--- Log opened Thu Aug 18 00:00:00 2005 00:13 < CIA-9> amery * r11094 /branches/2.1/package/gnue/ (7 files in 6 dirs): 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10164,10928,11005 from trunk: updated gnue-appserver (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2) 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10165,10929,11003 from trunk: updated gnue-common (0.5.14 -> 0.6.0) 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10167,10932,11008 from trunk: updated gnue-designer (0.5.6 -> 0.5.7) 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10163,10191,10227,10927,11004 from trunk: updated gnue-forms (0.5.11 -> 0.5.12) and repriorized between gnue-common and gnue-* 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10166,10930,11007 from trunk: updated gnue-navigator (0.0.8 -> 0.0.9) 00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10190,10931,11006 from trunk: * updated gnue-reports (0.1.7 -> 0.1.8) 00:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11095 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/libgnome/libgnome.desc: * merged 10523 from trunk: updated libgnome (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1) 00:25 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.122] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 < CIA-9> amery * r11096 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gail/gail.desc: * merged 9750 from trunk: updated gail (1.8.3 -> 1.8.4) 00:52 -!- sparc-kly|univ [n=univ@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 01:11 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.122] has joined #t2 01:29 < sparc-kly|univ> mnemoc: 01:39 < mnemoc> sparc-kly|univ: 01:41 < sparc-kly|univ> http://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/powerpc/ <-- this is newer version of RockLinux ? 01:42 < mnemoc> crystal is rock's multipurpose 1 cd official distribution 01:43 < mnemoc> i guess it's a good ISO, but i have never tried crystal 01:44 < mnemoc> but they are at r6297 and that iso claims to be built with 4986 01:45 < mnemoc> so, it's quite old 01:46 < valentin> hi mnemoc 01:46 < mnemoc> hi valentin 01:46 < valentin> do we have rc2 build isos ? 01:46 < mnemoc> yes 01:47 < mnemoc> on gsmp 01:47 < mnemoc> but only pmmx and p4 01:47 < mnemoc> morpho never uploaded athlon-{xp,mp} 01:48 < mnemoc> i noone build sparc or ppc 01:48 < mnemoc> athlon-xp isos are on bittorrent 01:49 < valentin> mnemoc: why is [V] optional for branch versions ? 01:49 < mnemoc> because branches don't always imply a different version 01:50 < mnemoc> they can be architectural branches of binary packages 01:50 < valentin> ok ic 01:51 < mnemoc> but it can be mandatory :) 01:51 < valentin> there is another sentence that i do not understand. the following: $desc_B would be used like /^($desc_B)$/ to see if the argument matches 01:51 < valentin> or not. 01:52 < mnemoc> [B] foo|bar --> /^(foo|bar)$/ && { branch=$thisbranch; break; } 01:53 < mnemoc> [X] is named $desc_X on Build-Pkg 01:53 < valentin> ok 01:54 < sparc-kly|univ> i need ppc and sparc build :( 01:54 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: make one! :) 01:54 < sparc-kly|univ> in what system ? 01:54 < mnemoc> sparc-kly|univ: on one of your sparcs :) 01:55 < sparc-kly|univ> i need one iso , my sparcs running gentoo . t2 dont run in gentoo . 01:56 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: we have solved lot of incompatibilities 01:57 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: start one and we finish that issue 01:57 < sparc-kly|univ> ok you Win 01:58 < sparc-kly|univ> i see you later . i go to my house now . 01:58 < mnemoc> valentin: but it's just a brainstorming.... do your suggestions and get a good solution :) 01:58 -!- sparc-kly|univ [n=univ@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:00 < mnemoc> valentin: i impossed target inherence, i don't want to do the same for package multi-instance, we need discussion :) 02:18 < CIA-9> amery * r11097 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.postinstall: * merged 10435 from trunk: fixed gdm.postinstall to create the Sessions directory 02:22 < valentin> mnemoc: r11111 tonight ? 02:22 < valentin> well, without me, i need some sleep now 02:23 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr* 02:23 < _Ragnar_> .oO(what could I commit?) 02:23 < _Ragnar_> O_O 02:24 < mnemoc> i have lot of merges to do :) 02:24 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr* 02:24 < _Ragnar_> to trunk? 02:24 < _Ragnar_> oh no, 2.1 also counts ;) 02:25 < valentin> with the current patch flow there will be 22222 within a year. so you do not need to fight for that one 02:25 < _Ragnar_> ;D 02:25 < _Ragnar_> *lol* yea 02:29 < mnemoc> :) 02:30 < _Ragnar_> hook_add premake 3 'eval $MAKE depend' <-- do you have a clue why this is needed for openldap? 02:33 < mnemoc> make depend before make all on some contexts do links an prepare thing.... no idea if openldap really needs it 02:33 < mnemoc> does it fail? 02:33 < _Ragnar_> cuz it breaks both builds on uclibc and x86_64, tho I dunno why 02:36 < mnemoc> uhm 02:37 < _Ragnar_> btw: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/ <-- 02:37 < _Ragnar_> does that sound like a good thing to include? 