--- Log opened Wed Sep 07 00:00:28 2005
00:00 < mnemoc> jsaw: use 2.1 ;)
00:00 < mnemoc> or branch 2.2 :\
00:01 < jsaw> :)
00:01 < mnemoc> valentin: hi.... can you make rc3 ppc isos?
00:19 < valentin> mnemoc: we do not even have rc2 isos for ppc yet :(
00:19 < valentin> too bad rxr had to send the 1.8Ghz iMac back
00:19 < mnemoc> :(
00:19 < mnemoc> minimal? :(
00:20 < valentin> and my ibook is easy overloaded and i have to reboot into OSX some times
00:21 < mnemoc> beta3 is too ancient for ppc users :\
00:21 < valentin> if you convince rxr not to request my help with the driver work for some time i could do a build :)
00:21 < mnemoc> hehe
00:45 < jsaw> cu later
00:46 < valentin> FUCK THE HOUSE NEXT TO OUR HOUSE IS BURNING
00:47 < _Ragnar_> O_O
00:47 < _Ragnar_> stock up on water buckets
00:48 < valentin> i fear water buckets will not help here :(
00:49 < valentin> a hundred spectator zombies are there already
00:49 < valentin> grr theese guys make me angry
00:50 < valentin> i'd better do some preparations in case the fire spreads
00:55 < _Ragnar_> O_O
00:55 < _Ragnar_> yea do that
01:24 < jsaw> valentin: ?
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01:35 < mnemoc> valentin: still there?
01:36 < mnemoc> valentin: you have to give me ISOs before dieing!
01:40 < valentin> yeah
01:41 < valentin> mnemoc: in case my computers burn, there will be no iso anyway
01:41 < valentin> situation seems under controll
01:41 < mnemoc> save your computers!
01:42 < mnemoc> is your house wet?
01:42 < valentin> no
01:42 < valentin> our house is not affected
01:42 < valentin> (yet)
01:43 < valentin> if we were in danger i would not sit here and talk to you
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02:09 < valentin> gn8 and please wake me up in case you think my computer burns
02:16 < mnemoc> i will
02:16 < mnemoc> try to sleep valentin 
02:16 < valentin> thanks
02:16 < valentin> cu
02:21 < mnemoc> cu
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02:54 < CIA-4> ragnar * r11562 /trunk/package/kde/arts/arts.desc: * arts needs -fPIC on x86_64
02:55 < CIA-4> ragnar * r11563 /trunk/package/network/transconnect/transconnect.desc: * transconnect needs -fPIC on x86_64
02:56 < CIA-4> ragnar * r11564 /trunk/package/dictionary/aspell/aspell.desc: * added fpic-quirkiness to aspell
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05:43 < CIA-4> amery * r11565 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-dirtree.conf: * fixed java-dirtree because libdir has to be overwritten _after_ set_confopt
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09:34 < Baldzius> moin
09:47 < owl> moin
10:30 < rxr> re
10:32 < rxr> mnemoc: I have -rc3 isos for PPC
10:36 < rxr> rsync (finally) started
10:54 < CIA-4> chris * r11566 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * fixed download URL for util-vserver
10:59 < CIA-4> chris * r11567 /branches/2.1/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * merged 11566: fixed download URL for util-vserver
11:00 < CIA-4> chris * r11568 /branches/2.1/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * merged 10104: updated libfwbuilder (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
11:01 < CIA-4> chris * r11569 /branches/2.1/package/security/fwbuilder/fwbuilder.desc: * merged 10105: updated fwbuilder (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
11:04 < CIA-4> chris * r11570 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (dietlibc/parse-config-9 procps/termios.h.patch): * merged 10760: fixed procps to compile with dietlibc and statically
11:05 < CIA-4> chris * r11571 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/inkscape/inkscape.desc: * merged 10720: updated inkscape (0.41 -> 0.42)
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11:06 < morfoh> moin
11:07 < rxr> mon morfoh 
11:12 < morfoh> moin rxr ... how is it today ? safely returned from south ? ;)
11:13 < rxr> yep
11:13 < rxr> but overworked
11:13 < rxr> had to sleep long today
11:14 < morfoh> oh! sometimes you can't screw your body infinitely 
11:19 < rxr> so - data sheet request sent to Ricoh
11:19 < rxr> let's see how they support us ... ,-)
11:20 < rxr> (/me needs to write a driver for the card reader bridge ... of my laptop)
11:22 < morfoh> rxr: so you want to start writing Ricoh drivers too ?
