T2 IRC Log: 2005-07-23

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--- Log opened Sat Jul 23 00:00:00 2005
00:31 < keinek> hi
00:31 < keinek> i back
00:31 < keinek> :)
00:31 < keinek> karasz, yes i just a joke.
00:32 < keinek> :)
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08:22 < minto> moin
09:24 < CIA-9> msluis * r10572 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
09:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r10573 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-back/gnustep-back.desc: * updated gnustep-back (0.9.5 -> 0.10.0)
09:37 < CIA-9> msluis * r10574 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: * updated live (2005.02.14 -> 2005.07.23)
09:37 < CIA-9> msluis * r10575 /trunk/package/x11/libdockapp/libdockapp.desc: * updated libdockapp (0.5.0 -> 0.6.1)
09:42 < CIA-9> msluis * r10576 /trunk/package/x11/icewm/icewm.desc: * updated icewm (1.2.21 -> 1.2.22)
09:55 < Shingo--> I'm get a error compiling gettext, about don't find a file.
09:55 < Shingo--> I'm using 2.1.0-rc1
09:56 < CIA-9> msluis * r10577 /trunk/package/perl/perl-io-socket-ssl/perl-io-socket-ssl.desc: * updated perl-io-socket-ssl (0.96 -> 0.97)
10:01 < Shingo--> hi, can any one help me?
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11:29 < Shingo--> hi.
11:41 < SerWou> morning
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11:59 < Veki> morning
12:00 < Veki> I have tried to build target, but I have noticed when the paranoia checks are marked that i say that there i sno swap partition actibe athought there is swap partition active.
12:02 < sepp> it reads /proc/swaps
12:04 < Veki> hm, yes, I am not sure that it is needed so much to use paranoia check. Am I right?
12:04 < sepp> if you are not paranoid ...
12:05 < Veki> the fact that you are not paranoid does not exclude the fact that they follow you :-)
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12:18 < minto> hi all
12:19 < sepp> hi minto
12:22 < Veki> hi minto
12:23 < Veki> I installed cdcd 0.66 that you out in trunk. Even it sound sbetter than old version 0.5
12:27 < minto> :-) Hi Veki
12:27 < Veki> thanks gain minto :)
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12:28 < Veki> ok, when you will have time you can teach me how to add package. I have to need more that part of manual, minto
12:28 < minto> hi morfoh :-)
12:28 < Veki> hi morfoh
12:28 < morfoh> moin minto, Veki :)
12:28 < Veki> min :-)
12:28 < minto> Veki, first decide what package you want to add and check if all dependancies are already part of T2.
12:29 < Veki> minto: OK, I think that I will today study that part of manual and be ready for tonight vamp session
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12:32 < minto> morfoh: linux24 still fails with the depmod stuff :-(
12:34 < morfoh> minto: :(
12:34 < morfoh> minto: but unfortunately I've very limited time today :(
12:34 < minto> So optimization is not to blame
12:34 < morfoh> minto: seems so
12:35 < minto> :-( I am on my own then
12:35 < morfoh> minto: you'll never be alone on #t2 ;)
12:35 < minto> :-)
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12:51 < Veki> minto: I am planning to include package rivendell www.salemradiolabs.com It requires alsa, mysql which are already in t2.
12:52 < Veki> I trequires two packages more which are not as far as I know in t2
12:52 < minto> Start adding the other packages first.
12:53 < Veki> minto: ok, tonight, I am still reading that part of manual in ordert to be really sure what to do , so that I do not bother you and other guys too much
12:53 < Veki> morfoh and me call that vamp session. I was kidding when I was describing that I am wakae whole nights as a vampire and we call it in short : vamp session
12:53 < Veki> :)
12:54 < morfoh> Veki: reading is ok ... but take a look into some ".desc" files to see how it works ... mostly it's very easy
12:54 < minto> As long as the packages you add use the configure; make; make install cycly it is really easy to add packages.
12:55 < minto> Take the cdcd package .desc file for example. Look in the manual what the tag means and you are ready to create your own. :-)
12:56 < Veki> morfoh: thanks, as far as i know it is configure, make, amke install cycle. Thanks, I will do that,. Thanks minto and morfoh
12:59 < minto> Veki: you can also use ./misc/archive/newpackage.sh package//
13:00 < Veki> OK, I will check that and see how I can do that :)
13:00 < minto> veki: If the package has a freshmeat entry it is even more simple. Then you can use
13:00 < minto> .misc/archive/fmnewpackage.sh /
13:06 < Veki> I have to go now, see you this evening or afternoon
13:07 < Veki> cu
13:07 < minto> cu Veki
13:09 < morfoh> cu
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13:26 < morfoh> ok ... bbl
13:28 < Shingo--> hi, I'm build the system over nfs mount does any problem doing this?
13:30 < minto> If nfs mounts can be used in chroot the it might not be a problem. Just try it, you will find out soon enough :-)
13:31 < minto> But I think it does slow down the build process. A lot of I/O is done. If you use nfs al this I/O crosses the network as well.
13:31 < morfoh> Shingo--: but I think this will increase the build time. of course depending on the network throughput ...
13:32 < morfoh> cu later guys
13:32 < minto> cu morfoh
13:32 < minto> morfoh: why increase?
13:33 < Shingo--> yes, the problem exists.
13:33 < Shingo--> on build 3, a get access denied on /dev/null.
13:33 < Shingo--> but, I mount my /dev/ on root build and works.
13:37 < Shingo--> for a short time. :-(
13:37 < minto> i gotta go too, cu all
13:37 < Shingo--> cu
13:39 < Shingo--> I'm moving the build folder to local storage.
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14:10 < morfoh> Shingo--: ack. I think you'll have more fun building T2 on a local storage ;)
14:11 < morfoh> Shingo--: but anyway we should improve network builds especially for build clusters ... but this is coming later ;)
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14:54 < karasz> hi guys
14:54 < karasz> hi morfoh
14:54 < Shingo--> hi
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16:30 < keinek> morning :)
16:55 < mnemoc> moin
16:55 < mnemoc> hi keinek
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17:01 < keinek> hi mnemoc
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17:30 < minto> hi all
17:33 < CIA-9> amery * r10578 /trunk/package/develop/clip/getpatch.sh: * changed clip's getpatch.sh to use wget instead of curl - curl has troubles fetching files from their ftp
17:33 < CIA-9> amery * r10579 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.desc: * updated clip (1.1.14-1 -> 1.1.14-80)
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17:45 < morfoh> re hi
17:45 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
17:45 < morfoh> hi "non chief" :)
17:45 < mnemoc> :)
17:46 < karasz> re hi everyone
17:47 < karasz> looks like gentoo is in da house...
