T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-29
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--- Log opened Sun May 29 00:00:11 2005
--- Day changed Sun May 29 2005
00:00 < valentin> quite good, as far as i know
00:00 < valentin> they are a real family now :)
00:00 < mnemoc_> hehe :)
00:00 < valentin> CIA ?
00:01 < mnemoc_> died 10 minutes ago :(
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00:21 < CIA-9> amery * r9177 /trunk/package/perl/perl-xml-parser/perl-xml-parser.desc: * merged 9169 from 2.1: repriorized perl-xml-parser before shared-mime-info (120.000)
00:25 < CIA-9> amery * r9178 /trunk/package/develop/guile/guile.desc: * merged 9168 from 2.1: marked guile as NOPARALLEL
00:26 < SerWou> eris : i can see you little boy ;)
00:27 < mnemoc_> eris is not here
00:30 < SerWou> perfect
00:30 < SerWou> ;)
00:30 < SerWou> i know he will read this log
00:31 < valentin> who is eris - i thought she was this crazy godess
00:33 < SerWou> mnemoc_ knows him
00:34 < valentin> afaik eris is female
00:34 < valentin> she threw the golden apple
00:34 < mnemoc_> SerWou: me?
00:35 < mnemoc_> valentin: yes
00:35 < SerWou> no you don't
00:35 < SerWou> ok
00:35 < SerWou> don't worry ;)
00:36 < mnemoc_> o_O
00:36 < SerWou> ;)
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01:19 < CIA-9> amery * r9179 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/sawfish/sawfish.desc: * marked sawfish as NOPARALLEL
01:31 < CIA-9> amery * r9180 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:31 < CIA-9> * updated libbonobomm (1.3.8 -> 2005-05-25)
01:31 < CIA-9> * updated libbonobouimm (1.3.7 -> 2005-05-25)
01:40 < CIA-9> amery * r9181 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.8 -> 0.10)
01:53 < valentin> gn8
01:54 < mnemoc_> gn8 valentin
02:13 < keinek> hola
02:13 < keinek> hi
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06:39 < mnemoc_> keinek: hi
06:40 < mnemoc_> 1670 builds total, 1173 completed fine, 7 with errors.
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08:38 < keinek> jo
08:38 < keinek> hi
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09:21 < rxr_> re
09:22 < mipe> morning rxr
09:23 < rxr_> hi mipe
09:23 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:29 < rxr> The GNU Hurd K9
10:17 < rxr> re
10:35 < CIA-9> rene * r9182 /trunk/package/gnome2/alleyoop/alleyoop.desc: * updated alleyoop (0.8.3 -> 0.9.0)
10:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9183 /trunk/package/cad/pcb/pcb.desc: * updated pcb (20050127 -> 20050315)
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9184 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/mdadm.desc: * updated mdadm (1.10.0 -> 1.11.0)
10:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9185 /trunk/source/TODO: * added a TODO to source/
10:48 < CIA-9> rene * r9186 /trunk/package/base/rfc/ (rfc.cache rfc.conf rfc.desc): * updated rfc and replaced hardcoded filenames with match_source_file
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r9187 /trunk/package/mail/exim/ (exim.conf exim.desc): * updated exim (4.44 -> 4.50)
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r9189 /trunk/package/mail/pine/pine.desc: * updated pine (4.62 -> 4.63)
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r9188 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.01 -> 2.02)
11:10 < valentin> moin
11:10 < rxr> hey valentin
11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r9191 /trunk/package/base/cpufreqd/cpufreqd.desc: * updated cpufreqd (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
11:11 < valentin> *yawn*
11:12 < rxr> the update tracker is cool - now if it would be extended to patch, tesstbuild and send status + patch it would be even cooler
11:12 < rxr> hey! - a web interface where you only need to hit apply reject ! ... ,-)
11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r9190 /trunk/package/www/links/links.desc: * updated links (2.1pre16 -> 2.1pre17)
11:12 < valentin> and we call it supermaster ,)
11:13 < rxr> yep
11:15 < rxr> or automator ,-)
11:18 < valentin> or upmaster
11:22 < CIA-9> rene * r9192 /trunk/package/base/howtos/ (howtos.conf howtos.desc):
11:22 < CIA-9> * updated howtos (20050529) - version the download and use
11:22 < CIA-9> match_source_file - no mini HOWTOs anymore and some old seem to be
11:22 < CIA-9> removed
11:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9193 /trunk/package/base/hddtemp/hddtemp.desc: * updated hddtemp (0.3-beta12 -> 0.3-beta13)
11:28 < CIA-9> rene * r9194 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.50 -> 4.51)
11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r9195 /trunk/package/base/psmisc/ (install.patch no-termcap.patch psmisc.desc): * updated psmisc (21.5 -> 21.6)
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r9196 /trunk/package/base/m4/m4.desc: * updated m4 (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r9197 /trunk/package/mail/anomy-mailtools/anomy-mailtools.desc: * updated anomy-mailtools (1.70 -> 1.71)
11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r9198 /trunk/package/mail/mailscanner/ (mailscanner.conf mailscanner.desc): * updated mailscanner (4.31.2-1 -> 4.42.5-1)
11:56 < mipe> re
11:56 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2/livecd/regressions.html
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r9199 /trunk/scripts/Download:
11:57 < CIA-9> * implemented .Z recompression, since the bz2filename funciton already
11:57 < CIA-9> translates .Z to bz2 and dcc failed due to the bz2 not present ...
