T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-30
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--- Log opened Mon May 30 00:00:55 2005
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02:54 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
02:54 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
02:54 [Users #t2]
02:54 [ _Lewellyn] [ dualopteron] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
02:54 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
02:54 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly[u5]]
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08:35 < SerWou> hello
08:42 < mnemoc> hi SerWou
08:46 < SerWou> how are mnemoc ?
08:49 < mnemoc> sleepy :) and you?
09:05 < SerWou> yeah
09:05 < SerWou> fucking weather today
09:05 < SerWou> rainning
09:09 < mnemoc> also here
09:22 < CIA-9> amery * r9206 /branches/2.1/package/e17/ecore/ecore.desc: * updated ecore (2005-03-29 -> 2005-03-30), just one day to let e-utils build
09:25 < SerWou> CIA-9 is a bot or what ? ;)
09:26 < mnemoc> http://cia.navi.cx
09:39 < SerWou> ho
09:39 < SerWou> yes it is
09:49 < rxr_> re
09:49 < rxr_> hey mnemoc !
09:51 < mnemoc> hi rxr_
09:51 < mnemoc> rxr_: http://directory.fsf.org/
09:53 < jsaw> re
09:54 < rxr_> h
09:54 < rxr_> hi jsaw
09:54 < jsaw> hi rxr
09:54 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
09:54 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
09:54 < rxr_> mnemoc: what about this directory ?
09:55 < mnemoc> rxr_: we are not listed ;)
09:55 < jsaw> besides that two kde components died "unexpectedly", the live iso looks good!
09:56 < rxr_> jsaw: ,-)
09:57 < rxr_> mnemoc: do you notify them ?
09:57 < mnemoc> rxr_: it's a large form, and i'm falling sleep
09:58 < rxr_> should I ?
09:58 < mnemoc> please :)
09:58 < jsaw> rxr: would it be possible to detect an existing swap partition automatically?
09:59 < rxr_> jsaw: yes it would
10:02 < rxr_> mnemoc: I think it makes sense to change my pkg update iterating loop to not iterate over the repositories and choose every seventh
10:02 < rxr_> but to iterate over all packages and choose every seventh, no?
10:02 < mnemoc> yes
10:02 < rxr_> to archive a more equal distribution over the week ...
10:02 < mnemoc> :)
10:03 < rxr_> so - both of my sparc now have a add-on usb 2.0 card
10:03 < rxr_> my first one had a 1.0 card - but lukily due to this windows 2000 even with SP4 not working with the 2.0 card of my neighbor, it has a 2.0 card now, too ,-)
10:04 < rxr_> not that there would be much more than a mouse on that card, but ,-)
10:06 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:07 < rxr> Spielberg & Lucas Approve Indy 4 Script
10:11 < rxr> No Hyper Threading Vulnerability in Linux Kernel
10:18 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep... just 1:30, but i need it
10:18 < mnemoc> cu
10:18 < jsaw> cu mnemoc
10:19 < rxr> cu mnemoc
10:20 < mnemoc> thx, bye
10:29 < valentin> moin
10:29 < rxr> hey valentin
10:30 < valentin> quite a thunderstorm this morning
10:31 < rxr> thunder ?
10:31 < rxr> only wind here - no thunder ...
10:31 < valentin> yep
10:31 < rxr> ouh
10:31 < rxr> at what time ?
10:31 < valentin> around 5:00
10:31 < rxr> ah - ok - I was asleep at that time ...
10:32 < rxr> valentin: I now have not only usb 2.0 in my U30 - but also in my U5 - thanks to win2k not beeing able to load driver for devices on a usb 2.0 card ...
10:32 < rxr> the usb 1.0 card from my U5 works ...
10:32 < valentin> hm
10:32 < rxr> thanks bill for all the hardware one gets due to windows users ...
10:32 < rxr> "too slow" whole boxes, single, not working hardware, ...
10:33 < rxr> just cool *g*
10:34 < rxr> I know have additional 128MB of RAM from the uni sparc in my U5 - let's see if this is stable ...
10:34 < valentin> not to mention our t2 server
10:34 < rxr> yep - or the gsmp server ...
10:34 < valentin> to instable and too slow :)
10:34 < valentin> too bad my brother bought a really bad box this time...
10:35 < rxr> or the 1.3Ghz athlon my farther got ...
10:35 < rxr> valentin: that is the next update will only get you a really low-budged box ?
10:35 < rxr> like what? aldi or otto ?
10:39 < valentin> not sure, but some cheap cr*p
10:42 < rxr> is he happy with it ?
10:42 < valentin> he can play his games...
10:43 < valentin> he is allways happy with his cheap hardware and periphery stuff
10:44 < rxr> Mathomatic 12.4.0
10:44 < rxr> tough still not too advanced, should I revert the removal of the package and update it ?
10:44 < rxr> on the other hand it is too unadvanced to be useful for normal stuff anyway
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9207 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/ (mine.desc new_dialog_version.patch): * updated mine (0.20 -> 0.21)
10:47 < valentin> i never used Mathomatic
10:48 < rxr> you read the desc and commented "unusable"
10:49 < valentin> ah - this hobby project thing
10:49 < valentin> rxr, does this sound familiar: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050530
10:56 < rxr> ... ,-)
10:57 < valentin> shower and breakfast and stuff ... bbl
11:29 < CIA-9> rene * r9208 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/ (4 files): * updated powerpc-utils (1.1.3-7 -> 1.1.3-15)
11:43 < CIA-9> chris * r9209 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc8)
11:44 < CIA-9> chris * r9210 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc4 -> 0.9.0-rc5)
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11:55 < rxr> hi madtux
11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r9211 /trunk/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/ (4 files): * updated mac-fdisk (0.1-10 -> 0.1-12)
11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r9212 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/powerpc-utils.conf: * set prefix to "" instead of "/" in powerpc-utils
11:59 < madtux> hello rene
12:04 < rxr> miguel, how are you ?
12:05 < CIA-9> rene * r9213 /trunk/package/powerpc/linux24benh/: * removed linux24benh - reached end of life in the t2 2.2 tree
12:08 < madtux> see i like it better when call me miguel... i don't feel like such a stranger here
12:08 < madtux> ;)
12:08 < madtux> i am good and u my friend?