11:29 < valentin> moin
11:31 < rxr> morfoh: nope - just the few remaining bits to get card reading working
11:31 < rxr> the PCMCIA stuff is working
11:31 < rxr> just not the card reader part ...
11:32 < morfoh> moin valentin 
11:32 < rxr> hi valentin 
11:32 < rxr> your house is still there?
11:33 < morfoh> oh! did I missed sth. ?
11:33 < rxr> morfoh: some fire last night
11:33 < morfoh> oh! 
11:33 < morfoh> valentin: everything fine with you and your girls ?
11:34 < rxr> morfoh: the house nearby burned - not their house - but I just wanted to ask if all is still ok
11:34 < morfoh> ah! ok ... 
11:37 < morfoh> damn ... why the hell Config is screwing up my custom linux.cfg that often ... f*
11:37 < Baldzius> :)
11:38 < valentin> morfoh: we were not affected
11:38 < valentin> breakfast, cu later
11:38 < rxr> morfoh: because the Config is that old properitary ROCK code that we urgently need to replace ...
11:38 < valentin> rxr: do you have a driver ready ?
11:38 < rxr> due to a) speed reasons b) destruction reasons ...
11:38 < rxr> valentin: minuts ...
11:38 < morfoh> rxr: btw, while building cpio I found that it doesn't compile mt.c ... so we'Ve no mt command 
11:39 < morfoh> moin Baldzius ... why are you laughing bad boy :)
11:39 < Baldzius> moin morfoh, had same issue with that config :)
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11:41 < morfoh> rxr: because we patch away rmt from cpio in favour of tar's rmt implementation, I've tried to build cpio from vanilla sources but same problem
11:44 < rxr> morfoh: no idea
11:44 < rxr> if you miss it, enable it in cpio until someone notifies us about a issue with that ...
11:45 < morfoh> rxr: the problem is _not_ "rmt" ... it's "mt", but anyway I'll check the Makefiles
11:46 < rxr> I know
11:47 < morfoh> rxr: but what do you mean with "enabling it in cpio" ?
11:47 < rxr> the missint mt ...
11:48 < morfoh> rxr: but normally it should be build by default, and I couldn't find problems in the Makefile after a first quick view
11:49 < morfoh> rxr: or do you know a configure option to enable it ?
11:49 < rxr> does cpio even use configure? ,-)
11:49 < morfoh> rxr: yep
11:49 < rxr> well - no idea - I would need to review that myself ...
11:49 < rxr> what is mt doing even= ?
11:50 < morfoh>  mt - control magnetic tape drive operation
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11:53 < rxr> we have mt-st ...
12:08 < jsaw> re
12:08 < rxr> hi
12:09 < jsaw> hi rxr 
12:09 < morfoh> rxr: oh! ... ok I've not seen it ... thanks rxr
12:09 < jsaw> all fine @ valentin's?
12:09 < morfoh> hi jsaw 
12:09 < jsaw> hi morfoh 
12:22 < rxr> ???
12:22 < rxr> Britischer Microsoft-Sicherheitschef von Dialer betroffen
12:22 < rxr> Ed Gibson, bei Microsoft UK f? 1/4 r Sicherheit zust??ndig, klagte bei einer Konferenz ? 1/4 ber eine Telefonrechnung von umgerechnet 665 Euro, die durch einen Dialer verursacht wurde.
12:22 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63677
12:27 < rxr> Windows Vista: Microsoft nennt Hardware-Anforderungen
12:27 < rxr> Dual-Core-Prozessor, 1 GByte Arbeitsspeicher, eine Grafikkarte mit 256 MByte RAM und SATA2-Festplatte.
12:27 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0509/40285.html
12:27 < owl> hahahahaha
12:27 < owl> @ms-chef
12:28 < rxr> I thought that would be the optimal T2 build system ... ,-)
12:28 < owl> ack. but ms is a bit "groessenwahnsinnig"? ;)
12:30 < rxr> T2 commercial: "Do you just want to burn CPU power due to incompetent programs? Or have a smooth GUI while the system is recompiling and optimizing itself? Grab your T2 copy today!"
12:31 < valentin> rxr: it works
12:31 < karasz_> hello guys
12:31 < owl> rxr: that's a bit agressive :) 
12:31 < valentin> at least the gui shows up. should i plug in the scanner ?
