--- Log opened Mon Jun 20 00:00:00 2005 00:13 < sepp> it should output the changed files 00:15 < _Ragnar_> rxr: I'm still getting those errors even in embedded 00:15 < _Ragnar_> what could that be? O_O 00:29 < keinek> where is the stable version of t2? 00:29 < keinek> i cant find there in the web page. 00:30 < mnemoc> keinek: http://t2.geeks.cl:6969/ 00:30 < keinek> a need the svn 00:30 < keinek> mnemoc, what Fu**!! dont appear in the web page! 00:30 < mnemoc> keinek: rene will announce it today, i guess 00:30 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_, rxr, keinek btw :p 00:30 < keinek> if you, and the rest are sleeping what the hell should i do? 00:31 < mnemoc> hit your head on the monitor three times 00:31 < keinek> i will i will. 00:32 < sepp> the last 48h my bt client shared nothing :( 00:32 < keinek> use mldonkey sepp 00:32 < keinek> that work fine. 00:33 < keinek> or ... hit your head on the monitor three times, sometimes works :P 00:34 < mnemoc> :) 00:34 < mnemoc> brb 00:34 < sepp> hit the tft or crt? 00:34 < keinek> do you know what s.o.s. means? 00:35 < sepp> me? yes 00:35 < keinek> what means? 00:35 < keinek> 10 00:35 < keinek> 9 00:35 < keinek> 8 00:35 < keinek> 7 00:36 < keinek> 6 00:36 < keinek> 5 00:36 < keinek> 4 00:36 < keinek> 3 00:36 < keinek> 2 00:36 < keinek> 1 00:36 < sepp> save our souls 00:36 < keinek> just in time! 00:36 < keinek> Right! 00:39 < keinek> sepp: you have won a wassup cat 00:39 < keinek> http://www.red-handed.com.ar/wassup/ 00:40 < keinek> enjoy it 00:40 < sepp> hmm i do not understand the read text :( 00:40 < sepp> red* 00:41 < keinek> that means "join the clan of red-handed cat, put this picture in your messenger" 00:41 < keinek> but that was not important 00:41 < keinek> only the picture is funny. 00:42 < sepp> but i use irssi 00:42 < sepp> but it is a nice cat picture :) 00:43 < keinek> yeah! 00:43 < keinek> you cant hear the sound? 00:44 < keinek> you need firefox and the flash plugins 00:44 < sepp> yes 00:44 < keinek> WASSSUUUUUUP! 00:44 < keinek> :P 00:45 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.14.203] has quit ["Abandonando"] 00:46 < sepp> but i have a cat allergy - sniff 00:57 < mnemoc> :) 01:03 < sepp> would it be a legal problem to include flash - i font like it but there are so many sites that require the flash plugin :( 01:06 < sepp> uhm i talked too much with lawyers lately 01:07 < mnemoc> there are gpl flash plugins 01:07 < mnemoc> and we can also include the 'real' ones as far as we don't mirror the files and don't distribute ISOs with it 01:08 < mnemoc> as we do with sun java 01:10 < mnemoc> i told rene about this issue, but he don't like flash and he wont add the package. but you can send a patch, the 'problem' is that none of us has expent time on this 01:11 < sepp> i dont really care but without flash i often feel like with only 1 leg 01:12 < mnemoc> same do i 01:12 < mnemoc> i would also need java plugin to use my bank' site :\ 01:16 < sepp> i dont like flash but some users with only one finger like it :'( 01:17 < sepp> and i always find flash only sites 01:18 < mnemoc> that's why i told rene we needed flash on livecd :) 01:20 -!- Postal [~live@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:23 < sepp> i crawl into bed now 01:23 < sepp> good night all 01:23 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 01:59 < valentin> re 02:07 < mnemoc> re valentin 02:09 < valentin> hi mnemoc 02:28 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-159.prtc.net] has joined #t2 02:38 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.19] has joined #t2 02:41 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.73] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:41 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 02:52 < valentin> gn8 02:58 < mnemoc> n8 valentin 03:21 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.13.60] has joined #t2 03:21 < keinek> hi 06:56 < mnemoc> *yawn* 06:57 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.13.60] has quit ["Abandonando"] 06:59 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.60] has joined #t2 06:59 < keinek> hi 06:59 < mnemoc> hi keinek 06:59 < keinek> mnemoc 06:59 < keinek> i was lost all my system 06:59 < keinek> :( 06:59 < keinek> 60 gigas of anime. 06:59 < keinek> :( 06:59 < keinek> configs... logs... mails... 07:00 < keinek> for play with the partition with software privative. 07:00 < _Ragnar_> O_O 07:00 < _Ragnar_> :/ 07:00 < keinek> i need the command svn for stable trunk. 