T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-04

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--- Log opened Mon Jul 04 00:00:00 2005
00:14 < sepp_> mnemoc: your cleaned patch works on my unichrome hw ;)
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00:23 < sepp_> good night all
00:26 < CIA-9> amery * r9974 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/xorg.conf: * cleaned xorg/unichrome integration
00:27 < mnemoc> sepp_: good :)
00:44 < veki> good night
00:44 < veki> :-)
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09:01 < rxr> re
09:02 < mnemoc> re rxr
09:04 < rxr> hey mnemoc !
09:05 < mnemoc> :)
09:05 < rxr> you found the spamassassin related fl_wrapper fix effective ?
09:06 < mnemoc> worked :)
09:06 < mnemoc> thanks a lot^3
09:07 < rxr> no problem - took only two after work evening to track ,-)
09:08 < rxr> I hope it does not cause other regressions
09:09 < mnemoc> i'll start a new ref now
09:09 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html
09:10 < rxr> mnemoc: didn't you once package jpeg2pdf ?
09:10 < mnemoc> after reverting bglibs update
09:10 < mnemoc> me?
09:10 < mnemoc> the only *pdf* thing i packaged was pdfjam
09:13 < rxr> hm
09:14 < mnemoc> does mod_perl build on trunk?
09:17 < rxr> .o(no idea)
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09:36 < SerWou> hello guys
09:36 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: no it doesn't
09:37 < rxr> moin SerWou rxr sepp
09:38 < SerWou> morning rxr
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09:54 < sepp> moin :)
10:04 < valentin> moin
10:09 < rxr> moin
10:11 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
10:11 < minto> moin
10:13 < rxr> hi minto
10:13 < minto> Hi rxr, how was your weekend in Zurich?
10:14 < rxr> I worked on saturday ... and I wanted to write articles on sunday - but mostly read my latest book I brought in the rotterday airport to relax a bit ,-)
10:15 < rxr> so I'll write the articles mostly this afternoon and tomorrrow ...
10:16 < minto> Maybe you could also have a look at trac issue 16. I have been messing around be a generic minimal build on my pentium server.
10:17 < minto> As the issue states it did not work out that well. Building kernel 2.6 required udev, hotplug++ and disktype. The first two I could add but the last one has a prio after the kernel.
10:18 < minto> :-( Now I am not sure what to do next.
10:19 < minto> The same generic minimal target on 2.1 did built fine. No I try that same thing on noisy.
10:19 < minto> See if 32-bit build on 64 bits machine leads to strange behavior.
10:20 < minto> BTW. Is noisy supposed to have a /lib64 directory? If so, it doesn't.
10:20 < rxr> not in the root fs - since that is 32bit T2 minimal ...
10:21 < minto> Ahh, how do is start the machine in 64 bits modus?
10:21 < minto> is = I
10:22 < rxr> it is running a 64bit kernel - so it "is in 64bit modus"
10:22 < rxr> you can build 64bit T2 just fine it it
10:22 < rxr> remebered: we wanted to not mess with the / rootfs until a full build was done and known to be good
10:23 < minto> Okay, I will try the 64 bits minimal build in 2.1 after the 32 bits build.
10:30 < minto> hmm, why wait. Let's build two different targets concurrently.
10:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: :(
10:55 < minto> hi mnemoc
10:55 < mnemoc> hi minto
10:56 < minto> You are up early?
10:56 < sepp> is there a smart way to ignore a pkg in all .cache files?
10:56 < sepp> 60 cache files list dpkg
10:56 < mnemoc> minto: nah... working 'late' :)
10:57 < minto> mnemoc: Working late and still smiling?
10:58 < mnemoc> typing an smile is easy
10:59 < minto> Well I hope you will get some well deserved sleep soon. :-)
11:01 < mnemoc> it seems not :\
11:03 < mnemoc> this wifi sucks more every day
11:05 < valentin> moin mnemoc
11:05 < valentin> we can see from the commit graph that mnemoc and rxr are quite busy theese days
11:06 < rxr> valentin: then go, commit some stuff ...
11:06 < rxr> at least the avision graph could raise ...
11:06 < valentin> i still need a kill() method in your pstreams
11:06 < rxr> btw. I just offerred Avision to write compression code for their next gen scanners in VHDL or whatever they need to speed up future scanners ...
11:06 < valentin> i think i'll do today
11:07 < rxr> they have compression fields in their spec for ages - and the scanners still do nto support
11:07 < rxr> it ...
11:07 < rxr> guess they would not let me mess in their scanner firmware - but who knows ...
11:08 < rxr> since the AV220 is not able to saturate the USB 2.0 bus ...
11:09 < mnemoc> valentin: any help is welcomed
11:17 < rxr> hm - seems all jpeg2pdf suck ...
11:17 < rxr> maybe the ruby implemented one is better - but no ruby ...
