--- Log opened Wed Jun 01 00:00:08 2005 --- Day changed Wed Jun 01 2005 00:00 < mnemoc> on two weeks national geographic channel (spanish version) will give a documental about dan brown and his book 00:19 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.74] has joined #t2 00:19 < keinek> hi 00:39 < _Lewellyn> hm. livecd boots here. kinda... 00:40 < _Lewellyn> it searches for the livecd and can't find it. 00:40 < _Lewellyn> then it drops me to a shell after complaining that it can't find /dev/tty 00:41 < valentin> did init run through ? 00:42 < _Lewellyn> dunno. let me grab my palm so i can irc from that part of the office. 00:46 < _Lewellyn> it died right after populating /dev 00:46 < valentin> i guess it could not mount the disc 00:47 < _Lewellyn> why can't it find /dev/tty, i wonder 00:47 < _Lewellyn> it's there 00:47 < valentin> the files ? 00:47 < valentin> s/files/device nodes 00:48 < _Lewellyn> the node, yes 00:48 < _Lewellyn> i have no hdX nodes, though 00:48 < _Lewellyn> ah 00:48 < _Lewellyn> i have sda 00:48 < _Lewellyn> no sdb 00:49 < _Lewellyn> sda is my hard disc (sata) 00:49 < _Lewellyn> it does not see my ide cdrom that i'm booting from 00:51 < _Lewellyn> wait. the kernel does see it. :/ 00:55 < _Lewellyn> /proc/ide/drivers shows ide-cdrom and ide-disk 00:55 < _Lewellyn> my hard disk shows up in /proc/scsi/scisi, though 00:58 -!- maddin [~martin@p54BDFFD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59 < _Lewellyn> any clues as to where i should look now? :( 01:01 < valentin> hm 01:01 < valentin> the module is loaded ? 01:02 < _Lewellyn> from what i can see 01:03 < _Lewellyn> how can i be sure? 01:12 < _Lewellyn> hm. goin to have to give up for now :( 01:23 < valentin> cat /proc/ide/drivers 01:23 < valentin> in case it is an ide drive 01:24 < _Lewellyn> 15:56 : _Lewellyn: /proc/ide/drivers shows ide-cdrom and ide-disk 01:25 < valentin> sorry, overread that (late here) 01:26 < valentin> if you have 7h, rxr will be awake then ,) 01:26 < _Lewellyn> ya 01:28 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:34 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.3] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:37 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.75] has joined #t2 02:30 < valentin> what happened to http://www.rocklinux.org/ ? 02:50 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.74] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:57 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178141193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 02:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 02:57 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 02:57 [Users #t2] 02:57 [ _Lewellyn] [ dualopteron] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 02:57 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw ] [ nzg] [ SerWou ] 02:57 [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly[u5]] 02:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 02:57 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 02:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 03:13 -!- rxr [~rene@e178134209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:22 < _Lewellyn> good question... 03:34 < mnemoc> rsync i guess 03:35 < valentin> ? 03:36 < mnemoc> rl.org 03:36 < mnemoc> looks like rsync --delete 03:37 < valentin> why ? 03:42 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.org/export.log 03:44 < valentin> no, i mean why should he execute sth like that ? 03:50 < _Lewellyn> the topic for #rocklinux doesn't indicate anything amiss... 03:51 < mnemoc> valentin: to syncronize their mirrors 03:55 < mnemoc> valentin: i remember he mentioned rsync when we discussed the possibily of a CMS 03:55 < mnemoc> valentin: he wanted plain html to rsync to dumb web servers 03:56 < valentin> which is good if your content seldom changes (and their mainpage almost never changes) 04:03 < mnemoc> once i propoced him to keep it in svn and cron 'svn up' ... be he said his mirrors don't have subversion 04:04 < mnemoc> .oO( or it was cvs? )o 04:13 < valentin> daylight outside 04:13 < valentin> time to sleep 04:14 < valentin> vampyre valentin hiding from dawn 04:15 < _Lewellyn> sleep well 04:16 < valentin> thanks 04:16 * _Lewellyn should go run errands before the sun finishes setting here 04:16 < valentin> errands ? 04:17 < valentin> ok, gn8 04:18 < _Lewellyn> ya. got to pay bills 05:32 < CIA-9> amery * r9285 /branches/2.1/package/database/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * fixed bdb33-java, finally 05:34 < _Lewellyn> yay! 05:37 < mnemoc> :) 05:38 < _Lewellyn> so now there's ooo with java? ;) 05:39 < mnemoc> i don't know yet 05:39 < mnemoc> ooo is building 05:39 * _Lewellyn crosses fingers 05:40 < _Lewellyn> and who's the best one to help me diagnose livecd boot failures? 05:43 < mnemoc> rene :) 05:46 < _Lewellyn> that was what i figured. 05:46 < _Lewellyn> rene, who is asleep ;) 05:46 < mnemoc> he will be here in two hours 05:47 < _Lewellyn> hopefully i'll be at the bar in 2 hours. 05:47 < mnemoc> at the bar? today? 05:48 < _Lewellyn> why not? 05:48 < _Lewellyn> :) 05:49 < mnemoc> :) 08:03 < rxr_> re 08:06 < rxr_> hi _Lewellyn 08:07 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:08 < _Lewellyn> hoi 08:08 * _Lewellyn is wandering out of work now :/ 08:15 < rxr> cu _Lewellyn 08:15 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.29] has joined #t2 08:21 < rxr> hi madtux 08:22 < madtux> hello rene 08:26 < rxr> how are you miguel ? 