--- Log opened Thu Sep 29 00:00:36 2005 00:15 -!- vikingo [i=vikingo@200.69.235.117] has quit [Client Quit] 00:22 -!- sparc-kly|Univ [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:46 -!- vikingo [i=vikingo@200.68.127.95] has quit [Client Quit] 01:28 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, nzg 01:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg, jsaw 01:40 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, nzg 01:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg, jsaw 01:45 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, nzg 01:45 -!- nzg_ [n=tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has joined #t2 01:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jsaw 02:17 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFC839.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 02:26 -!- madtux [n=mike@196.40.44.28] has joined #t2 02:27 < madtux> hello. 02:27 < mnemoc> wb madtux 02:27 < madtux> thx mnemoc 02:27 < morfoh> hey madtux :) 02:27 < madtux> hi morfoh how is it going buddy? 02:34 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFACFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:35 < morfoh> madtux: quite good :) thanks ... and on your site ? 02:37 < madtux> things are getting better and better.. i can't complain 02:38 < morfoh> madtux: good to hear ... :) 02:38 < madtux> thank you 02:39 < morfoh> madtux: but you must be in a different world then ... just up's ... no downs :p 02:40 < morfoh> madtux: lucky one :p 02:40 < madtux> i've had several downs in the past weeks.. months.. 02:41 < madtux> ut i am not going to let that bring me down.. i am working hard to improve my life 02:41 < madtux> :) 02:41 < morfoh> madtux: fine :) 02:43 < madtux> it has not been easy.. but well... u can't just wait for things to workoput yourself... sometimes u need to work hard. 03:11 -!- madtux [n=mike@196.40.44.28] has quit ["leaving"] 03:17 -!- vikingo [n=vikingog@200.68.127.236] has quit [Client Quit] 03:18 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.251.235] has joined #t2 04:00 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 04:03 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 04:28 -!- morfoh_ [n=jeru@p54BED8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 04:42 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEBA75.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:23 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:20 < _Lewellyn> so quiet 06:20 < mnemoc> yep 06:21 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: if you write fake scripts for shutdown, halt, reboot and wall, please send me the patch :p 06:22 < _Lewellyn> hm. why a fake wall rather than a real one? 06:24 < mnemoc> it's part of sysvinit package 06:24 < mnemoc> feel free to fork it ;) 06:26 < mnemoc> sysvinit mixes to many different tools :\ 06:28 < mnemoc> i guess i'll have to fork it 06:29 * mnemoc tired..... 06:29 < mnemoc> gn8 _Lewellyn 06:30 < _Lewellyn> or i could re-write wall(1) 06:30 < _Lewellyn> sleep well 06:31 < mnemoc> bye 08:56 < rxr_> moin 08:57 < rxr_> valentin: we could do another thing for avision - based on T2 embedded Linux - for printer / scan multi function devices ... 08:57 < rxr_> cu later 08:58 < _Lewellyn> hoi rxr 09:07 < rxr_> http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/index.html 09:07 < rxr_> hi _Lewellyn 09:09 < valentin> moin 09:11 < rxr_> moin valentin 09:13 < valentin> rxr_: this looks like google earth and is windows only 09:14 < rxr_> valentin: news site claim it is open source 09:14 < rxr_> http://www.proscan.com.au/avision/IT8300.htm 09:15 < rxr_> ^- embedded linux software for this thing - for color laser printer + it8000 multi function devices - network ready and such 09:15 < valentin> it has already ? 09:15 < rxr_> no - it has nothing 09:16 < rxr_> integrators solder s.th. together on their own 09:16 < rxr_> mostly windows 09:16 < rxr_> they want to have a full featured linux sollution ready to sell to the integrators - so they only have to do tweak in favour or soldering their on app. on some windows falvour 09:17 < rxr_> the Iris ORC for Mac does crash our Mac driver btw. ... 