--- Log opened Mon Oct 03 00:00:38 2005 00:54 < CIA-9> valentin * r12237 /trunk/package/graphic/stellarium/ (. stellarium.desc): * added package stellarium (v0.7.1) 00:59 < valentin> ^-- quite fascinating gimick: http://www.stellarium.org/screenshots.html 00:59 < mnemoc> :D 01:03 < valentin> especialy the effects on sunrise/sunset are quite nice, with the ground and background slowly turning into silhouettes 01:03 < valentin> btw: partial eclipse tomorrow 01:03 < valentin> it even simulates ligth effects for that (!!!) 01:04 < mnemoc> :-) 01:04 < mnemoc> sdl? 01:07 < valentin> wow - click location to portugal and take a look around 11:00 local time 01:07 < valentin> mnemoc: pure opengl if i understood that 01:08 < valentin> here in germany, we will only have 40% sun covered 01:08 < valentin> so one wouldn't even notice without looking up there 01:09 < mnemoc> :) 01:12 < valentin> wow - it even has different athmospheric effects for the different background landscapes 01:12 < valentin> this developer seems to have much free time 01:13 < valentin> and you can zoom into that pictures up to more or less detailed planet view 01:15 < mnemoc> i guess they work or study that 01:18 < valentin> as i understood that, the main developer is studying computer science 01:18 < mnemoc> oh 01:18 < valentin> however, the team needs much data about theese space objects 01:18 < valentin> you even see the planets moons in their right position 01:19 < valentin> and they have about 120.000 space objects in the database 01:19 < mnemoc> oh 01:20 < valentin> well, they sold it to some planetariums 01:21 < valentin> i wonder if you can zoom into ISS, too. 01:21 < valentin> i try :) 01:22 < valentin> hm, no satellite searchable 01:23 < valentin> need to sleep now 01:24 < valentin> cu 01:24 < mnemoc> gn8 old man 01:25 < valentin> old ? 01:25 < valentin> you are the same age old man 01:26 < mnemoc> :D 01:30 < valentin> cu later this day mnemoc. 01:31 < mnemoc> cu $tomorrow valentin ;) 03:32 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.225.112] has joined #t2 03:32 < keinek> hi 06:41 < CIA-9> amery * r12238 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/ghostscript/ghostscript.desc: * merged 12206 from trunk: updated ghostscript (8.15rc3 -> 8.15.1) 07:12 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.225.112] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:37 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p5788AC3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 07:41 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.86] has joined #t2 07:42 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.91] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:45 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 07:51 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p5789372A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:44 < _Ragnar_> == 23:27:44 =[0]=> Building archiver/lzop [1.02rc1 2.2.0-alpha]. 08:44 < _Ragnar_> !> configure: error: LZO header files not found. Please che .. 08:44 < mnemoc> lzop on stage 0? uhm.... so lzo should be there too :( 08:57 < _Ragnar_> same error when I build lzo on stage 0 too 08:57 < _Ragnar_> doesn't find the header files 08:59 < mnemoc> right prio? 08:59 < mnemoc> so this sh* doesn't work at stage 5 neither? 08:59 < _Ragnar_> yes it gets built successfully 09:05 < mnemoc> o.o 09:05 < mnemoc> i'll better go to sleep 09:06 < _Ragnar_> me too 09:06 < _Ragnar_> nini mnemoc 09:15 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ ;) 09:28 < valentin> moin 09:37 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED25D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 09:47 < valentin> too cloudy to see the eclipse :) 09:48 < valentin> s/:)/:(/ 09:48 < valentin> well, i have to use stellarium 09:51 -!- morfoh_ [n=jeru@p54BEBBA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:06 < SerWou> hello 10:07 < SerWou> i wonder if there is a way to compile/Emerge a file stored on the Pc, something like "./script/Emerge-Pkg /home/serwou/program.tar.bz2" ? 10:08 < valentin> hi SerWou 10:08 < valentin> without creating a package ? 10:09 < SerWou> yes 10:09 < SerWou> without create a .desc 10:11 < valentin> i don't know about such an option and i doupt it exists :/ 10:11 < valentin> doubt even 10:12 < valentin> maybe just create a short desc file without filling the [I] and [T] tags ? 10:12 < valentin> and move program.tar.bz2 to download/mirror/<.>/ 10:13 < SerWou> yes, gonna do that 10:13 < SerWou> i was wondering, it could be fun just to test a bunch of programs 10:13 < valentin> if you have to much time, you could see if you can hack something with the build scripts to do that 10:14 < valentin> but i guess it is complicated in detail 10:14 < valentin> and it is better if you go ahead and create packages anyway ! 