11:17 < rxr> so I stick with jpeg2p | ps2pdf for now ...
11:19 < mnemoc> rxr: follow pdfnup and doit using tex :)
11:26 < minto> Hmm, 64 bits generic minimal failed in dietlibc (stage 1)
11:26 < minto> strip -x -R .comment -R .note bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o
11:26 < minto> strip: bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o: File format not recognized
11:26 < minto> make: [bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o] Error 1 (ignored)
11:27 < minto> seems like a 32 bits strip is having problems with 64 bits object files.
11:28 < valentin> mnemoc: help with ?
11:41 < mnemoc> valentin: fixing and doing commits :)
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12:13 < minto> Should strip be build as part of binutils in stage 0?
12:14 < minto> Seems like it isn't. Dietlibc in stage 1 uses strip.
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12:28 < rxr> it should use $arch_target-strip ... not strip ...
12:29 < minto> rxr: seems like it isn't
12:29 < minto> What do I need to do to fix?
12:29 < rxr> it is stripping the target libraries?
12:30 < minto> No object files.
12:30 < minto> strip -x -R .comment -R .note bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o
12:31 < rxr> you are building for x86_64 I guess ?
12:31 < minto> yes, 2.1 generic minimal
12:31 < rxr> well - it should use this $(CROSS) or so before the strip in the Makefile
12:31 < rxr> but maybe this is already fixed in trunk
12:31 < minto> I am not doning a crossbuild, should I?
12:32 < mnemoc> i'm about to commit what i think is all your sparc64 work....
12:32 < mnemoc> but.... i'm not sure if it's all
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12:35 < minto> I gotta go now, I hava an interview comming up.
12:35 < minto> cu all later
12:36 < azureus> hi
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12:43 < karasz> hi everybody
12:44 < azureus> hi karasz
12:47 < karasz> how can I check if "./scripts/Download -required" has done a propper job?
12:47 < karasz> on satturday i launched the script
12:48 < karasz> on monday morning no power :(
12:48 < karasz> how can i check if everything has dlded?
13:00 < karasz> anybody?
13:01 < jsaw> rxr: bug in embeddedSTL
13:01 < azureus> valentin: are you around?
13:02 < jsaw> hi all btw
13:02 < jsaw> ;)
13:03 < jsaw> rxr: vector::insert, copy_backward copies one element short (must read "v+idx-1"),
13:04 < jsaw> rxr: second, the ++m_size and copy_backward line can change place so you spare one "-" in copy_backward
13:04 < mnemoc> karasz: run it again
13:04 < karasz> i tried
13:04 < mnemoc> karasz: so it did
13:04 < karasz> it doesn't say anything
13:04 < mnemoc> good
13:04 < jsaw> gone again, cu later
13:05 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
13:05 < karasz> it means that dld is complete?
13:05 < mnemoc> if you are really paranoic you can run it again with -check to re-validate files
13:06 < karasz> i am really paranioc :)
13:06 < karasz> it doesn't say anything either
13:06 < mnemoc> -check :)
13:06 < mnemoc> uhm
13:06 < karasz> now i can try Build-Target?
13:07 < mnemoc> if Download -check -required did say nothing, something is very wrong
13:07 < karasz> i run Download -required -check
13:07 < karasz> nothing
13:07 < mnemoc> do: Download -check -required
13:07 < karasz> download -check displays help
13:08 < mnemoc> .oO
13:08 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Download -check -required
13:08 < mnemoc> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.11.tar.bz2
13:08 < mnemoc> ...
13:08 < karasz> download -check -required does check :)
13:08 < karasz> yep
13:09 < mnemoc> good
13:11 < karasz> after that
13:11 < mnemoc> Build-Target
13:11 < karasz> the propper way is buil-tools and build-target?
13:11 < karasz> i dont need buid-tools?\
13:12 < mnemoc> just Build-Target
13:12 < karasz> ok
13:12 < mnemoc> Build-Target runs Build-Tools when it thinks its needed
13:13 < karasz> i tried buil-target before but it exits with an error from buiding kernel
13:13 < karasz> :(
13:13 < karasz> thats wyu im running -check
13:13 < mnemoc> see the last lines of src.linux*.*/ERROR-LOG
13:14 < mnemoc> around 10 lines above '--- BUILD ERROR ---'
13:15 < karasz> i' looking right now
13:15 < karasz> what do you need from there?
13:15 < mnemoc> the error
13:15 < karasz> :)
13:15 < mnemoc> :)
13:15 < karasz> Making post-install adaptations
13:15 < mnemoc> above that
13:16 < mnemoc> what version of T2 do you have there?
13:17 < karasz> patching file arch/x86_64/kernel/ptrace.c
13:17 < karasz> patching file "arch/x86_64/kernel/ptrace.c"
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13:18 < mnemoc> karasz: can you publish (http://....) your error log?
