T2 IRC Log: 2005-10-21
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 21 00:00:27 2005
00:12 < CIA-2> aldas * r12742 /trunk/package/kde/libkipi/libkipi.desc: * updated libkipi (0.1.1 -> 0.1.2)
00:13 < CIA-2> aldas * r12743 /trunk/package/kde/libkexif/libkexif.desc: * updated libkexif (0.2.1 -> 0.2.2)
00:22 < CIA-2> aldas * r12744 /trunk/package/archiver/tnef/tnef.desc: * updated tnef (1.3.3 -> 1.3.4)
00:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r12745 /trunk/package/network/cfengine/cfengine.desc: * updated cfengine (2.1.13 -> 2.1.16)
00:41 < CIA-2> aldas * r12746 /trunk/package/develop/libnjb/libnjb.desc: * updated libnjb (2.2.1 -> 2.2.4)
00:44 < CIA-2> aldas * r12747 /trunk/package/graphic/ocrad/ocrad.desc: * updated ocrad (0.12 -> 0.13)
00:50 < CIA-2> aldas * r12748 /trunk/package/security/pidentd/pidentd.desc: * updated pidentd (3.0.18 -> 3.0.19)
00:57 < CIA-2> aldas * r12749 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.01.14 -> 2.01.15)
01:10 < CIA-2> aldas * r12750 /trunk/package/base/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20050926 -> 20051020)
01:15 < CIA-2> aldas * r12751 /trunk/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.13 -> 0.15)
01:48 < CIA-2> aldas * r12752 /trunk/package/network/ethereal/ethereal.desc: * updated ethereal (0.10.12 -> 0.10.13)
01:50 < CIA-2> aldas * r12753 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.3.2 -> 1.3.3)
01:57 < geekitus> anyone awake ?
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03:48 < Blue_Wolf> hi
03:50 < Blue_Wolf> im having some problems with the new version, the second disk doesnt seem to work, anyone know why?
04:00 < Blue_Wolf> anyone here?
04:40 < Blue_Wolf> someone plz leave a msg in pm if they know whats wrong
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07:55 < sparc-kly|PDA> test
07:56 * sparc-kly|PDA test upirc in palm tungsten c :P
07:57 < sparc-kly> :P
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08:31 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
08:31 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
08:31 [Users #t2]
08:31 [ _Lewellyn] [ Blue_Wolf] [ lewellyn] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
08:31 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-15 ] [ mnemoc ] [ nzg ] [ sepp ] [ valentin ]
08:31 [ Baldzius ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ owl ] [ SerWou]
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08:37 < rxr> re
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08:39 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-15 ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl] [ SerWou ]
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09:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
09:41 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
09:41 [Users #t2]
09:41 [ _Lewellyn] [ Blue_Wolf] [ lewellyn] [ nzg] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
09:41 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-15 ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl] [ SerWou ]
09:41 [ Baldzius_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly]
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09:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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10:14 < Baldzius> morning
10:15 < rxr> moin Baldzius
10:16 < Baldzius> moin rxr
10:18 < SerWou> good morning
10:21 < owl> moin
10:22 < Baldzius> moin SerWou + owl :)
10:32 < rxr> hi owl
10:40 < SerWou> hey rxr, an application required "lpr" and "lpstats" to run, i emerged "lprng" but it didn't solved anything, it still looking for those 2 binaries, any idea ?
10:40 -!- Tauras [n=tauras@c183-116.i02-6.onvol.net] has joined #t2
10:41 < Tauras> hello
10:41 < SerWou> hello Tauras
10:45 < rxr> damn - gsmp is again f*cked up
10:47 < SerWou> no ideas for my problem rxr ?
10:47 < rxr> == 08:06:29 =[5]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.5 2.2.0-alpha].
10:47 < rxr> == 10/21/05 11:03:34 =[5]=> Finished building package qt.
10:47 < rxr> 270 Mhz Ultra SPARC ...
10:48 < rxr> SerWou: yes you most probably have and want lpr_cups
10:48 < rxr> setprinter_cups
10:49 < rxr> this tiny alternative system sucks - for a future version of T2 we invent something saner
10:49 < rxr> at least qt built ,-)
10:51 < SerWou> i already have lpr_cups
10:51 < Baldzius> rxr: glibc fails with Emerge-Pkg
10:52 < Baldzius> maybe i can e-mail you error?
10:53 < Baldzius> it is strange because yours reference build machine is similiar to mine
10:55 < rxr> SerWou: lpr_cups is the lpr of cups
10:56 < rxr> use serprinter_cups to create symlinks for the cups versions to the global versions
10:56 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d83-179-3-107.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2
10:57 < geekitus> hi
10:57 < SerWou> rxr, i don't have any 'serprinter_cups" around
11:01 < rxr> # which setprinter_cups
11:01 < rxr> /usr/sbin/setprinter_cups
11:01 < rxr> root@haudraufinix:~#
11:01 < rxr> on ?
11:01 < rxr> no ?
11:01 < rxr> even
11:02 < rxr> SerWou: you could create the links from lpr_cups -> lpr and so on manually to get it work right now
11:02 < SerWou> ok
11:02 < SerWou> got it
11:02 < SerWou> sv41gp5k
11:02 < SerWou> gonna try it
11:16 < rxr> cold it gets
11:26 < geekitus> does the host system need to use devfs ? (my gentoo use udev)
11:28 < rxr> geekitus: nope - T2 trunk does also already use u/dev
11:28 < rxr> I built everything on u/dev systems already
11:29 < SerWou> when devfs will come ? ;)
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11:30 < geekitus> hi sepp
11:34 < Tauras> I have successfully built intall image. How can I install it (its own content) to new machine? So I'll have minimal build system for future builds
11:37 < geekitus> arf, pb for the kernel26 : Injecting programs and configuration ...
11:37 < geekitus> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev': No such file or directory
11:37 < geekitus> Due to previous errors, no 5-linux26.log file!
11:38 < geekitus> i think that i need to install udev before
11:42 < geekitus> in rtai package :
11:43 < geekitus> /TOOLCHAIN/package/contrib/rtai/rtai.conf: line 21: scripts/config.in: No such file or directory
11:44 < CIA-15> aldas * r12754 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.6.1 -> 0.6.2)
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11:48 < geekitus> in the rtai.conf : echo "define_bool CONFIG_RTAI_RTHAL y" >> scripts/config.in
11:49 < geekitus> ls scripts/config.in
11:49 < geekitus> scripts/config.in
11:53 < rxr> RTAI is not really up-to-date
11:53 < rxr> it is a ROCK left over - and it is rotting in ROCK Linux as well
11:53 < geekitus> ok
11:53 < geekitus> i have installed udev and relaunch the build of the kerne, it should be ok now
11:54 < geekitus> in the kernel build i have : cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev': No such file or directory
11:54 < geekitus> maybe udev should be installed in default ?
12:03 < CIA-15> mtr * r12755 /trunk/package/xorg/ (67 files in 67 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated modular X.org drivers (R7RC0 -> R7RC1), including:
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-acecad (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-aiptek (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-calcomp (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-citron (2.1.1 -> 2.1.1.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-digitaledge (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:11 < geekitus> arf, an other pb :
12:11 < geekitus> cp: cannot stat `/sbin/hotplug++': No such file or directory
12:11 < geekitus> i need to install hotplug also
12:11 < rxr> hm - at what point is that ?
12:13 < geekitus> for kernel26
12:13 < rxr> which stage ?
12:13 < geekitus> seems to need udev and hotplug
12:13 < rxr> 1 or 5?
