i'm curious how close your "commercials and other crap" is to our most popular stations :( 01:09 * _Lewellyn feels that all they have is crap, crap, and more crap 01:09 < rxr> _Lewellyn: that might be 01:10 < _Lewellyn> of course, most of our music is crap to start with and we are enamored with advertising here. 01:10 < valentin> i am not saying that our ARD and ZDF is crap only, but they eat up more money than all other big commercial stations earn by commercial breaks ! 01:10 < Postal> rxr, what kind of partition scheme do i want to set up for the cross compile? 01:10 < valentin> and now they even want internet users to pay a full tv tax 01:11 < rxr> Postal: not really s.th. special 01:11 < rxr> I need to take sleep now - maybe valentin can help out ... 01:11 < Postal> ok rxr, ttyl 01:12 < rxr> 51.48 GB on gsmp today 01:12 < rxr> 649.89 GB this year 01:12 < rxr> 251.71 GB this month 01:13 < _Lewellyn> rxr: sleep well. 01:13 < _Lewellyn> live cd is booting into x in vmware now 01:13 < valentin> Postal: just make sure you have enough space on the fs you are building 01:14 < valentin> rxr: gn8 01:16 < rxr> valentin: with the broad certified hardware list, booting on a random sytem stats to be come quite unlinkely to fail ... 01:17 < valentin> rxr: i could ask ronald to test the cd 01:17 < valentin> and i could boot it on some systems at work on wednesday 01:19 < rxr> Postal: if you could write later on if SATA worked ... 01:19 < rxr> _Lewellyn: have fun testing ,-) 01:19 < rxr> n8 all 01:23 < _Lewellyn> Postal: i'd be initerested in your sata results, too, before i burn a physical cd :) 01:25 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.165] has joined #t2 01:25 < keinek> hi 01:26 < _Lewellyn> hoi 01:27 < kgb> keinek: hi 01:55 < _Lewellyn> rxr: just a heads up, since i don't have time to look at it deeply... the pcnet32 works in vmware now :) 01:55 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i'll look at the rest of the functionality as time permits. 02:00 < _Lewellyn> rxr: though i did notice that my floppy drive shows up as: "Hard Disk (floppy/0)" 02:37 < Postal> rxr, i will test it this evening, though, i have to finish my Cell Bio final presentation tonight... so 02:50 < kgb> valentin: do you have something writen on "SDE advocacy"? 03:00 < valentin> kgb: ? 03:01 < kgb> valentin: do you have something written on "why to use an SDE"? 03:02 < valentin> not realy except the stuff in our marketing paper and the few lines in the wiki i added months ago 03:03 < kgb> do you know if rene has something? 03:03 < valentin> nope 03:04 < valentin> why ? 03:04 < valentin> i think the answer to "what is an SDE" implies "when to use an SDE" 03:06 < kgb> i was looking for something more agressive 03:09 < kgb> i was thinking in writing something like "customizing distributions considered harmful" 03:10 < valentin> be carefull not to sound like those gentoo funrolloopers 03:10 < _Lewellyn> valentin: that's the other end of the spectrum ;) 03:11 < kgb> valentin: gentoo is harmful too :) 03:12 < kgb> valentin: but yes, i'll be carefull 03:12 < valentin> i did not want to generalize this for all g* users 03:13 < valentin> just those kiddies in every forum telling stories about their 200% faster -O6 -funroll-loop 'ed systems LOL 03:15 < valentin> i will lay down for sleep soon 03:15 < valentin> kgb: what happened to mnemoc ? 03:16 < kgb> it's powered off 03:16 < kgb> until tomorrow 03:16 < valentin> powered off ? so i had been talking to mnemoc-bot all the time ? 03:17 < kgb> i'm more focused on maintainance than ultra-performance 03:17 < valentin> :) 03:17 < kgb> valentin: nah.... mnemoc is on my irssi at shell box 03:18 < valentin> i thought mnemoc is a human beeing and not some virtual whatever ,) 03:18 < _Lewellyn> kgb is the one who watches over mnemoc :) 03:18 < kgb> and acx100 (wifi) i used on my laptop got roasted after a classmate started obsutrctuing it 03:18 < kgb> _Lewellyn: :) 03:19 < kgb> he replaced it with an acx111 03:19 < kgb> but acx111 drivers doesn't load firmware properly 03:19 < kgb> so i can't connect via wifi from linux 03:20 < kgb> kgb is the username used by /me at windows+chatzilla :'( 03:24 -!- keinek is now known as mnemoc 03:24 < mnemoc> hi i mnemoc bla bla bla 03:24 -!- mnemoc is now known as keinek 03:24 < keinek> :) 03:24 < keinek> just a test ;) 03:25 < keinek> Nickserv kick only if the right user log with the pass? 03:25 < valentin> yep 03:25 < keinek> Mmmm this is dangerous. 03:25 < valentin> otherwise anyone could ghost everyone 03:26 < kgb> :) 03:26 < keinek> i thinks that kgb now is in a vacation. 03:27 < keinek> be mnemoc is hard. 03:27 < keinek> lots of questions. 03:27 < keinek> :D 03:27 < kgb> mnemoc doesn't have vacations 03:27 < keinek> right. 03:27 < keinek> "HEY EVERYBODY, MNEMOC IS HERE!!!!" 03:28 < keinek> :) 03:28 < keinek> t2 work fine. 03:28 < keinek> the server work best than debian. 03:28 < keinek> the mldonkey work better. 03:33 < _Lewellyn> kgb: you played with the latest livecd yet? 03:34 < kgb> r10.... i can't download it here 03:38 < _Lewellyn> :( 03:38 < kgb> why? 03:42 < _Lewellyn> didn't rene add more wifi stuff? 03:49 < kgb> ipw2200 iirc 04:02 < _Lewellyn> just that? :( 04:04 < kgb> i added acx100 long time ago 04:04 < kgb> i don't know why my firmware doesn't load for this specific card 05:44 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has joined #t2 06:10 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.165] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:33 -!