17:47 < karasz> hi neoss
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17:52 < mnemoc> nice to see a gentoo visitor here
17:54 < dsoul> visitor?:)
17:56 < mnemoc> :)
17:59 < morfoh> yeah ... indeed the last days there were some gentoo users here, but unfortunately they don't speak with us. perhaps they are a bit paralized because of the quite rude behaviour on #gentoo. guys! please talk to us. ask questions ... we want to help to lower your burden :)
17:59 < dsoul> ;P
17:59 < minto> piekaboo, gentoo user I see you :-)
17:59 < minto> hi all
18:00 < morfoh> that was not a joke!
18:00 < morfoh> I was a gentoo user too .... so what's up
18:00 < dsoul> so don't look at my chanlist ;p
18:00 < minto> I was even worse, I was a windows user :D
18:00 < mnemoc> :)
18:00 < minto> And I can speak freely here
18:01 < morfoh> :)
18:01 < mnemoc> anyone is accepted here... except mandrake users :p
18:01 < morfoh> that's the way #t2 is
18:01 < dsoul> lol
18:01 < morfoh> shame on you mnemoc :)
18:01 < dsoul> mandriva ;>
18:01 < mnemoc> hehe
18:01 < mnemoc> poor conectiva :(
18:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: pfff .... the good guys from the north helped the poor guys from the south ... we know how it works ;)
18:02 < CIA-9> amery * r10580 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/dvbd/dvbd.desc: * merged 9534 from trunk: updated dvbd (0.7.6 -> 0.7.7)
18:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
18:04 < CIA-9> amery * r10581 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/libcdio/libcdio.desc: * merged 9506 from trunk: updated libcdio (0.72 -> 0.74)
18:04 < mnemoc> how helpfull you northern people are :)
18:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: you know ... "development aid" :)
18:04 < dsoul> but it's still linux
18:04 < minto> You know us northeners, Only if can become rich we are willing to help.
18:05 < mnemoc> :)
18:05 < dsoul> ;p
18:05 < karasz> what is wrong with mandrake?
18:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: and sometime if we need PR we hire some clowns like Elton John or Bono "bonobo" and to show the world how good we're
18:05 < mnemoc> :D
18:05 < CIA-9> amery * r10582 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * merged 8976 from trunk: updated xine-lib (1.0 -> 1.0.1)
18:05 < morfoh> :D
18:06 < mnemoc> don't forget mtv
18:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: don't forget that I'm "nontv"
18:06 < dsoul> karasz: they make users stupid
18:06 < karasz> dsoul: how?
18:06 < dsoul> no nontv, tv-free :P
18:07 < morfoh> karasz: emulating windows
18:07 < dsoul> yes
18:07 < mnemoc> pro-lazyness
18:07 < karasz> hmmm....
18:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: mouse junkies
18:07 < dsoul> linux will never be like windows
18:07 < mnemoc> .oO( what about apt-get junkies? )o
18:07 < karasz> i didn't used mandrake, but now i use pclinuxos
18:08 * mnemoc googling
18:08 < karasz> i guess somewhere is mandrake based...
18:08 < karasz> korektion
18:08 < karasz> i am sure it is mandrake based
18:08 < karasz> and i am very pleased with it as a desktop os for several reasons...
18:09 < dsoul> mnemoc: apt-get junkies still have a chance :>
18:09 < CIA-9> amery * r10583 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/blender/blender.desc: * merged 9602 from trunk: updated blender (2.36 -> 2.37)
18:09 < dsoul> just like emerge ;p
18:09 < morfoh> we could get rich if we would cut all the not needed hands and arms from the windows users and sell them as organ donation.
18:09 < karasz> morfoh: you are very acid today .. :)
18:09 < morfoh> .oO( ok enough bashing for today ) :p
18:10 < mnemoc> a person that ignores a security fix because apt-get claims it doesn't exist, is not really a linux user imo
18:10 < karasz> windows users have their place in the world too...
18:10 < morfoh> karasz: mostly joking :)
18:10 < karasz> that is true morfoh but now i am not
18:10 < morfoh> karasz: ack .... the users have their place on this world but not the O$
18:11 < mnemoc> karasz: just fun :)
18:11 < morfoh> karasz: come on
18:11 < mnemoc> karasz: don't take it personal
18:11 < karasz> no chanses
18:11 < morfoh> karasz: what's the problem ?
18:11 < karasz> a parrot does not take anything personal
18:11 < mnemoc> karasz: every linux flavor has it's target users, all are welcomed
18:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
18:12 < morfoh> karasz: I think you know us quite well in the time you're here
18:12 < karasz> as allways mnemoc ends the discussion being right :)
18:12 < morfoh> :)
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18:13 < karasz> morfoh: i try to know you guys
18:13 < karasz> :D
18:13 < morfoh> karasz: :D
18:13 < dsoul> if we wouldn't joke, there will be only "@%#^$^%$& why this fscking thing is still not working :/"
18:13 < minto> What are you guys doing, You scared lewellyn off :)
18:13 < morfoh> minto: I guess not
18:13 * karasz is hiding
18:14 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
18:14 * karasz is thinking "not again!?"
18:14 < morfoh> minto: Lewellyn is tough guy
18:14 < dsoul> not scare, just kill his shell ;p
18:14 < minto> he is governator???? He will be BACK?
18:15 < morfoh> minto: but hopefully not with a "death sentence" in his pocket ;)
18:15 < morfoh> real governator likes that
18:15 < minto> No that was the italion stallion in Judge Dread :D
18:16 < morfoh> minto: now Ican imagine what films you're watching while being a "couch potato" ;)
18:17 < minto> :)
18:17 < minto> When I am a couch potato I do not want to think, what movies are better for that than hollywood ones :)
18:18 < karasz> minto: try Indian ones ;)
18:19 < karasz> did you know guys that tey make the most movies?
18:19 < CIA-9> amery * r10584 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/maverik/ (config.hlp config.in maverik.conf): * merged 9242,9243 from trunk: cleaned maverik .conf and removed prefix config option
18:19 < karasz> 3 times more than Hollywood
18:19 < minto> Yepp
18:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: release master ... do you have a work list regarding rc2 ?
