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00:25 < valentin> rock got an automatized update tracker, too
00:25 < valentin> http://www.rocklinux.net/checkver/
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00:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
00:57 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
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01:44 < kristian> morning
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04:01 < kristian> does someone here know how coldplugging is working? - can i tell the kernel to initiate hotplug events for my devices or do i have to parse sysfs?
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04:55 < rxr> kristian: parse sysfs / prof
04:55 < rxr> proc
04:55 < rxr> moin all
04:57 < rxr> valentin: what a crap
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06:37 < kristian> moin rxr aha i c
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09:49 < kristian> "A new uevent device attribute in sysfs can be used to manually force the creation of a hotplug event for an existing device. This feature can be used to regenerate hotplug events for devices which were present when the system was booted." <-- change to 2.6.15
09:49 < kristian> how can I just convince the company to switch to up to date kernel
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11:09 < mipe> anyone awake? rxr,mnemoc?
11:09 < rxr> sure
11:09 < rxr> hi mipe
11:09 < mipe> hi
11:10 * VX is away: bmstu
11:10 < rxr> though hacking ARGB cursors into the nsc driver for the Geode LX here ...
11:10 < mipe> btw. does anyone make Geode boxes for regular consumers? low power consumption would be ideal for me
11:11 < mipe> /package/base/nssdb
11:11 < rxr> mipe: yes
11:11 < mipe> libdb4.patch
11:11 < mipe> why do we change it to static(.a) linking?
11:11 < rxr> we buy DT Research minipc2 from the german supplier (shipped to the garget marked into switzerland)
11:11 < rxr> do not know off hand
11:12 < rxr> maybe the patch is ancient
11:12 < rxr> did you check svn log ?
11:12 < mipe> nope
11:12 < rxr> svn log and svn blame are your best friends ...
11:12 < rxr> and new patches should carry an eplenation on the top ...
11:12 < mipe> rxr: how much Geode boxes cost?
11:12 < rxr> though when you already ask this patch likely has not, right?
11:12 < rxr> we only do the development - so no idea ... ,-)
11:13 < rxr> the page listed somethign like 500EUR or so
11:13 < rxr> reseller prices are 100++ EUR less ...
11:13 < rxr> but - well - we are just base technology provider ,-)
11:14 < rxr> http://www.cool-shop.de or so is a online shop listing those IIRC
11:14 < mipe> hmm, do you know any other boxes that consume about same power?
11:14 < rxr> I think not in the x86 area
11:14 < rxr> this reseller has a lot Transmeta boxes rotting around I heared
11:14 < rxr> if you are interested I can call them for a price ... ,-)
11:14 < rxr> they might be low price if they want to flush them out of the store ...
11:15 < rxr> and if you only need low-power but not that recent performance you can go for older Geode GX boxes - mine is LX
11:16 < rxr> the GX also has video overlaying - at least the X.org driver has code for that
11:17 < rxr> the LX plays mpeg2 videos quite fine - no idea how the old GX performs ...
11:17 < rxr> and the GX has no ARGB cursors I think ...
11:18 < mipe> rxr: that would be great if you could get a price tag for it. but no hurry, since i already spend all my money for xmas presents, so IF i get one its after xmas
11:19 < rxr> for the transmeta boxes?
11:19 < mipe> yep
11:21 < rxr> ok
11:22 < rxr> so - what's about the static linking issue? any questions still or problem due to that?
11:23 < mipe> nope, i removed the patch. now it builds on x64, but have to check that it doesnt cause any errors, svn log says that it fixes crash but was dated 2003 so it might be obsolete....
11:39 < valentin> hi
11:39 < valentin> rxr: what's a crap ? checkver ?
11:40 < valentin> there is no real notification as far as i am concerned
11:42 < rxr> valentin: interface design of this thing is a bare 6 in classic school grades ...
11:42 < rxr> I doubt it will be used and of much use ...
11:42 < rxr> yet another thing done worst as possible, a nice successor of rock sonar ...
11:43 * rxr only a few bits away from lovely accelerated ARGB cursors on the Geode LX ...
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12:36 < valentin> grrr... OSX....
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12:44 < rxr> yay
12:44 < rxr> ARGB curosr do work now in the LX ,-)
12:45 < rxr> I only wonder if the color is right
12:45 < rxr> looks a bit grayish
12:45 < rxr> but maybe that is how the cursor look like ...