13:18 < karasz> patching file :arch/x86_64/kernel/ptarce.c"
13:18 < karasz> yep
13:18 < mnemoc> :)
13:18 < karasz> right away then i give you the link
13:19 < mnemoc> ok
13:20 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/ERROR-LOG
13:21 < karasz> can you accerss it?
13:22 < mnemoc> yes
13:22 < mnemoc> 1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file arch/x86_64/kernel/sys_x86_64.c.rej
13:22 < karasz> ok
13:22 < karasz> but i dont want to buid c86_64
13:22 < mnemoc> create symbolic link `/usr/src/t2-trunk/src.linux-header.1120473894.22085.7f0100/archdir/linux-2.6.11.tar.bz2' to
13:22 < karasz> but i dont want to buid x86_64
13:23 < mnemoc> ^--- i thought trunk had 2.6.11
13:23 < mnemoc> 2.6.12
13:23 < mnemoc> karasz: are you using trunk's HEAD?
13:23 < karasz> ????
13:24 < karasz> i dlded a tar which minto gave me
13:24 < mnemoc> ic
13:24 < karasz> thats because i use a piii computer
13:24 < karasz> which can run only minimal
13:25 < karasz> which doesnt have svn to access your svn server
13:25 < mnemoc> emerge it :)
13:25 < mnemoc> .oO( why the heck minimal doesn't have subversion??! )o
13:25 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg subversion
13:25 < karasz> but minimal doesnt have emerge scripts either
13:26 < mnemoc> on /usr/src/t2-trunk/ dir
13:26 < karasz> now i have emerge from mintos tar
13:26 < mnemoc> you could grab 2.1.0-rc1 tarball
13:27 < karasz> what would happen to Downlad -required then?
13:27 < mnemoc> you can 'recicle' your download dir
13:27 < karasz> how?
13:27 < mnemoc> symlink it, mount --bind, mv, cp -al, ....
13:27 < karasz> should i save it elswhrere than put it back?
13:28 < mnemoc> you choose where you untar the tarball :)
13:28 < karasz> i will do that but right now im -check --ing :)
13:29 < karasz> another interesting thing
13:29 < mnemoc> cp -al, and ln -s work during Download -check :)
13:29 < karasz> my network card is a 3com
13:29 < karasz> it doesnt seem to work automaticaly
13:30 < mnemoc> 3com driver is built in
13:30 < karasz> i must do a ifconfig netnmask broadcast
13:30 < karasz> and a route add
13:30 < karasz> every time i boot
13:30 < karasz> i saw that
13:30 < karasz> but ...
13:30 < mnemoc> use stone to configure it :)
13:31 < karasz> stone says that it cannot add script
13:31 < mnemoc> uhm? can you paste that?
13:31 < karasz> and in `/etc/networks` i have only loopback
13:32 < karasz> stone
13:32 < karasz> just a minute
13:33 < karasz> pci/cardbus configuration
13:33 < mnemoc> no, network configuration
13:33 < karasz> oki
13:34 < karasz> interface eth0
13:34 < karasz> ip 192.168.1.0/24
13:34 < karasz> gw 192.168.1.1
13:34 < karasz> nameserver .....
13:34 < mnemoc> ip 192.168.1.0/24 ? <-- .0?
13:35 < mnemoc> i really doubt your ip is .0
13:35 < karasz> i want it to have 192.168.1.101
13:35 < karasz> should i 192.168.1.101/24?
13:35 < mnemoc> change it to ip 192.168.1.101/24 then
13:35 < karasz> ok
13:35 < mnemoc> yes
13:36 < karasz> restart network init script
13:36 < karasz> shutting down :-(
13:36 < karasz> setting up :-(
13:37 < mnemoc> shutting down?
13:37 < karasz> interface /profile matched : eth0(default)
13:37 < karasz> i bring it ip manualy
13:37 < mnemoc> what init level are you using?
13:38 < karasz> 3
13:38 < mnemoc> that should start network automaticly
13:38 < karasz> it does
13:38 < karasz> but i have a :-(
13:38 < karasz> i guess it means that it failed
13:39 < karasz> but now it works despite of the :-(
13:39 < karasz> -checking ok i gues
13:39 < mnemoc> what 'ip a s' say?
13:39 < karasz> it doesn say error anywhere
13:39 < mnemoc> rocknet tend to be sad
13:40 < karasz> ip a s
13:40 < karasz> inet 192.168.1.101/24 scope global eth0
13:40 < mnemoc> and ip r s ?
