--- Log opened Fri Oct 28 00:00:29 2005 00:05 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 00:12 < valentin> mnemoc: the patch applies in vanilla source and in src.$failedbuild but is rejected in build-target :( 00:14 < valentin> what patch command is used there ? 00:18 < valentin> i try xtrace 00:21 < valentin> ah i found the reason 00:22 < valentin> # sed s/4830/4827/g package/base/uclibc/patches/gcc-830-gcc-bug-num-22167.patch 00:22 < valentin> previous one worked only because of assuming -R 00:26 < valentin> hm now i c - one code line realy changed in 4.0.2 00:26 < valentin> i wonder if i should apply that patch 00:27 < valentin> i think i disable it first 00:27 < valentin> maybe that one line change is an alternate fix for that bug 00:30 -!- karasz is now known as karasz[Away] 00:32 < valentin> we will see... 00:38 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/pingus.gif 00:42 < owl> evil 00:43 < valentin> yes 00:44 < owl> :) 00:44 < owl> but now: gn8 00:44 < valentin> sleep well owl 00:44 < owl> thx. you too. bye 00:52 < mnemoc> valentin: 00:52 < mnemoc> valentin: trial and error ;) 00:53 < valentin> trial and error what ? the patch ? 00:53 < valentin> yes, i try :) 00:53 < mnemoc> what about just removing it? 00:54 < mnemoc> brb 00:54 < valentin> mnemoc: i disabled it here on my machine 00:54 < valentin> if it does not break thinks, i'll commit it 01:09 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has joined #t2 01:09 < Postal> hey guys 01:09 < Postal> what is the sed utility used for? 01:10 < valentin> hi Postal 01:10 < valentin> sed is stream edit 01:11 < valentin> it can be used for transforming text files and text streams 01:11 < valentin> i.e. matching and replacing things 01:11 < Postal> ok cool 01:11 < Postal> and gawk 01:11 < Postal> see im writing a guide to build linux from within OS X 01:11 < valentin> basicaly same purpose, but a bit more of a programming language than sed 01:12 < Postal> and you guys where the only developers I actually know so.. 01:12 < Postal> i thought you could answer the what is this utility question 01:12 < Postal> when is the 2.1.0 release due? 01:13 < valentin> ouhm ... yesterday iirc 01:13 < valentin> ask mnemoc 01:13 < Postal> ive been watching on the site and I did not see the release announcment 01:13 < valentin> me neither, but mnemoc tagged it 01:13 < Postal> would you guys be wanting a G4 live CD? 01:13 < Postal> i only saw a G# 01:13 < Postal> G3* 01:14 < valentin> why not ? 01:14 < Postal> why not as in yes 01:14 < valentin> but i do not think the current live target works for ppc yet 01:14 < Postal> lol 01:14 < Postal> really, even though rxr does so much work on ppc? 01:14 < Postal> ie on his mac 01:15 < valentin> you could try to build it and see how far you come. the boot concept is a bit different for example 01:15 < Postal> yeah, im big into the LFS right now.. its a great way to learn about linux 01:15 < valentin> and once you learned you are invited to use that knowledge inside t2 01:16 < Postal> I will, t2 is my favorite of the "pre packaged" linux distros 01:16 < valentin> :) 01:16 < valentin> i have to take a nap now, cu later 01:16 < Postal> ok will you be back later 01:17 < Postal> mnemoc, you around? 01:17 < valentin> i will be back when my little daughter wakes me up 01:18 < Postal> lol ok 01:18 < valentin> anyone here knows how to get full kernel makefile commandlines instead of 'CC' stuff ? 01:18 < Postal> see you then i should be on until 12:30 EST 01:18 < Postal> errm no lol 01:18 < Postal> :-0 01:19 < valentin> if someone knows, please drop me a line. 01:19 < valentin> gn8 01:19 < Postal> any one else around? rxr? 01:26 < mnemoc> re 01:27 < mnemoc> valentin: release of 2.1.0 is scheduled for sunday 01:28 < mnemoc> valentin: tag is done to start building the ISOs :) 01:36 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly 01:39 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:40 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:41 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has joined #t2 01:53 < Postal> Hey all 01:55 < mnemoc> :) 01:59 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:02 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:04 -!