08:38 < madtux> i am good thanks 08:39 < rxr> madtux: what are you doing these days? 08:39 < madtux> i have my own company dedicated to provide solutions to sportsbooks and online casinos... 08:40 < madtux> doing security consulting, gaming software development, hosting colocation, systems administrationg 08:40 < madtux> outsourcing services 08:40 < madtux> basically that 08:40 < madtux> at least that on business part 08:40 < madtux> right now... i am fetching the t2 packages on my ultra5 08:40 < madtux> and on my workstation 08:41 < madtux> the idea is to help mnemoc finish the work for stable release 08:41 < madtux> then continue selinux implementation 08:41 < madtux> how about u ? 08:41 < rxr> more or less full time projects around t2 ,-) 08:41 < rxr> and article work 08:42 < madtux> thats cool 08:42 < madtux> :) 08:42 < madtux> i should get back to articles too 08:42 < madtux> its fun 08:55 < rxr> madtux: you could do me a favour, too 08:55 < madtux> tell me 08:55 < madtux> :) 08:56 < rxr> if you would have some sparce SPARC CPU cycles on a SPARC that has your full stability trust, you could build sparc64 on it 08:56 < madtux> i am doing it 08:56 < rxr> in theory it should build mostly fine - despite a few minor issues (like chroot and screen behaving strange) and maybe X might not yet come up at runtime 08:56 < rxr> but I would like to know if you experience random segmentation faults during the build 08:57 < rxr> if no then I have to throw the SPARC here into some garbage can ... 08:57 < madtux> lets start with minimal builds... u already know how long it takes to build stuff on this babys 08:57 < rxr> yep 08:57 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9vis-desktop: 08:57 < rxr> [5] base/glibc [5] base/gmp [5] mail/spamassassin [5] security/gnupg 08:57 < rxr> 670 builds total, 228 completed fine, 4 with errors. 08:57 < rxr> X is already built - however the last time X did not come up ... 08:57 < madtux> mmm... what does glibc says? 08:57 < rxr> in 64bit land noone else uses ... 08:58 < rxr> that is a random segfault 08:58 < rxr> build before and build now and then ... 08:58 < madtux> mm... 08:58 < rxr> this is what I like you to explore ... 08:58 < madtux> very well 08:58 < rxr> the build is on a el-cheapo (for free) machine 08:58 < rxr> my university put to rest 08:58 < rxr> hower all of those for free machines are instable ... 08:58 < rxr> another even freezes ever now and then ... 08:58 < rxr> this one has random segfaults 08:59 < madtux> relax i got my own hardware to test 08:59 < madtux> i guess we will just compare results 08:59 < rxr> and I like to know if it is the hardware or sparc64 that has random segf. problems - though I doubt that ... 08:59 < madtux> and if anything brakes i will try to fix it 09:00 < madtux> random segf could be defective hardware... or unstable system 09:00 < rxr> yes - that is what I think - but - well - I'd like to keep the sparc ,-) 09:00 < madtux> don't really think it has anything to do with sparc64 09:00 < rxr> it has 360Mhz - my "own" only has 270 ... 09:01 < madtux> don't throw it away.... if u want to get rid of it lets better find a way to send it to mnemoc 09:01 < madtux> :) 09:02 < madtux> then again lets how my testing work... as u already know it will take sometime to reach stage 5 09:02 < rxr> well - an unstble sparc is no help for him ... 09:02 < madtux> yeah 09:08 < rxr> the new oprofile get's on my nerve 09:13 < rxr> hm - when T2 build oprofile it fails with annoying bdf symbols missing 09:13 < rxr> when I build it manually it builds fine :-( 09:15 -!- jascha [~jascha@26e1511301c9594c.session.tor] has joined #t2 09:15 < rxr> hi jascha 09:21 < madtux> rxr, do u have any experience coding sockets? 09:21 < rxr> yep 09:21 < madtux> oh perhaps u can help me 09:21 < madtux> i have a problem with an application... 09:22 < madtux> it uses a socket, and it normally works fine, but randomly when it gets 100+ simultaneos connections it crashes 09:23 < madtux> and the client application stays on sort of a loop trying to connect back to the server 09:23 < madtux> already checked the software, db, system logs and i find not logs or anything that can give me an explanation of wht is making it crash 09:24 < madtux> its neither hardware failure 09:24 < madtux> some possible ideas? 09:25 < rxr> ouhm 09:26 < madtux> its just frustrating... 09:26 < madtux> i have no logs no nothing to track what the problem is 09:27 < rxr> sorry - I can not give a hint 09:27 < jascha> hi rxr 09:28 < madtux> ok thx 10:02 < CIA-9> rene * r9286 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.30 -> 2.4.31) 10:03 < madtux> nice 10:10 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0506/38354.html 10:10 < rxr> ok - so kde update and oprofile update pending 10:10 < rxr> the later needs some fixing - since it bulids manually and fails automated in t2 ... 10:12 < madtux> optimization maybe affecting? 10:18 < mtr> moin 10:18 < madtux> hi mtr 10:18 < rxr> moin mtr 10:19 < rxr> hm - indeed no auto update proposal this night - interesting ... 10:21 < rxr> ah - no there are -- just mail fwd. got broken ... 