- kgb [~amery@pc-120-204-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #t2 [] 07:48 -!- dualopteron [~dualopter@Dardeene-68.188.44.193.charter-stl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:48 -!- dualopteron [~dualopter@Dardeene-68.188.44.193.charter-stl.com] has joined #t2 07:52 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 07:52 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:54 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 08:56 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF924D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 08:57 < mtr> moin moin 10:05 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 10:05 < jeru> moin 10:06 < jeru> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html <- doesn't look bad atm 10:25 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.215.171.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:26 < jeru> moin sepp :) 10:27 < sepp_> moin jeru :) 10:27 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.214.104.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:27 < jeru> sepp_: btw, nice grub bootsplash ;) 10:29 < rxr> re 10:31 < jeru> ahh ... hi rxr :) 10:32 < jeru> rxr: btw, you should have mail ;) 10:32 < valentin> moin 10:33 < rxr> hi valentin 10:34 < jeru> hi valentin 10:34 < valentin> rxr: my uncle could have a job for you 10:34 < valentin> he will call you 10:46 < rxr> he has 10:47 < valentin> but it is not linux related 10:51 < rxr> i heared 11:51 < SerWou> just back from my printer friend who printed for me the t2 handbook, gonna read this to start ;) ;) 12:01 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.215.171.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:19 < valentin> http://www.colawp.com/colas/400/cola467_recipe.html 12:20 < valentin> a cola recipe licensed under the gpl :D 12:21 < valentin> hm, where can i buy the caffeine ? 13:06 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/38218.html 13:13 < valentin> what is the difference between xdelta and vdelta ? 13:13 < rxr> no idea ,-) 13:13 < rxr> (pasted from the release node ,-) 13:14 < rxr> they claim it is faster for their use-case 13:14 < rxr> I believe them 13:14 < valentin> maybe they removed a debug sleep(1) here and there ... 13:15 < rxr> I doubt 13:16 < rxr> the subversion people seem to do quite mature programming 13:16 < rxr> in contrast to e.g. d-bus / hal or gnome folks ... 13:17 < rxr> What's New in Subversion 1.2 13:17 < rxr> FSFS repository back end is now the default 13:17 < rxr> oh 13:17 < jeru> oh ... if you wanna do gnome stuff -> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html 13:18 < jeru> ;) 13:18 < jeru> i.e. fixing nautilus ? ... evil g 13:18 < jeru> checking for libnautilus... configure: error: you need nautilus development packages installed ! 13:19 < jeru> rxr: do you know where this libnautilus comes from ? 13:19 < jeru> part of eel ? 13:19 < rxr> Faster access to old revisions due to xdelta compression (server) 13:19 < rxr> The repository is now using the xdelta differencing algorithm (instead of vdelta) to store compressed difference data. When you upgrade to Subversion 1.2, existing repositories will continue to work fine; the revision history will simply be a mixture of xdelta and vdelta differences. 13:19 < rxr> The xdelta algorithm is much faster at reconstructing older files, and thus there's motivation to dump and reload your existing repository. If you do this, you forcibly re-compress all repository history using the xdelta algorithm, resulting in a noticeable speedup in operations that ask the server to reconstruct older data: svn blame, svn checkout, svn update, svn diff, svn merge, and so on. Even dumping the repository will be faster. 13:19 < rxr> Note: There's a small trade off between speed and disk space. If you choose to re-deltify your whole repository using xdelta, its size will grow by roughly 10 to 15 percent. 13:20 < rxr> jeru: isn't libnautilus in nautilus ? 13:21 < jeru> rxr: I don't know ... I'm less a "gnome" than you ;) 13:21 * jeru hides 13:21 < jeru> rxr: but configure complains about it 13:23 < rxr> grep flist does not yield reasonable matches 13:23 < jeru> oh ... I can't read anymore ... the failure was from nautilus-media 13:24 < rxr> var/adm/flists/nautilus:nautilus: opt/gnome2/lib/libnautilus-private.so 13:24 < rxr> var/adm/flists/nautilus:nautilus: opt/gnome2/lib/libnautilus-extension.so 13:24 < rxr> oh - damn - how got it 13.xx ... ? 13:25 < jeru> rxr: ? 13:37 < rxr> late ... 13:39 < jeru> ah ... ic 13:43 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.211.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:43 < sepp> hi 13:44 < rxr> sepp: my girlfriend kind of dislikes the logo tarball ... 13:44 < jeru> hi sepp 13:44 < rxr> seems we need s.th. else :-( 13:46 < jeru> rxr: what happens here ? your girlfriend dislikes sth. and we've to change it .... ? ;) 13:46 < sepp> hehe 13:46 < jeru> rxr: what's the problem with logo ? 13:47 < sepp> for the live hardware list: ESS ES1968 Maestro 2, nVidia Quadro FX 1000 works 13:50 < rxr> sepp: no real idea 13:50 < rxr> it has too less "aussage" 13:50 < sepp> the logo? 13:51 < rxr> and does not look attractive to hear 13:51 < rxr> her 13:51 < valentin> *lunch* 13:51 < rxr> no real idea 13:51 < rxr> cu valentin 13:51 * rxr breakfast 13:51 < valentin> rxr: what about the puzzle you had before ? besides there were gnomes in it ? 