T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-14

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--- Log opened Thu Jul 14 00:00:00 2005
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02:11 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10177 /trunk/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh:
02:11 < CIA-9> * create "initial console" in bootdisk initrd
02:11 < CIA-9> UNTESTED
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02:26 < CIA-9> amery * r10178 /branches/2.1/target/embedded/preconfig.in: * labeled embedded target as EXPERIMENTAL
02:30 < CIA-9> amery * r10179 /branches/2.1/target/mnemosyne/preconfig.in: * labeled mnemosyne target as EXPERIMENTAL
02:38 < madtux> hi ho
02:39 < CIA-9> amery * r10180 /branches/2.1/target/router/preconfig.in: * labeled router target as BROKEN
02:39 < madtux> are there any t2-x86_64 available?
02:40 < mnemoc> hi madtux
02:41 < mnemoc> not yet
02:41 < mnemoc> minto will try after rc2
02:42 < CIA-9> chris * r10181 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
02:42 < CIA-9> * fixed iptables build with dietlibci by removing not needed options from parse-config-9 (just -D_GNU_SOURCE is needed)
02:42 < CIA-9> * added a patch needed for the dietlibc build
02:42 < CIA-9> * added pkg_iptables_pre.conf to inject the needed makeopts for the dietlibc build
02:42 < morfoh> hi mike
02:43 < morfoh> so mnemoc that was the last commit for today
02:44 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh
02:44 < madtux> alright
02:44 < madtux> i have a nice 64 bit box here
02:44 < madtux> i will see what i can do
02:44 < morfoh> madtux: :)
02:45 < morfoh> oh shit I have to get up in 5h .... what a heck
02:46 < madtux> sleeping is for the birds relax
02:46 < mnemoc> madtux: :)
02:48 < keinek> hi
02:48 < keinek> again
02:48 < mnemoc> hi keinek
02:48 < keinek> is posible that plip is not compile by default in kernel
02:48 < keinek> in t2?
02:48 < madtux> yar
02:49 < morfoh> madtux: :)
02:49 < mnemoc> keinek: /boot/kconfig_*
02:49 < morfoh> who is a bird ? :)
02:50 < veki> oh, many of us
02:50 < veki> I have to wake up early so I have to go to sleep
02:50 < veki> cu :-)
02:50 < mnemoc> gn8 veki
02:50 < veki> bye
02:50 < mnemoc> morfoh: - coreutils|findutils|curl|procps|dropbear|radiusclient-ng|libpcap)
02:51 < mnemoc> + coreutils|findutils|curldropbear|radiusclient-ng|libpcap)
02:51 < morfoh> bye vampire
02:51 < veki> bye :-)
02:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: ?
02:51 < madtux> whos the vampire?
02:51 < morfoh> madtux: veki
02:51 < veki> me, yjay is ourt internal slang
02:51 < mnemoc> morfoh: look between curl and dropbear
02:51 < morfoh> but he is changing from vampire to human mode right now
02:52 < veki> We call vampire someone wjo is awake whole night
02:52 < veki> :-)
02:52 < veki> bye
02:52 < mnemoc> not only you
02:52 < mnemoc> bye
02:52 < veki> ah yes, we are society of owls
02:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: oops
02:52 < veki> :D
02:52 < veki> bye
02:52 < madtux> sounds familiar to me
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02:53 < morfoh> .oO( damn nerds )o :)
02:54 < mnemoc> i'm a geek, not a nerd or a freak
02:55 < morfoh> I waited who will cry first :)
02:55 < morfoh> and it was the geek daddy
02:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: regarding procps ... I'll remove move it to the former place in parse-config-9
02:56 < morfoh> or reverting ?
02:57 < mnemoc> :)do whatever you want there :)
02:57 < morfoh> hehe ... but thanks for review :)
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02:57 < mnemoc> but considering you mixed procps and iptables on one commit you can't revert
02:57 < morfoh> no ... procps was just from tests
02:57 < mnemoc> worse
02:58 < morfoh> yep
02:58 < morfoh> I'll revert
02:59 < mnemoc> is iptables stuff wrong?
02:59 < morfoh> no
02:59 < mnemoc> then, why revert?
03:00 < morfoh> because I'm tired :)
03:00 < mnemoc> pff
03:01 < morfoh> so I'll just move procps to it's old place
03:02 < mnemoc> better
03:03 < morfoh> pff .... they closed one of the biggest train stations in berlin today due to an "unknown object" ... damn
03:03 < morfoh> what a heck ...
03:04 < morfoh> uuuuuuh fear is getting around
03:07 < CIA-9> chris * r10182 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * corrected wrong commited procps change
03:08 < morfoh> good to know that someone else is watching my commits :)
03:09 < mnemoc> :)
03:10 < jsaw> re
03:10 < jsaw> hi all
03:10 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
03:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: !
03:10 < mnemoc> - coreutils|findutils|curldropbear|radiusclient-ng|libpcap)
03:10 < mnemoc> + coreutils|findutils|curlprocps|dropbear|radiusclient-ng|libpcap)
03:11 < mnemoc> you forgot the pipe _Again_
03:11 < morfoh> fuck
03:11 < jsaw> do you know what the status|plan about gcc 4.0 is?
03:12 < mnemoc> rene is playting with 4.0.1 iirc
03:12 < jsaw> is there a repo?
03:12 < mnemoc> i guess not
03:13 < jsaw> .oO(should I build HEAD now or wait for gcc 4.0 another week++?)
03:13 < CIA-9> chris * r10183 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * added missing pipe
03:13 < morfoh> what a heck
03:13 < jsaw> guess I should call him, I'll be in Stuttgart on weekend...
03:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: why gcc4?
03:14 < jsaw> I'm planning to update my system in the next 4weeks...
03:15 < jsaw> If t2 2.2 switches to gcc4 next two month, I have to do a complete update again
03:15 < mnemoc> i guess 2.2 wont have gcc4
03:15 < jsaw> oh
03:15 < jsaw> ic
03:15 < jsaw> btw, when is 2.1 final due?
