--- Log opened Wed Nov 09 00:00:53 2005 00:01 < mnemoc> re 00:02 < mnemoc> rxr: he just phone me o.o 00:03 < mnemoc> karasz: postgres on 2.1 will be 8.0.x for ever, trunk can go to 8.1 00:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: just a few... i.e. bad. 00:03 < morfoh> hi mnemoc ! 00:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: :/ 00:33 < karasz> hi mnemoc 00:33 < karasz> that it IS what i sugested 00:33 < karasz> released == frozen 00:33 < karasz> trunk == ever changing 00:35 < mnemoc> :) 00:35 < mnemoc> not version frozen, but API/ABI/prefix/config frozen 00:36 < mnemoc> probably 8.0.x -> 8.1 has ABI changes 00:36 < karasz> nope 00:36 < karasz> at least not that i am aware of 00:36 < karasz> but will build and share the findings... 00:36 < mnemoc> :) 00:37 < karasz> but i can not just now since i have no computer :'( 00:37 < mnemoc> are you here by telepaty? 00:41 < madtux> mnemoc, stop playing smart ass and just take care of the update 00:41 * madtux runs 00:42 < karasz> madtux, madtux .... 00:42 < mnemoc> :) 00:42 < karasz> naughty naughty 00:42 < madtux> hahaha 00:42 < madtux> karasz, i could not resist it 00:42 < morfoh> madtux said just the truth :) 00:42 * morfoh runs too 00:43 < madtux> hahaha 00:43 < madtux> see how cruel mnemoc is... he simple ignore us. 00:43 < madtux> not nice mnemoc 00:45 < morfoh> madtux: but anyway .. we like him like he is 00:45 < morfoh> at least me is running into bed now ... good night folks 00:45 < madtux> well if we change our minds there is enought meat to feed the rat for a while 00:46 < madtux> ok... sleep well morfoh 00:46 < morfoh> madtux: yep 00:46 < morfoh> cu 00:46 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF712.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 00:49 < karasz> cu 00:49 < karasz> i hav to go now 00:49 < karasz> bye all 00:58 < mnemoc> bye karasz 01:34 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.5] has joined #t2 01:34 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.63] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:36 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 01:47 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:56 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-34-234-177.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:14 -!- madtux [i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:25 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-34-234-177.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 02:32 -!- axion [n=root@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 02:33 < axion> hi, on boot i get: RTNETLINK: file exists when starting the network script. The network goes up but it errors...why? 02:34 -!- axion [n=root@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:34 < mnemoc> err 02:34 < mnemoc> i was writting the answer!! 02:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: are you awake? 02:45 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 03:18 < _Ragnar_> re 03:20 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_ 03:20 < _Ragnar_> thanks 03:38 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:39 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 04:08 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 04:10 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Client Quit] 05:06 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:09 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 07:33 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFA4E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 07:49 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFC38C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:42 < valentin> moin 08:43 < rxr> moin valentin 08:43 < rxr> mnemoc: mr. archivista phoned you ? 08:53 < valentin> hi rxr 09:10 < rxr> valentin: have you looked at the immense http://www.t2-project.org stats ? 09:16 < karasz> moin 09:16 < CIA-14> rene * r13233 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (205 -> 206) 09:18 < CIA-14> rene * r13234 /trunk/package/security/botan/botan.desc: * updated botan (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9) 09:19 < CIA-14> rene * r13235 /trunk/package/network/openvpn/openvpn.desc: * updated openvpn (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5) 10:17 < rxr> re 10:52 < rxr> X11R7 cirrus driver is defect 10:53 < rxr> the one needed for quemu 10:53 < rxr> what a fun 11:03 < rxr> cool - and fixed 11:29 < rxr> valentin: are you in ah or @home today ? 11:29 < karasz> re moin all 11:34 < CIA-14> rene * r13236 /trunk/package/base/serpnp/ (serpnp.conf serpnp.desc serpnp.init): 11:34 < CIA-14> * updated serpnp (0.0.1 -> 0.0.2), finally fixed the serpnp.init script 11:34 < CIA-14> for m4 postprocessing and install it 11:36 < rxr> moin karasz 11:40 < rxr> mnemoc: Open Patch: 2005110520444731232 [by stf] 11:40 < rxr> 11:40 < rxr> Stefan Fiedler: 11:40 < rxr> mozilla: copy freetype, gcc-4.0, MOZ_PLUGIN_DIR patches from T2 12:18 < jsaw> re 12:18 < rxr> hi jsaw 12:18 < jsaw> hi rxr 12:19 < jsaw> once again 1-linux26 fails... 