--- Log opened Wed Aug 10 00:00:00 2005 00:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll not kill it ... just shuting down :p 00:01 < mnemoc> oh, boring :( 00:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know. You're server kill master #1 :) 00:01 < mnemoc> :) 00:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: but the mnemosyne running on it is very hard to kill :) 00:02 < mnemoc> :) 00:03 < morfoh> 5 00:03 < mnemoc> mnemosyne needs grsec 00:03 < morfoh> 4 00:03 < morfoh> 3 00:03 < morfoh> 2 00:03 < morfoh> 1 00:03 < morfoh> # shutdown -h now 00:03 < mnemoc> init 6 ;) 00:03 < morfoh> ok ... the next time :) 00:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! didn't I commited my grsec on mnemosyne yet ? 00:04 < morfoh> shame on me 00:04 < morfoh> :p 00:18 < mnemoc> i need to get time to rewrite mnemosyne.in in perl 00:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: couldn't we avoid perl ? 00:19 < mnemoc> i doubt 00:19 < morfoh> I know it's suites quite well 00:19 < morfoh> but I don't like it 00:20 < morfoh> hmmm ... but perhaps I've to accept it 00:20 < mnemoc> current bash/sed/cut approach is too slow 00:20 < morfoh> ack 00:20 < morfoh> and python ? 00:20 < mnemoc> and real node based dependency handlying is imposible 00:20 < morfoh> I'd like to contribute more things regarding that issue 00:21 < morfoh> but if we're using perl ... 00:21 < mnemoc> mnemosyne.in is even more obscure that most perl script :) 00:22 < mnemoc> i tend to right obscure bash scripts :( 00:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... I think it's as obscure as the mind behind it :p 00:22 * morfoh hides 00:23 < mnemoc> same do i :) 00:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... let's use perl ... I'll take to make up my mind perl ready :) 00:23 < sepp> uhm why is fox 1.5 aka unstable in trunk? it breaks rezound - the only app that uses fox 00:24 < mnemoc> svn blame ? 00:24 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_ may know 00:24 < _Ragnar_> I didn't up to 1.5 00:24 < morfoh> oh! greetuings from "curry wurst city" to "nudossi city" :) 00:25 < sepp> morfoh: haha :) 00:25 < _Ragnar_> msluis did it 00:26 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: haha ... this oranje guy should try to blame me again :) 00:26 < _Ragnar_> o_o 00:26 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: just joking of course 00:26 < morfoh> :) 00:26 < _Ragnar_> ;D 00:26 < mnemoc> :) 00:27 < sepp> ok i'll try latest stable and rezound 00:27 < _Ragnar_> fox unstable is generally not a good idea 00:27 < _Ragnar_> they change interfaces pretty often in unstable 00:28 < mnemoc> if you revert please add a note on commit message _and_ .desc file 00:28 < _Ragnar_> I'll wait and see if sepp has success with stable 00:31 < sepp> i try 1.4.17 last one in trunk (before 1.5.x) was 1.4.16 00:32 < mnemoc> ack 00:36 < morfoh> good night folss 00:36 < morfoh> folks 00:36 < mnemoc> :) 00:36 < sepp> sleep well morfoh :) 00:37 < morfoh> sepp: thanks "nudossi master" :) 00:37 < sepp> haha 00:37 < morfoh> hehe 00:37 < morfoh> hoho :) 00:37 < morfoh> cu tomorrow .) 00:37 -!- morfoh [N=jeru@p54BEEBB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 00:46 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.15.118] has joined #t2 00:46 < keinek> hi 00:51 < sepp> hmm my notebook is still building fox, i have to sleep now 00:51 < sepp> good night all 00:51 < _Ragnar_> nini 00:51 < _Ragnar_> highlight me or privmsg me with the result plz 00:52 < sepp> ok 01:00 -!- sparc-kly [n=G4@64.237.251.36] has joined #t2 01:02 < sparc-kly> keinek 01:02 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly 01:03 < sparc-kly> hi mnemoc 01:09 < _Ragnar_> is trac down? 01:10 < mnemoc> yes 01:10 < mnemoc> 1h 01:10 < mnemoc> changes on datacenter 01:41 < shingo--> I never see it before. "configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)", there's many others messages like this. who known something about this? 01:43 < mnemoc> FAILLOG_ENAB (boolean) If yes then login failures will be accumulated in /var/log/faillog in a faillog(8) format. 01:59 < shingo--> ok, but after update it's occurs. should I put here? all messages? 01:59 < shingo--> the last version of shadow don't occurs this. 02:02 < mnemoc> i haven't seen that problem before 02:02 < mnemoc> what google say about that? 02:08 < shingo--> I think, the /etc/login.defs was obsolete, when I "clear" this file the "problem" don't occurs. 02:10 < mnemoc> shingo--: add an issue on trac about that please 02:11 < shingo--> please wait, I'm trying get more information about that. I think it's not really a bug. I think is not time for that yet. 02:14 < mnemoc> ok 03:06 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly 03:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sparc-kly 03:22 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly 03:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sparc-kly 03:29 -!- mtr_ [N=Michael@p54AFB945.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:41 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly 03:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sparc-kly 03:45 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly 03:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sparc-kly 04:32 -!