13:52 < jeru> some builds on the ref build failed because of shared files with other packages i.e. kaffeine + kaxtv 13:55 < rxr> ah - yes I like the puzzle pieces 13:56 < rxr> they resemble that T2 is build up and can be build out of so many componenets, puzzle pieces 14:01 < jeru> wasn't valentin a little puzzle maniac too ? 14:02 < jeru> do we have a picture from that t2 puzzle picture ? 14:02 < rxr> ouhm - next mac driver issue ... 14:02 < rxr> ouhm - seem to be come osx days today and tomorrow ... 14:03 < rxr> libtool: install: error: cannot install `_core.la' to a directory not ending in 14:03 < rxr> /usr/lib/svn-python/libsvn 14:03 < rxr> hm 14:03 < rxr> k# svn --version 14:03 < rxr> svn, version 1.2.0 (r14790) 14:05 < jeru> rxr: do you have updated to svn 1.2 ? 14:06 < jeru> I read about some problems regarding svn 1.2 and its python bindings 14:09 < rxr> looks so ... 14:10 < CIA-9> chris * r9105 /trunk/package/develop/clearsilver/ (clearsilver.desc zlib-Makefile.patch): 14:10 < CIA-9> * updated clearsilver (0.9.13 -> 0.9.14) 14:10 < CIA-9> * removed zlib-Makefile.patch, not needed anymore 14:10 < jeru> rxr: nowI remember ... the trac people have an open issue regarding svn 1.2 + python 14:36 < rxr> Sun lashes out at open source J2SE 14:37 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10659 14:43 < rxr> me phoning the GEZ to coplain aobut internet taxes 14:43 < valentin> hm - i think gez ppl will not help you 14:44 < valentin> we have to stop this law - if you want to do something, you have to contact your MdP 14:48 < rxr> isn't the gez making this stuff up on its own ? 14:48 < sepp> no 14:48 < valentin> the gez is just the "behoerde" 14:48 < valentin> the law was initiated by the broadcasters 14:49 < valentin> if there will be this law, then we all have to pay, so the only possibility is to stop that law 14:49 < sepp> the "prime ministers" decide about the amount of money they are allowed to waste 14:49 < rxr> The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.spiege.de/ 14:49 < rxr> The following error was encountered: Access Denied. Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect. 14:49 < rxr> Your cache administrator is webmaster@spiegel.de. 14:50 < rxr> oh - forgot a l ... 14:51 < valentin> the most embarrassing thing is that you have to pay two full gez tax when you have a private tv and a pc in your office 14:53 < rxr> I do not hand them any more cent than what I pay for radio now ... 14:54 < rxr> and most of my radio is consumed by listenint to a france mp3 stream I have to pay for myself ... 14:54 < rxr> so - someone will call me back tomorrow morning ... 14:55 < jeru> rxr: good luck 14:55 < rxr> and if we all call our mp 14:55 < jeru> mp ? 14:55 < rxr> it can not be that we have to pay for having internet connection 14:55 < rxr> call / write whatever 14:56 < jeru> military police ? 14:56 < rxr> MdP 14:56 < rxr> jeru: yeah 14:56 < rxr> those too - could bomb away those broadcast machinery 14:56 < jeru> btw, 14:56 < jeru> why we don't have version.h in /usr/include 14:57 < rxr> what should it contain ? 14:57 < jeru> I don't know ... but I have to play with gfs the next weeks at work 14:58 < jeru> and they have a configure script which wants to have versions.h 14:58 < jeru> version.h 14:58 < sepp> that changed with 2.6.11 iirc 14:58 < rxr> maybe /usr/include/linux/version.h ? 14:58 < valentin> a telepolis author had a good idea: private broadcasting stations do not have to pay gez for their tvs and pcs because this would be unfair challenge. now according to ARD and ZDF internet content is broadcasting too - so every website user should claim to be a private broadcaster 14:59 < rxr> valentin: cool 14:59 < jeru> we could broadcast T2 news 14:59 < rxr> ok - let's become a private ramdon midi generated mp3 broadcast for berlin 14:59 < jeru> ok 15:00 < rxr> jeru: but if it is a kernel module it must be build postlinux anyway 15:00 < jeru> yeah ... I know. I just want to get a "feeling" how it's build anyway ;) 15:06 < jeru> rxr: have you ever played around with kdbl ? It seems to be a dependency for building gfs 15:07 < jeru> I mean the gfs kernel module 15:08 < rxr> no 15:25 -!- mipe [~Ark@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 15:32 < rxr> valentin: we nee the network gui 15:32 < rxr> they just called ... 15:33 < rxr> wanted to go internet ... 15:33 < rxr> well - ... 15:35 < valentin> this will be a long night then 15:35 < rxr> well - relax and make sure it works the day after tomorrow ... 15:35 < rxr> I'm exhauted - no need to push this out tomorrow 15:36 < rxr> I nede to do osx first anyweay 15:36 < valentin> day after tomorrow ,) 15:37 < valentin> rxr: but except the ppp error part and dynamic dhcp status display i should finish most stuff today so we can do some testing tomorow 15:38 < rxr> ok 15:41 -!- Postal [~edinatux1@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:44 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.165] has joined #t2 15:44 < keinek> hi 15:45 -!- |mipe| [~Ark@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 15:47 -!- Postal [~edinatux1@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 15:47 < Postal> Hello all 15:48 < rxr> hi postal 15:50 -!