12:45 < rxr> the redglass are red and the dump of the cursor in imagemagick looks gray as well ...
12:49 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com: Read similar articles Torvalds: 'Use KDE'
12:50 < rxr> @Without tip-toeing around the matter, Linus Torvalds made his preference in the GNOME vs. KDE matter quite clear on the GNOME-usability list: "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE. This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do. Please, just tell people to use KDE." Also, "Gnome seems to be developed by interface nazis, where consistently the excuse for not doing something is not 'it's too complicated to do', but 'it would confuse users'."@
12:51 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0512/42163.html
12:51 < rxr> `- even on golem.de: Linus Torvalds: Nutzt KDE!
12:55 < rxr> xf86-video-nsc/src# svn diff | diffstat amd_lx_accel.c | 15 +++++++++ amd_lx_cursor.c | 87 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- amd_lx_dga.c | 3 + amd_lx_driver.c | 9 +++-- amd_lx_regacc.c | 1 amd_lx_shadow.c | 3 + amd_lx_video.c | 11 ++++-- nsc.h | 9 +++++ panel/platform.c | 4 +- 9 files changed, 130 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
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13:02 < rxr> 4171 builds total, 3907 completed fine, 264 with errors.
13:02 < rxr> so just about 130 packages that fail
13:09 < rxr> Committed revision 17.
13:10 < rxr> work in progress nsc driver ,-)
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13:13 < madtux> hi
13:14 < rxr> moin miguel
13:15 < madtux> hello ren
13:16 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13872 /trunk/package/graphic/hugin/ (hugin.desc widget.patch): * updated hugin (0.5-rc2 -> 0.5)
13:18 < karasz> moin all mates
13:19 < rxr> moin kristian
13:19 < kristian> moin
13:21 < kristian> ;)
13:27 < karasz> rxr can you forward me the mail that you sent to IBM?
13:28 * VX is back (gone 02:18:06)
13:28 < valentin> why do all those 128 kBit streaming radios sound like a cokecan ?
13:32 < VX> hloall
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13:36 < CIA-9> rene * r13873 /trunk/package/audio/jack/jack.desc: * updated jack (0.100.0 -> 0.100.7)
13:36 < rxr> valentin: not vbr and crappy codec ...
13:37 < rxr> valentin: maybe intentional - otherwise they might not get the license to stream the audio out or so ..
13:37 < rxr> and too expensive ...
13:38 < rxr> http://dl.exactcode.de/oss/xorg/
13:39 < rxr> R3 includes RGBA HW cursors for Geode LX ,-)
13:39 < rxr> not to mention even XVideo acceleration works ,-)
13:39 < rxr> now I only have to find out why the video mode get's corrupted on X exit
13:41 < valentin> damn, where does NSUserDefaults store its keys ?
13:41 < rxr> in your home dir
13:41 < rxr> in some Library something folder
13:41 < rxr> ApplicationLibrary or whatsoveer
13:42 < valentin> there is a file named de.exactcode.exactscan
13:42 < madtux> rxr, any news fom morfoh?
13:42 < valentin> but the settings seem not to be there
13:42 < rxr> with a subdir or xml file - ah yes
13:42 < rxr> valentin: a customer also complained that exactscan would not save them
13:42 < rxr> maybe there is still a bug somewhere ?
13:42 < rxr> madtux: nope
13:42 < madtux> rxr, uff.
13:43 < valentin> rxr: the next problem is "hardwiring" the drivers default-domain to some fixed position
13:43 < madtux> mnemoc, silly question... are there any t2 guest images for vserver?
13:43 < valentin> so the profile data is not saved inside photoshop config or so
13:46 < rxr> valentin: did you tested how it behaves so far ?
13:59 < valentin> hm another thing on exactscan triggered duplex adf scans.... the progress dialog shows "initializing scan" while scanning
13:59 < rxr> sshttp://www.softintegration.com/products/
14:00 < rxr> valentin: only on duplex scans ?
14:00 < valentin> don't know, i'll test
14:02 < valentin> rxr: what exactly is it that is saved ? folder and filename base and type ?
14:03 < rxr> what save do you mean?
14:03 < valentin> rxr: only while transfering the rear page
14:03 < rxr> the config values ?