- sparc-kly [n=G4@64.237.251.36] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 04:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10911 /trunk/package/zope/plone/plone.desc: * updated plone (2.1-rc1 -> 2.1-rc2) 04:36 < CIA-9> amery * r10912 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * copied mnemosyne.in into mnemosyne.pl, functions defined but bash code commented :) 04:37 < CIA-9> amery * r10913 /trunk/package/zope/linguaplone/linguaplone.desc: * updated linguaplone (0.7 -> 0.7.2) 04:38 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.196.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 04:53 -!- sepp [N=sepp@p213.54.195.77.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:00 < CIA-9> amery * r10914 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * added code to initialy call mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_render() 05:12 -!- rxr_ [i=rene@e178150191.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 05:12 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 05:12 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 05:12 [Users #t2] 05:12 [@vilkacis ] [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ sepp_ ] 05:12 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek] [ rxr ] [ shingo--] 05:12 [ _Lewelly1] [ dsoul ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_] [ valentin] 05:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 05:12 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:12 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 05:12 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 05:20 -!- rxr [I=rene@e178163088.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:21 -!- shingo-- [N=shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:24 -!- CIA-9 [N=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 05:30 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- shingo-- [n=shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has joined #t2 05:47 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 05:52 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 06:18 < shingo--> let me try to say by another way, if i'm not put this "that mount -n -a -t proc || error=$?" in /etc/init.d/system, my system enter with a lot of error messages. 06:19 < shingo--> I'll wrote this after in trac. 06:20 < mnemoc> shingo--: what is on your /etc/fstab ? 06:22 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 06:28 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 07:32 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.15.118] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:56 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE495.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 07:56 < morfoh> moin 07:57 < morfoh> trac is up again 07:58 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 07:58 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :) 07:58 < morfoh> still awake ? 07:59 < mnemoc> yep 08:00 < mnemoc> trying to remember perl :) 08:00 < morfoh> oh! 08:01 < morfoh> then I understand that you're still awake, because if you go sleep you'll get a nightmare :) 08:01 < mnemoc> :) 08:01 < morfoh> mnemoc: foxy this mnemoc is 08:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: svn log -r 10914:10915 :D 08:07 < mnemoc> :) 08:18 < _Ragnar_> hmm anyone here got a statically linked grub for me?:) 08:19 < mnemoc> uhm 08:19 < mnemoc> not me :) 08:30 < morfoh> moin Ragnar 08:30 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: let me see if I got a static grub .... one moment 08:30 < _Ragnar_> moin moin:) 08:31 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: yo yo ... denn man tau :) 08:31 < _Ragnar_> naja wohl mehr nacht hier :) 08:32 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: dachte ich mir schon ;) 08:32 < _Ragnar_> ;D 08:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you translated our small "conversation" yet ? :p 08:35 < mnemoc> nah.... i'm looking at perl code :) 08:35 < mnemoc> and /leo is not working :( 08:36 < _Ragnar_> did you find a grub? 08:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: http://dict.leo.org/ ? 08:38 < mnemoc> i have it as one of the search engines on firefox :) 08:39 < mnemoc> that search field on firefox's upper/left is very useful 08:40 < mnemoc> i have google, leo, dictionary.com, drae (official spanish dictionary) and wikipedia 08:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: damn ... you're very well prepared :) 08:41 < mnemoc> :) 08:41 < _Ragnar_> :D 08:41 < mnemoc> i guess i'll remove ebay, amazon and yahoo from there on mnemosyne :) 08:42 * _Ragnar_ nudge morfoh 08:44 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: hey what's up ... I'll will call my big brother if you'll try that again 08:44 < mnemoc> big brother of grandpa'? 08:44 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: his name is Otto 08:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... :) 08:45 < mnemoc> :( 08:45 < mnemoc> :) 08:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: there are even older people than me 08:45 < mnemoc> really? 08:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: and my brother Otto is a very powerful politician here ... 08:46 < mnemoc> nepotism doesn't work there? 08:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: he doesn't like crappy people from other countries ... especially not the poor ones ... so take care 08:47 < mnemoc> very powerful politicians don't have poor brothers :) 08:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: and he likes to fight against bad te**o*ists 08:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: and opus dei is his favourite organization 08:48 < mnemoc> :) 08:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: well not to fight against 08:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: so believe me ... take care ... he's watching us 08:49 * mnemoc hides silently 08:49 * morfoh watches back 08:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: you can hide whereever you want ... he will crush your cuhones 08:51 < morfoh> and eats them for lunch :p 08:52 * morfoh hides before brother Otto 08:52 < mnemoc> o.o 08:54 < _Ragnar_> ;p 08:55 < _Ragnar_> well ttyl then 09:03 < _Ragnar_> nini folks 09:09 < mnemoc> neenee _Ragnar_ 09:26 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 09:30 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 09:52 < rxr_> re 09:53 -!- You're now known as rxr 09:53 < mnemoc> wb rxr 09:54 < morfoh> moin rxr 09:55 < morfoh> rxr: can I send the sponsoring request out or do you have sth. what I should change ? 09:55 < morfoh> rxr: I wanted to send it out today, because I'll be away from thursday till tuesday 09:56 < morfoh> ok cu in about 1h 09:56 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE495.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 10:11 < rxr> hey cool - one bit for my crappy ink jet printer and CRT - so I get at least 2 EUR ;-) 10:12 < mnemoc> o.o 10:12 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm happy when I'm rid of that trash ... 10:12 < mnemoc> :) 10:12 < rxr> in germany I would have (in theory) even pay for the disposal or eletric trash ... 10:13 < mnemoc> o_O 10:13 < rxr> so +2EUR are better than -60EUR 10:13 < mnemoc> :) 10:15 < rxr> the -60 is estimated - no idea how expensive the disposal of the 21" CRT would be ... 10:16 < mnemoc> :) 10:16 < mnemoc> expensive anyway 10:18 < rxr> ack 10:23 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9 10:23 < valentin> moin 10:23 < valentin> *yawn* 10:23 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9 10:26 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9 10:27 -!- CIA-3 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 10:29 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I think the perl fix from sunday is important 10:29 < CIA-3> amery * r10919 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * began porting on mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_render_option into perl. 10:30 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, i have it locally merged, i'll commit tomorrow 10:30 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, why is that missing include=/usr/include/db3 my fault? 10:31 < CIA-3> rene * r10920 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomesu/ (. gnomesu.cache gnomesu.desc): * added gnomesu (0.3.1) 10:32 < rxr> mnemoc: no - it is not - do you mean because I first wrote you broke it? 10:32 < rxr> I first thought it might be your bdb splitting - I later on wrote that you haven't been it but it must have been a perl change 10:32 < mnemoc> :) 10:33 < rxr> adding this osx conditional to the makefile.pl overwriting our include injectino 10:45 < mnemoc> i'll commit in some hours, after a quick nap.... cu :) 10:45 < rxr> cu 10:45 < rxr> btw. I fwd'ed the news to golem - let's see if they pick up that news again 10:57 < shingo--> moin. 10:58 < shingo--> mnemoc, i had ask me for my /etc/fstab. http://pastebin.com/333551 10:58 < shingo--> sorry, you had. :) 11:10 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 11:10 < morfoh> re hi 11:13 -!- shingo-- [n=shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 11:13 -!- shingo-- [n=shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has joined #t2 11:39 < rxr> http://www.betanews.com/article/AntiMS_Group_Aims_to_Block_Vista/1123614377 11:48 < valentin> cool 11:48 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.205.138.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 11:48 < rxr> haha: 11:48 < rxr> Not enough random bytes available. Please do some other work to give 11:48 < rxr> the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 284 more bytes) 11:49 < rxr> valentin: note that that seems to be a republican politican ... 11:49 < rxr> not some whatsoever freak but normally assumed to be conservative 11:49 < valentin> yep 11:50 < morfoh> moin vel 11:50 < morfoh> moin valentin + 11:50 < valentin> moin morfoh 11:51 < morfoh> rxr: I don't want to annoy you, but did you had time for the text ? 11:52 < rxr> thanks for the reminder 11:52 < morfoh> :) 11:52 < rxr> I reread over it in some seconds 11:52 < morfoh> rxr: thanks :) 11:54 < morfoh> rxr: it would be nice, if we find some more points what we can offer a sponsor 11:55 < morfoh> or if you have ideas regarding sponsoring areas 12:00 < rxr> well - the big picture is fine so far 12:00 < morfoh> good :) 12:01 < rxr> I do not really have time for the details since I'm in Switzerland this week as you might have read ... thus - well - just reread it or so and send it - let's see what repsonse we might get 12:02 < morfoh> ok 12:02 < morfoh> rxr: and the potential sponsoring areas ? 12:03 < morfoh> any other ideas than traffic, collocation, servers, and development hardware ? 12:03 < rxr> maybe Messe Standfl?? 12:03 < rxr> che - 12:03 < morfoh> ok 12:03 < morfoh> and the other way around ? what we can offer a sponsor? 