02:38 < mnemoc> we have it 02:38 < mnemoc> from... 3 years ago? 02:38 < _Ragnar_> O_O oh? 02:39 < mnemoc> brb 02:39 < _Ragnar_> :D 02:39 * _Ragnar_ blushes 02:39 < mnemoc> :) 02:39 < mnemoc> brb 02:41 < valentin> gn8 all 04:35 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@mercantile.wb.com.br] has joined #t2 04:48 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFAB30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 05:02 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:04 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8F4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:18 -!- rxr_ [i=rene@e178183081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 05:18 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 05:18 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 05:18 [Users #t2] 05:18 [@vilkacis ] [ CIA-9] [ keinek] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin] 05:18 [ _Lewellyn] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ] 05:18 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw_] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] 05:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 05:18 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 05:18 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 05:27 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178133082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:36 < rxr_> re 05:36 -!- You're now known as rxr 06:32 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=mubex@64.237.243.32] has joined #t2 06:41 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.122] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:47 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nzg, CIA-9, mtr_, _Lewellyn, mnemoc 06:47 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9, mtr_, _Lewellyn, mnemoc, nzg 07:51 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.12.227] has quit ["Abandonando"] 08:05 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nzg, CIA-9, mtr_, _Lewellyn, mnemoc 08:05 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9, mtr_, _Lewellyn, mnemoc, nzg 08:31 < rxr> uClibc 0.9.28 08:31 < rxr> Xpdf 3.01 08:31 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 08:31 < mtr> moin 08:31 < rxr> GNU Wget 1.10.1 08:32 * rxr updating after breakfast ... 08:32 < rxr> cu 08:32 < mtr> uClibc patches need updates, i am currently working on them 08:33 < mtr> cu rxr 09:16 < rxr> re 09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r11098 /trunk/package/network/wget/wget.desc: * updated wget (1.10 -> 1.10.1) 09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11099 /trunk/package/graphic/xpdf/ (4 files): * updated xpdf (3.00pl3 -> 3.01) 10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11100 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.3.3 -> 0.4.0) 10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11101 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.3.2 -> 0.3.4) 10:51 < rxr> my custom C code is about 15 times faster than imagemagick (for loading a jpeg, normalizing, threshold and saving as 1-bit tiff ... 10:51 < rxr> imagemagick needs 6.x seconds on my files - my custom code 0.2 10:54 < rxr> well - even nearly 26 times as fast ... even ... !!! 11:08 < rxr> valentin: maybe with ExactImage on the horizon it is time to rename gsmp to ExactSound ? 11:08 < Shingo--> moin 11:10 < Shingo--> I ahd send somes packages to ML, but the behaviour of ML is different from the last time. 11:10 < Shingo--> don't returned any mail to my email. 11:10 < rxr> Shingo--: then most probably none has replied to them yet 11:11 < rxr> I can take a look into your patches in some moments 11:11 < Shingo--> no problem, :) 11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r11102 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.39 -> 1.40) 11:12 < Shingo--> I have some comments about gxine package. 11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r11103 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.3.15 -> 1.3.17) 11:13 < CIA-9> rene * r11104 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.3-5 -> 6.2.4-1) 11:13 < Shingo--> should I write here? 11:14 < Shingo--> well, I had made a .conf to gxine package but a I think, it's really not necessary I think. 11:15 < rxr> Shingo--: you can write here on on the list - whateer you prefer 11:15 < Shingo--> because, the start-up wizard maybe do the job, but I'm not sure. 11:16 < rxr> the list has the advantage to receive more people and that asycnchonously - to let people look into / respond when they have time ,-) 11:16 < Shingo--> all are documented. isn't? 11:16 < rxr> start up wizard ? 11:18 < Shingo--> the program gxine has a start up wizard to check the system and do some else things, I have to investitigate more about this. but initialy i think the .postinstall script would not be a problem. 11:20 < Shingo--> I had ask the question about .postinstall script but I don't remember what was anwsered. 11:20 < Shingo--> when .postinstall script run? 11:21 < rxr> currently only after CD installation 11:21 < rxr> but this needs to be improofed 11:23 < Shingo--> ok, this scripts are created in mind to run innumerous time? 11:23 < Shingo--> like when we run cron.run? 11:23 < rxr> well - in the past (like at ROCK times) we had no postinstall - only this cron daily ting 11:23 < Shingo--> that's not maybe the ideia? 