07:00 < keinek> i need download all the sources again :( 07:00 < keinek> T2 now is running again, and work fine :) 07:01 < keinek> but i need the tree 07:01 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable 07:01 < keinek> thanks mnemoc 07:01 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk t2-trunk 07:01 < keinek> that info is in any place? 07:02 < mnemoc> http://www.t2-project.org/download.html 07:03 < keinek> in this page only the trunk 07:03 < keinek> no stable 07:04 < keinek> mnemoc tell me. 07:04 < keinek> i was lost my red-handed target. 07:04 < keinek> The trunk that use for create that target, is in the target?? 07:04 < keinek> in any part? 07:05 < keinek> i thanks god... i found it in another computer 07:05 < keinek> := 07:05 < keinek> :) 07:06 < mnemoc> :) 07:08 < mnemoc> https://www2.t2-project.org/download/2.1/ 07:08 < keinek> and how you arriba to that page? 07:08 < keinek> arrive* 07:10 < mnemoc> openning firefox 07:10 < mnemoc> writting https://www2.t2-project.org on 'address' 07:10 < mnemoc> click in download 07:10 < mnemoc> click in stable branch 07:10 < keinek> :) 07:10 < keinek> ok 07:32 < mnemoc> gn8 07:50 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 07:50 < minto> moin 08:07 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:07 -!- SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 09:17 < rxr> re 09:17 < _Ragnar_> re 09:18 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_ 09:18 < _Ragnar_> moin rene 09:41 < _Ragnar_> O_O 09:41 < _Ragnar_> why is module-init-tools compiled with dietlibc? 10:04 < valentin> moin 11:09 < rxr> rehi 11:09 < rxr> valentin: I have not brought the cards yet 11:09 < rxr> the hall was too much crowded and I need more research first 11:09 < rxr> ouhm - if this monitor continues to blink around colorly I buy a TFT today ... 11:12 < valentin> hi rxr 11:14 < rxr> hi valentin 11:17 < rxr> ouhm - damn CRT ... 11:18 < rxr> damn - now I even can't sell it anymore ... 11:18 < rxr> for say 10EUR ... 11:25 < rxr> http://www.saturn.de/frontend/offer/index.cfm?fa=show_details_agr&navi=offer&subnavi=detail&prod_id=1134300&grp_id=371000011&sub_grp_id=371000015&location=25 11:25 < rxr> ? 11:25 < rxr> price is ok 11:27 < rxr> hm - but only has a VGA input ... 11:50 < valentin> rxr: ah - you either pay 2*29 Eur for both directions or 39 Eur single travel 11:50 < valentin> so we should think about the date of return buy both directions ? 11:51 < valentin> have to leave now, cu later 11:52 < rxr> cu 12:04 < rxr> minto: hi 12:04 < rxr> minto: should I rather come tomorrow or so - or is friday early enough 12:04 * rxr shortly away 12:04 < rxr> minto: see mail anyway ,-) 12:50 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.60] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:58 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:44 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 13:44 < azureus> moin 13:57 < azureus> Is anyone here? 13:58 < rxr> re 14:02 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.206.31.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:09 < valentin> re 14:11 < valentin> rxr: do you know that kde allows runtime switching of display resolution (though it seems to be a bit experimental) 14:11 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 14:14 < valentin> rxr: live cd runs without problems on a dell inspiron 8600 14:14 < valentin> but the resolution grabbing could be a bit more clever and detect 16:9 display geometry 14:15 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.197.205.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:17 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 14:17 < azureus> re 14:24 -!- azureus is now known as azureus_afk 14:26 < rxr> re 14:26 < rxr> valentin: you do not have time to shorly visit me after your work ? 14:26 < rxr> I wonder if it are my eyes or the TFT that flickers in some grey tones 14:26 < rxr> susan does not see it ... 14:26 < valentin> rxr: hm 14:26 < rxr> valentin: yes 14:26 < rxr> valentin: kde has a randr applet 14:26 < rxr> you can runtime switch the res 14:27 < rxr> xrandr is the text frontend shipped with X 14:27 < valentin> if it will be not too late today i could come and take a look 14:27 < rxr> if the display does not propose some 16:9 res X will not pick it .. 14:27 < rxr> ok 14:27 < rxr> or sometime else 14:27 < valentin> this randr applet displays the odd resolutions 14:27 < rxr> I have 14 day bring back due to picked at saturn 14:42 -!- azureus_afk is now known as azureus 14:47 < mnemoc> moin 14:47 < azureus> hello mnemoc 14:49 < valentin> moin mnemoc 14:54 < rxr> moin mnemoc 14:54 < mnemoc> moin azureus, valentin, rxr 15:01 < rxr> mnemoc: can you post links of the regressions I should look into first ? 