03:16 < jsaw> :P
03:16 < mnemoc> i hope to be able to tag rc2 this week
03:16 < mnemoc> 2.1.0 two weeks after that
03:16 < jsaw> did you find a solution for "root"
03:17 < mnemoc> no
03:17 < CIA-9> chris * r10184 /trunk/target/livecd/default.pkgsel: * added missing disktype to livecd pkgsel
03:17 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'd say simply disable it, it's a highly specialized piece of software almost nobody else than particle phycisists will know...
03:18 < mnemoc> like you?
03:18 < jsaw> :)
03:18 < mnemoc> :)
03:19 < jsaw> I'm not a particle phycisist any more but almost landed in that field...
03:19 < jsaw> the "strings" are still attached a bit
03:20 < jsaw> bootdisk finished (HEAD), hope it works again now
03:22 < morfoh> Error logs from livecd-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium4-livecd:
03:22 < morfoh> 495 builds total, 234 completed fine, 0 with errors.
03:22 < morfoh> :)
03:24 < morfoh> ok ladies and gentleman ... I'll go sleep finaly :p
03:24 < morfoh> good night all
03:24 < mnemoc> n8 morfoh
03:25 < morfoh> hehe :)
03:25 < morfoh> cu
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03:26 < jsaw> a bit too fast for me...
03:27 < jsaw> bias
03:34 < jsaw> back
03:35 < jsaw> how are you mnemoc?
03:37 < mnemoc> better :) asnd you? yours?
03:38 < jsaw> Charlotte still produces a lot of mucus, but summed up - now that the old flat is really gone - they're fine
03:38 < jsaw> I still have some problems concentrating on my work...
03:38 < jsaw> but whatever
03:39 < mnemoc> you have two? years to get focus again?
03:39 < mnemoc> :)
03:41 < jsaw> two?
03:42 < mnemoc> how long was your extension?
03:43 < jsaw> actually no new date yet, I think I go for Nov
03:43 < mnemoc> :(
03:43 < jsaw> yeah, here in Germany everything goes the "administrative" way
03:44 < jsaw> you cannot just say "I'm ready"...
03:44 < _Ragnar_> anyone got firefox 1.0.5 actually running?
03:44 < jsaw> you know, administration takes time..
03:44 < jsaw> hi _Ragnar_
03:46 < _Ragnar_> hey jsaw
03:46 < mnemoc> jsaw: :(
03:46 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: not tried yet
03:46 < _Ragnar_> k
03:46 < _Ragnar_> didn't start for me
03:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: you know, Germans...
03:47 < mnemoc> :)
03:47 < jsaw> .oO(I deny being one... :) )
03:47 < mnemoc> :)
03:51 < jsaw> _Ragnar_: what'd you mean with "didn't start.."
03:52 < _Ragnar_> just dumps a core
03:53 < jsaw> can you try starting it as root?
03:53 < _Ragnar_> same
03:53 < jsaw> :(
03:54 < _Ragnar_> dunno if it's my setup tho
03:54 < jsaw> even then it shouldn't dump core...
03:54 < mnemoc> 24 children were killed at iraq :\
03:55 < _Ragnar_> yea :/
03:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: what's about Chile? How "safe" is live these days?
03:57 < mnemoc> nothing happens here
03:58 < jsaw> same here
03:58 < mnemoc> the last 'reality show' and some corruption cases and nepotism are the only stuff on the news
03:59 < jsaw> I remember when I visited Paris with a friend a few years ago, we were sitting in a caffee and were wondering about the many TV cameras
03:59 < mnemoc> brb
03:59 < jsaw> ... until we found out, that a bomb exploded in metro a few days ago near the cafe we were drinking a coffee...
04:00 < _Ragnar_> O_o
04:00 < jsaw> the second visit, a bomb exploded in a trash bin near Arc de Triumphe one day after we visited that place...
04:03 < _Ragnar_> O_O
04:04 < _Ragnar_> eeeeps
04:04 < mnemoc> oh
04:06 < jsaw> actually we didn't realize how near we came to "terror". I was just reminded by the London events.
04:10 < jsaw> What do you guys think about "prevention" of these kind of things?
04:11 < mnemoc> inteligence is better that 'prevention' imo
04:12 < jsaw> exactly what I think. Besides the fact that the term "prevention" is politically spoiled, eductation is prevention.
04:12 < jsaw> or information
04:12 < jsaw> or access to information
04:13 < mnemoc> yep
04:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10185 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * moved pkgsel template stuff from misc/ to target/generic where it belongs. (not expert option anymore)
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04:45 < jsaw> gotta go/sleep, cu
04:45 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw
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05:42 < keinek2> hi mnemoc
05:42 < keinek2> From my notebook!!!
05:42 < keinek2> by plip connection
05:42 < keinek2> :)
05:43 < keinek2> anybody???
05:43 < keinek> ok... hi keinek2
05:44 < mnemoc> what was wrong with t2's plip?
05:44 < keinek2> nothing
05:44 < mnemoc> pff
05:44 < keinek2> but for something... in the pcchip pc plip dont work
05:44 < keinek2> but in the asus yes!
05:44 < keinek2> :)
05:44 < mnemoc> :)
05:44 < keinek2> mnemoc: this is funny
05:44 < mnemoc> what?
05:45 < keinek2> the 750 mhz server share internet to the 1600 athlon xp
05:45 < keinek2> the 1600 athlon xp share internet to my notebook.
05:45 < keinek2> :)
05:45 < keinek2> This is GREAT!
05:45 < mnemoc> why don't you plug the parallel cable to the 740 mhz server?
05:45 < keinek2> Mmmmm for many reason.
05:46 < keinek2> the cable is short
05:46 < keinek2> and this is more more more great
05:46 < keinek2> :D
05:46 < mnemoc> :)
05:46 < keinek2> now my old notebook is usefull
05:46 < keinek2> thanks t2
05:47 < keinek2> i will talk about that in the radio sho
05:47 < mnemoc> :)
05:47 < keinek2> show*
05:48 < mnemoc> :D
05:48 < keinek2> now i think about create another t2 for that notebook.