10:21 < madtux> mm 10:24 < rxr> 319.19 GB on gsmp last moth 10:24 < rxr> month 10:27 < CIA-9> rene * r9287 /trunk/package/kde/ (25 files in 25 dirs): (log message trimmed) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kdegames (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kdebindings (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-es (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-it (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kdeaddons (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-de (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1) 10:27 < madtux> just lookied at the new site again... look nice 10:28 < madtux> i really like the logo 10:28 < rxr> it is not final - it just kind of first try 10:29 < madtux> i like it 10:29 < rxr> have you seen my grub live cd mod and sepps logo use in it? 10:29 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live-splash.png 10:29 < madtux> can i have a login to contribute or is this developer exclusive? 10:30 < rxr> on - login should be easy - but i do not know the details - it is jeru's mnemoc's work in progress site ... 10:30 < madtux> oh very well 10:30 < madtux> i will bug mnemoc when he comes back 10:31 < rxr> madtux: note that I hacked the ugly border of grub's menu away and patched it further to display the cursor in fron of the line - not at the end ,-) 10:31 < madtux> nice 10:31 < rxr> hm - oprofile is s.th. done at configure time ... 10:32 < rxr> /* Synthesize special symbols when needed */ 10:32 < rxr> -#define SYNTHESIZE_SYMBOLS 0 10:32 < rxr> +#define SYNTHESIZE_SYMBOLS 1 10:33 < madtux> that fixes it? 10:33 < rxr> that is the diff of configure* crap 10:33 < madtux> thx patch the damn thing 10:33 < madtux> then* 10:34 < rxr> still test building ... 10:34 < madtux> ok 10:34 < madtux> i am ready to sleep a bit 10:34 < madtux> i will see u in a few hours 10:35 < rxr> http://golem.de/0506/38357.html 10:39 < rxr> yep built ... 10:47 < mtr> there are some problems cross compiling perl in stage 1 10:47 < rxr> .o(worked here) 10:47 < rxr> madtux: generic target? 10:48 < mtr> first, installperl failed with: Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib) at installperl line 132. 10:48 < mtr> desktop target, re-build with Create-Errlist -newdelete 10:48 < rxr> mtr: generic target? even 10:49 < rxr> hm - I start a reference on my box to see what happens 10:49 < CIA-9> rene * r9288 /trunk/package/develop/oprofile/ (oprofile.conf oprofile.desc): * updated oprofile (0.8.2 -> 0.9) 10:49 < mtr> i changed -Ddynamic_ext=File/Glob in .conf, which helped 10:49 < rxr> then it fully installs ? 10:49 < mtr> but now h2ph installs the headers files outside basedir :( 10:49 < rxr> .oO 10:50 < rxr> why is it doing more on your side than on my side ... 10:50 < rxr> I tested with embedded uclibc/arm and x86 yesterday ... 10:51 < mtr> yes, strange, i do not know where to start with this, probably i should verify with an embedded target 10:51 < mtr> build 10:52 < rxr> stay tuned I start a reference 10:53 < mtr> ok, thanks 10:55 < rxr> oh - I forgot to add a patch 10:55 < rxr> sorry 10:55 < mtr> texinfo failed to cross compile, too, i already fixed this on my system 10:55 < rxr> tough I think it does not make a difference 10:56 < CIA-9> rene * r9289 /trunk/package/perl/perl/install.patch.cross: * added the forgotten perl/install.patch.cross 10:56 < mtr> texinfo's configure calls "env -i ... some/other/configure" ... 10:57 < mtr> env -i seems not be a good idea, it is leading to loops in the T2 wrappers 11:03 < CIA-9> rene * r9290 /trunk/package/editors/xemacs-beta/xemacs-beta.desc: * updated xemacs-beta (21.5.20 -> 21.5.21) 11:10 < CIA-9> rene * r9291 /trunk/package/editors/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages.desc: * updated xemacs-packages (2005-01-18 -> 2005-05-05) 11:13 < mtr> .oO: perl does still copy files outside basedir ... 11:14 < mtr> hmm, h2ph might need a "-d destination directory" option ? 11:32 < CIA-9> chris * r9292 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (1.2.0 -> 1.2.4) 11:40 -!- tilix [~ilia@pppoe8.bol.bg] has joined #t2 11:56 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 11:56 < rxr> hey jeru 11:56 < jeru> hi 11:56 < jeru> hi rxr 11:56 < rxr> hi tilix 11:56 < mtr> hi jeru 11:56 < jeru> hi mtr 11:56 < jeru> what did I miss ? ;) 11:58 < jeru> jascha: are you around ? 11:58 < rxr> ouhm - not too much I think 12:01 < tilix> hi 12:02 < jeru> hi tilix 12:16 < rxr> my current system load: 12:16 < rxr> samples| %| 12:16 < rxr> ------------------ 12:16 < rxr> 858189 28.1790 bzip2 12:16 < rxr> 855482 28.0901 no-vmlinux 12:16 < rxr> 632750 20.7766 bunzip2 12:16 < rxr> 196980 6.4679 libc-2.3.4.so 12:16 < rxr> 64828 2.1287 bash 12:16 < rxr> 61397 2.0160 ld-2.3.4.so 12:16 < rxr> 60879 1.9990 libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 12:16 < rxr> 52190 1.7137 libmpg123.so 12:16 < rxr> 47465 1.5585 cc1 12:16 < rxr> 26221 0.8610 Xorg 13:20 < valentin> hm, i found a gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 compiler error 13:24 < rxr> all gcc version have many known issues 13:25 < rxr> what are the details of your situation ? 13:27 < valentin> in a place of the program, when i write *variable for _any_ declared variable, i get a 13:28 < valentin> opt/qt33/include/qpoint.h:160: note: candidates are: const QPoint operator*(const QPoint&, int) 13:28 < valentin> /opt/qt33/include/qpoint.h:163: note: const QPoint operator*(int, const QPoint&) 13:28 < valentin> ... 13:28 < valentin> regardless of the variable type 13:28 < valentin> and the function argument i pass this variable too, has nothing to do with QPoint either ... 