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00:04 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11421 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gcc4.patch: * fixed gimp for gcc-4.0 - inline asm patch from Fedora Core
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01:02 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11422 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (1.1 -> 1.2)
01:07 < sepp> good night all
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04:47 < keinek> hi
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06:01 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
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06:04 < CIA-4> amery * r11423 /branches/2.1/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * merged 11304 from trunk: updated mono (1.1.8.2 -> 1.1.8.3)
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07:17 < CIA-4> amery * r11424 /branches/2.1/package/develop/sloccount/tail-head.patch: * merged 10351 from trunk: fixed sloccount to use {head,tail} -n syntax
07:19 < CIA-4> amery * r11425 /branches/2.1/package/dictionary/aspell/aspell.conf: * merged 11225 from trunk: fixed aspell by adding -lm
07:20 < rxr> re
07:20 < mnemoc> moin rxr
07:21 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr.. :)
07:21 < rxr> moin mnemoc
07:21 < rxr> sleep well ,-)
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07:38 < CIA-4> rene * r11426 /trunk/package/graphic/ploticus/ (official-fixes.patch ploticus.desc): * updated ploticus (231 -> 232)
07:50 < CIA-4> rene * r11427 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
07:50 < CIA-4> * fixed archivista/install.sh to really check the filesystem, disable
07:50 < CIA-4> the cancel button of the filesystem check Xdialog --log and removed
07:50 < CIA-4> a stray else @EOF
07:52 < rxr> http://brlcad.org/
07:52 < rxr> ^- package anyone ?
09:03 < Baldzius> moin rxr
09:03 < Baldzius> i can try :)
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09:22 < morfoh> moin
09:24 < Baldzius> moin morfoh :)
09:25 < rxr> moin Baldzius and morfoh
09:25 < rxr> morfoh: mnemoc searched for you urgently ...
09:27 < morfoh> rxr: I can imagine ... the problem is, that I cannot go online atm at home. I bought new cables yesterday but I couldn't get a new powersupply fro the route :/
09:30 < valentin> moin
09:33 < morfoh> moin valentin
09:38 < rxr> moin valentin
09:41 < rxr> 1768 builds total, 1184 completed fine, 197 with errors.
09:41 < rxr> .oO
09:41 < rxr> fixes anyone=
09:41 < rxr> ?
09:41 < rxr> even
09:41 * Baldzius stucked on libsdl :)
09:42 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
09:42 < CIA-4> rene * r11428 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
09:42 < CIA-4> * removed -o sync flags from archivista/install.sh, is is that slow
09:42 < CIA-4> that it barely feels useful
09:42 < Baldzius> hi :)
09:48 < morfoh> rxr: did you disabled i.e. embutils and minised while doing the ref build ?
09:50 < rxr> nope
09:50 < rxr> why ?
09:51 < morfoh> rxr: fails here
09:51 < rxr> ah - because embutils does not build with glibc ... ,-)
09:51 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... and minised ? ;)
09:51 < rxr> fails due to embutils dir not available, right ?=
09:51 < rxr> we need to do two things:
09:51 < rxr> - fix embutils to build with any C library
09:52 < rxr> - fix the embutils, minised, pdksh, disktype packgaes to link with dietlibc by default - so all the target that right now setup this do not need to and ref. builds out of the box a initrd that works ...
09:52 < rxr> trac tickets you ?
09:52 < morfoh> rxr: yep you are right ... minised can't find the dir
09:54 < morfoh> rxr: I haven't opened tickets yet
09:54 < morfoh> rxr: should I ? ;)
09:54 < morfoh> rxr: or do you want it to do ;) ?
09:56 < rxr> ack - open
09:56 < rxr> open and assign to me
09:56 < morfoh> rxr: that was what I wanted to hear ;)
10:00 < rxr> I thought you wanted to hear "I work on it (some time this year)" ... ,-)
10:04 < morfoh> rxr: that was no question for me ;)
10:10 < rxr> ouhm
10:10 < Shingo--> hi
10:10 < Shingo--> moin
10:10 < morfoh> ok morfoh's political propaganda of the day: seems that a lot of "proofs" were faked by FBI and british secret service to blur the real traces to the terrorists which bombed down PanAM flight 103 over Lockerbie, and to write into history books that Libya was responsable for the "event"
10:10 < morfoh> moin Shingo-- :)
10:12 < Shingo--> I had open a ticket about embutils, maybe can be handle.
10:13 < rxr> morfoh: mayb I ask if you vote for someone next month - or make a big cross on the paper ?
10:14 < rxr> is it allowed to burn the paper in the voting rooms ?
10:15 < morfoh> rxr: I dunno if it's allowed to burn the paper, but I guess not
10:16 < morfoh> rxr: but to invalidate it could be an option
10:16 < valentin> morfoh, rxr: i guess you do not want to visit the dtm ?
10:16 < rxr> no
10:16 < rxr> are you sure it is worth the time and money?
10:17 < valentin> for me it is...
10:17 < rxr> have you so far visited a race live ?