13:40 < karasz> inet6 .... scope link
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13:41 < mnemoc> wb morfoh@july
13:41 < karasz> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.101
13:41 < morfoh> oh! mnemoc :)
13:41 < karasz> default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
13:41 < morfoh> hi karasz
13:41 < karasz> hi morfoh
13:42 < karasz> i guess this is correct since it is working despite of rock beeing sad... :)
13:42 < rxr> re
13:43 < morfoh> hi rxr
13:45 < mnemoc> rxr: we should use assert conditions instead of 'normal' onces... [ $everything_is_ok ] || fail rocknet is sad because [ $something_went_wrong ] && fail which $?=1 if $something_went_wrong is false
13:49 < mnemoc> i'll take a shower... this has been a loooong night
13:49 < mnemoc> bbl
13:53 < CIA-9> chris * r9975 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/ (. lighttpd.conf lighttpd.desc): * added lighttpd (1.3.14)
13:55 < azureus> re
13:56 < azureus> How I can changethe graphic driver?
13:59 < morfoh> azureus: take a look into "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
14:02 < CIA-9> amery * r9976 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xorg/ (xorg.conf xorg.desc): * merged 9676,9691,9974 from trunk: changed xorg to use unichromedriver from sf.net instead of xorg's via
14:02 < karasz> morfof are you interested in 0-linux-header.err?
14:03 < karasz> sorry
14:03 < karasz> morfoh are you interested in 0-linux-header.err?
14:04 < azureus> How I can change it, I dont know how to have a look there or what Ihave to do there
14:05 < mnemoc> karasz: use svn or the 2.1.0-rc1 tarball
14:05 < karasz> ok
14:05 < karasz> now i will
14:05 < karasz> id like to use svn
14:05 < karasz> whats the command line again please?
14:05 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1
14:05 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
14:08 < azureus> Is here anyone who know this?
14:15 < valentin> azureus: as i said yesterday, you need to change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
14:15 < valentin> best way to do this is using a text editor
14:16 < valentin> for example joe or pico
14:16 < valentin> if you scroll through the fd
14:16 < valentin> file
14:16 < valentin> you will find a line containing sth like
14:16 < valentin> Driver "ati" # mga, ati, nv, sis, vesa ...
14:17 < valentin> just change it to your driver
14:18 < azureus> which fd file?
14:18 < valentin> fd was a typo
14:18 < valentin> /etc/X11/....
14:19 < azureus> How I can open the file?
14:20 < valentin> if you do not know how to configure an X-Server or edit files, perhaps you should read some introductionary resources about unix/linux in the net or you wait two weeks until rxr migrated the automatic configuration from our live-cd into development branch
14:20 < valentin> if you want to edit a file you could
14:21 < valentin> pico
14:21 < valentin> or even
14:21 < valentin> vi
14:21 < valentin> but if you use vi i would recomend you read some manual first, because vi is all but intuitive
14:21 < azureus> ok
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14:33 < azureus> valentin: Do you have introductionary resources about unix/linux ?
14:34 < rxr> .oO
14:34 < rxr> hi floks
14:34 < rxr> folks even
14:50 < valentin> hi rxr
14:51 < valentin> azureus: ouhm ... had been 8 years ago since i started using unix
14:51 < valentin> rxr: we need xdetect in trunk ,)
14:52 < veki> what you mean by introductory resources?
14:52 < veki> Do you mean a book about yunix/linux for th ebeginners?
14:54 < valentin> veki: some resources for beginners, for example how to work on the command line and esp how to configure X
14:59 < azureus> yes
15:06 < sepp> http://www.oreilly.de/german/freebooks/rlinux3ger/linux_wegIVZ.html ;)
15:11 < karasz> morfoh are u there?
15:12 < karasz> sorry
15:12 < karasz> mnemoc are u there?
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15:15 < karasz> mnemoc are u there?
15:20 < jsaw> re
15:26 < rxr> hi jsaw
15:27 < rxr> valentin: xdetect is in trunk
15:27 < rxr> the official name is xfcgt2 or so ...
15:27 < rxr> xcfgt2 even
15:27 < rxr> valentin: I speed up batch scans ...
15:27 < rxr> should be 2-3 seconds less delay per page now ...
15:27 < rxr> yep - got 35 pages per minute ...
15:28 < rxr> neat ,-)
15:28 < rxr> 100dpi gray ...
15:28 < rxr> due to USB 1.x on the damn aging iBook ...
15:30 < rxr> ok - also scanned 54 pages in a row ...
15:31 < morfoh> hi jsaw, rxr
15:32 < karasz> hi morfoh
15:32 < morfoh> hi karasz
15:32 < azureus> hi morfoh
15:32 < karasz> buid-target doesn't build kernel and exits ...
15:35 < morfoh> karasz: what tree ? trunk or rc1 ?
15:36 < karasz> stable i guess
15:36 < karasz> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
15:37 < karasz> target type desktop
15:37 < morfoh> what error message ?
15:37 < karasz> optimized for pIII
15:38 < karasz> should i publish an err.log>
15:38 < karasz> should i publish an err.log?
15:38 < morfoh> karasz: no! don't paste the whole log here ... what does it say at the end ?