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r9200 /trunk/package/mail/dcc/dcc.desc: * updated dcc (1.2.69 -> 1.3.5)
12:00 < mipe> does anyone else have trunk ref regression reports? i'd like to see if i have the same package build errors as x86...
12:01 < rxr> mipe: I think jeru started
12:01 < CIA-9> rene * r9201 /trunk/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * updated bogofilter (0.94.6 -> 0.94.7)
12:02 < rxr> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/trunkref/regressions.html
12:03 < rxr> hm - not that advanced
12:03 < rxr> guess his box froze again or so ...
12:03 < valentin> oh
12:04 < rxr> valentin: ?
12:04 < valentin> 12:03 < rxr> guess his box froze again or so ...
12:05 < rxr> ok - most updates processed ...
12:05 < rxr> all tested of course ...
12:10 < rxr> how good is clamav ?
12:12 < valentin> no idea
12:12 < valentin> i think it is not so recent like the commercial scanners
12:12 < mipe> AM_PATH_GTK_2_0(2.0.0, CFLAGS="$CFLAGS $GTK_CFLAGS"
12:12 < mipe> can someone spot an error on that line?
12:13 < valentin> it is incomplete
12:13 < valentin> at least a ')' is missing
12:13 < valentin> but it could be continued in the line below
12:13 < mipe> yes but the error comes from 2.0.0 spot
12:14 < valentin> message ?
12:14 < mipe> ./configure: line 5926: syntax error near unexpected token `2.0.0,'
12:14 < mipe> ./configure: line 5926: ` AM_PATH_GTK_2_0(2.0.0, CFLAGS="$CFLAGS
12:14 < mipe> $GTK_CFLAGS"'
12:14 < valentin> ouhm
12:15 < valentin> ah
12:15 < mipe> i guess aclocal cant find gtk*.m4 file
12:15 < valentin> it is configure ?
12:15 < mipe> ?
12:15 < mipe> yep
12:15 < valentin> in configure there should be no AM_* macros at all
12:15 < valentin> yep, seems some macro definitions where missing when creating config
12:17 < mipe> hmm,where do i set aclocal search paths?
12:18 < mipe> ie the file gtk*.m4 is in right place(opt/gnome2/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4), but for somereason it doesnt find it
12:19 < valentin> dunno - maybe in environment vars ?
12:39 < rxr> hm - somehow this crappy cdrecord ruined my shiny new cd-rw ...
12:39 < rxr> yesterday it misburned it - and today it can not blank=disc
12:50 < valentin> oh
13:32 < rxr> cdrecord man-page:
13:32 < rxr> The following message is not an error:
13:32 < rxr> Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 2048/2048 (1 sectors).
13:32 < rxr> cdrecord: I/O error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error
13:32 < rxr> CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
13:32 < rxr> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
13:32 < rxr> Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 80 00 00 27 0A 00 00 00 00 B5 00 00 00 00 00
13:32 < rxr> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
13:32 < rxr> Sense Code: 0xB5 Qual 0x00 (dummy data blocks added) Fru 0x0
13:32 < rxr> Sense flags: Blk -2147483609 (valid)
13:32 < rxr> cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s
13:32 < rxr> It simply notifies, that a track that is smaller than the minimum size
13:32 < rxr> has been expanded to 300 sectors.
13:47 < valentin> hm ?? my cdrecord allways aborts after this kind of output message
13:59 < valentin> f1 start
14:07 < SerWou> you mean : restart ;)
14:29 < CIA-9> rene * r9202 /trunk/source/ (TODO UpdateList.cc): * converted UpdateList from C glob to the C++ Glob helper
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14:46 < rxr> heyho mnemoc
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15:41 < valentin> damn, kimi out :(
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16:16 < keinek> hi
16:22 < rxr> hi keinek
16:34 < mipe> oooh,kimi fan
16:34 < mipe> yeah it was kind of sad to drop out from last lap
16:46 < rxr> yep
16:49 < mipe> gtk-2.0.m4 where should this file reside?
16:51 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/gtk+:gtk+: opt/gnome2/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4
16:51 < rxr> on my current system
16:52 < mipe> thats what i thought, interesting that my laptop(ark or something) has it in under /usr/share/aclocal/
16:53 < mipe> whats the best way to add new search path for aclocal,it looks like it doesnt find gtk-*.m4 file at this time, maybe add dirlist file /usr/share/aclocal and add /opt/gnome2/... path to there, then its taken automatically
16:54 < mipe> or to package build directory dirlist file
16:54 < rxr> mipe: most distributiosn do instal gtk and gnome into /usr
16:55 < mipe> yep
16:55 < rxr> I would also need to look into aclocal ...