15:03 < mnemoc> just the new, or a priorized list considering all? 15:03 < rxr> the ones with topdir or other stricted checking erros or that are important to you 15:03 < rxr> if you like prio them all ,-) 15:04 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-gst-plugins.err 15:04 < mnemoc> that produce a chain of 5 errors 15:07 < rxr> okok 15:08 < mnemoc> rxr: what about the announcemente? 15:08 < mnemoc> :p 15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: I wanted your ok - and you have been missing yesterday 15:08 < rxr> are the available ISOs test installed and all well =? 15:09 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/ 15:09 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0219.jpg 15:10 < rxr> ^- my new, lighter desk 15:10 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0217.jpg 15:10 < rxr> ^- intermediate test before throwing the CRTs away 15:10 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0179.jpg 15:10 < rxr> ^- thy CRTs alone ,-) 15:11 < mnemoc> :) 15:11 < mnemoc> i installed, on qemu, successfully both minimal-pmmx and desktop-p4, but i didn't tested further 15:12 < rxr> the 2nd display I brougth in my life - the first was this 17" CRT that can do 1600x1200 - was 1400DM ~ 700EUR or so years ago... 15:12 < rxr> and it was only defective - damn thing ... 15:12 < mnemoc> nice 15:12 < rxr> all the other crappy CRTs made it to me for free ... 15:12 < mnemoc> uhm? 15:13 < rxr> yes ? 15:13 < mnemoc> new for free, or used? 15:13 < mnemoc> yes what? 15:13 < rxr> used of course 15:13 < rxr> the 21" one was luck when I was a apprentice 15:14 < rxr> and another 20" or so CRT with a SUN this year 15:14 < rxr> but I think I'll get rid of it, too 15:14 < rxr> they waste too much space and energy 15:14 < rxr> and the Sun one needs about 10 minutes to heat up before the picture stopps scrolling thru and is reasonable clear ... 15:14 < mnemoc> oh 15:21 < rxr> yeah - Sun experience ,-) 15:25 < mnemoc> :) 15:39 < rxr> cu a bit later /me grabbing the fixed iBook @ gracis - cu 15:39 < rxr> gravis even 15:39 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-159.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:41 -!- azureus [~t6@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:42 < valentin> cu rxr and do not forget our tickets ! 16:11 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.60] has joined #t2 16:11 < keinek> morning 16:11 < mnemoc> moin keinek 16:21 < mnemoc> keinek: did t2@bt worked for you? 16:24 < rxr> hi 16:24 * rxr at gravix 16:24 < rxr> gravis ... 16:24 < rxr> on some very huge TFT ... 16:24 < rxr> 30" or so ..l 16:24 < rxr> onlz worth 3000EUR ... 16:25 < mnemoc> only? 16:25 < rxr> seems to be at 2560 x 1600 ... 16:25 < mnemoc> rene.rebe@intel.com will buy two 16:26 < rxr> buy _ 16:26 < rxr> ? even 16:27 < rxr> valentin: if you post deails about what train to take in the next 30 minuets or so I cagrab it in this ssh ... 16:27 < mnemoc> get :) 16:27 < rxr> cu later 16:27 < mnemoc> cu 16:27 < rxr> mnemoc: get ? 16:29 < valentin> rxr: still there ? 16:34 -!- azureus [~azureusLa@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 16:37 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 16:39 -!- mipe [~mika@h90.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 16:54 < keinek> mnemoc, what is t2@bt? 16:54 < mnemoc> t2 at bittorrent 16:57 < keinek> no 17:02 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:02 -!- azureus [~azureusLa@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:03 < rxr> re 17:03 -!- azu1 [~hfsjdi@dtm9-d9bbcf61.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 17:04 < rxr> did I mention 30" are big .... ?? 17:05 < mnemoc> :) 17:20 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178160214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:20 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 17:20 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005] 17:20 [Users #t2] 17:20 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-12] [ lewellyn] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 17:20 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ sepp ] 17:20 [ azu1 ] [ keinek] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou] 17:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:20 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 17:20 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 17:20 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 17:36 -!