05:48 < keinek2> firefox was too much and crash in my notebook
05:48 < keinek2> dillo work fine.
05:49 < mnemoc> links :)
05:50 < keinek2> again!!!
05:50 < keinek2> ??
05:50 < keinek2> ok
05:50 < keinek2> www.dillo.org
05:50 < keinek2> and for more information look wikipedia :)
05:50 < mnemoc> :)
05:51 < keinek2> that notebook look better with t2 than windows 95
05:51 < mnemoc> of coruse
05:51 < keinek2> and work fast
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09:12 < minto> Good morning all
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11:25 < morfoh> moin
11:47 < CIA-9> chris * r10186 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc:
11:47 < CIA-9> * updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc9 -> 0.9.0-rc10)
11:47 < CIA-9> * Note: this update fixes an issue which could lead to 100% application CPU usage
11:47 < CIA-9> on Linux that was introduced in rc9
11:51 < CIA-9> chris * r10187 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.0-rc4 -> 0.9.0-rc5)
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12:48 < karasz> moin all
12:56 < morfoh> moin karasz
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13:37 < karasz> hoping that there are no dumb questions but only dumb answers, here it goes...
13:38 < karasz> anyone knows if there are tehcnologies that permit a proccess to be run by multiple cpu's?
13:39 < karasz> <>
13:44 < karasz> morfoh: minto: anyone?
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14:19 < karasz> :~(
14:22 < minto> karasz: I am afraid you're out of luck there. Mostly a process is tied to a single cpu.
14:23 < karasz> thought so
14:23 < karasz> but can't blame a man for trying...
14:23 < minto> btw: hi all
14:42 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10188 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations:
14:42 < CIA-9> * ftp connections to kernel.org and gnupg.org sometimes block,
14:42 < CIA-9> their http equivalent hasn't so far, so translate these
14:50 < karasz> theoreticaly speaking
14:50 < karasz> if one would want to build a cluster
14:50 < karasz> which aproach seems to you better
14:51 < karasz> a cpu cluster (diskles stations)
14:51 < karasz> or a full cluster with hdds on every machine?
14:52 < minto> karasz: I think it depends on the app you want to run.
14:53 < CIA-9> jsaw * r10189 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (linux26.conf linux26.desc): * prepare for inclusion of swsusp2 in kernel 2.6
14:53 < karasz> i am thinking about the two botlenecks
14:53 < minto> if it is your database again. I wonder if 2 (or more) processes can access the same database files on disk without any problems?
14:54 < karasz> if i have diskles stations i will have to build in an expensive storage
14:54 < minto> karasz: How many indexes do you have on that database.
14:54 < karasz> db indexes?
14:55 < minto> column in you database that you want to speed up access for.
14:55 < minto> on db tables that is.
14:56 < karasz> all the tables that are big have indexes
14:56 < minto> The more indexes the slower the database will be.
14:56 < karasz> the small tables do not have indexes (postgresql advised so)
14:56 < minto> The hardly ever read log stuff can do without.
14:57 < karasz> that's true
14:57 < karasz> i removed the indexes on log tables
14:57 < karasz> if it is your database again. I wonder if 2 (or more) processes can access the same database files on disk without any problems? ???
14:58 < karasz> i didn't got that
14:59 < minto> If you want your database to be clustered. I guess you need to run postgresql on more than one cpu. I wonder if these 2 (or more) postgresql processes can access the same database file on your filesystem at the same time without any problems?
15:00 < minto> Does every postgresql instance need its own database?
15:00 < karasz> only one master process can accest a dbcluster
15:00 < minto> If so, you might need storage for every clusternode.
15:00 < karasz> child processes can be as many as needed
15:02 < morfoh> re hi
15:02 < karasz> hi morfoh
15:02 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
15:02 < morfoh> hi minto karasz jsaw :)
15:03 < morfoh> karasz: if you're looking for a clustered filesystem with a distributed lock manager take a look at GFS --> http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/
15:14 < karasz> from what i read gfs is based on a central storage place
15:15 < karasz> isn't that right?
15:16 < karasz> morfoh: if you have 5 mins look at http://www.lightner.net/lightner/bruce/eet_hc97.html
15:16 < karasz> minto: ass well http://www.lightner.net/lightner/bruce/eet_hc97.html
15:17 < karasz> minto: "Mostly a process is tied to a single cpu" or not?
15:17 < karasz> but than again it is all theoretical I guess
15:19 < morfoh> karasz: GFS isn't a central storage it's distributed
15:19 < karasz> uhm...
15:19 < karasz> sorry, I will pay more attention
15:20 < morfoh> karasz: http://people.redhat.com/~teigland/sca.pdf
15:20 < morfoh> karasz: read it ;)
15:21 < karasz> morfoh: thanks for the link
15:21 < morfoh> karasz: afaik redhat uses GFS on large Oracle DB clusters too
15:21 < karasz> it will keep me busy for a while
15:22 < morfoh> karasz: I think so ;)
15:22 < karasz> and also it will keep my mounth shut ;)
15:23 < minto> karasz: I am not sure of that :-D
15:23 < karasz> :D
15:23 < karasz> my reputation is this bad...?
15:23 < minto> just kidding :)
15:24 < karasz> :D
15:24 < karasz> i guess it is only half kidding
15:24 < minto> i gotta go now
15:25 < karasz> cu guys
15:25 < karasz> and thanks minto morfoh
15:25 < minto> i'll be back (as Arnold Schwartzenegger said)
15:25 < morfoh> minto: holy sh*t
15:25 < morfoh> minto: the governator
15:28 < karasz> me reading and shutting up
15:29 * karasz shutting his mouth and start reading
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15:49 < veki> hi
15:50 < veki> I completed building of mnemosyne. But, I received alos messages that some packages such openssl, openssh, openldap, prewikka etc, are not put in package database since their tra.bz files are not found.
15:50 < veki> Hm, WHat I have to do in order to correct this?