12:19 < jsaw> xargs <- too many args... 12:19 < jsaw> :( 12:19 < jsaw> does anybody remember what we did the last time? 12:20 < rxr> jsaw: searching wich place this is and change the expression to not be sensitive to arglist ... 12:31 < jsaw> .oO(feared that) 12:33 < rxr> with XTRACE it is easy 12:33 < jsaw> ====[main_lx:1 (last $?=0)> make ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE=i586-t2-linux-gnu- KCC= 12:33 < jsaw> i586-t2-linux-gnu-kcc -j 1 clean 12:33 < jsaw> xargs: environment is too large for exec 12:34 < jsaw> ... easy ? ... 12:34 < rxr> oh 12:34 < rxr> that are the linux Makefiles itself, ... 12:34 < jsaw> yep 12:35 < rxr> have fun then ,-) 12:35 < jsaw> :P 12:44 < karasz> #kanotix 12:45 < karasz> :$ 12:48 < CIA-14> rene * r13237 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 12:48 < CIA-14> * added a (short) README(.html) to the livecd's Desktop and let KDE 12:48 < CIA-14> Autostart Konqueror with it 12:50 < rxr> The new livecd first release candidate will most probably be available this afternoon ... 12:50 < rxr> as you can imagine from the fine tuning commits ,-) 12:52 < CIA-14> rene * r13238 /trunk/target/livecd/pkgsel: 12:52 < CIA-14> * improved livecd/pkgsel: firefox instead of mozilla added wget, curl, 12:52 < CIA-14> netconf and zile 12:53 < CIA-14> rene * r13239 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-cirrus/modular.patch: 12:53 < CIA-14> * fixed xf86-video-cirrus to actually work (split the sub-modules into 12:53 < CIA-14> sub-modules) - works under Qemu and thus allows me testing the livecd 12:55 < CIA-14> rene * r13240 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/bin/ (. startkde): 12:55 < CIA-14> * imported the previous livecd's startkde modification to set the 12:55 < CIA-14> keyboard layout according to the language selected in the wizard 12:55 < CIA-14> rene * r13241 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc: * fixed #! encoding in livecd/.../kdmrc 12:56 < CIA-14> rene * r13242 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/etc/sudoers: 12:56 < CIA-14> * imported livecd/etc/sudoers modification from previous livecd: allow 12:56 < CIA-14> any command 13:06 -!- madtux [n=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 13:06 < madtux> hello. 13:06 < rxr> hi madtux 13:06 < rxr> miguel even ,-) 13:07 < rxr> how are you ? 13:07 < madtux> i am doing great, how about u my friend? 13:07 < madtux> :) 13:08 < rxr> oh - fine as well 13:09 < madtux> glad to hear 13:27 < rxr> ouhm - time to mention that I hate libtool ... 13:59 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178138087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 13:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 4 16:55:33 2005] 13:59 [Users #t2] 13:59 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly] 13:59 [ CIA-14 ] [ madtux] [ owl] [ sepp ] [ valentin ] 13:59 [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ SerWou] 13:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 13:59 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 13:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 14:00 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178143068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 < jsaw> rxr_: I have no idea how to solve the "xargs: environment is too large for exec" 14:04 < jsaw> I had the same error with ooo, there IIRC I removed the "SDECFG_" variables in the .conf 14:32 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:17 < karasz> re moin 15:18 < karasz> rxr are you around? 15:30 < rxr> sort of 15:34 < CIA-14> rene * r13243 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/Autostart/knetconf.desktop: * added knetconf autostart to the livecd target 15:37 < mnemoc> moin! 15:38 < rxr> moin mnemoc 15:38 < CIA-14> rene * r13244 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * moved the livecd Autostart into the correct .kde/ place 15:38 < mnemoc> moin rxr 15:40 < rxr> mnemoc: what did you mean in the night with phoning ? that mr. archivista called you ? 15:40 < mnemoc> yes, to my cell phone 15:40 < mnemoc> when i was with my daughters on the bus :p 15:41 < mnemoc> imagine us trying to talk english with that noise 15:41 < rxr> .o ,-) 15:42 < rxr> and? 15:43 < mnemoc> he gave me a password to a running archiwhateverbox 15:44 < rxr> and ? 15:45 < mnemoc> nothing yet.... he is writting a doc to tell me what he needs 15:47 < rxr> mnemoc: do you think it is worth to optimize livecd rsync invocations with 4-6 lines of hardcoded optimization flist rules or is that too harmfull ? 