09:17 < rxr_> I have a full version in my pocket - and we will get the new version as well - as we will get some easy software scan client software for mac - I fear that one will oncover more issues in the mac driver ... :-( 09:18 < valentin> oha 09:19 < rxr_> well - maybe think what amount of stuff we would like to in the image processing area and what profit one could generate with that 09:19 < valentin> yes, depends on what they pay 09:19 < rxr_> first this linux mac software and then this multi function device base technology 09:19 < rxr_> let's discuss that when I'm back in berlin then ... 09:20 < rxr_> valentin: I do not have a number (yet) 09:20 < rxr_> I'll drive to lauenau tonight - and will drive to berlin either friday evening or saturday morning 09:21 < rxr_> depending how much is left to do on my fathers Linux box ... 09:44 < _Lewellyn> hm. looks like the sysvinit wall will work fine with mnemosyne... 09:45 * _Lewellyn makesit a point to play with it more later, as well as try to figure out how to deal with killall5 10:24 < morfoh_> moin 10:30 < valentin> rxr: who is "pfister again?" 10:31 < valentin> is that the person from archivista ? 10:32 < valentin> he wrote me an sms, that he needs your help 10:40 < rxr_> valentin: ouhm 10:40 < rxr_> yes - archivista 10:40 < rxr_> my cell akku is empty ... 10:48 < valentin> no usb cable ? 10:49 < jsaw> re 10:49 < morfoh_> wb jsaw :) 10:50 < jsaw> hi morfoh_ 10:50 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh 10:55 < rxr_> thanks valentin 10:55 < rxr_> called him from the booth phone ... 10:55 < rxr_> all - fine - noting big... 10:57 < _Lewellyn> gah. this sucks. i can't find the page which tells me how to enable my pcmcia slots in linux with this machine :( 10:57 < _Lewellyn> i found it yesterday :( 10:57 < jsaw> ? 10:58 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: my pcmcia isn't working "out of the box" and this appears to be a common issue with this machine in linux 10:59 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: normally you just need pcmcia support within the kernel and pcmcia-cs package afaik 10:59 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: what is the exact error ? 10:59 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: it seems that i at least have the former 10:59 < jsaw> .oO(I'd think pccard is either enabled or not, from bios...) 10:59 < _Lewellyn> no errors 10:59 < _Lewellyn> it seems to see the devices but they aren't actually enabled 11:00 < _Lewellyn> i.e. power lights don't come on, kernel modules don't load, etc. 11:00 < _Lewellyn> but they show up in lspci 11:00 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: check if you have pcmcia-cs package 11:00 < jsaw> do the bus modules load? 11:00 < _Lewellyn> i seem to recall something along the lines of "stick this in modprobe.conf" 11:00 < jsaw> not necessarily pcmcia-cs, pccard might be enough 11:02 < _Lewellyn> but no, i don't seem to have pcmcia-cs, either. 11:02 < _Lewellyn> so it may all be moot 11:03 < _Lewellyn> i guess i'll see if i can port the rest of the sysvinit crap and then get my winmodem driver package built. 11:03 < _Lewellyn> and then i'll start my build again 11:03 < rxr_> no usb cable - it is in berlin on my desk 11:04 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:06 * _Lewellyn dccs a usb cable to rxr 11:11 < CIA-9> jsaw * r12198 /trunk/package/gnome2/gpdf/gpdf.desc: * disable gpdf, evince is the gnome default document viewer now 11:13 < rxr> disable ? 11:13 < jsaw> not sure if I should move it to attic immediately, should I? 11:13 < rxr> no idea 11:14 < rxr> but as long as the version is not too old I would leave it enabled 11:14 < jsaw> it doesn't build... 11:14 < rxr> and only remove it if the gnome freaks decide to drop it ... 11:14 < rxr> jsaw: oh 11:14 < jsaw> the homepage of it shows news entries from 2003 11:14 < rxr> delete I would say 11:14 < rxr> or attic - whateer ... 11:15 < jsaw> the package itself from ftp.gnome.org is 03/07/05 11:17 < _Lewellyn> evince? that's an odd name 11:17 * _Lewellyn wants an emike and ematt and ejane :) 11:17 < jsaw> :D 11:24 < rxr> _Lewellyn: e17 (enlightenment) has e* names ,-) 11:24 < rxr> though of course exact code has as well ,-)( 11:24 < _Lewellyn> rxr: but what kind of name is "vince"? :) 11:26 < rxr> _Lewellyn: I'm not a gnome fan - so no idea ... 