15:39 < rxr> now test batch scanning page 170
15:39 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/0-linux-header.err
15:39 < karasz> i wont paste
15:39 < karasz> give a link
15:40 < karasz> it's ok?
15:40 < rxr> yes
15:40 < rxr> though I really do nto have the time to look into it ...
15:40 < morfoh> ok ... the problem is the skas3 pach
15:41 < morfoh> patch even ...
15:41 < karasz> so i shouldn't make optimized for PIII?
15:42 < morfoh> no! I should update the uml_utilities package to not include skas3 patch as default
15:42 < rxr> ouhm - after page 253 the scanner claimed feeder jammed ...
15:42 < karasz> anything i can do beside wait?
15:42 < morfoh> a quick workaround is to disable uml_utilities for now
15:42 < karasz> how?
15:42 < morfoh> run ./Config -cfg YOURTARGET
15:42 < morfoh> of course ./scripts/Config
15:43 < morfoh> enable custom package selection
15:44 < morfoh> after that ===> Edit package selection rules
15:44 < karasz> add new rule?
15:44 < morfoh> yes
15:45 < morfoh> O uml_utilities <-- will disable it
15:45 < karasz> invalid line(s) in package rule set. Remove?
15:46 < karasz> i wrote exactly 0 uml_utilities
15:46 < karasz> is it zero or "o"
15:46 < karasz> i wrote zero
15:47 < morfoh> no ... "O"
15:47 < morfoh> not zero
15:47 < karasz> oki
15:48 < karasz> now lets see
15:48 < morfoh> ok
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15:51 < valentin> I HATE LOCALES
15:51 < valentin> whenever i write a awk or sed programm it does not work on every second computer due to f*cking locales
15:52 < valentin> is there an "ignore locale" switch for those tools ?
15:54 < rxr> new test scan: page 380 ...
15:55 < karasz> kernel header has build
15:57 < karasz> glibc
15:57 < karasz> dietlibc
15:57 < karasz> flex
15:57 < karasz> now binutils
15:58 < rxr> damn - too long away
15:58 < rxr> stopped after 484 pages due to out of documents ...
15:58 < karasz> valentin LOCALES is your friend
15:59 < karasz> not allways a good one
15:59 < karasz> but still
15:59 < karasz> :)
16:02 < karasz> binutils done
16:02 < karasz> now gcc
16:05 < jsaw> hi rxr, morfoh, karasz, valentin
16:05 < karasz> hi jsaw
16:05 < jsaw> rxr: have you read the embeddedSTL bug?
16:09 < rxr> oehm - no ?
16:09 < jsaw> 13:12 < jsaw> rxr: vector::insert, copy_backward copies one element short (must
16:09 < jsaw> read "v+idx-1"),
16:09 < jsaw> 13:12 < jsaw> rxr: second, the ++m_size and copy_backward line can change place
16:09 < jsaw> so you spare one "-" in copy_backward
16:10 < jsaw> there's something else in the Makefile I do not remember now, will report later.
16:10 < jsaw> ah, just that I said it, now I remember, "make clean" does not remove libembc++.a
16:10 < jsaw> must be
16:11 < jsaw> BUILD_LIBS = libembc++.a
16:11 < jsaw> all: ... $(BUILD_LIBS)
16:11 < jsaw> for make clean to work correctly
16:16 < karasz> gcc done
16:16 < karasz> tools.cross done
16:16 < karasz> squash done
16:16 < karasz> now tar
16:18 < karasz> done
16:18 < karasz> and so on
16:25 < jsaw> rxr: any objections to move bootdisk initrd images to cramfs?
16:26 < minto> Hi all
16:26 < jsaw> rxr: (ext2 will not work as long as ext2 is a module...)
16:27 < karasz> hi minto
16:28 < minto> hi karasz
16:28 < morfoh> hi minto
16:28 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
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16:37 < jsaw> rxr: ok, cramfs works, but after mouting root (from cramfs), kernel stops with
16:37 < jsaw> "Warning: unable to open an initial console"
16:37 < jsaw> ...
16:43 < CIA-9> jsaw * r9977 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build.sh build_stage1.sh build_stage2.sh config.in):
16:43 < CIA-9> Because ext2 is a module, bootdisk target is changed:
16:43 < CIA-9> * add cramfs-tools to build and package list
16:43 < CIA-9> * adjust PATH, so that mkcramfs is found
16:43 < CIA-9> * replace ext2 initrd image generation with mkcramfs
16:43 < CIA-9> WARNING: kernel still does not boot, probably due to
16:43 < CIA-9> missing console drivers (modules?)
16:43 < jsaw> cu
16:44 < minto> rxr: Remember the dietlibc issue this morning?
