T2 IRC Log: 2005-06-11

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--- Log opened Sat Jun 11 00:00:59 2005
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00:38 < mnemoc_> hi kleper
00:38 < kleper> hi t2 developers
00:39 < mnemoc_> most are sleeping
00:39 < mnemoc_> morfoh: any news on trac and plone?
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01:15 < SerWou> good evening guys
01:15 < mnemoc_> hi sepp
01:15 < mnemoc_> err
01:15 < mnemoc_> hi SerWou
01:16 < SerWou> hello mnemoc_
01:16 < SerWou> do you know how to setup several ips on one nic ?
01:16 < mnemoc_> you can add as many address you want to any interface
01:17 < mnemoc_> using rocknet or by hand?
01:17 < SerWou> i tryed with stone eth0, eth0:1 eth0:2, etc..
01:17 < mnemoc_> no no
01:17 < SerWou> give me the best advice, i don't know
01:17 < mnemoc_> that was before linux 2.2
01:17 < mnemoc_> using rocknet or by hand?
01:18 < SerWou> i have a dedicaded to an ISP company, they are my friends, i ask them to installed for me a t2
01:18 < SerWou> i bought 5 ips, but i just can put the first one
01:18 < SerWou> rocknet or hand ? what the secure and faster way ?
01:19 < mnemoc_> rocknet
01:19 < mnemoc_> interface eth0(default)
01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.50/24
01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.51/24
01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.52/24
01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.53/24
01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.54/24
01:19 < mnemoc_> gw 200.200.200.1
01:19 < mnemoc_> drop all
01:20 < SerWou> hop hop hop
01:20 < SerWou> easy man
01:20 < mnemoc_> what version of T2 do you have there?
01:20 < SerWou> i don't know what to run rocknet or where i can find it :( ;)
01:21 < SerWou> i have a t2 home made dedicaded to be a webserver
01:21 < SerWou> 2.1.0-rc1
01:21 < mnemoc_> vi /etc/conf/network
01:22 < SerWou> interface eth0
01:22 < SerWou> ip 64.251.xx.xx/24
01:22 < SerWou> gw 64.251.xx.xx
01:22 < SerWou> nameserver 64.251.xx.xx
01:23 < SerWou> so, i add several lines betwen "ip" and "gw"
01:23 < mnemoc_> yes
01:23 < SerWou> lol
01:23 < SerWou> ok
01:23 < mnemoc_> as many as you need
01:23 < SerWou> let's me try ;)
01:24 < mnemoc_> after restarting network, do: ip a s to see the result
01:24 < mnemoc_> btw, it is always recommended to finish an external interface with: drop all
01:25 < SerWou> restarting network : ifconfig eth0 down & ifconfig eth0 up ?
01:25 < mnemoc_> nope
01:25 < mnemoc_> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop
01:25 < mnemoc_> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
01:26 < SerWou> i don't want to do that, i will loose my ssh connection to this server, i don't have physical access to this pc
01:26 < mnemoc_> ok, set them by hand for now
01:26 < mnemoc_> and on the next reboot you will try rocknet config :)
01:27 < SerWou> "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" will do the thing without any problem ?
01:27 < mnemoc_> on linux versions 2.3+ you should use iproute2 instead of ifconfig to set your network
01:27 < mnemoc_> SerWou: not sure
01:27 < SerWou> iproute2
01:27 < SerWou> ok
01:28 < mnemoc_> ip addr add 64.251.xx.xx/24 dev eth0
01:28 < mnemoc_> and ip addr show to see the result
01:28 < SerWou> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
01:28 < SerWou> Shutting down network devices. ......................................................... v
01:28 < SerWou> Interface / profile matched: eth0(default) :-(
01:28 < SerWou> Setting up network devices. ............................................................ v
01:28 < SerWou> Interface / profile matched: eth0(default) :-(
01:29 < mnemoc_> i'm not sure if rocknet is always sad
01:29 < mnemoc_> ip a s
01:30 < SerWou> hum
01:30 < SerWou> what a mess
01:30 < mnemoc_> what?
