--- Log opened Mon Dec 12 00:00:10 2005 00:08 * VX is away: dropped to bed.. 00:41 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178170248.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 00:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 00:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 00:41 [Users #t2] 00:41 [@ChanServ ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ ] [ nzg] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 00:41 [ _Ragnar__] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ ojh] [ sparc-kly ] [ VX ] 00:41 [ CIA-8 ] [ kristian] [ mtr ] [ owl] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 00:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 00:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 00:41 -!- [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). 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Thanks! 00:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 27 secs 01:14 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 01:17 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:17 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 02:01 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 02:06 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 02:31 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 02:32 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 02:33 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:56 < mnemoc> finally back home 02:56 < mnemoc> what a discusting day 03:04 < ojh> mnemoc: ??? 03:04 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 03:06 < mnemoc> we had voting... presindent, senator, and 'diputado', and i was in charge of one of the voting 'tables'... from 6:15 to 21:30 and *lot* of problems, hunger and 37°C 03:08 < ojh> mnemoc: IC 03:11 < mnemoc> and, as i was president of the table i have to go tomorrow again to 'present' the results to the 'electoral college' from 14:00 to 'who knows' :\ 03:44 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 03:53 < kristian> moin 05:08 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:40 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.24] has joined #t2 05:40 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.94] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:40 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 06:34 < rxr> ~re 06:35 < ojh> rxr: Hi. 06:35 < rxr> hi ojh ! 06:35 < rxr> ojh: in which timezone are you ? 06:36 < ojh> rxr: Pacific coast, USA. 06:38 < ojh> rxr: I have made progress designing the - what started out as a program launcher - tool for ZDE. It has morphed into a generic file metedata quering tool. See the update on http://zirconium.xisystems.net/ 06:40 < rxr> ojh: ah, cool ,-) 06:42 < ojh> rxr: I discovered that SQLight can do concurent access to DB files with out resorting to being server based. I am thinking that the Indexer just dumps data into the database file and Scout just has to query it back out. 06:43 < rxr> uh - bash -3.1 is out 06:43 < CIA-8> rene * r13862 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4) 07:08 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-0-194.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:24 < rxr> cu 08:01 -!- CIA-8 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:13 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 08:28 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFE2B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:55 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 09:03 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:21 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 09:22 < mipe> Error logs from desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop: 09:22 < mipe> 678 builds total, 670 completed fine, 8 with errors. 09:26 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@sourcemage/guru/geekitus] has joined #t2 09:37 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@sourcemage/guru/geekitus] has quit ["Parti"] 09:38 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@sourcemage/guru/geekitus] has joined #t2 09:45 < mtr> moin 10:31 < mipe> hmm, why nssdb is patched to link against berkely db static and not dynamic? 10:39 < mipe> 678 builds total, 672 completed fine, 6 with errors. 11:05 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 11:14 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:00 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:08 * VX is back (gone 01:03:27) 12:09 -!- VX is now known as Xenos 12:12 < rxr> hi 12:12 < Xenos> hello, rxr 12:19 < rxr> hi Xenos 12:19 < karasz> moin all 12:20 < rxr> moin karasz 12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r13864 /trunk/package/shells/bash/ (4 files): * updated bash (3.0 -> 3.1) 12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r13863 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-parser/perl-html-parser.desc: * updated perl-html-parser (3.46 -> 3.48) 12:21 < CIA-9> rene * r13865 /trunk/package/develop/boost/ (boost.conf boost.desc): * updated boost (1.33.0 -> 1_33_1) - no manual install hackery anymore 12:57 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF9F69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 13:01 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF9D34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 < CIA-9> rene * r13866 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 13:13 < CIA-9> * reverted r13810, generating of PS instead of PDF in the archivista target 13:13 < CIA-9> (because this bring other trouble in post-processing) 13:13 < CIA-9> * instead keep the jobs (PS) near the freshly generated PDF 13:24 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 13:24 < madtux> hello. 