- Netsplit adams.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Baldzius 02:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Baldzius 02:20 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.98.14] has quit [Client Quit] 03:10 -!- kleper [n=kleper@200.30.69.177] has joined #t2 03:17 < kleper> hi 03:29 -!- kleper [n=kleper@200.30.69.177] has quit ["bye"] 04:18 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has joined #t2 04:18 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:20 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has joined #t2 04:20 < Postal> mnemoc you around? 04:21 < Postal> I heard that you have tagged the 2.1.0 release? 04:32 < mnemoc> Postal: read the topic ;) 04:32 < mnemoc> bbl 04:33 < Postal> lol 04:35 < Postal> i fly home tomorrow see you all then 04:35 -!- Postal [n=Postal@h121.69.96.216.ip.alltel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:45 -!- sparc-kly [n=Mubex@64.237.249.238] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:02 -!- sparc-kly [n=Mubex@64.237.253.126] has joined #t2 08:26 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8F33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 08:42 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF9B52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:22 < mtr> moin 10:09 < rxr> re 10:16 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178142229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:16 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 TAGGED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 10:16 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Oct 26 05:11:03 2005] 10:16 [Users #t2] 10:16 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 10:16 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ karasz[Away]] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly] 10:16 [ CIA-15 ] [ lewellyn ] [ owl ] [ sepp_] [ valentin ] 10:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 10:16 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 10:16 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 10:17 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 10:28 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178163078.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:41 < mtr> 1-glibc.err: csu/crti.S:15: Error: junk `.get_pc_thunk.bx' after expression 10:41 < mtr> crti.S:15: call __i686.get_pc_thunk.bx 10:42 < mtr> ??? 10:57 < rxr_> mtr: ouhm 10:57 < rxr_> that is yet another erorr I did not get so far ... 10:57 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:07 < CIA-15> rene * r12936 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/lib64.patch: * fixed mesa for lib64 architectures 11:07 < CIA-15> rene * r12937 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (X11R7.patch mesa.conf mesa.desc): * copyright update for mesa/* 11:07 < mtr> rxr: any idea where to start with 1-glibc.err, where to look into? ARCH='x86', X86_OPT='via-c3-2' 11:09 < rxr> most probably optimization - could you try i586 or so ? 11:10 < mtr> i'll try pentium 11:14 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 11:17 < valentin> rxr: i want to disable a patch from ulibc for gcc 11:18 < valentin> it is a patch for a gcc bug 11:18 < valentin> it contains a one-line change: 11:19 < valentin> - if (TEST_BIT (hoist_vbeout[bb->index], i)) 11:19 < valentin> + if (TEST_BIT (hoist_exprs[bb->index], i)) 11:19 < valentin> in gcc 4.0.2 they changed exactly this line, too. but now it contains 11:20 < valentin> if (TEST_BIT (hoist_vbeout[bb->index], i)&& TEST_BIT (transpout[bb->index], i)) 11:20 < valentin> everything else in this function is the same as in minor versions 11:20 < valentin> so i consider that is an alternate fix for the same problem 11:20 < valentin> though bugzilla is silent about that fix 11:21 < valentin> i disable the patch and take a look if the system is build, ok ? 