12:14 < geekitus> humm, i thinh that it's the last
12:14 < geekitus> gcc has been build 3 or four time
12:19 < geekitus> problem with hotplug++ :/
12:19 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/400748
12:20 < rxr> I can imagine
12:20 < geekitus> no luck totday ^^
12:20 < rxr> well - do you want to chroot into the system or install it ?
12:20 < geekitus> chroot
12:20 < rxr> then mv the linux26.err to linux26.log and go on
12:21 < rxr> btw. didn't you start using the 2.1-stable tree yesterday?
12:21 < rxr> you build with "work in progress trunk" ... ,-)
12:21 < geekitus> the lastest unstable cvs treee
12:21 < geekitus> it seems not a good idea :)
12:22 < rxr> well it is - just some corner cases and e.g. the minimal package selection templates are not adapted to latest kernel / u/dev changes yet
12:22 < geekitus> oh ok ^^
12:22 < geekitus> but i don't want the desktop profile
12:22 < geekitus> it's too big for me
12:23 < rxr> when you do not need a initrd right now just continue and chroot
12:23 < rxr> geekitus: cp the template to your name and add what you need ,-)
12:23 < rxr> or remove e.g. zsh ,-)
12:23 < geekitus> i already removed zsh
12:24 < geekitus> no clue to install hotplug++ and next the kernel (if i want to boot on t2 later) ?
12:25 < rxr> you can add them and rebuild
12:25 < rxr> but you need pdksh, embutils, minised and disktype for the T2 early userspace
12:26 < geekitus> i add then, but it don't compile
12:26 < geekitus> oh, missing dependancy
12:26 < geekitus> ok
12:28 < Tauras> rxr, please help: I have built install target, created CD, and booted properly. How can I install t2 on new pc?
12:28 < CIA-15> mtr * r12756 /trunk/package/xorg/ (11 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated modular X.org (R7RC0 -> R7RC1), including:
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xorg-server (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated imake (2005-10-03 -> 0.99.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated x11perf (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xf86bigfontproto (1.1 -> 1.1.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xf86dgaproto (2.0 -> 2.0.1)
12:29 < Tauras> boot target itself is minimal system, can i install it or must build other target?
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12:39 < rxr> Tauras: you must build another target
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12:40 < rxr> the handbook explains to build a target and the bootdisk and then use Create-Iso target bootdisk to build the CD
12:40 < rxr> in trunk for 2.2 we will most proably not require this extra bootdisk build anymore ...
12:43 < geekitus> hox can i force the build of disktype before the build of the kernel26 ?
12:44 < geekitus> the problem of hotplug++ is solved, now kernel26 don"t find '/usr/sbin/disktype'
12:44 < Tauras> ok, thanx
12:44 < CIA-15> aldas * r12757 /trunk/package/graphic/gnugts/gnugts.desc: * updated gnugts (0.7.3 -> 0.7.4)
12:44 < geekitus> arf, sorry , i do a mistake
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12:47 < rxr> Tauras: this was considered a feature at ROCK times ,-)
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12:52 < geekitus> distype have some dependency ..
12:52 < geekitus> lzo microcode rng-tools
12:52 < geekitus> loop-AES gc6
12:53 < geekitus> never heard what is it
12:53 < geekitus> jikes , cpufreqd
12:54 < geekitus> x86info
12:55 < sepp> cat package/*/*/disktype.cache <- this are the deps ...
12:55 < sepp> ;)
12:57 < geekitus> but why the kernel depend on disktype ?
12:57 < geekitus> (it don't wanto to build without disktype
12:57 < sepp> for initrd
12:57 < rxr> geekitus: those deps are clearly not correct :-(
12:58 < geekitus> and, if i don't need initrd , initrd is optionnal
12:58 < rxr> geekitus: not with u/dev and fully modular kernel
12:58 < sepp> disktype.cache looks good, geekitus looks at the wrong .cache i guess
12:58 < rxr> some time soon most ACPI stuff might even be in userspace ... and so on ...
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13:01 < rxr> puh - now mysql replication setup seems to work reliable ...
13:02 < rxr> oh - did I wrote seem - of course it is the most reliable replication ever ...
13:04 < rxr> sepp: do you think it is sane to allow passing arguments to certain inti scripts?
13:04 < rxr> and thus improve the "rc" program?
13:04 < rxr> like "rc mysql start --skip-slave-start"
13:04 < rxr> ?
13:11 < CIA-15> rene * r12758 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (db-master.sh db-slave.sh):
13:11 < CIA-15> * fixed archivista MySQL replication to work reliable by retrieving the
13:11 < CIA-15> bin-log position and use that as start mark on the slave (sigh),
13:11 < CIA-15> added more comments on-the-way and moved the really continue question
13:11 < CIA-15> in the db-slave.sh script to the top
13:14 -!- SerWou changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next genent Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:14 < SerWou> oups
13:14 < SerWou> ;)
13:14 < SerWou> wrong click
13:15 < SerWou> please, someone, fix the channel message
13:16 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:16 < SerWou> thanks
13:16 < SerWou> we should have not the right to modify it ;)
13:17 * rxr is not the IRC master - mnemoc ?
13:18 < SerWou> mnemoc seems away ;)
13:18 < SerWou> where i could post my 9-ghostscript.err on internet, i'm looking a website to paste it there
13:19 < rxr> http://pastebin.com/
13:19 < SerWou> that
13:19 < SerWou> bookmarking
13:19 < rxr> http://pastebin.org
13:20 < SerWou> com is the good one
13:20 < CIA-15> aldas * r12759 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.desc: * updated libungif (4.1.3 -> 4.1.4)
13:22 < SerWou> oups, paste is too big ;)
13:23 < SerWou> there you go : http://pastebin.com/400774
13:24 < SerWou> i don't understand where is the error
13:26 < Tauras> #
13:26 < Tauras> ./obj/gconfig.c:180: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
13:26 < rxr> you have selected and built both - afpl-ghostscript (the commercial one) and ghostscript
13:26 < rxr> SerWou: you must only select one of them -,)
13:27 < Tauras> the error above is from gcc 4
13:27 < rxr> the shared files is a diagnostic of the T2 build system which does not allow a file to be included in multiple packages
13:27 * rxr lunch
13:27 < SerWou> ok thanks
13:27 < SerWou> so mine -r afpl-ghostscript
13:27 < rxr> just remove one package of your target selection
13:28 < SerWou> gonna uninstall afpl
13:43 < geekitus> arf, no luck with kernel26 : cp: cannot stat `/bin/pdksh': No such file or directory , seems that i need pdksh
13:48 < geekitus> i really don't understand how it build the kernel
13:48 < geekitus> s/it/is
13:50 < Blue_Wolf> does anyone know if there is a problem with the second disk of the rc3 version?
13:51 < sepp> geekitus: you need hotplug++, disktype, embutils, minised, pdksh
13:53 < sepp> its not to build the kernel but its for the initrd ...
13:53 < geekitus> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/linux26.html
13:53 < geekitus> why : Dependencies (build time detected): 00-dirtree alsa-lib bash binutils bzip2 ccache coreutils diffutils e2fsprogs findutils gawk gcc glibc grep gzip libdnet libusb linux-header m4 make mktemp module-init-tools modutils net-tools patch perl sed sysfiles tar util-linux xorg
13:53 < geekitus> xorh ? ugh ..
13:53 < geekitus> *xorg
13:53 < sepp> yup dr?
13:55 < geekitus> why hotplug is in the list ?
13:55 < geekitus> s:hotplug:xorh
13:55 < geekitus> arf
13:55 < geekitus> s/hotplug/xorg
13:56 < sepp> dri/drm
13:56 < geekitus> oh ok
13:59 < geekitus> curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
13:59 < geekitus> curl: (9) FTP: access denied
13:59 < geekitus> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 9. Please read the curl manpage.
