--- Log opened Thu Jul 07 00:00:00 2005
00:00 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: rxr was right atm it runs on x86, but due to cross compile support it should work for other archs too. but it's not tested yet. I'll to commit the target soon
00:00 < _Ragnar_> yea ok
00:00 < _Ragnar_> do you have a specific embedded hardware you run on?
00:01 < sepp> hi morfoh, _Ragnar_ 
00:01 < morfoh> rxr_:  suggested also to merge the dev teams of the router and the upcoming firewall target 
00:02 < morfoh> I think that is a good idea and I have to talk to madtux 
00:03 < morfoh> to enhance the framework with grsec, rsbac or i.e. selinux 
00:04 < morfoh> and mnemoc wants to have his "nested targets" also as soon as possible ... that all together could be a quite good framework for build specialized systems 
00:06 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10051 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * updated scribus (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2.1)
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00:12 < morfoh> btw, did anyone saw our companero and stable release maintainer today ?
00:15 < _Ragnar_> :)
00:15 < _Ragnar_> selinux would be nice
00:15 < _Ragnar_> but probably overkill on a router
00:15 < morfoh> yep ....a at least on a small embedded one I think
00:16 < morfoh> anyway ... I don't want to use it
00:19 < morfoh> perhaps because of the driving force behind selinux ... dunno
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00:21 < keinek> hi
00:21 < keinek> everybody!
00:21 < morfoh> hi keinek aka "The GameBoy" :)
00:22 < keinek> :)
00:22 < morfoh> keinek: btw, did you subscribed to the t2-update mailing list ?
00:22 < keinek> i am in the mail list.
00:22 < keinek> :)
00:23 < morfoh> all 3 ? ;)
00:23 < keinek> only de mail list
00:23 < keinek> you know
00:23 < keinek> the las mail 
00:23 < keinek> the last mail
00:23 < keinek> is
00:23 < keinek> let me see
00:23 < keinek> ...
00:24 < keinek> minised svn repository (rebuild)
00:24 < keinek> what mail list is that?
00:24 < morfoh> yes ... but we've also a t2-updates list 
00:24 < keinek> and there is important?
00:24 < morfoh> which generates possible update candidates 
00:24 < keinek> mmmm i like that
00:24 < morfoh> yes ... if you maintain packages
00:24 < keinek> where is that mailist?
00:24 < morfoh> and there are some games I think which will need an upgrade ;)
00:25 < morfoh> mom
00:25 < keinek> ook
00:25 < keinek> is my work now
00:25 < keinek> ;)
00:25 < keinek> i like games.
00:25 < keinek> and emulators
00:25 < keinek> :)
00:25 < keinek> who subscribe to that list?
00:25 < morfoh> it's good to have a gamer here :)
00:25 < keinek> i can see that list by www?
00:25 < morfoh> yes
00:26 < keinek> is better
00:26 < keinek> where?
00:26 < morfoh> oh! www is down ?
00:26 < keinek> no!
00:26 < keinek> :D
00:27 < morfoh> I mean ... I can't get on http://www.t2-project.org
00:28 < sparc-kly> yeah is down 
00:28 < morfoh> hmmmm  ... valentin's server seems to be down :/
00:28 < morfoh> hi sparc-kly 
00:28 < sparc-kly> hi :P 
00:28 < morfoh> sparc-kly: :p
00:29 < keinek> hi sparc-kly 
00:29 < keinek> novak is your friend?
00:29 < sparc-kly> hey Mr. game
00:29 < keinek> :)
00:30 < sparc-kly> novak?
00:30 < keinek> yes, you know... "la granja"
00:30 < keinek> i was lost novak
00:30 < sparc-kly> ahhhh lagranga 
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00:30 < veki> hi
00:30 < sparc-kly> la granja dead 
00:31 < keinek> i was made a Red-handed radio program, and a interview with him, is there.
00:31 < keinek> also i talk about t2
00:31 < morfoh> hi vampire veki
00:31 < veki> hi :-)
00:32 < veki> My buuild finished with information for many packages that binary  tar.bz is not present and that those packages are skipped in package database
00:32 < morfoh> veki: sh*t
00:33 < morfoh> the mnemosyne from 2.1 branch ?
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00:33 < veki> morfoh: yes, I agree.  But let start to check where is the problem.  Is there any log file for that so we can track th eproblem if there is problem
00:33 < veki> hm, yes it is 2.1.rc1
00:34 < keinek> hey why dont add gngeo package to t2
00:34 < keinek> i make with all my hearth
00:34 < keinek> :'(
00:34 < veki> "-)
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00:50 < CIA-9> chris * r10052 /trunk/package/emulators/gngeo/ (. gngeo.desc): * added gngeo (0.6.4) provided by our new games tree maintainer. thanks keinek ;)
00:50 < keinek> Yiiiiiiiiipy!
