T2 IRC Log: 2005-09-17

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--- Log opened Sat Sep 17 00:00:32 2005
00:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: how legal this license is? http://jeenyus.net/~budney/linux/software/syslogger.html
00:17 < morfoh> let me see
00:21 < morfoh> I think Len Budney's interpretation is right ;)
00:21 < morfoh> Don't Bother Dan :)
00:22 < mnemoc> *g*
00:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's what I read between the lines of Dan's statements too
00:25 < CIA-9> amery * r11924 /branches/2.1/ (scripts/config.in target/router/config.in):
00:25 < CIA-9> * merged 10691 from trunk: improved config.in to autoapply target/pkgsel.{sed,awk,in}
00:25 < CIA-9> * merged 11293 from trunk: changed router target to not apply pkgsel.sed, because it's automagic now
00:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: and do reallythink that a person like djb would kill you for good coding style you learned from his code ;)
00:27 < mnemoc> :)
00:28 < morfoh> so "Don't Bother Mnemoc" :)
00:29 < mnemoc> o.o
00:29 < morfoh> mnemocsyne is licensed under the "DBM"
00:31 < mnemoc> mnemosyne is GPL owned by T2-project
00:32 < Baldzius> :))))))))))))))))
00:32 < morfoh> oh! Baldzius ... still awake :)
00:32 < Baldzius> not for long :)
00:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: but also DBM-License :p
00:33 < mnemoc> you bother enough :p
00:34 < morfoh> thanks :|
00:34 < Baldzius> :)
00:54 < Baldzius> ok guys, good night :)
00:55 < morfoh> good night Baldzius :)
00:57 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius
01:01 < morfoh> A surprisingly large number of hosts are not able to determine the own hostname, or reverse lookup adresses on the own local network. Don't bother asking about such problems ? fix your DNS.
01:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: ?
01:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: just a snipped out of samhain handbook ... you see it's also licensed under the "DB*" license ;)
01:18 < mnemoc> o.o
01:20 < morfoh> already setting up a fresh mnemosyne ids box ... to see what's missing regarding configuration issues
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01:20 < CIA-9> amery * r11925 /branches/2.1/ (misc/tools-source/fl_wrapper.c.sh scripts/Build-Tools): * merged 11229 from trunk: improved fl_wrapper to deny writing outside basedir in stages 0,1 (except /dev/null and /tmp)
01:21 < _Ragnar_> jk
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01:21 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: ?
01:22 < _Ragnar_> wrong channel
01:22 < mnemoc> :)
01:25 < CIA-9> amery * r11926 /branches/2.1/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * merged 9484,10828 from trunk: cleaned up Emerge-Pkg code and output
01:26 < owl> gn8
01:26 < mnemoc> gn8 owlita
01:26 < morfoh> gn8 owl
01:26 < owl> gn8 mnemoc , morfoh
01:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: what kind of backup system do you have in mind for mnemosyne2 ?
01:35 < mnemoc> rsync!
01:35 < mnemoc> :p
01:35 < morfoh> tape backups ?
01:35 < mnemoc> rene added some packages to handle tapes reciently
01:35 < morfoh> mt-st
01:35 < mnemoc> that thing
01:36 < morfoh> yes ... then we need .choice
01:37 < morfoh> rsync = Minimal Network Backup ?
01:37 < mnemoc> ?
01:37 < mnemoc> rsync should not be excluded for other backup methods i guess
01:38 < morfoh> ok ... rsync is a tool anyway ;)
01:38 < morfoh> nice tool
01:38 < morfoh> but I like bacula for bigger environments
01:39 < mnemoc> download/mirror/i/ipsec-tools-0.6.1.tar.bz2.cksum-err (2748302245)
01:40 < morfoh> HEAD?
01:40 < mnemoc> yep
01:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, bacula is quite nice to backup windooze hosts too
01:42 < mnemoc> so bacula will be _the_ 'Network Backup Support' tool
01:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack
01:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: download/mirror/i/ipsec-tools-0.6.1.tar.bz2.cksum-err (2748302245)
01:43 < mnemoc> Baldzius!!