15:48 < rxr> for my current livcd the 9330 files-exclude 15:49 < rxr> files-exclude has 9330 entries ... - which let's rsync consume a lot of CPU interating over it for each file 15:49 < rxr> though on this Athlon XP 2500+ it is still IO bound 15:49 < rxr> but on slower boxes it will drive rsync to CPU limits ... 15:50 < mnemoc> rxr: $RSYNCHARMFULLOPTS :) 15:50 < rxr> excluding stuff like var/adm/logs and var/adm/olists, ... and filter them out of the exclude list would reduce those by a huge ammount 15:51 < mnemoc> --exclude /var/adm/logs/ ? 15:51 < rxr> 2768 less compares per file ... 15:51 < rxr> in the current livecd case ... 15:52 < rxr> mnemoc: well - grep -v ... in the diff that parses the lists and explicitly echo those once into the exclude file I would ... 15:52 < rxr> well - I think it is worth that hardcoded assumption, ok ? 15:52 < mnemoc> ack 15:52 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I though about your pkgsel stuff - feel free to modify it to what you posted to the list - it is ok for me as well 16:02 < mnemoc> i was also thinking 16:02 < mnemoc> using multiple and patterns per line we could 16:03 < mnemoc> X multimedia/ lib* :-) 16:03 < mnemoc> s/and/AND/ 16:05 < madtux> master mnemoc 16:07 < mnemoc> hi mickey 16:07 < madtux> how are u today my master? 16:12 < mnemoc> living, and you? 16:12 < madtux> i guess living too 16:14 < mnemoc> at least you are better than some weeks ago :) 16:15 < madtux> much better 16:15 < madtux> thanks to good friends like yourself 16:20 < mnemoc> :) 16:21 -!- mipe [n=chatzill@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 16:21 < madtux> hello mipe 16:22 < mipe> hi madtux 16:23 < mnemoc> hi mipe 16:23 < mipe> hi mnemoc 16:27 < mipe> anyone doing or have desktop target build for amd64? 16:28 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:29 < rxr> mipe: on my subnotebook, yes 16:30 < mipe> will you upload it to somewhere for download? 16:31 < rxr> well - trunk has no new instller yet ... 16:33 < mipe> and old one doesnt work? 16:36 < rxr> ic you really want a prebuilt ... 16:36 < rxr> mipe: there is a 2.1 x86-64 ISO IIRC 16:37 < mipe> rxr: i only saw t2-minimal at website, checking again.... 16:38 < mipe> yep,minimal only 16:39 < rxr> ic 16:45 < mipe> but no hurry, i can wait... need to do some thesis work... 16:52 < karasz> anyone knows an online abbreviation generator? 16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13245 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs.desc: * updated libxfce4mcs (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13246 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/libxfce4util.desc: * updated libxfce4util (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3.1) 16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13247 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.desc: * updated libxfcegui4 (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13248 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * updated xfcalendar (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13249 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/xfce4-appfinder.desc: * updated xfce4-appfinder (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13250 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-iconbox/xfce4-iconbox.desc: * updated xfce4-iconbox (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13251 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-icon-theme/xfce4-icon-theme.desc: * updated xfce4-icon-theme (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13252 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/xfce4-mixer.desc: * updated xfce4-mixer (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13253 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel.desc: * updated xfce4-panel (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13254 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.desc: * updated xfce4-session (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13255 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systray/xfce4-systray.desc: * updated xfce4-systray (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13256 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-toys/xfce4-toys.desc: * updated xfce4-toys (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:58 < CIA-14> amery * r13257 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-trigger-launcher/xfce4-trigger-launcher.desc: * updated xfce4-trigger-launcher (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:59 < CIA-14> amery * r13258 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-manager (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 16:59 < CIA-14> amery * r13259 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13260 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-utils/xfce-utils.desc: * updated xfce-utils (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13261 