00:50 < morfoh> keinek: :)
00:50 < keinek> we have gngeo!
00:50 < morfoh> yep .. I added it ;)
00:50 < keinek> now, we can play neo geo games.
00:50 < keinek> like
00:50 < keinek> puzzle bobble.
00:50 < keinek> :)
00:51 < morfoh> it was a smart package to intgrate .. thanks ;)
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01:29 < keinek> hi
01:42 < valentin> moin
01:57 < morfoh> hi valentin and good night ;)
01:58 < morfoh> valentin: http://www.t2-project.org/ <-- offline or maintenance ?
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02:13 < valentin> morfoh: oh ??
02:17 < valentin> morfoh: what is the problem ?
02:17 < valentin> i can reach that page ?
02:17 < morfoh> now it works
02:17 < morfoh> I guess it was a NS problem
02:17 < morfoh> because gsmp wasn't available too
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08:43 < minto> moin
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10:17 < rxr_> re
10:17 < minto> hi rxr
10:17 -!- You're now known as rxr
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10:23 < minto> hi karasz
10:23 < karasz> hi
10:23 < karasz> what's up?
10:25 < minto> Nearly finished x86-64 bootdisk
10:25 < minto> Then I can create a x86-64 minimal iso
10:25 < karasz> good foe you
10:25 < karasz> do not forget to include subversion....:)
10:26 < minto> :-) I know. It is not part of minimal
10:26 < minto> I added a trac issue for this. https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/20
10:27 < rxr> hehe ,-)
10:27 < minto> Nearly done. 
10:27 < minto> 165 builds total, 154 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:34 < karasz> build bootdisk target done...:)
10:36 < minto> Yuck, creating initrd failed.
10:36 < karasz> ?
10:36 < minto> Creating initrd data:
10:36 < minto> -> Create linuxrc binary.
10:36 < minto> /mnt/space/t2/2.1/build/boot-64-2.1.0-rc2-x86-64-bootdisk/usr/dietlibc/lib-x86_64/start.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
10:36 < minto> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
10:37 < karasz> after Build-Target bootdisk am I suposed to do anything before Create ISO?
10:38 < minto> I don't think so. Just ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk yourothertarget
10:40 < karasz> my Desktop target failed :((
10:40 < karasz> so now I only have bootdisk
10:40 < karasz> today I will try mnemosync target
10:40 < rxr> karasz: you try one target per day ? ,-)
10:41 < rxr> guess valentin is not yet up and running ...
10:41 < karasz> nope because you don't have 7 targets ...:)
10:41 < karasz> i'm compiling targets nearly for 7 days now
10:42 < karasz> you know PIII isn't known to be very fast nowdays..
10:43 < karasz> anyone interested in doing an general ISO?
10:43 < karasz> like the one available for P4?
10:43 < rxr> and - you start to like T2 ?
10:44 < karasz> strangely yes :)
10:44 < karasz> despite the obstacles.:)
10:44 < rxr> strange? I consider that normal
10:44 < minto> Yippie, boot target finished (after some trickery) and iso is done too.
10:44 < karasz> guess I start to like T2 because for me it represents a challange
10:45 < karasz> but now my Bash knoledge starts to grow
10:51 < karasz> i edited /config/target packages manualy..
10:51 < karasz> will i burn in hell for that?
10:54 < karasz> guess not
11:01 < minto> karasz: your will lose your changes after the next ./scrips/Config for that same target.
11:02 < minto> Generic Minimal is finished. The iso for this preliminary rc2 build can be found at:
11:02 < minto> http://multimach.dyndns.org/t2/iso/
11:06 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/minised/index.html
11:10 < karasz> now building mnemosyne --postgresql
11:19 < karasz> guys, in which package is located cfdisk?
11:21 < rxr> util-llinux
11:24 < rxr> http://www.funet.fi/pub/doc/posix/p1003.2/d11.2/all
11:26 < rxr> http://www.funet.fi/pub/doc/posix/
11:45 < CIA-9> rene * r10053 /trunk/package/archiver/zlib/zlib-1.2.2-inftrees.patch: * added recent zlib - SECURITY - patch from Gentoo
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11:54  * karasz got power breakdown :(
11:56  * karasz got to reboot
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12:07 < valentin> moin
12:07 < minto> hi valentin
12:08 < valentin> hi minto
12:10 < valentin> another zlib overflow !