- rxr [rene@e178153087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:45 < _Ragnar_> moin 17:50 -!- Netsplit tolkien.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, valentin, minto, SerWou, keinek, azu1, lewellyn, _Ragnar_, CIA-12, mipe, (+5 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 18:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: minto, azu1, mipe, keinek, sepp, SerWou, mnemoc, CIA-12, mtr_, jsaw (+5 more) 18:10 < rxr_> re 18:10 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:10 < rxr> so - new TFT display and repaired iBook 18:10 < rxr> aside that I did not too much real work ... 18:12 < valentin> hi rxr 18:20 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 18:22 < veki> hi 18:23 < veki> I am compiling minimal router target , just for practising 18:23 < veki> so far it goes well 18:23 < veki> :-) 18:23 < rxr> .o(the router is very custom - it might not be easy to use) 18:25 < veki> We have guys here who are really excellent in that. I think that they can use it. Anyway, it i sidea topractise while preparing for more complex tasks -builds 18:26 < veki> Some my colleagues are hardware engineers who are developing adsl and other cards running under Linux 18:26 < veki> they do things with custom kernels and processor boards etc. so I think that router will not be problme for them 18:29 < veki> rxr: thank you for help yesterday, it was great, you, valentin and mnemoc helped a lot :-) 18:36 < rxr> veki: nice to see - no problem ,-) 18:37 < veki> thanks again, we will be in touch and I will maybe sometimes bother you, but that i sat the neginnning only :-) 18:38 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF8423.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:44 < veki> one question, maybe it is stupid 18:44 < veki> Actually, does t2 goes to the internet during compilation to download something if needed or so? 18:45 < valentin> no, you have to run ./scripts/Download before building 18:45 < veki> that is fine, I have done that, i just aworreid if it needs to go during compilation process. OK. 18:45 < veki> thanks 18:46 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:47 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:53 < veki> I have to go now, cu later 18:53 < azu1> bye 18:53 < veki> bye 18:53 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 18:54 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AFAB64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:11 < azu1> I make now the first international T2 board! 19:11 < azu1> I think it will go online on 8 o'clock 19:24 < sepp> hi all 19:28 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:29 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@66-50-34-110.prtc.net] has joined #t2 19:31 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFF91B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:31 < morfoh> hi 19:36 < sepp> hi morfoh 19:36 < morfoh> hi sepp ... how you doing ? 19:36 < sepp> good :) 19:37 < sepp> everything ok with your tribe king morfoh ? 19:37 < morfoh> sepp: nice to hear :) 19:38 < morfoh> sepp: ... hmmm ... "everything ok"? please choose another topic, but my tribe is ok ;) 19:39 < morfoh> sepp: please say "stop" for stopping the random topic generator ;) 19:39 < sepp> stop ? 19:40 -!- mipe [~mika@h90.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 19:41 < morfoh> sepp: didn't hear your "stop" because I were in the kitchen ... 19:44 < azu1> hi 19:45 < sepp> hello azu1 19:45 < morfoh> hi azu1 19:50 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 19:50 < mnemoc> new flat? 19:50 < CIA-12> chris * r9779 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.85.1 -> 0.86rc1) 19:52 < rxr> R 2.1.1 19:52 < rxr> hi morfoh ! 19:52 < morfoh> hi rxr ! 19:53 < mnemoc> .oO( 2.1.1? )o 19:53 -!- tilix [~ilia@212.116.139.141] has joined #t2 19:53 < tilix> hi 19:54 < mnemoc> hi tilix 19:54 < morfoh> hi tilix 19:56 < CIA-12> chris * r9780 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.2.0 -> 3.2.2) 19:56 < tilix> rxr: in the SPI-INC list there is a discussion about a possible problem: www.linux-mark.org wants 200$ per year for a use of the mark Linux. Does T2 use some Linux marks? 19:56 < tilix> just the name 19:56 < _Ragnar_> wtf? 19:57 < _Ragnar_> getting NXDOMAIN for that 19:57 < tilix> authorised by Linus Torvalds 19:58 < mnemoc> http://www.linuxmark.org/ 19:58 < tilix> yep 20:01 < _Ragnar_> does t2 carry linux in it? 20:01 < tilix> "Non-Profit Tier" 20:02 < tilix> "Annual Fee – US$200/year for each SUBLICENSEE MARK incorporating the SUBLICENSED TRADEMARK" 20:02 < tilix> http://www.linuxmark.org/forms/linux_licence_doc.html 20:02 < tilix> Schedule A 20:02 < mnemoc> go hurd go 20:02 < tilix> Debian people are very angry :) 20:03 < _Ragnar_> I'd just drop the linux from the title 20:03 < rxr> tilix: what mark ? trademark ? 