12:04 < rxr> maybe more points like - specialized embedded / security solutions - contact to highly si 12:04 < rxr> killed people for custom application development or whatsoever 12:05 < morfoh> rxr: so I'll reread the text now if you've not detected some crap and send it out 12:06 < morfoh> rxr: the only problem I see is that we cannont offer a whole development for free I think 12:06 < rxr> of course not 12:06 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.196.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:06 < rxr> that is why I wrote "contact" ,-) 12:06 < morfoh> ;) 12:06 < morfoh> foxy 12:07 < morfoh> rxr: so the best in that case would be if they have sth. like an own development department to support this group in a timely fashion or so 12:08 < morfoh> anyway ... let's send it out and see what will come out of it 12:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.205.138.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:19 < rxr> morfoh: ack 12:19 < rxr> ok - this itny 12:20 < rxr> tiny box can encrypt 1MB/s with a 1024bit key and gnupg - that is enough for me ... 12:20 < morfoh> :) 12:21 < rxr> s/me/the clients/ 12:37 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF877F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:37 < morfoh> moin mtr 12:38 < mtr> moin morfoh 12:38 < mtr> hi * 13:15 -!- ideal [n=idealm_@222.64.55.222] has joined #t2 13:24 < morfoh> rxr: mail is out 13:58 < rxr> cc'ed to me ? 13:59 < morfoh> rxr: nope, but I can send it to you too. moment please 14:03 < morfoh> rxr: mail is out 14:04 < morfoh> rxr: kannst du vielleicht noch auf der Website die News bzgl. der rc2 release aktualisieren ? 14:04 < morfoh> oops 14:04 < morfoh> wasn't a query 14:04 < morfoh> sorry for writing german 14:05 < morfoh> ok I'll move now 14:05 < morfoh> cu later 14:05 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:22 < CIA-3> rene * r10922 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/ (hotplud.d/ hotplug.d/): * fixed grave typo in archivista rootfs overlay (hotplud.d -> hotplug.d) 14:33 -!- sparc-kly [n=G4@64.237.251.36] has joined #t2 15:43 < rxr> oeh 10 EUR for the damn CRT 15:43 < rxr> did not expected that /much/ 15:48 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-3 15:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-3 16:38 < CIA-3> rene * r10923 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug: 16:38 < CIA-3> * reworked most parts of target/archivista/.../90-backup.hotplug, 16:38 < CIA-3> including authentication and preparation of the next junk of 16:38 < CIA-3> automagic to be added soon 16:38 < rxr> s/junk/chunk/ ,-) 16:59 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.254.10.31] has joined #t2 16:59 < keinek_> hi 17:23 < keinek_> www.mspacman.com.ar :P 17:23 < keinek_> for xmame.x11 17:35 -!- sparc-kly [n=G4@64.237.251.36] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:38 < mnemoc> moin 17:38 < CIA-3> rene * r10924 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug: * the next chunk of work in target/archivista/.../90-backup.hotplug 17:38 < mnemoc> rxr: 10 is lots more than 2 :) 17:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 17:41 < mnemoc> rxr: and for the printer? 17:43 < rxr> 3,xx I think ,-) 17:44 < mnemoc> :) 17:50 < rxr> where does this mt for tape access usually come from ? 17:52 < mnemoc> # grep '/mt$' build/ref-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/* 17:52 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/digikam:digikam: opt/kde3/share/locale/mt 17:52 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/kdebase:kdebase: opt/kde3/share/locale/l10n/mt 17:52 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/xorg:xorg: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/mt 17:52 < mnemoc> build/ref-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/xorg:xorg: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/mt 17:52 < mnemoc> none useful i guess 17:53 < rxr> I have the same 17:54 < rxr> openldap stalls infinitly on PPC on both trunk and 2.1 ... 17:54 < rxr> while checking for threaded bdb I think 17:54 < rxr> checking for db.h... yes 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB link (default)... no 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB link (-ldb43)... no 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB link (-ldb-43)... no 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB link (-ldb-4.3)... yes 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB version match... yes 17:54 < rxr> checking for Berkeley DB thread support... 17:55 < mnemoc> config.log ? 17:55 < mnemoc> cmd_wrapper.log ? 17:55 < rxr> 27197 pts/0 T 0:00 ./conftest 17:55 < rxr> ^- runs since then ... 17:55 < rxr> configure:20019: checking for Berkeley DB thread support 17:55 < rxr> configure:20101: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -ldb-4.3 -pthread -lresolv 1>&5 17:56 < mnemoc> uhm 17:56 < rxr> mnemoc: ignore - I track - sonner than later 17:56 < mnemoc> GCC_WRAPPER ? 17:56 < rxr> since it stalls susan's and my PPC builds - one 2.1 and the other PPC@Live ... 17:56 < mnemoc> :( 17:56 < rxr> mnemoc: no - the conftest binary runs ... 17:56 < rxr> since then ... 17:58 < rxr> found mt-st in drock 17:58 * rxr porting .. 17:58 < rxr> I think this is the drock liost packages porting week 17:59 < rxr> lost of cours 17:59 < rxr> e 18:00 < mnemoc> drock still alive? 18:00 -!