12:31 < owl> hi karasz_ . not guys only
12:31 < karasz_> and girls :)
12:31 < owl> thx ;)
12:32 < rxr> valentin: good
12:32 < rxr> damned Xcode ...
12:32 < rxr> valentin: so I release that, now - right ?
12:32 < valentin> cu in some minutes...
12:32 < valentin> yeah, do so :)
12:32 < rxr> good 
12:32  * rxr shuting down OS suX ...
12:34 < rxr> so - re
12:35 < morfoh> hi karasz_ guy and owl girl :)
12:36 < owl> hi morfoh 
12:36 < owl> wb rxr 
12:39 < karasz_> hi morfoh 
12:39 < karasz_> long time no C
12:39 < karasz_> how are you?
12:40 < morfoh> karasz_: thanks, quite fine ... and you ?
12:40 < karasz_> so and so...
12:40 < morfoh> karasz_: what happened ?
12:40 < karasz_> I broke a ribb :)
12:41 < morfoh> karasz_: oh! really ? what have you done ?
12:42 < karasz_> I felt on a bath sink
12:42 < karasz_> slipped on water
12:42 < karasz_> kind of stupid accident :D
12:42 < morfoh> karasz_: sh*t ...
12:43 < morfoh> karasz_: didn't I told you that you shouldn't do any "artistic" moves in a bath sink ?
12:43 < karasz_> how can i regain my Nick without leaving?
12:43 < morfoh> ;)
12:44 < morfoh>  /nick yournick
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12:44 < karasz> thnx
12:44 < karasz> morfoh: i didn't listen
12:44 < karasz> but i will in the future :D
12:44 < karasz> no more "artistic" stuff in the bath
12:45 < morfoh> karasz: good :)
12:45 < karasz> anyway it was for the better
12:45 < karasz> i had time to study a new device
12:45 < karasz> a PDT6846
12:45 < karasz> from Symbol
12:45 < karasz> heard of it?
12:47 < morfoh> rxr: btw, did anyone contacted you regarding the sponsoring issue ?
12:48 < morfoh> rxr: brb
12:49 < rxr> morfoh: no
12:56 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll do a phone call then asking for any news 
12:57 < morfoh> ok ... *ladies* _and_ *gentlemen* ... I've to go. cu later
12:59 < rxr> cu morfoh 
13:00 < morfoh> cu 
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13:07 < karasz> cu guys and girls later
13:09 < CIA-4> rene * r11572 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.14.0 -> 7.14.1)
13:09 < CIA-4> rene * r11573 /trunk/package/editors/ne/ne.desc: * updated ne (1.40 -> 1.41)
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13:09 [@vilkacis] [ CIA-4 ] [ lewellyn1] [ nzg] [ SerWou   ] [ valentin] 
13:09 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw  ] [ mnemoc   ] [ owl] [ Shingo-- ] 
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13:13 < CIA-4> rene * r11574 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.4-2 -> 6.2.4-4)
15:03 < CIA-4> rene * r11575 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.desc: * updated php (5.0.4 -> 5.0.5)
15:07 < rxr> Libtool 1.5.20 (Stable)
15:19 < rxr> osnews.com down with cannot connect to mysql ...
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16:18 [Users #t2]
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16:30 < mnemoc> rxr: ppc isos of tagged rc3?
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16:31  * mnemoc thinks morfoh is hiding from him
16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: no - slithgly before
16:47 < mnemoc> btw, can you exclude incoming/mnemoc on mirror sync?
16:48 < mnemoc> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/incoming/mnemoc/
16:48 < mnemoc> or rsync using -H :p
16:49 < rxr> mnemoc: it is not synced to mirrors ...
16:50 < mnemoc> thanks :)
16:52 < mnemoc> rxr: can you upload them stating the revision?
16:52 < rxr> hm - or it is ...
16:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ohem ...
16:52 < mnemoc> o.o
16:55 < rxr> incoming excluded
16:55 < rxr> it appears the binary sync was not running for some time already :_(
16:55 < mnemoc> oh
16:59 < mnemoc> rxr: if you update your iso to incoming/mnemoc i can improve my release.sh to handle interim ISOs
17:00 < mnemoc> rxr: having a new ppc ISO, what will we do with beta ISOs?