13:59 < geekitus> reaaly no luck lol
14:01 < rxr> geekitus: what download was that ?
14:01 < geekitus> embutils-0.17.tar.bz2
14:01 < geekitus> the last dependency for the kernel ^^
14:01 < geekitus> i think that T2 don't want that i compile my kernel
14:04 < rxr> geekitus: do you use a T2 mirror?
14:04 < geekitus> hum, i can't ping it
14:05 < rxr> ah yes gsmp is down due uni net problems ...
14:05 < rxr> rm download/Mirror
14:05 < rxr> and try again ,-)
14:06 < geekitus> ok, i understand more :)
14:28 < geekitus> oups dhcp compile error : http://pastebin.com/400809
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14:37 < kleper> hi
14:37 < kleper> mnemoc, are you here?
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14:48 < SerWou> rotfl
15:23 < rxr> geekitus: dhcp will be fixed in a second
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15:42 < CIA-15> aldas * r12760 /trunk/package/x11/xosd/ (gcc-4.0.patch xosd.desc):
15:42 < CIA-15> * updated xosd (2.2.2 -> 2.2.12)
15:42 < CIA-15> * removed gcc-4.0.patch - we don't need it anymore
15:45 < CIA-15> aldas * r12761 /trunk/package/network/licq/licq.desc: * updated licq (1.3.0 -> 1.3.2RC3)
15:50 < Baldzius> 20 minutes ago released new licq version 1.3.2
15:50 < Baldzius> superb :)
15:50 < rxr> I just wanted to sak if 1.3.2RC3 isn't a bit too up-to-date ...
15:51 < Tauras> Baldzius are u from LT?
15:52 < Baldzius> tauras: yes
15:52 < Tauras> malonu :)
15:52 < Baldzius> :)
15:52 < CIA-15> rene * r12762 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/compile.patch: * fixed dhcp to compile with the latest toolchain
15:52 < Baldzius> uzsiregistruok nikam galesim private pakalbet
15:52 < Tauras> pass savo pamirsau :(
15:53 < Baldzius> maladec :)
15:53 < Tauras> :P
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16:06 < Baldzius> hm can't update licq, seems not all mirrors synced
16:06 < Baldzius> by default i got redirected to [fr] one
16:24 < CIA-15> aldas * r12763 /trunk/package/games/allegro/allegro.desc: * updated allegro (4.2.0-beta3 -> 4.2.0-rc2)
16:30 < SerWou> hello back
16:32 < SerWou> i tried to find a solution yesterday with mnemoc, but no issu :-( so i repost here my problem again : http://pastebin.com/400906
16:48 < CIA-15> aldas * r12764 /trunk/package/security/libchipcard2/libchipcard2.conf: * added .conf - it searches libsysfs.so in /lib (libtool issue)
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17:28 < keinek> hi everbody.
17:28 < keinek> new version of open office 2 is out.
17:28 < keinek> but ...
17:28 < keinek> only .deb or .rpm package.
17:29 < keinek> i use .sh installer in t2 :(
17:29 < keinek> no more .sh
17:29 < keinek> :(
17:34 < CIA-15> aldas * r12765 /trunk/package/games/bzflag/bzflag.desc: * updated bzflag (2.0.0 -> 2.0.4)
17:37 < SerWou> maybe it will come
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18:20 < rxr> kleper: we have a ooo package
18:22 < kleper> rxr, ooo for t2? (you refer to openOffice?
18:22 < mnemoc> sure
18:22 < mnemoc> we have ooo m193 iirc
18:22 < mnemoc> from ximian branch
18:22 < kleper> i see than on the repository of t2
18:24 < mnemoc> feel free to update to m3 from http://www.go-ooo.org/packages/OOO680/?C=M;O=D
18:24 < kleper> i using t2 on my laptop :D later a lot of time to try compile i can compile any usable for me :D
18:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
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18:40 < misl> hi folks
18:46 < rxr> wb misl ,-)
18:47 < misl> hi rxr
18:48 < rxr> .oO(kdelibs build with svn commit the same time brings my tiny sparc into deep swapping)
18:49 < CIA-15> rene * r12766 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:49 < CIA-15> * moved x86-64 config.{sub,guess} updating to autoconf itself and added
18:49 < CIA-15> checking for sparcv9b ,-)
18:50 < rxr> guess I will inject another 128MB from the uni box and bring those instable beasts back to them ..
18:50 < rxr> .oO(CIA notification before svn's .svn meta info writing is complete - this box is really out of RAM ...)
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18:51 < CIA-15> aldas * r12767 /trunk/package/network/licq/licq.desc: * updated licq (1.3.2RC3 -> 1.3.2)
18:52 < rxr> Cpu(s): 4.0% user, 4.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 91.6% IO-wait
18:52 < rxr> Mem: 125248k total, 124504k used, 744k free, 1568k buffers
18:52 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 122176k used, 139952k free, 7672k cached
18:52 < rxr> .oO
18:52 < rxr> ok - kdelibs does not yet compile too long - I shutdown and inject more RAM ,-)
18:53 < rxr> oh - tiny sparc is already up 5 days ...
18:53 < rxr> without a random segfault - not like thos faster but randomly segfaulting uni boxes ...
18:55 < rxr> I'm currently thinging whether I should buy a 750 Mhz Ultra SPARC III
18:55 < rxr> currently this is a 270Mhz Ultra SPARC IIi ...
18:55 < rxr> IIi is intentional - 2i ...
18:56 < CIA-15> aldas * r12768 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/erlang-otp.desc: * updated erlang-otp (R10B-4 -> R10B-7)
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19:00 < CIA-15> aldas * r12769 /trunk/package/graphic/wings3d/wings3d.desc: * updated wings3d (0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a)
19:04 < menomc> hi rxr!
19:05 < menomc> Baldzius: no ooo update yet? ;)
19:05 < Baldzius> mnemoc: :)
19:06 < menomc> :)
19:08 < misl> hi menomc
19:09 < menomc> hi misl
19:11 < misl> rxr: lot's of errors in regtest build. A Lot of the archs even stopped at the 3rd package :(
19:11 < rxr> misl: I know
19:11 < rxr> ./tdb/spinlock.h:29:2: error: #error Need to implement spinlock code in spinlock.h
19:11 < rxr> ^- samba on sparc64 ...
19:12 < rxr> misl: this is due the gcc and glibc updates
19:12 < rxr> some fixes need to propagate thru
19:12 < menomc> uhm
19:12 < misl> ahh
19:12 < rxr> also s.e. some would build when the default to linuxthreads instead of the new nptl
19:13 < rxr> I'll add some config case ; esac to decide per arch what to default to
19:13 < rxr> and m86k and cris have only been added proof of concept to see how far they build ,-9
19:13 < rxr> sh64 might be removed again since no 64bit userspace available - the same might apply to hppa64
19:14 < rxr> misl: so far I wanted an overview and cache warmup
19:14 < rxr> the next builds will be faster and with one patch and config tweak here and there improve significantly
19:14 < rxr> let's see how stable the sparc is with 2 RAMs of the uni machines ... ,-)
19:15 < misl> Good that ccache saves us time :)
19:15 < rxr> misl: ack - and good that I implemented caching stage-0 ,-)
19:15 < rxr> it is quite sad to see that all the configure stuff is wasting so much of our time
19:16 < rxr> with ccache the time comes down so that this configure and Makefile.* expansion consumes most time :-(
19:17 * menomc downloading ooo680-m3 sources
19:18 < menomc> auto{conf,make} and libtool are harmfull :\
19:21 < misl> maybe someday we find a way to speed up those :)
19:24 < sepp> ohh no unstable wings3d, as if wings is not unstable enough :(
19:25 < menomc> 0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a <--- stable to unstable?
