T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-16

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--- Log opened Tue Aug 16 00:00:00 2005
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05:24 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
05:24 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
05:24 [Users #t2]
05:24 [@vilkacis ] [ CIA-9] [ keinek ] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] [ sparc-kly|U5]
05:24 [ _Lewellyn] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ] [ valentin ]
05:24 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly]
05:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
05:24 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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06:04 < CIA-9> amery * r11043 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (bdb43.patch system-mozilla.patch t2-distro.patch): * changed ooo to use patches included on m123 to enable bdb43 support, and removed system-mozilla patch because it doesn't apply anymore and doesn't look needed
06:29 < CIA-9> amery * r11044 /branches/2.1/package/office/ooo/ (5 files):
06:29 < CIA-9> * merged 10294,11034 from trunk: updated ooo (1.9-m110 -> 1.9-m123)
06:29 < CIA-9> * merged 11035,11038 from trunk: disabled (temporarily) ooo's cairo support
06:29 < CIA-9> * merged 11039 from trunk: disabled temporarily ooo's mdb (MS Access) support
06:29 < CIA-9> * merged 11042,11043 from trunk: cleaned ooo due to old [D]s and patches
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07:29 < CIA-9> amery * r11045 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.6.5 -> 2.6.6)
07:34 < CIA-9> amery * r11046 /trunk/package/editors/emacs/emacs.desc: * updated emacs (21.4 -> 21.4a)
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08:20 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11047 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc-0.8.2-asm.patch:
08:20 < CIA-9> * vlcs assembler code segments have problems compiling on x86_64, added
08:20 < CIA-9> patch to fix these.
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09:56 < valentin> moin
09:57 < rxr_> re
09:57 < rxr_> moin valentin !
09:57 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:57 < rxr> valentin: can we phone sohrtly
09:57 < rxr> ? even
10:11 < valentin> shortly, yes
10:25 < rxr> valentin: mail sent
10:48 < CIA-9> rene * r11048 /trunk/package/network/trickle/ (. trickle.desc):
10:48 < CIA-9> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa
10:48 < CIA-9> * added trickle
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r11049 /trunk/package/develop/rapidsvn/ (. rapidsvn.cache rapidsvn.conf rapidsvn.desc):
10:51 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
10:51 < CIA-9> * added rapidsvn
10:52 < CIA-9> rene * r11050 /trunk/package/network/gift-fasttrack/ (. gift-fasttrack.desc):
10:52 < CIA-9> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa :
10:52 < CIA-9> * added gift-fasttrack
10:54 < CIA-9> rene * r11051 /trunk/package/network/giftcurs/ (. giftcurs.desc):
10:54 < CIA-9> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa :
10:54 < CIA-9> * added giftcurs
10:56 < CIA-9> rene * r11052 /trunk/package/network/giftoxic/ (. giftoxic.desc):
10:56 < CIA-9> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa :
10:56 < CIA-9> * added givtoxic
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r11053 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/libresolv.patch:
10:58 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
10:58 < CIA-9> * fixed sendmail for bdb with threading support
10:59 < CIA-9> rene * r11054 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/heimdal.desc:
10:59 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
10:59 < CIA-9> * tweaked heimdal priority to build before mutt
11:01 < CIA-9> rene * r11055 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/ (autoconf.patch buildmacros.patch new_automake.patch):
11:01 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:01 < CIA-9> * fixed xfsprogs patches
11:03 < CIA-9> rene * r11056 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc:
11:03 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:03 < CIA-9> * updated device-mapper (1.01.03 -> 1.01.04)
11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r11057 /trunk/package/x86/cpuburn/cpuburn.desc:
11:09 < CIA-9> * fixed cpuburn extraction by translating the URL to a suffix
11:09 < CIA-9> recognized by the build system
11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r11058 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/precompiled_headers.patch:
11:12 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:12 < CIA-9> * fixed ncftp precompiled header usgae
11:14 < CIA-9> rene * r11059 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:14 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:14 < CIA-9> * tweaked package priorites for perl-gtk / perk-glib
11:16 < CIA-9> rene * r11060 /trunk/package/mail/mutt/configure.patch:
11:16 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:16 < CIA-9> fixed mutt heimdal detection
11:17 < CIA-9> rene * r11061 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/slapd-module-smbk5pwd-1.3.diff:
11:17 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:17 < CIA-9> * fixed heimdal heimdal's slapd-module for internal API changes
11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r11062 /trunk/package/security/pcsc-lite/pcsc-lite.conf:
11:19 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:19 < CIA-9> * fixed pcsc-lite to not try to install devfsd configuration if devfsd
11:19 < CIA-9> is not built
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14:03 < rxr> cu soon
14:15 < Shingo--> there's another package witch depends of confopt --changeword from m4.