01:45 < mnemoc> -[D] 1805316234 ipsec-tools-0.6rc1.tar.bz2 http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ipsec-tools/
01:45 < mnemoc> +[D] 1805316234 ipsec-tools-0.6.1.tar.bz2 http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ipsec-tools/
01:45 < mnemoc> sweet
01:45 < morfoh> :)
01:46 < mnemoc> Baldzius: you forgot to change checksum on your ipsec-tools patch
01:46 < CIA-9> chris * r11927 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * fixed forgotten -ck-sum
01:47 < mnemoc> thanks
01:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: yw
01:58 < morfoh> gn8
01:58 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh
01:58 < mnemoc> please ask narce tomorrow
01:58 < mnemoc> please :)
01:58 < morfoh> we'll meet tomorrow I think :)
01:59 < morfoh> cu
01:59 < mnemoc> cu
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04:25 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: you about?
04:30 < CIA-9> amery * r11928 /trunk/package/base/runit/ (runit.conf stone_mod_runit.sh): * added a very basic (runsvstat) stone module
04:31 < mnemoc> runit+ :/
04:34 < ojh> Hi. Anyone here know how to adjust the GTK font size when no GNOME session manager is running?
05:02 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: yes
05:02 < CIA-9> amery * r11929 /trunk/package/base/runit/stone_mod_runit.sh: * improved stone/mod_runit to show a menu for each service with some stats
05:03 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: do i need to put those packages into a directory? or do i just put them in the root of the dvd?
05:04 < _Ragnar_> doesn't really matter
05:04 < _Lewellyn> ok :)
05:08 < _Lewellyn> i should be dealing with the upgrade all day tomorrow. wish me luck! ;)
05:09 < _Ragnar_> good luck :)
05:19 < mnemoc> good luck! ;)
05:27 < CIA-9> amery * r11930 /trunk/package/base/runit/stone_mod_runit.sh: * improved stone/mod_runit to update service stats on each loop, and to control doing u,d and h
05:36 * _Lewellyn heads off to be rested
05:36 < mnemoc> same do i
05:36 < mnemoc> gn8
05:38 < _Lewellyn> nite
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09:19 < valentin> moin
09:21 < Baldzius> good morning
09:22 < Baldzius> mnemoc: oops :)
09:23 < valentin> moin Baldzius
09:25 < Baldzius> moin valentin
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10:44 < minto> hi folks
10:46 < valentin> moin minto, how are you ?
10:47 < minto> I am fine, how about you and your family :)
10:48 < minto> Hmm,
10:48 < minto> Downloading binutils:download/mirror/b/binutils-2.16.91.0.3.tar.bz2 ...
10:48 < minto> ERROR: Found download/mirror/b/binutils-2.16.91.0.3.tar.bz2.cksum-err.
10:48 < minto> ERROR: That means that we downloaded the file already and it had an
10:48 < minto> ERROR: incorrect checksum. Remove the *.cksum-err file to force a
10:48 < minto> ERROR: new download of that file.
10:50 < minto> Hmm, must be some download glitch, second download was succesfull.
10:52 < minto> .oO
10:53 < minto> Might there be something wrong with the download script?
10:53 < minto> This is the second time I get this. Binutils was the first, now mysql
10:53 < minto> Finished downloading 17074439 bytes in 49.229 seconds (346838.000 bytes/sec).
10:53 < minto> bzip'ing gzip file + cksum-test: download/mirror/m/mysql-4.1.14.tar.gz
10:53 < minto> ./scripts/Download: line 774: src/down.20225.lst: Onbekend bestand of map
10:53 < minto> ./scripts/Download: line 763: src/down.20225.lst: Onbekend bestand of map
10:53 < minto> ./scripts/Download: line 774: src/down.20225.lst: Onbekend bestand of map
10:57 < minto> Gotta go now cu all later
11:13 < valentin> re
11:13 < valentin> oh, cu minto
11:20 < valentin> minto: the "remove *.cksum-err" thing is considered to be a feature ...
11:21 < valentin> no idea what this "Onbekend bestand of map" is. I guess onbekend means unknown ...
11:37 < rxr> re
11:45 < CIA-9> rene * r11931 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/sendmail.desc: * updated sendmail (8.13.4 -> 8.13.5)
11:58 < CIA-9> rene * r11932 /trunk/package/editors/zile/ (. zile.cache zile.desc): * added zile (2.2.7)
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12:10 < CIA-9> rene * r11933 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target:
12:10 < CIA-9> * fixed Build-Target's fuser invocation, detecting concurrently
12:10 < CIA-9> running builds, to not use absolutes pathes and thus hit the
12:10 < CIA-9> max argument list constraint with the current package count
12:11 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 380: /usr/bin/fuser: Argument list too long
12:11 < rxr> ^- ...