10:17 < valentin> no, that is the reason why i want to do it once
10:17 < morfoh> rxr: I'm not quite sure if I'll vote a party or to void the voting paper
10:17 < rxr> I ohpe you find it not too boring
10:17 < valentin> and 4 races for Eur 25,-
10:17 < morfoh> valentin: no thank you
10:17 < valentin> morfoh: a good question
10:18 < valentin> but i think i will vote
10:18 < valentin> depending on the latest predictions.
10:19 < morfoh> btw, to switch the topic a bit ... rxr/valentin: does anyone has a portable grill ?
10:19 < rxr> hehe - nope
10:19 < valentin> nope :(
10:19 < rxr> btw. I'm in south germany this weekend
10:19 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... what'
10:19 < valentin> there are those desposable grills
10:19 < morfoh> re you doing ther ?
10:19 < rxr> (if corrupting filesystems will not consume that time ... :-()
10:19 * valentin ordering tickets...
10:20 < rxr> valentin: desposable grills? so we know you do not vote green
10:20 < valentin> rxr: just kidding...
10:21 < morfoh> rxr: I'll never vote green again ... never ever !!!!!
10:21 < valentin> so you vote yellow ?
10:21 < morfoh> rxr: f* Joseph Fischer ... f* you
10:21 < morfoh> valentin: you are kiddibng, right ?
10:21 < valentin> morfoh: you'd like to see schaeuble instead of joschka ?
10:22 < morfoh> valentin: I'd never vote Westerwelle and the "Leichtmatrosen"
10:22 < rxr> more FDP more money - guess whom I vote for ...
10:22 < valentin> i'd rather stick with otto and joseph and hans instead of dreckstein, schaeuble and kirchhof
10:23 < rxr> more FDP more business - I can't wait more contracts on my desk ... ,-
10:23 < rxr> valentin: don't forget dog merkel
10:23 < valentin> i'll vote "linkspartei" they will give everyone more money, no matter wether they are working or not ;)
10:24 < morfoh> rxr: dream on
10:25 < rxr> valentin: who? rather FDP - more money for big companies like ExactCode ..
10:25 < rxr> who cares about unemployed people ...
10:25 < rxr> is that us ...
10:26 < morfoh> rxr: "big companies" like ExactCode are worth a shit in the eyes of Guido ;)
10:26 < rxr> morfoh: but you know that I'm just joking, right ?
10:26 < morfoh> rxr: of xourse ;)
10:30 < rxr> for the next election I need some signs from you all ...
10:30 < morfoh> valentin: we're lamer ...
10:30 < morfoh> valentin: why didn't we found our own party as we discussed earlier :)
10:31 < morfoh> like the "Pogo Party"
10:31 < morfoh> they have program called "Veranda 2022" :)
10:31 < morfoh> and they want to divide germany into 3 zones
10:32 < morfoh> 1. the "productive" zone
10:32 < morfoh> 2. the "parasite" zone
10:32 < morfoh> 3. the the "warhead" zone
10:35 < rxr> I vote "Die Schaumburg Partei". display of Schaumburg on all wheather maps, one use baptistry in churches and otehr useful stuff ...
10:36 < morfoh> rxr: oh! that sounds nice
10:38 < rxr> valentin: with some hidden annoyances, I can release a fully functional AV210 driver today ...
10:38 < rxr> damn crappy ASIC that is ...
10:38 < rxr> valentin: we need ExactScanners ...
10:40 < rxr> and thy ExactCPU and so on ...
10:41 < morfoh> rxr: *snip* now become awake again :)
10:42 < rxr> valentin: have you tested the AV610 with my latest binary release?
10:51 < rxr> avision.c | 117 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------------------
10:51 < rxr> 1 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)
10:52 < rxr> why do I work that much and am not yet a milionaerr?
10:52 < rxr> millionaire even
10:53 < valentin> rxr: binary or compiled from source ?
10:53 < valentin> rxr: because you work too correct and exact for this software buissnes
10:55 < rxr> and this is why one half calls me crazzy that their el-cheapo scanners do not yet work too good and the other half that their shity hardware does cause major FS corruption blaming my 30 lines of shell-code installer ?
10:55 < valentin> that is other developers fault...
10:57 < rxr> or my decision to ship with linux and not the Object Orient, fault tolerant, micro kernel isolating every driver ExactOS ...
10:58 < valentin> rxr: i am going to reboot into OSuX in some minutes if you want
11:00 < rxr> valentin: you read that I saw another bug in this wanna be hobby os thingi ?
11:00 < rxr> yesterday the w-lan symbol was grey though I was connected ...
11:00 < rxr> no idea how they manage to introduce such bugs ...
11:00 < rxr> well - people that program statup progress bars via reference timestamping ...
11:01 < rxr> good - at least nearly all kde stuff and scribus builds with gcc-4
11:08 < rxr> valentin: I have a new version to test against in some minutes
11:12 < rxr> ok - under linux the driver is perfect now
11:12 < rxr> (except that I have to work around scanner ASIC or USB interface chip I/O issues)
11:12 < rxr> but it works (for me (tm))
11:15 < karasz> moin everybody
11:15 < rxr> moin karasz
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11:16 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
11:16 < rxr> ^- oh - I accidently commited the linear regression lines ... ,-)
11:17 < morfoh> moin karasz
11:20 < karasz> brb
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11:22 < rxr> valentin: I crahed the OSX DS
11:26 < karasz> guys is kweather in T2?