16:46 < minto> Dietlibc is started with:
16:46 < minto> make MYARCH=x86_64 CC=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc CPP=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-cpp CXX=CXX_not_available_in_stage_1 prefix=/usr CC_FOR _BUILD=cc BUILDCC=cc BUILD_CC=cc HOSTCC=cc HOST_CC=cc STRIP=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-strip AR=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-ar LD=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-ld RANLIB=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-ranlib NM=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-nm prefix=/usr/dietlibc all dyn
16:46 < minto> But makefile uses strip like:
16:46 < minto> $(COMMENT) -$(CROSS)strip -x -R .comment -R .note $@
16:47 < minto> I think strip in the makefile should become $(STRIP)?
16:48 < minto> But I wonder if $(CROSS)$(STRIP) will conflict when cross building .
16:52 < karasz> how does Build-Target behave if lost power?
16:52 < karasz> if i run it again would it began at the beginning or where left off?
16:52 < minto> karasz: Just start it again.
16:53 < karasz> so what was built before power loss won't buld again, is that right?
16:53 < minto> Yepp
16:55 < karasz> ok
17:40 < minto> I added trac ticket #17. Any objections to my modifications. These should be added into the 2.1 branch.
18:07 < morfoh> ok have to move now ... cu later
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19:03 < minto> Is there anyone in to help me?
19:04 < mnemoc> i'm an intel boy :(
19:07 < minto> hi mnemoc, I want to know some kernel 2.4 related stuff so I can fix the problems myself.
19:08 < minto> Right now I get the following when building 32 bits generic-minimal:
19:08 < minto> ...
19:08 < minto> Running 'depmod -a -q -F /boot/System.map 2.4.31-dist' ...
19:08 < minto> ===[main_lx:131 (last $?=0)> depmod -a -q -F /boot/System.map_2.4.31-dist 2.4.31-dist
19:08 < minto> depmod: ELF file /lib/modules/2.4.31-dist/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o not for this architecture
19:08 < minto> I wonder how to resolve this.
19:09 < mnemoc> file /lib/modules/2.4.31-dist/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o
19:10 < rxr> re
19:10 < minto> /lib/modules/2.4.31-dist/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
19:11 < rxr> minto: is it using the host depmod ?
19:11 < mnemoc> is that inside chroot?
19:11 < minto> Dunno, how do I find out?
19:11 < minto> it is in stage 5
19:11 < mnemoc> did you run ./debug.sh to run file ?
19:12 < minto> Uhhh, nope. I wil now.
19:12 < mnemoc> file build/foo//lib/modules/2.4.31-dist/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o should also work
19:14 < minto> file command is not know in ./debug.sh
19:15 < minto> build/foo... leads to
19:15 < minto> build/generic-minimal-32-2.1.0-rc2-x86-generic/lib/modules/2.4.31-dist/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
19:20 < minto> :-( I have to turn the box off again in a few minutes.
19:23 < minto> rxr: Maybe you can have a look I my proposed dietlibc fix at https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/17
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19:32 < morfoh> re hi
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19:45 < kleper> hi
19:45 < morfoh> hi kleper
19:46 < kleper> i new in t2 i building a target generic
19:46 < kleper> when i do the iso i see this:
19:46 < kleper> root@cugaro:/mnt/dd/T2 # ./scripts/Create-ISO kleper1 bootdisc
19:46 < kleper> [12:41:15] Removing old files with same prefix ...
19:46 < kleper> [12:41:15] Reading configs ...
19:46 < kleper> parsing for EVERY disk.
19:46 < kleper> parsing for DISK1 disk.
19:46 < kleper> parsing for SINGLE disk.
19:46 < kleper> parsing for SPLIT disk.
19:46 < kleper> [12:41:15] Creating ISO index ...
19:46 < kleper> Shared: 4 kB in 1 files
19:47 < kleper> Disk 1: 20599 kB in 3 files (boot)
19:47 < kleper> Total: 20603 kB in 4 files
19:47 < kleper> [12:41:15] Creating iso/kleper1_index.txt ...
19:47 < kleper> [12:41:15] Creating iso/kleper1_cd1.iso ...
19:47 < kleper> [12:41:18] Done. Have fun!
19:47 < kleper> is this ok???
19:47 < morfoh> kleper: it's a bit too small your generic build
19:47 < morfoh> and an generic wouldn't fit on one CD anyway
19:48 < kleper> i do the minimal
19:48 < morfoh> did you ran ./scripts/Build-Target ?
19:49 < kleper> sip
19:51 < morfoh> as pointed out in the handbook ... the normal procedure to create a target is to run 1. ./scripts/Config -cfg foo 2. ./scripts/Download -cfg foo -required 3. ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg foo 4. ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 700 MyCDPrefix foo
19:52 < morfoh> ah! and if you want to have a bootable install CD build a bootdisk target too
19:57 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ISO kleper1 bootdisc <--- only bootdisk there :)
21:06 < rxr> rehi
21:06 < morfoh> hi rxr
21:07 < rxr> so - finally most of the USB instability dust settled ..