17:00 < rxr> I usually kept them for reference for some time
17:00 < mnemoc> ok
17:02 < valentin> rxr, mnemoc : i am installing rc2 on a gericom right now
17:02 < mnemoc> :)
17:07 < rxr> sent 2753601370 bytes  received 592 bytes  3693631.07 bytes/sec
17:07 < rxr> total size is 11387821519  speedup is 4.14
17:07 < rxr> ^- nexus binary mirror synced again ... ,-)
17:08 < mnemoc> :)
17:13 < valentin> mnemoc: can you give me a package list for rc2 cd1 ?
17:14 < valentin> how many packages are there after kdelibs ?
17:15 < mnemoc> # grep '^X' config/desktop/packages | wc -l
17:15 < mnemoc> 596
17:15 < mnemoc> # grep '^X' config/desktop/packages | grep -n kdelib
17:15 < mnemoc> 223:X -----5---- 128.900 kde kdelibs 3.4.2 / extra/development extra/desktop/kde FPIC-QUIRK 0
17:17 < mnemoc> valentin: iso index is at http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0-rc2/t2-desktop/pmmx/t2-desktop-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx_index.txt
17:20 < valentin> hm, why the heck are the packages installed in non-lexicographical order ?
17:20 < valentin> linux* was installed before kde*
17:21 < valentin> and koffice was installed before kdelibs
17:21 < mnemoc> prio order?
17:21 < mnemoc> uhm
17:40 < mnemoc> http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html
17:46 < valentin> mnemoc: it installs packages in reverse order
17:46 < valentin> so 00-dirtree is the last one from cd1
17:47 < mnemoc> ehm
17:53 < valentin> am i the first to notice this ?
17:54 < mnemoc> i remember an old discussion on ROCK about install order
17:54 < mnemoc> but i don't remember the facts and conclusions :p
17:55 < valentin> mnemoc: what kind of bad fake is this atomchip ?
17:56 < mnemoc> no idea, i saw that url on another channel
17:56 < mnemoc> very puzzling
17:57 < rxr> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
17:59 < mnemoc> you have that?
18:05 < rxr> nope - just from a email from lars
18:05 < valentin> driving home, cu
18:06 < valentin> rxr: airport extreme ?
18:06 < rxr> ack
18:06 < rxr> but not yet fully functional
18:06 < valentin> :)
18:06 < rxr> only first test code ...
18:06 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - yes - I have one - in my mac mini
18:06 < mnemoc> :)
18:06 < rxr> but I do not really care - it is on the desk and thus has a wire attachde
18:06 < mnemoc> *g*
18:07 < rxr> why the the heck should I flood my office with wifi without the need to ...
18:07 < rxr> (more bandwith for the real wireless devices ...)
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18:09 < valentin> cu later
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18:14 < rxr> cu val
18:19 < CIA-8> rene * r11576 /trunk/target/archivista/config.patch: * more configuration for the archivista code
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18:21 < mnemoc> rxr: who is the other archivista commiter?
18:26 < rxr> the owner of the company in the switzerland
18:26 < rxr> we need t2-powered.net soon ,-)
18:27 < mnemoc> yes!
18:28 < mnemoc> and i need disk space :(
18:29  * mnemoc deleting stuff to be able to create desktop-rc3-pmmx iso
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18:44 < mnemoc> rxr: i have a pseudo-forge trac based running at geeks.cl, with project, svn and ns autocreation but i'm having troubles with global autentication (damn cookie prefixes)
18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/create.sh.txt
18:47 < mnemoc> using mod_python you need to trust project admins, but we could use cgi interface and use suexec
18:48 < rxr> .oO
18:48 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope you do the project that guruantee your families living before t2 hackery ... ,-)
18:48 < mnemoc> yes, but with the opensource illness :(
18:48 < mnemoc> http://modelling.geeks.cl/
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19:02 < rxr> illness ?
19:03 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. if you need low level image enhancement and empty page detection code that is 10-20x faster than imagemagick:
19:03 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/exact-image/trunk/
19:03 < mnemoc> :D
19:03 < rxr> though is is low-level C just hacked to work
19:04 < mnemoc> :D
19:05 < rxr> clean beauty C++ code with real classes later on
19:06 < rxr> mnemoc: why python ?