19:25 < sepp> yup
19:25 < menomc> o.o
19:25 < menomc> what on that versioning tells people what is stable and what not?
19:25 < sepp> thats i strange naming theme but thats what wings :)
19:26 < menomc> uhm
19:26 < sepp> i have no clue - the hompage tells it
19:26 < menomc> Latest Stable Rel: 0.98.29b
19:26 < sepp> Latest Stable Rel: 0.98.29b - Development Rel: 0.98.32a
19:26 < menomc> Development Rel: 0.98.32a
19:26 < menomc> :p
19:26 < sepp> hehe
19:27 < menomc> so they are like openldap
19:27 < menomc> lot of releases and randomly labeled 'stable'
19:29 < owl> re
19:29 < menomc> wb owlinette
19:29 < Baldzius> i am updating packages which fails on rxr reference build
19:30 < sepp> wings failed because that erlang thingy misdeteced glibc version ;)
19:30 < rxr> ./tdb/spinlock.h:29:2: error: #error Need to implement spinlock code in spinlock.h
19:31 < Baldzius> ups :)
19:31 < rxr> Cpu(s): 99.0% user, 1.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 0.0% IO-wait
19:31 < rxr> Mem: 253400k total, 252128k used, 1272k free, 8592k buffers
19:31 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 0k used, 262128k free, 77568k cached
19:31 < rxr> ^- sparc after injecting the 2nd 128MB of RAM ...
19:31 < rxr> those who missed that fun:
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Cpu(s): 4.0% user, 4.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 91.6% IO-wait
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Mem: 125248k total, 124504k used, 744k free, 1568k buffers
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 122176k used, 139952k free, 7672k cached
19:32 < menomc> building with less than 256 of phisical memory is not fun
19:33 < rxr> menomc: you need a renick
19:33 < sepp> i was building pixie some time ago with 512mb ram and no swap and g++ was running out of mem :P
19:33 < rxr> sepp: building pixie on my athlon with 512 MB RAM and equally swap kills the machine ...
19:34 < sepp> uhm
19:34 < rxr> hat to reset it twice last week
19:34 < rxr> had
19:34 < rxr> and even tried a kernel update ...
19:34 < sepp> i tested it yesterday since your .err was empty - no problem here
19:34 < rxr> 2.6.12 -> 2.6.14-rc4-dist did not help
19:34 < rxr> sepp: gcc-4.0.x ?
19:34 < sepp> yes
19:34 < rxr> uhm
19:35 < sepp> 1gb ram 1gb swap
19:35 < rxr> Mem: 515664 Swap: 265032
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19:35 < sepp> lastest greatest trunk
19:35 < rxr> I could try on the rs6k - that has 768 MB RAM or so ...
19:35 < rxr> though it is dog slow and the 370Mhz CPU might need over a week to reach that point ...
19:36 < rxr> I'll try to narrow this issue down
19:36 < rxr> neither should the kernel stall in such a way by a single user process nor should gcc consume so much memory ..
19:36 < rxr> I think I submit a preprocessed file with flags to the bugzilla ..
19:36 < rxr> 8151 root 25 0 56560 49m 5872 R 97.7 19.9 0:29.56 cc1plus
19:36 < rxr> ^- c++ files from kdelibs on a 270Mhz box ...
19:37 < rxr> 0:53.10 cc1plus
19:37 < rxr> 1:04.89 cc1plus
19:37 < rxr> if we want to contineu supporting SPARC we should get a faster box ... ,-)
19:37 < rxr> ah - finished ,-)
19:37 < rxr> over one minute per file ...
19:38 < rxr> or we should get cross build everything going
19:38 < rxr> hey - or improve the distcc support so I can migrate all boxes c and c++ compiler invocation to faster boxes ,-)
19:40 < rxr> sepp: thanks for packaging package/x11/torsmo - wanted to inject it todays as well when I noticed it is already there ,-)
19:41 < sepp> :D
19:41 < sepp> i saw it on some screenshots and found it nice
19:42 < misl> rxr: I sometimes get offered second hand sparcs. I will drop you a note next time one comes by.
19:43 < rxr> misl: there is one at ebay I might bid for
19:43 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5820749248&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
19:44 < rxr> though I wonder if I rather should get an alpha and continue building sparc slowly but steady and rather get alpha binaries out of t2
19:44 < rxr> though alpha is a bit dead
19:45 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5819636932&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
19:45 < misl> click
19:46 < misl> both look nice
19:47 < rxr> or whether I should focus more in mainstream - where we are likely ot gain more people easier ,-)
19:47 < rxr> 7:54.95 cc1plus
19:48 < rxr> ok - I close top now - this is too disappointing to watch
19:48 < rxr> with some luck kdelibs for sparcv9b will be finsiehd tomorrow morning ,-)
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19:51 < rxr> 11:45.97 cc1plus
19:51 < rxr> ouhm
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20:31 < sparc-kly> hi all
20:36 < CIA-15> aldas * r12770 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools-backends/gnome-system-tools-backends.desc: * updated gnome-system-tools-backends (1.2.0 -> 1.4.0)
20:59 < rxr> Baldzius, the master of updates
20:59 < Baldzius> thanks :)
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21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: can you comment on rc / init with arguments?
21:09 * rxr dinner
21:09 < rxr> cu
21:31 < CIA-15> aldas * r12771 /trunk/package/base/hal/hal.desc: * updated hal (0.5.2 -> 0.5.4)
21:32 < CIA-15> aldas * r12772 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager.desc: * updated gnome-volume-manager (1.5.2 -> 1.5.3)
21:33 < sepp> Baldzius: esdl compiled with the updated erlang?
21:35 < CIA-15> aldas * r12773 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/hal50.patch:
21:35 < CIA-15> * removed hal50.patch from gnome-volume-manager, i think we
21:35 < CIA-15> don't need it , pls fix me
21:36 < Baldzius> sepp: iirc
21:36 < Baldzius> i'll test
21:36 < sepp> thanks :)
21:37 < Baldzius> sepp: yes , compiles fine
21:37 < Baldzius> tried 2x
21:37 < sepp> :)
21:39 < Baldzius> now i remembed, i compiled esdl before commiting erlang :)
21:39 < Baldzius> wings3d also :)
21:40 < sepp> the old (stable) wings did not work with new erlang?
21:41 < Baldzius> compiles new and old
21:41 < Baldzius> both
21:41 < sepp> ok
21:41 < Baldzius> but i updated first and when you said it's unstable i tried downgrade locally
21:42 < Baldzius> their stable is quite out-dated
21:42 < sepp> last time i tried unstable it was a mess :(
21:44 < Baldzius> and versioning hm i would never guess that it's unstable
21:45 < sepp> hehe
21:45 < sepp> mc
21:45 < sepp> lol
21:45 < CIA-15> sebastian * r12774 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/glibc.patch: * patched erlang for new glibc
21:47 < Baldzius> i can't update to new glibc with Emerge
21:47 < Baldzius> never had this problem before
21:47 < sepp> which problem?
21:48 < Baldzius> compile
21:48 < Baldzius> glibc
21:48 < sepp> glibc is blacklisted
21:48 < Baldzius> me whitelisted :)
21:49 < Baldzius> i tried it once, everything was fine
21:49 < Baldzius> now it fails
21:49 < Baldzius> with new glibc ofcourse
21:50 < Baldzius> said it to rxr but he didn't respond
21:50 < sepp> what fails?
21:50 < Baldzius> it's not so important i can live as it is
21:50 < Baldzius> hm can't say now, i can start compile
21:51 < Baldzius> it will take some time
22:11 < Baldzius> sepp: error is quite big
22:11 < Baldzius> t/t2/trunk/src.glibc.default.20051021.223450.4106.localhost/glibc-20050919/objdir/malloc/memusage.os
22:11 < Baldzius> memusage.c:73: error: syntax error before 'calls'
22:12 < Baldzius> min 200 lines :)
22:13 < rxr> what optimization do you build for ?
