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00:49 < jsaw> re
01:10 < _Lewellyn> bah. looks like ooo really does need gnome :(
01:14 < jsaw> _Lewellyn: you should be able to disable gnome support?
01:15 < _Lewellyn> i'll look into it later; at the moment, i really would like to get this target built. if it means enabling gnome to do it right now, so be it.
01:15 < jsaw> ...
01:16 < _Lewellyn> huh. seems firefox requires at least gtk, too...
01:26  * _Lewellyn tries building again
02:42 < mnemoc> moin
02:53 < _Lewellyn> hoi mnemoc 
02:58 < mnemoc> hi _Lewellyn 
03:00 < _Ragnar_> hi ;)
03:02 < _Lewellyn> hoi _Ragnar_ 
03:02 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: so, ooo seems to require gnome after all
03:02 < _Lewellyn> (at least for now...)
03:04 < mnemoc> :\
03:05 < mnemoc> #Dependencies: GNOME!='' 
03:06 < _Lewellyn> what does that line mean?
03:06 < _Lewellyn> all i know is that i got the build to failing on a missing gnome-vfs
03:06 < mnemoc> that makes the module (ooo) only appear if GNOME is set to something, minimal or basic
03:10 < _Lewellyn> huh. i had no gnome
03:10 < _Lewellyn> no gtk, either. and that seems to be what firefox required.
03:13 < _Lewellyn> i added all sorts of crap this time around.
03:13 < _Lewellyn> the whole "screw it. it's going to build, dammit" approach
03:13 < _Lewellyn> i'll try to get it configured how i wanted it later
03:15 < mnemoc> mnemosyne is designed thinking in small bricks and force and depend relationships between them
03:15 < mnemoc> if firefox/thunderbird depend on GTK, it can: #Dependencies: GTK    or #Forced: GTK
03:16 < mnemoc> the difference is just 'usability'
03:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: mail replied
03:17 < _Lewellyn> ya, i think it depends on gtk. it probably should force it
03:17 < _Lewellyn> since most people will assume that firefox will build if they don't see it ;)
03:19 < _Lewellyn> ya. #Dependencies: NETWORK GTK
03:19  * _Lewellyn would personally like to see it force them, instead
03:21 < mnemoc> Depend on NETWORK and force GTK
03:21 < _Lewellyn> also, the audio and media support are borked in Config
03:21 < _Lewellyn> yes, that would be a good way
03:21 < mnemoc> what's the problem with audio?
03:21 < _Lewellyn> um. i'm afraid to run config while building :)
03:22 < _Lewellyn> but the choices don't look right in the listing
03:22 < mnemoc> if you are build a mnemosyne
03:22 < mnemoc> touch .pause
03:22 < mnemoc> and the build will stop right after current package finishs
03:24 < _Lewellyn> i'm building gtk+ for the first time... it will probably take another 5-10 mins, at least
03:24 < _Lewellyn> and i touch that in the config dir?
03:25 < mnemoc> no, t2-root
03:25 < mnemoc> but config/$config sounds like a good change for this 'feature'
03:26 < mnemoc> ^C also works
03:33 < _Lewellyn> i prefer not ^Cing things. they break sometimes and i hate being the one to figure out why ;)
03:33 < mnemoc> .pause
03:33 < _Lewellyn> "um. it broke when i interrupted it..." "when did you interrupt it and can you duplicate it?" "<10 hours later>um, duplicating it didn't work..."
03:33 < _Lewellyn> yar
03:34 < mnemoc> ?
03:35 < mnemoc> btw, i'll commit:
03:35 < mnemoc> -       if [ -f ./.pause ]; then
03:35 < mnemoc> +       if [ -f config/$config/.pause ]; then
03:35 < mnemoc> now
03:40 < _Lewellyn> good good
03:40 < _Lewellyn> hm. why is that mnemosyne2-specific, btw
03:40 < _Lewellyn> ?