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12:28 < minto> HI all
12:29 < valentin> hi mintom, rxr
12:29 < valentin> minto even
12:30 < minto> valentin: I know the .cksum-err is a feature, but I did expect to the package would download without failure.
12:31 < minto> I wiped the checksum in the .desc file and downloaded again. Generating a new checksum actually resulted in the same checksum as before.
12:31 < minto> So probably the download itself flipped a bit somewhere.
12:35 < rxr> hm - new e17 packages to do:
12:35 < rxr> ? express
12:35 < rxr> ? e-modules
12:35 < rxr> ? enscribe
12:35 < rxr> ? eclair
12:36 < valentin> minto: i think you need that one: http://www.it-cleaner.de/index.htm
12:36 < valentin> too bad it's windows only
12:38 < minto> hehe
12:38 < minto> I guess the sourcecode is really easy, just one NOP
12:39 < minto> and lot's of positive thinking :)
12:42 < valentin> if you are lucky, it wount install it's backdoors into the system and leave your banking account untouched :)
12:46 < rxr> valentin: zile is a tiny emacs clone - only including basic editing and eating a few kB ...
12:47 < minto> Hi rxr, how are things going?
12:49 < rxr> oh - so far so good ,-)
12:49 < rxr> I can not complain - though a bit too much OSX hackery ... if you ask me ...
12:49 < rxr> minto: of is your new Java job going?
12:49 < minto> Doesn't sound too good.
12:49 < minto> My new assignment is doing well.
12:50 < minto> One of the few projects that are on schedule :)
12:51 < minto> Have to build a system for organising fire arms and permits.
12:52 < rxr> ,-)
12:53 < minto> Anything exiting happened recently in regard to T2?
12:53 < minto> How is the 2.1 release doing?
13:13 < valentin> rxr: did you try that zile thing ?
13:21 < rxr> start and exit - yes
13:21 < rxr> and mark buffer ..
13:26 < rxr> valentin: do you have knowledge in perl memory leak tracking?
13:26 < rxr> (or anyone else here ... ,-)
13:37 < CIA-9> rene * r11934 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase/kdebase.conf: * fixed kdebase to be able to use libsmbclient
13:38 < valentin> perl debuging ? nope ...
13:38 < valentin> bbl
13:38 < CIA-9> rene * r11935 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/e17-conf.in:
13:38 < CIA-9> * fixed e17-conf.in to touch the ChangeLog before running
13:38 < CIA-9> autogen.sh since automake invocation need a ChangeLog
13:38 < CIA-9> that is sometimes missing in e17 packages ...
13:38 < rxr> minto: how went your plan to rent a flat near your new work for you and your family ?
13:39 < minto> rxr: For next friday we rented a summer house for two weeks to give it a try.
13:40 < minto> If we like it, we consider buying it :)
13:40 < rxr> ,-)
13:40 < rxr> sound nice
13:40 < rxr> +s
13:41 < rxr> oh - we only have 30+ hours left to get to 12000 ... ,-)
13:41 < rxr> need to hury ..
13:42 < minto> Why hurry?
13:42 < minto> Why need to get to 12000 this weekend?
13:43 < rxr> I was joking that we will reach 12000 this week, soo ... ,-)
13:43 < rxr> 4 more e17 packages are waiting for the test build to finish for commit ,-)
13:46 < minto> Finally I found a picture of the summer house. I hope the site works for you (it's dogslow in firefox).