22:14 < Baldzius> generic
22:16 < rxr> like i385 ?
22:16 < rxr> i386 ...
22:16 < rxr> you need at least 486 for NPTL / TLS in glibc
22:16 < rxr> when you scroll around in your error you will see some #error arch not supported bla blubs atomic instruction a-like
22:21 < Baldzius> recompiling, hope it won't crash my system :)
22:23 < rxr> do you built directly into your running system?
22:23 < Baldzius> yes
22:23 < rxr> that will not work for the case injectingt a NPTL glibc into your linuxthreads system ...
22:24 < rxr> don't do that ,-)
22:24 < Baldzius> ok :)
22:24 < rxr> Build-Target a whole NPTL system and try chroot()ing or booting that,-)
22:24 < rxr> n8 all ,-)
22:24 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr
22:26 < sepp> good night rxr
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23:29 < sepp> good night *
23:29 < Baldzius> gn8 sepp
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01:57 < geekitus> anyone awake ?
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03:48 < Blue_Wolf> hi
03:50 < Blue_Wolf> im having some problems with the new version, the second disk doesnt seem to work, anyone know why?
04:00 < Blue_Wolf> anyone here?
04:40 < Blue_Wolf> someone plz leave a msg in pm if they know whats wrong
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07:57 < sparc-kly> :P
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10:14 < Baldzius> morning
10:15 < rxr> moin Baldzius
10:16 < Baldzius> moin rxr
10:18 < SerWou> good morning
10:21 < owl> moin
10:22 < Baldzius> moin SerWou + owl :)
10:32 < rxr> hi owl
10:40 < SerWou> hey rxr, an application required "lpr" and "lpstats" to run, i emerged "lprng" but it didn't solved anything, it still looking for those 2 binaries, any idea ?
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10:41 < Tauras> hello
10:41 < SerWou> hello Tauras
10:45 < rxr> damn - gsmp is again f*cked up
10:47 < SerWou> no ideas for my problem rxr ?
10:47 < rxr> == 08:06:29 =[5]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.5 2.2.0-alpha].
10:47 < rxr> == 10/21/05 11:03:34 =[5]=> Finished building package qt.
10:47 < rxr> 270 Mhz Ultra SPARC ...
10:48 < rxr> SerWou: yes you most probably have and want lpr_cups
10:48 < rxr> setprinter_cups
10:49 < rxr> this tiny alternative system sucks - for a future version of T2 we invent something saner
10:49 < rxr> at least qt built ,-)
10:51 < SerWou> i already have lpr_cups
10:51 < Baldzius> rxr: glibc fails with Emerge-Pkg
10:52 < Baldzius> maybe i can e-mail you error?
10:53 < Baldzius> it is strange because yours reference build machine is similiar to mine
10:55 < rxr> SerWou: lpr_cups is the lpr of cups
10:56 < rxr> use serprinter_cups to create symlinks for the cups versions to the global versions
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10:57 < geekitus> hi
10:57 < SerWou> rxr, i don't have any 'serprinter_cups" around
11:01 < rxr> # which setprinter_cups
11:01 < rxr> /usr/sbin/setprinter_cups
11:01 < rxr> root@haudraufinix:~#
11:01 < rxr> on ?
11:01 < rxr> no ?
11:01 < rxr> even
11:02 < rxr> SerWou: you could create the links from lpr_cups -> lpr and so on manually to get it work right now
11:02 < SerWou> ok
11:02 < SerWou> got it
11:02 < SerWou> sv41gp5k
11:02 < SerWou> gonna try it
11:16 < rxr> cold it gets
11:26 < geekitus> does the host system need to use devfs ? (my gentoo use udev)
11:28 < rxr> geekitus: nope - T2 trunk does also already use u/dev
11:28 < rxr> I built everything on u/dev systems already
11:29 < SerWou> when devfs will come ? ;)
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11:30 < geekitus> hi sepp
11:34 < Tauras> I have successfully built intall image. How can I install it (its own content) to new machine? So I'll have minimal build system for future builds
11:37 < geekitus> arf, pb for the kernel26 : Injecting programs and configuration ...
11:37 < geekitus> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev': No such file or directory
11:37 < geekitus> Due to previous errors, no 5-linux26.log file!
11:38 < geekitus> i think that i need to install udev before
11:42 < geekitus> in rtai package :
11:43 < geekitus> /TOOLCHAIN/package/contrib/rtai/rtai.conf: line 21: scripts/config.in: No such file or directory
11:44 < CIA-15> aldas * r12754 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.6.1 -> 0.6.2)
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11:48 < geekitus> in the rtai.conf : echo "define_bool CONFIG_RTAI_RTHAL y" >> scripts/config.in
11:49 < geekitus> ls scripts/config.in
11:49 < geekitus> scripts/config.in
11:53 < rxr> RTAI is not really up-to-date
11:53 < rxr> it is a ROCK left over - and it is rotting in ROCK Linux as well
11:53 < geekitus> ok
11:53 < geekitus> i have installed udev and relaunch the build of the kerne, it should be ok now
11:54 < geekitus> in the kernel build i have : cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev': No such file or directory
11:54 < geekitus> maybe udev should be installed in default ?
12:03 < CIA-15> mtr * r12755 /trunk/package/xorg/ (67 files in 67 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated modular X.org drivers (R7RC0 -> R7RC1), including:
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-acecad (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-aiptek (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-calcomp (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-citron (2.1.1 -> 2.1.1.1)
12:03 < CIA-15> * updated xf86-input-digitaledge (1.0.0 -> 1.0.0.1)
12:11 < geekitus> arf, an other pb :
12:11 < geekitus> cp: cannot stat `/sbin/hotplug++': No such file or directory
12:11 < geekitus> i need to install hotplug also
12:11 < rxr> hm - at what point is that ?
12:13 < geekitus> for kernel26
12:13 < rxr> which stage ?
12:13 < geekitus> seems to need udev and hotplug
12:13 < rxr> 1 or 5?
12:14 < geekitus> humm, i thinh that it's the last
12:14 < geekitus> gcc has been build 3 or four time
12:19 < geekitus> problem with hotplug++ :/
12:19 < geekitus> http://pastebin.com/400748
12:20 < rxr> I can imagine
12:20 < geekitus> no luck totday ^^
12:20 < rxr> well - do you want to chroot into the system or install it ?
12:20 < geekitus> chroot
12:20 < rxr> then mv the linux26.err to linux26.log and go on
12:21 < rxr> btw. didn't you start using the 2.1-stable tree yesterday?
12:21 < rxr> you build with "work in progress trunk" ... ,-)
12:21 < geekitus> the lastest unstable cvs treee
12:21 < geekitus> it seems not a good idea :)
12:22 < rxr> well it is - just some corner cases and e.g. the minimal package selection templates are not adapted to latest kernel / u/dev changes yet
12:22 < geekitus> oh ok ^^
12:22 < geekitus> but i don't want the desktop profile
12:22 < geekitus> it's too big for me
12:23 < rxr> when you do not need a initrd right now just continue and chroot
12:23 < rxr> geekitus: cp the template to your name and add what you need ,-)
12:23 < rxr> or remove e.g. zsh ,-)
12:23 < geekitus> i already removed zsh
12:24 < geekitus> no clue to install hotplug++ and next the kernel (if i want to boot on t2 later) ?