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * updated xfdesktop (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13262 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/xffm.desc: * updated xffm (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13263 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * updated xfprint (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13264 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4.desc: * updated xfwm4 (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3.1) 17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13265 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4-themes/xfwm4-themes.desc: * updated xfwm4-themes (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3) 17:03 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.218.177.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:03 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.213.195.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 17:30 < CIA-14> rene * r13266 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system: * improved livecd system.init to autodetect existing swap space 17:31 < CIA-14> rene * r13267 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/bin/startkde: * fixed malformed livecd startkde overlay patch 17:31 < CIA-14> rene * r13268 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live.perm: 17:31 < CIA-14> * fixed the livecd target to recursively change home/live permissions, 17:31 < CIA-14> now that there are more files in it 17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: do you know a filter (or how to make one) to convert plain-raw-old-dos-text into ps/pdf under certain (small) fontsize? 17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: when dosemu tries to print thinking it has a dot-matrix small-font printer 17:34 < rxr> sell - sed the dos linending to unix and throw it into some asci to ps filter? 17:34 < rxr> asps or enscript? 17:35 < mnemoc> will they honor char 12 for new page? 17:35 < rxr> ? 17:35 < rxr> oeh 17:35 < rxr> no idea - sed if needed ,-)= 17:37 < mnemoc> :) 17:46 < mnemoc> http://www.eprg.org/pdfcorner/text2pdf/text2pdf.c :D 18:16 -!- axionline [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 18:17 < axionline> I'm using 2.1.0 and the network boot script errors with "RTNETLINK answers: file exists", but otherwise works fine 18:18 < rxr> axionline: I guess you added the bug to our issue tracker? 18:18 < rxr> I'll debug this issue soon - though it is just cosmetical 18:19 < axionline> I've had the problem on LFS too...I'm wondering how to fix it myself 18:20 < rxr> axionline: some init script does some network setting twice or one that equals the default in the kernel 18:21 < rxr> axionline: I have not yet taken a look where this is exactly 18:22 < axionline> rxr: ok 18:22 < axionline> I'll add the issue 18:23 < mnemoc> rxr: rockplug's net.plug does ifup when detects the interface on init time 18:24 < mnemoc> i was thinking is adding a if [ -z "$DONTSTARTNETWORK" ]; then in there 18:24 < mnemoc> in* 18:24 < axionline> by the way, excellent work so far. i'll stick around and help as i can 18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: nope this start on plug is evil 18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: it must be removed in the first place 18:25 < mnemoc> what about hotplug net devices? 18:25 < rxr> most probably the reason why I always have 20 ppp0's on my router ... 18:26 < _Ragnar_> huh? 18:26 < rxr> # ps ax | grep pppd | wc -l 18:26 < rxr> 25 18:26 < rxr> time to kill some again ... 18:27 < mnemoc> o.o 18:27 < mnemoc> $ ps aux | grep pppd | wc -l 18:27 < mnemoc> 2 18:27 < _Ragnar_> how about writing and checking lockfiles? 18:28 < _Ragnar_> ps aux | grep pppd | wc -l 1 18:28 < mnemoc> it's not a matter of locks, just to distinguishing between first-scan and others 18:29 < rxr> mnemoc: nope 18:29 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: 1? that means only 'grep' 18:29 < mnemoc> rxr: then? 18:29 < _Ragnar_> indeed :) 18:30 < rxr> if you have virtual interfaces you'll always get a plug signal when you ifup and it is created then 18:30 < rxr> this is evil 18:31 -!- axionline [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 18:31 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 18:31 < mnemoc> wb axion :) 18:32 < axion> thanks :) 18:33 < mnemoc> rxr: plug signal when you ifup? that would mean an inf loop which doesn't exist 18:33 < rxr> nope - it exists then - so only one feedback - not inf. 18:34 < rxr> but one more stalling pppd per ifup ... 18:36 < rxr> mnemoc: does ooo need mozilla or is firefox ok for this NSPR s.th. libs ? 18:36 < mnemoc> how do you think this problem can be solved without loosing auto start on real plugs? 