13:29 < rxr> h, 13:29 < rxr> hm even 13:29 < valentin> i could workaround that, but it is strange 13:30 < valentin> somehow the compiler takes the dereffering '*' as an object operator 13:30 < valentin> yet there was another error in the text which confused the compiler 13:31 < valentin> but it had nothing to do with any qt widgets in any context 13:31 < valentin> the only QT stuff i use in this source file at all are signals 13:34 < valentin> the main error is, that i used a *variable for an argument where a pointer is expected 13:34 < valentin> so it is infact an error, but the message is nonsense 13:35 < valentin> i have to drive to AH and pretend that i am programming bio stuff ... 13:43 < jeru> rxr: unfortunately perl fails again in trunk 13:48 < mtr> jeru: did get some perl errors this morning too, now it fails cross compiling due to files outside basedir 13:49 < rxr> jeru: I'm just now reference building myself - let it reach 1-perl and we see ,-) 13:50 < rxr> unfortunatly I had to restart, since I got some problems - I removed the ccache for more sane results now ... 13:50 < jeru> mtr: same problem here 13:51 < rxr> valentin: I just mailed kontron and ask if they could lend us a XScale evaluation board ... 13:52 < rxr> valentin: the via contact seems to mostly get something for free 13:52 < rxr> valentin: we exchanged serveral mails already - but in the last mail I asked to clarify what he finally really wants us to do - and if he assumes to get it for free ... 13:54 < rxr> oh a new ssh 13:54 < rxr> I update 13:55 < rxr> oh - it already got updated ... 13:57 < rxr> ah - no 13:57 * rxr confused by status output ... 14:02 < rxr> ok - gpg2 does not run very well on sparc64 8365 root 25 0 9912 1648 1280 R 99.0 1.3 34:00.86 gpgsm 14:13 < CIA-9> rene * r9293 /trunk/package/security/openssh/openssh.desc: * updated openssh (4.0p1 -> 4.1p1) 14:20 -!- tilix [~ilia@pppoe8.bol.bg] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:25 < rxr> http://www.google.com/search?q=cebit+microsoft+gallery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 14:26 < rxr> ^- hit 8 is my photo gallery ... 14:42 < rxr> make: *** [pic-i386/libc.so] Segmentation fault (core dumped) 14:42 < rxr> hm - that is on a ccache removed and otherwise clean build 14:42 < rxr> damn 14:43 < rxr> core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'cmd_wrapper' 14:43 < rxr> oh 14:43 < rxr> cmd_wrapper ... not tooo good 14:46 < valentin> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/60115 14:46 < rxr> valentin: I know 14:46 < rxr> I wrote the golem storry and possted the link here 14:47 < rxr> I already mailed google if porting T2 to Hurd applies with Susan as student ... 14:48 < valentin> but she has to host the project at SourceForge/Tigris/Savannah 14:51 < CIA-9> mtr * r9294 /trunk/package/base/m4/m4.desc: * fixed m4 cross compile: install now uses DESTDIR 15:07 < CIA-9> mtr * r9295 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/ (configure.patch.cross texinfo.conf): 15:07 < CIA-9> * fixed texinfo cross compile: do not spawn configure 15:07 < CIA-9> with an explicit clean environment (env -i ...) 15:12 < rxr> valentin: ? 15:12 < rxr> valentin: he/she just has to contribute to a project ... 15:13 < rxr> I think it is not exlicit that it must be external - but e.g. in gnome or our case just add the the version control system in use ... 15:13 * rxr lunch 15:13 < valentin> All code must go up on a site like SourceForge, Tigris or Savannah to qualify. You may mirror development on your personal infrastructure if you so choose. Alternative sites like CPAN, Vaults of Parnassus and Berlios are also fine choices. 15:13 < valentin> whatever the "also fine" means... 15:22 < jeru> rxr: did your ref build reached 1-perl yet ? 15:28 < rxr> no because it hit the segfaulting cmd_wrapper 15:29 < rxr> valentin: I see no reason to artificially seperate contributing work ... 15:29 < rxr> but I doubt that Google will pay T2 development anyway 15:29 < rxr> tough they could build up their custom HPC this way ... 15:31 < jeru> rxr: do you really trust google ? 15:32 < rxr> define trust? 15:32 < rxr> right now I just try to get 4500$ out of them to fund T2 developemt via their summer code thing ... 15:37 < rxr> hm - seems to be off-by-one bug in the cmd_wrapper 15:37 < rxr> .o(why do I always have to find such sort of crap) 15:38 -!- sparc-kly [~killbox@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has joined #t2 15:40 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 15:44 < rxr> --- misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c (revision 9276) 15:44 < rxr> +++ misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c (working copy) 15:44 < rxr> - for (c3=0; c3<=c1; c3++) 15:44 < rxr> + for (c3=0; c3 ... 15:44 < rxr> test running ... 15:47 < rxr> == 06/01/05 15:44:45 =[1]=> Finished building package dietlibc. 15:47 < CIA-9> rene * r9296 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: * fixed off-by-one error in cmd_wrapper.c - present since ages it seems 15:49 -!- sparc-kly [~killbox@65-23-199-219.prtc.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r9297 /branches/2.1/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: * merged r9296 from trunk: fixed off-by-one error in cmd_wrapper.c 16:07 < madtux> re 16:07 < madtux> mnemoc, will ever wake up? 16:08 < madtux> will u* 16:14 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 16:16 < jeru> .oO( seems that I screwed up my windoze partition on that tiny beast of subnotebook :/ )o 16:17 < valentin> who cares ? 