10:16 < rxr> moin 10:17 < SerWou> motning rxr 10:18 < SerWou> hack something ? ;) gonna brake something instead of ;) 10:18 < valentin> moin rxr 10:18 < valentin> SerWou: hack a script that creates a desc file instead :) 10:19 < SerWou> ha ;) 10:20 < SerWou> smart 10:20 < SerWou> hummmm 10:20 < SerWou> a kind of questionnary 10:20 < SerWou> and it generate the .desc 10:20 < valentin> + chksum patch + copypatch 10:21 < SerWou> bash one and also, an online php version ;) 10:21 < valentin> yeah, a html form :) 10:21 < SerWou> yes 10:21 < SerWou> it could be fun if i knew something in programmation ;) 10:21 < SerWou> lol 10:21 < rxr> https://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/iimgdata/large/0637173.jpg 10:23 < valentin> are you interessted in what article ? 10:24 < rxr> I have the current issue and there are letters complaining about the nudity of that issues cover 10:24 < rxr> I only google searched what they might be complaining about ... 10:24 < valentin> what nudity ??? 10:24 < valentin> do they complain she still wears too much *g* ? 10:25 < rxr> valentin: for some US people this might be too few clothes already ... 10:25 < rxr> valentin: those that also elect this president named Bush 10:26 < valentin> yeah, some ppl with a personal sexual issue 10:26 < valentin> theese guys who say "we will pray for you" but wish you hell, because you have a better live than them... 10:26 < rxr> so - I think I packaged the most interesting archivers now 10:27 < rxr> lzma, lzop, rzip ... 10:27 < valentin> :) 10:27 < rxr> I so far missed lzop - must have overlooked that 10:27 < rxr> and lzma is also a nice unix a-like 7-zip thing - and I did not even know rzip exist ... 10:28 < rxr> Creating binary package file for fixesproto. 10:28 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/fixesproto-3.0.tar.lzo 10:28 < rxr> ,-) 10:29 < rxr> so - the harded to decide issue with X11R7 left is, where to include the /usr/X11 -> /usr/X1R7 symlink into ... 10:29 < rxr> idea anyone ? 10:31 * SerWou is hidden 10:31 < SerWou> not at all, sorry 10:31 < valentin> hum ? 10:34 < valentin> who packages with lzo today ? 10:35 < rxr> valentin: ? 10:35 < valentin> rxr: which package creating that link is build first ? 10:35 < rxr> I intend to build with .lzo packages 10:35 < rxr> lzo is so lightning fast ,-) 10:35 < rxr> valentin: we do not yet have a package build first 10:36 < rxr> formerly it was of course included in xorg 10:36 < rxr> X11 -> X11R6 at that time 10:36 < rxr> now we have 270 packages ... 10:36 < rxr> the first 20 just install header 10:36 < rxr> like fixesptoto and so on 10:36 < rxr> fixesproto 10:36 < rxr> none of that need the link 10:36 < rxr> the first package needing the link are packages that need a header or library ... 10:37 < rxr> but they are all so minor 10:37 < rxr> I hesitate a bit to add the symlink to those tittle packages 10:38 < valentin> why not creating a package X11R6-dirtree ;) 10:38 < rxr> where dirtree is only one symlink ? 10:38 < valentin> hihi 10:39 < valentin> well, not that good idea 10:39 < rxr> ok - I add it to xproto for now 10:42 < valentin> still too cloudy :( 10:42 < rxr> damn - need fresh, hot tea 10:42 < rxr> cloudy for what ? 10:42 * valentin hands rxr some 10:42 < valentin> to see the eclipse 10:54 < rxr> eclipse due clouds? 10:55 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium0.jpg 10:56 < valentin> this is what we would see out of our window in Berlin without athmosphere 10:56 < valentin> right now 10:56 < CIA-9> rene * r12239 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xproto/xproto.conf: * added X11Rx -> X11 symlink to xproto 10:59 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium1.jpg 10:59 < valentin> this is from portugal at theese 10:59 < valentin> minutes 10:59 < valentin> including athmosphere rendering (take a look at the halo/corona effects :) 11:01 < rxr> is that realtime GL or rendered? 11:01 < valentin> realtime 11:01 < valentin> the stellarium package i created tonight 11:02 < valentin> you can navigate through the sky in RT 11:02 < valentin> and zoom into the planets and their moon 11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium2.jpg 11:04 < valentin> another background and around 7 o clock local time 11:04 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/stellarium3.jpg 11:05 < valentin> zoom into planetary detail 11:05 < rxr> never ever hand valentin such a toy .... 11:06 < valentin> :) 11:06 < valentin> i just find it quite amazing what some oss guys do with their freetime 11:06 < valentin> they entered coordinates for 120.000 space objects 11:06 < rxr> like those T2 freaks I assume .... 