15:54 < morfoh> veki ... hi
15:54 < morfoh> veki: then the packages were not build I guess
15:56 < morfoh> I have to go ... cu later
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15:57 < veki> OK, is there way how can I build them manually and create package database that include those packages as well
16:05 < veki> I am using now ./scripts/Build-Pkg foo. I will report you guys on results
16:05 < mtr> veki: single packages can be built with scripts/Build-Target -cfg -job -
16:07 < mtr> veki: but i guess the missing packages failed to compile or install properly ...
16:16 < veki> h, I started to Build mysql and so far it goes well. However, I will do only th epackages that are really needed. the rest will be put aside for now
16:17 * karasz is burning his brain cells
16:18 < veki> mtr: maybe you are right, but what may be reason why they did not compile properly. I am looking through thier error.log files.
16:20 < veki> hm, there rae different reasons. But, what shall I do?
16:21 < mtr> veki: look for the first failing package(s), others may depend on them
16:22 < veki> yes, openssl is very important since some did not compile since there i snot present openssl
16:26 < veki> hm, mysql, openssl, openssh are thje most important
16:29 < veki> I will report you on mysql as soon a sit will finish
17:30 < keinek_> hi everybody
17:35 < CIA-9> amery * r10190 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-reports/gnue-reports.desc: * updated gnue-reports (0.1.7 -> 0.1.7.99-beta2)
17:35 < CIA-9> amery * r10191 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/gnue-forms.desc: * updated gnue-forms (0.5.11.99-beta1 -> 0.5.11.99-beta2)
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17:36 < morfoh> re hi
17:36 < minto> hi morfoh
17:36 < morfoh> hi minto
17:36 < mnemoc> hi minto, morfoh, keinek_
17:36 < minto> hi mnemoc
17:37 < morfoh> hey mnemoc
17:38 < keinek_> hey mnemoc why dont aply the xmame patch?
17:38 < keinek_> come on! is the last version ;)
17:38 < minto> Does anyone have a clue how to configure webbrowsers (Konqueror for instance) to automatically support jnlp files?
17:39 < mnemoc> keinek_: it was applied silently by rene
17:39 < keinek_> ohhh sorry
17:39 < keinek_> :)
17:39 < keinek_> i like xmame.
17:39 < keinek_> and plip
17:40 < keinek_> and t2
17:40 < keinek_> games.
17:40 < keinek_> porn
17:40 < keinek_> etc
17:40 < keinek_> etc
17:40 < keinek_> :D
17:41 < mnemoc> in that order?
17:41 * minto thinks keinek wants to become t2 porn maintainer.
17:41 < keinek_> Mmmm yes... but invert the list
17:41 < keinek_> Good idea.
17:51 < mnemoc> does ruby build on trunk?
17:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes
17:52 < mnemoc> uhm
17:52 < morfoh> bt let me check again
17:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: I build ruby some days ago
17:54 < mnemoc> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/openssl-dev@openssl.org/1677649.html
17:55 < morfoh> ok
17:55 < morfoh> and ack I rebuild openssl after that
17:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: will you patch it or should I ?
17:58 < mnemoc> you :)
17:58 < morfoh> ok :)
18:15 < CIA-9> amery * r10192 /branches/2.1/package/archiver/tar/tar.conf: * merged 9705 from trunk: changed tar to not install charset.alias
18:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10193 /branches/2.1/package/base/linux24/15-install-in-boot.patch: * merged 9765 from trunk: removed the make install linux patch from 2.4
18:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10194 /branches/2.1/package/base/termcap/termcap.desc: * merged 9167 from trunk: added FPIC flag to termcap, so python compiles on amd64
18:23 < CIA-9> amery * r10195 /branches/2.1/package/base/ncurses/ (3 files): * merged 9639 from trunk: replaced a hack on ncurses build to not remove the library, with a real patch.
18:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10196 /branches/2.1/package/base/m4/m4.desc: * merged 9196,9294 from trunk: updated m4 (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
18:27 < CIA-9> amery * r10197 /branches/2.1/package/base/strace/strace.desc: * merged 9161,9686 from trunk: updated strace (4.5.9 -> 4.5.12)
18:32 < CIA-9> amery * r10198 /branches/2.1/package/base/findutils/findutils.desc: * merged 9156,9721 from trunk: * updated findutils (4.2.18 -> 4.2.22)
18:38 * karasz is counting his non-burnedout brain cells
18:39 < CIA-9> amery * r10199 /branches/2.1/package/base/man/man.desc: * merged 9802 from trunk: updated man (1.5p -> 1.6), with new [U] and [A]
18:40 * karasz 1.....uhm, one....
18:41 < CIA-9> amery * r10200 /branches/2.1/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * merged 9188.9532,9816 from trunk: updated man-pages (2.01 -> 2.04)
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18:44 < CIA-9> amery * r10201 /branches/2.1/package/base/wget/ (allow-tilde-in-url.patch wget.desc): * merged 9614 from trunk: updated wget (1.9.1 -> 1.10)
18:48 < karasz> re hi ;)
18:49 < minto> mnemoc: Remember the mime type removal patch you added to sun jre 1.5?
18:49 < karasz> any way to download t2 sources without svn?
18:49 < karasz> http maybe?
18:50 < morfoh> karasz: you can use subversion with http
18:50 < mnemoc> wget :)
18:50 < mnemoc> our svn repository is on http://
18:50 < morfoh> ah ... a different client
18:50 < morfoh> sorry
18:51 < karasz> i meant a tarrballed version of t2 source...