12:10 < valentin> oh, rxr fixed it :)
12:11 < valentin> i wonder how long it will be lingering in submaster
12:11 < CIA-9> rene * r10054 /trunk/package/security/openssl/openssl.desc: * updated openssl (0.9.7g -> 0.9.8)
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12:23 < valentin> uh - terror in london ?
12:23 < rxr> london what ?
12:23 < valentin> some bombs exploded
12:49 < jsaw> hmm...
12:49 < jsaw> rehi
12:49 < karasz> brb
12:49 < karasz> hi jsaw
12:49 < valentin> hi
12:49 < jsaw> hi karasz valentin 
12:52 < jsaw> dax over 100 down...
12:52 < jsaw> stupid ppl
13:09 < jsaw> can somebody recommend me a wifi card for laptop?
13:12 < minto> .oO( rxr: you probably know what to do with this )
13:12 < minto> == 13:09:04 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.29 2.2.0-alpha].
13:12 < minto> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 50.00% cache hits so far.
13:12 < minto> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (statically).
13:12 < minto> -> No settings needed.
13:12 < minto> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
13:12 < minto> -> Preparing build in src.dietlibc.20050707.130902.11704.noisy
13:12 < minto> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-dietlibc.out
13:12 < minto> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 0.00% (0 hits, 0 misses)
13:12 < minto> !> dyn_start.c:42: internal compiler error: in named_sectio ..
13:12 < minto> !> Please submit a full bug report,
13:12 < minto> !> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
13:12 < minto> !> See <URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
13:12 < minto> !> make: *** [bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o] Error 1
13:12 < minto> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-dietlibc.log file!
13:13 < minto> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins ..
13:13 < minto> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-dietlibc.out -> 1-dietlibc.err
13:13 < minto> == 07/07/05 13:09:08 =[1]=> Aborted building package dietlibc.
13:13 < jsaw> ICE ohoh
13:13 < jsaw> minto: gcc --version?
13:14 < minto> 3.4.3
13:14 < jsaw> giving 3.4.4 a try?
13:14 < minto> I will, thanks
13:16 < minto> hmm, 3.4.4 not yet in T2. I guess I have to upgrade gcc them.
13:16 < jsaw> yep
13:23 < jsaw> minto: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9552
13:23 < jsaw> minto: if you're cross-building, that might be for you
13:23 < minto> I am not really cross building
13:25 < jsaw> check the bug anyway
13:25 < minto> I will
13:32 < jsaw> valentin: ping
13:33 < rxr> re
13:33 < rxr> I updated to 3.4.4
13:33 < rxr> it miscompiled the kernel ...
13:33 < rxr> however it might have been due to my adapted SSP ...
13:34 < jsaw> rxr: recommendation for wlan (54Mbit) ?
13:34 < jsaw> (pcmcia/pccard)
13:34 < minto> rxr: When do you think gcc 3.4.4 will be ready to commit?
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13:36 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
13:38 < rxr> jsaw: no idea - I did not followed which chips work under linux and which not ...
13:38 < rxr> minto: I do not actively work on getting gcc 3.4.4 in ...
13:38 < rxr> it wasted a full day of mine miscompiling the linux kernel on x86 and I'll not have time to investigate this some time soon ...
13:38 < rxr> the thing I would work on next is gettin 4.0.1 into trunk some time soon
13:38 < minto> rxr: building dietlibc in trunk (on noisy) makes gcc crash.
13:38 < rxr> probably after my holida
13:39 < rxr> y
13:39 < rxr> minto: I know
13:39 < rxr> this is long known ..
13:39 < rxr> the PR you linked here says it is invalid code ...
13:39 < rxr> did you try making the .eh_frame thing const?
13:39 < minto> No, I have not looked too deep into it.
13:40 < rxr> just downdating dietlibc helps ...
13:41 < rxr> 0.29 has begun to support exception handling - that made x86-64 break ...
13:41 < minto> ack
13:41 < rxr> maybe the .eh_frame is not declared const ...
13:41 < rxr> that makes gcc ICE on that then invalid code ...
13:42 < minto> I will try to look into it.
13:42 < jsaw> depends on system afaihu the bug report
13:50 < jsaw> gotta go
13:50 < jsaw> cu
13:50 < minto> cu jsaw
13:50 < morfoh> hi minto rxr jsaw 
13:51 < CIA-9> rene * r10055 /trunk/package/filesystem/disktype/disktype.desc: * moved disktype before linux26 since it is needed for the new initrd
13:51 < minto> hi morfoh, what took you so long :-)
13:51 < morfoh> :)
13:51 < morfoh> I didn't recognized that th irc client was already started
13:51 < minto> BTW, iso is ready
13:51 < morfoh> and I was reading
13:51 < morfoh> :D
13:52 < morfoh> btw, what does our contact at the dutch police say about the london "event" ?