21:07 < rxr> damn boxes ...
21:07 < rxr> I do not want to know how many pages we scanned on the various scanners the lasst days - most probably over 10.000 ...
21:10 < rxr> hey cool - yet anther document feeder jam ,-)
21:10 < rxr> feered the USB stack would have freeked out again - good that it was just the ADF ...
21:12 < rxr> puh
21:12 < rxr> I think at 22.00 I jump out of the office ...
21:14 < rxr> the only thing is - that it is rainign quite a lot right now ...
21:14 < rxr> and I have no protection with me ...
21:43 < rxr> re
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22:14 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
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22:14 [Users #t2]
22:14 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ minto ] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
22:14 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
22:14 [ azureus ] [ karasz_2] [ morfoh] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
22:14 [ CIA-9 ] [ kleper ] [ mtr_ ] [ sepp]
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22:14 < mnemoc> i think virtualdomain problem :)
22:15 < valentin> so the mikmod author sells p0rn ?
22:15 < sepp> seems so
22:16 < mnemoc> at least he hosts p0rn
22:16 < valentin> at least he has his site at a host who hosts p.
22:16 < morfoh> it doesn't matter ... as we all know ubunto produces p0rn :p
22:17 < mnemoc> :)
22:17 < sepp> lol
22:17 < mnemoc> we all know?
22:17 < mnemoc> url?
22:17 < valentin> well, after the software patent decision tomorow we all should switch to porn hosting
22:18 < valentin> mnemoc: you never saw ubuntus naked-asses logo ?
22:18 < mnemoc> nope :\
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22:20 < valentin> http://www.livejournal.com/users/davyd/120935.html
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22:20 < valentin> but thoose are not the asses
22:20 < mnemoc> *click*
22:21 < morfoh> mnemoc / valentin but these are not the real ones ...
22:21 < valentin> mnemoc: google for "ubuntu porn" and you get hundreds of hits
22:22 < sepp> http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/3ubuntu.jpg
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22:23 < morfoh> and now we'll know why they did it
22:23 < morfoh> we all ... i mean
22:23 < mnemoc> :D
22:23 < morfoh> sepp: ack ... this was the one
22:23 < morfoh> :D
22:23 < karasz_2> hi
22:23 < morfoh> sepp: bookmarked ... heh ;)
22:24 < karasz_2> how can i become again karasz?
22:24 < sepp> morfoh: no just searched "unbuntu site:exactcode.de"
22:24 < morfoh> hehe :)
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22:25 < karasz_2> uhh
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22:26 < karasz> yupie
22:29 < karasz> is this thing on?
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22:40 < CIA-9> rene * r9978 /trunk/package/network/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
22:40 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-libs (2.15 -> 2.18)
22:40 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-utils (2.15 -> 2.18)
22:40 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-hcidump (1.18 -> 1.22)
22:40 < rxr_> re
22:40 -!- You're now known as rxr
22:41 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:41 < jsaw> long working day?
22:41 < rxr> yep
22:41 < rxr> ...
22:41 < rxr> in my flat there is only ISDN and I do neither work on the old rotting PC there and not configure the USB ISDN adapter in t2 ...
22:43 * karasz compiling
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22:47 * karasz will compile for a long time from now ....
22:48 < mnemoc> i have two machines which _never_ stop building
22:49 < rxr> hi mnemoc
22:51 < mnemoc> hi jpeg2rxr
22:51 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
22:52 < mnemoc> nothing, just a joke from someone lacking sleep hours
22:55 < jsaw> sleep deprivation seems not to be healthy
22:55 < jsaw> :p
22:57 < mnemoc> 1:)
22:57 < mnemoc> :)
22:57 < mnemoc> jsaw! do you want to fix root? please
22:57 < valentin> mnemoc: still awake since yesterday ?
22:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: oh, it's not compiling?
22:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: where's the e-log?
22:58 < mnemoc> valentin: ignoring less than 1 hour sleeps, since friday
22:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html
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22:59 < mnemoc> valentin: but from yesterday was 'direct'
23:00 < mnemoc> valentin: and today i'll have to continue
23:00 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you do right now ?
23:01 < rxr> valentin: can you search for me where the libspd bluethooth library comes from =?
23:01 < rxr> I miss it ...
23:02 < mnemoc> rxr: doing an app to generate a report 'taxes departament' wants for tomorrow
23:03 < mnemoc> rxr: with a sanction which starts at 2x$mnemoc_salary if 'we' deliver it late
23:03 < rxr> aha
23:03 < rxr> good luck
23:03 < valentin> libspd ?
23:04 < mnemoc> rxr: i need it, i don't want that 'discount' on my next monthes
23:04 < valentin> mnemoc: how much work left ? debugging stuff ?
23:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: I can't test, but looks like the "-fpermissive" is not there, did the variable name change (CXX_WRAPPER_INSERT) ?