13:30 < rxr> moin miguel ,-) 13:30 < madtux> hi Rene :) 13:30 < rxr> how is the world over there today ? 13:30 < madtux> a bit cold and cloudy atm.. but it will all go away in a couple of hours max 13:30 < madtux> how about in germany? 13:31 < rxr> old as well, winter here ... but thats ok (for me (tm)) 13:31 < rxr> ^-c 13:31 < madtux> I have been talking to holyolli he is finding me some cheap tickets to go to germany next year .. i am planning to go see germany kick our ass at the opening game of the world cup, and visit friends. 13:38 < rxr> holiolli is still on the net? have not seen him for years now 13:40 < madtux> well not doing much development as he is more into his career (pilot) but i always keep track of my friends. 13:41 < madtux> I would even call you every once in while.. but i've heard its dangerious to call you... specially if you are focused on comercial pieces of code. 13:41 < rxr> since when is it dagerous to call me ? 13:44 < madtux> I've just heard its dangerous to break ur concentration. 13:44 < madtux> but hey.. maybe one of this days i will ya just to bug a bit. 13:44 < madtux> :) 14:04 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:17 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 14:23 < CIA-9> rene * r13867 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (etc/cups/cupsd.conf home/archivista/mail-config.sh): 14:23 < CIA-9> * fixed newest archivista cupsd.conf overlay patch encoding 14:23 < CIA-9> * added configuration of the mail From address to archivista 14:24 < CIA-9> rene * r13868 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.conf: 14:24 < CIA-9> * fixed boost to not append massive versioning to the installed 14:24 < CIA-9> files and directories 14:54 < CIA-9> rene * r13869 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/exim/configure: 14:54 < CIA-9> * further improved the zero-config archivista mail server setup to try 14:54 < CIA-9> local delivery first, so it does work even if no nameserver is available 14:55 < rxr> 4171 builds total, 3713 completed fine, 235 with errors. 14:55 < rxr> mostly gcc-4.x, app-defaults not found and other noise such as e17 errors left ,-) 15:05 < mtr_> hi 15:05 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 15:05 < rxr> hi mtr 15:05 < mtr> rxr: which e17 errors do you mean ? can you please update your reference build errors on ec-outpost.dyndns.org? 15:05 < mtr> hi rxr 15:06 < karasz> hello 15:07 < karasz> rxr can i have your attention for a minute? 15:07 < rxr> karasz: I think so 15:07 < karasz> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/power/downloads.html 15:07 < madtux> wow... 15:08 < karasz> ^^ rock linux on power ??? 15:08 < karasz> not openpower though ;) 15:09 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 15:09 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 15:12 < demian> hi 15:12 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:13 < rxr> mail sent to IBM ,-) 15:14 < rxr> mtr: http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-errs/ 15:14 < karasz> mail to IBM? 15:15 < karasz> why? 15:15 < rxr> karasz: we should be in the list of open power distributions ,-) 15:15 < rxr> karasz: do you see us in the list ? 15:15 < karasz> we will 15:15 < karasz> i mean we will be in the list 15:15 < karasz> i am workin on it 15:15 < rxr> in that case: two mails are better than one ,-) 15:15 < madtux> buenos dias demian 15:16 < karasz> before that i must show them an T2 powered OpenPower box though 15:16 < karasz> i am not using mails, but my contact at IBM 15:16 < madtux> demian, i went to the "fiestas tipicas" at moncho yesterday 15:17 < karasz> rxr note that that lidt includes Power 32 bits too 15:17 < karasz> since only redhat and suse have ports for Power64 15:17 < rxr> karasz: rock linux _never_ runs on 64bit powerpc right now ... 15:17 < demian> madtux: gd morning too. 15:17 < demian> brb 15:17 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit ["leaving"] 15:17 < karasz> beside us i mean ;) 15:17 < rxr> not to mention their ppc32 support is majorly rotting away since I and valentin left there ... 15:18 < rxr> I think they will just add T2 on mail notification ,-) 15:18 < karasz> maybe 15:18 < rxr> advertising t2 to your contacts is still very useful of course ,-) 15:18 < karasz> i du not know how interested they are in this... 15:19 < karasz> since both redhat and suse means both money and strategic partnerships ;( 15:19 < rxr> yep 15:19 < karasz> despite the fact that they run like crap 15:19 < rxr> but sooner or later every commercial company shows it's uglyness ... 15:20 < rxr> redhat is not exactly what you want to have as partners and suse @ Novell also shows that they are doing strange hops every now and then such as deprecatign KDE in favour of Gnome junk ... 