--- Log opened Sat Jul 09 00:00:00 2005
00:00 < valentin> gn8 all
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00:02 < veki> good night
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00:51 < sepp> hi all
00:51  * sepp has power again :)
00:51 < veki> hi
00:52 < sepp> big power failure here last hour
00:52 < veki> so, you are night bird as I am :-) we are awake all night
00:52 < veki> huh
00:52 < sepp> was really dark outside for dresden
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00:52 < keinek> hi
00:53 < veki> hi
00:53 < veki> sepp: so you are OK now
00:53 < sepp> yes
00:53 < veki> good to hear :-)
00:54 < sepp> i found a new way to use notebooks, if you dont find the candle - open your notebook and start a white xterm ...
00:56 < veki> hm, good :-)
00:56 < veki> I use whiteish background on my laptop when I am working in darkness. somewtimes when i am tired I turn off the light and light from the background on my desktop is enough
00:57 < sepp> last time power went down 3 days :'(
00:58 < sepp> i thought i have to use candles for some days again
00:58 < veki> hm, so you do have so much trouble with power?
00:58 < sepp> hm not really 
00:59 < veki> maybe we can invent coal powered computers with steam pipes :-)
00:59 < sepp> hehe or sun power
00:59 < veki> we have had power troubles when NATO guys were bombing us, but we survived :-)
01:00 < sepp> but now its peaceful ?
01:00 < veki> sun power that is good idea, but during the snowy or rainy days coal may be fine :-)
01:00 < veki> oh, yes that was in 1999, because of vibrations windows on our buildings were broken . we cellotaped them in order to prevent breaking apart which may hurt someone.  Those, cellotaoped windows we called windows99
01:01 < sepp> but there are still soldiers around?
01:03 < veki> in opne way or another yes, there are still missiles which have not exploded yet.  They are digged in the earth but it i stricky to digg them out because they can explode, but those mssiles are big.  So, guys whoa re willing to risk their lives may be blown out
01:03 < veki> sometimes those missiles make whole in the earth approx. 30 meters deep and approx 70 meters wide
01:04 < sepp> uhmm 
01:04 < veki> ah, yes as you may guess they have never solved anything they just complicate things 
01:04 < sepp> that does not sound very good
01:05 < veki> yes, this does not sound good
01:06 < sepp> who takes the job to explode them?
01:08 < veki> hm, noone , they stay unexploded and it is possible that they can explode on their own, they may be activated by sun, thunders, vibrations etc..  However, some missilies like that are in populated areas
01:10 < sepp> uhm
01:12 < veki> ah, yes, there are a couple of buildings in town that have been bombed and they are not reconstructed yet
01:12 < sepp> and my biggest problem was that i had no power for 1h or so
01:12 < veki> that is good :-)
01:13 < sepp> good reality adjustment ...
01:14 < veki> hm, it is needed :-)
01:14 < veki> do you know that song: aqualung my friends , that is not so easy
01:15 < sepp> no
01:15 < veki> ah, that is very old song by the band Jethro Tull from UK
01:16 < veki> it is approx from 1974 or something like that
01:17 < veki> it is good rock and roll song, but musically  somehow rock and roll, but also complex
01:17 < veki> live version from the live album Bursting Out is really cool :-)
01:18 < veki> good el. guitar solo...
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01:18 < sepp> hmm i'll ask the local lib.
01:19 < veki> sepp: yes, I recommend you, they do have a good mixture of heavy rock, ballads, and a sort of flute baroque
01:20 < veki> one technical question: how to start nfs on t2?
01:22 < veki> I suppose /etc/init.d/netfs start
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01:22 < sepp> /sbin/init.d/ ...