14:03 < valentin> yes
14:03 < rxr> the config file should be a Apple standard XML plist thing
14:03 < rxr> ah - yes - those you listed should be saved
14:04 < valentin> it does not seem so. :((
14:04 < valentin> i use the trunk-version
14:04 < rxr> hm - I think when I tested it worked
14:04 < rxr> but a customer also complained last week (--) that it did not appear to work for him
14:05 < rxr> so VT switch and atexit mode switch fixed for Geode LX
14:05 < rxr> so - should be production ready ,-)
14:05 < valentin> nice
14:05 < rxr> http://dl.exactcode.de/oss/xorg/
14:06 < rxr> especially playing DVB-T MPEG2's at 0.9W with ~70% CPU load ...
14:06 < rxr> and open source graphic driver, compared to nVidia and Ati junk ...
14:06 < rxr> though it hos no 3d engine I think
14:06 < rxr> but XAA, XVideo and RGBA cursors are nice enough for me
14:07 < rxr> http://dl.exactcode.de/oss/xorg/nsc-amd-geode-lx-R4.patch
14:13 < karasz> rxr sorry to be that pushy but i really need some info since i must do a little T2 advertising to my IBM guy
14:13 < karasz> so any info i can use it is most wellcomed
14:18 < rxr> ah yep
14:18 < rxr> your address ?
14:18 < rxr> ah on the list
14:18 < rxr> all fine
14:20 < valentin> rxr: this geode thingy is a nice gadget for network radio, videoplayer and a crypto-babyphone :)
14:20 < rxr> karasz: mail sent
14:20 < rxr> valentin: yep
14:20 < rxr> valentin: we have 3 here ..
14:21 < rxr> one for susan, one to replace my RS6k to save energy and one for ongoing archivista quality assurance testing ...
14:21 < rxr> if you want one as well just drop me a note ...
14:21 < valentin> :)
14:21 * valentin dropping rxr a note
14:21 < valentin> pricing ?
14:22 < rxr> 3xx EUR for us I think ...
14:22 < rxr> but as I wrote earlier today we are just technology partner / provider and I do not follow the pricing too closely ...
14:25 < rxr> valentin: my current task queue is flushed now - I could wake the G5 then and join OS suX hackery ...
14:27 < valentin> if you could find out why property saving works on your side ;)
14:27 < valentin> rxr: you do not need to join my hackery unless you want to do sth else on the driver
14:28 < rxr> I could review why the rear scan shows a wrong progress or if/why the config is not stored ..
14:29 < rxr> however I can happly continue on the linux side, e.g. make sure the audio part of the Geode LX works ,-)
14:30 < valentin> well, for i want to use it as a babyphone ... :)
14:30 < valentin> btw: kerstins bios beep was a fan warning in fact.
14:31 < rxr> the source is there - also already in ALSA CVS and linux26-mm
14:31 < rxr> however loading a hacked up module for 2.6.14 oopsed the box twice yesterday ...
14:31 < rxr> valentin: ah
14:31 < rxr> fan was defect? or just the bios max/min f*cked up ?
14:32 < valentin> i hope it is the bios default values and not the fan
14:32 < valentin> battery looses config every second day now
14:32 < valentin> i just adjusted the fan settings until it did not beep anymore
14:33 < valentin> however, cpu temperature is normal even after long usage
14:33 < rxr> so you need a new CMOS battery, ... ?
14:33 < valentin> yes
14:34 < valentin> need some tea
14:35 < valentin> oh - the values are in the config
14:35 < karasz> thanks rxr
14:35 < valentin> somehow they are not loaded
14:35 < karasz> can i forward it to the guy as it is?
14:37 < karasz> rxr...?
14:38 < rxr> karasz: sure - however I already sent it to the power*@ibm address ,-)
14:38 < rxr> valentin: hm
14:38 < karasz> i know taht but more doesn't hurt...
14:39 < rxr> sure - go for it
14:39 < valentin> rxr: nay, they are not saved. apple confused me. there are values for the last filedialog location in the plist, but those are not the values you save
14:40 < rxr> valentin: if you need motivation you can come over and work on the Dual Core mac ,-)
14:40 < rxr> just in case ...
14:40 < rxr> I also have white tea and jasmin green around ...
14:40 < valentin> esp since osx refuses to drive higher resolution than 1024x on the external video out
14:40 < rxr> valentin: there is a freeware hack that removes this restriction ...