11:24 < rxr> we factored them out (and ROCK as well in the meantime) 11:24 < rxr> we run them after CD installation and need some add on code to run them in certain cases when a package is build from source or installed as binary 11:24 < rxr> but (re)writing a real installer is on some todo ... 11:25 < Shingo--> oh yeah I see that. 11:25 < CIA-9> rene * r11105 /trunk/package/python/python/python.desc: 11:25 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis : 11:25 < CIA-9> * fixed python priority for postgres 11:26 < CIA-9> rene * r11106 /trunk/package/x11/libart_lgpl23/libart_lgpl23.desc: 11:26 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis : 11:26 < CIA-9> * fixed libart_lgpl23 priority for rrdtool 11:27 < Shingo--> rxr: do you work with environment music? if does, what your player? 11:27 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 11:28 < morfoh> moin 11:28 < rxr> hi morfoh 11:28 < rxr> morfoh: do I have a trac loging ? 11:28 < morfoh> hi rxr 11:28 < rxr> -g 11:29 < rxr> Shingo--: you mean desktop music player? xmms - but I do not like it and writing a C++ code based state of the art player is planned inside the gsmp (ExactSound?) project - that has a tiny priority number due to T2 and associated work ... 11:29 < morfoh> rxr: afaik nope 11:30 < morfoh> rxr: send me a htpasswd SHA1 hash 11:30 < morfoh> rxr: anyway we should finish trac svn sync 11:30 < Shingo--> did you read about xmms2 project? what do you think? 11:30 < Shingo--> rxr: ? 11:31 < rxr> Shingo--: better don't ask ... ,-) 11:31 < Shingo--> can you send the url about gsmp, please? 11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11107 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (emacs-pop.diff pkg_emacs_post.conf): 11:34 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis : 11:34 < CIA-9> * updated heimdal kerberos5 support for emacs 11:35 < Shingo--> well, I ask that question about player because the new package I have send. imms, it's a very cool plugin/project. but I don't no anything about the code from this project. but this package/code compiles smoothly in T2. :) 11:35 < Shingo--> I advice you to use this plugin with xmms. ;) 11:35 < Shingo--> if you don't know it of course. :) 11:36 < Shingo--> rxr: 11:48 < CIA-9> rene * r11108 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc: * updated xmame (0.97 -> 0.99) 11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r11109 /trunk/package/ (15 files in 15 dirs): 11:51 < CIA-9> * fixed all occurances of Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa and tweaked some 11:51 < CIA-9> .desc details on the way 12:06 < rxr> Shingo--: your gxine patch on the mailing list seems to be missing 12:07 < Shingo--> really? i'll check this. 12:10 * rxr off for lunch ingedients ... 12:14 < CIA-9> chris * r11110 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * upadted libprelude (0.9.0-rc11 -> 0.9.0-rc13) 12:14 < CIA-9> chris * r11111 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc10 -> 0.9.0-rc12) 12:15 < CIA-9> chris * r11112 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc8) 12:19 < CIA-9> chris * r11113 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc9 -> 0.9.0-rc10) 12:20 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.13] has joined #t2 12:25 < Shingo--> rxr: well, a send the patch now. 12:31 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.83] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 < morfoh> rxr: i want to update snort up to 2.4.0 and strangely don 13:13 < morfoh> 't find net/route.h 13:13 < morfoh> from glibc 13:14 < morfoh> it even fails if I try to build it manually 14:16 < rxr> morfoh: hm - no idea right now 14:16 < morfoh> rxr: the strange thing is that net/route.h is present ... 14:23 < morfoh> rxr: and the people on #snort gave me the advice to ask T2 people because it builds on FC :p 14:40 < rxr> morfoh: what do I need to reproduce ? 14:41 < rxr> mnemoc: awake ? 14:42 < morfoh> rxr: I just removed the old snort.conf and updated from 2.3.3 -> 2.4.0 14:42 < morfoh> rxr: the "new" snort.conf just injects the prefix 14:42 < morfoh> if [ $prefix_auto = 1 ] ; then 14:42 < morfoh> prefix=opt/snort 14:42 < morfoh> set_confopt 14:42 < morfoh> fi 14:42 < rxr> morfoh: my trac login does not seem to work 14:42 < rxr> maybe I just submit a new hash ... 14:43 < rxr> maybe I mistyped s.th. hours ago ... 14:43 < morfoh> rxr: try again 14:43 < morfoh> rxr: I restarted apache already 14:44 < rxr> ah - works 14:44 < rxr> now 14:44 < morfoh> good :) 14:44 < rxr> so I can submit the next issues as rene - and not as anonymous ... 14:44 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... thank you 14:47 < morfoh> rxr: can I force a package to build with dietlibc explicitely ? 14:48 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=mubex@64.237.243.32] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:48 < rxr> flag it dietlibc and enable the build-with-dietlibc option in Config 14:49 < morfoh> ok 14:56 < menomc> moin 14:56 < morfoh> moin mnemonkey :p 14:56 < menomc> :) 14:57 < morfoh> menomc: how you doing today ? 14:57 < menomc> fine, and you? feeling better? 