01:30 < SerWou> got a lot of "network interface" : bond0, dummy0, eql, teql0, tunl0, gre0
01:31 < mnemoc_> ip a s eth0 :)
01:32 < SerWou> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
01:32 < SerWou> link/ether 00:0c:76:bc:8b:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global eth0
01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0
01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0
01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0
01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0
01:32 < mnemoc_> is that what you wanted?
01:32 < SerWou> yes ;)
01:32 < mnemoc_> good :)
01:32 < SerWou> ho
01:33 < SerWou> it complains about the network when i restarted it but it took the ip adresses
01:33 < mnemoc_> try changing your interface declaration to: eth0(default)
01:34 < mnemoc_> i have never seen rocknet happy :p
01:34 < SerWou> in /etc/conf/network ?
01:34 < mnemoc_> yes
01:34 < SerWou> hehe ;)
01:36 < SerWou> sorry, i was watching a webcam striptease video very hot ;
01:36 < SerWou> ;)
01:37 < mnemoc_> ^_^
01:37 < [lewellyn]> serwou is now happy ;)
01:37 < SerWou> http://abrutis.com/ifuckthehatlinker/stripdeouf.wmv
01:37 < [lewellyn]> o O ( ,,,... porn... )
01:37 < SerWou> ^ no linux
01:38 * [lewellyn] will hope his palm can play it in a bit
01:39 < SerWou> still complaining ;)
01:39 < SerWou> whatever
01:39 < SerWou> it works
01:40 < SerWou> Thanks a lot
01:40 < mnemoc_> the striptease worked?
01:40 * SerWou guess mnemoc_ is watching the stip video
01:40 < SerWou> ha sorry ;)
01:40 < SerWou> the network setting
01:40 < mnemoc_> hehe
01:40 < mnemoc_> i can't watch your video here :(
01:40 < SerWou> you can still download it for later
01:41 < mnemoc_> yep :)
01:41 < SerWou> for long winter evening
01:42 < mnemoc_> :)
01:43 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: should i do something to my 2.7.6 instances if i update to 2.8.0-b2?
01:59 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: yuck.... /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory it seems something has changed
01:59 < _Ragnar_> O_O
02:03 < CIA-7> amery * r9612 /trunk/package/zope/zope/ (configure-python24.patch zope.desc): * updated zope (2.7.6 -> 2.8.0-b2)
02:03 < mnemoc_> if someone merge that into 2.1 i kill him
02:03 * mnemoc_ moving home
02:13 < SerWou> see you mnemoc_
02:17 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc_: i have no clue. i haven't used a new version of zope since like 2.7.1 :(
02:17 < [lewellyn]> maybe 2.7.2
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02:38 < mnemoc_> re
02:38 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: :)
02:43 < [lewellyn]> actually, do you HAVE a run.py? :)
02:44 < mnemoc_> on 2.7.6 i had
02:45 < [lewellyn]> ah. what did it do?
02:45 < mnemoc_> run the instance iirc
02:45 < [lewellyn]> um. odd. ok...
02:46 < [lewellyn]> what do the docs say to start the instance in 2.8? :)
02:46 < mnemoc_> the usual mkinstance script
02:46 < mnemoc_> and a run script inside the instance
02:46 < mnemoc_> which seems to be different between 2.7 and 2.8
02:47 < [lewellyn]> unsurprising...
02:47 < [lewellyn]> and, knowing zope, there is no upgrade guide.
02:48 < mnemoc_> CPSSharedCalendar needs zope3 or (Five + zX3)
02:48 < mnemoc_> zope 2.8 includes five and zX3
02:49 < mnemoc_> so, i'll add zX3 to 2.1 and use 2.8 on trunk for 2.2
02:51 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/t2-iso/ if you want to grab it
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05:03 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: ping
05:05 < [lewellyn]> PONG
05:06 < mnemoc_> how path on zope.conf works?
05:06 < mnemoc_> i mean, how should i delimit it to use two entries?
05:06 < [lewellyn]> zope.conf is a 2.7+ thing. never played with it much. sorry :(
05:06 < [lewellyn]> most servers i use are 2.5 and 2.6 still
05:06 < mnemoc_> :(
05:07 < [lewellyn]> sorry :(
05:08 < mnemoc_> i need my zope to load stuff form /opt/zope/lib/pytohn
05:08 < [lewellyn]> where's it trying to load from?