14:15 < Shingo--> what's the better way to handle this?
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14:44 < rxr> re
14:45 < rxr> ?
14:45 < rxr> changeword what ?
15:10 < valentin> re from OSX
15:24 < valentin> rxr: what where those debugging vars again ?
15:25 < valentin> ok, the problem lies even deeper
15:25 < valentin> the scanner is not registered in the usb stack anymore
15:27 < valentin> maybe i broke the cable :/
15:29 < rxr> maybe plug n' play broke the usb port temporarily under OSX ...
15:29 < valentin> another cable does not work too
15:29 < valentin> rxr: i switched the ports and my mouse still works on the other one
15:29 < rxr> you know - under commercial, high-quality USB stacks this happens from time to time
15:29 < rxr> hm
15:29 < rxr> then the port should not be dead ...
15:30 < valentin> the scanner led blinks red - is that supposed to be like that ?
15:33 < valentin> hm - i plug in the av220 on the same cable and it is displayed in OSX System Profiler(tm)
15:34 < valentin> so the 620 broke again ?!
15:34 < valentin> 610 does not even work with ADF detached :(
15:35 < rxr> valentin: please note that you must not unplug / plug the ADF while the scanner has power
15:35 < rxr> and no - I think OSX more likely fucked s.th. up ...
15:35 < valentin> rxr: i did not do so !
15:36 < rxr> when did you last test the new AV610?
15:36 < valentin> but why does the scanner LED blink red as soon as i turn the power switch on ?
15:36 < rxr> maybe first cycle power on the 610 and reboot and then plug the usb cable in again
15:36 < rxr> oehm
15:36 < rxr> no idea
15:36 < rxr> you have not locked the transport thing ?
15:36 < valentin> i tested it when it arrived that was around thu or so ?
15:36 < rxr> when did you last test the device? under which OS ?
15:37 < valentin> here in OSX
15:37 < rxr> hm
15:37 < valentin> i reboot
15:37 < rxr> and power-cycle the scanner I would say
15:37 < rxr> strange thing
15:38 < valentin> wtf - now the LED blinks green
15:38 < rxr> osx is an pseudo wanna be OS from hell ...
15:39 < valentin> attached !!
15:39 < valentin> hm, i was close to sending the scanner back to BHS...
15:40 < rxr> ...
15:45 < valentin> i crashed exactscan...
15:45 < rxr> how ?
15:46 < valentin> after finishing some ADF preview scans - i try to reproduce
15:49 < valentin> interessting since color modes are emulated anyway in preview mode - so in fact i scanned color all the time
15:52 < rxr> then it is most likely some segfault or so inside the GUI logic I guess ... =
15:52 < rxr> I have no ADF flatbet here to test right now ...
15:53 < valentin> rxr: i will try to find out where it happens
15:54 < CIA-9> rene * r11063 /trunk/package/network/amule/ (amule.conf config.hlp config.in):
15:54 < CIA-9> Alessandro Tognoli :
15:54 < CIA-9> * implemented some amule Config options
15:56 < valentin> btw: i found another issue, when turned on to late so the scanner is not found, then the driver hangs on rescanning USB bus
15:56 < rxr> yes - rescannig can not work right now ...