11:27 < morfoh> rxr: so exactcode is on the "path" of enlightenment 11:28 < rxr> morfoh: not necessaryly ... 11:35 < rxr> .oO 11:35 < rxr> I should stop demoing the scanner on a windows box ... 11:36 < rxr> it just f*cked up while showing it to people ... 11:36 < rxr> well - windows ... 11:36 < rxr> "... but well - that is why we also have mac and linux drivers ..." 11:43 < CIA-9> chris * r12199 /trunk/package/network/argus/ (. argus-makefile.patch argus.conf argus.desc pcap-bpf.patch): * added argus (2.0.6) 11:45 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 12:15 < rxr> Asymptote 0.88 12:33 < morfoh> cu 12:33 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 12:37 -!- veki [n=chatzill@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 12:52 < jsaw> _Lewellyn: I found it: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ 12:54 < _Lewellyn> oh yes. i saw that a couple years back. 12:54 < _Lewellyn> it's "ugly" :) 12:54 < _Lewellyn> matchbox-keyboard is looking fairly nice. 12:54 < _Lewellyn> dasher would make me feel ill, too :) 12:54 < jsaw> tss 12:59 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.102.65] has joined #t2 13:00 < Baldzius> moin :) 13:06 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: i'll try to package it, if you think it's useful. 13:15 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 13:35 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.102.65] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:46 -!- veki [n=chatzill@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 13:47 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 13:53 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 14:02 < karasz> hi morfoh 14:05 < morfoh> hi karasz 14:10 < _Lewellyn> hoi morfoh and karasz 14:10 < valentin> rxr: here ? 14:10 < karasz> how are you? 14:10 < karasz> hi _Lewellyn 14:10 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: so, using sysvinit's wall works fine with mnemosyne2. 14:11 < valentin> hi all btw 14:11 < morfoh> hoi hoi _Lewellyn 14:11 < _Lewellyn> and it's 8076 bytes compiled, here 14:11 < _Lewellyn> hoi valentin 14:12 < morfoh> hi valentin ... btw, how are you 2 girls ? long time not heard anything about them ;) 14:13 < valentin> my girls are fine, but the younger girl is quite exhausting sometimes 14:15 < morfoh> valentin: yeah ... I can imagine, but anyway it will not be better if she becomes older ;) 14:18 < _Lewellyn> is mnemoc even awake yet? 14:19 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: I think not yet 14:19 < _Lewellyn> bah. i guess i'll poke him later then. 14:20 < _Lewellyn> i have to head off now. 14:20 < _Lewellyn> back in a few hours. 14:20 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: good luck 14:20 < _Lewellyn> (yay, no sleep again.) 14:24 < jsaw> _Lewellyn: If my aunt does find her speach again I'll setup some small computer with dasher for her... 14:24 < jsaw> s/does/does not/ 14:27 < _Lewellyn> jsaw: ok. dasher is on my list of things to package now, then 14:27 < _Lewellyn> i think matchbox-keyboard will be the default though. 14:27 < _Lewellyn> it's more "standard", small, and appealing to the eye. 14:27 < jsaw> url? 14:28 < _Lewellyn> http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ 14:30 < jsaw> dasher is anyway more for people with handicaps 14:31 < morfoh> jsaw: a friend of mine uses sayit 14:35 < jsaw> hmm, I somehow feel that dasher resembles more the "reading" experience, esp. for computer illiterates 14:44 < _Lewellyn> morfoh: leave me a url for sayit, and i'll look at that, too. 14:44 * _Lewellyn realizes that if he makes all these packages, t2 will be on its way to being the most "accessible" flavor of linux 14:45 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: sorry ... I have no URL and unfortunately never used it by mysel. it's just a simple command line tool ... try to take a look on freshmeat or so ... 