11:27 < valentin> rxr: gaah..
11:27 < valentin> karasz: isn't kweather just part of the kde applets ?
11:27 < karasz> i'll check
11:27 < valentin> karasz: otherwise just go and package it :)
11:29 < karasz> i can't find kde applets :(
11:30 < morfoh> rxr: why do we've the user mode linux patch for 2.6.6 in our uml_utilities package ?
11:30 < karasz> before i package i want to make sure that it is not included elswhere
11:30 < morfoh> I think it's obsolete
11:30 < rxr> valentin: can you take a look why in the file-save dialog of ExactScan the filename field is often not displayed with content?
11:30 < rxr> only when you click into it or so the existing filename setting is painted in this damn window ...
11:30 < rxr> morfoh: because noone updated it ...
11:31 < morfoh> morfoh: ok ... thanks for the answer ;)
11:31 < rxr> morfoh: don't talk to yourself
11:32 < rxr> morfoh: I od not care about uml stuff - if someone uses it or wants it he/she/it must keep care of it
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11:32 * rxr is the last one hunting crappy 3rd party kernel patch updates - sorry
11:32 < morfoh> rxr: sorry
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11:33 < CIA-4> chris * r11429 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/uml_utilities.desc: * updated skas3 patch for 2.6 kernels (2.6.12-rc4-v9-pre4 -> 2.6.13-rc7-v9-pre7)
11:34 < rxr> valentin: it seems we still corrupt memory or so somewhere
11:35 < morfoh> rxr: btw, regarding my self talkings ... I just asked the package maintainer ... :p
11:35 < rxr> morfoh: ,-)
11:36 < morfoh> ;)
11:38 < karasz> now i am emerging kdetoys, i guess kweather is in there...
11:42 < morfoh> brb
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11:42 < valentin> karasz: i have kweatherreport kweatherservice \
11:42 < valentin> damn
11:42 < valentin> now he left
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11:48 < morfoh> valentin: seems that karasz don't want to talk with you
11:50 < valentin> :(
11:51 < valentin> hi karasz
11:51 < valentin> karasz: i have kweatherreport kweatherservice
11:52 < valentin> but i have no idea which package, because they do not apear in my /var/adm/flist/*
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11:58 < rxr> valentin: you need to insert the OSX CD and install the Xcode Tools -> Packages 10.3.9 SDK package
11:58 < rxr> in order to build trunk in some minutes when I commit it
11:59 < rxr> so the compiled driver will continue to work with 10.3 ...
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12:10 < valentin> rxr: why do i need that update ?
12:11 < rxr> update ?
12:11 < valentin> update the Xcode tools
12:12 < rxr> you only need to install the 10.3 cross compile SDK
12:12 < rxr> 10.3.9 it is named to be exact
12:12 < rxr> otherwise you need to tocally edit your xcode project settings
12:12 < rxr> but that is unwise since when I'm away and you need to release an update driver you need to fiddle around later
12:12 < rxr> so better
12:13 < rxr> get it running now ... before the stress
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12:23 < karasz> kdetoys contains kweather
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12:29 < SerWou> good morning guys
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12:33 < morfoh> hi SerWou
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12:53 < valentin> rxr: so what do i have to do exactly ?
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13:03 < valentin> rxr: i have to leave soon... is it okay if i do this in the evening ?
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13:17 < rxr> no
13:17 < rxr> I need to know if the 610works
13:17 < rxr> with HEAD code
13:17 < rxr> and I needde to know this today and thus I asked you yesterday
13:17 < rxr> I can upload a .7 prereleae if you do not want to compile
13:19 < rxr> 1.0.7 is online now
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13:20 < rxr> ehrm - now - please reget if you have it now
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13:31 < morfoh> bbl
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13:55 < SerWou> salut morfoh
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14:03 < CIA-4> gweis * r11430 /trunk/package/develop/expect/expect.desc: * repriorized expect to let courier-authlib find it
14:05 < CIA-4> gweis * r11431 /trunk/package/network/ethereal/fix_kerberos_detection.patch: * fixed ethereal heimdal detection
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14:11 < valentin> re
14:13 < CIA-4> gweis * r11432 /trunk/package/network/tidy/ (tidy.conf tidy.desc):
14:13 < CIA-4> * updated tidy (050531 -> 050705)
14:13 < CIA-4> * tweaked priority to build before php
14:13 < CIA-4> * added tidy_docs [D] to fix build
14:17 < CIA-4> gweis * r11433 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/libsdl.desc: * tweaked libsdl priority to build before wxwidgets
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14:22 < CIA-4> gweis * r11434 /trunk/package/develop/expect/setpgid.patch: * fixed expect by using setpgid(0,0) instead of setpgrp(0,0)
14:40 < CIA-4> gweis * r11435 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/fetchmail.conf: * disable fetchmail kerberos IV support
14:41 < CIA-4> gweis * r11436 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/heimdal_compile.patch: * fix fetchmail to compile against heimdal
14:45 < CIA-4> gweis * r11437 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf: * fixed make install of busybox
15:57 < CIA-4> gweis * r11438 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/configure_create_pch.patch:
15:57 < CIA-4> * fixed wxwidgets: add -c for compiling precompiled headers
15:57 < CIA-4> (needed when --as-needed is enabled)
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16:06 [Users #t2]
16:06 [@vilkacis] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] [ sparc-kly|Univ]
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16:14 < morfoh> re hi
16:15 < morfoh> .oO( finally I repaired all the things which were destroyed by the "rat" )o
16:16 < rxr_> finally found the reason for the massiv FS corruption
16:16 < rxr_> though no yet the faulty code fragment
16:17 < morfoh> rxr_: good that is :)
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16:46 < menomc> moin
16:46 < morfoh> moin menomonkey :)
16:46 < menomc> a goddess doesn't let me change my nick :\
16:50 < menomc> jsaw: new about weak ssp?