05:08 < mnemoc_> and from /opt/zopex3/lib/pyhon
05:09 < mnemoc_> i need the second
05:09 < mnemoc_> but if i set path to zopex3 i loose zope's
05:09 < [lewellyn]> there's bound to be a way
05:10 < mnemoc_> ':' as delimiter doesn't work
05:10 < mnemoc_> and PYTHONPATH=... ./bin/runzope.py neither
09:25 < rxr> re
09:25 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ !!
09:40 < sepp> moin
09:59 < rxr> hi sepp
10:03 < sepp> hello rxr :)
10:30 < valentin> moin
10:31 < rxr> oh - hi valentin
10:32 < valentin> hi rxr
10:35 < rxr> how was the tea with the midwife?
10:36 < valentin> midwife is ?
10:36 < rxr> hebamme
10:36 < valentin> ah
10:36 < valentin> kerstin says it was nice and informative
10:36 < rxr> didn't you attend ?
10:36 < valentin> i had been @work
10:36 < rxr> oh
10:37 < valentin> but i saw her once before in the hospital
10:38 < valentin> rxr: how is this kde tea timer named ?
10:41 < SerWou> good morning
10:41 < valentin> http://www.lospalmos.net/live-cd-logo.png
10:41 < SerWou> is there a package for proftpd ?
10:41 < valentin> http://www.lospalmos.net/livecd-bootscreen.jpg
10:41 < valentin> moin SerWou
10:41 < SerWou> hello valentin
10:41 < rxr> SerWou: I think so
10:42 < SerWou> i guess so too
10:42 < rxr> valentin: oh my god
10:42 < SerWou> but what is the name ? proftp ? proftpd ? pro-ftpd ?
10:42 < valentin> SerWou: i am searching
10:43 < rxr> hm - or there is no such package yet ...
10:43 < rxr> # ./misc/archive/Find.sh ftp
10:43 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
10:43 < rxr> gnome2/gftp
10:43 < rxr> network/lftp
10:43 < rxr> network/ncftp
10:43 < rxr> network/netkit-ftp
10:43 < rxr> network/obexftp
10:43 < rxr> network/tftp-hpa
10:43 < rxr> network/twoftpd
10:43 < rxr> network/vsftpd
10:43 < rxr> network/wu-ftpd
10:43 < valentin> hm
10:43 < valentin> no proftp whatsoever
10:44 < valentin> ah - kteatime :)
10:44 < valentin> damn, they cheat
10:45 < SerWou> no proftp
10:45 < SerWou> gonna make a .desc ;)
10:46 < SerWou> network/proftpd ?
10:46 < SerWou> think so
10:48 < rxr> yep
10:51 < valentin> rxr: do you want that quit button in the netconf systray ?
10:52 < rxr> I think a quuit button on right click context in the tray is ok
10:53 < valentin> so, /me has to "steal" some code from the tea timer
10:53 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none rsync perl wget commonc++ csync2 whois validator pdnsd smbc
10:53 < rxr> ^- updates scheduled on my side ...
10:57 < SerWou> Packages scheduled to build: none
10:57 < SerWou> but i did a package
10:57 < SerWou> i have to refresh something ?
10:57 < rxr> "I've always found this flag confusing. Now that devfs is no longer around, it"
10:57 < rxr> ^- Greg KH
10:57 < rxr> devfs is gone in some kernel tree now ?
10:58 < rxr> SerWou: Config -oldconfig
10:58 < rxr> the package is not yet in your package list I guess - and Emerge only builds what is in your config/.../packages
10:58 < SerWou> nice
10:59 < rxr> this is due to the sorting by priority - however I consider changing this for the rare corner case a new package is done to schedule non listed packages at the end ...
10:59 < SerWou> it's a good choice
11:00 < rxr> (but we will remove this hard static priority anyway as soon as we have time ...
11:00 < rxr> to do dynamic sorting by dependency graph ...
11:00 < SerWou> dynamic with what ?