13:52 < morfoh> I say ... thanks again good timing folks and everybody is singing the Al Q**** song
13:55 < minto> its a shame
13:55 < morfoh> why the h*ll do they wired whole london and installing cams on every corner then ?
13:56 < minto> Why can black ants and white ants not work together?
13:56 < morfoh> what do you mean ?
13:56 < minto> morfoh: Not for prevention but for finding out afterwards
13:57 < morfoh> yeah after they tweaked the pictures
13:57 < minto> I meant, Why do people always have to kill each other. Just because one thinks different than another?
13:57 < morfoh> minto: I think that's not the major problem
13:58 < minto> It mostly comes down to religion or money. I thinks its both here.
13:58 < morfoh> the problem is that the EU politicians preparing the people for doing more wars
13:59 < morfoh> like GWB did with 911
14:00 < morfoh> and anyway most "te**or groups" are remote controlled by agencies
14:00 < minto> I wonder if Al (Q)Bundy is finances by the CIA
14:00 < morfoh> so through political structures
14:00 < morfoh> minto: they are definitely
14:01 < morfoh> minto: it's a kind of symboitic relation ship
14:01 < morfoh> symbiotic
14:02 < morfoh> and again ... a unknown group has claimed they were responsible acting for Al Q
14:02 < valentin> please no conspiration theorys
14:02 < morfoh> valentin: don't talk about conspiration theories
14:02 < morfoh> valentin: and btw ... what are conspiration theories ?
14:02 < valentin> the fact about Al Q is, it is no network at all. hundreds of separate radical islamistic organizations around the globe, everybody claiming to be AlQ
14:03 < morfoh> valentin: wrong
14:03 < morfoh> valentin: Al Q. means "List"
14:03 < valentin> and it means Toilet
14:03 < valentin> no joke !
14:04 < morfoh> valentin: this was the list OBL has to start for regestering his "freedom fighters"
14:04 < morfoh> sponsered by C*A
14:04 < valentin> yes, but this list has few to do with most active groups today
14:05 < morfoh> valentin: as few as the old structures from the "Wehrmacht" are present in our current army ?
14:05 < morfoh> valentin: I think this structures can "live" quite long
14:06 < valentin> morfoh: most middle eastern terror groups existed before afghanistan/russian war
14:06 < valentin> it is true that the CIA supported those groups for a long time
14:06 < morfoh> you just have to read the different stories compiled by international scientists at http://www.globalresarch.org
14:06 < valentin> but they did not invent the terror
14:07 < valentin> s/terror/islamistic terror/
14:24 < valentin> rxr: minised fed from stdin is one line delayed
14:26 < valentin> http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/html/result.xhtml?url=/tp/r4/artikel/17/17861/1.html
14:28 < valentin> [cite] "Qa'ada" is the infinitive of the verb "to sit". "Ma-Qa'ad" is a chair. "Al-Qaeda" is the base or fundament of something. "Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet".
14:30 < valentin>  A very common and widespread use of the word "Al-Qaeda" in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada" which mean "to sit", pertinently, on the "Toilet Bowl". In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qaeda" also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or "Arab toilet" which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty 
14:38 < valentin> quite heavy thunderstorm here
14:39 < valentin> hope my hardware will survive
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14:56 < azureus> hi
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15:54 < valentin> re
15:55 < morfoh> valentin: what a thunderstorm you talked of ? here ?
15:56 < valentin> yes
15:56 < valentin> almost gone now
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15:57 < morfoh> it's sunny here in the south
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16:04 < rxr> valentin: I call you
16:04 < rxr> valentin: around ?
16:11 < valentin> zes
16:11 < valentin> yes even
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16:20 < karasz> re hi
16:20 < karasz> mnemoc around ?
16:24 < karasz> anybody can help with mnemosyne build?
16:26 < karasz> no one?
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16:28 < karasz> hi mnemoc
16:29 < karasz> just the guy i was waiting for
16:29 < karasz> :)
16:29 < karasz> mnemosync target is your brainchild?
16:30 < mnemoc> :)
16:30 < mnemoc> mnemosyne is the mother of the muses
16:31 < karasz> i found something in it...
16:31 < karasz> maybe you should look at ot
16:31 < karasz> maybe you should look at it...
16:31 < mnemoc> yes
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16:45 < karasz> hi minto
16:46 < minto> hi karasz and others.
16:46 < mnemoc> rxr: you may have broke flwrapper....
16:47 < mnemoc> karasz: please rebuild
16:49 < karasz> no changes just ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg?
16:49 < mnemoc> yes
16:49 < karasz> i enable 6 jobs..