12:11 < rxr> oh - /me too
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r9214 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * merge olist, so they do not accumulate
12:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9215 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/ (dpkg.desc no-ssd_md5sum.patch): * updated dpkg (1.10.27 -> 1.13.4)
12:31 < rxr> miguel, have you read, that we now have a update concentrator? mailing possible updates to t2-updates@exactcode.de
12:38 < madtux> hadn't read it
12:38 < madtux> but i guess now i know
12:38 < madtux> :)
12:41 < CIA-9> rene * r9216 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.4 -> 0.6.7)
12:41 < CIA-9> rene * r9217 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/doxygen.desc: * updated doxygen (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
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12:42 < jeru> hi
12:42 < rxr> hey jsaw
12:42 < rxr> hey jeru, even
12:42 < jeru> hi rxr
12:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9218 /trunk/package/archiver/tnef/tnef.desc: * updated tnef (1.3.2 -> 1.3.3)
12:45 < rxr> ^- the t2 concentrator - and how t2 expanded to be the most up-to-date OS available ...
12:46 < madtux> :)
12:47 < rxr> madtux: nighly prposed updates at 4 o'clock - subsribe and enjoy ,-)
12:50 < CIA-9> rene * r9219 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiser4progs/reiser4progs.desc: * updated reiser4progs (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
12:51 < CIA-9> rene * r9220 /trunk/package/archiver/lzo/lzo.desc: * updated lzo (1.08 -> 2.00)
12:51 < rxr> jeru: that have been my morning updates - feel free to take over ,-)
12:53 < jeru> rxr: thank you :)
12:56 < jeru> rxr: I've to build a prototype for a security box. I want to use the embedded target as starting point. Btw, why you didn't used busybox?
12:56 < rxr> because I avoid ugly packages
12:57 < rxr> you can of course source the embedded target and define to use busybox ...
12:57 < madtux> *g*
12:57 < jeru> rxr: ok ;)
12:59 < CIA-9> rene * r9221 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.2.19 -> 1.2.20)
13:04 < rxr> jeru: I also update valgrind ...
13:08 < jeru> rxr: ok ... atm, I'm a bit busy anyway ... so I'll starting update session later
13:08 < CIA-9> rene * r9222 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * updated valgrind (2.2.0 -> 2.4.0)
13:09 < CIA-9> rene * r9223 /trunk/package/textproc/libxslt/libxslt.desc: * updated libxslt (1.1.12 -> 1.1.14)
13:11 < jeru> rxr: btw, should I stop the ref build for trunk ... and do a resync? it's in stage 1 building findutils right now
13:11 < rxr> just svn up and letting it go would be ok, no ?
13:12 < jeru> rxr: let's see ;)
13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r9224 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.conf:
13:23 < CIA-9> * simplified valgrind srctar overwrite and fixed it for the new
13:23 < CIA-9> ppc filename
13:26 < jeru> rxr: updating hdf5 + pytables
13:30 < rxr> valentin: the new ppc valgrind works way better now ,-)!
13:30 < jeru> rxr:
13:30 < jeru> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
13:30 < rxr> yes, known
13:30 < rxr> where do you see this ?
13:30 < jeru> should I patch ?
13:30 < jeru> hdf5
13:31 < rxr> yes - patch it to use the POSIX syntax ,-)
13:31 < jeru> ok
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13:36 < CIA-9> rene * r9225 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.conf: * fixed valgrind-ppc to build
13:38 < jeru> rxr: texinfo still fails in stage 1
13:38 < jeru> Found loop in install_wrapper: /t2/trunk/build/trunkref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium4-reference/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/wrapper/mv ./confstatcY3210/out /t2/trunk/src.texinfo.1117463159.25702.0/texinfo-4.8/tools/./confstatcY3210/in
13:38 < jeru> ^ any ideas ?
13:39 < rxr> hm
13:39 < rxr> would need to have a shell in the build and debug it, too
13:39 < rxr> I could alter on ...
13:51 < valentin> re
13:52 < rxr> hi valentin
13:57 < jeru> rxr: is this an known problem in libowfat using uclibc ?
13:57 < jeru> 586-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -c socket/socket_ip4loopback.c -pipe -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -I.
13:57 < jeru> i586-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -c socket/socket_listen.c -pipe -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -I.
13:57 < jeru> In file included from socket/socket_connected.c:7:
13:57 < jeru> ./havesl.h:1: error: conflicting types for 'socklen_t'
13:58 < valentin> rxr: what does "works better" mean ?
13:58 < rxr> hm - no idea if I ever used libowfat with uclibc ...
13:58 < jeru> rxr: at least it's enabled on the embedded target ...
13:58 < rxr> valentin: formerly I only could run trivial binaries with valgrind on PPC - more complex ondes yield some "unrecognized instruction" or so early on
13:59 < rxr> the new one was able to execute bash, ls, ... without a problem ...
13:59 < jeru> so I guess you've used it some tie ago
13:59 < rxr> I think even bash failed with the previous ppc snapshot
13:59 < jeru> hi valentin
13:59 < rxr> jeru: then it might be a new regression
13:59 < valentin> hi jeru
14:02 < rxr> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:02 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
14:02 < rxr> sed.close_sink();
14:02 < rxr> sed.clear();
14:02 < rxr> sed >> std::cout.rdbuf();
14:02 < rxr> =>
14:02 < rxr> Hello C++!
14:02 < rxr> ,-)
14:04 < valentin> rxr: how about
14:04 < valentin> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:04 < valentin> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:04 < valentin> damn
14:05 < valentin> ok i do not try to type in here
14:05 < valentin> can you direct sed output into a rdbuf of another pstream ?
14:05 < rxr> yes - that should work fine
14:05 < valentin> nice
14:06 < rxr> I leave it as excersice for you when I commit the final version in some minutes
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14:11 < valentin> why do you need to call clear() on the pstream ?
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14:14 < rxr> I think I'll introduce some eof manipulator or so ...
14:14 < rxr> soe the close_sink can be expressed as:
14:14 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl << eof;
14:15 < rxr> valentin: somehow the stream gets into soe eof or bad state
14:15 < rxr> I have still have to analyze why this is the case
14:16 < valentin> hm
14:16 < valentin> btw: you allways have to stream all the content into mem before draining the stream ?
14:18 < rxr> nope
14:18 < rxr> but sed does buffer to much - and the read will hand since sed is waiting for more input ...
14:19 < rxr> valentin: the clear is only needed when I use std::cout before - and thus it gets into eof ...
14:20 < rxr> hm - strange
14:20 < rxr> ah ...