03:41 < mnemoc> because it's implemented in target/mnemosyne/build.sh and not target/generic/build.sh :p
03:42 < _Lewellyn> oh. :(
04:00 < _Lewellyn> after "Office Suite", should be sounds support but it reads "basic"
04:11  * _Lewellyn leaves now
04:14 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: that .choice needs a #Description:
06:30 < CIA-9> amery * r12167 /trunk/package/security/vserver/stone_mod_vserver.sh: 
06:30 < CIA-9> * changed stone/vserver to use an alias for vservers' config dir ($vdir)
06:30 < CIA-9> * improved stone/vserver to show what config files are empty
08:04 < valentin> moin
08:12 < valentin> http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
08:25 < mnemoc> moin valentin 
08:32 < CIA-9> amery * r12168 /trunk/package/security/vserver/stone_mod_vserver.sh: * improved stone/vserver to configure uts, and nice cosmetical changes
08:39 < valentin> moin mnemoc 
08:39 < valentin> i like the idea of a global tool with simple name
08:40 < CIA-9> amery * r12169 /trunk/package/security/vserver/stone_mod_vserver.sh: * improved stone/vserver to configure resource limits on 2.4 and 2.6
09:02 < mnemoc> valentin: the problem is the name :p
09:04 < valentin> ,,,,,,,,nnnnnnnnnbnnnnnnnnhhhhhdfgggggggbbnnnnnnnnnnnnnvhjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjniuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuujm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,/////...
09:05 < valentin> janna hackin
09:08 < valentin> what about sam ?
09:11 < mnemoc> i can't impose a name.... and less considering the impact of such tool on t2
09:13 < valentin> maybe we should do a voting on the website
09:21 < mnemoc> we are not that big :p
09:21 < mnemoc> let see what rene and jsaw think about
09:22 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep now
09:22 < valentin> how about:
09:22 < mnemoc> ..
09:22 < valentin> computer, install package xine !
09:22 < valentin> sleep well mnemoc 
09:22 < mnemoc> :)
09:23 < mnemoc> with '!' consider all dependencies, and without only one level :p
09:23 < mnemoc> ok... cu in 5h
09:24 < mnemoc> gn8
09:24 < mnemoc> greeting to janna da haxor
09:26 < valentin> :)
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10:04 < mtr> hi
10:39 < mtr> rxr: does the xorg cvs snapshot work for you?
11:13 < rxr> mtr: not perfectly with gcc-4.0 and x86-64
11:14 < rxr> mnemoc: valentin: let's license the via voice or natuarlly speaking engine - just say: Coputer, ...
11:15 < mtr> rxr: xorg does not build here, make complains about missing grammar_messa.o and no rule to build it
11:16 < rxr> oh - f*ck - yes, saw that, too
11:16 < rxr> mtr can you try a later release?
11:17 < rxr> I want to go modular anyway - maybe I should create all the packages today ...
11:17 < mtr> checked out yesterdays cvs, build is currently running
11:17 < SerWou> good morning
11:18 < mtr> moin SerWou 
11:18 < SerWou> moin mtr ;)
11:46 < rxr> re
11:46 < rxr> moin SerWou 
11:48 < SerWou> hello rxr 
12:07 < rxr> Apple's Pages is also again using Open Source / GPL stuff
12:08 < rxr> libiconv, libxml2, libxslt, tidy lib
12:08 < rxr> ...
13:35 < rxr> re
14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r12170 /trunk/package/security/botan/botan.desc: * updated botan (1.4.6 -> 1.4.7)
14:27 < CIA-9> rene * r12171 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/mjpegtools.desc: * updated mjpegtools (1.6.3-rc3 -> 1.8.0)
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14:28 < morfoh> moin
14:35 < rxr> moin morfoh 
14:36 < morfoh> hi rxr 
14:38 < morfoh> rxr: btw, did we changed sth. in sysfiles ... strangely my laptop isn't mounting /proc anymore at boot
14:41 < valentin> re
14:42 < morfoh> hi valentin 
14:42 < valentin> hi morfoh 
14:47 < rxr> morfoh: I think I have not messed that up .,-)
14:47 < rxr> hi valentin 
14:47 < valentin> hi rxr
14:47 < rxr> I have a product PDF for you to read if you have a sec
14:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/avision-osx.pdf
14:49 < rxr> made by scrbius (tm)
14:49 < rxr> because this Apple Pages thin sucks even more ...
14:49 < rxr> and the 45 day or so demo version failed back into demo viewer only mode during the first day ...
14:51 < valentin> the typesetting looks a bitt scattered
14:51 < valentin> maybe do 2 columns ?
14:52 < SerWou> i'm agree with valentin 
14:53 < SerWou> maybe you should "indent" the txt
14:53 < valentin> rxr: what is the intended audience ?