11:00 < SerWou> == 06/11/05 10:59:50 =[9]=> Finished building package proftpd ;)
11:00 < rxr> to get rid of the [P] tat's static list number
11:01 < rxr> always let the build system order the packages by the dependency graph they form due to cached .cache depdencies
11:01 < rxr> valentin: here ?
11:01 < SerWou> hum
11:02 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/big.png
11:02 < rxr> ^- linear regression - should I do this in the offical svn.exactcode.de graph ?=
11:02 < rxr> it will look even more drastic when I split by year ,-)!
11:07 < CIA-7> rene * r9613 /trunk/package/network/rsync/rsync.desc: * updated rsync (2.6.4 -> 2.6.5)
11:08 < CIA-7> rene * r9614 /trunk/package/base/wget/ (allow-tilde-in-url.patch wget.desc): * updated wget (1.9.1 -> 1.10)
11:08 < CIA-7> rene * r9615 /trunk/package/network/pdnsd/pdnsd.desc: * updated pdnsd (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
11:10 < valentin> rxr: please do not put that in the official graph... :)
11:10 < rxr> why ?
11:11 < valentin> then you had to restrict the data down to the split date
11:11 < valentin> using two different lines for the same data shows how unscientific those regressions are
11:12 < valentin> second point is, that we cannot catch up our own line if we take this as a trend
11:12 < valentin> in other words, the t2 line will definitly flatten over the time
11:16 < CIA-7> rene * r9616 /trunk/package/network/validator/validator.desc: * updated validator (1.2 -> 1.3.4.12)
11:16 < CIA-7> rene * r9617 /trunk/package/network/smbc/smbc.desc: * updated smbc (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
11:17 < CIA-7> rene * r9618 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.0 -> 4.7.5)
11:17 < CIA-7> rene * r9619 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.3.10 -> 1.3.11)
11:40 < rxr> re
11:41 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live.png
11:41 * rxr showering and off ...
12:05 < rxr> re
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12:27 < rxr> [RFC] Patch series to remove devfs [00/22]
12:29 < valentin> rxr: T-net ??
12:30 < rxr> hehe ,-)
12:30 < rxr> just joking
12:30 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/live/
12:30 < valentin> we pay for this t-net shit ...
12:30 < valentin> ok
12:30 < valentin> rxr: saw that
12:31 < rxr> pay ?
12:31 < valentin> t-net standard
12:31 < rxr> what do you mean with pay ?
12:31 < valentin> the telekom's base tarif
12:33 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/live/
12:33 < rxr> better=?
12:33 * rxr off soon now ...
12:33 < rxr> ok - sparc64-32 build progressing ...
12:33 < rxr> == 09:30:16 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.3 2.2.0-alpha].
12:33 < rxr> nice nice
12:34 < valentin> yeah
12:34 < valentin> cu rxr
12:39 < rxr> off - cu
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13:52 < morfoh> hi all
13:55 < CIA-7> chris * r9620 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver patch for linux26 kernels (vs2.0-rc3 -> vs2.0-rc4)
13:58 < valentin> hi son of king
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13:59 < herve> hi
14:00 < herve> morfoh, ping
14:00 < valentin> hi herve
14:01 < morfoh> valentin: hi valentin, herve :)
14:01 < morfoh> herve: pong
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14:28 < herve> bye
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14:37 < valentin> hm, he seemed very eager to speak to you...
14:40 < morfoh> valentin: no! we had a talk ;)
14:40 < rxr> re
14:40 < morfoh> valentin: he's helping me with the web stuff ;)
14:41 < morfoh> hi rxr
14:41 < rxr> hi all
14:42 < valentin> hi rxr
14:52 < valentin> rxr: some more requests for netconf besides the tray bar profile switching ?
14:52 < valentin> and maybe some better layouting
14:53 < valentin> a 'copy profile' function would be nice imo
14:53 < rxr> I would like if if this activate vs. ok would be resolved
14:53 < rxr> and close could be removed
14:53 < rxr> and, ...
14:54 < rxr> e.g. make ok save - so it is obvious that it is not activated or so
14:54 < valentin> rxr: there is only canel and save now
14:54 < rxr> ah - is
14:54 < valentin> even had been in your screenshot-version iirc
14:54 < rxr> yes yes all fine
14:54 < valentin> :)
14:54 < rxr> what about renaming "appply to this profile" into "enable in this profile" or so ?