14:41 < rxr> though I never tried it and would not ... for the sake of less instability ...
14:41 < valentin> less instability ? thats good, aint it ?
14:41 < rxr> valentin: most probably if the plist thing carries file dialog stuff it confused me when I tested that saving worked
14:42 < rxr> guess I looked into the file and marked it: yes, works ...
14:42 < rxr> when in fact it was not written out by my code
14:42 < valentin> you never tried if loading those preferences worked ?
14:42 < valentin> ic
14:42 < rxr> valentin: I meant to express that the freeware kernel video junk would lead to more instability - thus less instability without it ...
14:42 < valentin> ah
14:42 < rxr> valentin: guess I only looked into the file
14:42 < rxr> whe a customer said it does not work I most probably have not tested the GUI too much ...
14:42 < valentin> however, talking about stability... i miss my t2 linux atm
14:43 < rxr> as in when you are in os X ?
14:43 < rxr> yep - now that feeling
14:43 < rxr> you could ssh into grum ,-)
14:43 < rxr> or fire up the U30 to warm the room ,-)
14:44 < valentin> good idea. the U30 noise would shadow the artefact buzzing in the mp3 stream
14:44 < rxr> yep - definetly ...
14:44 < rxr> why don't you playback the files on our server from within iTunes ...
14:45 < rxr> http://www.shoutcast.com/ <- has some streams that do not sound too bad
14:45 < valentin> how ?
14:45 < rxr> valentin: nfs mount
14:45 < rxr> or scp whta you need ...
14:45 < valentin> did not want to configure nfs on grum
14:45 < rxr> I never tried NFS under this instable unix flavour apple is shipping ...
14:45 < rxr> scp then ,-)
14:46 < rxr> btw. my brother foudn a mp3 stream that has dream theather and alike stuff ...
14:46 < rxr> http://213.251.138.51:9021 I think it was
14:46 < valentin> the one i listen too now is quite ok, too. except for the codec quality
14:46 < rxr> yep
14:47 < rxr> on the french web radio my box is mostly tuned to I also wonder why some songs sound like crap @192kbps ...
14:47 < valentin> i had a very very good german shoutcast stream in the past. this guy featured a jukebox. You could queue song requests from a database via http
14:47 < rxr> nice ...
14:47 < rxr> died away ?
14:47 < valentin> but i think the guy got sued for that. the stream is long gone
14:47 < valentin> i can google if i find it again
14:48 < valentin> the jukebox thing was a good idea. if there happened to be some ppl with the same idea of good music, you had a nice program for the whole day
14:48 < rxr> btw. did I mention I had some strange interviewer on the phone a month ago
14:48 < valentin> ?
14:49 < rxr> about radio utilization ...
14:49 < rxr> radio and tv infact - but I have no tv ..
14:49 < valentin> http://www.fraggle-fm.net/
14:49 < valentin> that was it
14:49 < rxr> the woman was quite puzzled about stuff like: tv? none, which radio station: nachrichten, intnet usage: 24 hours a day - 24 hours what? - yes 24 hours ...
14:50 < rxr> s/nachrichten/news/ sorry ...
14:50 < valentin> hehe
14:52 < rxr> but I told here that if they would make it a real paytv, not this pseudo wanna be those public stations are now, I would order the tageschau for 50cent a month a get a tv ...
14:53 < rxr> no idea if it was teh GEZ wanting to find out if I really have no tv just a radio ...
14:53 < valentin> could be
14:54 < valentin> when they come knocking your door, they always ask "ich hoffe, ich stoere nicht gerade beim Fernsehen ?"
14:54 < rxr> but I would invite them if they really want to find out - for a tea with DVD on the LCD ...
14:54 < valentin> rxr: are you CRAZY ?
14:54 < valentin> they will take notes how many internet computers you have
14:55 < rxr> and them they what a hell they are ...
14:55 < valentin> and then ... you'll pay
14:55 < rxr> yes and then enforce this tax on internet connections as well ...
14:55 < rxr> but then all boxes go into a server room and I just keep the 40Mhz Sparc Station ... ,-)
14:55 < rxr> I doubt they can get their crappy http://www.ard.de realvideo whatever a/v codec running on it ...