14:53 < SerWou> and put a little more space between columns imo
14:54 < rxr> valentin: the usual OS X people running around at a document fair ..
14:54 < valentin> do you think anyone of them knows what objective c is ?
14:54 < rxr> no - but maybe the think it is cool then ... ,-)
14:56 < rxr> updated
14:56 < rxr> is the bottom yellow box ok ?
14:57 < valentin> i hope it looks well when printed
14:57 < SerWou> what font you use in the blue and yellow box ?
15:00 < rxr> I hope all fonts are Bitstream Vera ...
15:00 < rxr> Sans
15:00 < SerWou> strange
15:00 < SerWou> why not consider all box with the same blue color who looks pretty nice
15:01 < valentin> rxr: the fonts look different here
15:02 < SerWou> because blue/another blue/light green/light yellow are a little too much  IMO
15:02 < SerWou> looks different too here
15:03 < SerWou> or you can use the grey colors of MacOSX interface for background boxes
15:04 < SerWou> and so on for the blue
15:08 < rxr> now it is 2 column - better ?
15:08 < valentin> i think it is more readable
15:09 < SerWou> yes
15:09 < SerWou> good idea valentin 
15:09 < valentin> maybe you put a bit more space between topic lines and text block
15:10 < SerWou> yes too, and "indent" the text at the start of each paragraph
15:10 < valentin> maybe then you get rid of that empty paragraph betw. end of text and bluebox
15:10 < valentin> SerWou: nice idea
15:10 < SerWou> something like 5mm
15:13 < rxr> reload
15:13 < SerWou> maybe consider to align the screenshot on the right like you did with the green box on the left
15:13 < rxr> suggestions beside - have fun filling the gap at the end ?
15:14 < SerWou> could i have a pdf streaming application ? ;) lol
15:14 < SerWou> police changed
15:16 < SerWou> maybe i could purpose a fork of your doc ? 
15:16 < SerWou> i'm tired doing xhtml/css today
15:19 < valentin> rxr: the text font changed, looks much better :) but now you still need one paragraph :/
15:19 < rxr> yep
15:19 < valentin> and you should place the blue box a bit higher, so it ends on one line with column 1
15:19 < rxr> or I go 3 columns again ... ,-)
15:21 < valentin> or change paper size *G*
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15:31 < owl> hi
15:31 < SerWou> hello owl 
15:31 < morfoh> hi owl 
15:31 < owl> hi SerWou , morfoh ;)
15:31 < morfoh> btw, salut SerWou ;)
15:31 < SerWou> salut morfoh aussi ;)
15:32 < valentin> hi owl 
15:33 < valentin> morfoh is an aussi ?
15:33 < rxr> valentin: final coments ?
15:33 < SerWou> aussi means "too" ;)
15:33 < morfoh> valentin: :D
15:34 < owl> hi valentin , rxr 
15:34 < valentin> rxr: much better
15:35 < valentin> that sublimal linux advertisement is funny
15:35 < morfoh> rxr: btw, will you sell the scanner stuff OS X directly and not via Buhl anymore ? 
15:35 < valentin> did you spellcheck that text ?
15:36 < rxr> valentin: manually 
15:37 < rxr> let me do some fine tuning
15:37 < rxr> and then you could proof read before I go and print it
15:42 < rxr> valentin: now
15:43 < valentin> where do you print it |?
15:43 < rxr> I wanted at gravis hannover
15:44 < rxr> but now it is too late - since my brother's work cycle ended :_(
15:44 < valentin> it should be "document scanner" in the headline
15:44 < rxr> I ask BHS Binkert if they can bring it to the fair
15:45 < rxr> ok - changed to Dokumenten - ok ?
15:46 < valentin> yes
15:46 < valentin> but in the text below you write it as one word
15:46 < valentin> spielend gemeistert
15:48 < valentin> i would say : bis zu 35 Seiten oder 70 Bilder .... erfasst werden
15:48 < valentin> s/erfasst/gescannt
15:48 < rxr> done
15:48 < valentin> Auswahl des zu scannenden Objektes
15:48 < rxr> erfasst ist doch gut ,-)
15:49 < valentin> but you have erfasst in the line below
15:49 < valentin> seit mehreren Jahren
15:50 < rxr> ok - done
15:51 < valentin> can you upload
15:52 < rxr> done
15:54 < valentin> maybe s/Images/Bilder in the blue box, too ?