- veki [n=veki@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 18:01 < rxr> as source to rip stuff out in ~rene/develop/old/ATTIC/rock/... , yes 18:01 < mnemoc> :) 18:02 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECC6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:03 < morfoh> re hi 18:04 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 18:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: dansguardian-av patch still missing 18:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: quagga's .init also 18:04 < morfoh> hola seņor :) 18:04 * morfoh hides 18:04 < morfoh> cu later 18:04 < mnemoc> :( 18:04 < morfoh> :( 18:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I'll take a look 18:05 < mnemoc> :) 18:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: can't see you crying 18:05 < mnemoc> :( <--- sad vs. :'( <--- crying 18:05 < rxr> ah - and mt-st in T2 will immediatly be newer than the debian package *g* 18:06 < mnemoc> :D 18:06 < morfoh> mnemoc is a pedant 18:07 < mnemoc> :'( 18:08 < morfoh> :(bbl 18:16 -!- veki [n=veki@217.24.19.40] has quit ["leaving"] 18:16 < CIA-3> rene * r10925 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/no-mt-man.patch: * fixed cpio to not install a stray mt manual page 18:16 -!- veki [n=veki@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 18:16 < mnemoc> hi veki 18:17 < CIA-3> rene * r10926 /trunk/package/base/mt-st/ (. mt-st.cache mt-st.desc): * added mt-st (0.9) - port from dRock-1.6.1-rc2 18:18 < CIA-3> amery * r10927 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/gnue-forms.desc: * updated gnue-forms (0.5.11.99-beta2 -> 0.5.11.99-pre1) 18:18 < CIA-3> amery * r10928 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-appserver/gnue-appserver.desc: * updated gnue-appserver (0.4.1.99-beta1 -> 0.4.1.99-pre1) 18:19 < CIA-3> amery * r10929 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-common/gnue-common.desc: * updated gnue-common (0.5.99-beta1 -> 0.5.99-pre1) 18:19 < veki> hi 18:19 < veki> mnemoc :) 18:20 < CIA-3> amery * r10930 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-navigator/gnue-navigator.desc: * updated gnue-navigator (0.0.8.99-beta1 -> 0.0.8.99-pre1) 18:20 < CIA-3> amery * r10931 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-reports/gnue-reports.desc: * updated gnue-reports (0.1.7.99-beta2 -> 0.1.7.99-pre1) 18:21 < CIA-3> amery * r10932 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-designer/gnue-designer.desc: * updated gnue-designer (0.5.6.99-beta1 -> 0.5.6.99-pre1) 18:23 < CIA-3> rene * r10933 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/cpio.conf: 18:23 < CIA-3> * fixed cpio.conf to use a correct bindir instead of moving the 18:23 < CIA-3> installed binary 18:27 < rxr> mnemoc: can you check if this is still actual? 18:28 < rxr> package/archiver/cpio/no_rmt.patch 18:28 < mnemoc> uhm? 18:28 < mnemoc> please rephrase :) 18:31 < veki> mnemoc: I have installed t2 again, when I want to do svn up it says skipped '.' 18:31 < veki> I suppose i have to do svn co.. 18:31 < veki> what is link for t2-stable for svn co 18:31 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 18:33 < rxr> re 18:34 < mnemoc> rxr: do you know something cheaper that 'svn diff -r | lsdiff' to get the list of changed files ? 18:37 < rxr> mnemoc: you seem to be the author of that patch and tar only installs it invisible for the user in /usr/libexec 18:37 < rxr> so I mean - do we still want to skip this binary you patch away from cpio ? 18:37 < rxr> or do we these days like to have it 18:37 < rxr> (though I do not know who might need it -) 18:38 < mnemoc> oh, now i remember 18:38 < mnemoc> rpm includes rmt 18:38 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.254.10.31] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:39 < mnemoc> and we 'prefered' that one over cpio's 18:39 < mnemoc> let me confirm 18:39 < mnemoc> nope, 'dump' and 'tar' 18:39 < rxr> btw. dump and tar ? 18:40 < mnemoc> the first on /usr/sbin and the second on libexec 18:40 < rxr> /btw/d 18:40 < mnemoc> that was a hack to avoid the 'share' 18:40 < rxr> my tar only has usr/libexec/rmt 18:40 < mnemoc> the first on /usr/sbin and the second on libexec 18:44 < rxr> ok - DLT tape backup functual - puh 18:44 < rxr> with the first you mean cpio ? 18:44 < mnemoc> nope 18:44 < mnemoc> dump 18:44 < mnemoc> i don't remember which makes conflict with cpio, but one did :( 18:45 < mnemoc> doesn't svn log say something about? 18:45 < rxr> I do not see that conflict anymore - thus I asked 18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: the patch says tar ... 18:46 < mnemoc> so, where is cpio installing rmt now? 18:46 < rxr> I have not test-compiled it ... 18:46 < rxr> the log also says tar 18:46 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.216.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:47 < sepp> hi 18:47 < mnemoc> hi sepp 18:47 < sepp> hi mnemoc 18:49 < rxr> ok - it installs into libexec as welll 18:49 < rxr> sorry to bother you 18:49 < mnemoc> nah... don't worry :) 18:50 < CIA-3> rene * r10934 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel: * added mt-st to the archivista package selection 18:51 < rxr> live cd with DLT backup support ,-) 18:51 < rxr> .o(as well as exporting encrypted data and such ...) 