16:50 < rxr> mnemoc: details
16:50 < karasz> before there were only 4
16:50 < mnemoc> karasz: can you paste what you pasted to me to rxr?
16:50 < karasz> yes
16:50 < karasz> here or query?
16:50 < mnemoc> query
16:59 < karasz> i'll be back in 30 mins
17:14 < CIA-9> mtr * r10056 /trunk/package/gnome2/balsa/balsa.desc: * updated balsa (2.2.6 -> 2.3.4)
17:17 < CIA-9> mtr * r10057 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvb-firmware/dvb-firmware.desc: * updated dvb-firmware (2005-02-15 -> 2005-07-05)
17:18 < CIA-9> mtr * r10058 /trunk/package/develop/gambas/gambas.desc: * updated gambas (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
17:19 < CIA-9> mtr * r10059 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdl/gdl.desc: * updated gdl (0.5.0 -> 0.6.0)
17:30 < karasz> i'm back
17:31 < minto> hi karasz, what was that error that rxr might have caused?
17:34 < karasz> hi minto
17:34 < karasz> <mnemoc> rxr: you may have broke flwrapper....
17:34 < karasz> whatever it means :)
17:35 < mnemoc> his flwrapper detected things which is imposible to happen inside the build
17:39 < karasz> hmmm...
17:40 < karasz> and how could i fix that?
17:40 < karasz> or is beyond my knowledge?
17:40 < rxr> I have no time to look into it right now
17:41 < rxr> are you sure it happens only with my flist wrapper change ?
17:41 < mnemoc> .wapi thing belongs to a running mono-xsp
17:41 < mnemoc> which _can't_ be happening inside 1-gettext
17:47 < karasz> guys..
17:47 < karasz> update
17:48 < karasz> i rerun config and changed paralel jobs back to 4 from 6
17:48 < karasz> gettext build this time
17:48 < karasz> although....
17:48 < karasz> Creating file list and doing final adaptions ... 
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /root/.wapi/shared_data-localhost-3-0
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /root/.wapi/shared_scratch-localhost-3-0
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /usr/tmp/cf17652
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /usr/tmp/cf17652/conftest9012345
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /usr/tmp/cf17652/conftest9012346
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /var/tmp/cf17652
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17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /var/tmp/cf17652/conftest9012345
17:48 < karasz> Created (vanished) file outside basedir (ignored): /var/tmp/cf17652/conftest9012346
17:48 < karasz> but this time it build and went on
17:48 < veki> hi
17:49 < karasz> hi veki
17:49 < veki> how are you
17:49 < minto> He I got something similar. See https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/12
17:49 < veki> I am building mnemosyne target and so far it goes well
17:49 < minto> hi veki
17:49 < veki> hi
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17:51 < karasz> i dunno what to say mnemoc second try goes well
17:51 < karasz> gettext is built
17:51 < karasz> despite the vanished files...
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17:53 < veki> :-)
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17:56 < sepp> hi
17:56 < karasz> hi
17:58 < veki> hi
17:59 < sepp> hi karasz, veki *
18:01 < veki> hi :-D
18:06 < veki> which cdplayer console based you recommend to be Emerged
18:12 < sepp> hmm i dont play cd maybe ask freshmeat.net
18:13 < karasz> i had good experiences with cdcd
18:13 < karasz> not in T2 
18:14 < karasz> http://cdcd.undergrid.net/
18:14 < veki> hm, I need one on my t2 machine
18:15 < karasz> try http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Multimedia/AudioCD/index.shtml
18:15 < veki> It is borring to seat without music and wait target to be built
18:15 < karasz> and find one from there which is in T2 also
18:29 < karasz> maybe you can try sox
18:29 < karasz> "It doesn't do anything very well, but sooner or later it comes very handy."
18:30 < veki> hm, I will try
18:30 < veki> I cannot find anything that is on t2
18:30 < karasz> sox is on T2
18:30 < veki> yes, I am emeging it
18:31 < veki> I thought that there i sno cdplay cdp or similar cd players
18:32 < minto> adding cdcd as a t2 package should be pretty straight forward.
18:33 < veki> yes, I think, can you do that?
18:35 < minto> You could too. I am willing to help.
18:38 < veki> hm, what i shall do, i am ready to start
18:39 < minto> Have you picked the package you want to add?
18:39 < veki> I am doing that right now, let say cdcd as you recommmended
18:40 < minto> First try to download it manually. 
18:41 < veki> OK
18:46 < veki> hm it requires libcdaudio library
18:47 < karasz> hrom where did you dlded?
18:47 < karasz> from where did you dlded?