01:23 < veki> hm
01:23 < veki> ok, so /sbin/init.d/ is the secon method
01:23 < sepp> it is a link to /sbin/init.d/
01:24 < veki> yes, I supposed so
01:24 < veki> I am comparing procedures on BSD and t2
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01:38 < sepp> i'll go now and enjoy that i can read a book without notebook light again :)
01:38 < sepp> see you
01:38 < veki> ok, good :-)
02:05 < veki> I am going to sleep, cu
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03:13 < Postal> hey all
03:13 < Postal> congrats all on 1700+ packages
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08:26 < minto> good morning all
08:39 < CIA-9> msluis * r10069 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions): 
08:39 < CIA-9> * Erase positional parameters before loading O tag script (.desc
08:39 < CIA-9>  file). We do not want to pass the current positional parameters
08:39 < CIA-9>  to the loaded script.
09:26 < CIA-9> msluis * r10070 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in: 
09:26 < CIA-9> * Implementated apache ant support.
09:26 < CIA-9> * Build type auto detection can be turned off (NO_AUTO_DETECT)
09:26 < CIA-9> * Java build type can be forced (BUILD_TYPE=[ANT,MAVEN,SCRIPT])
09:31 < CIA-9> msluis * r10071 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/ (apache-ant.conf apache-ant.desc): 
09:31 < CIA-9> * Ant build is down with auto detection turned off (NO_AUTO_DETECT)
09:31 < CIA-9> * Ant binaries get a link in (pkgprefix bindir java-dirtree)
09:33 < CIA-9> msluis * r10072 /trunk/package/java/commons-cli/ (. commons-cli.desc): * added commons-cli (1.0) Apache Jakarta Commons CLI.
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10:02 < rxr_> re
10:03 -!- You're now known as rxr
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10:10 < veki> hi
10:16 < minto> hi veki
10:17 < minto> hi rxr
10:17 < rxr> hey minto 
10:17 < veki> hi
10:17 < veki> minto: I am listening cd on my t2 from console.  Thank you
10:18 < veki> :-)
10:18 < minto> yw :-)
10:19 < veki> I needed readline library, libcdaudio and emergeing of cdcd was OK
10:19 < minto> veki: hava a close look at the desc file and http://www.exactcode.de/products/t2-handbook/ and you can add the next package yourself.
10:20 < veki> ok
10:20 < minto> I gotta go now. cu
10:20 < veki> cu
10:31 < valentin> moin
10:31 < rxr> moin
10:31 < veki> hello :-)
10:32 < valentin> hi veki
10:32 < veki> hi, how are you
10:36 < valentin> hi rxr
10:37 < valentin> veki: good, thanks
10:37 < veki> ok, great :D
10:46 < rxr> valentin: you do nto want to review an alsa asoundrc article ?
10:48 < rxr> Ubuntu Foundation erh??lt 10 Millionen US-Dollar Startkapital
10:48 < rxr> my god ...
10:49 < veki> h, how they got so much money at once
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10:50 < valentin> rxr: we discussed that yesterday
10:53  * rxr back to scanners
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11:43 < karasz> hi everybody
11:45 < karasz> hmmm....
11:45 < karasz> quiet in here
11:45 < karasz> bye
11:45 < karasz> cu on monday
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14:28 < rxr> note to self: iAudio X5
14:29 < rxr> http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/
14:30 < rxr> It supports OGG as well as FLAC (a lossless compressed codec)
14:31 < rxr> hey - they officially support Linux
14:31 < rxr> Use Mac or Linux? No problem!! iAUDIO X5 is available to be used on Mac or Linux OS.
14:31 < rxr> and instead of a Mac logo they have a tux ...
14:38 < rxr> Ballmer on Innovation:  "Did IBM out innovate us? I don't think so. I don't think they've done much interesting at all. What about Oracle? I don't think they've done much innovative at all. What about the open source guys? Ah, the business model is interesting but we haven't seen much in the way of technical innovation. People cite Google. Google has done some interesting stuff."
14:40 < valentin> how much innovation was there from M$ ?
14:40 < valentin> windows - copied
14:40 < valentin> dos - bought
14:40 < rxr> wanted to write the later as well ...
14:40 < valentin> M$ office - Star Office
14:41 < rxr> I rather thinkg workd perfect or so ...
14:41 < valentin> Longhorn - OSX
14:41 < rxr> and Framework and co ...