16:59 < mipe> altought it should use ld.so.conf but the dir is there,hmm i wonder why this thing doesnt find it
17:01 < rxr> aclocla should use ld.so.conf to search for the .m4 files ?
17:02 < mipe> ups,nope, that was a diffrent search path
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17:32 < mipe> strange cpufreqd fails, m4 unknown command m4, when installing sysvinit files. but i do have m4
17:34 < rxr> valentin: would you like to have such a stream:
17:34 < rxr> pistream cat ("cat", (const char*[]){"/proc/cpuinfo", 0} );
17:34 < rxr> postream sed ("sed", (const char*[]){"s/World/C++/", 0} );
17:34 < rxr> cat >> std::cout.rdbuf();
17:34 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
17:34 < rxr> too bad my gcc-3.4. wants the ugly cast ...
17:34 < rxr> would you need any other ctor change ?
17:36 < valentin> would be nice
17:37 < rxr> any proposed API change before I commit it ?
17:37 < valentin> supporting a std::vector would be nice, too
17:37 < rxr> that is I drafted the abave the last minuts++ and it is mostly finished ...
17:37 < valentin> how did you implement it ?
17:38 < rxr> valentin: but you would need to convert it anyway for the C/kernel interface ... :-(
17:38 < rxr> custom streambuf derifed frlom std::streambuf does most of the job ...
17:38 < valentin> just commit the char** variant
17:38 < rxr> one could add std::string and std::vector constricutors ....
17:38 < valentin> which syscall do you use ? not system, i guess ....
17:38 < rxr> jsut that they would be inefficient ...
17:39 < rxr> fork and execvp
17:39 < rxr> and a pipe of course ..
17:39 < rxr> and wait ... later
17:41 < rxr> I mainly implemented it to remove the handcrufted code I just added to UpdateList yesterday or so ...
17:41 < rxr> t2-trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:384
17:49 < valentin> rxr: how do you pioe through such a thing ? cat >> sed.rdbuf(); ?
17:49 < rxr> valentin: what ?
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc: In constructor `processbuf::processbuf(const char*, const char**)':
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc:61: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc:62: error: cannot convert `const char* const*' to `const char*' for argument `1' to `void perror(const char*)'
17:50 < valentin> i just want to redirect cat through sed
17:50 < rxr> hm
17:50 < rxr> I would need to think about it
17:50 < rxr> of course you can use sed on a file directly ...
17:50 < rxr> but it should be possible to glue the stream together
17:51 < rxr> I could investigate later
17:51 < rxr> the above are the only remaining compile erros
17:51 < rxr> damn C const casts ...
17:52 < rxr> piostream.cc:61: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
17:52 < rxr> ^- only that one of course ..
17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r9203 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * fixed UpdaetList.cc to lose the pipe descriptors earlier ...
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18:06 < rxr> ouhm - I do not get this simple char array casted
18:07 < rxr> looks like compiler bug to me
18:07 < valentin> hm
18:07 < valentin> can you commit so i can try ?
18:07 < rxr> tried ever variant came to my mind and reread the C and C++ reference ...
18:07 < rxr> valentin: with what compiler ?
18:08 < valentin> 3.4.3
18:08 < rxr> have thta too
18:08 < rxr> g++ (GCC) 4.0.0
18:08 < rxr> tells the same
18:09 < valentin> think this is correct
18:09 < valentin> what is your constructors signature ? cont char* const char** ?
18:09 < rxr> const char* argv[]
18:09 < valentin> execvp is is char const* []
18:09 < valentin> this is a difference
18:10 < rxr> I tried variants including that
18:10 < rxr> the error is always the same - and misleading anyway
18:10 < valentin> in the signature ?
18:10 < rxr> of course in the singature
18:11 < rxr> hm - now it workx
18:11 < rxr> s
18:11 < rxr> strange
18:11 < rxr> maybe mistyped the write keybinding in vi or whatever
18:12 < rxr> ah - no
18:12 < rxr> I had cont char* const*
18:12 < rxr> but isn't the compiler mixing s.th. up ther?
18:12 < rxr> there ...
18:13 < rxr> I think the const declaration is the reverse in C and C++ ...
18:13 < rxr> C: const char* -> pointer to a constant memory
18:13 < rxr> C++: const char* -> constant pointer
18:13 < rxr> no ?
18:15 < rxr> ah no - all fine
18:16 < rxr> too hot
18:17 < valentin> but a bit cooler than yesterday
18:17 < rxr> hm - am I mad ...
18:17 < rxr> now I changed another bit and it happens again:
18:17 < valentin> yes ^^
18:17 < rxr> processbuf (const char* file, char* const* argv)
18:17 < rxr> execvp(file, file, argv);
18:18 < rxr> piostream.cc:63: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
18:19 < rxr> piostream.cc: In constructor `processbuf::processbuf(const char*, char* const*)':
18:20 < rxr> valentin: ?
18:22 < valentin> which argument do you pass ? the second one ?
18:22 < valentin> are you sure ?