14:55 < rxr> and susan noticed that often the profile name is truncated in the combo box
14:55 < valentin> yes, that is what i count under 'cosmetics'
14:56 < valentin> same for this check problem, where unchecked items are ragged-left
14:56 < valentin> currently i am searching why the traybar menu items are not filed at the position i want them
14:56 < valentin> but i found kteatime makes a similar thing
14:58 < rxr> why do yi get unknown network card on all boxes
15:01 < valentin> try ethtool -i
15:01 < rxr> I know - sungem for eth0 - but still not in netconf
15:02 < valentin> as user or root ?
15:02 < rxr> do you execute it as user?
15:02 < valentin> ouhm, yes
15:02 < rxr> -bash: ethtool: command not found
15:02 < valentin> /sbin/ethtool
15:02 < valentin> /usr/sbin/ethtool
15:02 < valentin> ok, as a user you have no permissions
15:02 < rxr> /usr/sbin/ethtool
15:03 < valentin> i will rename netconf-copy to netconf-helper
15:03 < valentin> and place all the stuff there
15:03 < rxr> $ /usr/sbin/ethtool -i eth0
15:03 < rxr> Cannot get driver information: Operation not permitted
15:12 < valentin> so, at least the profiles appear at the corret position in the context menu now...
15:13 < valentin> back in some minutes...
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17:14 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
17:14 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005]
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18:18 < mnemoc> moin
18:19 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :)
18:20 < mnemoc> hi mofroh
18:23 < mnemoc> morfoh: zope3 or zopex3? (package and prefix)
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18:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: uhm? do you want to package it?
18:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'd vote for zope3
18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: ok
18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html#zopex3
18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: i was thinking in having 2.7 and 3.0 on 2.1 and 2.8 and 3.x on trunk
18:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: it seems that my test box at work freezed :/
18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: what do you think?
18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: :(
18:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've nothing against it ,)
18:27 < mnemoc> morfoh: there is a cgishell somewhere you could add to that machine and remain unnoticed
18:27 < mnemoc> over https of course
18:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: pssst ... ;)
18:27 < mnemoc> :)
18:28 < mnemoc> how is trac/plone going?
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18:29 < mnemoc> hi mtr_
18:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm on trac right now ;)
18:30 < mnemoc> i roasted my thumb :(
18:30 < morfoh> oh! how ?
18:32 < mnemoc> doing eags
18:32 < mnemoc> and i pressed hard o_O
18:32 < morfoh> hehe .... :) sorry
18:32 < mnemoc> rxr_: minimal desktop has libxslt but not libxml, what is wrong? libxml or libxslt?
18:33 < rxr_> re
18:33 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:34 < rxr> ouhm - I do not know off hand - maybe better add libxml ,-)
18:34 < morfoh> does somebody knows an alternative ssl library than the fat openssl?
18:34 < morfoh> I've found matrixssl -> http://www.matrixssl.org/download.html
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18:34 < morfoh> but download requires to fill out a form
18:36 < mnemoc> ipsvd use matrixssl, so i guess that's the only alternative
18:37 < mnemoc> This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals).
18:37 < mnemoc> stupid jankies
18:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack :/
18:38 < mnemoc> junkies i mean :p
18:38 < mnemoc> sorry _Lewellyn
18:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: jankies is a good description ;)
18:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: or we should better use jankie administration
18:40 < morfoh> or government
18:42 < mnemoc> people has the government they deserve, sadly
18:44 < mnemoc> bolivia is the best example of that :|
18:44 < mnemoc> more than 1.0 president per year average since their independence
18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: m104 java-less works fine?