20:04 < _Ragnar_> trademark for carrying linux(R) in the title 20:04 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.linuxmark.org/who_needs.html 20:06 < _Ragnar_> t2 doesn't do that 20:07 < mnemoc> torvals is an idiot anyway 20:07 < _Ragnar_> ? 20:07 < _Ragnar_> as I see it, he needs to told title to the trademark, and if he doesn't enforce it, it'll be deregistered 20:08 < _Ragnar_> s/told/hold/ 20:08 < _Ragnar_> so it makes sense to have this 20:08 < mnemoc> .oO 20:09 < _Ragnar_> you can still market anything freely as long as it doesn't have linux in it's title 20:09 < sepp> linux(R) 20:10 < _Ragnar_> so rock linux might need to apply for a license, but t2 project very likely doesn't 20:10 < CIA-12> chris * r9781 /trunk/package/develop/trac/trac.conf: * added trac.conf to adjust some default directories in trac's siteconfig 20:11 < _Ragnar_> rxr: btw ... duh ... the files out of basedir error for linux26 was created to out of date modutils ;p 20:12 < CIA-12> chris * r9782 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1) 20:12 * mnemoc kicks _Ragnar_ :) 20:13 * morfoh kicks mnemoc :) 20:13 < _Ragnar_> ;p 20:13 < _Ragnar_> but now I'm getting: 20:13 < _Ragnar_> Creating binary package file for linux26. 20:13 < _Ragnar_> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26.tar.bz2 20:13 < _Ragnar_> tar: usr/src/linux26-patches/15-install-in-boot.patch: Cannot stat: No such file or directory 20:13 < _Ragnar_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors 20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: no kick back ? :p 20:14 < mnemoc> i was away :p 20:15 < morfoh> oh :) 20:15 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: that is a missing usr/src/linux26-patches/ 20:15 < _Ragnar_> how would it go missing? 20:16 < mnemoc> no idea 20:16 < mnemoc> uhm... oh 20:16 < mnemoc> my mistake 20:19 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:21 < _Ragnar_> ? 20:23 < mnemoc> the file was flisted but not installed 20:23 < _Ragnar_> :) 20:23 < mnemoc> flist is recicled 20:23 < _Ragnar_> how to fix? 20:23 < mnemoc> but linux26-patches re-created everytime 20:23 < mnemoc> remove that old patch from flist 20:24 < _Ragnar_> ok 20:25 < _Ragnar_> hmm then libpng fails cuz it doesn't find itself ... weird ... why is libpng installed for an embedded target? O_O 20:27 < rxr> _Ragnar_: as test - because it is used for the psion - and other more full-featured embedded would even utilize X ... 20:31 < _Ragnar_> oh ok 20:40 < tilix> bye 20:40 < morfoh> cu tilix 20:41 < _Ragnar_> so why doesn't it find itself? O_O 20:43 -!- tilix [~ilia@212.116.139.141] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:51 < _Ragnar_> ah okay 20:51 < _Ragnar_> pngtest.o(.note+0x10): undefined reference to `__you_tried_to_link_a_dietlibc_object_against_glibc' 20:51 < _Ragnar_> ;p 20:53 < mnemoc> hehe 20:55 < lewellyn> :) 21:10 < CIA-12> sebastian * r9783 /trunk/package/network/rt2500/2.6.12.patch: * fixed rt2500 for 2.6.12 21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9784 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1) 21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9785 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.01.10 -> 2.01.12) 21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9786 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * updated qjackctl (0.2.15a -> 0.2.16) 21:21 < CIA-12> rene * r9787 /trunk/package/www/dillo/dillo.desc: * updated dillo (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5) 21:23 < azu1> Now the english Board is online!!! 21:24 < CIA-12> rene * r9788 /trunk/package/x11/libart_lgpl23/libart_lgpl23.desc: * updated libart_lgpl23 (2.3.16 -> 2.3.17) 21:24 < lewellyn> azu1++ 21:24 < CIA-12> rene * r9789 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-parser/perl-html-parser.desc: * updated perl-html-parser (3.27 -> 3.45) 21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: will we announce rc1? 21:24 < rxr> yes 21:24 < azu1> http://t2.pc-help-city.de/eng/ 21:25 < rxr> mnemoc: I draft the message and send it to you to read over it ? 21:25 < lewellyn> rxr: btw, i was looking at the supported hardware for the livecd. have you been updating it? 21:25 < mnemoc> rxr: ok 21:25 < rxr> lewellyn: not in the last days 21:25 < rxr> but first I need to lie down shortly - my stomarch is a bit rumbling .. 