18:19 < minto> Bollywood festival was in amsterdam this year
18:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: commit safe stuff pending on my test box, try your changes on openssl, one else i forgot now and tag
18:20 < karasz> question: What does lag mean?
18:20 < mnemoc> latency
18:20 < morfoh> karasz: tag or lag ?
18:20 < karasz> and lag
18:21 < karasz> and where is a "g" in latency?
18:21 < mnemoc> jargon i guess
18:21 < karasz> ihm
18:21 < karasz> thanks
18:22 < mnemoc> oh
18:22 < mnemoc> it's a real word
18:22 < mnemoc> "To proceed or develop with comparative slowness"
18:22 < karasz> does anybody have a list of requirements for compiling t2 from svn?
18:23 < karasz> i mean gcc version, libs and stuff...
18:23 < mnemoc> 'modern system' + curl + neon/subversion + gcc :)
18:23 < mnemoc> and bash :p
18:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: ^ so no debian ? :p
18:24 < karasz> why curl and not wget?
18:24 < mnemoc> Download is curl based
18:24 < karasz> know that, i am interested in the reason why..
18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: if the debian has the required stuff, it should work :)
18:24 < karasz> is curl smarter than wget?
18:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ok ... I
18:24 < karasz> or better?
18:25 < mnemoc> it's more complete, but i have no clue why clifford choose it
18:25 * morfoh should should up ... karasz was right. I'm quite acid today
18:25 < morfoh> :p
18:26 < mnemoc> nah
18:26 < dsoul> curl is more advanced
18:26 < mnemoc> we simply speak less serious sometimes.... like yesterday with the naked queens thing
18:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't know what I'm not typing, but what's in my head :p
18:26 < mnemoc> :)
18:27 < karasz> anyone knows if wget has a licencing issue?
18:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: we'll know that our "secretary of gameing" is a i bit p0rn adicted ;)
18:27 < morfoh> we all
18:29 < CIA-9> amery * r10585 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/rte/ (configure.patch rte.desc): * merged 9509 from trunk: updated rte (0.5.2 -> 0.5.6)
18:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
18:35 < karasz> got it now
18:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: what openssl stuff do we wanna merge into 2.1 ? dietlibc changes ?
18:35 < karasz> anyone interested in why curl and not wget?
18:35 < morfoh> karasz: go ahead and tell us the reasons ;)
18:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: can trac mail to list the tickets?
18:37 < mnemoc> morfoh: the cleanup and then dietlibc changes
18:37 < morfoh> ok
18:37 < minto> morfoh have you forgotten your pills again?
18:37 < minto> morfoh: If you have that much energy maybe you can have look why linux24 is still failing on noisy?
18:37 < minto> :-)
18:37 < mnemoc> karasz: sure
18:37 < minto> Is an easy way to update patches when updating packages?
18:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes it can ... but I've to configure the mailserver on the box ;)
18:37 < mnemoc> morfoh: locally??
18:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: ?
18:38 < mnemoc> "on the box"
18:38 < CIA-9> amery * r10586 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/vdr/ (pkg_xine-lib_post.conf vdr.conf vdr.desc):
18:38 < CIA-9> * merged 9238,9819 from trunk: updated vdr (1.3.23 -> 1.3.27)
18:38 < CIA-9> * merged 9238 from trunk: updated vdr plugins: ssoftdevice (0.1.1 -> 0.1.2), xine (0.6.5 -> 0.7.4)
18:38 < CIA-9> * merged 9240 from trunk: updated vdr plugins: mp3/mplayer (0.9.12), bitstreamout (0.83a), femon (0.9.0)
18:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll take a look what's needed. ok ?
18:38 < morfoh> minto: what pills ?
18:39 < morfoh> minto: btw, I don't take any pills ;)
18:39 < karasz> mnemoc: http://pastebin.com/319202
18:39 < minto> I was just kidding. You where so full of energy (and nonsense)
18:40 < morfoh> minto: mostly nonsense I think ;)
18:40 < karasz> a whole lot of stuff abt curl and wget at http://curl.haxx.se/docs/comparison-table.h
18:40 < karasz> a whole lot of stuff abt curl and wget at http://curl.haxx.se/docs/comparison-table.html
18:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: ok
18:40 < CIA-9> amery * r10587 /branches/2.1/package/network/netkit-base/inetd.conf: * merged 9459 from trunk: removed the -t120 from the ident.d invocation in inetd.conf, it's the default value.
18:42 < mnemoc> karasz: stuff we don't really need, but it should have been a decition for future scalability :)
18:42 < karasz> and I guess wget is no longer developped, but then again I may be wrong as ususal... :)
18:43 < mnemoc> as usual?
18:43 < karasz> yep
18:43 < karasz> my typo...
18:43 < mnemoc> yet-another-depresive here :(
18:44 < karasz> ?
18:44 < minto> Someone else who needs pills, I guess.
18:44 < karasz> ???
18:44 * mnemoc going to get another coke glass
18:45 * karasz coke contains coffeine, you should watch out for your health.. :)
18:46 < mnemoc> health? what is that?
18:46 < minto> And for your nose too ;-)
18:46 < mnemoc> hehe
18:46 * karasz can't talk right now, got mouth full of coffe
18:47 * karasz karasz knows minto doesn't like coffe at all
18:47 * karasz thinks he must quit that habbit ;)
18:48 < mnemoc> join the coffee-sect :)
18:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: wb :)
18:49 < karasz> :D
18:50 < karasz> minto: who needs pils?
18:50 < karasz> I mean pills
18:50 < karasz> mnemoc: who is depresive?
18:51 < mnemoc> i take my right to not answer that
18:51 < karasz> ouch! ok
18:51 < karasz> ;)
18:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think that's a good habbit
18:51 < mnemoc> :)
18:52 < morfoh> :D
18:52 * karasz thinks that he should learn that habbit
18:52 < mnemoc> :)
18:52 * karasz is blushing
18:53 < morfoh> karasz: better than brushing :)
18:53 * karasz stops blushing and ties to move on with his life
18:53 < CIA-9> amery * r10588 /branches/2.1/package/network/ifplugd/ifplugd.desc: * merged 9428 from trunk: updated ifplugd (0.27 -> 0.28)
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18:54 * karasz should use one of that M$ keyboards with only 3 buttons
18:54 * karasz 100 buttons are to much for him
18:54 < morfoh> poor karasz :)
18:55 < karasz> morfoh: when i will grow big i wil not make typos anymore
18:56 < karasz> at least that's what i've been told
18:56 < mnemoc> typos are part of your life, always
18:57 < mnemoc> he have to learn to live it them
18:57 < karasz> typos can kill you :(
18:57 < morfoh> karasz: passing the street can kill you too ;)
18:58 < CIA-9> amery * r10589 /branches/2.1/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * merged 9535 from trunk: updated squid (2.5.STABLE9 -> 2.5.STABLE10)
18:58 < karasz> my granma' died because of a typo
18:58 < mnemoc> karasz: complete that
18:58 < karasz> ?