18:46 < valentin> hi mnemoc
18:47 < mnemoc> hi valentin
18:47 < valentin> have to go buy some food for the weekend
18:47 < valentin> bbl
18:47 < mnemoc> cu valentin
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19:04 < mnemoc> hi [lewellyn]
19:10 < CIA-7> amery * r9621 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * fixed minimal-desktop template, libxml2 package is named libxml, not libxml2
20:23 < CIA-7> amery * r9622 /branches/2.1/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * merged 9621 from 2.1.0-rc1: fixed minimal-desktop to use the right name of libxml
20:24 < CIA-7> amery * r9623 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * merged 9621 from 2.1.0-rc1: fixed minimal-desktop to use the right name of libxml
20:31 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: you're busy this morning/afternoon
20:31 < CIA-7> amery * r9624 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/mime-type-remove.diff: * merged 9546 from 2.1: changed sun-{jre,jdk}-150 to not install gnome registry stuff, then they wont share those files. (dumb but works)
20:32 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: uhm?
20:32 < [lewellyn]> lots of checkins
20:33 < mnemoc> lots? nah
20:33 < [lewellyn]> 4 since my client reconnected.
20:33 < [lewellyn]> that's like 1 every 15 mins :)
20:33 < mnemoc> over 20 are 'lots' :)
20:34 < [lewellyn]> ya. i had a funn massive checkin a week ago here at work
20:34 < [lewellyn]> huge log message affecting like 30 files across a half dozen directories.
20:34 < mnemoc> hehe
20:34 < [lewellyn]> plus a few misc checkins to make sure the first batch would build :)
20:34 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/t2-iso/ <-- minimal-pmmx-2.1.0-rc1.iso
20:34 < [lewellyn]> and we use cvs, so each directory generated an email :)
20:35 < [lewellyn]> i'll grab it and see if it boots in a few.
20:35 < mnemoc> it's installable, not livecd
20:36 < [lewellyn]> well, ya. but i need to make sure it can read the cd, which the livecd does not
20:36 < mnemoc> :)
20:36 < [lewellyn]> in fact, i am going to find a way to get that thing to give me useable output in a bit.
20:46 < CIA-7> amery * r9625 /trunk/package/network/hostap/ (pkg_linux24_post.conf pkg_linux24benh_post.conf): * merged 9523 from 2.1: changed hostap to not extend linux24 or linux24benh before stage 2
20:53 < CIA-7> amery * r9626 /trunk/package/java/tomcat/tomcat.conf: * merged 9524 from 2.1: decustmainized tomcat and changed to install at opt/tomcat
21:00 < CIA-7> amery * r9627 /trunk/package/games/xblasttnt/xblasttnt.conf: * merged 9525 from 2.1: fixed xblasttnt to not install at /usrgames/
21:30 < CIA-7> amery * r9628 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): * merged 9520 from 2.1: changed bootdisk to build (but not install) ccache
21:36 < CIA-7> amery * r9629 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * merged 9496 from 2.1: moved gnomesword to attic until we get libgtkhtml3
21:36 < [lewellyn]> you're about halfway to "a lot" ;)
21:36 < [lewellyn]> btw, the iso is almost done downloading
21:37 < mnemoc> i should have moved it away of my DSL before promoting it :p
21:37 < [lewellyn]> :)
21:38 < [lewellyn]> give it to rene to host ;)
21:38 < [lewellyn]> then its' not your dsl, at least! :)
21:39 < mnemoc> that's the plan, but rene has been quite away :(
21:39 < valentin> re
21:39 < valentin> what, how, who ?
21:40 < valentin> www is hosted on my dsl line, not rxr's
21:40 < [lewellyn]> where, why, when?
21:40 < mnemoc> :)
21:40 < [lewellyn]> :)
21:40 < valentin> hy [lewellyn]
21:40 < mnemoc> gsmp....
21:40 < [lewellyn]> even better! ;)
21:40 < [lewellyn]> hoi valentin
21:40 < valentin> gsmp is at the university
21:44 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: fwiw, your dsl is no slower than the bell-labs server i'm downloading something else from :)
21:45 < mnemoc> :)
21:45 < mnemoc> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=67 <--- these guys are amazing
21:46 < valentin> wow
21:47 < valentin> is this realy a streat paint or digitally edited ?
21:47 < mnemoc> i trust it's streat paint, that and the others
21:51 < valentin> mnemoc: this is a porn page ...
21:51 < [lewellyn]> valentin: oh? where do i click to see the porn?
21:51 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photox.php
21:52 < [lewellyn]> well, if you click the "Photos X" link instead of the "Photos" link... :)
21:53 < valentin> ah, there is a photo section
21:54 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=830 <- is this real ?