- mipe [~Ark@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:52 < Postal> this cell bio project is killing me 15:54 < rxr> Postal: you should never raise cells that kill you ... 15:54 < rxr> I hope we do not yet need to notiy homeland security ... 15:54 < rxr> IT: Virus Hold Computer Files 'Hostage' for $200 15:55 < rxr> ... 15:55 < rxr> Layoffs at OSDL 15:55 < rxr> ... It will establish a European office and expand into Asia. ... 15:55 < rxr> valentin: maybe we should apply for a european OSDL office *g* 15:56 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AF8F75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 16:00 < CIA-9> rene * r9106 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/ (subversion.conf subversion.desc): 16:00 < CIA-9> * updated subversion (1.1.4 -> 1.2.0) - fixed python binding 16:00 < CIA-9> installation by disabling PYTHON_SITE hacks 16:02 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF924D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:08 < sepp> have to replace some hardware 16:08 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.211.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 16:12 < jeru> rxr: does disabling PYTHON_SITE hacks means that there are no python bindings in the trunk version of svn anymore ? 16:13 -!- |mipe| is now known as mipe 16:14 < mipe> its bloody hard to come up an idea for gradu work 16:14 < mipe> err thats thesis 16:16 < jeru> rxr: ahh ... I see what you've done regarding the python bindings ... Afaics, I can fix it this evening. 16:17 < mipe> rxr: about the gccc & dietlibc on amd64, how do you want to proceed? keep the updated version of dietlibc? 16:21 < rxr> mipe: I would like to - best would be to find out what code change made gcc ICE ... 16:21 < rxr> go work around it in some way .. 16:22 < rxr> you could also work with a locally downdated version until we find a fix 16:26 < rxr> quite some people come to the t2 site via http://www.stumbleupon.com/ 16:32 < jeru> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg ref 16:32 < jeru> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-reference: 16:32 < jeru> [5] java/classpath [5] java/kaffe 16:32 < jeru> [5] mail/spamassassin [5] gnome2/balsa 16:32 < jeru> [5] gnome2/devilspie [5] multimedia/nvrec 16:32 < jeru> [5] x11-modular/xserver [5] multimedia/vls 16:32 < jeru> [5] multimedia/ggrab [5] gnome2/nautilus-media 16:32 < jeru> [5] multimedia/deva [5] gnome2/gdesklets 16:32 < jeru> [5] games/xarchon [5] games/xconq 16:32 < jeru> [5] develop/ocs [5] scientific/root 16:32 < jeru> [5] e17/e-utils [5] kde/kaffeine 16:32 < jeru> [5] network/tidy [5] graphic/libpano 16:32 < jeru> [5] graphic/hugin 16:32 < jeru> 1621 builds total, 1576 completed fine, 21 with errors. 16:32 < jeru> error logs can be viewed here -> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html 16:42 < jeru> ok ... have to move away now ... cu later 16:42 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 16:49 * rxr getting some food - cu 16:52 < valentin> have to leave now for our breathing seminar 16:53 < valentin> cu 17:04 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178182094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:04 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 17:04 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 17:04 [Users #t2] 17:04 [ _Lewellyn] [ dualopteron] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly ] 17:04 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly[U5]] 17:04 [ CIA-9 ] [ mipe ] [ Postal] [ SerWou] [ valentin ] 17:04 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 17:04 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 17:04 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 17:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 17:16 -!- rxr [~rene@e178186033.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:19 < rxr_> re 17:20 -!- You're now known as rxr 17:25 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.20] has joined #t2 17:25 < CIA-9> rene * r9107 /trunk/package/x86/grub/ (6 files): 17:25 < CIA-9> * added splash patch to grub and patched the menu border away 17:25 < CIA-9> (later on we might like to apply the later only to the desktop/live 17:25 < CIA-9> target and the former a SDECFG_ option ...) 17:26 < mnemoc> moin! 17:27 < rxr> oh my god 17:27 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/05/2017440208575.patch 17:28 < rxr> hi mnemoc ! 17:29 < mnemoc> +gnome2_dirtree() <--- cool function 17:31 < rxr> I better do not elaborate on this patch 17:38 < mipe> in i386, what file contains F_SETLK64, unionfs is erroring because of this, need to patch linux-header i guess 17:39 < mnemoc> mipe: c'est la vie 17:44 < SerWou> si c'est la vie alors ;) 17:44 < mipe> mnemoc: ??? 17:44 < mnemoc> :) 17:44 < mnemoc> that's life 17:45 < mnemoc> linux-headers need lot of sanitization to be usable 17:45 < SerWou> et voilą ;) 17:46 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h: 17:46 < mipe> mnemoc: yep,but this one was easy to fix, well these usually are... 17:46 < rxr> /usr/include/asm/fcntl.h 17:53 < mnemoc> minto!!! 18:05 < rxr> uh my god 18:05 < rxr> now Microsoft looses so much martked share that they invest into tv commercials ... 18:05 < rxr> just saw one between my enterprise entertainment ... 18:05 < rxr> my god ... 