21:26 < mnemoc> anyone understands dot (graphviz) pagination? valentin? 21:26 < rxr> valentin has evening dinner ,-) 21:26 < mnemoc> :) 21:28 < azu1> What do you think about the board? 21:28 < lewellyn> mnemoc: you can do multiple pages with dot? o_O 21:28 < lewellyn> azu1: looking now 21:28 < sepp> nice 21:28 < azu1> You can also regist 21:28 < mnemoc> lewellyn: using ps output, yes 21:29 < mnemoc> lewellyn: but i can't control it :\ 21:29 < lewellyn> Total Members: 2 21:29 < lewellyn> :) 21:29 < lewellyn> mnemoc: i've never been able to do anything but get like 40" wide ps files. 21:29 < lewellyn> which i then have to manually go and chop up. and that sucks 21:30 < azu1> thx @ lewellyn 21:30 < lewellyn> azu1: we need more members! :) 21:30 < azu1> who will be the number three 21:30 * lewellyn points to mnemoc :) 21:30 * mnemoc hides 21:32 < mnemoc> azu1: can you integrate M2F there? 21:32 < rxr> cu soon 21:32 < mnemoc> rxr: :'( 21:32 < azu1> I will sent a press information,I think then we have alots of useres 21:32 < lewellyn> sleep well rxr 21:33 < azu1> what is M2F? 21:33 < azu1> cu rxr 21:33 < azu1> I see there is a mistake in the board 21:33 < mnemoc> http://www.mail2forum.com/ 21:35 < azu1> I tink there is no add-on for SMF 21:36 < mnemoc> sad 21:36 < mnemoc> same people refuse to use forums 21:37 < azu1> But I will see what I can do 21:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: sth. against merging recent sqlite update to branch 2.1 ? 21:48 < mnemoc> does everything depending in sqlite build with the new version? 21:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least the ones I'm using ... but I'll check it again ;) 21:51 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/livecd/regressions.html <--- after we solve these issues i'll run a new reference, including sqlite if you request it :) 21:52 < mnemoc> err 21:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: damn box freezed again :/ 21:52 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- _these_ issues 21:52 < morfoh> ah! :) 21:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: f*ck what the heck ? 21:53 < mnemoc> alsa update breaks wine, for exaple 21:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, should we enable gcj for desktop target so far ? 21:53 < mnemoc> i prefer kaffe 21:53 < mnemoc> gcc package is fat enough 21:54 < morfoh> ok ok :) 21:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: didn't saw that kaffe wasn't build due to download problems ;) 21:54 < mnemoc> oh 22:16 < rxr> re 22:16 < mnemoc> re rxr 22:17 < minto> hi all 22:17 < rxr> hi minto 22:17 < minto> rxr: I am working on a mail for you right now. 22:17 < rxr> we booked the train tickets today 22:17 < minto> rxr: comming after the concert is fine. 22:17 < lewellyn> re rxr 22:18 < rxr> we will go on Th to the concert and I'll be in amsterdam in friday then 22:18 < lewellyn> who do i petition for additions to the livecd? 22:18 < rxr> minto: ok ,-) 22:18 < rxr> lewellyn: /me ,-) 22:18 * lewellyn is using it as he would normally use a livecd right now :) 22:18 < lewellyn> rxr: can you add tcpdump? :) 22:18 < minto> rxr: Okay, what time do expect to arrive in Amsterdam. 22:18 < morfoh> hi minto 22:18 < minto> hi morfoh 22:18 < minto> :-) 22:18 < rxr> minto: what would you wish? 22:19 < rxr> minto: I would leave bochum after some breakfast and talking - maybe afer 12 o'clock or so 22:19 < minto> rxr: Somewhere in the morning is fine, say 5:30 22:19 < minto> rxr: just kidding 22:19 < lewellyn> rxr: other analysis tools would probably be nice, too. it's tcpdump that i'm sorely missing at the moment, though. 22:19 < lewellyn> rxr: also, is the livecd still rsync-able? 22:20 < minto> rxr: you like to go back to berlin by plane? 22:20 < rxr> lewellyn: yes 22:20 < rxr> but no new release yet 22:20 < rxr> I add tcpdump to the list of small, useful tools 22:20 < lewellyn> i'd also request ethereal, but that is not small :( 22:22 < CIA-12> sebastian * r9790 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/ (. mrxvt.desc): * added mrxvt (0.4.1) 22:22 < lewellyn> mrxvt? 22:22 < sepp> missed whois on the livecd 22:22 < rxr> minto: train is fine as well - if you want to pay a flight I do not say no 22:23 < rxr> but as long as train is cheaper I would just sit in some ICE and type on my iBook ,-) 22:23 < lewellyn> oh yes. whois is nice. 22:23 < lewellyn> as well as traceroute et al 22:24 < minto> rxr: I train cheaper? I have a plane from Rotterdam to berlin for around 50 euros. Let's see how much the train is. 22:24 < rxr> hm - yes 50 EUR is not bad 22:24 < sepp> lewellyn: why do you wonder about mrxvt 22:25 < rxr> europe sommer special can be 39 EUR 22:25 < rxr> but that is the special low summer price - usually it is more expensive ... 