15:56 < rxr> maybe we should remove the button from the GUI until I rewrote many parts of the i/o core path
15:57 < valentin> ok but then the app should terminate itself
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16:11 < keinek> hi
16:18 < valentin> rxr: maybe that is wrong geometry data causing some mem to be overwritten... i investigate
16:21 < sparc-kly> hi keinek
16:26 < valentin> rxr: do you still need the .profile ?
16:27 < rxr> yes
16:27 < valentin> for the goolge log (tm):
16:28 < valentin> export CPPFLAGS="-I/t2/include"
16:28 < valentin> export CFLAGS="-I/t2/include -L/t2/lib"
16:28 < valentin> export CXXFLAGS="-I/t2/include -L/t2/lib"
16:28 < valentin> export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH="/t2/lib"
16:29 < valentin> i think that is the stuff you need
16:29 < rxr> can you paste the remaining junk as well ?
16:30 < valentin> hell xcode crashed
16:30 < valentin> i just wanted to create a new file for some testing code stuff
16:30 < valentin> and it crashed after i hit "add to project..."
16:31 < valentin> PATH="/t2/bin:$PATH"
16:31 < valentin> PS1='\w$ '
16:31 < valentin> alias l="ls -la"
16:31 < valentin> alias ll="ls -l"
16:31 < valentin> alias ..="cd .."
16:31 < valentin> alias ...="cd ../.."
16:31 < valentin> export EDITOR="vi"
16:31 < valentin> that's all folks...
16:33 < rxr> thanks
17:02 < mnemoc_> moin
17:03 < rxr> moin mnemoc_
17:03 < mnemoc_> Shingo--: what host OS?
17:03 < mnemoc_> moin rxr
17:08 < mnemoc_> rxr: does openvpn build with lzo (2.0x) there?
17:09 < mnemoc_> rxr,valentin: how slow is http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2 for you?
17:10 < valentin> mnemoc_: slow enough :P
17:11 < valentin> the main page loaded a bit slow, but overall it is usable
17:11 < mnemoc_> valentin: how does it look?
17:12 < valentin> like the plone thing morfoh set up
17:12 < mnemoc_> is that good, bad, ... ?
17:13 < mnemoc_> i got multilingual support working there
17:13 < valentin> besides that the fonts and tabs are a bit small imo... it is ok
17:13 < mnemoc_> do you see it as small as www2.t2-project.org?
17:19 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - I think as small as www2 ...
17:24 < mnemoc> :(
17:24 < rxr> mnemoc: where do you need lzo vpn feedback =
17:24 < rxr> which arch / version I mean
17:24 < rxr> mnemoc: do not care about font critic - we can tuen .css whatever anytime
17:25 < mnemoc> i set it to 10px, and i see it the double of www2
17:25 < rxr> never use px for anything but image positioning ...
17:25 < mnemoc> anyway, that plone is working with multilingual etc..
17:25 < mnemoc> rxr: what should i use? pt?
17:25 < rxr> my laptops and desktop do not have 72 or 75 dpi but much more ...
17:25 < rxr> so the font is tiny like h*ll on the screen ...
17:25 < rxr> and force me to hit zoom text twice or so ...
17:26 < rxr> 9 or 10 pt should be fine
17:27 < mnemoc> wow
17:27 < mnemoc> 9pt >> 10px
17:28 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
17:28 < mnemoc> now it's 9pt
17:29 < mnemoc> and i see it bigger than old 10px
17:29 < mnemoc> very readable
17:29 < mnemoc> is it ok for you now? (shift-refresh)
17:29 < rxr> ,-)
17:30 < rxr> px == pixel - pt == points that are real-dimension based and dpi dependant ...
17:30 < mnemoc> :D
17:30 < mnemoc> you are scanner-guru here :)
17:31 < mnemoc> if you want, set it to www3.t2p.o to start adding content, and later when someone set a good zope/plone/linguaplone on a good link, move the content.