11:22 < valentin> rxr: how do i disable silent make in kernel ? eval $MAKE Q="" $makeopt in debug shell ? 11:23 < valentin> no 11:23 < rxr> there was some VERBOSE or so 11:23 < valentin> yes 11:24 < valentin> V="1" works 11:24 < rxr> V=1 11:24 < valentin> i think V=blabla works, too 11:24 < rxr> re 11:24 < rxr> yes 11:24 < rxr> regarding dietlibc just try it ... 11:24 < rxr> uclibc even 11:25 < rxr> I have not used uclibc excessively I do nothing about that patch 11:25 < valentin> hm the new gcc does not know -m4-nofpu, it results in cc1: error: invalid option '4-nofpu' 11:26 < valentin> rxr: as far as i understood that bugzilla entry that patch is a fix for a compile time internal error, so i will notice 11:26 < rxr> m4a-nofpu 11:27 < valentin> cc1: error: invalid option `4a-nofpu' 11:27 < rxr> hm 11:28 < valentin> the info page lists that option 11:28 < valentin> but that is the 3.4.3 info 11:29 < valentin> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/crossgcc/2005-10/msg00035.html 11:29 < rxr> my 4.0 man only lists what I posted 11:30 < rxr> m4a-nofpu 11:30 < valentin> gcc4 needs --with-multilib-list=m4,m4-nofpu otherwise a linux 11:30 < valentin> kernel won't build as it uses the -m4-nofpu option. 11:30 < valentin> from the mail i posted above 11:31 < rxr> have fun adding it ,-) 11:32 < rxr> you could test ig just adding --enable-multilib is enough 11:32 < rxr> try: 11:33 < rxr> sh/config.in:SDECFGSET_MULTILIB=1 11:33 < rxr> that will most probably enable a default multilib list in gcc ... 11:34 < rxr> if that is not enough go to base/gcc/gcc.conf and add a conditional injection of your list for the enable mutlibcase no sh ... 11:34 < rxr> on 11:34 < valentin> ok 11:35 -!- karasz[Away] [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:36 < CIA-15> valentin * r12938 /trunk/architecture/sh/config.in: * enable multilib support in gcc for sh architectures 11:39 < CIA-15> rene * r12939 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/lib64.patch: * fixed mplayer for lib64 11:42 < rxr> when do we double rock revision count ? 11:42 < valentin> as i said yesterday, together with mnemosyne we have doubled already 11:43 < valentin> otherwise r13036 atm 11:43 < rxr> ok - so tomorrow 11:44 < valentin> if you get 100 revisions in 24h ... that is not impossibe :) 11:50 < rxr> valentin: do you have time for a fun fix? 11:50 < valentin> fun fix ? 11:50 < rxr> yeah 11:50 < rxr> pdftk - java code ,-) 11:51 < valentin> fun ????? 11:51 < rxr> waiting on haudraufinix I think ,-) 11:51 < rxr> according to our java gurus here java is sooooooo great ... 11:51 < valentin> let them fix it *G* 11:51 < valentin> i take a short look 11:52 < rxr> ok - I started the build to get a src.* debug dir 11:53 < valentin> it isn't there yet ? 11:54 < rxr> reerence had so many errors I did a Cleanup already a few times 11:54 < rxr> reference even 11:57 < rxr> building on haudraufinix in /mnt/space/src/t2-trunk 11:59 < rxr> failed 11:59 < rxr> src.pdftk.reference.20051028.115204.14996.localhost 12:05 < jsaw> re 12:05 < jsaw> hi all 12:06 < CIA-15> rene * r12940 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/gcc-4.0-64.patch: * fixed rezound for gcc-4.0 on 64bit architectures 12:06 < rxr> hi jsaw 12:06 < jsaw> hi rxr 12:11 < rxr> hahahahahahaha hahaha ... 12:11 < rxr> http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-text;name=pdftk 12:11 < rxr> ^- look at that mask not too many architectures actually work I would say ... 12:12 < jsaw> http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?man-pages-2.11 12:12 < jsaw> that's even better 12:12 < valentin> still !> cc1: error: invalid option '4-nofpu' 12:12 < jsaw> man-pages, a lot of work to test... 12:13 < valentin> i'll try --with-multilib-list=m4,m4-nofpu 12:13 < rxr> ok 12:13 < rxr> I take a look into pdftk 12:15 < rxr> valentin: fixed 12:19 < CIA-15> rene * r12941 /trunk/package/graphic/pdftk/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed pdftk for gcc-4.0 12:19 < jsaw> kernel 2.6.14, ipw2[12]00 and hostap included ? 