18:23 < rxr> oh - fuck
18:23 < rxr> thanks for the pointer
18:23 < valentin> i think you should take a little rest :)
18:29 < valentin> does it work now ?
18:32 < rxr> ok - the reading works now ,-)
18:36 < rxr> ouhm - I need some time changes I think
18:36 < rxr> the sed is not working since I always bind stdin and stdout to the pipe ...
18:37 < rxr> but I think what one expected and what I drafted myself is, that using postream ... as I do in the example to only bind the output to the input of the forked process ..
18:38 < rxr> that is the stdout of that goes to the terminal - and not into the nirvana ..
18:43 < valentin> sorry, i cannot follow you :(
18:51 < rxr> hm
18:55 < rxr> hm - sed buffer too much - a close hack is needed for that to work :-(
18:56 < rxr> hm - I go washing and such my bike ... cu later
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18:57 < rxr> valentin: I added the wip code to the usual utility place ...
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19:02 < valentin> ok, cu
19:02 < valentin> *lunch*
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20:15 < rxr> so - bike cleaned ...
20:15 < valentin> finished lunch
20:24 < rxr> ouhm
20:25 < rxr> hunt of red october has analog shados in the digial mpeg2 broadcast ...
20:27 < valentin> i guess there exists no digital master
20:27 < rxr> but shadows ?
20:28 < rxr> but the quality is of course way better than my aging analog tv dump from years ago ..
20:28 < rxr> should have dumped the new one ..
20:38 < valentin> rxr: remember this one : http://www.handykey.com/ ?
20:41 < rxr> yes, why ?
20:42 < valentin> nothing special, just found it by chance..
20:47 < rxr> alsa 1.0.9 - valentin do you update ?
20:48 < rxr> valentin: and could you package this if it looks useful: http://freshmeat.net/projects/stress/
20:48 < rxr> thanks ,-)
20:56 < valentin> a dos tool ? ,)
21:02 < valentin> i try to package, but in case it needs very very ugly fixes, i skip it
21:07 < valentin> rxr: we do not have reprositorys like system/admin/utility
21:07 < valentin> where to sort the package ?
21:26 < valentin> and category ?
21:34 < ojh> Hi, anyone have any thoughts on the graphic/branding look after the request for artwork was made on the ML?
21:34 < valentin> sepp played a bit iirc
21:35 < valentin> you want to be creative ?
21:37 < ojh> I am working up something InInkscape. A 'zen' type illustration of a leaf floating on water with subtle ripples. But I think some sort of flower may be more interesting. Any feedback on the style that best fits the T2 project?
21:41 < valentin> i do not care as long as i like the artwork :) however, some ppl here want something that expresses sth about t2
21:44 < ojh> I'm trying to envision a visual that captures the essence of the project . . . . so I'm trying to capture a clean, simple and elegant look. Something very natural that 'just fits' with what it is meant to accomplish.
21:49 < valentin> if you have fun, just go for it. Maybe some will like it and use it as background.
21:52 < ojh> I just sent a small version of it to the ML, let me know what you think of it.
21:57 < rxr> re
21:57 < rxr> ouhm
21:57 < rxr> windows problem was due to usb 2.0 car
21:57 < rxr> d
21:57 < valentin> rxr: cat/repro ?
21:57 < rxr> my old 1.0 is working ..
21:57 < rxr> ?
22:00 < valentin> category / repository ?
22:00 < valentin> for stress
22:00 < CIA-9> valentin * r9204 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * added missing checksum for asymptote
22:10 < valentin> rxr: ping
22:18 < valentin> damn, since they installed new mailfilters today (those seem to be as ineffective as the old ones) our mail lags even more
22:26 < valentin> oh - france voted against the constitution
22:29 < valentin> rxr: i'll say base/tool like bonnie++ now...
22:33 < CIA-9> valentin * r9205 /trunk/package/base/stress/ (. stress.desc): added package stress (0.18.4)
22:43 < SerWou> yes valentin
22:43 < SerWou> i'm french
22:43 < SerWou> how you see that from your side ?
23:01 < valentin> well, i do not like the constitution very much. though i think most of the voters had little idea what they voted for/against. at least you had the chance to vote
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23:02 < valentin> did you vote ?
23:03 < SerWou> yes, of course
23:03 < valentin> ojh: nice picture, but i would use more matt colors
23:05 < valentin> SerWou: here in germany the media interprets the "non" as a payback for chirac's politic
23:14 < SerWou> a part : yes
23:14 < SerWou> sorry
23:14 < SerWou> gtg
23:19 < rxr> re
23:21 < valentin> hi rxr
23:21 < rxr> valentin: feel free to create benchmark / admin / whatever ...
23:21 < valentin> gtg ?
23:21 < rxr> so /me at susan and in bed now - cu
23:21 < valentin> gn8 rxr
23:22 < ojh> valentin: Thanks for the feedback, it is defiantly a work in progress . . . .
23:22 < ojh> I gotta go now, Latter all! :)
23:22 < valentin> ojh: keep on :)
23:22 < valentin> going on even
23:22 < valentin> cu
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00:00 < valentin> quite good, as far as i know
00:00 < valentin> they are a real family now :)
00:00 < mnemoc_> hehe :)
00:00 < valentin> CIA ?