14:57 < morfoh> menomc: I guess it's cold 14:57 < menomc> yep 14:57 < morfoh> menomc: yep ... I feel better today but not cured yet 14:57 < menomc> 6°C acording to weatherchannel 14:57 < morfoh> menomc: but at work already 14:57 < menomc> :) 14:58 < morfoh> menomc: btw, we should really add dietlibc to vserver.ask 14:59 < morfoh> menomc: and forcing vserver to build against it 14:59 < morfoh> menomc: it fails here while build rc2 target for my laptop 14:59 < menomc> what? 15:00 < menomc> since when vserver doesn't build with glibc? 15:00 < morfoh> menomc: dunno 15:00 < menomc> uhm 15:01 < morfoh> menomc: but if you try to build it against glibc they print out an advice 15:01 < menomc> anyway, you can force vserver with dietlibc on vserver.conf checking if dietlibc is enabled 15:03 < rxr> menomc: ! 15:03 < rxr> menomc: can you untypo your nick again ,-) 15:03 < menomc> rxr: ! 15:03 < menomc> :) 15:03 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 15:03 < morfoh> rxr: this chilean guy always tries to confuse us :p 15:20 < mnemoc> :) 15:21 < mnemoc> last svn snapshot irrsi honors $alternate_nick on reconnects instead of just appending '_' 15:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11114 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * merged 10230 from trunk: update epiphany (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4) 15:27 < morfoh> cu later guys 15:27 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has left #t2 [] 16:07 < valentin> hi 16:08 < valentin> hi rxr, morfoh and menomc ,) 16:13 < mnemoc> hi valentin :) 16:13 < rxr> hey valentin ! 16:15 < CIA-9> amery * r11115 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtk-engines/gtk-engines.desc: * merged 10845 from trunk: updated gtk-engines (2.6.3 -> 2.6.4) 16:16 < CIA-9> amery * r11116 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * merged 10510 from trunk: updated gnome-keyring (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3) 16:16 < CIA-9> rene * r11117 /trunk/package/gnome2/gxine/ (. gxine.cache gxine.desc): * added gxine (0.4.6) 16:17 < CIA-9> amery * r11118 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * merged 10432 from trunk: update gtksourceview (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1) 16:19 < valentin> i just came home after a walk in the park with my daughter 16:19 < valentin> hey, who did the 11111 ? 16:21 < mnemoc> jeru 16:21 < mnemoc> Author: chris 16:21 < mnemoc> Date: 2005-08-18 12:14:56 +0200 (Thu, 18 Aug 2005) 16:21 < mnemoc> New Revision: 11111 16:21 < mnemoc> Log: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc10 -> 0.9.0-rc12) 16:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11119 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gok/gok.desc: * merged 9744 from trunk: updated gok (1.0.3 -> 1.0.5) 16:24 < mnemoc> valentin: did she enjoy? 16:25 < valentin> she was dreaming in deep sleep as always 16:26 < mnemoc> :D 16:33 < CIA-9> amery * r11120 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * merged 10514 from trunk: updated totem (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4) 16:35 < rxr> did you want to phone today ? 16:35 -!- bfg [n=bfg@chello080109010143.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 16:39 < valentin> rxr: not yet - i still investigate that issue 16:39 < rxr> ok 16:39 * rxr implementing a convulation matrix for my custom image code 16:39 < rxr> (for emulating a unsharp mask effect) 16:50 < valentin> rxr : i think i found the bug 16:51 < valentin> one pixmap is exactly 1 line to small, this causes the overflow. but it needs some more code reading for me to find out why that happens 16:52 < _Ragnar_> rxr: really ... we have to do something about Config trashing config files ;p 16:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ACK! 16:52 < rxr> you mean it is overwriting the files on-the-fly and does not like a coding bug or C^C, right? 16:52 < _Ragnar_> yes 16:53 < _Ragnar_> or just removing linux.cfg for example 16:58 < mtr> updating uClibc breaks Build-Target on chroot'ing after stage 1 :( 16:58 < rxr> ouhm 16:58 < mtr> attention, log file flood: 16:59 < mtr> -> Building tools.chroot/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 16:59 < mtr> -> Testing tools.chroot/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 16:59 < mtr> -> Creating tools.chroot/lib/parse-config. 16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 23: Memory exhausted 16:59 < mtr> -> Creating tools.chroot/lib/pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf 16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: Memory exhausted 16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: Memory exhausted 16:59 < rxr> hm - looks like the new version has some bug exposed by sed ... 17:00 < mtr> my guess is the fl_wrapper (again), something in the context of dynamic loading 17:00 < _Ragnar_> O_O 17:04 < mtr> should I commit the update anyway and break uClibc for now? (i cannot continue on this, going on vacation tomorrow) :) 17:05 < rxr> mtr: if you have done mroe than the update (that is e.g. rediffed one or the other patch) yep ,-) 17:06 < mtr> i have re-diffed two patches, disabled one obsolete, and have some other uclibc-specific pkg patches 17:08 < mtr> _Ragnar_: you're the uClibc [M], commit or !commit ? 