16:18 < jeru> valentin: me ... because I had done some work on it .... which I have to deliver today 16:19 < valentin> screwed the fs or the table ? 16:23 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 16:23 < jeru> arrrgggghhhhh ... f*ck ... this is not my day .... 16:23 < jeru> cu later 16:23 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:30 < rxr> .oO 16:49 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 16:49 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:52 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:55 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 17:03 < rxr> mtr: I can confirm the create outside basedir .. 17:03 < rxr> in 1-perl 17:03 < rxr> do you have a patch or should I ? 17:06 < rxr> ./scripts/Config: line 118: 24118 Segmentation fault (core dumped) "$0" -cfg $config $oldconfig $profile $nobashmod -cycle 17:06 < rxr> ... 17:06 < rxr> day of segfaults ... 17:13 < mtr> rxr: i fixed 1-perl by not installing .ph files in stage 1 17:14 < mtr> shall i commit this fix ? 17:21 < rxr> hm - wait 17:25 < rxr> ouhm - my box is so over busy again ... 17:25 < rxr> damn 17:25 < rxr> need a quad opteron or so ... 17:25 < rxr> cool 17:25 < rxr> http://golem.de/0506/38375.html 17:33 < CIA-9> rene * r9298 /branches/2.1/target/embedded/config.in: * implemented embedded style selection - uclibc or dietlibc 17:33 < CIA-9> rene * r9299 /branches/2.1/target/embedded/config.in: * removed debug cat frlom embedded/config.in 17:35 < rxr> mtr: hm - ok - just commit disabling it for now ,-) 17:41 < CIA-9> mtr * r9300 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * do not install .ph files in stage 1 17:44 < rxr> thanks 17:45 < mtr> rxr: i was not sure about the header files, who might need them? 17:45 < rxr> oh - damn 17:45 < rxr> I was in 2.1 when I commited the embeded code ... 17:45 < rxr> .oO 17:45 < rxr> mnemoc will slap me ... 17:51 < CIA-9> rene * r9301 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * merged r9297 and r9299 from branches/2.1 to trunk 17:52 < mnemoc> .oO 17:52 < rxr> when one talks about the devil ... - hi mnemoc ,-) 17:52 < mnemoc> :) 17:53 < rxr> sorry that the feature got into 2.1 first 17:53 < rxr> my $PWD was biased ... 17:53 < mnemoc> do we have embedded target on 2.1? 17:53 < rxr> looks so 17:53 < rxr> and it is all fine 17:53 < mnemoc> sure? 17:54 < rxr> we could rather rm -rf the router one or the dreamcast one ... 17:54 < rxr> but we could just leave them there as examples ... 17:55 < mnemoc> as far as you consider embedded target stable on 2.1... 17:56 < rxr> I fixed an nice off-by-one this afternoon ... 17:57 < rxr> I removed my whole ccache due to the segfault before I noticed it was cmd_wrapper ... and started from scrach - now my reference is filling the cache again 17:57 < rxr> no idea why we have not noticed earlier ... 17:58 < mnemoc> what segfault? perl/spamassassin? 17:59 < rxr> got a segfault in 1-dietlibc 17:59 < rxr> it was cmd_wrapper out of bound / off-by-one array issue ... 17:59 < rxr> fixed in trunk and 2.1 ... 17:59 < mnemoc> oh 18:00 < rxr> I think the right ammount of arguments is needed to match the glibc block allocation size to trap on that out of bounds access ... 18:02 < mnemoc> i.e. finding it was just luck 18:05 < rxr> experiencing of fixing ? 18:05 < mnemoc> yes :) 18:15 < mnemoc> do you have any idea why debug.sh is not mounting loop and friends anymore? 18:15 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:20 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - I need to review that ... 18:24 < CIA-9> mtr * r9302 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.12.1 -> 1.13.2) 18:25 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFC1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:25 < jeru> re hi 18:25 < mnemoc> mtr: if you update gwenhywfar don't forget it's dependees 18:25 < mnemoc> jeru: hi webmaster 18:25 < jeru> hi stable tree maintainer 18:26 < madtux> hi t2 developers 18:26 < jeru> hi madtux 18:26 < mnemoc> hi T2/{selinux,router} maintainer 18:28 < jeru> .oO( now I know who screwed up the windoze partition on my subnotebook. a collegue thought, that it would be nice for me, if he changes the partition type from vfat to ntfs :/ )o 18:29 < madtux> mnemoc, thats not what the new website says :) 18:29 < jeru> .oO( damn windoze admins )o 18:29 < jeru> madtux: I see, you're on mnemoc's site ;) 18:30 < mnemoc> madtux: new website is under construction, people has to add theirselves 18:30 < mnemoc> jeru: :) 18:30 < mnemoc> jeru: people claim for a new website! 18:30 < madtux> right... i cannot add myself without a login and password 18:30 < jeru> mnemoc: good to see you laughing :) 18:31 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 18:31 < mnemoc> madtux: that's why i kick jeru daily :) 18:31 < jeru> madtux: I can add you! 18:31 < jeru> mnemoc: that's why I kick back daily too 18:32 < madtux> its nice to see how caring we all are with eachother 18:32 < rxr> jeru: why did he mess with your windows ? 18:32 < mnemoc> jeru: you will always have the right to kick back :) but i wont stop kicking first :p 18:32 < jeru> the day mnemoc voted for me as webmaster was a very dark day :) 18:33 < jeru> rxr: I don't know ... guess he wanted to help me improving the performance ... but I didn't ask for it 18:33 < mnemoc> i got two mails about the first sentence on www.t2-p.o ... "T2 is not just a common Linux distribution..." 18:34 < mnemoc> "how do you expect being consider something else than a distribution if you claim to be one" 18:34 < mnemoc> jeru: yeah 18:35 < madtux> do we claim to be a distro? 