18:52 < mnemoc> tarball, 2.1.0-rc1 is on dl.t2-project.org
18:52 < karasz> thanks
18:52 < mnemoc> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2/
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18:53 < karasz> whoooow
18:53 < karasz> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2/ is realy fast
18:54 < mnemoc> i have a 2.1.0-rc2-pre minimal iso for p4 if you are interested
18:55 < karasz> sorry no p4 for me
18:55 < mnemoc> ok
18:55 < karasz> i will wait for pmmx
18:57 < CIA-9> amery * r10202 /branches/2.1/package/base/curl/curl.desc: * merged 8996 from trunk: updated curl (7.13.2 -> 7.14.0)
18:58 < CIA-9> amery * r10203 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/minimal.in: * added subversion to minimal template
19:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10204 /branches/2.1/package/develop/subversion/subversion.desc: * merged 10025 from trunk: updated subversion (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
19:03 < CIA-9> amery * r10205 /branches/2.1/package/base/psmisc/ (install.patch no-termcap.patch psmisc.desc): * merged 9195 from trunk: updated psmisc (21.5 -> 21.6)
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19:08 < minto> How are mimetypes generally set up in T2?
19:10 < morfoh> minto: I guess it depends on the application not on T2
19:11 < minto> Okay but what package is writing to /etc/mime.types ?
19:14 < minto> My point here is that multiple packages can write entries in the file /etc/mime.types
19:14 < minto> Unfortunately only one package can be owner of this file. I wonder which package it is.
19:17 < mnemoc> none, iirc
19:18 < minto> mnemoc: Is there no /etc/mime.types at all?
19:18 < mnemoc> /var/adm/flists/apache:apache: etc/opt/apache/mime.types
19:18 < mnemoc> /var/adm/flists/cups:cups: etc/cups/mime.types
19:19 < minto> every app has there own mime.types file?
19:19 < mnemoc> it seem so
19:19 < minto> isn't that strange?
19:20 < mnemoc> cups and apache are selfish :)
19:20 < minto> Like this a webbrowser doesn't support all mime.types that are available.
19:21 < minto> I was thinking like adding a mime.types packages and have it compile the actual mime.types files.
19:22 < minto> the entries come in like: for mime 'ls package/*/*/*.mime_type ; do bla bla done
19:22 < mnemoc> mime.type would belong to sysfiles
19:22 < mnemoc> using a similar method than to add entries to /etc/passwd
19:23 < minto> So something like this is feasable.
19:23 < mnemoc> ls package/*/*/*.mime_type is not emerge-safe
19:23 < mnemoc> use postsysfiles thing
19:23 < minto> What would be emerge safe?
19:24 < mnemoc> ./package/base/cron/postsysfiles.in
19:24 < minto> I will have a look at it.
19:25 < mnemoc> package/base/sysfiles/parse-config
19:27 < minto> I will give it a try, but before I commit anything is want someone to review it. :-)
19:27 < minto> is = I
19:29 < minto> I guess best thing to do is add it to the existing parse-config.
19:29 < minto> like: safe_mimetypeadd()
19:29 < minto> :-)
19:30 < mnemoc> yep
19:30 < minto> The only question is: What should be done if 2 packages add the same mime type?
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19:31 < alex-ii> Hello
19:31 < mnemoc> minto: the first win :)
19:31 < minto> :-)
19:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: + spitting out a message
19:33 < morfoh> hi alex-ii
19:33 < alex-ii> What's the build kit made of?
19:33 < mnemoc> alex-ii: what do you mean?
19:34 < alex-ii> What is it written in? What are the main components?
19:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: what message will also appear for send builds of the same packge
19:34 < mnemoc> alex-ii: bash/grep/sed/awk and text files
19:34 < alex-ii> uhm
19:35 < morfoh> alex-ii: what uhm ?
19:35 < mnemoc> dialog, curl, tar, bzip2
19:35 < alex-ii> dislike bash and unixism
19:36 < mnemoc> bash is the center of our wheel
19:36 < alex-ii> ok
19:37 < minto> alex-ii: But there are plans to change into c++. But that is way in the future.
19:38 < mnemoc> to optimize some routines
19:38 < CIA-9> chris * r10206 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (md5_size_t.patch ripemd_size_t.patch sha_size_t.patch): * added patches for md5, sha and ripemd headers to include stddef.h to satisfy third party code which rely on openssl like ruby
19:39 < veki> I was building mnemosyne and some packages are not addedd to the package database at 5he end since thier binary tar.bz have not been found. Tjose packages are mysql, openssh, openssl, openldap, zope, snort, chhetah etc.
19:40 < morfoh> alex-ii: if you dislike unixism why do you have interests in a build kit like t2 ? ;)
19:40 < mnemoc> veki: run Download -required
19:40 < veki> I built manually with ./scripts/Build-Pkg mysql successfully. I am building now openssl.
19:40 < alex-ii> :-)
19:41 < veki> Openssh failed due to the following reasons:
19:41 < mnemoc> veki: never use Build-Pkg directly
19:41 < morfoh> alex-ii: will I get more than a smile ? ;)
19:41 < alex-ii> morfoh: It looks like, it's not for me
19:42 < alex-ii> especially those plusses after C
19:42 < veki> mnemoc:hm, so how can i build those packages
19:42 < alex-ii> Though, I had a good impression about rock
19:42 < alex-ii> bye
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19:42 < mnemoc> veki: on a target, Build-Target. on a machine Emerge-Pkg
19:42 < morfoh> good impression about rock ????
19:43 < karasz> morfoh: you are a patient guy.....
19:43 < morfoh> I think some people shouldn't smoke chemicals
19:43 < morfoh> :)
19:43 < morfoh> karasz: why ?
19:43 < veki> mnemoc: all packages built successfully except those that I said. I would liek to know procedure what to do in thecase that all except some packages build
19:44 < veki> which /scripts/ command I have to use
19:44 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList helps you to reschedule packages and see errors
19:45 < mnemoc> Build-Pkg is for internal usage only
19:45 < karasz> morfof alex-ii
19:45 < karasz> strange guy
19:45 < CIA-9> chris * r10207 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (md5_size_t.patch ripemd_size_t.patch sha_size_t.patch): * injected forgotten copyright note for the patches
19:45 < karasz> <>
19:46 < karasz> on T2 chanel?
19:46 < karasz> :D
19:46 < mnemoc> :)
19:46 < mnemoc> i dislike chet, but i like bash
19:46 < morfoh> karasz: ok mostly I am patient. and I'm allways interested in the motivations of people ...