14:46 < _Lewellyn> ok. i'll look later. gotta run now though 14:46 < morfoh> cu _Lewellyn 14:46 < _Lewellyn> bbl 15:08 < rxr> re 15:10 < morfoh> wb rxr 15:16 < valentin> rxr: this archivista guy said, -s 1.5 would cause stripes in the thumpnail, whatever thumpnail he was talking about 15:22 < SerWou> good afternoon 15:23 < morfoh> salut SerWou 15:23 < SerWou> Salut morfoh ;) 15:25 < SerWou> try to make my own t2 today, i'm calling Net-station (chaos) Config ;) 15:26 < morfoh> SerWou: good luck ;) 15:26 < SerWou> "may the force be with me" ;) 15:27 < SerWou> well, it's the first one where i will do a major part of the work 15:27 < morfoh> SerWou: may the SDE be with you :p 15:27 < SerWou> hehe 15:28 < SerWou> i'm running linux since 18 months, time to climb a new step : make my own linux ;) 15:29 < morfoh> SerWou: but remember linux is _just_ the kernel ;) 15:30 < SerWou> my own "system" 15:30 < morfoh> SerWou: sorry for being that pedantic :) 15:30 * morfoh hides 15:30 < SerWou> you're right 15:30 < rxr> valentin: he is taling about the exact image optimze2bw scale mode 15:30 < rxr> valentin: maybe you could communicate with him what problem he has? 15:31 < rxr> valentin: and tell him to send you the copy of the source - snce exact-image HEAD is not what he has 15:31 < SerWou> hello rxr 15:31 < rxr> he has a way older version 15:31 < rxr> and the new one is not cleaned and such - but woulod consfuse him and also is not certified to yield the optimized output as the version he has does 15:31 < morfoh> .oO( now even binutils fails while doing my diet tests on 2.1 with the _dyn_start problem )o 15:33 < rxr> valentin: if you do work on that code you can be sure you get the money for the hours you work on it ... btw. ... just to motifate you ,-) 15:46 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.89] has joined #t2 15:46 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.15] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:49 < rxr> hey menomc 15:49 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 16:08 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.96.142] has joined #t2 16:12 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:13 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 16:29 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh@201.36.98.165] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:49 < rxr> at leat the current change of direction of contract partners matches with my current, new field of study ... 17:00 < rxr> ok - /me leaving soon 17:00 < SerWou> ok /me ;) 17:01 < morfoh> rxr: any quick hints ? 17:01 < morfoh> h(+ei)] [2:#t2(+n)] 17:01 < morfoh> [#t2] 17:02 < morfoh> uhm 17:02 < morfoh> i386-t2-linux-gnudietlibc-gcc -dumpspecs > tmp-specs 17:02 < morfoh> cmd_wrapper: execvp(diet-dyn,...) - No such file or directory 17:02 < morfoh> make[1]: *** [specs] Error 253 17:02 < morfoh> =[1]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.4 2.1-stable]. 17:09 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.236.133] has joined #t2 17:09 < keinek> hi 17:10 < morfoh> hi keinek 17:15 < mnemoc> moin 17:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: jsaw gave you the hint :) 17:16 < morfoh> moin mnemoc ... oh ... what was it again :\ 17:17 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: of course they work, but i don't want sysvinit ... but i can take some code from it and create two new packages, one for shutdown and friends and one for wall and friends 17:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: besides the fact that I found a problem in one patch ... nothing has changed so far, as you can see :\ 17:21 < mnemoc> :( 17:22 < morfoh> yes ... it's a sad story :( 17:23 < mnemoc> i just finished building linux-2.6.11.12-vs-2.0.1-pre2-rkill, which suppose to let vserver stop against runit 17:23 < mnemoc> i hope i have backported properly :p 17:23 < morfoh> me too :) 17:23 < mnemoc> i'll try on qemu first 17:24 < mnemoc> so i'm fetching .gem from build server :\ 17:25 < mnemoc> vs-2.0.1-pre2 is for 2.6.13.... and rkill comes from vs-2.1.0-rc2 :p 17:26 < mnemoc> which is also for 2.6.13 17:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: good luck :p 17:26 < mnemoc> at least it compiled :p 17:28 < mnemoc> if that works, i'll try to make a linux-2.6.11.12-vs-2.0.1-pre2-rkill patch to apply over grsec 2.1.6 17:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: lucky one :p 17:29 < mnemoc> i'm pending: socklog.tail, (shutdown & friends), (wall & friends) and bcron.tail 17:29 < mnemoc> but before those i'll do some merges to 2.1 17:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: please don't talk about pending things :| 17:29 < mnemoc> *g* 17:30 < mnemoc> those are my sheba-pendings ;) 17:30 < mnemoc> to finish installing qmail-ldap on two places 17:42 < mnemoc> qemu booted 17:43 < valentin> re 17:43 < mnemoc> wb valentin 17:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: svn diff -r 11370:11371 :| 18:21 < karasz> re hi everybody 18:23 < morfoh> hi karasz 18:25 < karasz> how are you guys? 18:38 < mnemoc> hi karasz 18:42 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.236.133] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:56 < CIA-9> amery * r12200 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-common/gnue-common.desc: * updated gnue-common (0.6.0 -> 0.6.1) 18:57 < CIA-9> amery * r12201 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/gnue-forms.desc: * updated gnue-forms (0.5.12 -> 0.5.13) 19:10 < CIA-9> amery * r12202 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-appserver/gnue-appserver.desc: * updated gnue-appserver (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3) 19:37 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178150240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 19:37 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005] 19:37 [Users #t2] 19:37 [@vilkacis ] [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 19:37 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg_] [ SerWou ] [ valentin ] 19:37 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ owl ] [ Shingo--] 19:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 19:37 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 19:37 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 19:37 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 20:24 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:36 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:36 < minto_> hi folks 20:36 < minto_> ping mnemoc 20:38 < minto_> mnemoc: I am shutting down noisy 20:48 < mnemoc> np 20:48 < mnemoc> wb minto_ ;) 20:49 < mnemoc> i published a t2-minimal x86_64 for rc3 built on your monster mahcine 20:49 < mnemoc> but, as you know, linux24 fails so i couldn't build t2-desktop :( 20:55 < minto_> Sorry, had to put Merlyn to bed. 20:55 < minto_> Nice you succeeded in building a minimal :) 20:56 < minto_> BTW have you changed the password? 20:59 < mnemoc> nope 20:59 < mnemoc> i use my pubkey 20:59 < minto_> .oO 20:59 < mnemoc> i promise :( 20:59 < minto_> Before I shut it down, I couldn't log on 21:00 < mnemoc> tell me when you get it up, and i connect and change it for you 21:00 < minto_> I will, thanks 21:01 < minto_> I hope no one else managed to get access. 21:26 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: that is what i planned on doing. :) 21:26 < _Lewellyn> and not all of them worked. now i know what code is actually useful :) 21:27 < mnemoc> i just started two 'projects' runit-shutdown and runit-logacct, with shell scripts 21:27 < mnemoc> runlevel is working 21:27 < mnemoc> just looping over /proc 21:28 < mnemoc> later i can re-write some to be .c 21:43 < _Lewellyn> mesg will need to be re-implemented, btw 21:44 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-logacct/ http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/ 21:44 < mnemoc> if you want to play with me, send me an htpasswd hash 21:50 < mnemoc> mesg can be .sh, doesn't it? 21:51 < mnemoc> afaik it's just a chmod 22:24 < _Lewellyn> mesg can be anything. 22:24 < _Lewellyn> however, i can't seem to forbid write 22:25 < mnemoc> but user owns it's tty 22:26 < _Lewellyn> ya, i haven't played too much with that. i was busy trying to figure out how to determine the runlevel :) 22:27 < mnemoc> i did it :p 22:27 < mnemoc> take a look into http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/ 22:27 < _Lewellyn> i'll look in a bit. gotta figure out why this code i have here at work (unrelated to t2) is not executing sanely 22:28 * _Lewellyn thinks that (test (not (expression))) doesn't work as described in the documentation and he will get to rtfs again. 