18:35 < mnemoc> the first line of www.t2-project.org 18:35 < mnemoc> "T2 is not just a common Linux distribution" 18:35 < mnemoc> _just_ 18:36 < mnemoc> we need the CMS working :\ 18:38 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF84EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:38 < jeru> mnemoc: ok ok ... please kick me again, I like it ... 18:39 < jeru> mnemoc: btw, I started a fresh ref build -> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html 18:39 < mnemoc> beware, i can change kicking for spanking 18:39 < madtux> omfg... 18:39 * madtux quickly steps away from mnemoc to a corner 18:40 < mnemoc> :D 18:40 < jeru> madtux: there is no reason for that ;) 18:40 < madtux> oh right... thats exclusive for u 18:40 < madtux> :) 18:41 < mnemoc> jeru: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- this is recient 18:41 < jeru> mnemoc: you know, I've a friend, and he will bite you! :) 18:41 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF8C67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:41 < mnemoc> jeru: :) 18:44 < mnemoc> madtux: take a look into embedded target 18:44 < jeru> mnemoc: and beware, he is much quicker as you! (just a warning before you'll feel too comfortable) 18:44 < jeru> than 18:45 < mnemoc> jeru: i know your tiny friend is fast and bite hard 18:45 < jeru> mnemoc: good :) 18:50 < madtux> u are guys are really scaring me 18:50 < mnemoc> his friend is a nasty rat :) 18:50 < mnemoc> but don't ask me what they do together 18:51 < madtux> plan the world domination? 18:51 < mnemoc> i guess.... at leat i know they don't plan www2 release 18:52 * mnemoc hides 18:52 < madtux> i really like your sutil way to push things 18:52 * mnemoc smiles on the darkness 18:55 < rxr> hm 18:55 < rxr> this nexiuz is dog slow 18:55 < rxr> on my XP 2500+ w/ Radoen 7xxx ... 18:56 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@82.224.107.105] has quit [Client Quit] 18:57 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 19:01 -!- jascha [~jascha@26e1511301c9594c.session.tor] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:17 < rxr> well - ok - in low quality it is playable 19:19 < jeru> re 19:20 < jeru> mnemoc: the "nasty rat" is on the road to chile :) 19:21 < jeru> mnemoc: and he is prepared to fight 19:22 * mnemoc runs 19:22 < madtux> to bite u mean 19:22 < jeru> mnemoc: run run run ... no problem for him ;) 19:23 < _Lewellyn> rxr: how long will you be about? 19:27 < rxr> around ? 19:27 < rxr> well - some more hours - four at least 19:29 < _Lewellyn> ok. i want to get the livecd to finally boot over here ;) 19:30 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: what was it? 19:33 < _Lewellyn> scroll back about 20 hours. :) udev seems to not create a device node for my cd-rom drive. 19:33 < _Lewellyn> the module seems to load. 19:33 < _Lewellyn> also possibly telling is that i have a /dev/tty, but the emergency shell claims that it can't find it. 19:35 < rxr> hm - there is nothing that stop and ide cdrom from showing up in /dev 19:35 < rxr> is it some multi functional device? 19:36 < _Lewellyn> it's a cd-rw/dvd-rom drive 19:36 < rxr> what does this yield for the device: 19:36 < rxr> cat /proc/ide/%k/media 19:36 < _Lewellyn> my sata hdd is showing up as scsi1 19:36 < rxr> where %k is the kernel internal name 19:36 < rxr> the cdrom is not sata ? 19:36 < _Lewellyn> only thing in /proc/ide is drivers 19:36 < _Lewellyn> cdrom is plain atapi 19:37 < _Lewellyn> on a 80-conductor cable 19:37 < rxr> hm - the kernel notified there is a cdrom and there is still no /proc/ide/$kernel-name/... ? 19:37 < _Lewellyn> no. 19:37 -!- jascha [~jascha@cfa806244f5fc7f9.session.tor] has joined #t2 19:37 < rxr> hm 19:37 < _Lewellyn> and drivers shows ide-cdrom 19:38 < rxr> than I can not do much about it ,-) except kernel debugging ... 19:38 < _Lewellyn> since that ramdisk has no lsmod, that's all i have to go by ;) 19:39 < _Lewellyn> if i had a null-modem cable, i'd capture the output via a serial terminal 19:39 < _Lewellyn> it seems to not be acessible any way from that shell, so i can't just stick it on a floppy 19:44 < _Lewellyn> i'm sure that whatever is happening, it's going to be obvious to the right person when they see it. 20:05 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: cat /proc/modules ? 20:08 -!- mipe [~who@k112.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 20:18 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: i'll try that in a few 20:18 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 20:18 < rxr> re 20:36 < rxr> mnemoc: urgent question - alive ? 20:36 < mnemoc> kind of 20:36 < rxr> oh - greatz 20:36 < rxr> mnemoc: do you have a second ? 20:36 < mnemoc> kind of 20:36 < rxr> then - in trunk in scripts/Build-Pkg 20:36 < rxr> line 20:36 < rxr> 608 20:37 < rxr> and 613 20:37 < rxr> have you any idea why the fl_wrparse and find are surrounded by an empty if then : ; fi ? 20:38 < mnemoc> obscure way to || true ? 20:39 < rxr> no idea at all 20:39 < rxr> where is clifford to kick *g* ,-) 20:40 < mnemoc> on the other channel :p 20:40 < rxr> you could ask him there *g* 20:40 < rxr> 1 - then : ; fi 20:40 < rxr> ^- alive since initial import 20:40 < mnemoc> let me checkout their trunk first :p 20:40 < rxr> I could 20:40 < madtux> extend himan invitation to join here 20:41 < mnemoc> i have an important exam in 1:45 hours ... if you can ask him, much better 20:41 < mnemoc> madtux: :) 20:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - learn ... 