22:25 < lewellyn> r9790 22:25 < sepp> i am sebastian ... 22:26 < lewellyn> yes. i'm just curious as to what it is. 22:26 < lewellyn> :) 22:26 < valentin> mnemoc: re 22:26 < lewellyn> multilingual? 22:26 < minto> rxr: 39 euro is really cheap. 22:26 < lewellyn> minimal? 22:26 < sepp> lewellyn: no multi tabs 22:26 < lewellyn> multitabs? 22:26 < lewellyn> what are those? 22:26 < minto> rxr: Hmm, transavia.com on monday is even 30 euros. 22:27 < rxr> minto: how long will we need for the computing work? 22:27 < minto> rxr: Unfortunately these prices change day by day. 22:28 < sepp> lewellyn: materm.sf.net 22:29 < minto> rxr: Dunno exactly. First I though till saterday was fine. But since you arrive on friday after noon. Maybe till sunday is safer. 22:30 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll go to a class.... back in 3:40h :\ 22:30 < rxr> oh - so long ... 22:31 < minto> mnemoc: have fun 22:31 < rxr> minto: well - let's not stress - I have some time 22:31 < rxr> let's do all well - and let me see amsterdam (have not yet been there yet) 22:31 < mnemoc> cu 22:31 < minto> rxr: Okay, I will show you amsterdam. 22:33 < minto> rxr: How would you like to travel back, by plane or train. If by plane the soner I book the cheaper it is. 22:33 < morfoh> .oO( hmmm .. minto seems to be in travel business now )o :) 22:34 < valentin> mnemoc: oh 22:34 < valentin> missed him 22:34 < morfoh> hi valentin 22:34 < rxr> well - if plane price is not such a difference and we are more flexiable, the later 22:34 < valentin> hi all 22:34 < rxr> hi one ,-) 22:34 < minto> morfoh: I need it to be cheap so I can afford to give rxr a beer as well. ;-) 22:34 < minto> Hi Valentin 22:35 < morfoh> minto: I want to have a beer too :) 22:35 < minto> Sorry, you are not comming over. But I understand. 22:35 < morfoh> + a amsterdam visit 22:35 * lewellyn too! :) 22:35 < valentin> minto: i would love to visit amsterdam, but i cannot leave kerstin alone for so many days now 22:35 < minto> morfoh: Who knows? Maybe I come to Berlin once and I'll buy you one. 22:36 < minto> Valentin: I probably would have done the same. 22:36 < lewellyn> if you all come out to sf, i'll have to buy you all beers :) 22:36 < morfoh> minto: I'll come to amsterdam and buy you a beer too ;) 22:36 < minto> morfoh: When? 22:36 < minto> :-) 22:37 < morfoh> minto: tomorrow ;) 22:37 < minto> morfoh: I you wait till friday rxr will show up too. 22:37 < morfoh> minto: nah ... but I guess I could visit amsterdam again ... some years ago 22:38 < morfoh> I mean it's long time ... I was there 22:38 < minto> morfoh: I you do tell me. 22:38 < minto> i - If 22:38 < morfoh> minto: ack :) 22:38 < sepp> i was in amsterdam 9 years ago 22:38 < minto> Maybe I have to turn the lights on. I keep hitting the wrong buttons. 22:39 < morfoh> sepp: same here ... but I think it's 12-13 years ago ... 22:40 < minto> rxr: Shall we make it leaving on monday by plane. Rotterdam airport ( I will drive you there) to Berlin Schoenefeld? 22:40 < valentin> yuck http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/60845 22:40 < sepp> time to move to russia 22:41 < morfoh> valentin: dark times :( 22:41 < morfoh> sepp: that could be an option 22:41 < morfoh> but not really 22:41 < rxr> minto: you have a big TODO file ... 22:42 < morfoh> sepp: anyway ... I have other prefered countries to move to 22:42 < sepp> but it is one of the few lang. i now 22:43 < sepp> know* 22:43 < minto> rxr: How long would you like to stay? 22:44 < rxr> minto: well - I can not perfectly estimate the time needed for some of the points on your todo 22:44 < morfoh> sepp: unfortunately my russian is very rusty 22:45 < rxr> minto: well - let's plan 3 more or less full days for those, ok? thus leaving on Tuesday 22:46 < rxr> to be on the save site to get your TODO flushed properly 22:46 < minto> rxr: Me neither. But it is no big deal if some point are not done. Only the first two are important. Number 3 is more open for discussion. 22:46 < minto> Okay tuesday. 22:46 < rxr> If this is ok for you ... ? 22:47 < minto> Right now it is. 22:47 < rxr> ok - fine ,-) 22:48 < minto> hehe, flying on tuesday is even cheaper. 19,99 for the flight + 28,70 tax. 22:48 < minto> leaving Rotterdam at 15.30 arriving in berlin around 16:45 22:48 < rxr> hehe ,-) 22:48 * minto is a touroperator now. 22:49 * morfoh calling operator .... 