18:05 * rxr shoked 18:07 < Postal> rene, i am testing the beta3 livecd now 18:08 < Postal> the sata modules work, and were loaded at startup 18:08 < Postal> ;-) 18:09 < Postal> dhcp is not yet automatic, but my network card modules were loaded automaticly also 18:10 < Postal> this beta is MUCH better 18:10 < mnemoc> there are three different dhcp commands on rocknet 18:10 < mnemoc> dhcp, dhcpcd and udhcp 18:10 < mnemoc> which are you using? 18:11 < rxr> dhcp 18:11 < rxr> (normally) 18:11 < mnemoc> why? 18:11 < mnemoc> isc's come with fat dhcp server 18:11 < rxr> what do you use ? 18:12 < mnemoc> i use udhcp, but dhcpcd is more standard and light enough for desktop 18:12 < Postal> i usually use dhcpcd, this time i used dhclient 18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: then we should change the keywords accordingly 18:13 < rxr> dhcp should be the sane standard choice .. 18:13 < Postal> :) 18:13 < Postal> ill brb im going to get on irc on the live cd 18:14 -!- Postal [~edinatux1@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has left #t2 [] 18:14 < mnemoc> by dhcp you mean 'isc' or a common statement for rocknet config? 18:15 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 18:15 < Postal> Hey all 18:15 < mnemoc> :) 18:15 < Postal> I have never used this irc program before.. i always use xchat 18:15 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:16 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 18:16 < Postal> So i guess that I should not close the Server Control window then lol 18:17 < Postal> in hindsight it was a bad idea lol 18:18 < Postal> Ok, so I am going to cross compile 18:19 < Postal> do I need a sperate boot partiton and such? 18:21 < Postal> or can i just partition my HD into one large partition? 18:27 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 18:28 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 18:28 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFBDCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:29 < jeru> moin 18:29 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 18:29 < Postal> hmmm 18:30 < mnemoc> moin plone 18:30 < jeru> oO( am I here ?)o 18:31 < mnemoc> i can seeeeeeee you 18:31 < jeru> mnemoc: how are you today ? 18:31 < jeru> mnemoc: better have a look at http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html :p 18:32 < mnemoc> :'( 18:32 < jeru> mnemoc: but it's better than before with 60+ broken builds 18:33 < jeru> some of them are a bit strange because the build fails due to shared files with other packages 18:36 < rxr> re 18:36 < rxr> hi jeru 18:37 < jeru> hi rxr 18:37 < rxr> MacOS X getting on my nerves ... 18:37 < SerWou> hehe rxr 18:37 < SerWou> my teachers force me to use G5 and tiger 18:37 < Postal> ill brb i have to reboot to use the new partition table 18:37 < SerWou> ... 18:37 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 18:55 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2 18:55 < Postal> In a cross compile, under architecture, do I specify the target arch? 18:57 < rxr> yes - the target 18:57 < Postal> rxr: can i just use one big partition, or should i make a /boot and so on? 19:00 < rxr> Postal: one partition is enought 19:01 < rxr> -t 19:01 < Postal> cool 19:01 < Postal> i suppose that this compile will take longer in 32 bit.. 19:01 < rxr> nope 19:02 < Postal> really 19:02 < rxr> actual 64 bit code is normally not faster than 32bit code ... 19:02 < Postal> rxr: then whats the point? 19:02 < rxr> and 64bit code takes longer to generate - more registers and data types to schedule ... 19:03 < rxr> well - you need 64bit for lot of memory 19:03 < rxr> and for applications accessing huge amounts of data - such as databaes - but also video editing can benefit ... 19:03 < Postal> good, i do video editing 19:03 < rxr> well - and on x86 64 bit code "can" be faster because x86-64 has more registers ... 19:04 < Postal> once in a 64 bit enviroment, do things run faster... not compile faster, but run faster? 19:05 < Postal> well its building now 19:06 < Postal> would be helpful if i dl first 19:07 < Postal> rxr: after i get out of finals, you need to let me correct some of the grammer on the website... 19:16 < Postal> it would make it a little easier to understand 19:18 < mipe> hmm,linux26 still fails, adm8211 doesnt do compile stage at all 19:18 < mipe> just tryes to copy module but its not there since it didnt build it 19:20 < rxr> mipe: hm 19:21 < rxr> I have indded not tested a stage1 bulid of the adm8211 driver 19:26 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:33 < Postal> yeay stage 1 19:40 < rxr> good 19:41 < rxr> I was not sure if the livecd contains all to build T2 ... 19:41 < rxr> you use the live cd to build ? 19:44 < Postal> yes 19:45 < mnemoc> .oO( misc/boot/livecd )o 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: .o(credit card size live cd for data rescue, discovery, administration, ...) 