21:54 < mnemoc> oh
21:55 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=271 <- another cool streetpaint
21:55 < mnemoc> valentin: nah... that's edited
21:56 < mnemoc> valentin: i didn't noticed the porn part on topbar
21:57 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: don't bother. they seem to want to charge
21:57 < mnemoc> hehe
21:57 < mnemoc> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=298 <--- which is the fake?
21:58 < [lewellyn]> some would guess the one on the rigth
21:58 < [lewellyn]> but i'll be different!
22:00 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: it seems you finished melting my office's DSL :)
22:01 < [lewellyn]> so i did!
22:01 < [lewellyn]> yay!
22:01 * [lewellyn] is still attacking bell-labs though
22:01 < [lewellyn]> and rene for the livecd :)
22:01 * [lewellyn] is going to be amused when he looks at the office bandwidth chart later
22:02 < [lewellyn]> the lan chart should be nice too, since my homedir is on nfs :)
22:02 < rxr> re
22:03 < [lewellyn]> re :)
22:03 < [lewellyn]> rxr: large changes to the livecd since my last rsync...
22:03 < mnemoc> rxr: how should i upload .iso-s?
22:05 < rxr> to gsmp ?
22:05 < rxr> well - I need a new hardisc
22:06 < rxr> currently each file needs a tripple md5sum and mv $x.defect when it hits a bad sector ....
22:06 < mnemoc> outch
22:06 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=838
22:06 < valentin> haha
22:08 < mnemoc> :)
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22:10 < CIA-7> amery * r9630 /trunk/package/zope/zope3/ (. configure-python24.patch zope3.conf zope3.desc): * added zope3 (3.0.0)
22:21 < [lewellyn]> this is kind of depressing :(
22:21 < [lewellyn]> http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050527.html
22:21 < [lewellyn]> (mainly because i don't have kids...)
22:23 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: where can i get a copy of minimal-2.1.0-rc1-pmmx_index.txt, btw :)
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22:23 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: ok, i'l revive it
22:24 < [lewellyn]> i just need the one file. :)
22:24 < mnemoc> t2-iso is up again
22:26 < CIA-7> amery * r9631 /branches/2.1/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * merged 9113 from trunk: updated ooo (1.9-m100 -> 1.9-m104)
22:26 < [lewellyn]> got it. thanks :)
22:28 < valentin> damn, even my konqueror settings dialog is broken
22:31 < rxr> re
22:38 < rxr> http://www.schultz-net.dk/grub.html
22:43 < [lewellyn]> rxr: going to get t2's up there? :)
22:45 < mnemoc> sepp_ is our designer :)
22:46 < [lewellyn]> yes, but rxr brought forth the url :)
22:55 < rxr> sepp_: awake ?
23:00 < sepp_> yes
23:00 < rxr> ah - cool ,-)
23:00 < sepp_> still trying to understand DR*
23:00 < rxr> we need to work on some real logo for t2 - now that we will make even more pr
23:01 < sepp_> yes
23:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: hi, how is trac thing going?
23:02 < sepp_> if someone has a idea for "real" please inspire me :)
23:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have a fresh plone-2.1-svn and five (zx3 compatilibity) on the machine you know, if you want and account to play
23:04 < valentin> http://t2.lanl.gov/
23:05 < sepp_> radioactive linux?
23:05 < sepp_> :)
23:05 < mnemoc> hehe
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23:05 < mnemoc> vw t2, i simple tool to drive your future :p
23:05 < valentin> nuclear SDE
23:05 < mnemoc> a*
23:06 < CIA-7> chris * r9632 /trunk/package/python/itools/ (. itools.desc): * added itools (0.9.0)
23:06 < sepp> what is vw t2 ?
23:06 < mnemoc> a truck
23:06 < CIA-7> chris * r9633 /trunk/package/zope/ihotfix/ (. ihotfix.desc): * added iHotfix (0.6.0)
23:07 < [lewellyn]> only VWs we have here are cars...