23:05 < mnemoc> valentin: some migrations, debugging and rendering their weird 'file format'
23:05 < valentin> .oO
23:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'll reschedule to review cmd_wrapper.txt
23:07 < rxr> mnemoc: do you work first ;-)
23:07 < mnemoc> :p
23:07 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList -remove & Build-Target were some seconds of relaxing
23:07 < mnemoc> :)
23:08 < valentin> rxr: you want me to search an url of the project ?
23:09 < rxr> bin/ld: cannot find -lsdp
23:09 < rxr> I want to know where this bluetooth libsdp comes from
23:09 < rxr> so far I have not located some real information
23:09 < rxr> just some virtual debian package ...
23:11 < rxr> Description: Dummy package for Bluetooth SDP daemon and tools SDP tools moved to bluez-utils. It is safe to remove this package.
23:11 < rxr> hm
23:13 < rxr> maybe the multisync bluez support is just outdated like hell ... - damn
23:13 < rxr> I wanted to get my old contacts on my new cell ... - grummel ..
23:13 < rxr> .o(everything is best coded myself ...)
23:14 < valentin> yes, seems so
23:14 < valentin> http://cvsup.pt.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libsdp/
23:15 < valentin> but this seems to be a freebsd version
23:15 < mnemoc> my last migration rutine from dbf seems to be going ok.... after that only .svn would left
23:16 < mnemoc> .csv*
23:23 < rxr> ah - CVS works better:
23:23 < rxr> IRMC-Sync detected features:
23:23 < rxr> IrDA is ENABLED.
23:23 < rxr> Bluetooth is ENABLED.
23:23 < rxr> guess I'll update the over an year old multisync to CVS snapshot ...
23:27 < rxr> valentin: the driver core is really stable enough to scan thousand of pages in batch and handle document feeder jams gracefully ...
23:27 < rxr> not taht I would be suprised by the exact software, ... but nice to see anyway - considering we are not really scanning ourselfs at all
23:27 < sepp> good night *
23:27 < valentin> rxr :)
23:28 < valentin> gn8 sepp
23:28 < rxr> n8 sepp
23:29 < jsaw> g'night sepp
23:29 < rxr> it is quite cool the feed the just scanned pages of a AV220 directly back into the paper tray ...
23:29 < rxr> scanning and scanning and scanning ...
23:30 < jsaw> rxr: I sent the patches for embeddedSTL to the ml
23:31 < valentin> rxr: force termination of your pstreams: do you think it is just sufficient to send a signal to process processbuf -> pid ?
23:33 < rxr> sigterm ?
23:34 < rxr> jsaw: I want to convert all the exact makefiels to non-recursive ones soon anyway
23:34 < rxr> jsaw: I think I'll aply the patch tomorrow - thanks!
23:35 < jsaw> rxr: np (just bugging you so that I don't have to transfer these patches from one to another computer...)
23:35 < jsaw> :]
23:36 < rxr> I'll also really implement the stream classed - so that they do not crash in dietlibc and fully conform the standard
23:36 < rxr> and also that the pstream we use in T2 will work with the embeddedSTL
23:36 < rxr> and of course all the missing containers ...
23:36 < jsaw> :)
23:36 < rxr> but as long as I have no example code that utlize them ... ,-)
23:37 < rxr> but tomorrwo
23:37 < rxr> tomorrow the first scan server will ship ...
23:37 < rxr> pre production sample ...
23:37 < rxr> but I'm off soon
23:39 < jsaw> rxr: what's about type_traits? will this be added (sooner or later of course)?
23:42 < valentin> rxr: sigterm by default if no argument given by user
23:45 < valentin> i will be in bed soon, too
23:56 < valentin> gn8\
23:56 < jsaw> cu valentin
23:56 < morfoh> cu valentin ... zzzzzzZZZZZZleep well
23:56 < mnemoc> jsaw: + g++ -fpermissive -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=7 -fpermissive -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=7 -Wl,-rpath,/opt/root/lib -o bin/root.exe main/src/rmain.o -Llib -lCore -lCint -lHist -lGraf -lGraf3d -lGpad -lTree -lMatrix -lRint -lm -ldl -pthread -rdynamic -s -s
23:56 < jsaw> hmmm
23:56 < valentin> thx jsaw morfoh
23:56 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin :)
23:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: the last line of cmd_wrapper.txt
23:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: after correcting the bootdisk target, I'll start a full build...
23:57 < jsaw> (in trunk I mean)
23:57 < mnemoc> :\
23:58 < jsaw> sorry, doesn't look trivial...
23:58 < mnemoc> i noticed :)
23:58 < jsaw> oh,
23:58 < jsaw> there's something you could try...
23:59 < jsaw> in c(xx)flags, "-Os" is disabled
23:59 < jsaw> maybe disabling "-s" helps
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