18:52 < rxr> btw - I have the blender update scheduled 18:54 < mnemoc> :D 18:56 < morfoh> re hi 18:56 < morfoh> now the flat is complete ... last person moved in 18:56 < CIA-3> rene * r10935 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit/gedit.desc: * updated gedit (2.10.4 -> 2.10.5) 18:57 < mnemoc> morfoh: :) 18:57 < rxr> person ? 18:57 < mnemoc> rxr: new gnome 2.10? 18:57 < rxr> mnemoc: not that I can see 18:58 < morfoh> rxr: I think the mail was ok. 18:59 < morfoh> rxr: I phoned with him after that and he will ask within the bcix network for sponsoring partners 18:59 < morfoh> the next day 19:00 -!- ideal [n=idealm_@222.64.55.222] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:04 < CIA-3> sebastian * r10936 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: 19:04 < CIA-3> * downgraded fox (1.5.6 -> 1.4.17) - latest stable release 19:04 < CIA-3> 1.5 is unstable and breaks rezound 19:07 < CIA-3> rene * r10937 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system: * readded swap activation to the archivista init.d/system overlay 19:09 < rxr> we need an equivalent : http://www.m0n0.ch/ 19:10 < mnemoc> *click* 19:10 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll extend mnemosyne into mnemosyne-frontier soon 19:11 < rxr> and then there is that: http://www.pfsense.com/ 19:11 < rxr> the ISP of this company has just installed^Wsetup the later here 19:11 < mnemoc> morfoh: what do you think of mnemosyne with grsec enabled always? (desktop,embedded and servers) 19:12 < rxr> my ibook fan is again going crazzy - damn thing 19:12 < mnemoc> rxr: i want to get that marked using targets inherenced from mnemosyne 19:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: no! I think it makes not big sense for desktop 19:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: but for servers ... let's use it as an option first 19:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll commit it 19:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: and gradm builds against dietlibc too 19:14 < morfoh> ;) 19:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: so no prob for using it on embedded 19:15 < morfoh> rxr: I guess sth. similar like m0n0 wall shouldn't be problematic with t2 :) 19:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: mnemosyne-desktop != desktop ... but ok 19:16 < rxr> nope - we only need to have it - polished and ready and such 19:16 < mnemoc> we need to release t2-powered distributions soon (with their own versioning) 19:18 < mnemoc> an http://powered.t2-project.org/$target forge could be nice 19:21 < rxr> why not $target.t2-project.org ? 19:21 < rxr> or anyway cool - hip - PR names with www.$target.com or whatsoever 19:21 * rxr soon off 19:23 < mnemoc> rxr: $target.t2-powered.com :D 19:26 < rxr> http://www.siox.org/videos/siox-in-gimp.mpg 19:28 < mnemoc> :) 19:28 < _Ragnar_> hmmm how do I install grub on a disk image I have as a file on HD? 19:30 < rxr> cat stage1 stage2 > /dev/fdX 19:30 < rxr> ah - disk - not as in floppy disk? 19:30 * rxr out of office - cu tomorrow ,-) 19:30 < mnemoc> cu rxr :) 19:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: keinek wrote a mini howto some weeks ago 19:31 < _Ragnar_> no floppy 19:31 < _Ragnar_> cf card image ;) 19:31 < mnemoc> loop device? 19:32 < _Ragnar_> yea 19:32 < _Ragnar_> well I got the filesys on it already 19:32 < CIA-3> rene * r10938 /trunk/package/multimedia/blender/blender.desc: * updated blender (2.37 -> 2.37a) 19:32 < _Ragnar_> and part. table 19:34 < _Ragnar_> I do: 19:34 < _Ragnar_> (in grub) 19:34 < _Ragnar_> grub> device (hd0) /home/defk0n/image 19:34 < _Ragnar_> grub> root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83 19:34 < _Ragnar_> grub> setup (hd0) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/boot/grub/reiserfs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /boot/grub/reiserfs_stage1_5 (hd0)"... 19 sectors are embedded. 19:34 < _Ragnar_> succeeded Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+19 p (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed 19:34 < _Ragnar_> Error 22: No such partition 19:46 < _Ragnar_> any idea? O_O 19:46 < mnemoc> i use lilo :) 19:47 < _Ragnar_> I doubt that works much better :) 19:47 < mnemoc> :) 19:47 < mnemoc> lilo is not smart, that is very useful in some cases 19:48 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 19:48 < _Ragnar_> I don't get how it can tell me (hd0,0) is reiserfs, but then says it can't find it next step 19:52 < _Ragnar_> duh *bangs head on table) 19:52 < _Ragnar_> ok forget it, i had an old grub version on that server 19:54 < mnemoc> :) 20:12 < CIA-3> amery * r10939 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: 20:12 < CIA-3> * fixed typo on mnemosyne.pl #! 20:12 < CIA-3> * implemented mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_parser 20:12 < CIA-3> * implementation of switches on mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_render_option started 20:30 -!- minto [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:30 < minto> moin moin 20:31 < _Ragnar_> moin:) 20:31 < mnemoc> moin noiseless 20:32 < minto> yepp, I don't make a sound :D Just typing. 20:34 < mnemoc> i have been hit for typing on bed :) 20:35 < minto> hehe. How long have you been married? 20:35 < mnemoc> 5 years :) 20:35 < minto> Then you should now bed is for something else ;-) 20:35 < mnemoc> yep 20:36 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.231.154.