16:50 < menomc> news*
16:51 < rxr_> moin menomc
16:51 -!- You're now known as rxr
16:51 < menomc> moin rxr
16:55 < rxr> the FS corruption I morroned about
16:55 < rxr> I found the cause
16:55 < rxr> when run from HD (as opost to from CD) the kernel uses a wrong size for the disk
16:56 < rxr> -hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB), CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(33)
16:56 < rxr> +hda: 16514064 sectors (8455 MB), CHS=16383/16/63, UDMA(33)
16:56 < rxr> has anyone an idea how this can be caused?
16:56 < rxr> of course everything after 8GB wraps wildly around
16:57 < rxr> idea anyone?
16:58 < rxr> same kernel - not same .config - the same 1:1 binary ...
16:58 < valentin> ouhm ..
16:59 < valentin> so the cd-version displays the correct size and the dumped version not ?
17:00 * valentin driving home now to test the scannerdriver
17:01 < rxr> valentin: yes
17:01 < rxr> the cd works fine and installs every perfect
17:02 < rxr> the installed kernel (the same binary) does access the disk wrong
17:02 < rxr> does only see 8Gb and wraps the remaining (or so)
17:02 < valentin> this is only on their mainboard ?
17:02 < rxr> dmesg diff:
17:02 < rxr> @@ -228,7 +228,7 @@
17:02 < rxr> ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a9d0000050aed]
17:02 < rxr> sbp2: $Rev: 1219 $ Ben Collins
17:02 < rxr> hda: max request size: 128KiB
17:02 < rxr> -hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB), CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(33)
17:02 < rxr> +hda: 16514064 sectors (8455 MB), CHS=16383/16/63, UDMA(33)
17:02 < rxr> hda: cache flushes supported
17:02 < rxr> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
17:02 < rxr> hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)
17:02 < rxr> it happens on all 3 or so test boxes they have on the table right now
17:03 < rxr> it always works for my box here ...
17:03 < menomc> uhm
17:03 < valentin> i never noticed such a thing in my live-cd-dumps, too...
17:04 < rxr> look this - same kernel version and build date:
17:04 < rxr> --- d 2005-08-31 15:24:41.000000000 +0200
17:04 < rxr> +++ d2 2005-08-31 15:33:30.000000000 +0200
17:04 < rxr> @@ -36,17 +36,17 @@ Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Allocating PCI resources starting at 0f800000 (gap: 0f800000:ef400000) Built 1 zonelists
17:04 < rxr> -Kernel command line:
17:04 < rxr> +Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000) mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000) Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order: 10, 16384 bytes)
17:04 < rxr> -Detected 1997.054 MHz processor.
17:04 < rxr> +Detected 1997.045 MHz processor.
17:04 < rxr> that is the first diff chunk - the first line with version and data is the same
17:05 < valentin> maybe that mapping above confuses the kernel
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17:16 < keinek> hi
17:21 < rxr> which mapping
17:21 < CIA-4> amery * r11439 /branches/2.1/package/e17/imlib2/e17-conf.in: * merged 10309 from trunk: enhanced e17-conf.in to allow builds of single e17 packages that do not depend on imlibe2 (e.g. epeg)
17:24 < CIA-4> amery * r11440 /branches/2.1/package/editors/ne/ne.desc: * merged 10457 from trunk: updated ne (1.39 -> 1.40)
17:25 < CIA-4> amery * r11441 /branches/2.1/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * merged 10771 from trunk: updated tea (10.0 -> 10.2)
17:25 < CIA-4> amery * r11442 /branches/2.1/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * merged 10810 from trunk: updated qemu (0.7.0 -> 0.7.1)
17:26 < CIA-4> amery * r11443 /branches/2.1/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc: * merged 11108 from trunk: updated xmame (0.97 -> 0.99)
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17:28 < karasz> re hi *
17:28 < menomc> hi karasz
17:33 < karasz> guys i have some problems with runit
17:34 < karasz> it is surely different from sysvinit :)
17:34 < menomc> what problems?
17:34 < karasz> my guess is that i have an incomplete runit on my system
17:34 < menomc> ?