18:59 < mnemoc> why did your granma died because of a typo?
18:59 < _Ragnar_> moin moin
18:59 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
18:59 < morfoh> moin Ragnar
18:59 < karasz> she was prescribed some powerfull pills, she should have been taking 3 pills per day so 3X1
19:00 < karasz> pharmacist wrote on the pills 3X3
19:00 < mnemoc> outch
19:00 < karasz> she couldn't take it
19:00 < karasz> and 1 day of pills were enough
19:01 < morfoh> karasz: I'm sorry for your granma
19:01 < karasz> thanks
19:02 < karasz> but life goes on and sadness doesn't help anyone
19:02 < morfoh> karasz: it seems to be quite common that doctors prescribing the wrong stuff. same with my dad.
19:02 < karasz> so we shouldn't be sad :)
19:02 < CIA-9> amery * r10590 /branches/2.1/package/network/wwwoffle/wwwoffle.desc: * merged (partially) 9368 from trunk: updated wwwoffle (2.8d -> 2.8e)
19:03 < karasz> stuff was ok but not the amount
19:03 < karasz> it was the pharmacist's mistake not the doctor
19:03 < morfoh> karasz: he became allmost blind due to the wrong medicine
19:03 < karasz> stuff like that happens
19:04 < morfoh> but now he's feeling well again
19:04 < karasz> in the end doctors are just human
19:04 < karasz> i am glad to hear that
19:04 < morfoh> karasz: mostly
19:04 < valentin> hi
19:05 < morfoh> valentin: hey daddy :)
19:05 < valentin> since i got some exerience in bioinformatics and drug design methods, i do not belive in medicine anymore
19:05 < mnemoc> hi janna's father
19:05 < valentin> hi mnemoc, morfoh, karasz
19:05 < valentin> take some herbal medicine, it is based on decades of experience
19:06 < valentin> not that new pharma stuff that is mostly based on some shitty data evaluation
19:06 < karasz> hi valentin
19:06 < morfoh> valentin: ack
19:07 < valentin> i helped working for a doctorate in that topic focusing on chemo-therapy stuff for cancer
19:08 < valentin> we read many papers and had to shake our head about the methods biologists use to evaluate stuff
19:08 < valentin> you could feed them random data and they even would extract some "interessting" results from that
19:08 < valentin> (basicaly most data they work with seems to be quite random if you take a closer look at)
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19:09 < CIA-9> amery * r10591 /branches/2.1/package/network/tor/ (tor.conf tor.desc):
19:09 < CIA-9> * merged (partially) 9368,9800,10048 from trunk: updated tor (0.0.9.8 -> 0.1.0.11)
19:09 < CIA-9> * merged 9801 from trunk: marked tor as Stable, and added dirty hack on configure
19:11 < CIA-9> amery * r10592 /branches/2.1/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.desc: * merged 9248 from trunk: updated ettercap (NG-0.7.2 -> NG-0.7.3)
19:11 < karasz> morfoh: query?
19:11 < CIA-9> chris * r10593 /branches/2.1/package/security/openssl/openssl.conf: * merged 10296: removed hard wired configure option for building shared libraries and added a small test if "shared" option should be injected
19:12 < valentin> so how is live in the t2 channel theese days ?
19:12 < morfoh> valentin: quite active as mostly ;)
19:13 < morfoh> take a look on the commit graph ;)
19:13 < valentin> yes, i did :)
19:13 < morfoh> :)
19:14 * mnemoc looking
19:14 < CIA-9> amery * r10594 /branches/2.1/package/network/amule/amule.desc: * merged 9601,9720 from trunk: updated amule (2.0.1 -> 2.0.3)
19:14 < valentin> have to cook some stuff for my bigger girl
19:14 < minto> valentin: It is especially amazing if you take the rubbish into account that passed to here :-)
19:14 < minto> btw how are you and your girls?
19:14 < valentin> very good, thank you
19:14 < minto> :-)
19:14 < valentin> janna is now a bit more awake during the day
19:15 < minto> and are you ready to become the next diaper king ;-)
19:15 < valentin> we've got the feeling she wants to be entertained and taken care of by mom and dad, because she starts crying when beeing left alone
19:15 < valentin> minto: i am
19:16 < minto> Oh boy, spoiling her already.
19:16 < valentin> feeding our trashcan with tons of nappys
19:16 < valentin> our trash has to be emptied three time as often now
19:16 < minto> It will stay like that for a loooong while
19:17 < valentin> i think it will even get worse as the diaper sizes grow exponentially
19:17 < minto> Yeah, but the rate goes down
19:17 < valentin> :)
19:18 < valentin> has your boy learned to use the toiled already ?
19:18 < minto> You know of any smart way to update patches when updating a package?
19:18 < CIA-9> amery * r10595 /branches/2.1/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * merged 9725 from trunk: updated bittorrent (4.0.0 -> 4.0.2) - marked as Stable
19:19 < valentin> minto: i am holding her now
19:19 < valentin> minto: not a very easy way
19:19 < minto> Be careful, holding and typing at the same time is challenging murphy law.
19:20 < mnemoc> :)
19:20 < mnemoc> she has to get used to sleep with computer fan noise :)
19:21 < minto> Bring her over here and she can do that in here own bed.
19:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10596 /branches/2.1/package/network/libgift/libgift.desc: * merged 9245 from trunk: updated libgift/gift-openft (0.2.1.5 -> 0.2.1.6) - .desc cleanup
19:25 < valentin> naa, when she is older, there will be no noise anymore because everyone :)
19:26 < valentin> s/^ :)/ will be using economic computers then :)/
19:26 < valentin> i have to do lunch now, bbl
19:26 < mnemoc> cu valentin
19:27 < minto> cu valentin
19:27 < minto> btw , odd lunch time
19:32 < CIA-9> amery * r10597 /branches/2.1/package/network/apollon/apollon.desc: * merged 9246 from trunk: updated apollon (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2.1)
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19:39 < CIA-9> amery * r10598 /branches/2.1/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * merged 9503 from trunk: updated lftp (3.1.3 -> 3.2.1)
19:42 < CIA-9> amery * r10599 /branches/2.1/package/network/csync2/csync2.desc: * merged 9730 from trunk: updated csync2 (1.16 -> 1.19)
19:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10600 /branches/2.1/package/network/acx100/acx100.desc: * merged 9584 from trunk: updated acx100 (0.2.0pre8-56 -> 0.2.0pre8-57)
19:53 < CIA-9> amery * r10601 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (0.5.3 -> 0.6)
19:54 < CIA-9> amery * r10602 /branches/2.1/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * merged 9241 from trunk: updated lat (0.5.1 -> 0.5.3) - it doesn't need gettext.dll anymore
19:55 < CIA-9> amery * r10603 /branches/2.1/package/network/libotr/libotr.desc: * merged 9554 from trunk: updated libotr (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
19:57 < CIA-9> amery * r10604 /branches/2.1/package/network/smbc/smbc.desc: * merged 9617,9991 from trunk: updated smbc (1.2.0 -> 1.2.2)
20:13 < CIA-9> amery * r10605 /branches/2.1/package/network/validator/validator.desc: * merged (kind of) 9616 from trunk: updated validator (1.2 -> 1.2.2)
20:16 < karasz> nay helping hands here?
20:16 < karasz> nay-any
20:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10606 /branches/2.1/package/network/gaim-otr/gaim-otr.desc: * merged 9555 from trunk: updated gaim-otr (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
20:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10607 /branches/2.1/package/printing/cups/ (cups.conf setprinter.patch): * merged 9325 from trunk: fixed cups to not patch, but use the install wrapper to transform names
20:21 < CIA-9> chris * r10608 /branches/2.1/package/base/dietlibc/ (parse-config-9 pkg_openssl_post.conf): * merged 10297,10299,10378: fixing and enhancing openssl build on dietlibc
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20:22 < karasz> any helping hands here?
20:22 < CIA-9> amery * r10609 /branches/2.1/package/ruby/eruby/eruby.desc: * merged 9260 from trunk: updated eruby (1.0.3 -> 1.0.5)
20:23 < morfoh> karasz: what's the problem ? but I'll just have short time because I'm invited to a party
20:23 < morfoh> ;)
20:23 < karasz> good for you
20:23 < mnemoc_> did i miss anything?
20:23 < karasz> i have a working linux station
20:23 < morfoh> mnemoc_: nope
20:23 < karasz> made a directory in root for t2
20:24 < karasz> svn stable in that dir
20:24 < morfoh> mnemoc_: just a commit flood from a strange guy from chile ;)
20:24 < mnemoc_> :)
20:24 < morfoh> this is mnemoc I like :)
20:24 < karasz> my builds will affect the OS?
20:24 < morfoh> committing while laughing
20:24 < mnemoc_> karasz: nope
20:24 < karasz> ok
20:25 < karasz> is there a script to check if enviroment is sane?
20:25 < mnemoc_> they will consume resources
20:25 < mnemoc_> but change anything
20:25 < karasz> ;)
20:25 < mnemoc_> nothing i mean
20:25 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Check-System but it's aproval warranties nothing
20:27 < karasz> no makeinfo
20:28 < mnemoc_> emerge it, using -deps=none
20:28 < mnemoc_> or you whatever your linux use to add packages
20:29 < karasz> done
20:30 < karasz> check-system say nothing now
20:30 < mnemoc_> good
20:30 < mnemoc_> make sure you have gcc,binutils,flex and m4
20:31 < mnemoc_> and that your are not on an static system
20:31 < karasz> static system meaning what?
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20:32 < mnemoc_> you have a 'normal' .so based linux
20:32 < karasz> yep normal so libs
20:34 < CIA-9> amery * r10610 /branches/2.1/package/scientific/scilab/scilab.desc: * merged 9531 from trunk: updated scilab (3.0 -> 3.1.1)
20:38 < CIA-9> amery * r10611 /branches/2.1/package/scientific/alliance/ (alliance.desc gcc34.patch): * merged 9454 from trunk: updated alliance (5.0-20040928 -> 5.0-20050217)
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20:40 < Veki> hi
20:40 < karasz> is it ./Download -cfg $cfg -required or ./Download -required -cfg $cfg ?
20:40 < morfoh> .oO( seems that mnemoc_ wants the CIA award today :)
20:41 < mnemoc_> ./Download -cfg $cfg -required
20:41 < karasz> thought so
20:41 < Veki> karasz: -required is at the end
20:42 < mnemoc_> hi Veki
20:42 < Veki> hi mnemoc
20:42 < morfoh> hi Veki
20:42 < Veki> hi morfoh
20:42 < mnemoc_> morfoh: no honor on doing merges
20:42 < karasz> hi Veki
20:42 < Veki> hi karasz, I have made once the same mistake and leanrt that -required is at the end
20:42 < Veki> :)
20:43 < morfoh> pffff ... it's also work ... and sometimes not as easy as one can suggest
20:43 < Veki> My idea is to write doucmentation which will help people to know exactly the things whic are assumed thatthey do now but they do not
20:44 < karasz> paranoia is not paranoia enough....
20:44 < karasz> it complained about makeinfo, but not about flex
20:45 < mnemoc_> patches are welcomed :)
20:45 < Veki> it is not needed to be paranoid always, but the fact that you are not paranoid does not exclude the fact that they follow you :)
20:46 < CIA-9> amery * r10612 /branches/2.1/package/scientific/wxmaxima/wxmaxima.desc: * merged 9561 from trunk: updated wxmaxima (0.6.0 -> 0.6.1)
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20:48 < karasz> Veki: Veki ;)
20:48 < CIA-9> amery * r10613 /branches/2.1/package/security/loop-aes/loop-aes.desc: * merged 9563 from trunk: transfered loop-aes maintainance to sepp
20:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10614 /branches/2.1/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.desc: * merged 9390 from trunk: added URL and sanitized SRC in gnupg.desc
20:51 < karasz> made the modif
20:51 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/319248
20:52 < karasz> if anyone is interested
20:52 < Veki> karasz, OK
20:52 < karasz> somebody should put it in the right palce... :)
20:53 < Veki> karasz, OK,
20:53 * karasz is happy, first itsy-bitsy contrib to T2, hopes that other contribs will follow
20:54 < Veki> karasz: That is great, as much as we all contribute t2 will be stronger
20:54 < Veki> karasz: just go for it
20:56 < mnemoc_> karasz: name and mail address?