23:07 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m221.htm
23:07 < sepp> a this one
23:07 < CIA-7> chris * r9634 /trunk/package/zope/ikaaro/ (. ikaaro.desc): * added ikaaro (0.14.0)
23:08 < sepp> did not know that this is called t2
23:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is your plan with the zope-2.1-svn + five thing ?
23:09 < mnemoc> cpssharedcalendar for conosur
23:09 < mnemoc> but... big machine for doing just that
23:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: ic
23:09 < [lewellyn]> heh. we know those as "hippymobiles" here :)
23:09 < mnemoc> hehe
23:10 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m261.htm <-- did isn't ver hippy
23:10 < mnemoc> this*
23:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you know about hippies ?
23:11 < mnemoc> nothing
23:11 < morfoh> :D
23:12 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m265.htm <--- but i can't imagine one inside this one
23:12 < morfoh> nah! :D
23:12 < sepp> you have to paint flowers on the car ...
23:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: a hippy would never wear camouflage look ;)
23:13 < mnemoc> :)
23:13 < [lewellyn]> http://cane.toadstool.se/photos/2003/03/16-Columbia,SC-PaddyWagens_VW_Bus_Campout/
23:13 < [lewellyn]> urk. that url was too long
23:14 < morfoh> http://cane.toadstool.se/p/2003/03/16-Columbia,SC-PaddyWagens_VW_Bus_Campout/24-Easter_Hippy_Bus.JPG
23:15 < [lewellyn]> http://66.34.72.138/gallery/image/1202.JPG
23:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: does build tidy on 2,1 ?
23:16 < morfoh> it fails here :/
23:16 < [lewellyn]> those look to be similar to the ones on the armyvehicles.dk site :)
23:17 < [lewellyn]> heh. the hippymobiles even made it to the conversatron
23:17 < [lewellyn]> http://conversatron.com/archive/4082.html
23:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: yes, it did
23:19 < [lewellyn]> http://eddy-da-pimp.tripod.com/id15.html search for "hippy bus"
23:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ?
23:19 < [lewellyn]> i find it ironic that the peacenik hippies drove the same vehicles as the danish army
23:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: tidy built here
23:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes I understood ... I was just asking myself why it isn't build on my local machine
23:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: what the logs say?
23:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: build now :)
23:30 < mnemoc> without changes?
23:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I rebuilded python
23:31 < mnemoc> uhm
23:31 < CIA-7> rene * r9635 /trunk/package/graphic/barcode/ (. barcode.cache barcode.conf barcode.desc): * added barcode (0.98)
23:32 < CIA-7> rene * r9636 /trunk/package/kde/kbarcode/ (. kbarcode.cache kbarcode.desc): * added kbarcode (1.9.6)
23:33 < morfoh> [lewellyn]: seems that the hippies are the best christians regarding their vehicles -> Bible: Micha 4,3 "and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; "
23:34 < [lewellyn]> the hippies were good at living up to the bible, whether inadvertently or not
23:40 < valentin> i.e. scrificing oxes ? ,)
23:40 < valentin> sacrifice even
23:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you want an account?
23:41 < [lewellyn]> i'm sure that they sacrificed any number of things
23:41 < [lewellyn]> probably even a few virgins!
23:42 < valentin> hehe
23:45 < valentin> everyone lives after the old testament in some way. there is so much stuff in there...
23:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes
23:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: just use the one we used before ;)
23:47 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's a new instance
23:48 < mnemoc> valentin: adding misna and kabala it gets far more interesting... at least to me :)
23:50 < valentin> what was misna again ?
23:51 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/t2-dead.jpg
23:51 < sepp> ok no new logo :(
23:51 < valentin> dead ?
23:52 < sepp> yes not live
23:52 < mnemoc> valentin: torah -> misna -> 2 x talmud
23:54 < valentin> i am not very good at remembering hebrew name
23:54 < mnemoc> torah is the 'bible'
23:56 < valentin> i thought tora is just a part of the tanach
23:56 < valentin> the five books of s
23:56 < mnemoc> it was _the_ book once
23:56 < valentin> moses
23:57 < mnemoc> they love to complement and comment their books
23:58 < valentin> ah - misna is mischna in german
23:59 < mnemoc> :)
23:59 < mnemoc> Mishnah on some places
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