18:36 < mnemoc> rxr: if mozilla is not available ooo build it's own 18:39 < rxr> urghs 18:39 < rxr> mnemoc: needs meditation 18:43 < mnemoc> ooo/mozilla or hotplug/'network start' issue? 18:44 < rxr> urgs to mozilla, meditation for the other 18:47 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.226.143.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:47 < karasz> rxr do you feel like booting around? 18:48 < karasz> and btw did you get your stuff from openpower? 18:56 < rxr> booting around? 18:56 < rxr> well - all reasonable is commited 18:56 < karasz> ok 18:56 < karasz> booting around=fiddling with boot target 18:57 < rxr> well - I fear I'm out of time for that - too much stuff to finish before linux world expo 18:57 < karasz> when is the world expo? 18:57 < rxr> next week 18:57 < karasz> huh 18:57 < karasz> too soon i guess... 18:57 < mnemoc> .oO( why the h* are the days so f* short! )o 18:58 < karasz> :D 18:58 < rxr> mnemoc: ack! 18:58 * rxr away 18:58 < karasz> ok then i will pack the openpower tomorrow 19:07 < _Ragnar_> hmmm SDK for cell out :) 19:08 < karasz> _Ragnar_ really :-| 19:08 < karasz> ? 19:08 < karasz> whou... 19:09 < karasz> CELL arch somenone? :) 19:09 < _Ragnar_> :) 19:09 < karasz> i made up a new word :( 19:09 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.213.195.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:09 < karasz> somenone...:( 19:09 < _Ragnar_> :) 19:10 < karasz> damn thoose typos... 19:10 < karasz> anyway _Ragnar_ what do you think of that? 19:10 < _Ragnar_> I want one :) 19:10 < karasz> a SDK? 19:11 < karasz> or a CELL based computer? 19:11 < _Ragnar_> cell based comp :) 19:11 < karasz> i guess that they are not out yet, or am i mistaken? 19:12 < _Ragnar_> yea 19:12 < mipe> i doubt they are out... ps3 will be the first one i guess 19:12 < karasz> they will wait until PSIII 19:12 < _Ragnar_> ;0 19:12 < karasz> march 2006 19:12 < _Ragnar_> next year 19:12 < karasz> CELL is power based? 19:13 < karasz> hmmm no 19:13 < _Ragnar_> roughly yes 19:13 < karasz> but still there are major diferences 19:13 < karasz> i guess that we can call it a new cpu 19:14 * karasz wonders... 19:14 < _Ragnar_> indeed 19:14 < _Ragnar_> I wonder if the FPUs can be used to speed up compiling 19:54 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live/ 19:57 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:59 < mnemoc> rxr: what about gatling at gsmp? apache autoindex is unreadable 20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: sed filtering piped to text2pdf piped to lpr solved my dosemu printing isse :) 20:02 -!- mipe [n=chatzill@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]"] 20:09 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 20:52 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CC45C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:53 < MisterN> hi 20:58 < mnemoc> hi mr. gentoo 20:59 < MisterN> well switching distros is just sooo annoying :) 20:59 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.217.126.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:00 < mnemoc> :) 21:01 < MisterN> plus i'm waiting for the new livecd 21:10 < mnemoc> [15:54:59] http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live/ <--- i guess rene mentioned it to be tested :) (1h ago) 21:11 < MisterN> yes but i fear that bugs might make me stick to gentoo. and i'm really not happy with its performance (portage + boot) 21:12 < MisterN> whatever i'll waste a cdr and test it on my brother's computer :D 21:12 < MisterN> delta or gamma? 21:14 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.226.143.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:14 < karasz> yes delat or gamma? 21:16 < MisterN> i'll get the newer 21:16 < sepp> look at the timestamp :p 21:17 < sepp> moin all 21:17 < MisterN> sepp: i did. and i just found out that those greek letters might have just alphabet-meaning 21:18 < MisterN> this will take some time ... 22 KB/s 21:35 < rxr> MisterN: you can just wait some more days 21:36 < rxr> the final cd will be more polished and on our usual servers that are way faster ,-) 21:37 < MisterN> yes, i fear i can't wait for 10 hrs 21:38 < MisterN> I'm really curious *G* 21:43 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.28] has joined #t2 21:43 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.5] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:45 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 22:22 < CIA-14> amery * r13269 /trunk/package/develop/alternatives/Makefile.patch: * fixed alternatives to be stage-9 safe (install when it's already installed) 22:36 < CIA-14> amery * r13270 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnocl/rebuild_safe.patch: * fixed gnocl to build fine on stage-9 22:36 < mnemoc> bbl 22:43 -!- madtux [n=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:36 < karasz> re moin --- Log closed Thu Nov 10 00:00:54 2005