17:08 < _Ragnar_> commit 17:08 < _Ragnar_> I'll look into it 17:16 < CIA-9> mtr * r11121 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.desc: * updated uclibc (0.9.27 -> 0.9.28) 17:20 < CIA-9> mtr * r11122 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (add_sinf_cosf.patch fix_shares_00dirtree.patch): 17:20 < CIA-9> * adapted uclibc fix-shares patch to 0.9.28 17:20 < CIA-9> * sinf/cosf are in libm now 17:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r11123 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (7 files): * fix/add some package patches for uClibc 17:27 < CIA-9> mtr * r11124 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (parse-config-9 uclibc.conf): 17:27 < CIA-9> * add ld.so.conf 17:27 < CIA-9> * add config hack for lzo, apr, apr-util 17:28 < _Ragnar_> hmmm 17:29 < _Ragnar_> maybe I should've commited that general configure config.sub patch 17:31 < CIA-9> mtr * r11125 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.00 -> 1.01) 17:35 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: do you still use my ugly config.sub magic fixing? 17:35 < _Ragnar_> well I made it more general 17:36 < mnemoc> good :) 17:37 < _Ragnar_> I now run uclibc_findall_fix_configsub for almost all packages with a wider set of files to patch 17:38 < _Ragnar_> maybe I should commit that O_O scared of breaking too many things tho 17:40 < mnemoc> if something gets broken, we fix it 17:41 < _Ragnar_> :D 17:45 < mnemoc> that's why was have an agile trunk and not a distributed system... like svk 17:46 * mnemoc tired 17:49 < bfg> hi, where can I send patches for knetconfig? there is a problem by installing the language files. if the directory ..../share/language//LC_MESSAGES does not exist the build filas 17:49 < bfg> filas -> fails 17:51 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.12.227] has joined #t2 17:51 < keinek> hi 17:52 < mnemoc> hi keinek 17:55 < mnemoc> rxr: Ticket #71 is for susan :) 18:04 < rxr> isn't it already removed in trunk ? 18:04 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - no - but try compile without ... ,-) 18:05 < mnemoc> most of the patch applied, i doubt they have fixed it officially 18:09 * mnemoc trying with hal50.patch removed 18:10 < rxr> mnemoc: oh :-( 18:10 < rxr> then I also doubt they fixed it in the meantime ... 18:10 < rxr> damn, slow gnome people ... 18:11 < mnemoc> they hanv't :\ 18:12 < mnemoc> i guess they don't plan to support both APIs 18:12 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED497.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:12 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 18:12 < morfoh> re hi 18:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: did you read about sedu and lamassu? 18:12 < morfoh> hi compañero :) 18:12 < morfoh> nope 18:13 < mnemoc> buen día camarada 18:17 < CIA-9> amery * r11126 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * improved mnemosyne's mnemosyne.pl to generate rules which set a valid default value and check if current value is also valid 18:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is sedu and lamassu ? 18:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have gave you the url three times :\ 18:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery 18:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: oops ? when did you gave me the URL ? 18:21 < mnemoc> never mind 18:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think it was in your dreams :p 18:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: but it's nice anyway :D 18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-16.log.bz2:13:48:17 http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery <--- two new targets extending mnemosyne, sedu and lamassu :) 18:23 < morfoh> cool cool cool :) 18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-17.log.bz2:11:52:58 morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery 18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-18.log:12:22:56 morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery 18:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: ah! I didn't scrolled back yesterday .... sorry :) 18:24 < mnemoc> awaylog is a good feature of irc clients :) 18:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: thanks for the hint master mnemoc :) 18:26 -!- bfg [n=bfg@chello080109010143.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has quit ["Verlassend"] 18:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: again ... looks very coooooool and I like your fantasy for naming targets :) 18:27 < mnemoc> i thought those names fit nice on those two targets 18:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... it fits very well 18:29 < mnemoc> for the other bunch of targets i can't find a good name :\ 18:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: don't worry ... time will come 18:31 < mnemoc> i would like to get suggestions, comments, etc... 18:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep ... you'll get some 18:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: today I finished my new mnemosyne rc2 desktop ... and I think I'll try xfce 18:32 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.12.