17:32 < rxr> mnemoc: what is the official plan from you and morpho regarding his vs. your plone setup ?
17:33 < mnemoc> he has good link, i dont
17:34 < mnemoc> i have a working plone, he doesn't
17:34 < rxr> mnemoc: ic ...
17:34 < rxr> how much scp do I need to copy your plone setup ?
17:34 < mnemoc> you need to install and configure zope 2.8.1, plone 2.1.0-rc2 and linguaplone 0.8
17:35 < mnemoc> and a reverse proxy to rewrite to zope server
17:35 < mnemoc> after that i can export a marshall of the site, and you import it there
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17:36 < rxr> ouhm
17:37 < mnemoc> rxr: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-openvpn.err <--- openvpn looking for lzo1 headers which are not install by current trunk's lzo (2.0.x)
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: lzo2 has API changes which are not supported by openvpn 2.0
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: http://openvpn.net/beta/openvpn-2.0.1_rc7.tar.gz ?
18:04 < mnemoc> (/me updating irssi, brb)
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18:21 < valentin> re
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18:30 < mnemoc> re valentin
18:35 < rxr> hi valentin
18:35 < mnemoc> rxr: should i update openvpn to rc7?
18:36 < rxr> well - I do not say no ,-)
18:40 < mnemoc> i'm not using openvpn, you are :)
18:41 < bfg> Hi
18:41 < mnemoc> hi bfg
18:42 < bfg> can someone explain how pkg__post.conf and similar files work? (found for instance inf heimdal for openldap and so on)
18:42 < mnemoc> between parse-configs and $confdir/$pkg.conf
18:43 < bfg> are there aother options than ....._post.conf? eg. ....._pre.conf? and are they applied only if the package (in this case heimdal) is built?
18:43 < mnemoc> yes, pre and post
18:43 < mnemoc> pre are loaded before $confdir/$pkg.conf
18:43 < mnemoc> and post are loaded after $confdir/$pkg.conf
18:43 < mnemoc> only if the extender is enabled
18:44 < mnemoc> enabled=Xed on config/$config/packages
18:44 < bfg> ok thanks...
18:44 < mnemoc> parse-config files are always sourced, before pkg_${pkg}_pre.conf-s
18:44 < bfg> and also onyl if this package is enabled?
18:45 < mnemoc> nope, always
18:45 < bfg> i see
18:45 < mnemoc> parse-config has to discriminate itself if he has to do it's job or not
18:47 < CIA-9> amery * r11064 /trunk/package/network/openvpn/openvpn.desc: * updated openvpn (2.0 -> 2.0.1_rc7) - because 2.0 doesn't support lzo 2.0.x new API
18:58 < rxr> ok - Gerhard Weis should have write access now ,-)
19:00 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about http://$target.t2-powered.net/ with separated svn repositories, and a trac, keeping only core targets on t2 tree?
19:01 < rxr> well - who pays all the many domains then ... ?
19:01 < rxr> $target.t2-project.org ... ?
19:02 < mnemoc> doesn't that exclude more commercial targets?
19:02 < rxr> does it ? ,-)
19:02 < rxr> so I have to invest 20EUR more per year into T2, right?
19:03 < mnemoc> 20 EUR! outch
19:03 < mnemoc> i pay 12 dollars per domain.... and that is expensive
19:03 < mnemoc> .org domains
19:03 < rxr> well - I have to admit I'm not at el'chipo resellers ...
19:04 < rxr> that is irc contact and cell no of the person in question ... and stuff like custom nameserver fluff whatever I need ...
19:04 < mnemoc> $any_funky_target.t2-project.org sounds like we support that target, $target.t2-powered.net sound more like a forge
19:04 < rxr> that is 10EUR/y for .de and 20EUR/y for most other stuff I think
19:04 < mnemoc> ic
19:05 < mnemoc> i'll postpone the idea until i win the lotery
19:05 < rxr> the question is - can we keep t2 as name ...