20:42 < rxr> mnemoc: one of us need a degree ... 20:42 < rxr> mnemoc: their trunk is untouched ... 20:42 < madtux> u don't have a degree either.. 20:42 < madtux> ? 20:42 < rxr> madtux: not yet - but german university of applied science was too boring for me 20:42 < madtux> god... i can't believe how many of us have not finished uni for the same reason 20:43 < rxr> I first get a healthy community and business around T2 running ... 20:44 < mnemoc> i would finish it if i had the money to pay it 20:44 < rxr> madtux: hey - after 4 semesters I still had to write argc/argv parsing code ... 20:44 < rxr> and distributed system was writing basic iptables rules ... 20:44 < madtux> rxr does it mean someday u will give us a job? 20:44 < madtux> uff awefull... 20:45 < madtux> yet much more fun than here :( 20:45 < rxr> fun? 20:45 < rxr> it is not fun applying to such annoying stuff when the desk is full of interesting things ... 20:45 < madtux> way too much .net and similar crap 20:45 < rxr> madtux: maybe some day ,-) 20:45 < mnemoc> rxr: their Build-Pkg has your beloved inline download 20:46 < rxr> hm ? 20:46 < rxr> ah - yes 20:46 < rxr> ,-) 20:46 < rxr> that is cool, isn't it ... 20:46 < rxr> and have you seen this ugly gnome and co skeleton packages? 20:46 < mnemoc> uhm 20:46 < mnemoc> they did what i did for java :p 20:47 < rxr> to get rid of tray dependencies that only get in thru directories - randomly created by various packages ... - and this directory dependency code is an ugly piece of awk code - and guess what - it is so unneeded that it got removed from T2 - and rock invents this cool skeleton packages ... - well 20:48 < mnemoc> different approaches :) 20:48 < rxr> instead of find the root cause, they work around in the uglies possible way 20:48 < rxr> mnemoc: they did not fix it - they worked around it for just gnome ... 20:48 < mnemoc> that has always been rock's way 20:48 < rxr> all the kde and /usr and whatever packages still get random dependencies due to whoever created some i18n or simillar dir first in a given build 20:49 < mnemoc> they will create every foo-dirtree they can need 20:49 < rxr> and this only due to an ugly piece of awk code that is so unreadable that I had to open the oreily awk book to understand it ... 20:49 < rxr> unreadable and totally superflous ... 20:49 < rxr> well - /me back to my problem ... 20:50 < madtux> damn i feel terrible... going back bed see ya in a while 20:50 < mnemoc> madtux: hey! 20:50 < madtux> ? 20:50 < mnemoc> madtux: write selinux target you lazy boy 20:51 < madtux> we agreed to finish the pending work for 2.1 and then i would continue selinux 20:51 < mnemoc> madtux: finish the pending work for 2.1 you lazy boy 20:51 < mnemoc> :) 20:52 < _Lewellyn> ~please? ;) 20:52 < mnemoc> nah 20:52 < mnemoc> :) 20:52 < _Lewellyn> "please" is nicer than just ending with 'you lazy boy' :) 20:52 < mnemoc> .oO( really? )o 20:53 < _Lewellyn> there's some saying here about flies and honey and vinegar. but i tend to forget it ;) 20:54 < mnemoc> http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/youcancatchm.html 20:54 < mnemoc> google remembers 20:55 < madtux> mnemoc, i will but u are the stable tree maintaner ... i will help help as i can :) 20:55 < madtux> i'm just a newbie remember 20:55 < mnemoc> madtux: :( 20:55 < madtux> hey relax i am working on it ok? 20:55 < madtux> just don;t leave it all to me 20:55 < madtux> :) 20:56 < mnemoc> :) 20:56 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <-- 21 of 1670 20:57 < rxr> my ref build of 2.2 is at 3-lvm now 20:57 < mnemoc> nice 20:58 < mnemoc> btw, we need to add libgtkhtml-3.0 which has never been released by needed by gnomesword since one year ago 20:59 < mnemoc> but* 20:59 < mnemoc> and i need to read 270 pages in the next 1:20 21:00 < mnemoc> aaaarg... 21:02 < rxr> then stop chatting and go reading - I wish you much success -) 21:02 < mnemoc> thanks :) 21:03 < mnemoc> i have to buy a pen... 21:03 < jeru> mnemoc: wish you good luck too :) 21:04 < mnemoc> :) 21:04 < jeru> rxr: then 1-perl finished ? 21:04 < rxr> wel - the broken part got disabled builds now 21:04 < rxr> == 06/01/05 21:03:46 =[3]=> Finished building package sysfiles. 21:04 < rxr> 1-perl built on sparc, x86 and embedded-uclibc-arm and embedded-uclibc-x86 21:05 < jeru> ah cool 21:05 < mnemoc> .oO( i want nested targets )o 21:06 < rxr> mnemoc: go learn 21:06 < mnemoc> ok 21:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I got exmatriculed for too much t2 hacking - so go learn - I know the consequences ... 21:07 < mnemoc> oh 21:08 < mnemoc> i'll get unplugged and read on the grass.... 21:08 < mnemoc> cu madtux, rxr, jeru 21:08 < jeru> cu mnemoc 21:09 < mnemoc> i hate marketing 21:09 < mnemoc> cu 21:09 < jeru> but read! not watching women walking by! ;) 21:09 < rxr> ot the sun, birds and sky ... 21:09 < rxr> I just made the build system check created files more strictly 21:10 < rxr> that is not allow created of files beside the allowed top-level directories ... 21:10 < rxr> formerly they would have been ingore (not put into the flist!) silently ... 21:12 < _Lewellyn> hm. /proc/modules on the machine failing to boot just adds more questions :( 21:12 * _Lewellyn will put info on the web later today. i think a few people may be interested in trying to poke at it via the internet. 21:19 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nzg 21:21 < rxr> !> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: xxx 21:21 < rxr> !> + echo '--- BUILD ERROR ---' 21:21 < rxr> ok - looks good 21:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg 21:28 < CIA-9> rene * r9303 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: (log message trimmed) 21:28 < CIA-9> * closed a build system hole: It was possible to inject files beside 21:28 < CIA-9> the allowed top level directories where the files would have been 21:28 < CIA-9> silently ignore before. Now, as like create outside builddir, the 21:28 < CIA-9> files are tracked and the build aborted. (Ever wondered how the 21:28 < CIA-9> unarchived a2ps.* crap got into the build root? ,-) 21:28 < CIA-9> * removed stray error hiding empty if ; then : ;fi statements around 21:58 < valentin> re 22:01 < rxr> hi 22:01 < valentin> hi rxr 22:01 < valentin> r9303 rocks ... 22:03 < rxr> valentin: ? 22:03 < _Lewellyn> i agree 22:05 < rxr> .o(ironic or real ... ?) 22:05 < valentin> i wonder why the person that wrote that wrapper did not fix 22:05 < _Lewellyn> rxr: real 22:06 < rxr> valentin: I like the off-by one trapped today way more ,-) 22:10 < _Lewellyn> i missed that, i think 22:16 < rxr> ouhm - sparc still building - slow horse ... 22:23 < rxr> == 18:18:56 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.5 2.2.0-alpha]. 22:23 < rxr> and still building - as usual 22:25 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9304 /trunk/package/selinux/polgen/polgen.desc: 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated package description text. 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated maintainers email 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated polgen (1.0s -> 1.1) 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:25 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9305 /branches/2.1/package/selinux/polgen/polgen.desc: 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated package description text. 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated maintainers email 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated polgen (1.0s -> 1.1) 22:25 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:26 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9306 /branches/2.1/package/selinux/setools/setools.desc: 22:26 < CIA-9> * updated author information 22:26 < CIA-9> * updated maintainers email 22:26 < CIA-9> * updated setools (2.0 -> 2.1.1) 22:26 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:27 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9308 /trunk/package/selinux/slat/slat.desc: 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated maintainer email 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:27 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9307 /trunk/package/selinux/setools/setools.desc: 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated author information 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated maintainers email 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated setools (2.0 -> 2.1.1) 22:27 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:28 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9309 /branches/2.1/package/selinux/slat/slat.desc: 22:28 < CIA-9> * updated maintainer email 22:28 < CIA-9> * updated download url 22:28 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9310 /trunk/package/selinux/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * updated maintainer email 22:28 < valentin> are we supposed to update 2.1 ? 22:30 < madtux> valentin, relax it won't affect anything there. 22:30 < valentin> ah, you only updated the text info in 2.1 22:30 < valentin> that is ok :) 22:30 < madtux> 2 packages also but they are disabled 22:31 < valentin> ok 22:31 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9311 /branches/2.1/package/selinux/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * updated maintainer email 22:32 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9313 /trunk/target/router/router.txt: * updated maintainer email 22:32 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9312 /branches/2.1/target/router/router.txt: * updated maintainer email 22:33 < jeru> .oO( it seems that mnemoc motivated somebody with his rude behavior ;)o 22:34 < madtux> ;P 22:34 < madtux> maybe it was the rat 22:34 < jeru> :D 22:36 < jeru> madtux: btw, you don't have to fear the rat as long as you give him some food and some devotion ;) 22:39 < madtux> good.. 22:39 < rxr> hm - sparc64 5-glibc still building ... 22:39 < rxr> me crawling into bed - cu early in the morning^W night 22:39 < madtux> rxr, it takes 1/2 a bit.. 22:40 < jeru> rxr: good night 22:40 < rxr> well - ok the box only build on it for 2 hours so far, soo ... 22:40 < rxr> ,-) 22:40 < rxr> cu 22:40 < rxr> n8 all 22:40 < madtux> cya ren 22:42 < _Lewellyn> sleep well 22:50 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9314 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.07 -> 3.08) 22:50 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9315 /trunk/target/router/download.txt: * updated syslinux (3.07 -> 3.08) 22:51 < CIA-9> miguelb * r9316 /trunk/target/bootdisk/download.txt: * updated syslinux (3.07 -> 3.08) 22:56 < jeru> ok ... will go sleep too ... good night 22:57 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFC1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:01 < valentin> gn8 rxr, jeru --- Log closed Thu Jun 02 00:00:56 2005