21:00 < karasz> Veki:
21:00 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/319252
21:00 < Veki> hi karasz
21:01 < mnemoc_> karasz: name and mail address?
21:01 < karasz> mnemoc_: name Nagy Karoly Gabriel email karasz@x5.ro
21:01 < karasz> why?
21:01 < mnemoc_> for the commit message
21:02 < Veki> karasz: you are HUngarian from Romania?
21:03 < CIA-9> amery * r10615 /branches/nestedtargets/Check-System:
21:03 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel :
21:03 < CIA-9> * added paranoia checks for flex and m4
21:03 < mnemoc_> karasz: next time use 'svn diff' instead of raw paste
21:03 < karasz> Veki: so and so
21:04 < karasz> mnemoc_: You shouldn't have
21:04 < karasz> and I will soon as i will get used to stuff
21:04 < Veki> I have organized recently conference and some guys from Romania have been inivited. teh next time I will invite you too so at least I can meet someone from t2
21:05 < mnemoc_> karasz: what shouldn't i?
21:06 < karasz> I dunno, it is nothing in fact i spent less than 2 minutes to do that
21:06 < karasz> and it required no programming knowledge at all
21:06 < mnemoc_> karasz: it's not nothing
21:06 < mnemoc_> karasz: and you, and not me did it
21:07 * karasz is blushing for real now :D
21:07 < mnemoc_> :)
21:10 < karasz> mnemoc_: you mean like this? http://pastebin.com/319257
21:11 < mnemoc_> yes
21:11 < karasz> ack
21:12 < mnemoc_> i'll merge it to trunk and 2.1...
21:12 < mnemoc_> more paranoia is a-good-thing-to-have(tm)
21:12 < karasz> mnemoc_: you know better
21:12 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... :)
21:12 < karasz> but please somebody look upon the explanations I give
21:13 < mnemoc_> morfoh: go to your damn party now!
21:13 < karasz> so it is not bull....
21:13 < morfoh> karasz: you're starting to contribute stuff :)
21:13 < morfoh> mnemoc_: YES, SIR!
21:13 < karasz> morfoh: imagine...
21:13 < Veki> karas: congratulations
21:14 < mnemoc_> morfoh: what about nested targets on trunk?
21:14 < karasz> ok guys let's not blow this yhing up..
21:14 < karasz> Veki: why did you ask?
21:15 < morfoh> karasz: ok ... I'll shut up. commit as much as you want.... I'll not give my 2 cents :p
21:15 < Veki> hm , you ar enot so far, I am in Serbia. I can invite you on some meeting and meet you and discuss wider use of t2
21:15 < morfoh> mnemoc_: what do you mean ?
21:15 < karasz> perhaps...
21:15 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I've not tested it on trunk so far
21:15 < karasz> morfoh: your 2cents are allways good in my shop :D
21:16 < morfoh> karasz: :D
21:16 < Veki> karasz, this can be good idea, the futur eof that may be t2conf meeting
21:16 < mnemoc_> morfoh: have you tested it somewhere? :)
21:16 < morfoh> mnemoc_: yes ... on 2.1
21:16 < karasz> Veki: hmmm
21:16 < mnemoc_> morfoh: works? problems? interfirence?
21:17 < Veki> karasz: yes, hmmmmm, this can be good thing
21:17 < morfoh> mnemoc_: as I told you yesterday. I had problems on syne, but on embedded it works
21:17 < morfoh> mnemoc_: but I couldn't examine the problem yet ... and I guess you know why ;)
21:17 < mnemoc_> morfoh: :)
21:18 < mnemoc_> morfoh: i'll merge to trunk :p
21:18 < morfoh> mnemoc_: do it :p
21:18 < morfoh> I'll check that tomorrow
21:18 < karasz> Veki: i agree
21:18 < morfoh> mnemoc_: now I have the order from my "non chief" to go to a damn party with a lot of nice women :)
21:19 < mnemoc_> :)
21:19 < mnemoc_> morfoh: and you have to enjoy it
21:19 < karasz> but conferencing is one thing and getting exposure is another
21:19 < morfoh> mnemoc_: of course ;)
21:19 < mnemoc_> good
21:20 < Veki> Veki: morfoh , I thought you are already there, hm, upload yourself to the part and enjoy it
21:20 < karasz> i think T2 needs exposure
21:20 < Veki> yes, it does
21:20 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I instructed the "rat" to watch #t2 and sending ping of death's if somebody behaves bad ... so keep cool guys :)
21:21 < Veki> morfoh: good :)
21:21 < mnemoc_> :)
21:23 < karasz> morfoh:
21:23 < morfoh> karasz: ?
21:24 < karasz> i discovered something
21:24 < Veki> morfoh: you are not drinking beer at the party ????
21:24 < Veki> karasz: what you have discovered
21:24 < karasz> but i am not sure
21:24 < Veki> OK, what
21:24 < karasz> paranoia does not check for patch
21:25 < mnemoc_> give me a diff :)
21:25 < karasz> it should shouldn't it?
21:25 < karasz> k
21:25 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/319259
21:26 < karasz> but now i have a question
21:26 < karasz> if i discover smthing else
21:26 < karasz> how can i treat it?
21:26 < karasz> svn diff is with all the modifs i made
21:27 < karasz> now it spits out m4, makeinfo and flex
21:27 < mnemoc_> you have to send patchs with the complete changeset, not just drops :)
21:27 < karasz> if i find smthing else what should I do?
21:27 < karasz> so svn diff is ok?
21:28 < mnemoc_> yes
21:28 < CIA-9> amery * r10616 /trunk/scripts/Check-System: * merged 10615 from nestedtarget: added paranoia checks for flex and m4
21:28 < morfoh> Veki: how can you think that I'll not drinking a beer at ther party ? ;)
21:29 < Veki> morfoh: I thought that your party has already started. I am going now in the shop around corner to buy beer so we will drink together :)
21:31 < morfoh> Veki: good ;) ... btw, my 2nd. middle name is beer .... cheers guys ... cu later ;)
21:31 < mnemoc_> cu
21:31 < CIA-9> amery * r10617 /trunk/scripts/Check-System:
21:31 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel :
21:31 < CIA-9> * added paranoia checks for patch
21:31 < mnemoc_> have fun
21:32 < morfoh> mnemoc_: YES SIR !!!