17:34 < karasz> for example i do not have runsv
17:35 < menomc> on /command
17:35 < karasz> just the runit binary
17:35 < menomc> mine -l runit
17:36 < karasz> i tried to emerge it
17:36 < karasz> but it fails
17:36 < menomc> show logs
17:36 < menomc> or give precise reasons
17:37 < karasz> i will pastebin the err logs
17:37 < menomc> ok
17:38 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/351057
17:46 < menomc> make sure you have runit enabled on your Config before emerging it
17:49 < karasz> enabled runit in config now re-emerge
17:50 < karasz> now runit builds
17:51 < karasz> but still i can not find runsv and the others
17:52 < karasz> my problem is that i must start devfsd by hand which eats one of my terminals
17:52 < karasz> and i must use startx by hand which eats another terminal
17:53 < menomc> mine -l runit
17:54 < karasz> it does not find the gem file
17:54 < karasz> i have a mnemosyne build
17:54 < karasz> not the prebuilt isos
17:54 < menomc> did the emerge finished successfully?
17:54 < karasz> yes
17:54 < karasz> emerge say that is ok
17:54 < menomc> look at /var/adm/flists/
17:54 < menomc> for a runit file
17:54 < menomc> if not found, emerge it again
17:55 < menomc> if you want X you have to add a service for it
17:55 < menomc> $ cat /service/xdm/run
17:55 < menomc> #!/bin/sh
17:55 < menomc> exec 2>&1
17:55 < menomc> XDM="/usr/X11/bin/xdm -nodaemon"
17:55 < menomc> [ -e /etc/conf/xdm ] && . /etc/conf/xdm
17:55 < menomc> exec $XDM
17:55 < karasz> `i have /var/adm/runit`
17:56 < menomc> wtf?
17:56 < karasz> sorry `i have /var/adm/flists/runit`
17:57 < menomc> wc -l it
17:58 < karasz> 135
17:58 < menomc> wow
17:58 < menomc> same here :p
17:59 < menomc> why did you emerge it if you installed mnemosyne?
17:59 < menomc> btw, Emerge-Pkg is _harmfull_ on non generic targets
18:00 < menomc> you have start by recovering the config used to create the ISO and copy it on config/default
18:00 < menomc> and always -deps=none
18:01 < karasz> i emerged it because i cann not find runsv and the others and i guessed that i did something wrong when i made the isos
18:02 < morfoh> karasz: I think it's not due to some problems while creating the ISO's
18:03 < morfoh> karasz: hi, btw ;)
18:03 < karasz> not while creating ISO's ofcourse but when building the system from which i created the ISO's perhaps
18:03 < karasz> re hi, btw :D
18:04 < karasz> btw how are you morfoh ?
18:07 < menomc> karasz: did you checked /command ?
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18:19 < karasz> `/command` ?
18:19 < menomc> yes, /command
18:21 < karasz> please be more explicit
18:21 < karasz> what do you mean by /command?
18:21 < menomc> ls /command
18:23 < menomc> if you want to play with djb-like software, you have to understand their bases. http://cr.yp.to/unix.html
18:23 < karasz> click :)
18:23 < menomc> first read his portability essay
18:25 < menomc> and when you don't know where a file is, grep your flist
18:35 < rxr> re
18:57 < menomc> re rxr
18:57 < menomc> i cairo standalone or use qt/gtk behind?
18:57 < menomc> is*
18:58 < _Ragnar_> hi
18:59 < menomc> hi _Ragnar_
19:04 < rxr> menomc: you need to renick
19:04 < rxr> menomc: yep - it is a "graphic canvas"
19:04 < rxr> menomc: GTK+-2.8 does use Cairo ...
19:04 < menomc> rxr: freenode doesn't allow me
19:05 < menomc> rxr: oh
19:06 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc
19:06 < mnemoc> once identified i could change it
19:18 < rxr> 1768 builds total, 1401 completed fine, 278 with errors.
19:18 < rxr> ^- will have fun polishing for gcc-4
19:18 < rxr> especially since the lvalue casts to be fixed are so ugly ...
19:18 < rxr> oh - btw
19:19 < rxr> if I have not said so often enough - I'll be in south germany from tomorrow till monday
19:20 < mnemoc> don't forget 2.1 please
19:20 < rxr> .oO
19:20 < rxr> yeah
19:21 < rxr> I have my new 64bit subnotebook with me - and from time to time net
19:21 < mnemoc> you bought it?
19:21 < rxr> you know - south germany is some generations behind - no net everywhere - *evilgrin*
19:21 < rxr> mnemoc: yes?
19:21 < mnemoc> :D
19:22 < mnemoc> what will you do there?
19:22 < rxr> some core devel needs a x86-64 to polish the arch
19:22 < rxr> well - mostly susan is @ a company and she wants to visit friends ...
19:23 < rxr> so I only acompany her
19:23 < mnemoc> ic :)
19:23 < rxr> and do my work as good as I can off-line when not in "meeting freinds" mode
19:24 < mnemoc> *g*
19:24 < rxr> mnemoc: what hardware do you need most? laptop or some 64bit workstation thingi ?
19:25 < mnemoc> i use a fatbook from the company where i work...