14:20 < rxr> no - it was a bug in my pstream I just fixed ,-)
14:20 < rxr> now it is not needed at all
14:39 < rxr> ouhm - ok - I stop prettified it - let's tart using it first ...
14:44 < CIA-9> chris * r9226 /trunk/package/develop/hdf5/hdf5.desc: * updated hdf5 (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
14:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9227 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:
14:45 < CIA-9> * utilize the new pstream in UpdateList (instead of the ugly C-style
14:45 < CIA-9> forking and manual pipe hassling)
14:46 < rxr> ^- look at that diff !!!
14:47 < CIA-9> rene * r9228 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * using namespace Utility - no explicit namespace prefix for Glob
14:49 < CIA-9> chris * r9229 /trunk/package/develop/pytables/pytables.desc: * updated pytables (0.9.1 -> 1.0)
15:10 < CIA-9> rene * r9230 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:
15:10 < CIA-9> * fixed UpdateList to only add versions to the list to match, if
15:10 < CIA-9> the version in question is not yet in the list - formerly
15:10 < CIA-9> a version was often injected multiple time, when multiple files
15:10 < CIA-9> such as .bz2, gz, .asc, ... were present)
15:11 < rxr> jeru: I update parted
15:12 < rxr> new version accidently found due to playing with the UpdateList ,-)
15:16 < CIA-9> rene * r9231 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * updated parted (1.6.21 -> 1.6.22)
15:20 < jeru> rxr: :)
15:20 * jeru moving home now
15:20 < jeru> cu later
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15:25 < rxr> ouhm - avn aka. netrunner added a lot of patches to submaster ...
15:37 < CIA-9> rene * r9232 /trunk/package/multimedia/kphone/ (gcc34.patch kphone.desc): * updated kphone (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
15:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9233 /trunk/misc/archive/Update.sh:
15:40 < CIA-9> * added support for pkg-ver to Update.sh, to allow easier cut'n paste
15:40 < CIA-9> of t2-updates notifications
15:43 < rxr> http://golem.de/0505/38312.html
15:43 < rxr> ATX-Mainboard f?r Pentium M mit Dothan-Kern
15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9234 /trunk/package/audio/libshout/libshout.desc: * updated libshout (2.0 -> 2.1)
15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9235 /trunk/package/x11/xdaliclock/xdaliclock.desc: * updated xdaliclock (2.19 -> 2.20)
15:45 < mnemoc> pkg-ver is harmfulll... some packages has - on their names
15:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I know - this is why I did not implemented it in the first place
15:45 < rxr> however intarnally a - seperated version is passed to Create-UpdPatch anyway ...
15:46 < rxr> and it allows easier cut'n pasting
15:46 < rxr> however in practice, even pkg-ver is ok, since all but the last part after - is peeled off
15:46 < rxr> so only versions with - do not work ...
15:46 < rxr> like mypkg-2.3.4-1 ...
15:47 < rxr> so I think we should fix the internal passing to Create-UpdPatch to use two arguments, too
15:47 < rxr> but support the - seperated form for compatibility ...
15:47 < mnemoc> ack
15:47 * valentin wonders if we will have r10000 before my daughter ..
15:47 < mnemoc> uhm
15:47 < mnemoc> valentin: date?
15:47 < rxr> valentin: we will
15:47 < valentin> est. 2005-07-27
15:47 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:48 < mnemoc> moin rxr :)
15:48 < rxr> valentin: that should be no problem - however you might wonder if we are at r11000 then ...
15:49 < mnemoc> :)
15:50 < rxr> mnemoc: when do you estimate 2.1.0-rc1 ?
15:51 < rxr> mnemoc: when you need help do'g 2.1 merging or fixing just let me know ...
15:51 < mnemoc> two three days
15:52 < mnemoc> i only want bdb*-java thing fixed and give some tries on ooo-m104/java
15:52 < rxr> ic
15:52 * rxr needs lunch ...
15:53 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <-- 25 of 1670 of a new reference build
15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: ice
15:53 < rxr> +n
15:53 < mnemoc> bdb-java are intentionaly broken, and ooo is under testing
15:54 < mnemoc> that means 22 of 11670
15:54 < mnemoc> 1670
15:54 < rxr> 1.3 % ...
15:55 < mnemoc> any help fixing is welcomed
15:56 < mnemoc> but i only want bdb*-java to tag
15:56 < mnemoc> sadly i'm on exams :\
15:56 < rxr> then give your exams higher priority
15:56 < mnemoc> i also wanted www2 official before tagging... but....
15:58 < rxr> I try to fix xli
15:59 < mnemoc> thanks
15:59 < rxr> and other later on
15:59 < mnemoc> :)
16:04 < rxr> ouhm - valentin - now the livecd goes into PC-Linux
16:05 < rxr> ISO till friday and I write yet another overview article in the upcomming two days ...
16:05 < rxr> valentin: can you get the gui netconf into the cd till tomorrow night?
16:05 < rxr> so we have some days for testing ...
16:08 < CIA-9> rene * r9236 /trunk/package/x11/xli/gcc34.patch: * fixed xli for gcc >= 3.4
16:09 < valentin> rxr: that is good to know and will motivate me :)
16:10 < valentin> btw: they choose the dog for bundeskanzler candidate
16:12 < rxr> valentin: ?
16:12 < rxr> ah - merkel ...
16:13 < rxr> "we have soo many great ideas how to improve germany! - Well so far we want to raise taxes by a few percent."
16:13 < rxr> ...
16:13 * rxr lunch ...
16:21 < CIA-9> rene * r9237 /trunk/package/x11/wmint/ (prefix.patch wmint.conf): * fixed wmint to not install into usr/local and cleaned the .conf
16:21 < rxr> mnemoc: the last two revs are for you ...
16:21 < rxr> now really lunch ,-)
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17:05 < rxr> hi tilix
17:06 < tilix> hi rxr
17:07 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFB084.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
17:07 < jeru> re hi
17:08 < tilix> hi jeru
17:09 < jeru> hi tilix
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17:16 < mtr> hi *
17:17 < rxr> hey mtr !
17:17 < rxr> mnemoc: next to fix is deva ...