12:20 < rxr> in the case of ipw... not the latest driver 12:20 < rxr> but yes, included 12:20 < rxr> hostap I have not checked but read the heise / golem new 12:20 < rxr> s 12:25 < rxr> 2086 builds total, 1923 completed fine, 163 with errors. 12:26 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ 12:26 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-errs/ 12:26 < rxr> even 12:26 < rxr> in the case anyone wants to fix a bit .-) 12:32 < rxr> jsaw: how are you? 12:42 < valentin> re 12:42 < valentin> rxr: i created SDECFG_MULTILIBLIST 12:42 < valentin> can i just set this var in sh/config.in ? 12:44 < rxr> sure 12:49 < valentin> using sdecfgset ? 12:52 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2_SDE 12:52 < rxr> valentin: yes 12:53 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2 12:53 < rxr> ^- updated as well 12:54 < rxr> when I get xkb and thus a german layout working with my modular X system I add minimal content to the german wikipedia 12:56 < valentin> ./scripts/Config is slow like hell 12:56 < rxr> valentin: ack 12:56 < rxr> that is why I mention to rewrite everytime I refer to it ... 13:01 < valentin> does not work :( 13:03 < valentin> shopping, bbl 13:03 < valentin> do i need to enable something for each SDECFGSET thing ? 13:07 -!- karasz[Away] [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 13:08 < rxr> valentin: no 13:09 < valentin> hm 13:09 < valentin> i inserted 13:10 < valentin> SDECFGSET_MULTILIBLIST="m4,m4-nofpu" 13:10 < valentin> and reran Configure 13:10 < valentin> but it is not in config/... 13:10 < valentin> cu later 13:13 < karasz[Away]> moin all 13:17 < rxr> moin karasz[Away] 13:19 < jsaw> rxr: more or less fine... (last week flu, this week stomach flu...) 13:21 < rxr> jsaw: :-( 13:22 < jsaw> but now I'm recovering 13:30 < rxr> re 13:30 < rxr> ok - xkb working 13:30 < rxr> only config change - rules are now named xorg not xfree86 ... 14:01 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 14:01 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:22 < valentin> re 14:23 < jsaw> == 10/28/05 13:34:30 =[0]=> Aborted building package glibc. 14:23 < jsaw> ??? 14:23 < jsaw> any-cc-ok.patch.cross fails to apply 14:26 < rxr> oops+ 14:26 < rxr> wrong patch level_ 14:26 < rxr> ? even 14:26 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.208.191.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:36 < valentin> damn stuff... 14:38 < valentin> still no idea why that does not work, whereas the other SDECFGSET_ stuff works 14:39 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:39 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.220.53.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:40 < valentin> maybe i need to declare the default value somewhere ? 14:40 < valentin> # Usage: set_data NAME DEFAULT 14:43 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 14:44 < geekitus> in what package is ifup ? 14:44 < valentin> geekitus: rocknet stuff, that is sysfiles ? 14:44 < valentin> /var/adm/flists/sysfiles:sysfiles: sbin/ifup 14:45 < geekitus> ok, thanks :) ! 14:49 < valentin> cu later 14:58 < jsaw> cu later 14:59 < SerWou> good afternoon 15:04 -!- karasz[Away] is now known as karasz 15:04 < karasz> re moin 15:05 < karasz> sorry i was away a bit 15:07 < karasz> question : does anybody know about some overcommit issues in kernel 2.6.9.5? 15:10 < karasz> some kernel gurus around? 15:11 < rxr> this GEZ spy operation found a 10 year ikd addres wgere we kuft ages ago ... 15:11 < rxr> my oh my - damn GEZ crap 15:24 < karasz> hmmm GEZ crap??? 15:25 < karasz> rxr maybe you wanna try out our way of imposing television fees 15:25 < karasz> right in your electrical bill 15:25 < karasz> no questions asked, no fuss you pay it even if you do not have a tv 15:26 < rxr> oh mz god 15:27 < karasz> it is very cool if you are a company, especialy. 