19:07 < mnemoc> i noticed with python all OOP trickery is far easier
19:07 < mnemoc> but i'm suggering to get used to it :\
19:07 < mnemoc> suffering*
19:08 < mnemoc> i need to generate usefull clip code from an xml model in the next two weeks :(
19:08 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch package/network/ndiswrapper/ | patch -p1
19:09 < mnemoc> oh
19:09 < rxr> oh ?
19:09 < mnemoc> isn't that the thing to use windows drivers on linux?
19:10 < rxr> yes
19:10 < rxr> and I commit a package in some minutes
19:10 < rxr> (after intensive testing)
19:10 < rxr> need to get my sub-notebooks w-lan crap chip running soon ...
19:10 < rxr> thus this ndis "project evil" package
19:10 < mnemoc> [11:57:52] <rxr> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
19:10 < rxr> but I'll invest free minutes to reverse engeneer this crap chip ...
19:10 < rxr> mnemoc: that is not my chip
19:11 < mnemoc> :)
19:11 < rxr> that was what many people, incuding new style Apple stuff has ...
19:11 < rxr> lards emailed me about
19:11 < rxr> my mac mini has this - but I do not care as I wrote since it has a wire ...
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19:11 < rxr> my sub-notebook has a cisco ipn 2220 or so
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19:11 < _Ragnar_> moin
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19:12 < rxr> linksys / cisco inprocomm ipn 2220
19:14 < rxr> == 19:10:01 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.13 2.2.0-alpha].
19:14 < rxr> -> Parallel build using 2 jobs enabled.
19:14 < rxr> -> JAVA_HOME set to blackdown-jdk
19:14 < rxr> this JAVA_HOME is a bit ste{ay,ange}
19:14 < rxr>  str{ay,ange}
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19:15 < mnemoc> rxr: it choose the most comercial version available
19:16 < mnemoc> rxr: we could hide the message if you think it's good
19:17 < rxr> mnemoc: there is no way to display this message if the package will use it ?
19:17 < rxr> if no just leave the message ...
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19:18 < CIA-8> rene * r11577 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/unionfs.desc: * updated unionfs (1.0.13 -> 1.0.13-cvs) - fixes compilation with linux-2.6.13
19:18 < mnemoc> how can i know a priori if the package will use it?
19:18 < mnemoc> parse-config just set the envvar
19:20 < mnemoc> we could do a dep group for java compilers....
19:24 < rxr> flag ...
19:25 < rxr> ok - leave it this way
19:27 < mnemoc> ooo is a mess
19:27 < mnemoc> 125 failed due to an error compiling a c# component
19:27 < mnemoc> wasn't ooo a C+java thing?
19:28 < mnemoc> in a couple of month we will need haskell to build that crap
19:32 < rxr> yeah ...
19:32 < rxr> ooo is one of the worst things the commercial world built up ...
19:32 < rxr> few things, like e.g. windows or dos are even more evil, but ...
19:33 < _Ragnar_> SDL_yuv_mmx.c:113: error: can't find a register in class 'GENERAL_REGS' while reloading 'asm'
19:33 < _Ragnar_> hmm o_o
19:33 < _Ragnar_> gcc error?
19:34 < mnemoc> i got that on linux-vserver
19:34 < mnemoc> package got selfconfigured to use dietlibc
19:34 < mnemoc> but Build-Pkg overwrote CC to use gcc
19:36 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I think more likely a stricter gcc(-4.0)
19:36 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we had this on #t2 already
19:36 < rxr> with noone wanting to look into that yet
19:36 < rxr> I think one would just need to specify clobbers differently - or push / pop the register to clobber less
19:36 < mnemoc> rxr: glib 2.8 to trunk?
19:37 < rxr> is there=
19:37 < rxr> is there even
19:37 < rxr> no
19:37 < rxr> mnemoc: do you want it on trunk ?
19:38 < mnemoc> it claims to be backward compatible
19:38 < mnemoc> and 2.2 will have gnome 2.12 anyway ;)
19:39 < rxr> hehe
19:39 < rxr> mnemoc: update whatever you feel to
19:39 < mnemoc> glib released 2.8.1 and many gtk packages are releasing 2.8 stuff
19:39 < mnemoc> thanks :)
19:39 < rxr> I downdate if it conlides
19:39 < mnemoc> pff :\
19:39 < mnemoc> trunk is agile!
19:39 < rxr> like e.g. neon or s.th. else I had to downdate recently ...