12:25 < rxr> you can add them and rebuild
12:25 < rxr> but you need pdksh, embutils, minised and disktype for the T2 early userspace
12:26 < geekitus> i add then, but it don't compile
12:26 < geekitus> oh, missing dependancy
12:26 < geekitus> ok
12:28 < Tauras> rxr, please help: I have built install target, created CD, and booted properly. How can I install t2 on new pc?
12:28 < CIA-15> mtr * r12756 /trunk/package/xorg/ (11 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated modular X.org (R7RC0 -> R7RC1), including:
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xorg-server (0.99.1 -> 0.99.2)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated imake (2005-10-03 -> 0.99.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated x11perf (0.99.0 -> 0.99.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xf86bigfontproto (1.1 -> 1.1.1)
12:28 < CIA-15> * updated xf86dgaproto (2.0 -> 2.0.1)
12:29 < Tauras> boot target itself is minimal system, can i install it or must build other target?
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12:39 < rxr> Tauras: you must build another target
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12:40 < rxr> the handbook explains to build a target and the bootdisk and then use Create-Iso target bootdisk to build the CD
12:40 < rxr> in trunk for 2.2 we will most proably not require this extra bootdisk build anymore ...
12:43 < geekitus> hox can i force the build of disktype before the build of the kernel26 ?
12:44 < geekitus> the problem of hotplug++ is solved, now kernel26 don"t find '/usr/sbin/disktype'
12:44 < Tauras> ok, thanx
12:44 < CIA-15> aldas * r12757 /trunk/package/graphic/gnugts/gnugts.desc: * updated gnugts (0.7.3 -> 0.7.4)
12:44 < geekitus> arf, sorry , i do a mistake
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12:47 < rxr> Tauras: this was considered a feature at ROCK times ,-)
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12:52 < geekitus> distype have some dependency ..
12:52 < geekitus> lzo microcode rng-tools
12:52 < geekitus> loop-AES gc6
12:53 < geekitus> never heard what is it
12:53 < geekitus> jikes , cpufreqd
12:54 < geekitus> x86info
12:55 < sepp> cat package/*/*/disktype.cache <- this are the deps ...
12:55 < sepp> ;)
12:57 < geekitus> but why the kernel depend on disktype ?
12:57 < geekitus> (it don't wanto to build without disktype
12:57 < sepp> for initrd
12:57 < rxr> geekitus: those deps are clearly not correct :-(
12:58 < geekitus> and, if i don't need initrd , initrd is optionnal
12:58 < rxr> geekitus: not with u/dev and fully modular kernel
12:58 < sepp> disktype.cache looks good, geekitus looks at the wrong .cache i guess
12:58 < rxr> some time soon most ACPI stuff might even be in userspace ... and so on ...
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13:01 < rxr> puh - now mysql replication setup seems to work reliable ...
13:02 < rxr> oh - did I wrote seem - of course it is the most reliable replication ever ...
13:04 < rxr> sepp: do you think it is sane to allow passing arguments to certain inti scripts?
13:04 < rxr> and thus improve the "rc" program?
13:04 < rxr> like "rc mysql start --skip-slave-start"
13:04 < rxr> ?
13:11 < CIA-15> rene * r12758 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (db-master.sh db-slave.sh):
13:11 < CIA-15> * fixed archivista MySQL replication to work reliable by retrieving the
13:11 < CIA-15> bin-log position and use that as start mark on the slave (sigh),
13:11 < CIA-15> added more comments on-the-way and moved the really continue question
13:11 < CIA-15> in the db-slave.sh script to the top
13:14 -!- SerWou changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next genent Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:14 < SerWou> oups
13:14 < SerWou> ;)
13:14 < SerWou> wrong click
13:15 < SerWou> please, someone, fix the channel message
13:16 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:16 < SerWou> thanks
13:16 < SerWou> we should have not the right to modify it ;)
13:17 * rxr is not the IRC master - mnemoc ?
13:18 < SerWou> mnemoc seems away ;)
13:18 < SerWou> where i could post my 9-ghostscript.err on internet, i'm looking a website to paste it there
13:19 < rxr> http://pastebin.com/
13:19 < SerWou> that
13:19 < SerWou> bookmarking
13:19 < rxr> http://pastebin.org
13:20 < SerWou> com is the good one
13:20 < CIA-15> aldas * r12759 /trunk/package/graphic/libungif/libungif.desc: * updated libungif (4.1.3 -> 4.1.4)
13:22 < SerWou> oups, paste is too big ;)
13:23 < SerWou> there you go : http://pastebin.com/400774
13:24 < SerWou> i don't understand where is the error
13:26 < Tauras> #
13:26 < Tauras> ./obj/gconfig.c:180: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
13:26 < rxr> you have selected and built both - afpl-ghostscript (the commercial one) and ghostscript
13:26 < rxr> SerWou: you must only select one of them -,)
13:27 < Tauras> the error above is from gcc 4
13:27 < rxr> the shared files is a diagnostic of the T2 build system which does not allow a file to be included in multiple packages
13:27 * rxr lunch
13:27 < SerWou> ok thanks
13:27 < SerWou> so mine -r afpl-ghostscript
13:27 < rxr> just remove one package of your target selection
13:28 < SerWou> gonna uninstall afpl
13:43 < geekitus> arf, no luck with kernel26 : cp: cannot stat `/bin/pdksh': No such file or directory , seems that i need pdksh
13:48 < geekitus> i really don't understand how it build the kernel
13:48 < geekitus> s/it/is
13:50 < Blue_Wolf> does anyone know if there is a problem with the second disk of the rc3 version?
13:51 < sepp> geekitus: you need hotplug++, disktype, embutils, minised, pdksh
13:53 < sepp> its not to build the kernel but its for the initrd ...
13:53 < geekitus> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/linux26.html
13:53 < geekitus> why : Dependencies (build time detected): 00-dirtree alsa-lib bash binutils bzip2 ccache coreutils diffutils e2fsprogs findutils gawk gcc glibc grep gzip libdnet libusb linux-header m4 make mktemp module-init-tools modutils net-tools patch perl sed sysfiles tar util-linux xorg
13:53 < geekitus> xorh ? ugh ..
13:53 < geekitus> *xorg
13:53 < sepp> yup dr?
13:55 < geekitus> why hotplug is in the list ?
13:55 < geekitus> s:hotplug:xorh
13:55 < geekitus> arf
13:55 < geekitus> s/hotplug/xorg
13:56 < sepp> dri/drm
13:56 < geekitus> oh ok
13:59 < geekitus> curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
13:59 < geekitus> curl: (9) FTP: access denied
13:59 < geekitus> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 9. Please read the curl manpage.
13:59 < geekitus> reaaly no luck lol
14:01 < rxr> geekitus: what download was that ?
14:01 < geekitus> embutils-0.17.tar.bz2
14:01 < geekitus> the last dependency for the kernel ^^
14:01 < geekitus> i think that T2 don't want that i compile my kernel
14:04 < rxr> geekitus: do you use a T2 mirror?
14:04 < geekitus> hum, i can't ping it
14:05 < rxr> ah yes gsmp is down due uni net problems ...
14:05 < rxr> rm download/Mirror
14:05 < rxr> and try again ,-)
14:06 < geekitus> ok, i understand more :)
14:28 < geekitus> oups dhcp compile error : http://pastebin.com/400809
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14:37 < kleper> hi
14:37 < kleper> mnemoc, are you here?
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14:48 < SerWou> rotfl
15:23 < rxr> geekitus: dhcp will be fixed in a second
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15:42 < CIA-15> aldas * r12760 /trunk/package/x11/xosd/ (gcc-4.0.patch xosd.desc):
15:42 < CIA-15> * updated xosd (2.2.2 -> 2.2.12)
15:42 < CIA-15> * removed gcc-4.0.patch - we don't need it anymore
15:45 < CIA-15> aldas * r12761 /trunk/package/network/licq/licq.desc: * updated licq (1.3.0 -> 1.3.2RC3)
15:50 < Baldzius> 20 minutes ago released new licq version 1.3.2
15:50 < Baldzius> superb :)
15:50 < rxr> I just wanted to sak if 1.3.2RC3 isn't a bit too up-to-date ...