00:01 < mnemoc_> died 10 minutes ago :(
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00:21 < CIA-9> amery * r9177 /trunk/package/perl/perl-xml-parser/perl-xml-parser.desc: * merged 9169 from 2.1: repriorized perl-xml-parser before shared-mime-info (120.000)
00:25 < CIA-9> amery * r9178 /trunk/package/develop/guile/guile.desc: * merged 9168 from 2.1: marked guile as NOPARALLEL
00:26 < SerWou> eris : i can see you little boy ;)
00:27 < mnemoc_> eris is not here
00:30 < SerWou> perfect
00:30 < SerWou> ;)
00:30 < SerWou> i know he will read this log
00:31 < valentin> who is eris - i thought she was this crazy godess
00:33 < SerWou> mnemoc_ knows him
00:34 < valentin> afaik eris is female
00:34 < valentin> she threw the golden apple
00:34 < mnemoc_> SerWou: me?
00:35 < mnemoc_> valentin: yes
00:35 < SerWou> no you don't
00:35 < SerWou> ok
00:35 < SerWou> don't worry ;)
00:36 < mnemoc_> o_O
00:36 < SerWou> ;)
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01:19 < CIA-9> amery * r9179 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/sawfish/sawfish.desc: * marked sawfish as NOPARALLEL
01:31 < CIA-9> amery * r9180 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:31 < CIA-9> * updated libbonobomm (1.3.8 -> 2005-05-25)
01:31 < CIA-9> * updated libbonobouimm (1.3.7 -> 2005-05-25)
01:40 < CIA-9> amery * r9181 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.8 -> 0.10)
01:53 < valentin> gn8
01:54 < mnemoc_> gn8 valentin
02:13 < keinek> hola
02:13 < keinek> hi
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06:39 < mnemoc_> keinek: hi
06:40 < mnemoc_> 1670 builds total, 1173 completed fine, 7 with errors.
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08:38 < keinek> jo
08:38 < keinek> hi
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09:21 < rxr_> re
09:22 < mipe> morning rxr
09:23 < rxr_> hi mipe
09:23 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:29 < rxr> The GNU Hurd K9
10:17 < rxr> re
10:35 < CIA-9> rene * r9182 /trunk/package/gnome2/alleyoop/alleyoop.desc: * updated alleyoop (0.8.3 -> 0.9.0)
10:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9183 /trunk/package/cad/pcb/pcb.desc: * updated pcb (20050127 -> 20050315)
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9184 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/mdadm.desc: * updated mdadm (1.10.0 -> 1.11.0)
10:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9185 /trunk/source/TODO: * added a TODO to source/
10:48 < CIA-9> rene * r9186 /trunk/package/base/rfc/ (rfc.cache rfc.conf rfc.desc): * updated rfc and replaced hardcoded filenames with match_source_file
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r9187 /trunk/package/mail/exim/ (exim.conf exim.desc): * updated exim (4.44 -> 4.50)
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r9189 /trunk/package/mail/pine/pine.desc: * updated pine (4.62 -> 4.63)
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r9188 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.01 -> 2.02)
11:10 < valentin> moin
11:10 < rxr> hey valentin
11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r9191 /trunk/package/base/cpufreqd/cpufreqd.desc: * updated cpufreqd (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
11:11 < valentin> *yawn*
11:12 < rxr> the update tracker is cool - now if it would be extended to patch, tesstbuild and send status + patch it would be even cooler
11:12 < rxr> hey! - a web interface where you only need to hit apply reject ! ... ,-)
11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r9190 /trunk/package/www/links/links.desc: * updated links (2.1pre16 -> 2.1pre17)
11:12 < valentin> and we call it supermaster ,)
11:13 < rxr> yep
11:15 < rxr> or automator ,-)
11:18 < valentin> or upmaster
11:22 < CIA-9> rene * r9192 /trunk/package/base/howtos/ (howtos.conf howtos.desc):
11:22 < CIA-9> * updated howtos (20050529) - version the download and use
11:22 < CIA-9> match_source_file - no mini HOWTOs anymore and some old seem to be
11:22 < CIA-9> removed
11:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9193 /trunk/package/base/hddtemp/hddtemp.desc: * updated hddtemp (0.3-beta12 -> 0.3-beta13)
11:28 < CIA-9> rene * r9194 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.50 -> 4.51)
11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r9195 /trunk/package/base/psmisc/ (install.patch no-termcap.patch psmisc.desc): * updated psmisc (21.5 -> 21.6)
11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r9196 /trunk/package/base/m4/m4.desc: * updated m4 (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r9197 /trunk/package/mail/anomy-mailtools/anomy-mailtools.desc: * updated anomy-mailtools (1.70 -> 1.71)
11:50 < CIA-9> rene * r9198 /trunk/package/mail/mailscanner/ (mailscanner.conf mailscanner.desc): * updated mailscanner (4.31.2-1 -> 4.42.5-1)
11:56 < mipe> re
11:56 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2/livecd/regressions.html
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r9199 /trunk/scripts/Download:
11:57 < CIA-9> * implemented .Z recompression, since the bz2filename funciton already
11:57 < CIA-9> translates .Z to bz2 and dcc failed due to the bz2 not present ...