19:05 < mnemoc> what do you mean?
19:05 < rxr> not only that telco's have t names and sue people over stuff like using their color or T (...) - now there is a DVB-T receiver USB box named T2 .... :-((
19:05 < mnemoc> T2 is #51 on 1-month/distrowatch.... why can't change out name now
19:06 < rxr> yeah, ...
19:06 < rxr> the question is - do we feel comfortable with the name to not getting sued by telcom's in the next years ...
19:06 < rxr> http://www.google.com/search?q=t2+dvb-t&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
19:07 < rxr> http://tvde.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=238&POSTNUKESID=40ee1434f6dd419cfafcea97d4ea32df
19:08 < _Ragnar_> dvb should have no chance in an actual lawsuit since we were using the T2 much earlier
19:08 < _Ragnar_> but then, courts sometimes suck up to corporate 'sponsorship' ... ;P
19:08 < mnemoc> :(
19:09 < mnemoc> why could they want to sue us?
19:09 < _Ragnar_> cuz they suck
19:09 < mnemoc> :)
19:09 < rxr> mnemoc: when they notice our google ranking is higher than theirs ...
19:10 < rxr> on the other hand - the usb dvb-t box will soon be out-dated and they will have the next thing to hype ...
19:10 < valentin> de.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=238&POSTNUKESID=40ee1434f6dd419cfafcea97d4ea32df
19:10 < valentin> damn
19:10 < valentin> sorry
19:11 < rxr> either the "new feture" "t3" or a dvb-h or so "t4" ,-)
19:11 < rxr> valentin: the dvb-t box is actually quite cool and linux supported ...
19:11 < rxr> I consider buying one ... - though I should call before and get a signed paper that they will not sue us ...
19:12 < rxr> not that I buy a DVB-T box from a company sueing us later on ... .-(
19:12 < valentin> we could make a support agreement
19:13 < valentin> they do not sue us and we support a t2 package
19:13 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:13 < rxr> they could include the "T2@Live" flavour - booting straight into TV mode ,-)
19:14 < mnemoc> :)
19:15 < mnemoc> rxr: OT: supybot supports messages like CIA via a pipe-able command, vilkacis is a supybot.
19:17 < mnemoc> rxr: i can send you the config if you like
19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r11065 /branches/2.1/package/base/eject/eject.desc: * merged 9155 from trunk: updated eject (2.0.13 -> 2.1.0)
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19:22 < minto> hi all
19:22 < mnemoc> hi minto
19:22 < minto> :)
19:23 < minto> mnemoc: What hardware is actively supported?
19:24 < minto> I meant processor families
19:25 < minto> I know ./architecture but are the all actively supported?
19:26 < mnemoc> i do pmmx and p4
19:29 < rxr> minto: most - not all
19:29 < rxr> minto: I have sparc and arm here ...
19:29 < rxr> powerpc64 was never really built ...
19:30 < rxr> alpha was not built for ages
19:30 < rxr> hey - I have money right now - maybe I should buy an alpha ...
19:30 < rxr> ia64 was also only proof of concept cross built by me ...
19:30 < rxr> sh by valentin
19:30 < rxr> sh == superh
19:30 < rxr> but testing / finalizing an not-so-well-used arched is really a non-issue with T2 ...
19:31 < rxr> ah - and MIPS was built a lot at ROCK times ..
19:31 < rxr> well - s/a lot/by one person/
19:31 < rxr> thta is ...
19:31 < valentin> minto: i didn't find time to activly support my dreamcast target recently
19:33 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/GS160-Alpha-Server-EV68-Alpha-CPU-1000-MHZ_W0QQitemZ5797951499QQcategoryZ65567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
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19:39 < minto> I often get mailing for used workstations. This time it includes Ultrasparc, hppa and powerpc
19:42 < CIA-9> amery * r11066 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * merged 9759,11045 from trunk: * updated glib (2.6.4 -> 2.6.6)
19:44 < CIA-9> amery * r11067 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * merged 10843 from trunk: updated pango (1.8.1 -> 1.8.2)
19:45 < rxr> if you want to invesst time I would suggest hppa - noone ever really maintained that in t2 / rock ...