19:46 < karasz> morfoh: hmmm...
19:47 < veki> mnemoc: I am prompted after ./scripts/Create-ErrList that189 builds total, 0 completed fine, 0 with errors
19:47 < karasz> mnemoc: chet?
19:48 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $config -remove $pkg
19:48 < karasz> morfoh: sometimes you sound like a psychologist
19:48 < mnemoc> karasz: bash and readline owner
19:48 < CIA-9> chris * r10208 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ossl_x509store.patch: * added ruby patch which is needed due to the changes in openssl 0.9.8
19:50 < karasz> mnemoc: you may have your reasons... I will not go into that
19:50 < morfoh> karasz: I'm no psychologist, but I learned a lot about people ;)
19:51 < morfoh> karasz: perhaps I should visit a psychologist :p
19:51 < veki> mnemoc: hm, I got message that there 200 builds, 188 complewted fine, 12 have had errors
19:51 * minto wonders if alex-ii wanted something for windows, since he didn't like unixism?
19:51 < veki> and it listed those that I mentioned
19:51 * karasz thinks minto wonders to much :p
19:51 < mnemoc> veki: reschedule them
19:51 < mnemoc> veki: using -remove
19:52 < mnemoc> veki: and run Build-Target
19:52 < minto> karasz: That's because we like in a wonderful world full of wonders.
19:52 < veki> do not feel embarrassed guys, he was aksing something and he left. Be cool.
19:52 < mnemoc> i have to go, cu
19:52 < minto> like = live
19:52 * morfoh thinks karasz is a loud mouth :p
19:52 < minto> cu mnemoc
19:52 < morfoh> cu mnemoc :)
19:52 * karasz agrees with minto
19:52 < mnemoc> :)
19:52 < veki> cu mnemoc
19:52 < mnemoc> cu
19:52 < karasz> mnemoc: cu
19:53 < veki> how can I reschedule packages so, should I remove some packages that I really do nto ned much
19:53 * karasz thinking about a Windows target.....
19:54 < morfoh> veki: ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg YOURTARGET -remove PACKAGE will reschedule PACKAGE
19:54 * morfoh thinks karasz should go away with it's windows target :p
19:54 * karasz is embarassed and goes back to read
19:54 < morfoh> haha :)
19:55 < morfoh> karasz: as you see sometimes I can be quite ugly :)
19:55 < karasz> ?
19:55 < morfoh> but mostly for jocking ;)
19:55 < morfoh> joking
19:55 < karasz> morfoh: If we loose our sens of humor, nothing is left of us
19:55 < morfoh> karasz: ack
19:56 < CIA-9> amery * r10209 /branches/2.1/package/base/dietlibc/ (19 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9697,9700,9708 from trunk: fixed and cleaned dietlibc/parse-config-9
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9702 from trunk: fixed dietlibc/parse-config-9 to really inject --disable-shared
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9711 from trunk: added missing copyright headers to dietlibc files
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9722 from trunk: fixed pclose dereference after free() in pclose (bug discovered by jsaw)
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9709 from trunk: added a value.h stub header to dietlibc (to make popt happy)
19:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9714 from trunk: unmangled dietlibc patch filesnames
19:57 < veki> I rescheduled packages and restarted ./scripts/Build-target process
19:58 < morfoh> veki: good
19:59 < veki> I tired Dowload -required and i was prompted that there is cache found in download/Mirro, so the packages are here in my machine
19:59 < veki> guys, do not loose your nerves on strange guys. Micorosft here does have its www site on Linux, but all their ports are completely open!!!
19:59 < morfoh> veki: use Download -cfg YOURTARGET -required
20:00 < veki> yes, I have done that
20:00 < morfoh> minto: btw, what about your bootdisk ? any news ?
20:01 < veki> our government does have servers on RH and administrators put that you send mails instead to webmasert to root@localhost
20:01 < minto> nope, still have to add syslinux
20:01 < _Ragnar_> btw mozilla/firefox runs now ... was some outdated gtk libs
20:01 < morfoh> minto: where ? to bootdisk target'spkgsel ?
20:01 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: :)
20:01 < minto> No emerge
20:02 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: btw, hi :)
20:02 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: how is you embedded stuff evolving ?
20:02 < veki> _ragnar_: hi
20:04 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: didn't have time for much on that
20:05 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: ah ok ... so your soekris is idleing atm
20:06 < _Ragnar_> yea
20:06 < veki> I have to go now, cu later
20:06 < veki> bye
20:06 < morfoh> cu veki
20:07 < karasz> cu veki
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20:22 < minto> morfoh: ping
20:23 < morfoh> minto: pong
20:24 < minto> First, the muisjes are on their way. :-)
20:24 < morfoh> good :)
20:24 < minto> second, have you followed my mime type discussion with mnemoc?
20:24 < morfoh> minto: not really
20:25 < morfoh> minto: still questions ?
20:25 < minto> Well I want to enhance parse-config to be able to safely add mime types just like is done with users currently.
20:26 < minto> No I need some special bookkeeping, like the package that added a mime type and the file extesions being registered.
20:26 < minto> no = now
20:26 < minto> Where should I put this bookkeeping?
20:27 < minto> /var/adm/parse-config ?
20:28 < morfoh> minto: hmmm ... I think /var/adm/parse-config isn't really used anymore ... but I don't know it exactly.
20:29 < minto> Who knows?
20:29 < morfoh> minto: I think you should test it localy and asking rxr or mnemoc
20:29 < morfoh> sorry
20:29 < minto> Okay, thanks
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20:56 < valentin> short hi
20:56 < valentin> minto: thanks for your present
20:56 < morfoh> valentin: hi :)
20:56 < morfoh> valentin: how are your 2 girls ?
20:56 < valentin> both are fine, thank you
20:57 < morfoh> :)
21:00 < minto> hi valentin
21:00 < valentin> hi minto
21:00 < minto> The muisjes are on there way too.
21:00 < valentin> did you see the pictures ?
21:00 < minto> where?