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r9200 /trunk/package/mail/dcc/dcc.desc: * updated dcc (1.2.69 -> 1.3.5)
12:00 < mipe> does anyone else have trunk ref regression reports? i'd like to see if i have the same package build errors as x86...
12:01 < rxr> mipe: I think jeru started
12:01 < CIA-9> rene * r9201 /trunk/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * updated bogofilter (0.94.6 -> 0.94.7)
12:02 < rxr> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/trunkref/regressions.html
12:03 < rxr> hm - not that advanced
12:03 < rxr> guess his box froze again or so ...
12:03 < valentin> oh
12:04 < rxr> valentin: ?
12:04 < valentin> 12:03 < rxr> guess his box froze again or so ...
12:05 < rxr> ok - most updates processed ...
12:05 < rxr> all tested of course ...
12:10 < rxr> how good is clamav ?
12:12 < valentin> no idea
12:12 < valentin> i think it is not so recent like the commercial scanners
12:12 < mipe> AM_PATH_GTK_2_0(2.0.0, CFLAGS="$CFLAGS $GTK_CFLAGS"
12:12 < mipe> can someone spot an error on that line?
12:13 < valentin> it is incomplete
12:13 < valentin> at least a ')' is missing
12:13 < valentin> but it could be continued in the line below
12:13 < mipe> yes but the error comes from 2.0.0 spot
12:14 < valentin> message ?
12:14 < mipe> ./configure: line 5926: syntax error near unexpected token `2.0.0,'
12:14 < mipe> ./configure: line 5926: ` AM_PATH_GTK_2_0(2.0.0, CFLAGS="$CFLAGS
12:14 < mipe> $GTK_CFLAGS"'
12:14 < valentin> ouhm
12:15 < valentin> ah
12:15 < mipe> i guess aclocal cant find gtk*.m4 file
12:15 < valentin> it is configure ?
12:15 < mipe> ?
12:15 < mipe> yep
12:15 < valentin> in configure there should be no AM_* macros at all
12:15 < valentin> yep, seems some macro definitions where missing when creating config
12:17 < mipe> hmm,where do i set aclocal search paths?
12:18 < mipe> ie the file gtk*.m4 is in right place(opt/gnome2/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4), but for somereason it doesnt find it
12:19 < valentin> dunno - maybe in environment vars ?
12:39 < rxr> hm - somehow this crappy cdrecord ruined my shiny new cd-rw ...
12:39 < rxr> yesterday it misburned it - and today it can not blank=disc
12:50 < valentin> oh
13:32 < rxr> cdrecord man-page:
13:32 < rxr> The following message is not an error:
13:32 < rxr> Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 2048/2048 (1 sectors).
13:32 < rxr> cdrecord: I/O error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error
13:32 < rxr> CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
13:32 < rxr> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
13:32 < rxr> Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 80 00 00 27 0A 00 00 00 00 B5 00 00 00 00 00
13:32 < rxr> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
13:32 < rxr> Sense Code: 0xB5 Qual 0x00 (dummy data blocks added) Fru 0x0
13:32 < rxr> Sense flags: Blk -2147483609 (valid)
13:32 < rxr> cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s
13:32 < rxr> It simply notifies, that a track that is smaller than the minimum size
13:32 < rxr> has been expanded to 300 sectors.
13:47 < valentin> hm ?? my cdrecord allways aborts after this kind of output message
13:59 < valentin> f1 start
14:07 < SerWou> you mean : restart ;)
14:29 < CIA-9> rene * r9202 /trunk/source/ (TODO UpdateList.cc): * converted UpdateList from C glob to the C++ Glob helper
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14:46 < rxr> heyho mnemoc
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15:41 < valentin> damn, kimi out :(
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16:16 < keinek> hi
16:22 < rxr> hi keinek
16:34 < mipe> oooh,kimi fan
16:34 < mipe> yeah it was kind of sad to drop out from last lap
16:46 < rxr> yep
16:49 < mipe> gtk-2.0.m4 where should this file reside?
16:51 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/gtk+:gtk+: opt/gnome2/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4
16:51 < rxr> on my current system
16:52 < mipe> thats what i thought, interesting that my laptop(ark or something) has it in under /usr/share/aclocal/
16:53 < mipe> whats the best way to add new search path for aclocal,it looks like it doesnt find gtk-*.m4 file at this time, maybe add dirlist file /usr/share/aclocal and add /opt/gnome2/... path to there, then its taken automatically
16:54 < mipe> or to package build directory dirlist file
16:54 < rxr> mipe: most distributiosn do instal gtk and gnome into /usr
16:55 < mipe> yep
16:55 < rxr> I would also need to look into aclocal ...