18:47 < karasz> official link doesn't seem to work
18:48 < veki> yes, official link does not seem to work
18:48 < karasz> T2 has libcdaudio
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18:49 < veki> OK, but i cannot find cdcd
18:50 < karasz> nocdcd in T2 just libcdaudio
18:50 < veki> should we use maybe imp3sh which is OK, I do have it on my laptop.  It is shell based and it plays mp3s, CDs etc.
18:50 < karasz> and about cdcd
18:50 < minto> A few packages are using libcdaudio, but no console cd player
18:50 < minto> root@devserver:~/t2/trunk# grep libcdaudio package/*/*/*.cache
18:50 < minto> package/e16/epplets16/epplets16.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < karasz> sourceforge.net is your friend
18:50 < minto> package/gnome2/gst-plugins/gst-plugins.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < minto> package/kde/kdemultimedia/kdemultimedia.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < minto> package/multimedia/blender/blender.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < minto> package/multimedia/mythtv/mythtv.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < minto> package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.cache:[DEP] libcdaudio
18:50 < veki> ok
18:50 < veki> I am going to sourceforge to check
18:50 < karasz> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/libcdaudio/cdcd-0.6.6.tar.gz?download
18:52 < veki> OK,
18:52 < karasz> seems to me that cdcd project is a little mingled
18:52 < karasz> maybe the guys from libcdaudio took over
18:53 < veki> I got it
18:53 < veki> where I should put it
18:53 < karasz> on official page version 0.5.0 on sourceforge 0.6.6
18:53 < karasz> ?
18:53 < karasz> strange
18:54 < veki> I found 0.50 on Tucows
18:54 < veki> and I got it
18:54 < veki> whre I should put it on t2?
18:55 < minto> sorry I was distracted.
18:55 < veki> OK
18:56 < minto> Maybe last version is best.
18:56 < veki> hm , let follow official version
18:56 < veki> ok?
18:56 < minto> now add a package directory to t2. Best might be packages/multimedia/cdcd
18:56 < minto> Fine with me.
18:56 < veki> OK, how can I do that from my machine
18:57 < minto> Do it in you checked out t2 subversion tree.
18:57 < veki> hm, guys, I have to go now, I will be back tonight and I will follow
18:57 < veki> OK?
18:57 < minto> Go to the directory where you normally do ./scripts/Build-Target
18:57 < minto> ok
18:58 < veki> ok
18:58 < veki> Ok, I am there, I have 5 minutes
18:58 < minto> cu veki
18:58 < veki> I have 5 minutes
18:58 < karasz> cu guys
18:58 < minto> Okay, do a cd packages/multimedia
18:58 < veki> I am in that directory, what i snext?
18:58 < karasz> i will be back in a couple of hours
18:58 < minto> cu karasz
18:59 < minto> there you can mkdir cdcd
18:59 < veki> cu, I am here 5 inues more
18:59 < veki> OK
18:59 < veki> jus at amonet to do that
18:59 < karasz> minto i promise to shut up when other guys talk ;)
19:00 < minto> karasz: no need for that
19:00 < veki> I have done that, copied tar.gz in packages.multimedia/cdcd
19:00 < veki> what is next
19:00 < minto> veki: The download comes later. First  go into that cdcd directory.
19:00 < veki> OK
19:01 < veki> I am there
19:01 < minto> copy and existing .desc file from an other package. for instance cp ../vls/vls.desc
19:02 < veki> OK, it was avifile.desc
19:02 < minto> fine. mv avifile.desc cdcd.desc and then edit cdcd.desc
19:03 < veki> OK
19:03 < veki> opened and renamed
19:04 < veki> should I put short dexcription of cdcd inside
19:04 < minto> make sure the [COPY] tags refere to cdcd/cdcd.desc
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19:04 < minto> any reference in [COPY] tags to Rock linux can be removed.
19:04 < veki> OK, I really have to go now, but I will be back later
19:04 < veki> cu
19:05 < minto> cu veki
19:05 < veki> I will conti ue later
19:05 < minto> ack
19:05 < mnemoc> minto: do you know misc/archive/newpackage.sh ? or fmnewpackage.sh? :)
19:05 < veki> thanks
19:05 < minto> mnemoc: probably not. Might have been quicker.
19:06 < minto> mnemoc: what is the difference between the 2?
19:07 < mnemoc> one receives a list of download locations, and the second the package name on freshmeat
19:09 < minto> Hmm, the freshmeat one might be quite handy.
19:16 < mnemoc> i haven't used it in years, but it should work
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19:33 < rxr> 1715 pages in T2 ...
19:36 < mnemoc> ?
19:39 < rxr> packages ..