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:32 < rxr> 2.1 ppc desktop also mostly finished 18:32 < morfoh> rxr: :) 18:32 < rxr> the bdb and kaffe related crap that hangs on ppc got disabled 18:32 < rxr> some fixes still to be made ... 18:32 < rxr> about 7 or 9 failed packages aside the disabled "crap" ... 18:32 < rxr> but right now I have other problems ... 18:32 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a minimal for 2.1.0-rc2? 18:33 < mnemoc> rxr: t2-related problems? 18:34 < rxr> no - OS suX getting on my nerves very badly 18:34 < mnemoc> :) 18:35 < rxr> this hobby wanna be thing some garage people in Cupertino started some years ago ... 18:35 < rxr> and like everything the USB stack is highly instable - even more so in 10.4 - and now I have angry customers on the phone wanting me to fix what once worked under 10.3 ... 18:37 < morfoh> rxr: redirect them to the garage people 18:37 < morfoh> rxr: ok ok ... this wasn't a very helpful statement 18:37 < morfoh> poor rxr 18:43 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.237] has joined #t2 18:43 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.237] has quit [Client Quit] 18:45 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.237] has joined #t2 18:48 < rxr> morfoh: yeah - that's live outside the t2 world ... 18:48 < mnemoc> :) 18:48 < rxr> the next time I'm wise enough to write the OS version in the contract and tell them - well - the contract is for 10.3 - for 10.4 you can hand extra money for debugging over ... 18:48 < mnemoc> we have to move the world into T2 paradise 18:48 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... poor live outside of t2 world :) 18:49 < rxr> the other problem is that my 5x5 convolution matrix for the other (more t2 related thing) does not work out right now ... 18:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: what versions of plone and linguaplone do you use on www3 ? 18:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 18:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: 2.1-rc2 + 0.8 ... over zope 2.8.1 19:07 < _Ragnar_> re 19:32 < morfoh> re 19:32 < morfoh> hi Ragnar 19:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: I thought they don't recommend 2.8.x 19:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: I mean, using zope 2.8.x with Plone 19:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: shouldn't we extend zope's install prefix with the version number ? what do you think ? 20:17 -!- minto [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:17 < minto> moin 20:21 < rxr> int z = sumr > 255 ? 255 : sumr < 0 ? 0 : sumr; 20:21 < rxr> ... 20:21 < valentin> re 20:22 < valentin> morfoh, rxr: helicopter-otto wants windows-virus-allert-headquaters 20:22 < rxr> ? 20:22 < rxr> windows virus what? 20:22 < rxr> is that another barely working hobby OS some freaky people are using ? 20:25 < valentin> windows are the glas-filled holes in your wall 20:25 < rxr> yeah - I wonder what virus are meant then - I hope none eating glas now ... 20:26 < rxr> valentin: do you want to look on some matrix math and tell me what typo I manged to introduce in it ? 20:27 < valentin> ahm... where ? 20:27 < rxr> my exact image hackery ... 20:28 < rxr> but - well - you have other ugly stuff to debug already .. 20:28 < rxr> my 3x3 matrix code works 20:28 < valentin> what typo where ? 20:28 < rxr> I'll find the typo in the 5x5 one 20:29 < valentin> you hardcode formula without loops ? 20:37 < morfoh> hey valentin :) 20:37 < morfoh> what does uncle otto wants ? 20:38 < rxr> phoning 20:38 < rxr> valentin: no - i have loops 20:57 < rxr> hehe - much fun writing an highlight / indenting system able to track this: 20:57 < rxr> matrix_type divisor = 20:57 < rxr> #ifdef RIGHT 20:57 < rxr> 179; 20:57 < rxr> #else 20:57 < rxr> 1; 20:57 < rxr> #endfif 20:58 < _Ragnar_> O_O 20:58 < _Ragnar_> ? 20:58 < rxr> #endif of course ... 20:58 < rxr> but anyway ... 21:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: zope 2.8.1 is ok for plone 2.1 21:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: roger that ... non chief :p 21:08 < mnemoc> :) 21:08 < valentin> re 21:09 < valentin> master mnemoc, any idea how to calm down a nervous child ? 21:09 < mnemoc> in your case, i guess only milk and a new diper helps 21:11 < valentin> we try that for a while now, but she is to nervous to drink 21:11 < mnemoc> uhm 21:11 < mnemoc> mozart :) 21:11 < morfoh> .oO( if your child is crying ... just ask child master mnemoc )o :) 21:12 < mnemoc> after some hours mozart calms any child :) 21:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: I was on tour with a 2.5 years old boy with too much energy ... that was quite heavy ... 