22:40 < CIA-9> aldas * r12203 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2) 22:45 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08 < rxr> re 23:09 < mnemoc> wb rxr 23:09 < rxr> hi mnemoc ! 23:09 * rxr back at my parents house ... 23:09 < mnemoc> o.o 23:09 < rxr> why ? 23:10 < mnemoc> i thought you had returned to berlin :) 23:10 < mnemoc> recived with bbq again? ;) 23:11 < rxr> bbq ? 23:11 < rxr> nope - I'm here to finalize my fathers T2 installtion 23:11 < mnemoc> %acronym bbq 23:11 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: bbq could be Barbecue, or Better Be Quick 23:11 < mnemoc> Barbecue :) 23:12 < rxr> before I travel back to berlin - so he can not complain and talk about installing windows anymore 23:12 < mnemoc> :D 23:13 < CIA-9> rene * r12204 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (0.87 -> 0.88) 23:15 < rxr> mnemoc: how are you? 23:16 < mnemoc> fine :) 23:16 < mnemoc> fixing core issues of mnemosyne and fixing sheba, to install two qmail-ldap vservers 23:17 < mnemoc> but gcc/dietlibc is _big_ pain 23:18 < rxr> hm 23:19 < mnemoc> adapted chroot patch is not enough for 3.4.4 23:19 < mnemoc> and without experience finding the new places to patch is not that simple 23:21 < mnemoc> also, i don't understand how to setup qemu networking :\ .... too tired to really read documentation :p 23:21 < rxr> sounds like work for me 23:21 < mnemoc> not yet... enjoy your parents ;) 23:24 < mnemoc> there is any better way to get ppid of processes than greping /proc/$pid/status ? 23:25 < rxr> oehm - have not yet had to code such stuff :-( 23:28 < mnemoc> my dumb script: http://svn.geeks.cl/oss/runit-shutdown/src/runlevel.sh doesn't work always, and it's damn slow 23:29 < mnemoc> does embutils implement ps or there you also need procps? 23:29 < rxr> I see no ps in there 23:30 < rxr> if you need it I can implement a smal version of it tomorrow or so 23:30 < mnemoc> nah ;) 23:30 < rxr> ok - cu tomorrow - I need sleep ,-) 23:30 < mnemoc> i'll use pgrep to find children of pid=1 23:30 < rxr> ;-) 23:30 < mnemoc> sleep well rene 23:31 < mnemoc> :) 23:35 < _Lewellyn> rxr: sleep well :) 23:35 < _Lewellyn> mnemoc: there's probably a better way of getting the ppid... 23:36 < _Lewellyn> i'll look into it after class tonite 23:37 < mnemoc> pgrep -P 1 | sed 's,\(.*\),readlink -f /proc/\1/exe,g' | sh 23:37 < mnemoc> try that 23:39 < _Lewellyn> on my rock system, that gives me the process name 23:39 < mnemoc> o.o 23:39 * _Lewellyn wonders if sh script is the proper way to approach this one.... 23:40 < _Lewellyn> and i'm a script fan, mind you :) 23:40 < mnemoc> of course not, i'm just looking for a first implementation 23:40 < _Lewellyn> ok :) 23:40 < mnemoc> i just need to to work 23:40 < mnemoc> it* 23:40 < _Lewellyn> what is the output supposed to be? 23:41 < mnemoc> executables children of init 23:41 < mnemoc> run it as root btw ;) 23:42 < _Lewellyn> i did :) 23:42 < mnemoc> on stage 1 you should see /etc/runit/1 there 23:42 < _Lewellyn> i got the exe names, should i have the pids? 23:42 < mnemoc> on stage 3 /etc/runit/3 23:43 < mnemoc> and on stage 2 runsvdir 23:43 < _Lewellyn> i'd have to boot another machine for that. 23:43 < mnemoc> pgrep gives pids 23:43 < _Lewellyn> my vms are all in use 23:43 < mnemoc> but i want names 23:43 < _Lewellyn> ok 23:43 < _Lewellyn> i got a nice long list of those here :) 23:44 < mnemoc> a list to grep :) 23:44 < _Lewellyn> eh. only 88. not that many 23:44 < mnemoc> kde i guess 23:44 < _Lewellyn> ew. no. 23:44 < _Lewellyn> lots of xterms, shells, and vims. and a bunch of ssh sessions 23:44 < mnemoc> :) 23:45 < _Lewellyn> the only thing i don't recognize is this /usr/opt/gnome24/libexec/gconfd-2 23:48 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 23:50 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: look at the new runlevel non-recursive implementation ;) 23:52 < mnemoc> reboot/halt/poweroff is also enough-implemented 23:52 < mnemoc> i'll go for shutdown now 23:55 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 23:56 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.96.142] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:57 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit [Client Quit] 23:57 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Fri Sep 30 00:00:37 2005