15:51 < Tauras> Baldzius are u from LT?
15:52 < Baldzius> tauras: yes
15:52 < Tauras> malonu :)
15:52 < Baldzius> :)
15:52 < CIA-15> rene * r12762 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/compile.patch: * fixed dhcp to compile with the latest toolchain
15:52 < Baldzius> uzsiregistruok nikam galesim private pakalbet
15:52 < Tauras> pass savo pamirsau :(
15:53 < Baldzius> maladec :)
15:53 < Tauras> :P
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16:06 < Baldzius> hm can't update licq, seems not all mirrors synced
16:06 < Baldzius> by default i got redirected to [fr] one
16:24 < CIA-15> aldas * r12763 /trunk/package/games/allegro/allegro.desc: * updated allegro (4.2.0-beta3 -> 4.2.0-rc2)
16:30 < SerWou> hello back
16:32 < SerWou> i tried to find a solution yesterday with mnemoc, but no issu :-( so i repost here my problem again : http://pastebin.com/400906
16:48 < CIA-15> aldas * r12764 /trunk/package/security/libchipcard2/libchipcard2.conf: * added .conf - it searches libsysfs.so in /lib (libtool issue)
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17:28 < keinek> hi everbody.
17:28 < keinek> new version of open office 2 is out.
17:28 < keinek> but ...
17:28 < keinek> only .deb or .rpm package.
17:29 < keinek> i use .sh installer in t2 :(
17:29 < keinek> no more .sh
17:29 < keinek> :(
17:34 < CIA-15> aldas * r12765 /trunk/package/games/bzflag/bzflag.desc: * updated bzflag (2.0.0 -> 2.0.4)
17:37 < SerWou> maybe it will come
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18:20 < rxr> kleper: we have a ooo package
18:22 < kleper> rxr, ooo for t2? (you refer to openOffice?
18:22 < mnemoc> sure
18:22 < mnemoc> we have ooo m193 iirc
18:22 < mnemoc> from ximian branch
18:22 < kleper> i see than on the repository of t2
18:24 < mnemoc> feel free to update to m3 from http://www.go-ooo.org/packages/OOO680/?C=M;O=D
18:24 < kleper> i using t2 on my laptop :D later a lot of time to try compile i can compile any usable for me :D
18:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
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18:40 < misl> hi folks
18:46 < rxr> wb misl ,-)
18:47 < misl> hi rxr
18:48 < rxr> .oO(kdelibs build with svn commit the same time brings my tiny sparc into deep swapping)
18:49 < CIA-15> rene * r12766 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:49 < CIA-15> * moved x86-64 config.{sub,guess} updating to autoconf itself and added
18:49 < CIA-15> checking for sparcv9b ,-)
18:50 < rxr> guess I will inject another 128MB from the uni box and bring those instable beasts back to them ..
18:50 < rxr> .oO(CIA notification before svn's .svn meta info writing is complete - this box is really out of RAM ...)
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18:51 < CIA-15> aldas * r12767 /trunk/package/network/licq/licq.desc: * updated licq (1.3.2RC3 -> 1.3.2)
18:52 < rxr> Cpu(s): 4.0% user, 4.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 91.6% IO-wait
18:52 < rxr> Mem: 125248k total, 124504k used, 744k free, 1568k buffers
18:52 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 122176k used, 139952k free, 7672k cached
18:52 < rxr> .oO
18:52 < rxr> ok - kdelibs does not yet compile too long - I shutdown and inject more RAM ,-)
18:53 < rxr> oh - tiny sparc is already up 5 days ...
18:53 < rxr> without a random segfault - not like thos faster but randomly segfaulting uni boxes ...
18:55 < rxr> I'm currently thinging whether I should buy a 750 Mhz Ultra SPARC III
18:55 < rxr> currently this is a 270Mhz Ultra SPARC IIi ...
18:55 < rxr> IIi is intentional - 2i ...
18:56 < CIA-15> aldas * r12768 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/erlang-otp.desc: * updated erlang-otp (R10B-4 -> R10B-7)
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19:00 < CIA-15> aldas * r12769 /trunk/package/graphic/wings3d/wings3d.desc: * updated wings3d (0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a)
19:04 < menomc> hi rxr!
19:05 < menomc> Baldzius: no ooo update yet? ;)
19:05 < Baldzius> mnemoc: :)
19:06 < menomc> :)
19:08 < misl> hi menomc
19:09 < menomc> hi misl
19:11 < misl> rxr: lot's of errors in regtest build. A Lot of the archs even stopped at the 3rd package :(
19:11 < rxr> misl: I know
19:11 < rxr> ./tdb/spinlock.h:29:2: error: #error Need to implement spinlock code in spinlock.h
19:11 < rxr> ^- samba on sparc64 ...
19:12 < rxr> misl: this is due the gcc and glibc updates
19:12 < rxr> some fixes need to propagate thru
19:12 < menomc> uhm
19:12 < misl> ahh
19:12 < rxr> also s.e. some would build when the default to linuxthreads instead of the new nptl
19:13 < rxr> I'll add some config case ; esac to decide per arch what to default to
19:13 < rxr> and m86k and cris have only been added proof of concept to see how far they build ,-9
19:13 < rxr> sh64 might be removed again since no 64bit userspace available - the same might apply to hppa64
19:14 < rxr> misl: so far I wanted an overview and cache warmup
19:14 < rxr> the next builds will be faster and with one patch and config tweak here and there improve significantly
19:14 < rxr> let's see how stable the sparc is with 2 RAMs of the uni machines ... ,-)
19:15 < misl> Good that ccache saves us time :)
19:15 < rxr> misl: ack - and good that I implemented caching stage-0 ,-)
19:15 < rxr> it is quite sad to see that all the configure stuff is wasting so much of our time
19:16 < rxr> with ccache the time comes down so that this configure and Makefile.* expansion consumes most time :-(
19:17 * menomc downloading ooo680-m3 sources
19:18 < menomc> auto{conf,make} and libtool are harmfull :\
19:21 < misl> maybe someday we find a way to speed up those :)
19:24 < sepp> ohh no unstable wings3d, as if wings is not unstable enough :(
19:25 < menomc> 0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a <--- stable to unstable?
19:25 < sepp> yup
19:25 < menomc> o.o
19:25 < menomc> what on that versioning tells people what is stable and what not?
19:25 < sepp> thats i strange naming theme but thats what wings :)
19:26 < menomc> uhm
19:26 < sepp> i have no clue - the hompage tells it
19:26 < menomc> Latest Stable Rel: 0.98.29b
19:26 < sepp> Latest Stable Rel: 0.98.29b - Development Rel: 0.98.32a
19:26 < menomc> Development Rel: 0.98.32a
19:26 < menomc> :p
19:26 < sepp> hehe
19:27 < menomc> so they are like openldap
19:27 < menomc> lot of releases and randomly labeled 'stable'
19:29 < owl> re
19:29 < menomc> wb owlinette
19:29 < Baldzius> i am updating packages which fails on rxr reference build
19:30 < sepp> wings failed because that erlang thingy misdeteced glibc version ;)
19:30 < rxr> ./tdb/spinlock.h:29:2: error: #error Need to implement spinlock code in spinlock.h
19:31 < Baldzius> ups :)
19:31 < rxr> Cpu(s): 99.0% user, 1.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 0.0% IO-wait
19:31 < rxr> Mem: 253400k total, 252128k used, 1272k free, 8592k buffers
19:31 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 0k used, 262128k free, 77568k cached
19:31 < rxr> ^- sparc after injecting the 2nd 128MB of RAM ...