15:54 < rxr> ah - yep
15:55 < rxr> i also changed the OS X g3 g4 g5 line alread
15:55 < rxr> y
15:56 < rxr> reload
15:56 < rxr> valentin: yo do noone with color laser in lauenau ?
15:56 < rxr> you don't know anyone with color laser in lauenau even ....
15:57 < valentin> i do not know much ppl with color lasers at all ...
15:58 < rxr> ouhm
15:58 < rxr> ok - I hand it over to binkert, right ?
15:58 < valentin> all joe users have inkjets
15:58 < valentin> rxr: i suppose so
15:58 < valentin> or you drive to hannover and find a copy shop
15:58 < rxr> well - and pay the usual 10-20 euro just to open the file ....
15:58 < rxr> ok - reload if you like to see the final
15:59 < valentin> ouh i found another error
15:59 < valentin> koennenn
16:00 < valentin> last paragraph column 1
16:01 < rxr> done
16:23 < rxr> just booted windoze
16:23 < rxr> the PDF looks crappy in the Adobe Reader ...
16:23 < rxr> the justified text is messed up - the rest is fine ...
16:23 < rxr> well - I wil print them here on my fathers b/w laser
16:23 < rxr> that must do for tomorrow ...
16:23 < rxr> on OS X the PDF is even more messed up 
16:24 < valentin> maybe you can adjust the colors before
16:24 < rxr> that is in Apple's el-cheapo Preview
16:24 < rxr> valentin: colors for b/w or in general
16:24 < rxr> valentin: I would do such a paper over ExactCODE - do you like the overal desifn of the paper ?
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16:28 < Baldzius> moin :)
16:31 < valentin> rxr: yes
16:31 < morfoh> moin Baldzius :)
16:31 < valentin> rxr: where does this klaptop applet come from ?
16:32 < rxr> no idea
16:32 < valentin> can you grep your flists ?
16:33 < rxr> hm - I only have matches in i18n and kdeartwork
16:37 < owl> someone has experience with ibm/lenovo-3-year-next-bussiness-day-service?
16:38 < rxr> http://www.amanith.org/blog/index.php
16:38 < rxr> ^- maybe nice to have
16:38 < rxr> owl: no IBM x86 hardware on my side
16:38 < morfoh> owl: nope, sorry ... my Thinkpad R40 just has 3 years warranty extension
16:39 < owl> ah. ok. thx anyway ;)
16:40 < morfoh> owl: but take care regarding the support service ... IBM isn't capable to fullfill their own "business-on-demand" proposal :|
16:41 < morfoh> owl: I had to wait for a simple mainboard sth. arround 3-4 weeks
16:42 < rxr> http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
16:42 < rxr> ^- should be in t2 as well
16:42 < morfoh> owl: and the "Support Center" wasn't even capable to tell me the date it arrives :/
16:43 < owl> ouch! well - i want to buy the r50e ( http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/product_info.php/notebooks/ibm/r50ereihe/ibm_thinkpad_r50e_ur0s8ge ) - with 3 yeahr "n.b.d. / on site-support"... ;)
16:43 < owl> well. this is "normal business" ... my current notebook is at samsung over one month now... just to get the money back *puke*
16:44 < morfoh> owl: hmmm ... the R50e is the cheaper "non-modular" version, but indeed a quite nice machine
16:45 < owl> non-modular in what way?
16:45 < morfoh> owl: I think it has no modular Drive-Bay
16:46 < owl> hmm. dunno. never needed drive-bay during the last 5 years using notebooks... ;)
16:46 < morfoh> owl: try to compare the R50e with the "normal" R50 ... dunno exactly the current differences. I'm a bit out of the notebook business ;)
16:48 < owl> hehe. ok ;) (well. at least i can't get a r50 anymore ;)
17:17 < valentin> rxr: gsmp down again ?
17:24 < rxr> really ?
17:25 < rxr> nexus as well - hm ?
17:25 < rxr> the whole TFH ?
17:33 < valentin> is there a possibility to hack something in our linux conf so a kernel source tarball is created ?
17:34 < valentin> or anything else to develop and evaluate kernel driver packages w.o. recompiling the whole stuff ?