19:56 < mnemoc> t2@live is a target, but livecd must be a feature 19:57 < rxr> define feature 19:57 < mnemoc> [X] livecd 19:59 < jeru> mnemoc: that would be nice 19:59 < mnemoc> i hope that definition is good enough :) 19:59 < rxr> ouhm 19:59 < rxr> Compilers in Mac OS X automatically convert the 4-character representation to the integer representation when they encounter four characters within single quotes, such as ???GIFf???. 20:00 < rxr> ^- quote from "Cocoa/Conceptual/LowLevelFileMgmt" 20:00 < rxr> mnemoc: if we do it this way, we also shoudl obsolete the install target on the way: 20:00 < rxr> [X] installable 20:01 < rxr> [ ] livecd 20:01 < rxr> [ ] ROM image 20:01 < rxr> [ ] nothing - you care 20:02 < jeru> rxr: I think this would be more intuitive for SDE users:) 20:02 < mnemoc> yes 20:02 < rxr> this would also imply deep changes in the way the images are generated 20:02 < rxr> and this is necessary anyway 20:02 < rxr> we _MUST_ factor out boot loader setup of the targets 20:03 < rxr> as long planed 20:03 < mnemoc> yes 20:03 < rxr> and the bootdisk target is damned anyway 20:03 < mnemoc> we can keep packaging 'nothing - you care 20:03 < mnemoc> ' builds on an installable ISO 20:03 < rxr> and it wasts a lot of build time resources just building "crap" 20:03 < mnemoc> yes 20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: but we want a quick 2.2, ok? 20:04 < rxr> not so deep changes ... 20:04 < rxr> just the udev modular kernel and state of the art live cd and off it goes in 2 month max, ok ? 20:04 < jeru> rxr: yes ... :) 20:05 < rxr> and then 2.3 is major "boot code" creation overhaul ? 20:05 < mnemoc> foo-% for 2.4? 20:06 < rxr> and some time on the way we should implement "building on otherwise doomed systems" such as os x 20:06 < mnemoc> we need a roadmap on our CMS..... jeru? :) 20:06 < rxr> that is no target but only in-system builds for them ... 20:06 < jeru> mnemoc: ok ok .... :) 20:06 < mnemoc> :) 20:06 < rxr> slowlaris and windoze would be other candidates - if someone would care about those toy wannabe OSes 20:07 < rxr> at least Slowlaris seemt o migrate to use a mature boot loader for x86 - grub that is *g* 20:07 < mnemoc> i think it's more important to have other OSes as target than as hosts 20:07 < rxr> maybe they even decide to replace their wannabe language called kaffee with s.th. more mature ... 20:07 < rxr> (and open source= 20:07 < rxr> ) even 20:08 < rxr> have I said today that it took me 2 hours to find "Saving HFS Type and Creator Codes" on the Apple site ? 20:08 < mnemoc> what opensource java is more mature than kaffe? 20:08 < jeru> mnemoc: I guess "kaffee" was german meaning "java" 20:08 < rxr> I would love to use T2 to Emerge subversion on my osx when I have to work on the evil size of money racing ... 20:08 < rxr> raising even? 20:09 < rxr> jeru: ack - I meant java of course ... 20:09 < rxr> toy language that is ... 20:09 < mnemoc> i see Emerge on misc hosts completly out of the scope of an SDE 20:09 < mnemoc> cool, but out of scope 20:10 < mnemoc> rxr, btw... do you have something written on "SDE advocacy"? (why an SDE?,...) 20:10 < rxr> ouhm - started it ... but - these days I'm already loaded with coding and business organization (that is getting money and paper work around it done= 20:11 < rxr> ) even 20:11 < rxr> but I could donate time for such conceptual paper in the next time 20:11 < rxr> as "T2 SDE" promotion work 20:12 < mnemoc> we should prepare material on that field... even some presentations 20:12 < mnemoc> why an SDE, and then why T2 20:12 -!- mipe [~Ark@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 20:13 < rxr> yes - but those work always consumes _a lot_ of time ... 20:14 < mnemoc> colaborative work would reduce that 20:14 < mnemoc> .oO( work aligned )o 20:14 < jeru> mnemoc: ack 20:18 < mnemoc> currenlty we only atract people who already knows the pain non SDE/DBK options are 20:19 < Postal> dietlibc errored out 20:19 < Postal> where do i find the logs again? 20:20 < mnemoc> i saw skaar yesterday on #plone.... he is back on openbsd 20:20 < mnemoc> src.foo.*/ERROR-LOG 20:21 < jeru> mnemoc: sorry, but who is skaar ? 20:22 < mnemoc> he leaved rock when i arrived.... back on 2002 :) 20:22 < rxr> valentin: I registered EXAC as creator ID for our products at Apple ... 20:22 < Postal> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-cc -I. -isystem include -Os -fstrict-aliasing -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -mfancy-math-387 -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wno-switch -Wno-unused -Wredundant-decls -c dyn_start.c -o bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o 20:22 < Postal> dyn_start.c:42: internal compiler error: in named_section_flags, at varasm.c:394 20:22 < Postal> Please submit a full bug report, 20:22 < Postal> with preprocessed source if appropriate. 20:22 < rxr> the better matches are already taken ... 20:22 < Postal> See for instructions. 20:22 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o] Error 1 20:22 < rxr> Postal: that is known :-() 20:22 < Postal> rxr: well at least its known 20:22 < rxr> and new 20:23 < rxr> you could revert the dietlibc update locally ... 20:23 < Postal> rxr: how? 20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r r8998: 20:26 < rxr> oops 20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r8998:8997 20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r8998:8997 . 20:26 < mnemoc> rxr: what is hook_add premake 5 "\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\"" on freetype1.conf? 20:27 < rxr> do not remeber off hand ... 20:27 < rxr> svn blame 20:27 < rxr> svn log revision-of-change 20:27 < rxr> but I guess since rev1 thre ... 20:27 < rxr> there even 20:28 < rxr> guess the top level makefiles executes subdir Makefiles non-standard 20:28 < rxr> and thus we bass the config option to them with CFG ... 20:28 < rxr> no ? 20:28 < mnemoc> \eval ? 20:28 < mnemoc> looks like tex :) 20:29 < mnemoc> 1 - premake="\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\"" 20:29 < mnemoc> trace ended there 20:29 < mnemoc> "$MAKE 'CFG=$makeopt'" has more sense to me 20:29 < rxr> mnemoc: it failes ? 