16:59 < mipe> altought it should use ld.so.conf but the dir is there,hmm i wonder why this thing doesnt find it
17:01 < rxr> aclocla should use ld.so.conf to search for the .m4 files ?
17:02 < mipe> ups,nope, that was a diffrent search path
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17:32 < mipe> strange cpufreqd fails, m4 unknown command m4, when installing sysvinit files. but i do have m4
17:34 < rxr> valentin: would you like to have such a stream:
17:34 < rxr> pistream cat ("cat", (const char*[]){"/proc/cpuinfo", 0} );
17:34 < rxr> postream sed ("sed", (const char*[]){"s/World/C++/", 0} );
17:34 < rxr> cat >> std::cout.rdbuf();
17:34 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
17:34 < rxr> too bad my gcc-3.4. wants the ugly cast ...
17:34 < rxr> would you need any other ctor change ?
17:36 < valentin> would be nice
17:37 < rxr> any proposed API change before I commit it ?
17:37 < valentin> supporting a std::vector
17:37 < rxr> that is I drafted the abave the last minuts++ and it is mostly finished ...
17:37 < valentin> how did you implement it ?
17:38 < rxr> valentin: but you would need to convert it anyway for the C/kernel interface ... :-(
17:38 < rxr> custom streambuf derifed frlom std::streambuf does most of the job ...
17:38 < valentin> just commit the char** variant
17:38 < rxr> one could add std::string and std::vector constricutors ....
17:38 < valentin> which syscall do you use ? not system, i guess ....
17:38 < rxr> jsut that they would be inefficient ...
17:39 < rxr> fork and execvp
17:39 < rxr> and a pipe of course ..
17:39 < rxr> and wait ... later
17:41 < rxr> I mainly implemented it to remove the handcrufted code I just added to UpdateList yesterday or so ...
17:41 < rxr> t2-trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:384
17:49 < valentin> rxr: how do you pioe through such a thing ? cat >> sed.rdbuf(); ?
17:49 < rxr> valentin: what ?
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc: In constructor `processbuf::processbuf(const char*, const char**)':
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc:61: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
17:50 < rxr> piostream.cc:62: error: cannot convert `const char* const*' to `const char*' for argument `1' to `void perror(const char*)'
17:50 < valentin> i just want to redirect cat through sed
17:50 < rxr> hm
17:50 < rxr> I would need to think about it
17:50 < rxr> of course you can use sed on a file directly ...
17:50 < rxr> but it should be possible to glue the stream together
17:51 < rxr> I could investigate later
17:51 < rxr> the above are the only remaining compile erros
17:51 < rxr> damn C const casts ...
17:52 < rxr> piostream.cc:61: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
17:52 < rxr> ^- only that one of course ..
17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r9203 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * fixed UpdaetList.cc to lose the pipe descriptors earlier ...
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18:06 < rxr> ouhm - I do not get this simple char array casted
18:07 < rxr> looks like compiler bug to me
18:07 < valentin> hm
18:07 < valentin> can you commit so i can try ?
18:07 < rxr> tried ever variant came to my mind and reread the C and C++ reference ...
18:07 < rxr> valentin: with what compiler ?
18:08 < valentin> 3.4.3
18:08 < rxr> have thta too
18:08 < rxr> g++ (GCC) 4.0.0
18:08 < rxr> tells the same
18:09 < valentin> think this is correct
18:09 < valentin> what is your constructors signature ? cont char* const char** ?
18:09 < rxr> const char* argv[]
18:09 < valentin> execvp is is char const* []
18:09 < valentin> this is a difference
18:10 < rxr> I tried variants including that
18:10 < rxr> the error is always the same - and misleading anyway
18:10 < valentin> in the signature ?
18:10 < rxr> of course in the singature
18:11 < rxr> hm - now it workx
18:11 < rxr> s
18:11 < rxr> strange
18:11 < rxr> maybe mistyped the write keybinding in vi or whatever
18:12 < rxr> ah - no
18:12 < rxr> I had cont char* const*
18:12 < rxr> but isn't the compiler mixing s.th. up ther?
18:12 < rxr> there ...
18:13 < rxr> I think the const declaration is the reverse in C and C++ ...
18:13 < rxr> C: const char* -> pointer to a constant memory
18:13 < rxr> C++: const char* -> constant pointer
18:13 < rxr> no ?
18:15 < rxr> ah no - all fine
18:16 < rxr> too hot
18:17 < valentin> but a bit cooler than yesterday
18:17 < rxr> hm - am I mad ...
18:17 < rxr> now I changed another bit and it happens again:
18:17 < valentin> yes ^^
18:17 < rxr> processbuf (const char* file, char* const* argv)
18:17 < rxr> execvp(file, file, argv);
18:18 < rxr> piostream.cc:63: error: cannot convert `const char*' to `char* const*' for argument `2' to `int execvp(const char*, char* const*)'
18:19 < rxr> piostream.cc: In constructor `processbuf::processbuf(const char*, char* const*)':
18:20 < rxr> valentin: ?
18:22 < valentin> which argument do you pass ? the second one ?
18:22 < valentin> are you sure ?