19:26 < mnemoc> but i loose when i'm at home
19:26 < mnemoc> my wife takes it mostly :(
19:26 < rxr> all good - or would a 64bit number cruncher help you ?
19:26 < rxr> or an iBook?
19:27 < mnemoc> those iBooks you have are amazing
19:27 < mnemoc> what is a 64bit number cruncher?
19:28 < rxr> some x86-64 box
19:28 < rxr> well - my iBook as 2 drawbacks
19:28 < rxr> - the battery is old - it only last 1h+ anymore
19:28 < rxr> (new one 150EUR or so)
19:29 < rxr> - the fan sometimes goes to 100% - I might be able to get Apple repair that
19:30 < rxr> no idea if you want that
19:33 < mnemoc> if i can plug it, very welcomed :D
19:33 < rxr> plug ?
19:34 < mnemoc> AC
19:34 < rxr> oehm - what do you have over there ?
19:35 < rxr> 110 V ?
19:35 < mnemoc> 220
19:36 < rxr> so?
19:36 < rxr> same here ... 50Hz ?
19:37 < rxr> well - the iBook has this tiny odds ... - I better sell it to some unknown @ebay and send s.th. that holds longer to you ...
19:37 < rxr> like even a new one if you want powerpc ...
19:38 < mnemoc> uhm
19:39 < rxr> yes?
19:40 < mnemoc> it's up to you... i'm open to anything ;)
19:42 < CIA-4> rene * r11444 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
19:42 < CIA-4> * reverted insane paranoia changes in archivista/install.sh, problem
19:42 < CIA-4> is BIOS/kernel interaction bug to be work arounded via BIOS setting
19:42 < CIA-4> and later kernel fixes
19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: well - the iBook is EOL and thus I got the x86-64bit subnotebook
19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: the thing has this tiny drawbacks ...
19:43 < rxr> mnemoc: is collecting stuff for a x86-64bit number cruncher or a laptop more useful for you ?
19:43 < valentin> rehi
19:43 < valentin> rxr: can you paste the url of the driver in private query ?
19:44 < rxr> valentin: ?
19:44 < valentin> i thought you uploaded a new binaru
19:45 < mnemoc> rxr: hard to say.... i guess the laptop
19:46 < rxr> valentin: I though you know our usual locatoins
19:46 < rxr> locations
19:46 < rxr> see query
19:46 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
19:46 < rxr> if I would know how long the iBook will last ...
19:46 < mnemoc> then the number cruncher :)
19:47 < rxr> this does not exclude getting some other "longer ot live" lappi for you ...
19:47 < rxr> mnemoc: just think the next days and tell us
19:48 < mnemoc> an ibook may improve a lot my inhouse relations and also let me work more there
19:48 < valentin> rxr: i found it
19:50 < valentin> so i try 1.0.8
19:54 < rxr> yep
19:55 < rxr> inhouse relations ?
19:55 < rxr> ah - you mean hand that toy to your wife ?
19:56 < mnemoc> :)
19:57 < mnemoc> an i can play while she is not using it
19:57 < rxr> hm - ok - then I get the thing to repair to hopefully get them to do sometigng to stop the fan turning to 100$
19:57 < rxr> 10%
19:57 < rxr> ouhm
19:57 < rxr> 100%
19:57 < rxr> seems I need a break
19:57 < rxr> the fan thing is annoying and indicates some deeper real issue ...
19:57 < mnemoc> *G*
19:58 < mnemoc> what kind of issue?
19:58 < rxr> the only problem left then would be that the battery is EndOfLife
19:58 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea what issue
19:58 < rxr> maybe the mainboard has again some serial fault - it was once replaced already ...
19:58 < rxr> maybe the power management chip - guess that controls the fan ...
19:58 < rxr> I hope the german keyboard will work out ...
20:00 < mnemoc> iirc the only real oddity on .de keyboard is the letter bellow the a
20:01 < morfoh> re
20:02 < rxr> ifconfig output is a pain to parse
20:02 < morfoh> rxr: drop me a note if you intend to send sth. to chile
20:02 < valentin> 2005-08-31 20:00:46.774 ExactScan[352] CFLog (21): Error loading /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib: error code 0, error number 2 (dyld: /Users/valentin/Desktop/ExactScan.app/Contents/MacOS/ExactScan can't open library: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
20:02 < valentin> )
20:02 < valentin> seems i need to install 10.4 for testing
20:03 < mnemoc> rxr: there is a perl wrapper that clones ifconfig with iproute2 backend
20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: hehe
20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: some sed regex does as well
20:05 < rxr> mnemoc: only need it for archivista network-status.sh ...
20:05 < CIA-4> rene * r11445 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network-status.sh:
20:05 < CIA-4> * included T2/Archivista build version in and further prettyfied
20:05 < CIA-4> archivista/network-status.sh
20:09 < CIA-4> rene * r11446 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:09 < CIA-4> * adapted target/archivista sudoers rules and fluxbox menu to execute
20:09 < CIA-4> network-status.sh as root (needed for ethtool)
20:09 < morfoh> ok ... I'll go. cu
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20:10 < CIA-4> rene * r11447 /trunk/target/archivista/ (build.sh build_image.sh build_initrd.sh): * added CD creation date injection to target/archivista (untested)
20:11 < rxr> btw. today I told Archivista GmbH about out t2-powered.net plans ...