21:32 < Veki> OK, great, good name, have fun and nejoy your freinds, best wishes to all of them
21:32 < mnemoc_> :)
21:32 < morfoh> thanks :)
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21:50 < Veki> Ragnar: are you somewhere around?
21:51 < _Ragnar_> kinda
21:51 < _Ragnar_> but about to head out
21:52 < Veki> hm, OK, I just wanted to say that I am willing to learn to add new package. OK, I will adjust to your dynamics
21:52 < _Ragnar_> ok :)
21:52 < Veki> I will be whole night on-line so when you think is appropriate today or tomorrow just pick me up
21:52 < _Ragnar_> okay :)
21:53 < _Ragnar_> in an hour or so I should be back
21:53 < Veki> OK, great, I will be on line, i will in the meantime download packages from www.salemradiolabs.com
21:58 < CIA-9> amery * r10618 /branches/2.1/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * merged 9430,9779,9998 from trunk: * updated clamav (0.83 -> 0.86.1)
22:02 < karasz> mnemoc_: i got you.. :)
22:02 < karasz> upgrading ClamAV
22:03 < karasz> so here comes the question
22:03 < karasz> do you know of any antivirus system designed for gateways?
22:03 < karasz> checking http traffic?
22:04 < karasz> or any traffic for that matter?
22:04 < mnemoc_> if you want to detect a virus flying around your network, use snort
22:04 < CIA-9> amery * r10619 /branches/2.1/package/security/pidentd/ (identd.conf pidentd.conf):
22:04 < CIA-9> * merged 9458 from trunk: removed x86_64 hackk from pidentd
22:04 < CIA-9> * merged 9460 from trunk: added in.identd symlink and default config file to identd
22:05 < karasz> i want to protect a network
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22:10 < mnemoc_> but dansguardian works on top of squid, which does the cache
22:10 < karasz> that's right i don't need a cache
22:11 < karasz> just a proxy that can check sites for me
22:11 < karasz> but than again that works only for http traffic
22:11 < mnemoc_> for mails you add AV to your smtp
22:12 < mnemoc_> that's all you need
22:12 < mnemoc_> mail and web
22:12 < mnemoc_> btw, msn runs over http :p
22:12 < mnemoc_> another good friend is l7-filter
22:13 < mnemoc_> on your router, to redirect all http, not just port 80
22:15 < CIA-9> amery * r10620 /branches/2.1/package/security/ebtables/ebtables.conf: * merged 9485 from trunk: fixed ebtables to not install /etc/ethertypes outside the sandbox
22:16 < CIA-9> amery * r10621 /branches/2.1/package/shells/dash/dash.desc: * merged 9279 from trunk: updated dash (0.5.2-1 -> 0.5.2-5)
22:16 < karasz> msn runs over http?
22:17 < mnemoc_> yep
22:17 < mnemoc_> even using port 80 :)
22:17 < CIA-9> amery * r10622 /branches/2.1/package/www/links/links.desc: * merged 9190 from trunk: updated links (2.1pre16 -> 2.1pre17)
22:18 < karasz> msn?
22:18 < karasz> micros... messenger?
22:18 < mnemoc_> yep
22:18 < mnemoc_> btw, these are the servers:
22:18 < mnemoc_> http://pastebin.com/319278
22:18 < karasz> is anybody using it?
22:19 < mnemoc_> what? msn? sadly is the most used IM
22:19 < mnemoc_> and MS invest lots of resources to do it 'firewall friendly'
22:19 < karasz> kul
22:19 < karasz> i hav an answer to that
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22:23 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/319281
22:23 < mnemoc_> uhm?
22:24 < karasz> it is the first thing someone should do after installing XP
22:24 < mnemoc_> there are lot of msn clients for linux anyway :)
22:24 < karasz> maybe
22:24 < karasz> but there are not a lot of ugly-stuff for thoose
22:24 < mnemoc_> thanks for the tip, i usually remove the entire directory :p
22:24 < mnemoc_> amsn :)
22:25 < karasz> yw master mnemoc_
22:25 < mnemoc_> .oO( why is everyone calling me master these days? )o
22:25 < karasz> you should remove OE too
22:26 < karasz> thunderbird is a bless
22:26 < karasz> :D
22:29 * karasz is thinking abt creating an Install an usable Windows XP How-To :D
22:30 * karasz remembers Windows target from the other days and shuts-up
22:30 * karasz before anybody notices
22:34 < karasz> guys I must leave you now
22:34 < karasz> anyway my gf will rip my head off for being so late
22:35 < karasz> so cu on monday if my head will be in one piece.. :D
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22:50 < mnemoc_> cu karasz
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23:04 < Veki> hi, my irssi was killed, I do not know why, but I am here again
23:06 < mnemoc_> mirc boicot
23:06 < Veki> hm??? I was not doing anything bad, even I was not beside computer the last let say 30 minutes
23:10 < _Ragnar_> re
23:13 < Veki> Ragnar hi
23:13 < _Ragnar_> hey Veki ;) ok
23:13 < _Ragnar_> now I'm back
23:13 < _Ragnar_> might drop out any time tho, the wireless here is flaky
23:14 < Veki> OK, if you are ready we can proceed
23:15 < _Ragnar_> ok
23:15 < _Ragnar_> what ya wanna know?
23:16 < Veki> I would like to include packages rivendell, callcomander and soundpanel from www.salemradiolabs.com
23:16 < Veki> As far as I see they do need packages which are already presdent in generic target
23:16 < _Ragnar_> ok
23:16 < _Ragnar_> what are the requirements?
23:17 < Veki> the only prerequisite is libradio library w. I downloaded libradio library and sources of rivendell, callcommander and soundpanel
23:18 < _Ragnar_> are the packages used by anything else?
23:18 < Veki> I install file it is mentioned that just configure, make, make install is OK procedure.
23:19 < Veki> I think no, because in install file is mentioned that only X is needed
23:20 < Veki> actually, rivendell needs Mysql which is not problem, alsa supports anyway audio cards and application I suppose ask alsa for audio card and send what is needed to audio card
23:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10623 /branches/2.1/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * merged 9638 from trunk: updated fox (1.4.11 -> 1.4.16)
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23:24 < _Ragnar_> ok
23:24 < Veki> hm, before going into adding new packages I have problme when building generic target. gccbuilding aborted
23:24 < _Ragnar_> oops?