19:43 < mnemoc> removing -s didn't help to build 'root' :(
20:21 < mnemoc> rxr: http://opensource.perlig.de/svnmailer/
20:26 < karasz_2> re hi everybody
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20:33 < valentin> re
20:36 < karasz> mnemosyne target buildig fine now at [5]glibc
20:38 < CIA-9> amery * r10060 /branches/2.1/package/develop/libowfat/ (dietlibc.patch libowfat.conf libowfat.desc): * merged 9021 from trunk: updated libowfat (0.22 -> 0.23)
20:39 < CIA-9> amery * r10061 /branches/2.1/package/base/dump/dump.desc: * merged 9153 from trunk: updated dump (0.4b39 -> 0.4b40)
20:41 < CIA-9> amery * r10062 /branches/2.1/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.desc: * merged 9427 from trunk: updated libdaemon (0.7 -> 0.8)
20:57 < karasz> veki ?
20:59 < karasz> failed again
21:00 < karasz> failed build [5]glibc 
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21:03 < mnemoc> karasz: 5-glibc is the notation :)
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21:04 < minto> Where can I find PKG-CATEGORIES file?
21:06 < karasz> minto question for you
21:07 < karasz> can you give me a irc link to this chanel to use it in chatzilla?
21:07 < karasz> thanks mnemoc
21:08 < karasz> :)
21:11 < mnemoc> minto: misc/share
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21:13 < CIA-9> amery * r10063 /branches/2.1/package/textproc/pdfjam/ (6 files): * merged 9521 from trunk: added pdfjam (1.20)
21:14 < karasz> guys I am a little lost here
21:15 < minto> karasz: Sorry, I was on the phone. 
21:15 < minto> What do you want to know?
21:15 < karasz> I only managed to build bootdisk-rescue target :).....:(
21:15 < karasz> I managed it thanks minto 
21:15 < minto> ack
21:16 < karasz> how does adding cdcd pack go?
21:16 < mnemoc> uhm?
21:16 < minto> Actually I want veki to do it. So he learns how to add packages.
21:16 < karasz> I understood that
21:16 < karasz> but I was following your explanations
21:17 < minto> I haven't seen him for a while.
21:17 < karasz> and I wanted to know if I missed something
21:17 < karasz> aham...
21:17 < minto> No you haven't. Mnemoc even pointed me to a better way.
21:18 < karasz> in the mean time I really do not inderstand why I'm interested in adding packages, when I haven't build succesfully any target
21:18 < karasz> beside bootdisk
21:18 < minto> What other targets have you tried.
21:19 < karasz> all beside Generic and router
21:19 < karasz> not with the same trunk though
21:20 < minto> Are you still working in the extracted tar I gave you?
21:20 < karasz> nope
21:20 < minto> You have a svn checkout, right?
21:20 < karasz> the guys instructed me to use the stable branch
21:20 < minto> Yeah, that's probably better.
21:20 < karasz> what dou you mean by checkout?
21:21 < mnemoc> a working copy instead of an snapshot
21:22 < minto> ahh.
21:22 < mnemoc> svn info . on your t2 root
21:26 < karasz> not again ...grrrrr :(
21:26 < karasz> svn info
21:26 < karasz> svn: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libaprutil-0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdbm_errno
21:27 < minto> karasz: maybe should do a new Emerge-Pkg subversion
21:28 < karasz> I will do that
21:28 < karasz> >:-(
21:28 < minto> Don't be mad with us 
21:28 < karasz> but I guess thats my fault
21:28 < karasz> no way
21:28 < karasz> im mad with me
21:28 < minto> What have you done to mess things up.
21:28 < karasz> not with you
21:29 < karasz> i mine -iv a half buld desktop package
21:29 < karasz> guess that messed up my svn too
21:30 < minto> karasz: no need to do mine -iv for target being build half. They are not installed.
21:30 < CIA-9> amery * r10064 /branches/2.1/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * merged 9120 from trunk: updated libidn (0.5.16 -> 0.5.17)
21:30 < minto> Build-Target builds everything in ./build/<targetname + something>
21:30 < minto> Only Emerge-Pkg directly installs into the host system.
21:31 < karasz> karasz: no need to do mine -iv for target being build half. They are not installed.
21:31 < karasz> now I know
21:31 < karasz> :)
21:31 < minto> If you want to remove a half build target/config just use ./scripts/Cleanup -build build/<targename + something>
21:32  * _Ragnar_ sees dietlibc still doesn't build with stackguard :p
21:33 < karasz> +something?
21:34 < minto> I for instance have:
21:34 < minto> build/generic-minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-generic
21:35 < minto> generic-minimal = configname
21:35 < minto> 2.2.0-alpha = t2 version
21:35 < minto> x86 = platform
21:35 < minto> generic = target
21:35 < karasz> removing now
21:35 < karasz> and emerging subversion
21:35 < karasz> in paralel
21:37 < minto> Not the same configname I hope.