14:41 < valentin> IE 7 - firefox and others
14:41 < valentin> win nt - os/2
14:42 < valentin> doubledisk - stacker
14:42 < valentin> microsoft game studios - a big bunch of bought studios and titles
14:43 < rxr> you need to list the real first implementor on the right side ..
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14:43 < rxr> that is Netscape for IE ...
14:43 < valentin> yes
14:43 < valentin> i put it the other way round
14:44 < valentin> they invented BSOD
14:44 < valentin> and a registry noone can fix manually
14:45 < rxr> the blue screen of dead equivalnt was there before as well ..
14:45 < rxr> macs, amiga all had their "guru meditation" dump screens ...
14:46 < valentin> ok :)
14:46 < CIA-9> rene * r10073 /trunk/package/security/dropbear/dropbear.desc: * updated dropbear (0.45 -> 0.46)
14:46 < valentin> so what about backup.exe
14:46 < valentin> this was a real innovation
14:46 < rxr> backup.exe ?
14:46 < rxr> what was that ?
14:46 < valentin> taking 5h to compress 1 Mb of data to 8kb using runlength encoding
14:47 < valentin> to 800kb
14:47 < valentin> of course
14:47 < valentin> the stupid windows compression program
14:47 < valentin> until it was exchanged by winzip - which was not from M$ of course
14:48 < valentin> i'll take a shower now, cu
14:48 < rxr> what about minesweeper - or shipping s.th. as lousy as paint.exe or image.exe - or even this editor.exe that are all just worth a lough
14:48 < valentin> minesweeper existed before
14:48 < rxr> cu 
14:49 < rxr> ouhm :-(
14:49 < valentin> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minesweeper
14:50 < valentin> ok, it seems to be a M$ invention in fact
14:51 < rxr> hah
14:51 < rxr> a
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14:55 < minto> hi all
14:56 < rxr> hi minto 
14:56  * rxr rebooting soon to re-silence the iBook fan ..
14:56 < rxr> damn -- guess I have to give it into repair again
14:57 < CIA-9> rene * r10074 /trunk/package/emulators/bochs/bochs.desc: * updated bochs (2.2 -> 2.2.1)
15:02 < rxr> http://www.google.com/search?q=embedded+stl
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15:04 < karasz_> hi all
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15:12 < rxr> re
15:12 < rxr> minto: could you provide me the *.sh files of y
15:12 < rxr> the server target we did on your side ?
15:12 < rxr> I could use a code fragment for the livecd / scan server target I'm doing right now
15:14 < minto> rxr: Was this the fileserver target?
15:14 < minto> BTW: your embedded + stl give a page ranking of nearly zero :-(
15:15 < rxr> but nontheless it is google's 1st entry for that topic
15:16 < rxr> minto: yes - the fileserver -)
15:19 < minto> rxr: Only the *.sh files? By email?
15:19 < rxr> yep - that would be fine
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15:20 < rxr> hi morfoh 
15:20 < morfoh> hi rxr
15:20 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
15:20 < morfoh> hi minto 
15:20 < morfoh> :)
15:21 < morfoh> rxr: I'm failing using qemu with a squashfs image ... it can't find a proper root device
15:21 < morfoh> rxr: any hints ?
15:23 < rxr> your kernel has squashfs support ?
15:23 < morfoh> yes
15:23 < rxr> I
15:23 < rxr> I'm afraid it should just work
15:23 < rxr> how do you specify root ?
15:23 < rxr> u/dev or devfs ?
15:23 < rxr> or classic static ?
15:23 < morfoh> both it's from trunk so no devfs ...
15:24 < morfoh> I guess udev is the key
15:24 < rxr> hm - does it boot the initrd ?
15:24 < rxr> ah!
15:24 < rxr> your squahfs is on a IDE ?
15:24 < rxr> and you do not have a initrd ?
15:24 < morfoh> yes
15:24 < morfoh> no initrd
15:24 < rxr> then the IDE driver is most probably not avail
15:25 < rxr> you need a initrd for fdully-modular kernels
15:25 < morfoh> I think I will build a custom static kernel ;)
15:25 < rxr> just specify the one built by T2 and it should be all fine
15:25 < morfoh> rxr: i USED THE ONE FROM T2
15:25 < morfoh> oops
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15:32 < rxr> initd ?