11:06 < valentin> yeah 11:06 < rxr> who is mad enough creating a whle OS for free ... 11:07 < rxr> apropos amazing - we need dep tracking some time soon 11:07 < rxr> modular X forms a very nice hundreds of package dep tree ... 11:07 < valentin> you can have it, once we agree how to handle loops 11:08 < valentin> my proposal: ignore all deps to toolchain basic packages 11:08 < valentin> second, 11:08 < valentin> while building stage X, ignore deps to all packages outside that stage 11:08 < valentin> third 11:09 < valentin> wile building stage X and there is a loop, break that loop at a package that exists from a prior stage 11:09 < valentin> what do you say ? 11:11 < rxr> I want to restructure the stage stuff anyway - that should help dep tracking a lot ... 11:17 < rxr> sorry big copyright patch beeing commited in some seconds 11:17 < rxr> (just in case competors want to rip out x11-modular work any time soon) 11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r12240 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (269 files in 266 dirs): * copyright headers for the x11-modular packages 11:20 < valentin> rxr: they are allowed to rip it as long as they leave the copyright header 11:20 < rxr> yes - thus inject them quickly ,-) 11:26 < rxr> cool - new people on the t2 list ,-) 11:27 < valentin> what about this steve@itsage guy ? (almost?) no mail ever reaches him 11:27 < valentin> away for some minutes... 11:29 < rxr> you mean he is on the list and we get admin "mail not reached dest" mails back ? 11:29 < valentin> yes, for 2 months now 11:30 < valentin> bbl 11:30 < rxr> did miss that 11:30 < rxr> remove from list with vi 11:31 * rxr taking one moe hot path - damn sore throat - and then tea and s.th. to eat ... 11:32 < CIA-9> rene * r12241 /trunk/package/ (base/pkgconfig/pkgconfig.desc x11/freetype/freetype.desc): * build pkgconfig and freetype before the modular-X11 packages 11:37 < SerWou> ping valentin ? 11:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12242 /trunk/package/x11-modular/fontconfig/ (. fontconfig.cache fontconfig.desc): * added fontconfig (2.3.2) 11:49 < rxr> 2109 packages in tree 11:51 < rxr> The Wall (3SAT) 1 11:51 < rxr> Das legend?re Rockkonzert in Berlin 11:51 < rxr> (Aufzeichnung vom Potsdamer Platz, 1990) 11:51 < rxr> is that worth dumping to disk ? 11:51 < valentin> hm 11:51 < valentin> pong SerWou ? 11:52 < SerWou> i did what we talked about 11:52 < rxr> so far no built failure in my minimal-desktop-modular-x test build 11:52 < SerWou> i did a 0.0.1 version, i tested it with nano.desc it generated the same .desc file 11:53 < SerWou> wanna test it out ? 11:53 < valentin> where is it ? 11:54 < SerWou> http://serwou.free.fr/t2/ 11:56 < valentin> why do you use Rene Rebe as default ? 11:56 < rxr> I think I'll dump The Wall on disk 11:56 * rxr bath - cu 11:56 < valentin> cu 11:56 * valentin too, visitors coming in one hour 11:56 < rxr> valentin: I think we just drop monolitic xorg from trunk then, right? 11:56 < valentin> rxr: if you'd like some soup, you can come over too 11:56 < SerWou> i use the default doc example 11:57 < valentin> rxr: if modular X works, why not ? 11:57 < rxr> valentin: I do not go out today ... 11:58 < valentin> SerWou: i'd like to fill in link to package url only, and the tool should split it up into two parts 11:58 < valentin> and the number in [D] is not package size but checksum 11:59 < valentin> cu later 12:00 < SerWou> well, i don't know anything in php, but i will try ;) 12:01 < SerWou> i just wanted to know if i should stop that crap, nobody will use it or make it better 12:36 < rxr> http://slim.berlios.de/ 12:37 < rxr> ^- a c++ login manager 12:37 < rxr> I think I package it just for the fun of it 12:40 < rxr> == 12:26:41 =[5]=> Building x11-modular/xorg-server [6.99.99.900 2.2.0-alpha]. 12:40 < rxr> -> Parallel build using 2 jobs enabled. 12:40 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.xorg-server.test.20051003.122638.1946.idefix2 12:40 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out 12:40 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-xorg-server.out -> 5-xorg-server.log 12:40 < rxr> == 10/03/05 12:43:02 =[5]=> Finished building package xorg-server. 12:40 < rxr> Creating binary package file for xorg-server. 