17:19 < jeru> rxr: btw, I've downgraded texinfo in the refbuild, but now binutils failed
17:21 < CIA-9> mtr * r9238 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (pkg_xine-lib_post.conf vdr.desc):
17:21 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.3.23 -> 1.3.25)
17:21 < CIA-9> * updated vdr plugins softdevice and xine
17:21 < jeru> hi mtr
17:21 < mtr> hi jeru
17:24 < CIA-9> mtr * r9239 /trunk/package/contrib/vidix/vidix.desc: * updated vidix (0.9.9 -> 0.9.9.1)
17:40 < CIA-9> mtr * r9240 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/vdr.desc: * updated vdr plugins: mp3/mplayer (0.9.12), bitstreamout (0.83a), femon (0.9.0)
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17:52 < CIA-9> mtr * r9241 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (0.5.1 -> 0.5.3)
18:05 < CIA-9> rene * r9242 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/maverik.conf:
18:05 < CIA-9> * converted maverik to more modern code but there is still a lot to fix
18:05 < CIA-9> - e.g. building from source and not installing a lot of junk
18:10 < CIA-9> rene * r9243 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/ (config.hlp config.in maverik.conf): * removed prefix config from maverik
18:16 < rxr> the new texinfo has another problem:
18:16 < rxr> !> Found shared files with other packages:
18:16 < rxr> !> usr/bin/texi2pdf: tetex texinfo
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18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r9244 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xcfgt2:
18:21 < CIA-9> * merged latest livecd X detection, to fix sis vs.
18:21 < CIA-9> silicon motion detection
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18:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9246 /trunk/package/network/apollon/apollon.desc: * updated apollon (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2.1)
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18:37 < sparc-kly> hi all
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18:38 < rxr> hi sparc-kly
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18:38 < rxr> compiling on a 270Mhz Ultra SPARC is so much fun:
18:38 < rxr> 15201 root 25 0 81176 78m 4792 R 98.4 31.6 5:59.13 cc1plus
18:39 < rxr> 15201 root 25 0 82744 79m 4792 R 98.7 32.2 6:28.63 cc1plus
18:54 < sparc-kly> i planned buy another U5
18:54 < sparc-kly> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5778515047
19:33 < rxr> does the performance match your needs ?
19:47 < rxr> svn# du -csh t2
19:47 < rxr> 192M t2
19:47 < rxr> ...
19:47 < rxr> server side database ...
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: valentin: jeru: svn disabled
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: valentin: jeru: server side updating ...
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20:13 < rxr> # time svn blame xorg-conf.in
20:13 < rxr> real 0m3.179s
20:13 < rxr> user 0m0.043s
20:13 < rxr> sys 0m0.014s
20:13 < rxr> just as reference
20:14 < rxr> user 4m49.423s
20:14 < rxr> ^- dumping al svn repos ...
20:26 < rxr> Found 2619 new/updated files in source tree:
20:26 < rxr> ...
20:53 < valentin> re
21:26 < rxr> ouhm - the athlon needs quite some time to rebuild all the subversion deps and subversion itself from source ...
21:35 < rxr> Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7d DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 Server at dl.exactcode.de Port 80
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21:41 < valentin> :*
21:42 < valentin> :( even
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21:55 < rxr> reloading databases in progress
21:57 < rxr> valentin: I guess I also should schedule a kernel update with this big maintenance service downtime ?
22:00 < valentin> you could do that
22:00 < valentin> but one without leaks please ...
22:23 < rxr> valentin: how do the disk sound with this massive HD access =
22:23 < rxr> ? even
22:31 * rxr showering - the database import still will take a while ...
22:34 < valentin> rxr: sounds like always
22:45 < rxr> hm
22:45 < rxr> how boring
22:47 < jeru> re hi
22:47 < jeru> what are you doing guys ?
22:48 < rxr> jeru: updatating subversion server side - and reloading the database ...
22:48 < rxr> bases that is ...
22:48 * rxr a bit in the background - reading some C++ papers ..
22:48 < jeru> oh!
22:48 < rxr> cool - kdelibs installing on my U5 ... ,-)
22:49 < jeru> :)
22:49 < jeru> but minit failed on my target :(
23:03 < rxr> == 17:09:02 =[5]=> Building kde/kdelibs [3.4.0 2.2.0-alpha].
23:03 < rxr> == 05/30/05 23:10:03 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs.
23:09 < rxr> 270Mhz U5 - but now with 256MB RAM
23:09 < rxr> I think formerly it would have taken way longer - since it would have swapped like crazzy ...
23:15 < rxr> valentin: could you test svn up on your iBook?
23:15 < rxr> please do not commit yet <- anyone
23:16 < rxr> the svn blame from above redunced to:
23:16 < rxr> real 0m1.229s
23:16 < rxr> user 0m0.039s
23:16 < rxr> sys 0m0.011s
23:16 < rxr> before the update it was:
23:16 < rxr> real 0m3.179s
23:16 < rxr> user 0m0.043s
23:16 < rxr> sys 0m0.014s
23:22 < CIA-9> rene * r9247 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/ (wine.cache wine.desc): * updated wine (20050524 -> 20050419)
23:25 < CIA-9> rene * r9248 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.desc: * updated ettercap (NG-0.7.2 -> NG-0.7.3)
23:29 < valentin> hm
23:29 < rxr> yes
23:29 < valentin> not bad
23:30 < rxr> that was "svn blame xorg-conf.in"
23:30 < valentin> rxr: server update only or client, too ?
23:31 < rxr> for half of the speedup you need a new client, too
23:32 < valentin> svn up worked
23:39 < CIA-9> rene * r9249 /trunk/package/audio/gnupod/gnupod.desc: * updated gnupod (0.97 -> 0.98)
23:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9250 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/serio.patch: * added forgotten (?) serio.patch to linux-header
23:42 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/
23:42 < rxr> ^- nice graph
23:43 < CIA-9> rene * r9251 /trunk/package/mail/muttprint/muttprint.desc: * updated muttprint (0.72c -> 0.72d)
23:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9252 /trunk/package/develop/swig/ (swig.conf swig.desc): * updated swig (1.3.21 -> 1.3.24)
23:47 < rxr> valentin: I took apart the FH's U5 CPU module - cleaned the pins and placed new heat transmission paste on it
23:47 < rxr> and it still boots anr runs ,-)
23:48 < CIA-9> rene * r9253 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
23:53 < rxr> if the box fails again I'll carry it back to the FH and slam it in some corner
23:54 < rxr> and live happy with my RAM enhanced own, but slower, but stable U5 ...
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08:35 < SerWou> hello
08:42 < mnemoc> hi SerWou
08:46 < SerWou> how are mnemoc ?