19:39 < mnemoc> yes yes
19:43 < mnemoc> waimea doesn't support new cairo api yet :\
19:45 < rxr> yes yes yes
19:46 < mnemoc> :p
19:59 < CIA-8> rene * r11578 /trunk/package/network/acx100/configure.patch: * fixed acx100 to not sleep 5 seconds due warnings
19:59 < mnemoc> o_O
20:08 < rxr> yeah
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20:09 < morfoh> re
20:10 < mnemoc> it's is alive!
20:12 < mnemoc> hi hidding-morfoh
20:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: companero! do you mean me with "it" ? ;)
20:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: good to see you :)
20:13 < mnemoc> yes :)
20:18 < rxr> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin+rubensstr&ll=52.469756,13.342531&spn=0.004340,0.010050&t=h&hl=en
20:18 < rxr> ^- in the case you want to see the satelite picture of my location ,-)
20:20 < rxr> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin&ll=52.500431,13.366499&spn=0.004337,0.010050&t=h&hl=en
20:20 < rxr> ^- susan's area ...
20:22 < owl> streets. many streets
20:22 < CIA-8> rene * r11579 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ (6 files): * added ndiswrapper (1.3rc1)
20:22 < mnemoc> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-34.184613,-70.717707&spn=0.023878,0.064497&t=k&hl=en   :(
20:24 < mnemoc> you can get 10x closer over berlin than over rancagua
20:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: but it's quite green there
20:25 < rxr> yeah
20:25 < _Ragnar_> all the spy sattelites trained there
20:25 < rxr> but there is also no map view of berlin ...
20:26 < CIA-8> rene * r11580 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/no-depmod.patch: * added fogotten no-depmod.patch to the ndiswrapper
20:27 < rxr> mnemoc: lovely green it is over there
20:27 < rxr>  /we dinner
20:27 < CIA-8> amery * r11581 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.6.6 -> 2.8.1)
20:27 < owl> wodka? *offering bottle* makes the green and grey things seeing tot so clear ;)
20:27 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
20:28 < CIA-8> amery * r11582 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.6.10 -> 2.8.3)
20:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: how have you been lostboy?
20:34 < CIA-8> amery * r11583 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.8.2 -> 1.10.0)
20:34 < CIA-8> amery * r11584 /trunk/package/gnome2/atk/atk.desc: * updated atk (1.9.0 -> 1.10.1)
20:35 < CIA-8> amery * r11585 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygtk/pygtk.desc: * updated pygtk (2.6.3 -> 2.8.0) - again, this time with glib 2.8 on trunk
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21:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
21:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
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22:32 < rxr> n8 all
22:33 < owl> gn8 rxr 
22:33 < CIA-8> amery * r11586 /trunk/package/gnome2/atk/atk.desc: * updated atk (1.10.1 -> 1.10.3)
22:34 < CIA-8> amery * r11587 /trunk/package/gnome2/at-spi/at-spi.desc: * updated at-spi (1.6.4 -> 1.6.6)
22:35 < CIA-8> amery * r11588 /trunk/package/audio/esound/ (esound.conf esound.desc): * changed esound download location to use gnome.org directly (to be able to translate later)
22:36 < CIA-8> amery * r11589 /trunk/package/gnome2/gail/gail.desc: * updated gail (1.8.4 -> 1.8.5)
22:37 < CIA-8> amery * r11590 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/gconf.desc: * updated gconf (2.10.1 -> 2.12.0)
22:37 < CIA-8> amery * r11591 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.10.1 -> 2.12.0)
22:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11592 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkdoc/gtkdoc.desc: * updated gtkdoc (1.3 -> 1.4)
22:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11593 /trunk/package/develop/intltool/intltool.desc: * updated intltool (0.30 -> 0.34.1)
22:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11594 /trunk/package/gnome2/libbonobo/libbonobo.desc: * updated libbonobo (2.8.1 -> 2.10.1)
22:39 < CIA-8> amery * r11595 /trunk/package/gnome2/libbonoboui/libbonoboui.desc: * updated libbonoboui (2.8.1 -> 2.10.1)
22:39 < CIA-8> amery * r11596 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnome/libgnome.desc: * updated libgnome (2.10.1 -> 2.12.0.1)
22:39 < CIA-8> amery * r11597 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomecanvas/libgnomecanvas.desc: * updated libgnomecanvas (2.10.2 -> 2.12.0)
22:40 < CIA-8> amery * r11598 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeui/libgnomeui.desc: * updated libgnomeui (2.10.1 -> 2.12.0)
22:40 < CIA-8> amery * r11599 /trunk/package/gnome2/orbit2/orbit2.desc: * updated orbit2 (2.12.2 -> 2.12.4)
22:40 < owl> mnemoc: you're in patching-mood? ;)
22:40 < CIA-8> amery * r11600 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc: * updated pkgconfig (0.18.1 -> 0.19)
22:41 < mnemoc> owl: relaxing mode :)
22:41 < owl> mnemoc: relaxing? O_O /me fears mnemoc and crosses the fingers :)
22:42 < mnemoc> *g*
22:48 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: Apply patch /TOOLCHAIN/package/gnome2/glib/we-know-how-to-use-a-compiler.patch ... fails ... uhm do you test the updates at all before committing or am I out of sync?