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:37 < minto> mnemoc: When building an updated courier-authlib I get 20:37 < minto> gcc: /usr/lib/libshadow.so: No such file or directory 20:37 < minto> Which is correct since libshadaw is in /lib. How can I correct this? 20:38 < minto> Should I use GCC_WRAPPER and and /lib (pkgprefix libdir shadow)? 20:39 < mnemoc> i guess path is hardcoded on Makefile 20:42 < minto> Makefile has: SHADOWLIBS = -lshadow 20:43 < minto> hmm, for postgresl it has: PGSQL_LIBS = -L/opt/postgresql/lib -lpq 20:44 < minto> seems like -L is forgotten in case of shadow. 20:44 < mnemoc> but ld shall find libshadow.so at /lib if -lshadow 20:44 < mnemoc> /lib is a normal location 20:44 < sepp_> minto: have you updated tcl/tk local and only commited the tk update? 20:45 < minto> sepp_: No only tk got updated 20:45 < sepp_> uhm that failed here 20:45 < sepp_> hmm 20:46 < minto> Hmm, I will try building it again 20:50 < minto> mnemoc: Well apparently not in my case. Just checked and the libshodow.so is definitely available in /lib 20:51 < mnemoc> minto: -L/lib looks like a hack to solve a deeper problem 20:51 < minto> hmm, /usr/lib only contains static libshadow.a and la 20:52 < minto> mnemoc: How should I solve it then? 20:52 < minto> Or is there someway to check what will be taken default by ld? 20:53 < mnemoc> minto: i think so 20:53 * minto does man ld 20:54 < morfoh> moin oranje men 20:54 < minto> hi rat man :) 20:55 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.216.2.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:55 < morfoh> haha ... minto 20:55 < minto> How you bunny doing? 20:55 < morfoh> minto: I'll be in netherlands tomorrow 20:55 < morfoh> bunny is quite good 20:55 < minto> Ohh, where? 20:55 < morfoh> I'll pass venlo I think to go to brussels 20:56 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.229.217.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:56 < minto> Hmm :( that's way off coarse 20:57 < morfoh> if I would go alone I'd come to amsterdam, but we're 5 20:57 < minto> What's in Brussels (besides beer) 20:57 < morfoh> I was invited to a marriage there 20:58 < minto> Oehhh, free food and drinks :D 20:58 < morfoh> after the weekend we'll go to paris 20:58 < morfoh> :D 20:58 < minto> That's even more off coarse 20:58 < morfoh> yep 20:58 < mnemoc> oh, my uncle won his first match on Champions League 20:58 < morfoh> what app can I use for getting pictures from a digicam 20:58 < minto> Yippee, mnemoc is buying 20:59 < minto> :D 20:59 < mnemoc> uhm? 21:00 < morfoh> there is a kde package digikam 21:00 < morfoh> but I think I had problems using it with my cam last time I tried 21:01 < minto> sepp or sepp_: 21:01 < minto> == 20:46:41 =[5]=> Building x11/tk [8.4.10 2.2.0-alpha]. 21:01 < minto> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled. 21:01 < minto> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 21:01 < minto> -> Preparing build in src.tk.trunkref.20050810.204634.9085.devserver 21:01 < minto> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tk.out 21:01 < minto> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tk.out -> 5-tk.log 21:01 < minto> == 08/10/05 20:53:22 =[5]=> Finished building package tk. 21:02 < sepp> minto: :) good, forget my silly question 21:03 < minto> sepp: How did you build? Maybe something has changed with dependancies? 21:03 < sepp> moment please 21:04 < mnemoc> minto: http://www.villarrealcf.es/pantallas/archivo.php?SEC=1&NOT=1883# :) 21:05 < mnemoc> minto: the coach is brother of my mother 21:05 < minto> mnemoc: Sorry I can't read chinese :) 21:05 < mnemoc> minto: it's in english for me... 21:06 < minto> hmm, it is spanish for me 21:07 < sepp> minto: it failed because i had no tcl 8.4.9 tarball on my notebook, sorry my fault 21:07 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.231.154.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:08 < sepp> Emerge -system tried to update tk but not tcl ... 21:08 < sepp> or download tcl 21:08 < minto> hmmm, strange 21:09 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg's brain considered harmful 21:09 < sepp> :) 21:09 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 21:10 < mnemoc> i don't have the courage to run it without -deps=none 21:11 < sepp> Emerge-Pkg -system from a old 2.1 pre rc1 caused quite some trouble :( 21:12 < mnemoc> yep 21:12 < minto> Seems like sepp is very brave ( he has lots of courage) 21:12 < mnemoc> lots^lots 21:14 < _Ragnar_> it hasn't broken anything for me on my laptop update 21:14 < minto> Oehh, _Ragnar_ is brave too 21:15 < minto> Anyone know what package contains mxDateTime.h 21:15 < _Ragnar_> was somewhat of a hassle to weed out which of the dependencies that were not installed already the package really really needed;) 21:16 < morfoh> uhm ? digikam doesn't seem to install binaries ? 21:16 < morfoh> just docs and useless crap 21:17 < CIA-3> sebastian * r10940 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.cache: * updated the cache file, libevent was missing 21:20 < minto> Would it be possible to have flists of a reference build accessible over the net? Like this it is easy to find packages corresponding to files. 21:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: add the issue 21:22 < minto> :D 21:25 < minto> Can someone find out for me which package contains mxDateTime.h 21:25 < minto> My reference build (as far as it went) does not contain it yet :( 21:25 < mnemoc> python-mx 21:25 < mnemoc> or something like that :) 21:25 < minto> :) thanks 21:25 < mnemoc> ]# echo t2-trunk/package/python/*mx* 21:25 < mnemoc> t2-trunk/package/python/py-mx 21:26 < _Ragnar_> py-mx 21:26 < _Ragnar_> yea 21:26 < _Ragnar_> :D too slow 21:26 < mnemoc> *g* 21:29 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.196.238.