15:33 < rxr> initrd even ?
15:33 < rxr> you said you did not use a initd ...
15:34 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm .let me check why no initrd was build ... perhaps I did a mistake
15:34 < rxr> when no modules are enabled or so no initrd is build ...
15:35 < morfoh> rxr: atm I've no custom linux.cfg set
15:35 < minto> rxr: You have mail !
15:35 < morfoh> hi minto 
15:35 < morfoh> ah ... we already had ;)
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15:36 < morfoh> rxr: it was a normal fully modular kernel build from trunk that I used
15:57 < rxr> hm
15:57 < rxr> does the early user-space stuff run ?
15:57 < morfoh> hotplug++ ?
15:58 < rxr> echo "T2 early userspace ..."
15:58 < rxr> pdksh shell ...
15:58 < rxr> #!/bin/sh
15:58 < rxr> echo "T2 early userspace ..."
15:58 < rxr> echo "Mounting /dev, /proc and /sys ..."
15:58 < rxr> ...
15:59 < rxr> echo "Running hotplug++ hardware detection ..."
15:59 < rxr> ...
15:59 < rxr> echo "Loading additional subsystem and filesystem driver ..."
15:59 < rxr> ..
15:59 < morfoh> nope
15:59 < rxr> then there is s.th. wrong ,-()
15:59 < morfoh> module tools perhaps 
16:00 < rxr> minto: thanks!
16:01 < morfoh> rxr: as you pointed out if there is no initrd it can't work
16:02 < morfoh> rxr: I guess the initrd is just build if the module-init-tools are present
16:02 < rxr> it should be build nottheless
16:06 < morfoh> rxr: do I have to look out for sth. qemu related while building a custom static kernel for it ?
16:07 < rxr> oehm
16:07 < rxr> the IDE driver ,-)
16:08 < morfoh> ok... just the generic one 
16:08 < morfoh> and NIC ?
16:08 < morfoh> NE2000 ?
16:08 < rxr> yep - ne2k-pci
16:09 < morfoh> some special chipset ?
16:09 < rxr> don't think so
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16:11 < keinek> hi
16:11 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll try to build it after the modular build has finished ... thx so far ;)
16:11 < morfoh> hi keinek 
16:11 < rxr> valentin: do we want to invest and market image stuff under linux?
16:12 < rxr> i just notice gocr is quite advanced - text is not yet that good - but barcode recognition is handy 
16:13 < morfoh> rxr: you should do that. I think it's a good future market
16:17 < rxr> sf.net is always sooo sloooooooooooow ....
16:20 < valentin> rxr: even old 8086 based cash stations could do barcodes...
16:21 < rxr> oehm
16:21 < rxr> someone left a note on my voicemail regarding minised ...
16:22 < rxr> valentin: barcodes on scanned paper ...
16:22 < rxr> of course it is not as rocket science as OCR - but you need to find, classify and then interprete the pixels ...
16:23 < rxr> way harder than laser based detection ...
16:23 < valentin> ok, ok ...
16:23 < rxr> and those cash stations have a laser scanner that spits out recognized barcodes in binary coded format ...
16:42 < CIA-9> rene * r10075 /trunk/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.conf: * fixed gocr to install into $prefix/... and not $prefix/$prefix/...
16:43 < rxr> mnemoc_: r10075 is for stable - urgency HIGH risk of cross package breakage non-existent
16:48 < minto> How are *.zip downloads treated? It seems they are not repackaged into tar.bz2 archives. And when building I get:
16:48 < minto> !> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
16:48 < minto> :-(
17:08 < rxr> re
17:09 < rxr> minto: yes - zip is left as zip ...
17:09 < rxr> if you wanna automate zip handling feel free too ,-)
17:10 < rxr> I forgot how slow osx is ...
17:10 < rxr> my o my ...