21:12 < mnemoc> nah 21:12 < mnemoc> you get used to it 21:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't know what you're talking about ... you've girls :p 21:13 * morfoh hides 21:13 < mnemoc> :) 21:13 < mnemoc> ack, i prefer girls than boys :) 21:13 < morfoh> and the strange thing is ... if his mom is there he behaves completely different 21:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm glad to hear that you're prefering girls :) 21:15 * morfoh hides again 21:15 < mnemoc> :) 21:15 < valentin> morfoh: you are quite funny tonight :p 21:15 < mnemoc> i know you prefer boys 21:17 < morfoh> valentin: didn't you know ... I'm almost funny :p 21:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: pff ... go away 21:17 < morfoh> .oO( I already managed to build up my old wardrobe )o puuuuhhh 21:18 < morfoh> perhaps that's the reason why I'm so funny 21:20 < valentin> you should try OSX - that will funny you... 21:21 < rxr> - matrix_type v = data[x - matrix_w2 + x2, + 21:21 < rxr> + matrix_type v = data[x - matrix_w2 + x2 + 21:21 < rxr> my god 21:21 < rxr> do you want to know how much time this f*cking comma did cost me !!!!! 21:21 < mnemoc> :D 21:22 < rxr> real 0m1.904s 21:22 < rxr> user 0m1.775s 21:22 < rxr> damn - though the image is correct now - it is not too fast ... 21:23 < rxr> touch still magnitudes faster than imagemagick or gimp ... 21:24 < valentin> HHHEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPP 21:24 < rxr> real 0m0.748s 21:24 < rxr> user 0m0.623s 21:24 < rxr> sys 0m0.048s 21:24 < valentin> ah - unplugging my usb mouse saved my 21:24 < valentin> me even 21:24 < rxr> cool - -O2 and -march=athlon did a trick ,-) 21:24 < jsaw_> re 21:24 < rxr> valentin: ? 21:24 < valentin> when you speak of the devil... OSX funnied me 21:25 < valentin> the mouse was in some unusable locked state 21:25 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 21:25 < rxr> valentin: yes - I know that ... 21:25 < rxr> in OS X suddenly everything can freak out .. 21:25 < valentin> happens sometimes when you are in copy and paste mode 21:25 < rxr> I even saw a lot of rendering issues with this OpenGL alike GUI thing ... 21:25 < jsaw> did anybody start a fresh generic build? dietlibc didn't compile due to stack smashing handler...? 21:25 < valentin> hi jsaw 21:25 < jsaw> hi valentin 21:26 < valentin> janna starts complaining again 21:26 < jsaw> valentin: she's calm again? 21:26 < valentin> no 21:26 < jsaw> valentin: and carrying on her belly? 21:27 < jsaw> (sounds like acheing belly...what you described...) 21:27 < valentin> i tried that. did not help today 21:27 < jsaw> well, then just let her cry... 21:28 < valentin> i do not think she has some aching. she is just awake since 18:00 now 21:28 < valentin> and is in a bad mood 21:28 < valentin> but she does not want to sleep - eyes wide open 21:28 < jsaw> hehe 21:28 < jsaw> gimme input! 21:28 < jsaw> hehe 21:28 < valentin> yeah 21:29 < jsaw> so, anybody with a new generic build? 21:32 < mnemoc> 2.1 only 21:32 < jsaw> with ssp on? 21:33 < valentin> mnemoc: mozart didn't work out. i try rock music, seems to work :) 21:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: btw, so far I like your foo-% proposal, only the perl part... but I'll have to think a bit more about it 21:34 < jsaw> valentin: especially Marlene loves real heavy metal 21:34 < jsaw> :D 21:34 < valentin> yeah, preferably better than #ifdef-style pkgsplitings 21:34 < mnemoc> valentin: uhm danger valentin, danger 21:35 < valentin> janna likes sawing guitars, much bass, hard rythm and a voice that sounds like ten packs of cigarettes per day... 21:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: implementation is just a side efect :) 21:35 < mnemoc> valentin: in the future packages can decide to split if an argument is given.... gcc-splited :) 21:36 < mnemoc> valentin: european girls :( 21:36 < jsaw> :D 21:37 < jsaw> mnemoc: 2.1 with ssp on? 21:37 < valentin> mnemoc: i do not feed her satanic music yet. (ok, cardinal ratz would call that punk stuff satanic i guess...) 21:38 < mnemoc> jsaw: i thought ssp was default... what do you want me to try? 21:39 < jsaw> here (trunk) dietlibc failed on a fresh build, complaining that stack_smash_handler is defined multiple times (in libgcc.a as well as in dietlibc's libc)... I removed the conditional around _LIBC_DEFINES_SSP_ (or similiar) and restarted... 21:40 < jsaw> (in gcc.conf) 21:40 < rxr> SPP sucks ... 21:40 < rxr> we should not inject it for any build 21:40 < rxr> well - I might switch off now ... 21:40 < jsaw> ? 21:40 < jsaw> it is not working? or it makes too many problems? 21:41 < rxr> jsaw: too less releases and maintenenace 21:41 < valentin> radio wazee.com realy managed to put janna asleep 21:41 < rxr> and this on-and-off popping issues 21:41 < valentin> i can't believe it 21:41 < jsaw> valentin: tsts 21:41 < jsaw> rxr: ic 21:42 < rxr> ok - /me off - cu 21:42 < valentin> jsaw: her gandmom is a graduated musican, so what 21:42 < valentin> cu rxr 21:42 < jsaw> I'm leaving too... 21:42 < jsaw> valentin: great 21:43 < valentin> she studied catholic church music :) 21:43 < jsaw> cu later 21:43 < valentin> cu jsaw 21:44 < valentin> hm, next time i could try organ music by j.s.bach. Is that ok for you, mnemoc ? 21:44 < valentin> i prefer bach over mozart anyway 21:56 -!- minto [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 22:00 < mnemoc> valentin: bach is good :) 22:00 < mnemoc> valentin: and if it clams jana much better 22:04 < valentin> yeah - fixed another OSX bug... 22:05 < valentin> ok, this one was my bug 22:06 < valentin> i will reboot now, cu in some minutes 22:06 < mnemoc> cu valentin 22:06 < jsaw> re 22:13 < valentin> re 22:13 < mnemoc> do 22:14 < valentin> mnemoc: she likes toccata in d-minor.. .oO 22:14 < mnemoc> :) 22:16 < valentin> but she does not like the very high registers of that organ 22:16 < valentin> need to search a track with more woodwind pipes 22:16 < valentin> i think those high frequencies are not to nice for a baby ear 22:17 < mnemoc> that's why i use mozart 22:17 < valentin> but bach trains her math skills :) 22:18 < valentin> i listened to my mother playing bach when i was young 22:18 < mnemoc> but she has 1 month! 