20:29 < rxr> fails even ... 20:30 < rxr> damn - s.th. is wrong with my fingers ... 20:30 < rxr> .o(or the ibook keyboard ... ?) 20:30 < rxr> too much PC USB keyboard the last weeks .... ? 20:31 < mnemoc> ==[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> eval '\eval make CFG="-j4 CC="$CC" CPP="$CPP" CXX="$CXX" prefix="/$prefix""' 20:31 < mnemoc> ===[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> eval make 'CFG=-j4 CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr' 20:31 < mnemoc> ====[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> make CFG=-j4 CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr 20:31 < mnemoc> cd lib; make -f arch/unix/Makefile all 20:31 < Postal> rene, that command did not work 20:32 < rxr> mnemoc: didn't it build since ages ? 20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: no, it builds 20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: but the line is uuuuugly 20:32 < rxr> why do you look at xtrace logs of building packages ? 20:32 < rxr> hell - you have free time ? 20:32 < rxr> go and write presentatinos ... 20:33 < mnemoc> and i don't find the sense of it 20:33 < rxr> mnemoc: svn blame it ... 20:33 < mnemoc> [14:30:07] 1 - premake="\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\"" 20:33 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. you read when I reload the repositories svn blame will become faster ? 20:33 < rxr> ah 20:33 < rxr> ... 20:33 < mnemoc> my biggest latency isn't at svn itself 20:34 < rxr> but? 20:34 < mnemoc> network :) 20:35 < rxr> #include 20:35 < rxr> /Users/rene/develop/exact-scan/AppController.M:48:40: QuickTime/ImageCompression.h: No such file or directory 20:35 < rxr> ?!?!!? 20:35 < rxr> this damn shit osx update stuff .. 20:35 < mnemoc> exact-scan? again? 20:35 < rxr> recently it mangled some other system header 20:35 < rxr> and now it destroyed QuickTime fluff ... 20:36 < rxr> h*ll 20:36 < rxr> I want my Linux back .. 20:36 < rxr> lety try the automated QuickTime SDK update I did not wanted to appyl some hours ago ... 20:37 < mnemoc> jeru: your skin product made my plone tableless 20:37 < jeru> mnemoc: what's the problem with it ? 20:37 < mnemoc> jeru: and i don't see you skin to be selected 20:38 < jeru> mnemoc: not ? 20:38 < mnemoc> jeru: nothing changed but the sloted bellow the content 20:38 < mnemoc> jeru: intranet.conosur.0 20:41 < rxr> wow 20:41 < rxr> now I get thousands of 20:41 < rxr> /Users/rene/develop/exact-scan/AppController.M:48:40: QuickTime/ImageCompression.h: No such file or directory 20:41 < rxr> error: redefinition of `int AVAILABLE_MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4_AND_LATER' 20:44 < _Lewellyn> rxr: did you see my early reports of running the livecd under vmware? 20:45 < rxr> no idea 20:45 < jeru> _Lewellyn: it worked on my site using livecd beta 20:45 < _Lewellyn> video works fine, net works fine. so far, everything is working fine. cannot test sound as i can't get sound working on the host. 20:45 < _Lewellyn> this was with vmware 4.5.2-8848 20:45 < jeru> _Lewellyn: ah ok 20:46 < _Lewellyn> i'll poke at it more as i have time. 20:46 < _Lewellyn> jeru: did you try it under vmware 5? 20:46 < jeru> no 20:46 < _Lewellyn> hm. guess i'll have to have someone here do that later then 20:47 < jeru> I don't know the exact version but it was with v4 at work 20:47 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i also discovered why my pendrive didn't work :/ 20:47 < rxr> why? 20:50 < _Lewellyn> i have to mount the device directly; there is no partition table. just a raw ntfs partition. i apparently formatted it as a giant ntfs floppy from within xp. 20:50 < _Lewellyn> it even shows up with a floppy icon and a "hard disk" description in My Computer 20:52 < rxr> cu 20:52 < _Lewellyn> oh. and in the kde desktop of the livecd... i get my floppy drive showing up as a hard disk icon 20:52 < _Lewellyn> have a good night :) 21:02 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:02 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 21:40 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.217.222.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:40 < sepp> hi all 21:40 < mnemoc> hi sepp 21:41 < sepp> mnemoc: i added java dirtree but bdb still gets --enable-java 21:42 < sepp> i was too lazy to look why i simply disabled ... 21:42 < sepp> it 21:45 < _Lewellyn> oh. we have mnemoc again! :) 21:46 < sepp> if [ "$JAVA_HOME" ] should eval. to false if i have no jre/jdk ? 21:47 < valentin> remoin 21:47 < mnemoc> sepp: that's the idea 21:47 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: yes :) 21:47 < sepp> but it does not work :( 21:48 < mnemoc> sepp: cd src.bdb.*/ 21:48 < mnemoc> sepp: ./debug.sh 21:48 < mnemoc> echo $JAVA_HOME 21:49 < sepp> moment 21:50 < mnemoc> anothe thing can be reset-ing JAVA_HOME on top of java-dirtree/parse-config 21:50 < mnemoc> if it comes from outside 21:51 -!- tilix [~root@pppoe29.bol.bg] has joined #t2 21:52 < mnemoc> hi t2-project.bg 21:52 < tilix> hi 21:55 < sepp> uhm ./debug.sh 21:55 < sepp> /bin/bash: TOOLCHAIN/src.bdb.1117050762.23041.7f0100/debug_x.sh: No such file or directory 21:55 < sepp> from bdb 21:55 < sepp> !> The package build aborted with the following config error: 21:55 < sepp> !