19:31 < rxr> those who missed that fun:
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Cpu(s): 4.0% user, 4.3% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle, 91.6% IO-wait
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Mem: 125248k total, 124504k used, 744k free, 1568k buffers
19:31 < rxr> 18:52 < rxr> Swap: 262128k total, 122176k used, 139952k free, 7672k cached
19:32 < menomc> building with less than 256 of phisical memory is not fun
19:33 < rxr> menomc: you need a renick
19:33 < sepp> i was building pixie some time ago with 512mb ram and no swap and g++ was running out of mem :P
19:33 < rxr> sepp: building pixie on my athlon with 512 MB RAM and equally swap kills the machine ...
19:34 < sepp> uhm
19:34 < rxr> hat to reset it twice last week
19:34 < rxr> had
19:34 < rxr> and even tried a kernel update ...
19:34 < sepp> i tested it yesterday since your .err was empty - no problem here
19:34 < rxr> 2.6.12 -> 2.6.14-rc4-dist did not help
19:34 < rxr> sepp: gcc-4.0.x ?
19:34 < sepp> yes
19:34 < rxr> uhm
19:35 < sepp> 1gb ram 1gb swap
19:35 < rxr> Mem: 515664 Swap: 265032
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19:35 < sepp> lastest greatest trunk
19:35 < rxr> I could try on the rs6k - that has 768 MB RAM or so ...
19:35 < rxr> though it is dog slow and the 370Mhz CPU might need over a week to reach that point ...
19:36 < rxr> I'll try to narrow this issue down
19:36 < rxr> neither should the kernel stall in such a way by a single user process nor should gcc consume so much memory ..
19:36 < rxr> I think I submit a preprocessed file with flags to the bugzilla ..
19:36 < rxr> 8151 root 25 0 56560 49m 5872 R 97.7 19.9 0:29.56 cc1plus
19:36 < rxr> ^- c++ files from kdelibs on a 270Mhz box ...
19:37 < rxr> 0:53.10 cc1plus
19:37 < rxr> 1:04.89 cc1plus
19:37 < rxr> if we want to contineu supporting SPARC we should get a faster box ... ,-)
19:37 < rxr> ah - finished ,-)
19:37 < rxr> over one minute per file ...
19:38 < rxr> or we should get cross build everything going
19:38 < rxr> hey - or improve the distcc support so I can migrate all boxes c and c++ compiler invocation to faster boxes ,-)
19:40 < rxr> sepp: thanks for packaging package/x11/torsmo - wanted to inject it todays as well when I noticed it is already there ,-)
19:41 < sepp> :D
19:41 < sepp> i saw it on some screenshots and found it nice
19:42 < misl> rxr: I sometimes get offered second hand sparcs. I will drop you a note next time one comes by.
19:43 < rxr> misl: there is one at ebay I might bid for
19:43 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5820749248&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
19:44 < rxr> though I wonder if I rather should get an alpha and continue building sparc slowly but steady and rather get alpha binaries out of t2
19:44 < rxr> though alpha is a bit dead
19:45 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5819636932&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
19:45 < misl> click
19:46 < misl> both look nice
19:47 < rxr> or whether I should focus more in mainstream - where we are likely ot gain more people easier ,-)
19:47 < rxr> 7:54.95 cc1plus
19:48 < rxr> ok - I close top now - this is too disappointing to watch
19:48 < rxr> with some luck kdelibs for sparcv9b will be finsiehd tomorrow morning ,-)
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19:51 < rxr> 11:45.97 cc1plus
19:51 < rxr> ouhm
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20:31 < sparc-kly> hi all
20:36 < CIA-15> aldas * r12770 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools-backends/gnome-system-tools-backends.desc: * updated gnome-system-tools-backends (1.2.0 -> 1.4.0)
20:59 < rxr> Baldzius, the master of updates
20:59 < Baldzius> thanks :)
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21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: can you comment on rc / init with arguments?
21:09 * rxr dinner
21:09 < rxr> cu
21:31 < CIA-15> aldas * r12771 /trunk/package/base/hal/hal.desc: * updated hal (0.5.2 -> 0.5.4)
21:32 < CIA-15> aldas * r12772 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager.desc: * updated gnome-volume-manager (1.5.2 -> 1.5.3)
21:33 < sepp> Baldzius: esdl compiled with the updated erlang?
21:35 < CIA-15> aldas * r12773 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/hal50.patch:
21:35 < CIA-15> * removed hal50.patch from gnome-volume-manager, i think we
21:35 < CIA-15> don't need it , pls fix me
21:36 < Baldzius> sepp: iirc
21:36 < Baldzius> i'll test
21:36 < sepp> thanks :)
21:37 < Baldzius> sepp: yes , compiles fine
21:37 < Baldzius> tried 2x
21:37 < sepp> :)
21:39 < Baldzius> now i remembed, i compiled esdl before commiting erlang :)
21:39 < Baldzius> wings3d also :)
21:40 < sepp> the old (stable) wings did not work with new erlang?
21:41 < Baldzius> compiles new and old
21:41 < Baldzius> both
21:41 < sepp> ok
21:41 < Baldzius> but i updated first and when you said it's unstable i tried downgrade locally
21:42 < Baldzius> their stable is quite out-dated
21:42 < sepp> last time i tried unstable it was a mess :(
21:44 < Baldzius> and versioning hm i would never guess that it's unstable
21:45 < sepp> hehe
21:45 < sepp> mc
21:45 < sepp> lol
21:45 < CIA-15> sebastian * r12774 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/glibc.patch: * patched erlang for new glibc
21:47 < Baldzius> i can't update to new glibc with Emerge
21:47 < Baldzius> never had this problem before
21:47 < sepp> which problem?
21:48 < Baldzius> compile
21:48 < Baldzius> glibc
21:48 < sepp> glibc is blacklisted
21:48 < Baldzius> me whitelisted :)
21:49 < Baldzius> i tried it once, everything was fine
21:49 < Baldzius> now it fails
21:49 < Baldzius> with new glibc ofcourse
21:50 < Baldzius> said it to rxr but he didn't respond
21:50 < sepp> what fails?
21:50 < Baldzius> it's not so important i can live as it is
21:50 < Baldzius> hm can't say now, i can start compile
21:51 < Baldzius> it will take some time
22:11 < Baldzius> sepp: error is quite big
22:11 < Baldzius> t/t2/trunk/src.glibc.default.20051021.223450.4106.localhost/glibc-20050919/objdir/malloc/memusage.os
22:11 < Baldzius> memusage.c:73: error: syntax error before 'calls'
22:12 < Baldzius> min 200 lines :)
22:13 < rxr> what optimization do you build for ?
22:14 < Baldzius> generic
22:16 < rxr> like i385 ?
22:16 < rxr> i386 ...
22:16 < rxr> you need at least 486 for NPTL / TLS in glibc
22:16 < rxr> when you scroll around in your error you will see some #error arch not supported bla blubs atomic instruction a-like
22:21 < Baldzius> recompiling, hope it won't crash my system :)
22:23 < rxr> do you built directly into your running system?
22:23 < Baldzius> yes
22:23 < rxr> that will not work for the case injectingt a NPTL glibc into your linuxthreads system ...
22:24 < rxr> don't do that ,-)
22:24 < Baldzius> ok :)
22:24 < rxr> Build-Target a whole NPTL system and try chroot()ing or booting that,-)
22:24 < rxr> n8 all ,-)
22:24 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr
22:26 < sepp> good night rxr
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23:29 < sepp> good night *
23:29 < Baldzius> gn8 sepp
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