20:12 < CIA-4> rene * r11448 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.init: * fixed mysql.init fix to use D_localstatedir instead of D_datadir (ouhm)
20:13 < mnemoc> sponsoring? :)
20:14 < rxr> hehe - don't think so - but 2nd project after menmosyne or so ,-)
20:18 < mnemoc> i would gladly do if some day i get the money to pass the week
20:18 < rxr> ok - /me packing
20:18 < mnemoc> enjoy rene
20:19 < rxr> guess every few hours my cell will ring - either complaining about FS corruption, yet some other mysql.init issue - or someone coplaining about scannner I/O problems under this OP suX
20:19 < mnemoc> :(
20:35 < valentin> rxr: you will leave tomorow ?
20:36 < rxr> yep
20:36 < valentin> oh
20:36 < valentin> i understood you would be gone this weekend...
20:36 < valentin> have much fun
20:37 < rxr> valentin: what is the touchy scanenr doing?
20:37 < rxr> I told them it works better now ...
20:37 < rxr> because some lazzy person in the company did not provide feedback in time ...
20:37 < rxr> or did I tell them it works perfectly ...
20:37 < rxr> well - s.th. like that at least
20:40 < valentin> AvisionDS_Prefix.pch:6:28: Cocoa/Cocoa.h: No such file or directory
20:40 < valentin> ?????
20:42 < valentin> so i need to install the toolkit to compile
20:43 < rxr> you need to install the 10.3.9-SDK to compile
20:43 < rxr> and do not forgot to clean all before building ...
20:43 < rxr> test with the binary first ...
20:43 < rxr> oh - you build on 10.3 ?
20:44 < rxr> well - you could then also just reconfig the target settings and set it to native again .m..
20:44 < rxr> if you run 10.3 please test the binary
20:44 < rxr> it is important to know if the 10.4 non-native build binaries work on it ...
20:44 < valentin> rxr: your binary does not run under 10.3 as mentioned above..
20:45 < valentin> 2005-08-31 20:00:46.774 ExactScan[352] CFLog (21): Error loading /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib: error code 0, error number 2 (dyld: /Users/valentin/Desktop/ExactScan.app/Contents/MacOS/ExactScan can't open library: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
20:45 < valentin> )
20:46 < valentin> i only have libstdc++.a ?!
20:47 < rxr> damn crap
20:47 < rxr> not good
20:47 < rxr> we have on customer using 10.3 ...
20:48 < valentin> hmhm
20:48 < valentin> why is there no .so for 10.3 ?
20:48 < valentin> this looks quite strange
20:48 < rxr> just revert the .xcode change and builds ...
20:49 < rxr> most stuff on osx is not dyn linked
20:49 < valentin> yep
20:49 < rxr> that is normal
20:49 < valentin> typicall for comercial systems
20:49 < valentin> this is why every little program eats my ram
20:57 < rxr> ok - have fun testing - I'll read when I'm @ susan
20:57 < rxr> cu all
20:58 < valentin> rxr: first test worked
20:58 < rxr> 1768 builds total, 1441 completed fine, 282 with errors.
20:58 < valentin> second test too
20:58 < valentin> rxr: any special wish ?
20:59 < rxr> multple scans
20:59 < rxr> app exit and reopen
20:59 < valentin> ok
20:59 < rxr> that are the hard cases
20:59 < rxr> and if you have some minutes - really work with it
20:59 < rxr> the driver or ExactScan crashed on my twice today ...
21:00 < valentin> hm, you are right
21:00 < valentin> i just closed the dialog w/o exiting exactscan. and when i did a new scan it seems to lock sth up
21:01 < rxr> does it work after say leaving it 10 seconds alone ?
21:02 < valentin> i got an io error
21:03 < rxr> retry
21:03 < valentin> rxr: you mean withoud closing anything in this 10 seconds ?
21:03 < rxr> I mean now you got the i/o error
21:04 < rxr> well - soon you will tell me more ... ,-)
21:05 < rxr> also you might like to compare with linux to see the real behaviour of the i/o core ...
21:05 < rxr> cu soon
21:05 < valentin> cu
21:06 < valentin> rxr: i allways have it after closing the dialog
21:06 < valentin> without closing it i can do as much previews as i want
21:08 < Baldzius> Found shared files with other packages:
21:08 < Baldzius> usr/share/man/man2/fgetxattr.2: attr man-pages
21:08 < Baldzius> how to fix that?