> pkgprefix: package java-dirtree is not present 21:55 < sepp> damn 21:55 < sepp> wrong dir 21:58 < sepp> mnemoc: echo $JAVA_HOME /opt/java/sun-jdk-1.5.0_03 21:58 < mnemoc> is that from outworld? 21:58 < sepp> yes 21:58 < mnemoc> vi package/*/java-dirtree/parse-config 22:03 < sepp> and? 22:07 < mnemoc> minute :p 22:07 < mnemoc> phone 22:07 < mnemoc> on line 29, unset JAVA_HOME 22:08 < sepp> i already fixed bdb with uncommenting the java things 22:09 < sepp> i only wanted to inform you that it does not work right now 22:10 < mnemoc> you were my option to test the fix :( 22:11 < sepp> so i shoul comment export JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH PATH ? 22:11 < sepp> should 22:11 < mnemoc> no no 22:11 < mnemoc> unset host's 22:12 < sepp> this is 2.1 22:12 < mnemoc> they are identical 22:13 < mnemoc> unset JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH before entering the for 22:13 < sepp> moment 22:15 < sepp> line 29??? 22:16 < mnemoc> before the for 22:17 < sepp> JAVA_EVERYJDK="sun-jdk-150 sun-jdk-142 ibm-jdk-142 blackdown-jdk" 22:18 < sepp> 22:18 < sepp> [ "$desc_F" != "${desc_F/KAFFE}" ] && 22:18 < sepp> JAVA_EVERYJDK="kaffe $JAVA_EVERYJDK" 22:18 < sepp> i am at revision 9107 22:18 < mnemoc> uhm 22:18 < mnemoc> you are missing a revision 22:18 < mnemoc> weird 22:19 < sepp> i svn up 1 minute ago, no bdb java-dirtree change 22:19 < mnemoc> or i forgot to commit something 22:19 < mnemoc> anyway, just before the 'for' unset JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH 22:19 < rxr> re 22:20 < rxr> valentin: urgently I need you ... 22:20 < mnemoc> the change missing is an exception to skip sun-jdk-150 for ooo 22:23 < sepp> 05/25/05 22:24:09 =[5]=> Finished building package bdb. 22:23 < sepp> :) 22:24 < mnemoc> good 22:24 < sepp> hmm my date is wrong 22:24 < mnemoc> hehe 22:25 < sepp> someone put my box into a time machine 22:25 < Postal> rxr: the command you gave me svn merge -r 8998:8997 to revert the dietlibc localy, does not work 22:25 < mnemoc> Postal: what did it output? 22:26 < Postal> rxr: the command you gave me svn merge -r 8998:8997 to revert the dietlibc localy, does not work 22:26 < Postal> opps 22:26 < Postal> merge: Apply the differences between two sources to a working copy path. 22:26 < Postal> usage: 1. merge sourceURL1[@N] sourceURL2[@M] [WCPATH] 22:26 < Postal> 2. merge sourceWCPATH1@N sourceWCPATH2@M [WCPATH] 22:26 < Postal> 3. merge -r N:M SOURCE[@REV] [WCPATH] 22:26 < Postal> and then it goes on in a man page type format 22:26 < mnemoc> you forgot the trailing dot 22:27 < mnemoc> svn merge -r 8998:8997 . 22:27 < Postal> ah 22:27 < Postal> that would do it 22:27 < Postal> ok now it works 22:27 < Postal> see its always the little things 22:27 < rxr> re 22:28 < rxr> hehe 22:28 < rxr> yep - forgot the . first, too .. 22:28 < rxr> so /me tired and such - falling into bed - cu early - around 6 ... 22:29 < Postal> ok 22:29 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. apple fuckup was precompiled header mismatch - damn crap ... 22:29 * Postal thinks rxr does not like apple 22:29 < sepp> so you want a new grub-splash? 22:31 < Postal> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start' 22:31 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 22:31 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/elftrunc] Error 1 22:31 < Postal> damn 22:31 < Postal> /home/media/t2/t2-trunk/src.dietlibc.1116970128.710.7f0100/dietlibc-0.28/bin-x86_64/start.o(.text+0x15): In function `_start': 22:31 < Postal> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start' 22:31 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 22:31 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/elftrunc] Error 1 22:31 < Postal> there 22:34 < rxr> sepp: me ? 22:34 < rxr> sepp: - the current one is ok for me - just not my gf ... 22:34 < rxr> but we should work on a real logo we all agree on and then matching artwork to use .. 22:34 < rxr> Postal: I can imagine what is wrong there ... 22:34 < rxr> well - maybe just disable dietlibc for now and go on with the build ... 22:34 < Postal> can or cannot 22:35 < Postal> isnt dietlibc important? 22:35 < rxr> well - more or less 22:35 < rxr> *g* 22:35 < rxr> I could provide a patch for your new problem 22:35 < rxr> but I need sleep now - and we shoudl work to get the latest one build anyway ... 22:35 < Postal> that would be fantastic 22:36 < Postal> this is true 22:36 < rxr> Postal: let's meet tomorrrow again 22:36 < rxr> I can try to track it here on a cross build ... 22:36 < rxr> cu 22:36 < Postal> well it will wait until tomorrow, its not going anywhere... but i think i may be home late tomorrow 22:37 < Postal> so ill svn up when i get home, and if you fixed it ill know 22:37 < Postal> gn8 22:56 < CIA-9> amery * r9108 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/parse-config: * fixed java-dirtree/parse-config to remove outter world's JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH 23:03 -!- tilix [~root@pppoe29.bol.bg] has left #t2 [] 23:06 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:06 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 23:20 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.199.52.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 23:42 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.217.222.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:59 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Wed May 25 00:00:53 2005