13:47 < minto> http://www.landal.nl/template1.aspx?cp=parkcontentalgemeen1&menu=parken&mid=parkenalgemeen&contentcode=algemeen&parkcode=WGN
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13:51 < morfoh> moin
13:51 < minto> hey morfoh
13:51 < rxr> moin morfoh
13:51 < rxr> minto: nope - no picture - maybe I miss some plugin or so
13:51 < morfoh> hey minto, rxr :)
13:51 < SerWou> good afternoon
13:51 < minto> hi SerWou
13:51 < SerWou> hello minto
13:51 < morfoh> SerWou: bonsoir :p
13:52 < minto> rxr: I will try to find a better one
13:52 < SerWou> bonsoir morfoh ;)
13:52 < morfoh> ;)
13:52 < rxr> minto: nah - I could boot windows or osx - or setup IE in wine again ,-)
13:53 < SerWou> -- bad words has been detected -- ;)
13:54 < minto> Try this one
13:54 < minto> http://www.funda.nl/recreatie/detail_fotos.asp?1=1&sfProvincie=OV&objectVolgNummer=0&sfPrijsMin=0&sfPrijsMax=1000000000&obj_GUID=%7BCF4D4006%2DEE52%2D49AF%2DA541%2DAE18DEE356C2%7D&crrentChoices=&crrentTotal=19&zid=532189&searchmode=normaal&sfPlaatsID=7203&paginaVolgNummer=1
13:54 < minto> rxr: It even has pictures of the interior
13:55 < morfoh> SerWou: ack -- locating source --
13:56 * minto thinks morfoh is a police wanne be :)
13:56 < rxr> minto: this one http://images.funda.nl/woningen/img/03/03095/0309580092501e0000027201.jpg ?
13:56 < minto> nope
13:56 < minto> http://images.funda.nl/woningen/img/04/04170/041700047670000010000001.jpg
13:57 < rxr> ah - much better ,-)
13:57 < minto> rxr: this one it the interior
13:57 < minto> http://images.funda.nl/woningen/img/04/04170/041700047670000080000000.jpg
13:57 < rxr> the first was what I got on your URL
13:57 * morfoh thinks minto is no police wannabe -- he is an agent --
13:57 < rxr> ,-) lovly summer house ,-)
13:58 < minto> :D
13:58 < morfoh> rxr: btw, what are you doing atm. sharing photos ? :)
13:58 < minto> this is the same house from the back
13:58 < minto> http://images.funda.nl/woningen/img/04/04170/041700047670000030000000.jpg
13:59 < minto> rxr I think morfoh is jealous. He wants your attention too. :)
13:59 < rxr> hehe
13:59 < morfoh> minto: nah!
13:59 < rxr> morfoh: well - I hack - minto is thinking about moving near to his current work ,-)
14:00 < minto> morfoh. the pictures are the summerhouse I intend to stay in.
14:00 < morfoh> rxr: ic ic ...
14:00 < rxr> valentin: in contrast to this ugly hacked nvi - zile runs on x86-64 - nvi is crashing strangely there
14:01 < morfoh> minto: where is your current work ?
14:01 < rxr> morfoh: I have ugly stuff on my weekend TODO, fixing CUPS (...), archivista hackery and OSX hackery ... including layouting colorful PR material for ExactCode
14:01 < minto> in Meppel :)
14:01 < minto> morfoh: I will try to find a map.
14:02 < minto> morfoh: this is the route I now drive daily
14:02 < minto> http://www.routenet.nl/maps/map_172_22_2_1_1508_4673622_9627191.gif
14:03 < morfoh> The page cannot be found
14:03 < minto> Strange. I can click it.
14:03 < rxr> .o(same here=
14:03 < rxr> =
14:03 < rxr> ) ...
14:04 < morfoh> rxr: MS IIS ... error message ?
14:07 < rxr> HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
14:07 < morfoh> minto: but Meppel sounds funny ... then we can call you "Meppel Minto"
14:08 < morfoh> rxr: btw, are there an planned T2 related PR events in the near future ?
14:08 < morfoh> any
14:09 < rxr> morfoh: Linux Worl Expo in November
14:09 < rxr> Linux World Even ...
14:10 < minto> Okay, this one should work
14:10 < minto> http://multimach.dyndns.org/t2/trunk/regressions/
14:10 < rxr> oh - and there are those LInux Info Tage in Berlin - guess we should try get there ...
14:10 < minto> http://10.0.0.67/t2/trunk/regressions/route.gif
14:10 < rxr> minto: ack - works
14:10 < morfoh> minto: yep
14:11 < morfoh> minto: but Meppel seems to be in the middle of nowhere
14:11 < minto> Yepp
14:13 < morfoh> minto: then you can buy Merlin an own horse :)
14:13 < minto> This is route from the summer house
14:13 < minto> http://10.0.0.67/t2/trunk/regressions/short-route.gif
14:14 < minto> Merlyn already has one
14:14 < morfoh> minto: I guess ... it's called Minto :p
14:14 < minto> hehe, schaukelpferd
14:16 < morfoh> does anybody know a nice wysiwyg-like XML/docbook editor ?
14:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11936 /trunk/package/e17/express/ (. express.cache express.desc): * added express (2005-08-29)
14:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11937 /trunk/package/e17/e-modules/ (. e-modules.cache e-modules.desc): * added e-modules (2005-08-29)
14:23 < CIA-9> rene * r11938 /trunk/package/e17/enscribe/ (. enscribe.cache enscribe.desc): * added enscribe (2005-08-29)
14:23 < CIA-9> rene * r11939 /trunk/package/e17/eclair/ (. eclair.cache eclair.desc): * added eclair (2005-08-29)
14:24 < CIA-9> rene * r11940 /trunk/package/e17/elation/ (. elation.cache elation.desc): * added elation (2005-08-29)
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15:04 < CIA-9> rene * r11941 /trunk/package/printing/cups/cups.desc: * removed stray T2 Project from maintainer line in cups.desc
15:10 < CIA-9> rene * r11942 /trunk/package/printing/cups/cups.conf: * fixed cups.conf to correctly use var_append, screwed up by clifford in r2778!
15:24 < valentin> re
15:25 < valentin> rxr: i will leave soon ...
15:25 < CIA-9> rene * r11943 /trunk/package/printing/cups/cups.conf:
15:25 < CIA-9> * removed formerly unfunctional group and user setting of cups,
15:25 < CIA-9> because it barely works
15:25 < rxr> ok valentin cu
15:38 < valentin> cu
15:49 < minto> rxr: How do I create a patch file that adds an empty dir?
15:49 < minto> I extracted an archive twice (tada and tada.orig) added a subdir to tada.
15:50 < minto> unfortunately diff -u does not get me a proper patch/diff file.
15:53 < rxr> minto: patch does not handle directories ...
15:54 < minto> Yuck, now I need a t2 hook
16:02 < rxr> hook_add preconf 5 "mkdir ..."
16:07 < minto> :) Perfect, now it builds.
16:10 < CIA-9> msluis * r11944 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in:
16:10 < CIA-9> * added antopts to support additional command line args while
16:10 < CIA-9> building java ant projects.
16:11 < CIA-9> msluis * r11945 /trunk/package/java/commons-httpclient/ (. commons-httpclient.conf commons-httpclient.desc): * added Jakarta commons-httpclient (2.0.2)
16:11 < minto> :) Later maybe more, but I gotta go now
16:11 < minto> cu later
16:16 < rxr> cu minto
16:16 < rxr> have fun
16:30 < mnemoc> moin
16:31 < morfoh> rxr: moin mnemoc
16:31 < mnemoc> moin morfoh, rxr
16:33 < mnemoc> morfoh: did you try 'stone runit'?
16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: nope
16:34 < rxr> cups is soo great - it throws away the precious data and list this status: "Print file accepted - job ID 1017."
16:34 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
16:34 < mnemoc> moin cups
16:34 < morfoh> :)
16:34 < rxr> mnemoc: best merge this fuser arg list fix into stable after review and test
16:34 < rxr> 12:10 < CIA-9> rene * r11933 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target:
16:34 < rxr> 12:10 < CIA-9> * fixed Build-Target's fuser invocation, detecting concurrently
16:34 < rxr> 12:10 < CIA-9> running builds, to not use absolutes pathes and thus hit the
16:34 < rxr> 12:10 < CIA-9> max argument list constraint with the current package count
16:34 < rxr> 12:11 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 380: /usr/bin/fuser: Argument list too long
16:35 < mnemoc> oh
16:45 < rxr> mnemoc: how are you ?
16:47 < mnemoc> tired, ill, but fine.... and you?
16:47 < mnemoc> (can you upload e17 files to gsmp?)
16:47 < rxr> ill ?
16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: the files will show up automatically (I hope) - do you need them faster?
16:49 < mnemoc> i can wait
16:49 < mnemoc> bronchitis
16:50 < mnemoc> i'll disable my cron 'updater' for a few hours
16:53 < mnemoc> rxr: on r6629 you broke links ;)
16:55 < rxr> oh?