21:14 < valentin> Baldzius: find out which package that file rightfully belongs to and wrap install so the other file is copied to another location
21:22 < Baldzius> valentin: attr package conflicts with man-pages
21:22 < Baldzius> just don't know what to do
21:22 < Baldzius> i can easily remove those files
21:23 < Baldzius> to pass i
21:23 < Baldzius> to pass i
21:23 < Baldzius> t
21:23 < Baldzius> :)
21:37 < Baldzius> gg i am stupid :)
21:37 < Baldzius> but still don't know how to fix that
21:39 < valentin> Baldzius: there are other packages that feature an install_wrapper for similar reasons. i have no t2 source handy right now, and i cannot tell the syntax of hand
21:39 < valentin> maybe you grep -i install_wrapper package/*/*/*.conf
21:45 < Baldzius> hm nothing
21:45 < mnemoc> rehi
21:50 < Baldzius> removed man-pages, installed attr and then again installed man-pages
21:50 < mnemoc> uhm?
21:51 < Baldzius> mnemoc: i had problem installing attr
21:51 < mnemoc> don't let man-pages install fgetxattr.2
21:52 < Baldzius> how?
21:52 < Baldzius> i don't know how i had it
21:52 < mnemoc> one option is just remove the file on preconf
21:52 < mnemoc> from the untar-ed dir
21:52 < mnemoc> another option is to use install_wrapper to rename it
21:53 < mnemoc> in this case i would prefer the first :)
21:53 < Baldzius> with hook?
21:53 < mnemoc> yes
21:54 < mnemoc> i guess man-pages' Makefile simply loop on available files
21:54 < mnemoc> removing the file, nothing installed, problem solved
21:56 < Baldzius> thanks, i will look around to learn more about that install_wraper
21:56 < Baldzius> first time hear it :)
21:56 < Baldzius> never noticed
21:57 < Baldzius> if you are doing package's version bump and nothing else change , you do patch against .desc only?
21:57 < mnemoc> it simply apply sed to the output
21:58 < mnemoc> yes
21:58 < mnemoc> sh misc/archive/Update.sh package version
21:58 < Baldzius> not svn diff?
21:58 < mnemoc> sure
21:58 < mnemoc> send svn diff
21:59 < mnemoc> Update.sh is to update locally
21:59 < mnemoc> the .desc which later you will diff and send
22:00 < Baldzius> one more: i should ask for version bump or send to ML diff by myself?
22:00 < mnemoc> just send the diff, with your name, mail address and a description of what the patch does
22:01 < Baldzius> ok get it
22:01 < Baldzius> thanks for all :)
22:01 < mnemoc> :)
22:24 < valentin> rxr: strange, i do not even have to scan at all in the first take to produce an ioerror in the second one
22:37 < rxr> re
22:37 < rxr> valentin: yes, that is known
22:38 < rxr> though I thought this thing would be fixed
22:38 < rxr> unfortunatly I have no time right now
22:38 < rxr> can you run with SANE_DEBUG_AVISION=8 and send me te resulting output to my mail account ?
22:38 < rxr> resulting output of "start - close - reopen" for such an error case ...
22:41 < valentin> ok
22:45 < rxr> n8 all
22:47 < valentin> gn8 rxr
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23:04 < morfoh> re hi
23:06 < Baldzius> hi :)
23:07 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
23:07 < morfoh> Baldzius: Still awake ?
23:07 < Baldzius> yeah downloading jre :)
23:08 < morfoh> Baldzius: h*ly sh*t :)
23:08 < Baldzius> whant to install azureus
23:09 < morfoh> Baldzius: what is it ?
23:09 < Baldzius> torrent client
23:09 < Baldzius> best for me
23:16 < CIA-4> chris * r11449 /branches/2.1/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * merged 10143,10186,10797,11110,11396: updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc8 -> 0.9.0-rc14)
23:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
23:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: hey companero :)
23:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: thought I'll help you a bit merging stuff before going to sleep ;)
23:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least my prelude stuff, because we've some important changes in trunk
23:21 < mnemoc> sure, go for it.... and push narcisse
23:28 < mnemoc> rxr: building the same package at the same time destroyes ccache :(
23:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... I experienced sth. like that too ... and ccache sometime gave me a lot of troubles
23:30 < mnemoc> linux26 without ccache takes 70m here, with ccache 15, but two linux26 in parallel 214m :\
23:33 < CIA-4> chris * r11450 /branches/2.1/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * merged 10144,10798,11111,11397: updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc13)
23:35 < CIA-4> chris * r11451 /branches/2.1/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * merged 10187: updated prelude-lml (0.9.0-rc4 -> 0.9.0-rc5)
23:39 < CIA-4> chris * r11452 /branches/2.1/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * merged 10799,11112: updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc6 -> 0.9.0-rc8)
23:42 < CIA-4> chris * r11453 /branches/2.1/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * merged 10270,10826,11113: updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc10)
23:46 < CIA-4> chris * r11454 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc10 -> 0.9.0-rc11)
23:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I'll test latest prewikka tomorrow at work ... and perhaps after succesful testing merging the last update into branch
23:51 < CIA-4> chris * r11455 /trunk/package/develop/cheetah/cheetah.desc: * updated cheetah (0.9.17 -> 0.9.18)
23:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: same with cheetah
23:52 < mnemoc> :)
23:53 < mnemoc> brb
23:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: we've to exclude .pyc files from flist checks
23:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: it causes some problems while updating a package afais
23:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: hopefully you're not away for getting some coke or sugar :p
23:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: or even both :p
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