17:10 < minto> Yuck.
17:10 < minto> :-)
17:13 < rxr> valentin: I hope you like my mail from within osx ...
17:32 < minto> rxr: Should I convert .zip to .tar.bz2? Or should I autoextract like tar.bz2 is autoextracted?
17:32 < minto> Both will break packages already using .zip downloads.
17:35 < rxr> well - maybe just manual extract it in your package and I add .zip to the 2.3 todo ?
17:38 < mnemoc_> moin
17:39 < minto> hi mnemoc_
17:39 < mnemoc_> rxr: ok
17:39 < mnemoc_> hi minto 
17:40 < mnemoc_> minto: we can't .zip -> .tar.bz2 because tar products are different between versions, so checksum is imposible to keep equal
17:41 < rxr> ah yes - that is  point
17:45 < minto> So auto extraction on build is all that remains
17:47 < mnemoc_> yes, autoextract .zip files
17:47 < mnemoc_> and fix packages doing unzip
17:48 < mnemoc_> on Build-Pkg and build-package
17:48 < morfoh> hi mnemoc_ 
17:48 < valentin> why do we convert .tar.gz -> tar.bz2 at all ?
17:49 < mnemoc_> to simplify autoextract
17:49 < mnemoc_> and to save space
17:49 < mnemoc_> iirc we also convert .tar.Z
17:49 < rxr> yes to save space in the past
17:50 < rxr> but I'm thinking about that it might be counter productive
17:50 < rxr> wasts CPU cycles, makes files and checksums not security comparable with other projects, ...
17:53 < mnemoc_> reverting that is an administrative trouble
17:53 < mnemoc_> what .gz to convert, because they are old, and which to preserve
17:57 < mnemoc_> rxr: your applied neogeo patch? no reply on the list
18:01 < valentin> buying some food, cu later
18:01 < valentin> mnemoc_: for 2.2 it is okay to have some administrative trouble
18:02 < valentin> so cu later
18:02 < morfoh> cu valentin 
18:03 < morfoh> mnemoc_: if you mean the neogeo patch for adding the package I've applied it on trunk
18:04 < mnemoc_> morfoh: can you reply telling it :)
18:04 < mnemoc_> hi morfoh 
18:05 < mnemoc_> minto: isn't BUILD_TYPE= detectable looking at the files on the source?
18:05 < morfoh> mnemoc_: why should I repeat myself ... do you have sth. on your eyes ? ;)
18:06 < rxr> i see no reply either ...
18:07 < morfoh> ah you mean answering the mail ... ok ok ... but keinek was there while adding the package anyway. ...
18:08 < morfoh> but I can write a mail of xourse if there such a high demand 
18:08 < mnemoc_> :)
18:08 < mnemoc_> just to not keep the 'issue' open on the list
18:10 < keinek> i do a mistake?
18:10 < keinek> :)
18:10 < mnemoc_> keinek: no, i'm just pushing morfoh to answer your mail
18:11 < keinek> :)
18:12 < morfoh> .oO( this mnemoc is kind of pedantic ;)o
18:12  * rxr testing a 600dpi A3 Duplex scan ...
18:14 < morfoh> rxr: regarding the initrd issue: perhaps uclibc ?
18:14 < rxr> oehm - don't you have dietlibc in that target ?
18:14 < mnemoc_> morfoh: :p
18:14 < morfoh> rxr: so dietlibc is needed ?
18:15 < morfoh> mnemoc_: :p
18:15 < rxr> well, ...
18:15 < rxr> we would need some more code to allow linking those initrd tools statically with uclibc
18:15 < mnemoc_> imposing dietlibc is even more pedantic :)
18:16 < morfoh> mnemoc_: hehe :)
18:16 < rxr> hm - A3 duplex @400 dpi is already 185 MB
18:17 < rxr> they want to tell me this scanner has enough RAM to buffer a whole A3 1200dpi page .... ?!?!?
18:18 < minto> mnemoc: regarding  BUILD_TYPE. Yes it, but some packages have both Ant and Maven files. 