18:23 < rxr> oh - fuck
18:23 < rxr> thanks for the pointer
18:23 < valentin> i think you should take a little rest :)
18:29 < valentin> does it work now ?
18:32 < rxr> ok - the reading works now ,-)
18:36 < rxr> ouhm - I need some time changes I think
18:36 < rxr> the sed is not working since I always bind stdin and stdout to the pipe ...
18:37 < rxr> but I think what one expected and what I drafted myself is, that using postream ... as I do in the example to only bind the output to the input of the forked process ..
18:38 < rxr> that is the stdout of that goes to the terminal - and not into the nirvana ..
18:43 < valentin> sorry, i cannot follow you :(
18:51 < rxr> hm
18:55 < rxr> hm - sed buffer too much - a close hack is needed for that to work :-(
18:56 < rxr> hm - I go washing and such my bike ... cu later
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18:57 < rxr> valentin: I added the wip code to the usual utility place ...
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19:02 < valentin> ok, cu
19:02 < valentin> *lunch*
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20:15 < rxr> so - bike cleaned ...
20:15 < valentin> finished lunch
20:24 < rxr> ouhm
20:25 < rxr> hunt of red october has analog shados in the digial mpeg2 broadcast ...
20:27 < valentin> i guess there exists no digital master
20:27 < rxr> but shadows ?
20:28 < rxr> but the quality is of course way better than my aging analog tv dump from years ago ..
20:28 < rxr> should have dumped the new one ..
20:38 < valentin> rxr: remember this one : http://www.handykey.com/ ?
20:41 < rxr> yes, why ?
20:42 < valentin> nothing special, just found it by chance..
20:47 < rxr> alsa 1.0.9 - valentin do you update ?
20:48 < rxr> valentin: and could you package this if it looks useful: http://freshmeat.net/projects/stress/
20:48 < rxr> thanks ,-)
20:56 < valentin> a dos tool ? ,)
21:02 < valentin> i try to package, but in case it needs very very ugly fixes, i skip it
21:07 < valentin> rxr: we do not have reprositorys like system/admin/utility
21:07 < valentin> where to sort the package ?
21:26 < valentin> and category ?
21:34 < ojh> Hi, anyone have any thoughts on the graphic/branding look after the request for artwork was made on the ML?
21:34 < valentin> sepp played a bit iirc
21:35 < valentin> you want to be creative ?
21:37 < ojh> I am working up something InInkscape. A 'zen' type illustration of a leaf floating on water with subtle ripples. But I think some sort of flower may be more interesting. Any feedback on the style that best fits the T2 project?
21:41 < valentin> i do not care as long as i like the artwork :) however, some ppl here want something that expresses sth about t2
21:44 < ojh> I'm trying to envision a visual that captures the essence of the project . . . . so I'm trying to capture a clean, simple and elegant look. Something very natural that 'just fits' with what it is meant to accomplish.
21:49 < valentin> if you have fun, just go for it. Maybe some will like it and use it as background.
21:52 < ojh> I just sent a small version of it to the ML, let me know what you think of it.
21:57 < rxr> re
21:57 < rxr> ouhm
21:57 < rxr> windows problem was due to usb 2.0 car
21:57 < rxr> d
21:57 < valentin> rxr: cat/repro ?
21:57 < rxr> my old 1.0 is working ..
21:57 < rxr> ?
22:00 < valentin> category / repository ?
22:00 < valentin> for stress
22:00 < CIA-9> valentin * r9204 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * added missing checksum for asymptote
22:10 < valentin> rxr: ping
22:18 < valentin> damn, since they installed new mailfilters today (those seem to be as ineffective as the old ones) our mail lags even more
22:26 < valentin> oh - france voted against the constitution
22:29 < valentin> rxr: i'll say base/tool like bonnie++ now...
22:33 < CIA-9> valentin * r9205 /trunk/package/base/stress/ (. stress.desc): added package stress (0.18.4)
22:43 < SerWou> yes valentin
22:43 < SerWou> i'm french
22:43 < SerWou> how you see that from your side ?
23:01 < valentin> well, i do not like the constitution very much. though i think most of the voters had little idea what they voted for/against. at least you had the chance to vote
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23:02 < valentin> did you vote ?
23:03 < SerWou> yes, of course
23:03 < valentin> ojh: nice picture, but i would use more matt colors
23:05 < valentin> SerWou: here in germany the media interprets the "non" as a payback for chirac's politic
23:14 < SerWou> a part : yes
23:14 < SerWou> sorry
23:14 < SerWou> gtg
23:19 < rxr> re
23:21 < valentin> hi rxr
23:21 < rxr> valentin: feel free to create benchmark / admin / whatever ...
23:21 < valentin> gtg ?
23:21 < rxr> so /me at susan and in bed now - cu
23:21 < valentin> gn8 rxr
23:22 < ojh> valentin: Thanks for the feedback, it is defiantly a work in progress . . . .
23:22 < ojh> I gotta go now, Latter all! :)
23:22 < valentin> ojh: keep on :)
23:22 < valentin> going on even
23:22 < valentin> cu
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