17:42 < mnemoc> rehi
17:42 < valentin> hi mnemoc 
17:42 < morfoh> hi mnemoc 
17:42 < mnemoc> hi valentin, morfoh 
17:43 < rxr> valentin: gsmp back again - isn't it?
17:43 < rxr> seems TFH was down ...
17:44 < rxr> the whole ...
17:44 < mnemoc> rxr: i uploaded rc3 minimal for x86-64 to gsmp, works on qemu.
17:50 < mnemoc> go vale
17:50 < mnemoc> err
18:16 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
18:16 < rxr> valentin: are you still around ?
18:16 < valentin> for a very short time, yes
18:17 < valentin> do you know an post office that is open after 6pm ?
18:17 < rxr> mine in friedena
18:17 < rxr> friedenau
18:18 < rxr> the center filiale in the hauptstrasse - is open until 20.00
18:18 < rxr> guess there are more cetner filialen around 
18:19 < valentin> where is hauptstrasse ?
18:22 < valentin> not all centers have open after 18:00
18:24 < valentin> found one...
18:28 < mnemoc> mtr: are all those uclibc patches needed? can't be done using the sed helpers we have?
18:28 < valentin> cu later
18:28 < mnemoc> cu valentin 
18:28 < morfoh> cu
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18:52 [@vilkacis ] [ Baldzius] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ SerWou   ] [ valentin] 
18:52 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9   ] [ mtr   ] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ] 
18:52 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw    ] [ nzg   ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] 
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19:01 < CIA-9> amery * r12172 /trunk/package/security/vserver/stone_mod_vserver.sh: * improved stone/vserver to manage apps/init/*
19:06 < CIA-9> amery * r12173 /trunk/package/security/vserver/stone_mod_vserver.sh: * changed stone/vserver to show apps/init/mtab over fstab for convenience, and other cosmetical changes
19:53 < rxr_> re
19:53 < rxr_> valentin: your netconf is segfaulting miserably on this box here ...
20:09 < valentin> re
20:09 < valentin> .oO
20:10 < owl> wb valentin 
20:10 < mnemoc> owlita!
20:11 < valentin> hi owl, mnemoc, rxr
20:16 < owl> hi mnemoc ;)
20:26 < CIA-9> aldas * r12174 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: * updated goffice (0.0.3 -> 0.0.4)
20:27 < CIA-9> aldas * r12175 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.5.5 -> 1.5.90)
20:48 < mnemoc> Baldzius: is gnumeric 1.5 the development branch for 1.6?
20:48 < Baldzius> mnemoc: i think so
20:49 < mnemoc> so, considering we have gnumeric-1.5.0 on 2.1, updating to 1.5.90 is the right thing and not a minor 'jump'
20:50 < mnemoc> major i mean
20:51 < Baldzius> you mean major?
20:51 < Baldzius> :)
20:51 < mnemoc> yes 
20:52 < Baldzius> i guess it's right thing
20:52 < Baldzius> seems they jump to 1.6 soon
21:05 < rxr_> re
21:06 -!- You're now known as rxr
21:14 < rxr> valentin: ?
21:27 < valentin> re
21:27 < valentin> yes ?
21:31 < rxr> ah
21:31 < rxr> cool
21:31 < rxr> need some input for the ExactCODE paper
21:31 < rxr> do you have some minutes sss
21:36 < rxr> did you got the query ?
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21:41 < morfoh> re hi
21:41 < mtr> mnemoc: uclibc gcc/binutils patches are basically the same as before
21:41 < mtr> hi morfoh 
21:41 < mtr> mnemoc: plus some tiny bugfix patches from the ML and bugtracking
21:41 < morfoh> hi mtr 
21:41 -!- valentin_ [n=valentin@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
21:41 < valentin_> damn
21:41 < valentin_> what did i miss ?
21:42 -!- valentin_ is now known as help
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21:45 < valentin> another 1 second brownout
21:46 < valentin> rxr: where is the info sheet ?
21:47 < valentin> back in a minute
21:57 < valentin> our nice uptime ...
21:58 < valentin> well, at least it is some kind of anti-aging program for the system
22:00 < rxr> valentin: !
22:00 < rxr> damn
22:00 < rxr> I wrote the url in a query ....
22:01 < rxr> valentin: here?
22:03 < valentin> yes
22:03 < rxr> do you see the query ?