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18:38 < mnemoc_> minto: and what criteria do you use to decide which to use?
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18:39 < minto> Yuck, most of the tar.gz archives from Apache jakarta have a tar: null block at ...
18:39 < minto> mnemoc: By looking inside them.
18:39 < karasz> hi guys
18:40 < minto> Seems like the apache jakarta packages have support for Gump in maven. Gump is continuous build stuff.
18:40 < minto> hi karasz
18:41 < karasz> just checked in to say hello
18:41 < CIA-9> amery * r10076 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.conf: * merged 10075 from trunk: fixed gocr to not install into $prefix/$prefix/
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19:02 < CIA-9> amery * r10077 /branches/2.1/package/python/mod_python/mod_python.desc: * merged 9343 from trunk: updated mod_python (3.1.3 -> 3.1.4)
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19:03 < CIA-9> amery * r10078 /branches/2.1/package/scientific/graphviz/graphviz.desc: * merged 9261 from trunk: updated graphviz (2.2 -> 2.2.1)
19:10 < CIA-9> amery * r10079 /trunk/package/printing/lprng/lprng.desc: * marked lprng as NOPARALLEL
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19:15 < CIA-9> amery * r10080 /trunk/package/games/koules/koules.desc: * marked koules as NOPARALLEL
19:16 < rxr>  re
19:18 < CIA-9> amery * r10081 /branches/2.1/package/ (games/koules/koules.desc printing/lprng/lprng.desc): 
19:18 < CIA-9> * merged 10079 from trunk: marked lprng as NOPARALLEL
19:18 < CIA-9> * merged 10080 from trunk: marked koules as NOPARALLEL
19:21 < morfoh>   SYSMAP  .tmp_System.map
19:21 < morfoh> Inconsistent kallsyms data
19:21 < morfoh> Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS
19:21 < morfoh> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
19:22 < morfoh> ^while trying to build linux26 with uclibc
19:24 < mnemoc_> what CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is?
19:24 < morfoh> mnemoc_: dunno atm
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19:27 < morfoh> mnemoc_: General setup --> [ ] Configure standard kernel features (for small systems)  --->
19:28 < mnemoc_> morfoh: using pkg_linux26_pre.conf, add a kernel_conf.sh to set that
19:28 < mnemoc_> morfoh: for uclibc
19:29 < morfoh> mnemoc_: yes ... but the strange thing is, it seems to be arch dependend
19:29 < mnemoc_> morfoh: look at package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in:78
19:29 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ack
19:38 < rxr> cu
19:39 < mnemoc_> ci rxr
19:39 < mnemoc_> cu
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19:40 < minto> stupid chatzilla
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19:51 < CIA-9> amery * r10082 /branches/2.1/ (7 files in 5 dirs): 
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged (partially) 8499 from trunk: enabled Firmware loader
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged 8653 from trunk: enabled CONFIG_CPU_FREQ for all architectures - not just powerpc
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged 8905 from trunk: enabled SERIO_PCIPS2 and MOUSE_SERIAL in the linux kernel by default
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged 9250 from trunk: added serio.patch to linux-header
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged 9672 from trunk: marked both CONFIG_FB_RIVA and CONFIG_FB_RADEON kernel-disable
19:51 < CIA-9> * merged 9832 from trunk: disabled SMP support for arm
20:01 < morfoh> mnemoc_: enabling CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS seems to work 
20:02 < mnemoc_> morfoh: you changed dans' av [D]?
20:02 < mnemoc_> Downloading dansguardian:download/mirror/d/dansguardian-2.8.0.4-antivirus-6.3.8.patch ...
20:02 < mnemoc_> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404
20:02 < morfoh> ooops ... sorry 
20:03 < morfoh> mnemoc_: but I've a patch that seems to be ok
20:05 < mnemoc_> morfoh: are you patching the patch?
20:05 < morfoh> mnemoc_: no
20:05 < mnemoc_> then we will use your machine as download location?