21:00 < valentin> minto: you are so good to us
21:01 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/janna
21:01 < valentin> hope there is no typo in the url above
21:01 < minto> Valenting: the muisjes where only 1.35 Euro + 5,40 Euro for mail.
21:02 < valentin> i think my little girl likes your red what-ever-it-is pet
21:03 < minto> I like janna7 most
21:03 < valentin> :)
21:04 < minto> She smiling on it.
21:04 < minto> :-)
21:04 < valentin> she sometimes smiles or at least does some mimic that looks like smiling
21:04 < morfoh> minto: yes ... the 7th. picture is nice :)
21:04 < minto> valentin: not looks, is smiling :-)
21:05 < valentin> none of the pictures could capture the magic when holding her in the arms
21:05 < minto> I know, I hava had that experience almost 2 years ago.
21:05 < valentin> the feeling when she's grabing my finger
21:06 < minto> Have you already been kangaroeing?
21:06 < valentin> ouhm ??
21:06 < valentin> what is that
21:06 < minto> Have a bare janna on your bare chest.
21:07 < minto> except for daipers of course.
21:07 < minto> It is supposed to be very relaxing for babies.
21:08 < valentin> why this is called kangaroeng ? kerstin had the child on her bare chest right after birth an i had it everywhere, from legs over stomach to arms and shoulder (but not bare)
21:08 < valentin> she feels quite comfortable in uncomfortable positions
21:09 < minto> Because it is like the pouch of a kangaroe.
21:09 < valentin> she likes lieing on her mother and listen to her heartbeat
21:10 < minto> For pre-mature babies (like Merlyn) it is sort of mandatory since it is so relaxing for the babies.
21:11 < minto> Valentin: Of course she likes it. That's what she was hearing the last couple of months. :-)
21:11 < valentin> she is quite relaxed theese days and sleeps most of the time like new-borns tend to do
21:12 < valentin> i think this will change...
21:12 < minto> No necessarily.
21:13 < minto> Although Merlyn sleeps less now he still sleeps a lot.
21:13 < valentin> cycling between sleep, eat, nappy change, sleep, eat, ..
21:13 < minto> Yepp, welcome to parent hood.
21:13 < morfoh> daddytalk :)
21:14 < valentin> morfoh: its much fun and a good feeling
21:14 < minto> morfoh: I you hurry on creating a c4 we talk to you like this as well. :-)
21:14 < morfoh> valentin: I can imagine ... I like kids very much :)
21:14 < valentin> c4 ? did i miss something theese days ?
21:14 < minto> c4 is class 4 people.
21:15 < minto> c4 = children of class 2 (wasn't it)
21:15 < minto> c2 = people who got access to computer when they where kids.
21:16 < valentin> ?
21:16 < valentin> i do not need to understand that
21:17 < morfoh> valentin: it's just a classification of people at what age they started to have contact with computers
21:18 < valentin> so can you give me a complete list ?
21:18 < morfoh> oh I have to consult the irc logs for that
21:18 < valentin> ok, save your time then
21:18 < minto> mnemoc came up with it.
21:19 < valentin> so the higher the number, the later the puter ?
21:19 < minto> c1 = computers at university
21:19 < minto> c2 = computers at home when kid
21:19 < minto> c3 = computer at home when born
21:19 < minto> c4 = child of c2
21:19 < minto> c5 = child of c3
21:20 < minto> if I am correct.
21:20 < minto> mnemoc fears class 4 and 5.
21:20 < valentin> ok, so janna is c4
21:20 < minto> So he fears little Janna :-)
21:20 < morfoh> :)
21:20 < valentin> whats to fear there ? she's so cute ...
21:21 < minto> I think he fears is job when c4 and c5 starts working in IT.
21:21 < valentin> what about c6 = child of c[4,5] ?
21:22 < valentin> well, most c2 kids did not come deeper into materia than games and window~1
21:22 < minto> I guess it will take a while before c6 will arrive.
21:22 < morfoh> valentin: ack
21:22 < valentin> i think we could have c6 within ten years
21:23 < minto> poor little Janna :-)
21:23 < morfoh> valentin: that was my suggestion too ... because they are more consumers right now
21:23 < valentin> maybe there are c4's out there beeing almost ten
21:23 < minto> Just kidding
21:24 < valentin> we got contact to our computers in a time where they were big slow and boring things, so we had to learn programming to get anything usefull out of it
21:24 < morfoh> valentin: yep ...
21:25 < valentin> todays children have a big repository of entertaining software like games, so most will not be motivated to look inside the hardware stuff
21:26 < morfoh> just consumers
21:26 < valentin> what's the difference between c2 and c3
21:26 < minto> But I they like creating games more than playing it, this might change.
21:26 < minto> i = if
21:27 < valentin> the games today are so advanced no hobby project could catch up with
21:28 < minto> Do not forget the warm feeling inside when the first simple game is written. No hi tech advanced game can give the same feeling.
21:28 < valentin> ok :)
21:28 < valentin> but you will not get much karma points by your friends
21:28 < minto> This is how I started
21:28 * morfoh has to eat sth ...
21:28 < morfoh> minto: :)
21:29 < minto> My games, even back then, where more simple than what was around.
21:29 < valentin> do you have playable versions that work in linux ?
21:29 < minto> No will earn any karma points by playing Halo either.
21:30 < minto> Nope back then it was on a sharp MZ 700
21:30 < minto> I am talking about the 80's
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21:37 < keinek2> hi from my notebook :)
21:37 < morfoh> minto: you wrote a game on a "pocket calculator" :)
21:39 < karasz> valentin: my opinion is that children will be motivated to look inside the hardware stuff regardles of games
21:40 < karasz> shear curiosity will bring them to it
21:40 < karasz> just my 2 cents
21:40 < morfoh> http://www.sharpmz.org/
21:41 < valentin> karasz: maybe i should teach janna C before i teach her german
21:42 < karasz> uhmmm....