12:40 < rxr> -> Building build/.../pkgs/xorg-server-6.99.99.900.tar.lzo 12:40 < rxr> that is on my tiny number crunching sub-notebook 13:39 < CIA-9> rene * r12243 /trunk/package/fonts/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * fixed font packages to refer to X11 not X11R6 which will be outdated soon 13:43 < SerWou> how to generate a checksum for the [D] tag in the .desc file please 15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch 15:12 < jsaw> SerWou: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch | patch -p1 15:25 < rxr> re 15:51 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=ultra5@64.237.253.6] has joined #t2 15:56 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=ultra5@64.237.241.255] has joined #t2 16:07 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=ultra5@64.237.241.255] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:07 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.251.235] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:08 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.253.123] has joined #t2 16:10 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=ultra5@64.237.253.6] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:13 < SerWou> thanks jsaw 16:25 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.225.112] has joined #t2 16:25 < keinek> hi 16:41 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED25D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:29 < mnemoc> moin 17:34 < mnemoc> rxr: sunbird-0.2+ still not downloadable from gsmp 17:53 < rxr> mnemoc: hm 17:55 < mnemoc> hi rxr ;) 17:59 < CIA-9> rene * r12244 /trunk/package/x11/sunbird/sunbird.desc: * fixed sunbird custom checkout url 18:05 < valentin> re 18:05 < mnemoc> wb old man 18:06 < valentin> hi ol'mnemoc 18:06 < mnemoc> hi :) 18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: does it download now ? 18:14 < mnemoc> yes, downloading 18:14 < mnemoc> sloooooooow, but downloading 18:31 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.225.112] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:33 -!- demian [n=demian@adslnat-rai-cartago-133.ice.co.cr] has joined #t2 18:33 < mnemoc> hi demian ;) 18:33 < demian> hi. 18:33 < mnemoc> great to see you around 18:33 < demian> it sounded interesting. 18:34 < owl> .oO( i love it - 2 people talking on different channels *g* ) 18:34 < owl> hi demian :p 18:34 < demian> jaja. hi again owl :D 18:35 < owl> yeah, i love you too, demian :P 18:35 < demian> :D 18:38 < mnemoc> owl: :) 18:39 < demian> i see most of people here i met at rock are here. 18:40 < demian> and some other i dunt know.. 18:40 < owl> *g* still there are not all pepople here, who are/were rockers...;p 18:42 < mnemoc> owl: are you using t2? 18:42 < mnemoc> or just idling here? 18:42 < demian> jaja. 18:42 < demian> she is talking with me, not idling :) 18:43 < mnemoc> :p 18:44 < owl> mnemoc: no, not using... wanted to use it on the ibm rs6000 but not bootable 18:44 < mnemoc> :\ 18:44 < owl> yes 18:57 < rxr> cu later 18:57 < mnemoc> cu rxr 18:58 < demian> cyarsquare. 19:18 < demian> i got to work. have fun. 19:18 < demian> :) 19:19 -!- demian [n=demian@adslnat-rai-cartago-133.ice.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:56 < _Ragnar_> rxr: did you fix the lzop stage 0 error? 19:58 < mnemoc> nothing has changed on that 19:58 < _Ragnar_> grmfl 20:05 < mnemoc> if you wont use lzo for packaging, remove it from stage 0 20:09 -!- sparc-kly|XEON [n=labc216@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 20:18 < _Ragnar_> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 20:18 < _Ragnar_> 17962 root 18 0 2766m 887m 108 D 17.0 88.6 0:28.15 sed 20:19 < _Ragnar_> on Create-Errlist 20:20 < mnemoc> uhm 20:20 < mnemoc> repeateable? 20:37 -!- rxr_ [i=rene@e178145202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 20:37 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005] 20:37 [Users #t2] 20:37 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ nzg_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly|XEON] 20:37 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin ] 20:37 [ CIA-9 ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 20:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 20:37 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 20:37 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 20:37 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 20:37 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178128176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:42 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: hmm for every package it seems 20:49 -!- minto [n=chatzill@84.87.74.71] has joined #t2 20:49 < minto> hey folks 20:50 < owl> hi mnemoc 20:50 < owl> aeh. minto 20:50 < minto> :) hi owl 21:02 < minto> I am off again, cu all 21:03 -!- minto [n=chatzill@84.87.74.71] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 23:48 < _Ragnar_> where does PKG_CONFIG_PATH get set? --- Log closed Tue Oct 04 00:00:38 2005