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep ... 21:38 < minto> Uhhhm? 21:38 < minto> ERROR: No configuration 'trunkref' found! 21:38 < mnemoc> ^C ? 21:39 < minto> No need it stops right after this. 21:39 < mnemoc> before that 21:39 < mnemoc> during the previews run of Build-Target (when Config was run) or of Config itself 21:40 < mnemoc> if you are lucky you have a copy at src/$trunkref/ 21:40 < minto> During Build-Target 21:40 < minto> Hmm, maybe this caused it 21:40 < minto> == 21:24:59 =[5]=> Building python/py-mx [2.0.6 2.2.0-alpha]. 21:40 < minto> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled. 21:40 < minto> -> Preparing build in src.py-mx.trunkref.20050810.212457.1808.devserver 21:40 < minto> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-py-mx.out 21:40 < minto> ./scripts/functions: line 101: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory 21:40 < minto> ./scripts/functions: line 102: 5986 Done eval "echo \"\${hookidx_$1[*]}\"" 21:40 < minto> 5987 Broken pipe | sort 21:40 < minto> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-py-mx.out -> 5-py-mx.log 21:40 < minto> == 08/10/05 21:25:47 =[5]=> Finished building package py-mx. 21:41 < _Ragnar_> link from /dev/fd to /proc/fd 21:41 < mnemoc> /proc/self/fd :) 21:42 < _Ragnar_> sorry ;) 21:42 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.229.217.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:42 * mnemoc wonders how bsd people lives without /proc 21:49 < minto> :( time's up, but still my trunkref is gone :( 21:49 < minto> But I have no more time today. See you all, sleep well 21:49 < mnemoc> :( 21:49 < mnemoc> cu minto 21:49 -!- minto [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:50 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.196.238.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:01 < veki> mnemoc: I started again to build desktop target with 2G of swap. I hope that this time there will no be cc1plus internal error due to lack of swap space 22:01 < mnemoc> :) 22:02 < _Ragnar_> O_O ouch :) 22:02 < veki> ah, yes, it is strange that even building of mysqql says that there is lack of swap space of 320megs on my hd 22:04 < _Ragnar_> Mem: 527552512 432414720 95137792 0 13107200 280981504 22:04 < _Ragnar_> Swap: 1077501952 232542208 844959744 22:04 < _Ragnar_> no complaints 22:05 < mnemoc> 512+1024 is normal these days 22:05 < veki> mnemoc: OK, but as, you know kde packages suck during build process 22:05 < mnemoc> kde packages suck always :) 22:06 < veki> ah, yes, I call them kde suckages :) 22:06 < _Ragnar_> *g* 22:06 < _Ragnar_> ls -l package/gnome* | wc -l > 200 .... that's suckage ;p 22:06 < veki> :) 22:07 < mnemoc> count the time to build gnome*/ against kde*/ and the used resources 22:07 < veki> what is your experience is there any ratio measured 22:07 < mnemoc> buildtime is on .cache files 22:07 < veki> ok 22:08 < veki> I am sure that kde top on the list of greatest sucks 22:08 < _Ragnar_> :D 22:09 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: using T2, the amount of gnome packages is not a problem, the consumed resources is a big problem :) 22:10 < _Ragnar_> well the amount of time I recently had to spend to getting stuff on x86_64 to run was very much in favor of kde against gnome 22:10 < veki> there is newspaper here which rates the most stupid declarations of politicans and it is called Greatest (S)Hits and they give awrad (S)hit of the week 22:12 < veki> I us eon my laptop Gnome more than KDE since kde is memory eater, but gnome still does have some serious issues 22:12 < mnemoc> veki: xfce :) 22:13 < veki> to be honmest, I like the most wmaker. I still miss olg ugly reddish GUI 22:14 < veki> I still miss netscape 3.0 that is greenish wwith ugly reddish twm 22:14 < veki> :) 22:14 < veki> mnemoc: xfce is nice, I like it too 22:16 < veki> in 1995 I started with slackware. I miss it 22:20 < _Ragnar_> but lua package seems to but build liblualib 22:20 < _Ragnar_> btw8 22:20 < _Ragnar_> uhm ;) lemme rephrase that 22:20 < _Ragnar_> btw: lua package seems to not build liblualib 22:21 < mnemoc> :( 22:21 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.192.167.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 22:21 < sepp> re hi 22:21 < veki> hi 22:22 < sepp> there was a discussion about a multi directional rsync like thing some time ago, anyone remembers? 22:23 < mnemoc> unison? 22:23 < sepp> ahh yes i think that was the name :) 22:24 < mnemoc> :) 22:27 < CIA-3> amery * r10941 /trunk/package/filesystem/unison/unison.desc: * updated unison (2.10.2 -> 2.12.0) 22:27 < sepp> :D 22:28 < mnemoc> :) 22:41 < veki> I am building desktop target rc2. So far it goes well. 22:51 < CIA-3> sebastian * r10942 /trunk/package/network/kismet/kismet.desc: * updated kismet (2005-06-R1 -> 2005-07-R1a) 23:09 -!- sparc-kly [n=G4@64.237.251.36] has joined #t2 23:17 -!- shingo-- [n=shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:19 < veki> I have to go to sleep guys. cu tomorrow 23:19 -!- veki [n=veki@217.24.19.40] has quit ["leaving"] 23:27 < sepp> good night * 23:30 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.10.31] has joined #t2 23:30 < keinek> hi --- Log closed Thu Aug 11 00:00:00 2005