21:42 < karasz> C is for us old timers
21:42 < valentin> just kidding
21:42 < karasz> you should teach her D
21:42 < morfoh> karasz: I think it depends on the available resources around ... i.e. if you've to repair sth. on your own you've to learn the basic functions at least
21:42 < karasz> :D
21:42 < valentin> well i prefere C++ or objective C]
21:43 < karasz> morfoh: ack
21:43 < valentin> morfoh: normaly childs are quite good in departing things and leave the repair to the parents
21:43 < minto> morfoh: No a pocket calculator. But the site seems to be the one.
21:44 < morfoh> minto: I know .)
21:44 < valentin> so, have to go now, cu all and have a good night
21:44 < morfoh> minto: it looks quite robust :)
21:44 < minto> cu valentin
21:44 < karasz> http://www.cafepress.com/mz700.11666428
21:44 < valentin> and i will try to enjoy my last night without interuptions
21:44 < morfoh> ok valentin ... cu you greetings to your girls :)
21:44 < karasz> cu
21:45 < karasz> o_O
21:45 < minto> karasz: You can wear that :-D
21:46 < karasz> yeah... right
21:46 < karasz> but http://www.cafepress.com/mz700.11666483
21:46 < karasz> O_O
21:47 < minto> that one is for me.
21:47 < karasz> than we make a "good" pair :D
21:48 < morfoh> pfff .... :D
21:49 < minto> Sorry karasz, I am already taken. :)
21:49 < karasz> :D :D :D
21:49 < karasz> me too ;)
21:49 < minto> :D
21:54 < morfoh> .oO( this procps on diet is killing my nerves )o ...
21:55 < _Ragnar_> ?
21:56 < karasz> ufff....
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21:56 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: I can't figure out what the problem ... :/
21:56 < _Ragnar_> :\
21:57 < morfoh> if someone is able to get it working please drop me a note ... I'll skip it for now ...
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21:59 < karasz> modifying postgresql source tree to run with mpi, pvm is not my plate
21:59 < karasz> ufff...
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22:05 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
22:05 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
22:05 [Users #t2]
22:05 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ minto ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
22:05 [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ sepp ]
22:05 [ dsoul ] [ madtux] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ SerWou]
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22:05 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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22:05 < minto> karasz done worry I am not easily aggrivated
22:05 < morfoh> minto: a men gat a life sentence because some witnesses told the jury that he said that
22:06 < morfoh> of course a muslim
22:06 < minto> So much for free speech
22:06 < morfoh> yep
22:08 < minto> I am off now, cu guys
22:08 < morfoh> cu minto ... sleep well :)
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22:09 < morfoh> rxr: afaics procps is the last issue in the current diet embedded target
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22:23 < CIA-9> chris * r10210 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * moved iptables from to uclibc specific to the global pkgsel because we are able to build it using dietlibc now ;)
22:54 < CIA-9> chris * r10211 /trunk/package/network/iptables/ (iptables.conf iptables.desc):
22:54 < CIA-9> * removed NOPARALLEL flag
22:54 < CIA-9> * added DIETLIBC flag
22:54 < CIA-9> * beautyfied iptables.conf
22:55 < mnemoc> c{1,2,3} are not persons, they are geeks. most c2 and c3 are not geeks
22:55 < mnemoc> err
22:56 < mnemoc> c{1,2,3} are not persons, they are geeks. most people who get copmputers are not geeks
22:56 < mnemoc> what i fear is the children of the geeks
22:56 < morfoh> and geeks are no persons ?
22:56 < morfoh> :)
22:56 < mnemoc> .oO
22:56 < morfoh> gotcha :)
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22:57 < mnemoc> they are humans... but persons? uhm.... yes, more person than nerds and freaks :)
22:57 < morfoh> :)
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23:08 < veki> hi
23:09 < veki> I rescheduled packages for mnemosyen and started again ./scripts/Build-target -cfg....
23:11 < veki> I have 4 packages that are built, but still 8 packages lagging which ar enot built for the same reason, i.e there is no binary tar.bz2 that i snot included in package database. I Think that I should choose ow that are really substantial and ommit those which I maybe do not need and reschedule again and try to build. What you think about that?
23:12 < mnemoc> Download them
23:13 < mnemoc> if you want them, download them
23:13 < veki> hm, when issue command ./scripts/Download -cfg foo -required it says thatthere is cache found on Download/Mirror and it does not download them
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23:13 < veki> I think that they are downloaded but there is something el;se which prevents compiling
23:14 < mnemoc> publish your error log
23:14 < veki> I will check now error logs and let you know
23:18 < karasz> cu guys
23:18 < karasz> got to go now, tomorrow is getting up early
23:18 < karasz> :(
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23:24 < veki> I have checked why snort have not been built
23:24 < veki> checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... yes
23:24 < veki> checking for libprelude-config... /opt/prelude/bin/libprelude-config
23:24 < veki> checking for libprelude - version >= 0.9.0... yes
23:24 < veki> checking for mysql...
23:24 < veki> **********************************************
23:24 < veki> ERROR: unable to find mysql headers (mysql.h)
23:24 < veki> checked in the following places
23:24 < veki> /opt/mysql/include
23:24 < veki> /opt/mysql/include/mysql
23:24 < veki> **********************************************
23:24 < veki> Running make -j4 CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/opt/snort.
23:24 < veki> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
23:24 < veki> Due to previous errors, no 5-snort.log file!
23:24 < veki> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
23:25 < veki> mysql was built manually and after that it could not find it
23:25 < mnemoc> i said publish :(
23:26 < mnemoc> that's simply lack of mysql
23:26 < morfoh> veki: publish means open an issue/ticket on https://trac.t2-project.org
23:27 < veki> OK, thanks
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23:48 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10212 /trunk/package/graphic/hugin/ (hugin.cache hugin.conf): * changed hugin to use wxwidgets(26)
23:48 < CIA-9> chris * r10213 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * added vlan package to generic embedded target
23:56 < veki> morfoh: I submitted ticket. i am sorry, I was not aware of ticket system
23:57 < morfoh> veki: no problem so far ... but please try also to read the fine manual rene wrote ... also if it's a bit outdated, but it could be very helpful ;)
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