08:49 < mnemoc> sleepy :) and you?
09:05 < SerWou> yeah
09:05 < SerWou> fucking weather today
09:05 < SerWou> rainning
09:09 < mnemoc> also here
09:22 < CIA-9> amery * r9206 /branches/2.1/package/e17/ecore/ecore.desc: * updated ecore (2005-03-29 -> 2005-03-30), just one day to let e-utils build
09:25 < SerWou> CIA-9 is a bot or what ? ;)
09:26 < mnemoc> http://cia.navi.cx
09:39 < SerWou> ho
09:39 < SerWou> yes it is
09:49 < rxr_> re
09:49 < rxr_> hey mnemoc !
09:51 < mnemoc> hi rxr_
09:51 < mnemoc> rxr_: http://directory.fsf.org/
09:53 < jsaw> re
09:54 < rxr_> h
09:54 < rxr_> hi jsaw
09:54 < jsaw> hi rxr
09:54 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
09:54 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
09:54 < rxr_> mnemoc: what about this directory ?
09:55 < mnemoc> rxr_: we are not listed ;)
09:55 < jsaw> besides that two kde components died "unexpectedly", the live iso looks good!
09:56 < rxr_> jsaw: ,-)
09:57 < rxr_> mnemoc: do you notify them ?
09:57 < mnemoc> rxr_: it's a large form, and i'm falling sleep
09:58 < rxr_> should I ?
09:58 < mnemoc> please :)
09:58 < jsaw> rxr: would it be possible to detect an existing swap partition automatically?
09:59 < rxr_> jsaw: yes it would
10:02 < rxr_> mnemoc: I think it makes sense to change my pkg update iterating loop to not iterate over the repositories and choose every seventh
10:02 < rxr_> but to iterate over all packages and choose every seventh, no?
10:02 < mnemoc> yes
10:02 < rxr_> to archive a more equal distribution over the week ...
10:02 < mnemoc> :)
10:03 < rxr_> so - both of my sparc now have a add-on usb 2.0 card
10:03 < rxr_> my first one had a 1.0 card - but lukily due to this windows 2000 even with SP4 not working with the 2.0 card of my neighbor, it has a 2.0 card now, too ,-)
10:04 < rxr_> not that there would be much more than a mouse on that card, but ,-)
10:06 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:07 < rxr> Spielberg & Lucas Approve Indy 4 Script
10:11 < rxr> No Hyper Threading Vulnerability in Linux Kernel
10:18 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep... just 1:30, but i need it
10:18 < mnemoc> cu
10:18 < jsaw> cu mnemoc
10:19 < rxr> cu mnemoc
10:20 < mnemoc> thx, bye
10:29 < valentin> moin
10:29 < rxr> hey valentin
10:30 < valentin> quite a thunderstorm this morning
10:31 < rxr> thunder ?
10:31 < rxr> only wind here - no thunder ...
10:31 < valentin> yep
10:31 < rxr> ouh
10:31 < rxr> at what time ?
10:31 < valentin> around 5:00
10:31 < rxr> ah - ok - I was asleep at that time ...
10:32 < rxr> valentin: I now have not only usb 2.0 in my U30 - but also in my U5 - thanks to win2k not beeing able to load driver for devices on a usb 2.0 card ...
10:32 < rxr> the usb 1.0 card from my U5 works ...
10:32 < valentin> hm
10:32 < rxr> thanks bill for all the hardware one gets due to windows users ...
10:32 < rxr> "too slow" whole boxes, single, not working hardware, ...
10:33 < rxr> just cool *g*
10:34 < rxr> I know have additional 128MB of RAM from the uni sparc in my U5 - let's see if this is stable ...
10:34 < valentin> not to mention our t2 server
10:34 < rxr> yep - or the gsmp server ...
10:34 < valentin> to instable and too slow :)
10:34 < valentin> too bad my brother bought a really bad box this time...
10:35 < rxr> or the 1.3Ghz athlon my farther got ...
10:35 < rxr> valentin: that is the next update will only get you a really low-budged box ?
10:35 < rxr> like what? aldi or otto ?
10:39 < valentin> not sure, but some cheap cr*p
10:42 < rxr> is he happy with it ?
10:42 < valentin> he can play his games...
10:43 < valentin> he is allways happy with his cheap hardware and periphery stuff
10:44 < rxr> Mathomatic 12.4.0
10:44 < rxr> tough still not too advanced, should I revert the removal of the package and update it ?
10:44 < rxr> on the other hand it is too unadvanced to be useful for normal stuff anyway
10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9207 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/ (mine.desc new_dialog_version.patch): * updated mine (0.20 -> 0.21)
10:47 < valentin> i never used Mathomatic
10:48 < rxr> you read the desc and commented "unusable"
10:49 < valentin> ah - this hobby project thing
10:49 < valentin> rxr, does this sound familiar: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050530
10:56 < rxr> ... ,-)
10:57 < valentin> shower and breakfast and stuff ... bbl
11:29 < CIA-9> rene * r9208 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/ (4 files): * updated powerpc-utils (1.1.3-7 -> 1.1.3-15)
11:43 < CIA-9> chris * r9209 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc8)
11:44 < CIA-9> chris * r9210 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc4 -> 0.9.0-rc5)
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11:55 < rxr> hi madtux
11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r9211 /trunk/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/ (4 files): * updated mac-fdisk (0.1-10 -> 0.1-12)
11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r9212 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/powerpc-utils.conf: * set prefix to "" instead of "/" in powerpc-utils
11:59 < madtux> hello rene
12:04 < rxr> miguel, how are you ?
12:05 < CIA-9> rene * r9213 /trunk/package/powerpc/linux24benh/: * removed linux24benh - reached end of life in the t2 2.2 tree
12:08 < madtux> see i like it better when call me miguel... i don't feel like such a stranger here
12:08 < madtux> ;)
12:08 < madtux> i am good and u my friend?