16:55 < CIA-9> rene * r11946 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.86.2 -> 0.87)
16:56 < mnemoc> for 'graphics' it need libpng,libjpeg,pkg-config, etc.... and you disable de conditionals which are 'met' when you have a 'valid' graphic env
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16:57 < mnemoc> i guess i'll directly check for linpng
17:02 * mnemoc wonders about adding elinks
17:03 < rxr> elinks ?
17:05 < mnemoc> it's a fork more 'featured'
17:06 < mnemoc> i don't know if the 'e' is 'experimental' or 'enhanced' but... ;)
17:09 < mnemoc> here: http://elinks.or.cz
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17:26 [@vilkacis ] [ Baldzius] [ mnemoc] [ nzg] [ SerWou ]
17:26 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9 ] [ morfoh] [ owl] [ valentin]
17:26 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr]
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17:26 < valentin> hi mnemoc
17:28 < CIA-9> amery * r11948 /branches/2.1/scripts/Build-Target: * merged 11933 from trunk: fixed Build-Target's fuser invocation to reduce the length of arguments list
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17:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: alive?
17:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: sort of
17:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: ?
17:58 < mnemoc> i want to remove net-tools, what else than hostname and netstat do you need from there?
17:59 < mnemoc> and you have been looking for this: http://trash.net/~reeler/iacd/
18:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: arp ?
18:01 < mnemoc> does bridging tools require _that_ arp?
18:02 < morfoh> mnemoc: nope
18:02 < mnemoc> what does arp you can't do with 'ip n' ?
18:02 < mnemoc> aaa.... my link is almost unusable these days!! .... yuck yuck
18:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: remove net-tools including arp I think ip is sufficient
18:05 < mnemoc> netstat is missing
18:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, iacd looks nice
18:05 < mnemoc> but i found http://trash.net/~reeler/nstats/
18:05 < mnemoc> from the same author ;)
18:06 < mnemoc> his bmon (http://people.suug.ch/~tgr/bmon/) looks also very nice
18:06 < rxr> cups code:
18:06 < rxr> * Welcome to hackville, where we map CMYK data to the
18:06 < rxr> * light inks in draft mode... Map blue to light magenta and
18:06 < rxr> * cyan and green to light cyan and yellow...
18:06 < morfoh> yes .. indeed :)
18:06 < mnemoc> rxr: o.o
18:08 < rxr> http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/hipr/html/sobel.html
18:08 < rxr> ^- just for valentin
18:08 < valentin> thx
18:09 * mnemoc silently open the url
18:10 < rxr> mnemoc: it was not a note to hide - just to save your time not opening it ,-)
18:10 < rxr> mnemoc: you are free edding object detection to the mac driver as well if you like to ,-)
18:10 < rxr> adding
18:10 < mnemoc> *g*
18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: for a sheba citizen (BOOT=none) iptables? iproute2? i guess not
18:36 < mnemoc> rxr: any suggested name for rc3? i want to send the announcement
18:38 < rxr> "Toasted Badger" ??
18:40 < rxr> or
18:40 < rxr> "Iced Badger" ??
18:41 < mnemoc> i'm trying to see what 'Badger' means but my links _sucks badly_
18:42 < mnemoc> why toasted or why iced?
18:45 < mnemoc> i guess i like toasted, because 'iced' can be closer 'frozen' or 'dead' for the project
18:45 < mnemoc> toasted is more like cooked, or worked
18:46 < mnemoc> valentin,morfoh,jsaw: comments about that name for rc3?
18:46 < valentin> hm ... :/
18:47 < valentin> sleeples
18:47 < valentin> sleepless
18:47 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://yersinia.sourceforge.net/
18:47 < mnemoc> valentin: you are sleepless or rc3 was? :)
18:48 < valentin> both :)
18:52 < CIA-9> amery * r11949 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * updated lighttpd (1.4.3 -> 1.4.4)
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19:31 < rxr> mnemoc: the badger is a joke about Ubuntu naming ...
19:32 < rxr> Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Preview Release
19:57 < mnemoc> rxr: :D
20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www3.t2-project.org/Members/amery/announce/2.1.0-rc3/
20:05 < valentin> driving home, cu later
20:05 < mnemoc> cu valentin
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20:13 < rxr> mnemoc: looks good ,-)
20:14 < mnemoc> rxr: can you create and publish the tarball?