22:49 * minto is a TOUR operator not a PHONE operator. 22:49 < minto> :-) 22:50 < morfoh> what a pitty :) 22:55 < minto> rxr: Your flight has been booked (I hope) 22:58 < minto> ah it is. I just received the confirmation. 22:58 < minto> Now I am off to bed. Sleep well everbody. 22:59 < azu1> Gn8 minto 22:59 < lewellyn> sleep well minto 22:59 < rxr> minto: ok - thanks - sleep well 22:59 < rxr> T2 2.1.0-rc1 "plastic bag & magazines" 22:59 < rxr> code name ok ? 23:00 < sepp> plastic bag? 23:00 < morfoh> sleep well tour operator 23:00 < sepp> sounds like "muelltuete" 23:01 < morfoh> rxr: I don't like the code name ... 23:02 < morfoh> but I don't know what's the intention behind 23:02 < rxr> ouhm 23:02 < rxr> what about french maid then ? 23:02 < rxr> "french maid" that is ,-) 23:03 < morfoh> why french ? I'd use chilean maid even 23:03 < morfoh> :) 23:03 < morfoh> it better suits ;) 23:03 < lewellyn> rxr: is the krdc on the livecd fully functional? 23:05 < rxr> lewellyn: ouhm - it falls into the "untested category ..." 23:05 < rxr> it is the remove desktop thing, right? 23:05 < rxr> if yes I guess it might miss rdesktop 23:05 < lewellyn> i've targeted a half dozen vnc servers and it won't connect :( 23:05 < rxr> at least I have not epxlicitly added it 23:05 < lewellyn> and yes, it is. 23:05 < rxr> oh - vnc even 23:06 < lewellyn> we only run windows on desktops here :) 23:06 < rxr> well - can you send a mail into "my inbox is my database" reminding me on tcpdump, vnc and rdesktop 23:06 * lewellyn makes a note. 23:06 < rxr> windows? is what linux are they based on? 23:06 < lewellyn> i'll probabaly have more to add to that list by end-of-day 23:06 < lewellyn> that question did not parse quite right on this end :( 23:07 < rxr> lewellyn: just joking -) 23:07 < rxr> when people tell me whatsoever about windows I usually ask what linux dist that is "never heared of it - can't be that well" ... 23:07 < morfoh> rxr: what do you think about "Chilean Maid" as 2.1-rc1 code name ? 23:11 < lewellyn> . o O ( hmm... i could use a chilean maid... hmm... ) 23:15 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: just thought of it --- regarding the official rc1 release maintainer 23:16 < jsaw> re 23:16 < lewellyn> oh. i was thinking of keeping a maid in my room... 23:16 < morfoh> so ... I'm shortly away 23:16 < morfoh> hi jsaw :) 23:16 < lewellyn> the outfit being optional :) 23:16 < lewellyn> hoi jsaw 23:16 < jsaw> hi morfoh , lewellyn 23:17 < azu1> hi jsaw 23:17 -!- morfoh is now known as morfoh|away 23:17 < jsaw> oh my, so many mails to read (after move no dsl yet, but my boss allowed me to put the machine in the institute) 23:17 < jsaw> hi azu1 23:18 < jsaw> rxr: obviously the patch for dietlibc is correct, it's in CVS already 23:18 * lewellyn logs into his workstation 23:18 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:18 < lewellyn> FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-TWO! FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-TWO NEW EMAIL MESSAGES! HAHAHAHAHA! 23:18 < lewellyn> :( 23:18 < jsaw> :) 23:19 < rxr> ? 23:19 < rxr> hi jsaw 23:19 < jsaw> hi rxr 23:20 < valentin> lewellyn: - spam ? 23:21 < valentin> hi jsaw 23:21 < jsaw> hi valentin 23:23 < rxr> jsaw: yes - I posted he took it - but he has not answered my two other compat patches ... 23:23 < rxr> n8 all 23:23 < jsaw> g'night rxr :) 23:27 < lewellyn> valentin: no. just not at my desk today :( 23:34 < lewellyn> ok. on the livecd, how do i increase my resolution past 1024x768? :( 23:37 < valentin> if you have a ddc monitor which says theese modes are supported it should choose a higher resolution 23:37 < lewellyn> this monitor can do at least 1600x1200 23:38 < lewellyn> it's "Standard timing 2", in fact 23:38 < lewellyn> so says VT1 23:38 < lewellyn> it's also only using 16 bit :( 23:39 * lewellyn can't blame kde anymore for color banding :( 23:42 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.8.195] has joined #t2 23:42 < _Ragnar_> uh huh 23:42 < _Ragnar_> now I try ./scripts/Config and when I first press the down arrow key it just terminates 23:43 < lewellyn> hoi keinek_ 23:51 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.60] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:54 < lewellyn> why isn't T2@Live listed on the unionfs project page? 23:54 < valentin> no idea. maybe you give them a hint ? 23:55 * lewellyn starts yet another notepad for when he has time to compose email. --- Log closed Tue Jun 21 00:00:00 2005