12:11 < rxr> oh - /me too
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r9214 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * merge olist, so they do not accumulate
12:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9215 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/ (dpkg.desc no-ssd_md5sum.patch): * updated dpkg (1.10.27 -> 1.13.4)
12:31 < rxr> miguel, have you read, that we now have a update concentrator? mailing possible updates to t2-updates@exactcode.de
12:38 < madtux> hadn't read it
12:38 < madtux> but i guess now i know
12:38 < madtux> :)
12:41 < CIA-9> rene * r9216 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.4 -> 0.6.7)
12:41 < CIA-9> rene * r9217 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/doxygen.desc: * updated doxygen (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
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12:42 < jeru> hi
12:42 < rxr> hey jsaw
12:42 < rxr> hey jeru, even
12:42 < jeru> hi rxr
12:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9218 /trunk/package/archiver/tnef/tnef.desc: * updated tnef (1.3.2 -> 1.3.3)
12:45 < rxr> ^- the t2 concentrator - and how t2 expanded to be the most up-to-date OS available ...
12:46 < madtux> :)
12:47 < rxr> madtux: nighly prposed updates at 4 o'clock - subsribe and enjoy ,-)
12:50 < CIA-9> rene * r9219 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiser4progs/reiser4progs.desc: * updated reiser4progs (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
12:51 < CIA-9> rene * r9220 /trunk/package/archiver/lzo/lzo.desc: * updated lzo (1.08 -> 2.00)
12:51 < rxr> jeru: that have been my morning updates - feel free to take over ,-)
12:53 < jeru> rxr: thank you :)
12:56 < jeru> rxr: I've to build a prototype for a security box. I want to use the embedded target as starting point. Btw, why you didn't used busybox?
12:56 < rxr> because I avoid ugly packages
12:57 < rxr> you can of course source the embedded target and define to use busybox ...
12:57 < madtux> *g*
12:57 < jeru> rxr: ok ;)
12:59 < CIA-9> rene * r9221 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.2.19 -> 1.2.20)
13:04 < rxr> jeru: I also update valgrind ...
13:08 < jeru> rxr: ok ... atm, I'm a bit busy anyway ... so I'll starting update session later
13:08 < CIA-9> rene * r9222 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * updated valgrind (2.2.0 -> 2.4.0)
13:09 < CIA-9> rene * r9223 /trunk/package/textproc/libxslt/libxslt.desc: * updated libxslt (1.1.12 -> 1.1.14)
13:11 < jeru> rxr: btw, should I stop the ref build for trunk ... and do a resync? it's in stage 1 building findutils right now
13:11 < rxr> just svn up and letting it go would be ok, no ?
13:12 < jeru> rxr: let's see ;)
13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r9224 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.conf:
13:23 < CIA-9> * simplified valgrind srctar overwrite and fixed it for the new
13:23 < CIA-9> ppc filename
13:26 < jeru> rxr: updating hdf5 + pytables
13:30 < rxr> valentin: the new ppc valgrind works way better now ,-)!
13:30 < jeru> rxr:
13:30 < jeru> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
13:30 < rxr> yes, known
13:30 < rxr> where do you see this ?
13:30 < jeru> should I patch ?
13:30 < jeru> hdf5
13:31 < rxr> yes - patch it to use the POSIX syntax ,-)
13:31 < jeru> ok
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13:36 < CIA-9> rene * r9225 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.conf: * fixed valgrind-ppc to build
13:38 < jeru> rxr: texinfo still fails in stage 1
13:38 < jeru> Found loop in install_wrapper: /t2/trunk/build/trunkref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium4-reference/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/wrapper/mv ./confstatcY3210/out /t2/trunk/src.texinfo.1117463159.25702.0/texinfo-4.8/tools/./confstatcY3210/in
13:38 < jeru> ^ any ideas ?
13:39 < rxr> hm
13:39 < rxr> would need to have a shell in the build and debug it, too
13:39 < rxr> I could alter on ...
13:51 < valentin> re
13:52 < rxr> hi valentin
13:57 < jeru> rxr: is this an known problem in libowfat using uclibc ?
13:57 < jeru> 586-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -c socket/socket_ip4loopback.c -pipe -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -I.
13:57 < jeru> i586-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -c socket/socket_listen.c -pipe -Wall -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -I.
13:57 < jeru> In file included from socket/socket_connected.c:7:
13:57 < jeru> ./havesl.h:1: error: conflicting types for 'socklen_t'
13:58 < valentin> rxr: what does "works better" mean ?
13:58 < rxr> hm - no idea if I ever used libowfat with uclibc ...
13:58 < jeru> rxr: at least it's enabled on the embedded target ...
13:58 < rxr> valentin: formerly I only could run trivial binaries with valgrind on PPC - more complex ondes yield some "unrecognized instruction" or so early on
13:59 < rxr> the new one was able to execute bash, ls, ... without a problem ...
13:59 < jeru> so I guess you've used it some tie ago
13:59 < rxr> I think even bash failed with the previous ppc snapshot
13:59 < jeru> hi valentin
13:59 < rxr> jeru: then it might be a new regression
13:59 < valentin> hi jeru
14:02 < rxr> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:02 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl;
14:02 < rxr> sed.close_sink();
14:02 < rxr> sed.clear();
14:02 < rxr> sed >> std::cout.rdbuf();
14:02 < rxr> =>
14:02 < rxr> Hello C++!
14:02 < rxr> ,-)
14:04 < valentin> rxr: how about
14:04 < valentin> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:04 < valentin> pstream sed ("sed", (char*[]){"sed", "s/World/C++/", 0} );
14:04 < valentin> damn
14:05 < valentin> ok i do not try to type in here
14:05 < valentin> can you direct sed output into a rdbuf of another pstream ?
14:05 < rxr> yes - that should work fine
14:05 < valentin> nice
14:06 < rxr> I leave it as excersice for you when I commit the final version in some minutes
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14:11 < valentin> why do you need to call clear() on the pstream ?
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14:14 < rxr> I think I'll introduce some eof manipulator or so ...
14:14 < rxr> soe the close_sink can be expressed as:
14:14 < rxr> sed << "Hello World!" << std::endl << eof;
14:15 < rxr> valentin: somehow the stream gets into soe eof or bad state
14:15 < rxr> I have still have to analyze why this is the case
14:16 < valentin> hm
14:16 < valentin> btw: you allways have to stream all the content into mem before draining the stream ?
14:18 < rxr> nope
14:18 < rxr> but sed does buffer to much - and the read will hand since sed is waiting for more input ...
14:19 < rxr> valentin: the clear is only needed when I use std::cout before - and thus it gets into eof ...
14:20 < rxr> hm - strange
14:20 < rxr> ah ...
14:20 < rxr> no - it was a bug in my pstream I just fixed ,-)
14:20 < rxr> now it is not needed at all
14:39 < rxr> ouhm - ok - I stop prettified it - let's tart using it first ...