21:39 < karasz> no
21:39 < minto> good
21:39 < karasz> removing my old one
21:40 < karasz> and emerging subversion in a brand new default
21:41 < minto> I useally do not use default myself, I always give the config a meaningful name.
21:41 < karasz> but i think i still have a problem
21:41 < minto> What problem?
21:41 < karasz> my removed desktop target still lingers around
21:42 < karasz> for example i still have /etc/X11
21:42 < minto> Are you sure you did Build-Target only?
21:43 < minto> Like I said Emerge-Pkg installs in root and Build-Target installs in ./build/<targetname + something>
21:43 < karasz> I am sure that after Buyild-Target I did mine -iv /build..../desktop....
21:43 < karasz> sily me..
21:45 < karasz> now Im really doomed
21:45 < minto> Ahh, mine -i installs
21:45 < minto> If you system still runs you are not necessarily doomed.
21:46 < karasz> i havent rebooted since..
21:48 < karasz> or have I o_O
21:48 < karasz> ?
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22:19 < karasz> cannot emerge subversion
22:19 < karasz> fails to build neon sub-jdk and wxpython
22:19 < karasz> :-?
22:20 < karasz> jdk, wxpython for subversion?
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22:21 < mnemoc> karasz: see the error
22:21 < mnemoc> karasz: probably the lack of apr
22:21 < sepp> add "-deps=none" to the Emerge command line
22:22 < karasz> i think it's minos tarball lingering around
22:22 < karasz> because it says jdk-amd64...
22:22 < sepp> subversion.cache looks strange
22:23 < mnemoc> sub-jdk has amd64 [D]s also
22:23 < mnemoc> sun-jdk
22:23 < mnemoc> Emerge downloads everything
22:23 < karasz> jdk-___-linux-amd64.bin
22:24 < mnemoc> -deps=none
22:24 < mnemoc> Emerge deps solving is too agressive
22:25 < karasz> Packages scheduled to buid: none
22:25 < karasz> :=?
22:25 < karasz> :-?
22:25 < karasz> i guess it is time to start all over again
22:26 < karasz> clean install of T2
22:26 < karasz> svn
22:26 < karasz> then build
22:27 < mnemoc> -rc2 minimal will have subversion
22:27 < karasz> so i wait?
22:27 < mnemoc> no
22:27 < mnemoc> i don't have time for rc2 this week :'(
22:27 < karasz> can i install rc2 minimal on PIII?
22:27 < karasz> no hurry for me
22:27 < karasz> if i can install it on PIII
22:28 < mnemoc> i build minimal for pmmx
22:28 < karasz> that's fine for me
22:28 < karasz> so not this week... maybe the next?
22:29 < karasz> or is there anything that I can do to help you?
22:29 < mnemoc> not released, but tagged and minimal iso
22:29 < karasz> what dou you mean by tagged?
22:29 < karasz> i didn't understood :(
22:30 < mnemoc> labeled, on subversion
22:30 < karasz> but svn to stable said something about rc2
22:30 < karasz> if i remembered corectly
22:31 < mnemoc> yes, it will _become_ rc2
22:31 < mnemoc> after tagging, branches/2.1 will be rc3 or.... final i hope
22:31 < karasz> ahm...
22:32 < mnemoc> but next week anyway
22:32 < mnemoc> i'm  busy^busy this days 
22:33 < karasz> next week is fine by me
22:33 < karasz> thanks a lot
22:34 < mnemoc> yw :)
22:42  * minto is tired and needs to get up early.
22:42 < minto> gn8 all.
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23:13 < veki> hi
23:21 < valentin> hi veki
23:21 < valentin> did you see that minto did a package for you ?
23:21 < valentin> 22:05 < CIA-9> msluis * r10065 /trunk/package/multimedia/cdcd/ (. cdcd.desc): * added cdcd (0.6.6)
23:21 < valentin> 22:06 < minto> veki: I added cdcd for you. Have a look at package/multimedia/cdcd/cdcd.desc This is all that is required
23:21 < valentin>                to add simple packages.
23:31 < sepp> good night all
23:44 < veki> hi, excuse me I was absent a couple of minutes trying to set up X on one machine
23:45 < veki> this is great!!!:D
23:45 < veki> I would like to learn that to do on my own and thus to help you guys
23:47 < veki> I am Emergeing cdcd right now
23:48 < veki> I would like to know that procedure
23:50 < mnemoc> veki: minto did you a very explicative leason
23:52 < veki> yes, but I was not present att he time so I was not following him.  I suppose that it is not complicated, but I was not there
23:53 < veki> I will check what he has done
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