22:04 < valentin> yes
22:04 < valentin> do you see my ansswer ?
22:04 < rxr> no
22:04 < valentin> damn
22:04 < rxr> freenode sucks these days ...
22:04 < valentin> i get no anti-spam message and i am registered
22:14 < mnemoc> mtr: good... they love to patch a lot, and we don't need/want to do the same
22:14 < mnemoc> valentin,rxr: everything *OK*^3 :-D
22:14 < mnemoc> valentin,rxr: thanks a lot friends
22:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: what trickery apart of initstyle=plain and runit/{1,3} cleanup do you do to vserver/runit ?
22:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: atm, I do nothing else here
22:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: why ... do you have problems ?
22:17 < mnemoc> nope, just curious :)
22:17 < valentin> mnemoc: you are wllcome :)
22:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: why curious ? :)
22:19 < rxr> mnemoc: nice to read ,-)
22:19 < mnemoc> :-)
22:20 < rxr> ok - I go to my fathers laser - pringin some PR papers ...
22:22 < mnemoc> PR? event comming?
22:24 < rxr> mnemoc: Document Management Systems (DMS) or so
22:24 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm invited to the scanner manufactor presenting our OS X drivers to the "masses"
22:24 < rxr> so OSX driver paper and ExactCODE papers ...
22:25 < rxr> november will be T2@Linux World Expo
22:27 < mnemoc> :)
22:38 < rxr> re
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22:45 < madtux> hi
22:45 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
22:45 < mnemoc> bcc package ready?
22:46 < morfoh> hi madtux 
22:46 < madtux> mnemoc: how come u are such an incistent person? who are u learning this from?
22:46 < madtux> morfoh: :)
22:46 < mnemoc> madtux: from you
22:47 < madtux> geez... i am not like that
22:51 < owl> hi madtux 
22:51 < _Lewellyn> gah. why does ooo take so long to build!? :(
22:51 < mnemoc> ask at #OpenOffice.org
22:51 < _Lewellyn> it also takes a LOT of hard disk space :(
22:51 < mnemoc> openoffice and mozilla are the two worse projects i have ever known
22:52 < _Lewellyn> at least mozilla builds in a halfway reasonable amount of time...
22:52 < mnemoc> they even have their own fork of glibc inside ooo source
22:52 < _Lewellyn> bah. it's already at 3 hours of building. the rest of stage 3 only takes about that long :(
22:52 < _Lewellyn> 5 rather
22:52 < mnemoc> 7h here
22:53 < _Lewellyn> it also doesn't take advantage of dual cpus as well as some builds
22:54 < madtux> hello SED.. i mean Eule.
22:54 < valentin> sed ?
22:54 < owl> :)
22:54 < owl> sandra e. dismar ;)
22:55 < madtux> yeah... sandra "eule" dismar
22:55 < madtux> :)
22:55 < valentin> ah i thougt sozialistische einheits partei
22:55 < _Lewellyn> for a second there, i was afraid that the text processor had gained sentience
22:55 < _Lewellyn> :(
22:55 < valentin> tired
22:56 < owl> lol :)
22:58 < morfoh> SED sounds quite familiar to me :p ... but valentin you forgot "Deutschlands" ;)
22:59 < valentin> morfoh: yes
22:59 < morfoh> valentin: or do you mean "Eineitpardei" ? :p
23:00 < valentin> well ... sounds nice
23:14 < madtux> interesting... CIA-9 has announced my commits..
23:16 < mnemoc> CIA knows everything
23:17 < madtux> well the little @#%#$^ has not said anything about my commits... he ignores me
23:18 < madtux> morfoh: can i borrow your rat?
23:18 < morfoh> madtux: I guess not ... because I know you'll do evil things with him
23:19 < madtux> like if you were not evil.
23:19 < morfoh> madtux: tell me more about my evilness ?
23:19 < madtux> there more creatures of the darkside here than u think... right owl ?
23:19 < mnemoc> he cut rat's fingers
23:20 < madtux> morfoh: you like to use your rat to torture people..
23:20 < morfoh> madtux: why  torture ?
23:20 < madtux> morfoh: like on the movie 2 Fast 2 Furious... the scene with the rat was totally inspired by you.