22:19 < valentin> i was -9 month... 22:19 < valentin> listening from my mothers belly :) 22:20 < jsaw> :) 22:21 < valentin> and live organ is an instrument you definitly feel vibrating :) 22:21 < mnemoc> :) 22:22 < jsaw> oh, due to a lot of water there's not that much damping inside womb 22:25 < valentin> and since you play church organ with hand and feet you have much movement 22:25 < jsaw> even better, yeah 22:26 < CIA-9> amery * r11127 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * finished mnemosyne's mnemosyne.pl module rules generation 22:26 < jsaw> funnily enough, babies only move when mum's not moving... 22:26 < jsaw> unborn, in mean 22:26 < valentin> hehe 22:26 < jsaw> damn, ... s/in/I/ 22:27 < valentin> quite the same once they are born. either you carry them around or they get angry eventually 22:28 < jsaw> T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation Baby Development Environment 22:28 < valentin> btw: lars will visit us tomorow with his wife and their two babies :) 22:28 < valentin> s/babies/childs 22:29 < mnemoc> :D 22:29 < jsaw> T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | We'll keep you pension safe 22:30 < valentin> jsaw: Baby Eevelopment Environment == BDE which is a permutation of BED. how true ;) 22:30 < mnemoc> :D 22:30 < jsaw> :D 22:31 < mnemoc> we should do a children gallery :) 22:31 < mnemoc> rene is excluded 22:32 < jsaw> he's too old or what? 22:32 < valentin> mnemoc: maybe you can lend him one of your childs 22:32 < mnemoc> jsaw: he doesn't have children :) 22:32 < mnemoc> valentin: i has to made his own 22:32 < mnemoc> valentin: it's quite fun anyway :) 22:33 < jsaw> :D 22:33 < morfoh> hi jsaw :D 22:33 < valentin> so many parents at this channel 22:33 < jsaw> guess we were to busy hacking when we were young and didn't listen to our parents talking aobut safer sex... 22:33 < jsaw> morfoh: hi 22:34 -!- jsaw is now known as gene_hacker 22:34 < mnemoc> :) 22:34 -!- gene_hacker is now known as jsaw 22:37 < jsaw> okay, I have to turn to my books, cu later 22:38 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 22:39 < valentin> cu jsaw 22:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: i got the usual failure on 1-dietlibc building a 2.1-minimal with SSP enabled 22:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: libgcc.a(_stack_smash_handler.oS)(.text+0x13a): In function `__stack_smash_handler': : undefined reference to `sigfillset' 22:53 < jsaw> (I should have turned to the books... but I have to correct this, solution might appear in a few seconds) 22:54 < mnemoc> :D 22:54 < mnemoc> books are bored 22:56 < valentin> i guess you mean "books are boring" ? 22:56 < jsaw> okay, build running, will take some time until I hit this point, cu later 22:57 < jsaw> (P.S.: my fix tries to make those symbols weak in libgcc so that they can be overridden, let's see if it works) 23:01 < mnemoc> valentin: my english sucks 23:02 < sparc-kly> hrrr my english sucks 23:02 < valentin> mnemoc: i find it quite good actually 23:15 < mnemoc> valentin: you are reading it :) 23:16 < mnemoc> actually i have never say a word in english since i finish school.... 9 years ago 23:16 < mnemoc> and the english level of my school was quite bad :( 23:16 < valentin> i think most of us have a terrible accent when speaking english. 23:17 < valentin> and because i know that, my speaking is even worse for psychological reasons 23:18 < mnemoc> :) 23:23 < CIA-9> amery * r11128 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (ggv/ggv.desc gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc): 23:23 < CIA-9> * merged 9747 from trunk: updated gnome-mag (0.12.0 -> 0.12.1) 23:23 < CIA-9> * merged 9742 from trunk: updated ggv (2.8.4 -> 2.8.5) 23:30 < CIA-9> amery * r11129 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (9 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10506 from trunk: updated control-center (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10524 from trunk: updated file-roller (2.10.3 -> 2.10.4) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 9753,10908,10935 from trunk: updated gedit (2.10.1 -> 2.10.5) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10511 from trunk: updated gnome-desktop (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10521 from trunk: updated gnome-games (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2) 23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 9754 from trunk: updated gnome-media (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2) 23:39 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.12.227] has joined #t2 23:39 < keinek> hi 23:39 < mnemoc> hi keinek 23:44 < morfoh> moin keinek 23:56 < morfoh> good night folks .... 23:57 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED497.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri Aug 19 00:00:00 2005