15:20 < karasz> but i guess that an OpenPower Certified sticker would not hurt T2 15:20 < karasz> would it? 15:20 < rxr> with such random decision I doubt they will have too much succes ... 15:20 < rxr> karasz: nope ,-) 15:20 < karasz> SuSE will not ever drop KDE 15:20 < karasz> it is a hype 15:21 < karasz> but i couldn't care less about that since SuSE is slow as a chameleon 15:22 < karasz> i guess theur mascot is very apropriate ;) 15:22 < rxr> hm - then we should not luse a caterpiller, since they are slow as well .-( 15:22 < karasz> a lot faster than a chameleon 15:22 < karasz> didn't you saw how they move? 15:23 < rxr> maybe a flink butterfly we should use then ,-) 15:23 < rxr> cameleons or caterpillers ? 15:23 < karasz> a step forward is taken after they tried it at least 6 times... :D 15:23 < karasz> chameleons 15:23 < rxr> hohoho ,-) 15:23 < rxr> nice 15:23 * rxr never watched those so far 15:23 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:24 < karasz> they almpst do a touch down, but no, go back, try another one, almost there but just to be sure let's do it again..... and so on 15:24 < karasz> quite funny if you ask me 15:25 < karasz> and that is only a part of it 15:25 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 15:25 < karasz> why a camelon? do they change collors so often? or it is not about changing colors but something else? 15:26 < karasz> anyway enough ranting about Suse, last word brrrrrr! 15:27 < CIA-9> rene * r13870 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.conf: 15:27 < CIA-9> * fixed boost to always install it's files, fixed a typo in a 15:27 < CIA-9> variable name and removed some more unneeded chars 15:27 < madtux> karasz, just for the record... suggestions are very welcome at miguel_at_suse.com 15:28 < karasz> ok 15:28 < karasz> noted that 15:28 < rxr> madtux: which is? Miguel De Icaza or so ? 15:28 < madtux> hehe... just kidding. 15:28 < madtux> :) 15:28 < madtux> rxr, i believe its an alias for Icaza's email yeah 15:29 < madtux> ah it aint glamurous enough for me.. 15:29 < madtux> maybe someday i will be miguel_at_exactcode_dot_de 15:29 < madtux> now thats glamurous :) 15:30 < rxr> hehehe 15:30 < madtux> ok time to svn up ... i feel like messing everything up today 15:30 < rxr> madtux: what do you mess up ? 15:32 < madtux> nothing really.. i wanted to freak you guys up a bit. 15:32 < karasz> sugestion: instead of an catepillar mutant why don't we do a catepillar-cheetah-mutant? 15:32 < madtux> rxr, i'm just get up to date on what has been done and see if i can do a bit of work 15:32 < karasz> i realy want to see that solved by some artist .... hehe 15:32 < madtux> of course i am crossing my fingers hoping i still have svn +w access 15:35 < rxr> sure 15:37 < madtux> Nice 15:39 < CIA-9> rene * r13871 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (backup.sh net-backup.sh): 15:39 < CIA-9> * implemented utilization of the new From configuration in the archivista 15:39 < CIA-9> target for scsi and net backup notifications 16:16 < demian> re 16:17 < madtux> bienvenido 16:21 < rxr> re 16:23 < madtux> Willkommen 16:25 < karasz> got to do a restart :'( 16:29 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 17:29 < karasz> really silent in here, isn't it.... 17:30 < madtux> sshhh... do not disturb de waters. 17:31 < madtux> *G* 17:34 * demian putting attention to a opensuse team server conference.. 17:34 * karasz can be very silent if it is required ;) 17:34 < madtux> karasz, no u are ok ... make as much noise as u wish :) 17:34 < madtux> demian, heretic. 17:43 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF00D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:49 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:51 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 18:02 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 19:38 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has joined #t2 19:44 < misl> hi folks 19:44 < karasz> hi 20:07 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit ["leaving"] 21:08 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.48] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21 < jsaw> re 21:23 < misl> Hi jsaw :) 21:23 < jsaw> hi misl 21:42 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@sourcemage/guru/geekitus] has quit [Success] 21:46 -!- ojh [n=omer@67-40-124-252.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 21:47 < jsaw> gotta go on learning, cu 21:51 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF00D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:04 < rxr> re 22:06 < ojh> rxr: Is the inotify feature enabled in the Trunk kernel? 22:14 < rxr> oehm - I think so 22:14 < rxr> though I do not know for sure off-hand 22:17 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 22:46 < Xenos> 'night all 22:46 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. 22:47 < valentin> re 22:47 < valentin> hi rxr, you got reply-mail 22:50 < valentin> at least i hope this mailing worked 23:05 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD46B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:11 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.48] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue Dec 13 00:00:11 2005