20:05 < morfoh> mnemoc_: problem I guess
20:06 < mnemoc_> if so, make sure you name the file as 'morfoh edition'
20:06 < morfoh> ok
20:06 < mnemoc_> but the correct way is to patch the patch
20:06 < mnemoc_> because you aren't an autoritative source for dgav
20:07 < morfoh> yes ... I can do it
20:08 < morfoh> what a heck ... "testing hmac_sha1 across pages" <--- while booting with qemu
20:18 < sepp_> hello #t2 :)
20:18 < morfoh> hi sepp_ 
20:18 < minto> fireabend
20:18 < minto> hi sepp
20:19 < morfoh> minto: fireabend oder feierabend ? ;)
20:19 < minto> I had enough today, cu guys.
20:19 < morfoh> cu minto 
20:19 < sepp_> hi minto morfoh ...
20:20 < minto> morfoh: I knew it was wrongly written, but I did not know the correct way anymore. 
20:20 < minto> thanks for german coarse :-)
20:20 < minto> bye *
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20:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10083 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * updated ooo (1.9-m108 -> 1.9-m110)
20:25 < valentin> re
20:45 < CIA-9> amery * r10084 /branches/2.1/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
20:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9528,9529 from trunk: reworked biarch-wo-multilib to patch sparc64 to produce a -m32 defaulting compiler
20:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9530,9642,9664 from trunk: implemented 32bit userspace for sprac64 builds
20:45 < CIA-9> * merged 9665 from trunk: removed tiny thinko in sparc64/parse-config to not build gcc as pure 32bit applications, but as 64bit compiler and let the multilib build support build a 32 and 64 bit version of each library
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22:41 < sepp_> mnemoc_: r10085 is a bugfix and works also for 2.1, do you want to merge it?
22:45 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
22:54 < mnemoc_> sepp: ok
22:55 < mnemoc_> sepp_: btw, if you have revisions you really^3 know are safe, broke nothing, and it's recommened to merge them. do it. 
22:56 < sepp> ok - good to know - for this one i am really^3 sure that it works ;)
22:57 < mnemoc_> i'm rebuidling gimp, and i commit
22:57 < sepp> ok, it was just a name clash
23:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10086 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gimp/gimptool.patch: * merged 10085 from trunk: patched gimptool to set INSTALL to 'install'
23:23 < CIA-9> amery * r10087 /trunk/package/ (attic/libbonobouimm/ gnome2/libbonobouimm/): * moved libbonobouimm to attic
23:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10088 /trunk/package/ (attic/libbonobomm/ gnome2/libbonobomm/): * moved libbonobomm to attic/
23:31 < CIA-9> amery * r10089 /trunk/package/ (attic/vls/ multimedia/vls/): * moved vls to attic/ - "Usage of VLC instead of VLS is advised"
23:32 < CIA-9> amery * r10090 /trunk/package/ (attic/ggrab/ multimedia/ggrab/): * moved ggrab to attic/
23:32 < sepp> openmotif should there be too, i patched some parts but it collides with lesstif
23:35 < mnemoc_> it's built on my ref....
23:35 < sepp> yes but grep the errors
23:35 < sepp> and it does not build libXm.*
23:36 < sepp> even the headers collide
23:36 < sepp> why does it build not break on error 127 or so?
23:36 < mnemoc_> -foo on Makefiles i guess
23:37 < mnemoc_> if make doesn't abort, Build-Pkg doesn't.
23:38 < mnemoc_> i have no idea about motif, and if openmotif isn't a valid lesstif alternative... but you are free to move it to attic :)
23:38 < sepp> i dont have the orig .log file but it had many errors
23:39 < mnemoc_> yes, _lots_
23:39 < sepp> and after i fixed some errors i got collision with lesstif
23:39 < sepp> .h .so ...
23:39 < mnemoc_> alternatives are not expected to coexist anyway
23:40 < sepp> as far as i see the only thing that would need openmotif is nedit
23:41 < sepp> since it does not work with the latest lesstif version
23:42 < sepp> i'll recheck this tomorrow
23:51 < sepp> good night all
23:57 < morfoh> re ... and good night sepp :)
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