23:21 < madtux> :)
23:21 < morfoh> madtux: hmmmm ... can't rememeber the scene ... but "rat" is mostly very friendly :)
23:21 < valentin> ok all, i need some sleep npw
23:21 < morfoh> good night valentin 
23:21 < madtux> cya valentin 
23:21 < valentin> cu tomorow evening
23:21 < madtux> i need coffee..
23:21 < madtux> brb
23:21 < mnemoc> cu valentin 
23:22  * morfoh had too much coffee ... brb
23:22 < rxr> I think I should reboot irssi
23:23 < rxr> it again highlights morfoh instead of rxr lines ...
23:23 < mnemoc> morfoh highligth himself by doing /me
23:23 < mnemoc> rxr 
23:23 < mnemoc> rxr
23:24 < rxr> mnemoc: you are so right ,-)
23:24 < rxr> too much scribus today ,-)
23:24 < mnemoc> :)
23:25  * morfoh hacked rxr's irssi ... rxr is totaly remote controled *G*
23:28 < rxr> hope I have some good prints in my hands soon - to be off into bed ...
23:29 < rxr> but - damn - I have to fight a cups issue again ...
23:29  * mnemoc gives a cups of coffee to rxr
23:29 < morfoh> :D
23:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: I guess this will not help 
23:30 < rxr> morfoh: maybe when thrown against some cups hackers head ...
23:30 < morfoh> rxr: thanks :D
23:30 < mnemoc> :)
23:32 < morfoh> rxr: but I'd like to throw a cups on a gcc hackers head :p
23:32 < rxr> how I hate cups
23:33 < rxr> I have more sympatiy with the gcc hackers than to the cups craps ...
23:33 < madtux> mnemoc: CIA-9 has not reported my commit... are u sure its working?
23:33 < mnemoc> madtux: we don't control CIA
23:33 < madtux> i know..
23:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: why not ? :p
23:33 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: btw, if i write a .ask, can i get a choice between lprng and cups? :)
23:34 < madtux> morfoh: we should make mnemoc have a meeting with your rat.
23:34 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: ehm, you would need to convert it into a three values .choice
23:34 < morfoh> madtux: no no please not mnemoc ... he is toooooo hungry all
23:34 < morfoh> the time
23:35 < morfoh> madtux: he'll eat him in one second
23:35 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: and change modules depending on PRINTING to depend on PRINTING=cups or PRINTING!=''
23:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
23:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
23:37 < morfoh> madtux: but I'll send him to Costa Rica to cut all your cables ... that's the only attack he can do against a geek :)
23:37 < morfoh> madtux: and he is _very_ perfect in that .... believe me 
23:38 < morfoh> madtux: but anyway ... then you have not to think about CIA, commits etc. anymore :)
23:39 < mnemoc> once we get t2-powered, vilkacis will notify
23:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: hopefully you'll be able to drill vilkacis meanwhile :p
23:42 < mnemoc> .oO( drill? )o
23:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah ... that he'll do what you want ... mostly he is doing his own thing :p
23:44 < mnemoc> o.o
23:47 < madtux> morfoh: send him over... i miss the sound of rat burning..
23:47 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: good good. i just realized earlier today (again) how much i hate cups
23:48 < madtux> i don't have a problem with cups..
23:48 < madtux> i smashed my printed and do not want to buy another one.
23:48 < madtux> so i do not need cups.
23:52 < morfoh> madtux: he'll burn you ... you should never underestimate the "rat" :p
23:53 < morfoh> then we'll have a real pyrotux *evil* *g*
23:54 < madtux> pah
23:55 < morfoh> madtux: he'll whisper in your ear while you're sleeping: "burn tux ... burn"
23:56 < mnemoc> madtux: what you had against 'sam'?
23:56 < madtux> what areu talking about?
23:56 < morfoh> :)
23:57 < madtux> :)
23:57 < mnemoc> madtux: yesterday you told me you didn't like sam
23:57 < madtux> i dislike the name.
23:57 < madtux> thats all.
23:57 < morfoh> I don't know any "sam" :)
23:57 < mnemoc> madtux: why? what do you propose?
23:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: did you read the thread on ML?
23:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: for what ? package manager ?
23:58 < madtux> i have not come up with a better name... thats why u haven;t heard back from me
23:58 < madtux> i which i could do something with RAT
23:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: not just package manager, also stone replacement
23:59 < mnemoc> morfoh: that's what jsaw proposed
23:59 < madtux> are we going to replace mine too?
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