14:56 < rxr> s/server room/off site location/
14:56 < rxr> but then they would carch my cell - with it's video capabilities ... :-(
14:57 < valentin> aahhrg
14:58 < valentin> when this tax comes we should emigrate
14:58 < valentin> back to development
14:59 < rxr> charge ... I think
14:59 < rxr> man I do typos here ...
15:00 < rxr> must be the GEZ driving me crazzy ...
15:01 < rxr> valentin: tell me if I should review s.th. I take a look at the geode audio patchery ...
15:05 < rxr> 00:01.2 Entertainment encryption device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Unknown device 2082
15:05 < rxr> ^- "Entertainment encryption device" ?
15:05 < rxr> AFAIK it only does AES, why is that entertainment ....
15:07 < valentin> because it is fun doing some cypherpunk stuff...
15:08 < rxr> valentin: btw. as you see the geode lx has a hardware aes implementation and a hardware random number generator
15:09 < valentin> nice
15:09 < valentin> at our faculty there is some need for good random sequences.
15:10 < valentin> however - i have to derandomize my osx behavior now...
15:15 < valentin> looks like the save routine (windowShouldClose) is never invoked
15:15 < rxr> ohem
15:15 < rxr> the h*ll freezes over
15:16 < valentin> at least not in my usecase
15:16 < rxr> it looks like reiser4 in linux26-mm ships with a compression plugin !!!!!!!!!!
15:16 < rxr> gzip anc lzo
15:16 < rxr> wow
15:16 < rxr> I think I give that code a try on some box in the next days ...
15:17 < rxr> per dir/file comrpession is one of the most wanted features on a linux fs on my side for some time now ....
15:17 < mnemoc> moin
15:17 < rxr> and reiser4 performance is astonishing wihout that in many cases anyway ...
15:17 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:17 < valentin> mnemoc: moin
15:17 < mnemoc> moin rxr, valentin
15:17 < valentin> mnemoc: who's president in chile now ?
15:17 < rxr> good to see you after your voting period ...
15:18 < mnemoc> valentin: draw.... jan 15 the second round
15:18 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks ,-)
15:18 < rxr> ouhm - even encryption plugin is there ...
15:19 < valentin> cool
15:19 < rxr> why the h*** are we not yet using reiser4 then nearly everywhere ...
15:19 < rxr> :-(((
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15:19 < mnemoc> rxr: why should i be using reiser4 instead of reiser3?
15:22 < valentin> rxr: i have no idea what that method is intended for. how about moving the save code to
15:22 < valentin> - (void)applicationWillTerminate: (id)sender
15:22 < valentin> instead ?
15:22 < rxr> i just se it now has compression and encryption - that is on a per file / dir bassis ..
15:22 < rxr> and over v3 it is even faster ,-)
15:22 < rxr> l'll give it a torture test the next days ..
15:23 < rxr> valentin: I wanted it to be saved when the preferences dialog is closed
15:24 < valentin> ah - me SOOOOO stupid
15:25 * rxr doubts
15:25 < rxr> oh - I have to go some time soon getting some stuff for mnemoc - like a de for es book ,-)
15:25 < valentin> works
15:25 < rxr> is already a bit late for for the package to arrive till x-mas :-(
15:26 < rxr> valentin: worked or works now ?
15:26 < rxr> what was stupid sss
15:26 < valentin> rxr: think it ever worked
15:26 < valentin> don't ask...
15:27 * rxr would like to know since a customer mention prefs don't work for him ...
15:27 < valentin> what did he do ? use the preferences dialog ?
15:27 < rxr> yep
15:28 < valentin> hm
15:28 < valentin> i just altered stuff in the selection dialog. of course it did not save that.
15:29 < valentin> maybe he crashed the application ? afaik userdefaults are not written on disk at once
15:30 < rxr> hm
15:42 < rxr> Support for prefetching swapped memory (SWAP_PREFETCH) [Y/n/?] (NEW)
15:42 < rxr> ^- hm what is that ,-)
15:42 < mnemoc> support for prefetching swapped memory :)
15:45 < rxr> Framebuffer Console Rotation (FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION) [N/y/?] (NEW)
15:46 < karasz> hello mnemoc :)
15:46 < mnemoc> hi karasz
15:46 < karasz> i will not ask `how are you` ;)
15:47 < mnemoc> rxr: linux26 is a box full of misteries these months
15:49 < rxr> This patch implements swap prefetching when the vm is relatively idle and
15:49 < rxr> there is free ram available. The code is based on some early work by Thomas
15:49 < rxr> Schlichter.