15:27 < karasz> companies do not have TV's but they pay even higher tv fees :) 15:28 < karasz> you don't pay they cut your electricity which is not cool 15:29 < karasz> by the way, i forgot there is a radio tax also, which you have to pay...:) 15:38 < karasz> rxr will you have time today? 15:39 < karasz> i mean it is possible form me to have in this weekend a workin' T2 on that machine? 15:57 < mnemoc> moin 16:45 < karasz> moin mnemoc 16:54 < mnemoc> moin karasz 16:55 < mnemoc> valentin: config file isn't a dump of SDECFG_ vars, it's created using echo "..." >> config on a few helpers 17:11 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:20 < CIA-15> amery * r12942 /tags/2.1.0/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.cache: * tweaked gnome-panel.cache to not show dependendcy on evolution-data-server, because 'desktop' target blindly add all dependencies. 17:27 -!- Postal [n=Postal@69-214-171-65.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #t2 17:27 < Postal> hey all 17:28 < Postal> anyone around? 17:29 < mnemoc> hi Postal 17:29 < rxr> hi Postal 17:29 < mnemoc> hi rxr 17:29 < Postal> hi rxr 17:29 < Postal> hey rxr does the 2.1.0 do a live build on ppc? 17:30 < mnemoc> 2.1.0 doesn't have livecd 17:30 < rxr> 2.1 has no live cd 17:30 < Postal> why? what happened to the live cd? 17:30 < rxr> there will soon be a new livecd from 2.2 aka trunk for x86, x86-64 and powerpc 17:30 < mnemoc> depends on features which belong to 2.2 17:31 < mnemoc> a 2.1-style livecd may get into 2.1.x (with x>1) if someone develop such target 17:32 < mnemoc> 2.1-style = monolitic kernel, devfs, rockplug in this case 17:37 < CIA-15> amery * r12943 /trunk/package/network/xmule/xmule.desc: * updated xmule (1.10.1 -> 1.12.0) 17:37 < rxr> I hope noone does that ... 17:37 < rxr> The Gimp 2.2.9 17:37 < mnemoc> i wont 17:38 * rxr now rsynced my latest x86-64 testbuild with X11R7 into my turion szstem ... 17:38 < rxr> system ... 17:39 < rxr> grummel - needs to get used to the german mapping again, after 2 days with xkb and thus US mapping due X11R7 on my athlon ... 17:39 < mnemoc> there is any reason to put the 'z' there? 17:43 < valentin> short re 17:44 < valentin> rxr: where do we meet ? 17:54 < valentin> cu later 17:54 < rxr> _ 17:54 < rxr> ah 17:54 < rxr> I call zou 17:55 -!- Postal [n=Postal@69-214-171-65.ded.ameritech.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:57 < mnemoc> anyone knows a good screen tutorial? i want to add windows executing stuff from outside procedurally 18:01 < CIA-15> rene * r12944 /trunk/target/archivista/ (download.txt pkg_sane-backends.conf): * updated archivista to inject my latest SANE/Avision code 18:03 < mnemoc> oh, china accepted the text for the free trade agreement between thay and chile :D 18:05 < CIA-15> amery * r12945 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.2.8 -> 2.2.9) 18:19 < rxr> thanks 18:19 < rxr> wow - EXA is indeed fast 18:20 < rxr> I now enabled just for testing EXA isntead of XAA on the radeon based workstation I use for reference builds 18:20 < rxr> transparent windows flying by ... 18:20 < mnemoc> EXA? 18:20 < rxr> a new X.org internal ... 18:21 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 18:23 < rxr> .oO(a fully transparent konqueror is scrolling smoother than safari without transparency on OS X) 18:23 < rxr> and that on a slower Radeon chip in my athlon 18:24 < rxr> 7500 here where it is a 9200 in the Apple hardware 18:26 < rxr> guess the next live cd will enable EXA AccelMethod for the next live CD due beginning of next week 18:27 < rxr> guess I can now leave the transparent chat term open over kmail and do not need to switch the desktop anymore to look for mail ... 18:28 < rxr> though the "you got mail" voice synth for kmail would help as well ,-) 18:28 < mnemoc> rxr: 2.1.0 ppc build started? 18:28 < rxr> yep kind of 18:29 < mnemoc> ? 18:30 < rxr> started OS suX in the meantime again 18:30 < rxr> I boot it again and continue ... 