19:45 < CIA-9> amery * r11068 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * merged 10906 from trunk: updated gtk+ (2.6.8 -> 2.6.9)
19:45 < mnemoc> valentin: dreamcast is a candidate for extending embedded :)
19:45 < mnemoc> bbl
19:46 < rxr> I think I get an alpha this year and a MIPS embedded board ..
19:46 < mnemoc> http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery <--- two new targets extending mnemosyne, sedu and lamassu :)
19:46 < mnemoc> bbl
19:46 < minto> rxr: Unfortunately I am short on time. I was more wondering if someone else was interested :)
20:00 < valentin> mnemoc: i know...
20:00 < valentin> gweis is quite active theese days
20:01 < _Ragnar_> :D
20:32 < rxr> valentin: ack - do you have osx driver progress?
20:33 * rxr do'n dishes - cu soon
20:38 < Shingo--> hi, all
20:40 < Shingo--> mnemoc: The host is t2.
20:41 < Shingo--> mnemoc: There's a new package I'm trying to merge with tree. imms, do you known?
20:43 < Shingo--> rxr: m4 has a option in configure --changeword, some packages sometimes need that, and I found another one. :)
20:46 < minto> Hi Shingo--
20:46 < Shingo--> minto: Hi
21:30 < mnemoc> Shingo--: in that case enable it by default on m4.conf
21:37 < Shingo--> mnemoc: the package has built smooth. I have to code .conf? to verify m4 for --changeword or something like that?
21:45 < rxr> depends what this changeword does ..
21:45 < rxr> n8 all - cu in the very early morning
21:46 < rxr> The macro changeword and all associated functionnality is experimental. It is only available if the --enable-changeword option was given to configure, at GNU m4 installation time. The functionnality might change or even go away in the future. Do not rely on it. Please direct your comments about it the same way you would do for bugs.
21:47 < rxr> I would say just enable it in m4 and hope it will not change too much and break packages relying on it ...
21:47 < rxr> but /me in bed - cu all
21:47 < minto> sleep well rxr
21:47 < minto> I am off soon too.
21:48 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
21:48 < mnemoc> Shingo--: i did a m4.conf with --enable-changework commented some time ago...
21:49 < Shingo--> Ok, i see that. but in new package?
21:50 < mnemoc> uhm? m4 needs it, not 'new package'
21:51 < Shingo--> ops, wait. let's try clarify.
21:52 < Shingo--> well, m4 need to be built with --enable-changeword, because new package need that.
21:54 < Shingo--> If it's break a built for imms, what is a right procedure in this case?
21:55 < Shingo--> mnemoc: sorry for my english. :(
21:56 < mnemoc> just enable changeword on m4 and see if you get side effects
21:59 < Shingo--> well, side effects yet.
21:59 < Shingo--> I'll send the patches to ML.
23:35 < mnemoc> rxr: they just released openvpn 2.0.1 due to DoS vulnerability
23:38 < CIA-9> amery * r11069 /trunk/package/network/openvpn/openvpn.desc: * updated openvpn (2.0.1_rc7 -> 2.0.1)
23:43 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.13.72] has joined #t2
23:43 < keinek> hi
23:43 < mnemoc> hi keinek
23:49 < CIA-9> amery * r11070 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.12.1 -> 1.12.2)
23:49 < CIA-9> amery * r11071 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: * updated goffice (0.0.2 -> 0.0.3)
23:53 -!- minto [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:59 < CIA-9> amery * r11072 /branches/2.1/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * merged 10158,10466 from trunk: updated firefox (1.0.4 -> 1.0.6)
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