14:44 < CIA-9> chris * r9226 /trunk/package/develop/hdf5/hdf5.desc: * updated hdf5 (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
14:45 < CIA-9> rene * r9227 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:
14:45 < CIA-9> * utilize the new pstream in UpdateList (instead of the ugly C-style
14:45 < CIA-9> forking and manual pipe hassling)
14:46 < rxr> ^- look at that diff !!!
14:47 < CIA-9> rene * r9228 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * using namespace Utility - no explicit namespace prefix for Glob
14:49 < CIA-9> chris * r9229 /trunk/package/develop/pytables/pytables.desc: * updated pytables (0.9.1 -> 1.0)
15:10 < CIA-9> rene * r9230 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc:
15:10 < CIA-9> * fixed UpdateList to only add versions to the list to match, if
15:10 < CIA-9> the version in question is not yet in the list - formerly
15:10 < CIA-9> a version was often injected multiple time, when multiple files
15:10 < CIA-9> such as .bz2, gz, .asc, ... were present)
15:11 < rxr> jeru: I update parted
15:12 < rxr> new version accidently found due to playing with the UpdateList ,-)
15:16 < CIA-9> rene * r9231 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc: * updated parted (1.6.21 -> 1.6.22)
15:20 < jeru> rxr: :)
15:20 * jeru moving home now
15:20 < jeru> cu later
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15:25 < rxr> ouhm - avn aka. netrunner added a lot of patches to submaster ...
15:37 < CIA-9> rene * r9232 /trunk/package/multimedia/kphone/ (gcc34.patch kphone.desc): * updated kphone (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1)
15:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9233 /trunk/misc/archive/Update.sh:
15:40 < CIA-9> * added support for pkg-ver to Update.sh, to allow easier cut'n paste
15:40 < CIA-9> of t2-updates notifications
15:43 < rxr> http://golem.de/0505/38312.html
15:43 < rxr> ATX-Mainboard f?r Pentium M mit Dothan-Kern
15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9234 /trunk/package/audio/libshout/libshout.desc: * updated libshout (2.0 -> 2.1)
15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9235 /trunk/package/x11/xdaliclock/xdaliclock.desc: * updated xdaliclock (2.19 -> 2.20)
15:45 < mnemoc> pkg-ver is harmfulll... some packages has - on their names
15:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I know - this is why I did not implemented it in the first place
15:45 < rxr> however intarnally a - seperated version is passed to Create-UpdPatch anyway ...
15:46 < rxr> and it allows easier cut'n pasting
15:46 < rxr> however in practice, even pkg-ver is ok, since all but the last part after - is peeled off
15:46 < rxr> so only versions with - do not work ...
15:46 < rxr> like mypkg-2.3.4-1 ...
15:47 < rxr> so I think we should fix the internal passing to Create-UpdPatch to use two arguments, too
15:47 < rxr> but support the - seperated form for compatibility ...
15:47 < mnemoc> ack
15:47 * valentin wonders if we will have r10000 before my daughter ..
15:47 < mnemoc> uhm
15:47 < mnemoc> valentin: date?
15:47 < rxr> valentin: we will
15:47 < valentin> est. 2005-07-27
15:47 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:48 < mnemoc> moin rxr :)
15:48 < rxr> valentin: that should be no problem - however you might wonder if we are at r11000 then ...
15:49 < mnemoc> :)
15:50 < rxr> mnemoc: when do you estimate 2.1.0-rc1 ?
15:51 < rxr> mnemoc: when you need help do'g 2.1 merging or fixing just let me know ...
15:51 < mnemoc> two three days
15:52 < mnemoc> i only want bdb*-java thing fixed and give some tries on ooo-m104/java
15:52 < rxr> ic
15:52 * rxr needs lunch ...
15:53 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <-- 25 of 1670 of a new reference build
15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: ice
15:53 < rxr> +n
15:53 < mnemoc> bdb-java are intentionaly broken, and ooo is under testing
15:54 < mnemoc> that means 22 of 11670
15:54 < mnemoc> 1670
15:54 < rxr> 1.3 % ...
15:55 < mnemoc> any help fixing is welcomed
15:56 < mnemoc> but i only want bdb*-java to tag
15:56 < mnemoc> sadly i'm on exams :\
15:56 < rxr> then give your exams higher priority
15:56 < mnemoc> i also wanted www2 official before tagging... but....
15:58 < rxr> I try to fix xli
15:59 < mnemoc> thanks
15:59 < rxr> and other later on
15:59 < mnemoc> :)
16:04 < rxr> ouhm - valentin - now the livecd goes into PC-Linux
16:05 < rxr> ISO till friday and I write yet another overview article in the upcomming two days ...
16:05 < rxr> valentin: can you get the gui netconf into the cd till tomorrow night?
16:05 < rxr> so we have some days for testing ...
16:08 < CIA-9> rene * r9236 /trunk/package/x11/xli/gcc34.patch: * fixed xli for gcc >= 3.4
16:09 < valentin> rxr: that is good to know and will motivate me :)
16:10 < valentin> btw: they choose the dog for bundeskanzler candidate
16:12 < rxr> valentin: ?
16:12 < rxr> ah - merkel ...
16:13 < rxr> "we have soo many great ideas how to improve germany! - Well so far we want to raise taxes by a few percent."
16:13 < rxr> ...
16:13 * rxr lunch ...
16:21 < CIA-9> rene * r9237 /trunk/package/x11/wmint/ (prefix.patch wmint.conf): * fixed wmint to not install into usr/local and cleaned the .conf
16:21 < rxr> mnemoc: the last two revs are for you ...
16:21 < rxr> now really lunch ,-)
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17:05 < rxr> hi tilix
17:06 < tilix> hi rxr
17:07 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFB084.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
17:07 < jeru> re hi
17:08 < tilix> hi jeru
17:09 < jeru> hi tilix
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17:16 < mtr> hi *
17:17 < rxr> hey mtr !
17:17 < rxr> mnemoc: next to fix is deva ...