18:32 < rxr> btw. tag or branch? 18:32 < rxr> what do you want ? 18:32 < rxr> oh - and what should I do with the kaffee hangs on PPC 18:32 < rxr> remove kaffee from desktop ? 18:34 < mnemoc> tag of course 18:35 < mnemoc> what 'kind' of hang? 18:35 < mnemoc> do minimal and bootdisk first ;) 18:36 < mnemoc> kaffe suppose to support ppc 18:44 < mnemoc> nice, i'm triggering a Build-Target on screen via ssh to noisy by cron on my side :p 18:45 < rxr> hehehe 18:45 < rxr> kaffe-bin or so hangs on PPC on many packages 18:45 < rxr> see our trac - I opened issues 18:49 < mnemoc> uhm 18:55 < rxr> I disable for desktop 18:55 < rxr> so - cu - we off to meat kerstin and valentin for lunch 18:55 < rxr> dinner ven 18:55 < rxr> cu then 18:56 < mnemoc> cu rxr 18:56 < _Ragnar_> moin 18:57 < mnemoc> moin _Ragnar_ 18:57 < _Ragnar_> hi mnemoc 19:03 < mnemoc> *headache* 19:06 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@d80-170-0-145.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:06 * _Ragnar_ rub mnemocs temples 19:09 * mnemoc looking for a dictionary :\ 19:09 < _Ragnar_> what do you wanna know? 19:11 < mnemoc> i couldn't translate what you said :\ 19:14 < _Ragnar_> oh 19:15 < _Ragnar_> 101454 <@Ragnar> .dict temple 19:15 < _Ragnar_> 101456 <+^Siren^> --- [from wn] --- temple n 1: place of worship consisting of an edifice for the worship of a deity 2: the flat area on either side of the forehead; "the veins in his temple throbbed" 3: an edifice devoted to special or exalted purposes 4: (Judaism) the place of worship for a Jewish congregation [syn: {synagogue}, {tabernacle}] 19:16 < mnemoc> which acception? 19:16 < mnemoc> and 'rub'? 19:16 < _Ragnar_> massage gently 19:17 < mnemoc> :D 19:17 < mnemoc> thanks 19:17 < _Ragnar_> :) yw 19:51 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:58 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:58 < misl> hi folks :) 19:59 < mnemoc> hi noisy-murderer 20:01 < misl> uhh? 20:01 < misl> I wasn't even in da house 20:01 < misl> :) 20:02 < misl> What were you running? 20:02 < mnemoc> 2.1.0 build 20:03 < misl> have to read a story to Merlyn. bbl 20:03 < mnemoc> :) 20:08 < owl> moin 20:08 < mnemoc> moin owlinette 20:08 < owl> hi mnemoc 20:15 * misl is back 20:15 < misl> mnemoc: how was your 2.1 build doing> 20:15 < misl> >=? 20:15 < mnemoc> i boot and minimal good 20:15 < mnemoc> desktop, yuck yuck 20:16 < mnemoc> s/^i // 20:16 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 20:16 < misl> hmm, in nearly 1,5 weeks noisy can be left running continuously in midweeks :) 20:17 < misl> then I will be staying at my new summerhouse :) 20:17 < mnemoc> :D 20:17 < mnemoc> pictures? 20:17 < owl> wb misl 20:17 < misl> hi owl 20:18 < misl> lets see if I can dig up some pictures 20:19 < misl> http://www.funda.nl/recreatie/detail_overzicht.asp?obj_GUID={2093FF44-9F06-4CED-A796-902B2EBDC8B3}&sfPrijsMin=0&sfPrijsMax=1000000000&sfProvincie=OV&crrentChoices=&crrentTotal=20&paginaVolgNummer=1&objectVolgNummer=7&zid=328118&sfPlaatsID=7203&searchmode=normaal 20:20 < misl> it is not the same one but mine looks very similar. 20:21 < mnemoc> does yours also have the forest around? 20:22 < misl> yepp :) 20:22 < mnemoc> very nice house 20:22 < misl> :D 20:23 < misl> morfoh wants to throw somekind of T2 party there. 20:24 < mnemoc> beware, i would kill for a house like that 20:24 < misl> Am I lucky that you are on the other side of the globe :) 20:24 < mnemoc> yep :) 20:26 < misl> It is not as big as it looks like. But there is room enought for the three of us (Merlyn, Pauline and me). 20:29 < mnemoc> 85/532 mē is quite good 20:29 < mnemoc> i rent a 38/50 house 20:30 < misl> for the 4 of you? 20:30 < mnemoc> yep 20:30 < mnemoc> and without the forest ;) 20:31 < misl> The forest is what made us actually do it. 20:32 < misl> then there is plenty of space for Merlyn to create havoc :) 20:32 < mnemoc> :D 20:34 < misl> mnemoc: Do you have any experience with xen? 20:35 < mnemoc> just netless qemu 20:36 < misl> I was wondering if xen was a good choice to make better use of noisy 20:36 < mnemoc> why? 20:36 < mnemoc> what do you want to do? 20:37 < misl> Just divide the capacity over various virtual hosts. 