22:48 < owl> omfg. what a path *feeling hit of it*
22:49 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: to trunk i commit first, test later
22:49 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: to let others fix if i'm slow
22:50 < _Ragnar_> so someone finds one package breaks all else, so he reverts, but on next update you commit the new, breaking version again?
22:51 < mnemoc> no, t2-2.2 will have gnome 2.2 so we have to fix and not revert
22:51 < mnemoc> 2.12
22:52 < _Ragnar_> :PPP
22:52 < mnemoc> and after i finish improving Create-PkgUpdPatch i'll update the rest of gnome 2.12
22:52 < mnemoc> platform is updated, desktop and bindings will come
22:53 < valentin> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin&ll=52.509078,13.504547&spn=0.003251,0.007440&t=k&hl=en
22:53 < valentin> re
22:53 < mnemoc> valentin: your city is very brown
22:54 < CIA-8> ragnar * r11601 /trunk/package/archiver/taper/install_man.patch: * make taper create cat8 directory if not present
22:54 < valentin> if you scroll a bit upwards there is a sudden change in color and contrast
22:54 < valentin> you have to zoom out a bit
22:55 < valentin> the high resolution picture is almost brown, i do not know why
22:58 < mnemoc> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin&ll=52.534863,13.444090&spn=0.037893,0.129484&t=k&hl=en <--- wieird contrast
23:00 < valentin> yeah, the low-res sat pictures are much darker
23:01 < mnemoc> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-34.178364,-70.736246&spn=0.206148,0.517937&t=k&hl=en <--- mnemoc at 5km
23:01 < mnemoc> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin&ll=52.509078,13.504547&spn=0.151662,0.517937&t=k&hl=en <--- valentin at 5km
23:03 < valentin> the river looks quite interessting when zooming in
23:05 < valentin> too bad there is not much mapdata outside us and uk
23:05 < mnemoc> ack
23:05 < valentin> let's wait a year and everything will be cool :)
23:06 < mnemoc> :)
23:07 < valentin> one can see the continental plate borders in the satilite view:
23:07 < valentin> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=15.199386,-94.812012&spn=10.540080,15.238037&t=k&hl=en
23:10  * mnemoc wonders what did they merge there
23:13 < valentin> fascinating site this google map thing.
23:13 < valentin> but now back to some work
23:14 < mnemoc> they should have invested more on [map]
23:15 < valentin> well, the us cities are quite detailed
23:15 < valentin> i think they will throw in more data
23:16 < valentin> creating an detailed map of the whole earh is an expensive and time consuming task
23:19 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: master fixer, don't you want to fix waimea to current cairo?
23:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11602 /trunk/scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch: 
23:38 < CIA-8> * improved scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch to only patch [V] and [D] (and aliases)
23:38 < CIA-8> * improved scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch to detect (and update) versioned download locations
23:41  * mnemoc can happily update using .md5 file of bundles now :)
23:43  * mnemoc back to work
23:44 < mnemoc> valentin: lars triggered a gcc/ppc bug while building 1-linux26/unionfs on branches/2.1 .... if you have a minute... please :)
23:45 < valentin> this is a one-minute fix:
23:45 < valentin> -X unionfs
23:45 < valentin> +O unionfs
23:45 < valentin> :p
23:45 < mnemoc> :-)
23:48 < valentin> when is unionfs beeing build ?
23:49 < mnemoc> inside linux26, during postlinux
23:50 < mnemoc> exporting an SDEDEBUG var you can skip kernel build and go directly to third-party modules
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