23:24 < Veki> cat /home/gcc-error
23:24 < Veki> oops
23:24 < Veki> {standard input}:32771: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
23:24 < Veki> gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
23:24 < Veki> Please submit a full bug report.
23:24 < Veki> See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
23:24 < Veki> make[1]: *** [insn-recog.o] Error 1
23:24 < Veki> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
23:24 < Veki> all automaton generation: 24.952208, output: 0.432934
23:24 < Veki> /bin/sh ../../gcc/move-if-change tmp-attrtab.c insn-attrtab.c
23:24 < Veki> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
23:24 < Veki> echo timestamp > s-attrtab
23:25 < Veki> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
23:25 < Veki> make[1]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.gcc.1122107538.10546.0/gcc-3.4.3/objdir/gcc'
23:25 < _Ragnar_> O_O
23:25 < Veki> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
23:25 < Veki> Due to previous errors, no 2-gcc.log file!
23:25 < _Ragnar_> uhm
23:25 < _Ragnar_> what gcc do you have on the host system?
23:26 < Veki> hm,it is gcc from t2-stable rc1
23:26 < _Ragnar_> O_O
23:26 < mnemoc_> uhm
23:26 < _Ragnar_> that error looks familiar tho
23:26 < _Ragnar_> have you googled it?
23:27 < mnemoc_> what arch?
23:27 < Veki> i did not put any specific optimization, if that helps
23:28 < sepp_> hello
23:28 < Veki> hello
23:28 < mnemoc_> can you publish ERROR-LOG?
23:29 < Veki> OK, I can, but is long file
23:29 < Veki> how can I publish it?
23:29 < sepp_> mnemoc_: the about r10591 the "dirty hack on configure" is not needed
23:29 < CIA-9> amery * r10624 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xlockmore/xlockmore.desc: * merged 9393,9576 from trunk: updated xlockmore (5.14.1 -> 5.18)
23:30 < sepp_> i think it was the 1st version when where they used libevent
23:30 < mnemoc_> sepp_: it's dirty because it has to use pkgprefix :)
23:30 < mnemoc_> and it's massive
23:30 < sepp_> yes i c
23:31 < sepp_> but it is not needed with new tor versions
23:31 < mnemoc_> oh
23:31 < sepp_> i deleted the silly hack on trunc
23:32 < mnemoc_> 10048 :(
23:32 < mnemoc_> damn svn merge
23:32 < mnemoc_> it doesn't remove if it's A
23:32 < mnemoc_> it just skips
23:33 < sepp_> ohh
23:34 < CIA-9> amery * r10625 /branches/2.1/package/network/tor/tor.conf: * merged missing part of 10048 from trunk: removed dirty hack on tor's configure
23:34 < sepp_> :)
23:34 < mnemoc_> thanks
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23:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10626 /branches/2.1/package/x11/fvwm/fvwm.desc: * merged 9257 from trunk: updated fvwm (2.4.16 -> 2.4.19)
23:37 < Veki> mnemoc: should I publish error log by trac?
23:37 < mnemoc> Veki: no, it's too large for that
23:37 < mnemoc> Veki: http from your box
23:37 < Veki> OK, therefore I am curious, it i slarge text
23:37 < mnemoc> gatling, publicfile or even apache is good for that
23:37 < Veki> OK, which command I have to issue
23:38 < mnemoc> ehm
23:38 < mnemoc> install one first :)
23:38 < mnemoc> gatling is on trunk
23:38 < mnemoc> remember -deps=none
23:39 < Veki> OK, i will first Emerge gatling and proceed OK?
23:40 < mnemoc> ok
23:40 < CIA-9> amery * r10627 /branches/2.1/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.desc: * merged 9552 from trunk: updated fluxbox (0.9.12 -> 0.9.13)
23:40 < Veki> I will do that now
23:40 < mnemoc> you may also need to open your ipfiltering accordingly
23:41 < Veki> ok, is the real nime of package gatling?
23:41 < CIA-9> amery * r10628 /branches/2.1/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * merged 9536 from trunk: updated afterstep (2.1.0 -> 2.1.1)
23:42 < mnemoc> nime?
23:42 < Veki> name
23:42 < mnemoc> w8
23:42 < mnemoc> # echo package/*/gatl*
23:42 < mnemoc> package/network/gatling
23:42 < mnemoc> on _trunk_, not 2.1
23:43 < mnemoc> gatling is on trunk
23:43 < Veki> OK
23:43 < mnemoc> uhm, it needs libowfat
23:43 < Veki> So, I have firstly to do svn cp .usr...trunk /usr/src/t2-stable OK?
23:44 < mnemoc> if you want to be sure nothing else from trunk leak into your box, yes
23:44 < Veki> I am emerging libowfat right now
23:45 < CIA-9> amery * r10629 /branches/2.1/package/x11/rxvt/rxvt.desc: * merged 9444 from trunk: updated rxvt (2.7.9 -> 2.7.10)
23:46 < CIA-9> amery * r10630 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xosview/xosview.desc: * merged 9371 from trunk: updated xosview (1.8.1 -> 1.8.2)
23:47 < CIA-9> amery * r10631 /branches/2.1/package/x11/gentoo/gentoo.desc: * merged 9429 from trunk: updated gentoo (0.11.54 -> 0.11.55)
23:48 < CIA-9> amery * r10632 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xdaliclock/xdaliclock.desc: * merged 9235 from trunk: updated xdaliclock (2.19 -> 2.20)
23:51 < Veki> mnemoc: started to emegr gatling , libowfat i sdone
23:51 < Veki> emegre=emerge
23:52 < CIA-9> amery * r10633 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xplanet/xplanet.desc: * merged 9500 from trunk: updated xplanet (1.0.1 -> 1.1.2)
23:54 < CIA-9> amery * r10634 /branches/2.1/package/x11/idesk/idesk.desc: * merged 9256,9988 from trunk: updated idesk (0.7.1 -> 0.7.3)
23:55 < Veki> Ragnar: are you around?
23:55 < _Ragnar_> yea
23:55 < Veki> OK, while packages for publishing on http are building , may we continue our discussion?
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23:57 < CIA-9> amery * r10635 /branches/2.1/package/x11/linuxwacom/linuxwacom.desc: * merged 9449 from trunk: updated linuxwacom (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
23:59 < CIA-9> amery * r10636 /branches/2.1/package/x11-ng/libpixman/libpixman.desc: * merged 9394 from trunk: updated libpixman (0.1.4 -> 0.1.5)
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