20:37 < mnemoc> do you need difefrent kernels running? 20:37 < misl> and being able to create a t2 distro that is capable of doing that out of the box. 20:38 < misl> not necessarily 20:38 < mnemoc> use vserver then 20:38 < misl> but like this clusters could be tested as well. 20:38 < mnemoc> sheba target (mnemosyne based) wants to become a lightweight vserver host 20:39 < mnemoc> but i need to complete dietlibc support 20:40 < misl> for what purpose are you targeting? 20:42 < mnemoc> a low footprint t2 based distribution to host and manage multiple virtual hosts using vserver :) 20:42 < mnemoc> i have one glibc/sheba serving 20:43 < mnemoc> but i want dietlibc and rsbac on the 'final product' 20:45 < misl> So still some work ahead 20:47 < misl> does you build automatically start again tomorrow? 20:47 < mnemoc> it suppose to 20:47 < mnemoc> 8:15 20:48 < misl> okay, good to know 20:48 < mnemoc> will you reinstall noisy with a natively built OS? 20:49 < misl> If I wanne be sure it still works afterwards I'd better leave to rxr or maybe you. 20:49 < misl> :) 20:50 < misl> I will be switching to potato mode now. (couch potato) 20:50 < misl> I think I deserve that after a week of hard working. 20:50 < misl> :) 20:50 < misl> I might be back later. cu 20:51 < mnemoc> gn8 potato ;) 21:08 < CIA-15> ragnar * r12946 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.conf: * vserver: fixed small typo in conf 21:18 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.57] has joined #t2 21:18 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.42] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:19 < menomc> yuck yuck 21:19 < rxr> re 21:20 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 21:22 < _Ragnar_> ./common/lpq.c:452: warning: not enough variable arguments to fit a sentinel <-- what does that mean? 21:23 < rxr> oehm 21:24 < rxr> I think this will we some fuction with varags foo (x, ...) that is misused 21:25 < rxr> this EXA graphics are just impressive ... 21:25 < rxr> Q: Why do you use Linux? A: It is the OS with the most eye candy ,-) 21:29 < rxr> n8 all 21:29 < owl> gn8 rxr 21:30 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 21:30 < _Ragnar_> gn8 21:30 < _Ragnar_> EXA? 21:30 < mnemoc> [13:20:59] EXA? 21:30 < mnemoc> [13:21:11] a new X.org internal ... 21:31 < _Ragnar_> thx :) 21:33 < mnemoc> :) 21:36 < rxr> ok - we filled with wild pig and starting to crawl into bed ... 21:38 * _Ragnar_ renames rxr to obelix (and hides from the lawyers) 21:39 < mnemoc> :D 21:55 < rxr> sepp: in contrast to the former monolythic X, which miscompiled the radeon driver on x86-64 and gcc-4.0, the modualr X stuff does work out of the box on x86-64/radeon 21:55 < rxr> includign exa 21:56 < rxr> finally, n8 have fun hacking 21:58 < _Ragnar_> gn8=) 22:01 < CIA-15> ragnar * r12947 /trunk/package/printing/lprng/lprng.conf: * remove -Werror from lprng gcc calls, fancy new gcc4 warnings break it :) 22:09 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.141.205] has joined #t2 22:09 < Baldzius> hello 22:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: what was the typo on 12946? i can't see it in diff :\ 22:18 < _Ragnar_> confidr->confdir 22:19 < mnemoc> oh 22:20 < mnemoc> any why the regex? makeopt is cleaned on top 22:20 < mnemoc> and* 22:20 < _Ragnar_> huh? 22:22 < _Ragnar_> oh dunno O-o 22:23 < valentin> re 22:28 < mnemoc> wb valentin 22:29 < karasz> re moin all 22:36 < mnemoc> moin karasz 22:41 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:18 < karasz> sorry i was on the other desktop (hi, hi KVM switch) moin mnemoc 23:29 < valentin> gn8 23:34 < karasz> gn* valentin 23:37 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:37 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:38 -!- SerWou [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Sat Oct 29 00:00:30 2005