17:19 < jeru> rxr: btw, I've downgraded texinfo in the refbuild, but now binutils failed
17:21 < CIA-9> mtr * r9238 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (pkg_xine-lib_post.conf vdr.desc):
17:21 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.3.23 -> 1.3.25)
17:21 < CIA-9> * updated vdr plugins softdevice and xine
17:21 < jeru> hi mtr
17:21 < mtr> hi jeru
17:24 < CIA-9> mtr * r9239 /trunk/package/contrib/vidix/vidix.desc: * updated vidix (0.9.9 -> 0.9.9.1)
17:40 < CIA-9> mtr * r9240 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/vdr.desc: * updated vdr plugins: mp3/mplayer (0.9.12), bitstreamout (0.83a), femon (0.9.0)
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17:52 < CIA-9> mtr * r9241 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (0.5.1 -> 0.5.3)
18:05 < CIA-9> rene * r9242 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/maverik.conf:
18:05 < CIA-9> * converted maverik to more modern code but there is still a lot to fix
18:05 < CIA-9> - e.g. building from source and not installing a lot of junk
18:10 < CIA-9> rene * r9243 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/ (config.hlp config.in maverik.conf): * removed prefix config from maverik
18:16 < rxr> the new texinfo has another problem:
18:16 < rxr> !> Found shared files with other packages:
18:16 < rxr> !> usr/bin/texi2pdf: tetex texinfo
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18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r9244 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xcfgt2:
18:21 < CIA-9> * merged latest livecd X detection, to fix sis vs.
18:21 < CIA-9> silicon motion detection
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18:26 < CIA-9> rene * r9245 /trunk/package/network/libgift/libgift.desc: * updated libgift/gift-openft (0.2.1.5 -> 0.2.1.6)
18:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9246 /trunk/package/network/apollon/apollon.desc: * updated apollon (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2.1)
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18:37 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has joined #t2
18:37 < sparc-kly> hi all
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18:38 < rxr> hi sparc-kly
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18:38 < rxr> compiling on a 270Mhz Ultra SPARC is so much fun:
18:38 < rxr> 15201 root 25 0 81176 78m 4792 R 98.4 31.6 5:59.13 cc1plus
18:39 < rxr> 15201 root 25 0 82744 79m 4792 R 98.7 32.2 6:28.63 cc1plus
18:54 < sparc-kly> i planned buy another U5
18:54 < sparc-kly> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5778515047
19:33 < rxr> does the performance match your needs ?
19:47 < rxr> svn# du -csh t2
19:47 < rxr> 192M t2
19:47 < rxr> ...
19:47 < rxr> server side database ...
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: valentin: jeru: svn disabled
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: valentin: jeru: server side updating ...
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20:13 < rxr> # time svn blame xorg-conf.in
20:13 < rxr> real 0m3.179s
20:13 < rxr> user 0m0.043s
20:13 < rxr> sys 0m0.014s
20:13 < rxr> just as reference
20:14 < rxr> user 4m49.423s
20:14 < rxr> ^- dumping al svn repos ...
20:26 < rxr> Found 2619 new/updated files in source tree:
20:26 < rxr> ...
20:53 < valentin> re
21:26 < rxr> ouhm - the athlon needs quite some time to rebuild all the subversion deps and subversion itself from source ...
21:35 < rxr> Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7d DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 Server at dl.exactcode.de Port 80
21:35 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2
21:41 < valentin> :*
21:42 < valentin> :( even
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21:55 < rxr> reloading databases in progress
21:57 < rxr> valentin: I guess I also should schedule a kernel update with this big maintenance service downtime ?
22:00 < valentin> you could do that
22:00 < valentin> but one without leaks please ...
22:23 < rxr> valentin: how do the disk sound with this massive HD access =
22:23 < rxr> ? even
22:31 * rxr showering - the database import still will take a while ...
22:34 < valentin> rxr: sounds like always
22:45 < rxr> hm
22:45 < rxr> how boring
22:47 < jeru> re hi
22:47 < jeru> what are you doing guys ?
22:48 < rxr> jeru: updatating subversion server side - and reloading the database ...
22:48 < rxr> bases that is ...
22:48 * rxr a bit in the background - reading some C++ papers ..
22:48 < jeru> oh!
22:48 < rxr> cool - kdelibs installing on my U5 ... ,-)
22:49 < jeru> :)
22:49 < jeru> but minit failed on my target :(
23:03 < rxr> == 17:09:02 =[5]=> Building kde/kdelibs [3.4.0 2.2.0-alpha].
23:03 < rxr> == 05/30/05 23:10:03 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs.
23:09 < rxr> 270Mhz U5 - but now with 256MB RAM
23:09 < rxr> I think formerly it would have taken way longer - since it would have swapped like crazzy ...
23:15 < rxr> valentin: could you test svn up on your iBook?
23:15 < rxr> please do not commit yet <- anyone
23:16 < rxr> the svn blame from above redunced to:
23:16 < rxr> real 0m1.229s
23:16 < rxr> user 0m0.039s
23:16 < rxr> sys 0m0.011s
23:16 < rxr> before the update it was:
23:16 < rxr> real 0m3.179s
23:16 < rxr> user 0m0.043s
23:16 < rxr> sys 0m0.014s
23:22 < CIA-9> rene * r9247 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/ (wine.cache wine.desc): * updated wine (20050524 -> 20050419)
23:25 < CIA-9> rene * r9248 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.desc: * updated ettercap (NG-0.7.2 -> NG-0.7.3)
23:29 < valentin> hm
23:29 < rxr> yes
23:29 < valentin> not bad
23:30 < rxr> that was "svn blame xorg-conf.in"
23:30 < valentin> rxr: server update only or client, too ?
23:31 < rxr> for half of the speedup you need a new client, too
23:32 < valentin> svn up worked
23:39 < CIA-9> rene * r9249 /trunk/package/audio/gnupod/gnupod.desc: * updated gnupod (0.97 -> 0.98)
23:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9250 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/serio.patch: * added forgotten (?) serio.patch to linux-header
23:42 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/
23:42 < rxr> ^- nice graph
23:43 < CIA-9> rene * r9251 /trunk/package/mail/muttprint/muttprint.desc: * updated muttprint (0.72c -> 0.72d)
23:44 < CIA-9> rene * r9252 /trunk/package/develop/swig/ (swig.conf swig.desc): * updated swig (1.3.21 -> 1.3.24)
23:47 < rxr> valentin: I took apart the FH's U5 CPU module - cleaned the pins and placed new heat transmission paste on it
23:47 < rxr> and it still boots anr runs ,-)
23:48 < CIA-9> rene * r9253 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
23:53 < rxr> if the box fails again I'll carry it back to the FH and slam it in some corner
23:54 < rxr> and live happy with my RAM enhanced own, but slower, but stable U5 ...
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