20:14 < rxr> mnemoc: sure
20:15 < rxr> export running
20:21 < morfoh> re ...
20:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: some wishes regarding producing ISO's ?
20:23 < mnemoc> morfoh: what do you mean?
20:24 < mnemoc> propose a phrase
20:24 < morfoh> rc3 ?
20:24 < mnemoc> propose a phrase
20:25 < morfoh> h*ll what do you mean ?
20:26 < mnemoc> some wishes regarding producing ISO's <---- a phrase on the announce mail or a request for you to finally make an athlon-xp iso?
20:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: well, of course I asked if I should create some ISO's :p
20:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: sure
20:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: that's what the tagging phase is meant for
20:30 * morfoh is quite
20:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you please produce minimal and desktop isos of 2.1.0-rc3 for athlon-xp? :)
20:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: f*ck you ... of course I can do that! :)
20:31 < mnemoc> *g*
20:37 < rxr> uploaded
20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: tarball online
20:39 < mnemoc> mail sent
20:39 < rxr> ok - /me shortly out for some more food
20:40 < mnemoc> cu rxr :)
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21:19 < owl> hi
21:19 < rxr> re
21:20 < owl> hi rxr
21:20 < morfoh> bonsoir owl
21:20 < owl> hi morfoh
21:21 < rxr> hm - my irssi is confused - it highlighes lines with morfoh and not with rxr ...
21:21 < morfoh> :)
21:22 -!- You're now known as rxr2
21:22 -!- You're now known as rxr
21:22 < rxr> test rxr
21:22 < rxr> hm
21:23 < morfoh> :)
21:23 < rxr> morfoh: could you write a line to me ?
21:23 < morfoh> rxr: test one two...
21:23 < rxr> ah - works again ...
21:23 < morfoh> rxr: :)
21:25 < mnemoc> *g*
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21:50 < valentin> re
21:54 < rxr> hi valentin
22:03 < rxr> mnemoc: should I do the freshmeat announcement - or do you ?
22:05 < mnemoc> oh, i forgot freshmeat
22:05 < mnemoc> .oO( did i announce rc2 therE? )o
22:09 < mnemoc> yes, i did :D
22:10 < mnemoc> rxr: if you want, do it. if not, i will :p
22:16 < mnemoc> rxr: why are you owner of rocklinux at freshmeat?
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22:38 < rxr> mnemoc: because noone ever removed me ... ?
22:38 < rxr> because rock people do not care and have AFAICS onle released on release since I left
22:43 < mnemoc> :)
22:43 < mnemoc> jocelin (gone), ripclaw (gone) and you (gone) are ROCKLinux owners :p
22:43 < mnemoc> jocelyn*
22:46 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - thats it - best proof is: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
22:48 < mnemoc> :)
22:49 < rxr> and if I would not have browsed thru cups junk code today there would have been more commits even
22:49 < rxr> but so far I try to follow this ugly cups code path to find out where it screws up parameters printing to my printer
22:49 < rxr> damn junk
22:51 * mnemoc 'porting' sing from libnet 1.0 to libnet 1.1... which should have be named 2.0 :\
22:55 < mnemoc> libnet is pretty cool :)
22:58 < rxr> yeah?
23:06 < mnemoc> yep
23:06 < mnemoc> for a C library ;)
23:10 < rxr> mnemoc: susans crawls into the bed ...
23:11 < rxr> well - I would write the freshmeat announcement - but after the sleep cycle
23:11 < rxr> if you have a sec. just do so if you like
23:11 < mnemoc> ok, i will :)
23:11 < rxr> I could do off-site PR after that
23:11 < mnemoc> sleep well
23:11 < mnemoc> sure
23:11 < rxr> btw. wine of chile today ... ,-)
23:11 < mnemoc> :D
23:11 < rxr> this merlot central value I think ,-)
23:11 < rxr> vally even
23:12 < rxr> too much value debugging in cups ... now that I start writing about the value of wine ... ,-)
23:12 < mnemoc> :D
23:12 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
23:12 < rxr> n9 mnemoc - sleep well as well!
23:13 < mnemoc> thanks
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