15:49 < rxr> This stores a list of swapped entries in a list ordered most recently used
15:49 < rxr> and a radix tree. It generates a low priority kernel thread running at nice 19
15:49 < rxr> to do the prefetching at a later stage.
15:50 < mnemoc> default: y
15:52 < rxr> + What this will do on workstations is slowly bring back applications
15:52 < rxr> + that have swapped out after memory intensive workloads back into
15:52 < rxr> + physical ram if you have free ram at a later stage and the machine
15:52 < rxr> + is relatively idle. This means that when you come back to your
15:52 < rxr> + computer after leaving it idle for a while, applications will come
15:52 < rxr> + to life faster.
15:52 < rxr> ,-)
15:52 < rxr> ok - so know we are up to date again on latest linux-kernel hackery ,-)
15:53 < mnemoc> :)
15:55 < rxr> config FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_ROTATION
15:55 < rxr> Enable display rotation for the framebuffer console. This is done
15:55 < rxr> in software and may be significantly slower than a normally oriented
15:55 < rxr> display. Note that the rotation is done at the console level only
15:55 < rxr> such that other users of the framebuffer will remain normally
15:55 < rxr> oriented.
15:55 < rxr> this reminds me I have to test my amd_lx_*.c hackery for rotation
15:56 < rxr> at least the ARGB mouse cursor might not be correctly oriented with rotation
15:56 < mnemoc> curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'gsmp.tfh-berlin.de'
15:56 < mnemoc> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 6. Please read the curl manpage.
15:56 < rxr> .oO(/ http://www.digit8.net/gallery/sex_scam.jpg)
15:57 < mnemoc> .oO( *G* )o
15:57 < rxr> hm - seems to work from here
15:57 < rxr> maybe extreme DNS caching I perform
15:58 < rxr> $ ssh gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
15:58 < rxr> rene@gsmp.tfh-berlin.de's password:
15:58 < rxr> nope - off-site functional as well
15:59 < mnemoc> .oO
16:10 < rxr> re
16:10 < rxr> ah - cool
16:10 < rxr> works mostly
16:11 < rxr> though it uses shadowfb translation in this case ...
16:11 < rxr> but my RGBA cursor code needs adaptions - pointer is not rotated ...
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16:44 < valentin> rxr: what about that hurd talk ? was that today ?
16:44 < rxr> .oO
16:44 < rxr> yes
16:44 < rxr> damn
16:44 < rxr> thanks for that reminder
16:45 < rxr> valentin: do you join that
16:45 < rxr> I think it was around 19 o'clock
16:46 < rxr> 17 bis 19 Uhr
16:46 < rxr> .oO
16:46 < rxr> Tucholskystrasse 48 10117 Berlin-Mitte
16:46 < rxr> valentin: ?
16:47 < rxr> oh - in the area where mofoh is supposed to live
16:47 < rxr> though no idea whare that is exactly ...
16:47 < valentin> are you going ?
16:48 < rxr> I think we should
16:48 < rxr> do you come as well?
16:48 < valentin> a bit late now for that...
16:48 < valentin> i almost forgot
16:49 < rxr> me too
16:49 < rxr> well
16:49 < rxr> 17 - 19 o clock
16:49 < rxr> we will still get the important parts ...
16:49 < valentin> maybe you go now ?
16:51 < demian> hi
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18:56 * madtux greets nazgul
19:00 < nzg> hi madtux
19:00 < nzg> so, i finally removed the furniture from my flat in aachen.
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20:43 < MisterN> hi
22:00 < demian> hi MisterN
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22:30 < Xenos> good night all ;)
22:30 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. ;>
23:43 < MisterN> n8
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23:52 < valentin> hm, rxr seems to have a nice evening at newthinking...
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23:52 < sepp> moin
23:52 < valentin> rxr: i think i have to switch to the old CFPreferences stuff again
23:52 < valentin> moin sepp
23:52 < sepp> hi valentin
23:53 < valentin> rxr: NSUserDefaults suck for inter-application configs
23:56 < sepp> if some pkg misses -lpthred, should i use GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND or some other way?
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