--- Log opened Wed Dec 14 00:00:11 2005 00:03 < valentin> sepp: using the wrapper would be a solution... 00:08 < sepp> i know that gcc wrapper will work, just not sure if its "the best way" 00:32 < valentin> sepp: to be honest i have no idea (besides messing with makeopts or writing a patch) 00:32 < valentin> i have seen stuff like that in the wrapper, so i think it is ok. 00:32 < valentin> gn8 00:32 < sepp> good night valentin 00:34 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13874 /trunk/package/e17/entropy/entropy.desc: * repriorized entropy after ewl 00:35 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13875 /trunk/package/e17/embrace/embrace.desc: * repriorized embrace after edje 00:37 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13876 /trunk/package/e17/emotion/emotion.desc: * updated emotion (2005-11-14 -> 2005-12-10) - upstream fix for xine-lib 1.1.1 00:38 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13877 /trunk/package/e17/eclair/eclair.conf: * append -lpthread 01:08 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178131012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 01:08 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 01:08 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 01:08 [Users #t2] 01:08 [@ChanServ ] [ demian ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 01:08 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 01:08 [ CIA-9 ] [ kristian] [ mnemoc] [ ojh ] [ sepp] [ Xenos ] 01:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 01:08 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 01:08 -!- [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). 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Thanks! 01:08 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 26 secs 01:08 < rxr> re 01:10 < sepp> hi rxr 01:10 < rxr> hi sepp 01:11 [Users #t2] 01:11 [@ChanServ ] [ demian ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 01:11 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 01:11 [ CIA-9 ] [ kristian] [ mnemoc] [ ojh ] [ sepp] [ Xenos ] 01:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 01:11 < rxr> ok - 18 people around ,-) 01:12 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13878 /trunk/package/e17/evidence/evidence.desc: * fixed [U] typo 01:13 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) 01:15 < demian> bye 01:17 < mnemoc> bye demian 01:33 < sepp> good night all 01:40 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 02:02 < kristian> moin 02:04 < mnemoc> moin kristian 02:05 < kristian> mnemoc stil awake? 02:05 < mnemoc> [22:05:59] mnemoc stil awake? :) 02:05 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF069.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:37 < CIA-9> amery * r13879 /trunk/package/python/setuptools/ (. setuptools.conf setuptools.desc): * added setuptools (0.6a8) - a collection of enhancements to the Python distutils 02:48 < kristian> mnemoc south america? 02:48 < mnemoc> kristian: yes, chile 02:49 < madtux> chile... argentina... its all the same 02:49 < kristian> nice. :) - how is you wether? 02:50 < mnemoc> madtux: .cr, .pr .... its all the same 02:51 < mnemoc> kristian: 35°C :\ 02:52 < kristian> ~0 here. but there is just a bit of water between us. - strange. okay let's swap places... ;) 02:52 < mnemoc> madtux: both us colonies 02:53 < mnemoc> kristian: if you pay the tickets, sure :) 02:54 < kristian> mnemoc okay, 'got me. 03:02 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:41 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.198.212.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 03:51 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.201.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:09 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-34-237-99.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:45 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 07:45 < mipe> hi * 08:24 < kristian> hi mipe 08:36 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 08:50 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:56 < valentin> moin 08:59 < karasz> moin 09:03 < karasz> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/67168 09:03 < karasz> ^^ :) 09:16 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 09:16 < mtr> moin 09:27 < rxr> re 09:35 < karasz> hi rxr 09:36 < mtr> moin rxr, karasz 09:36 < karasz> hello mtr 09:37 < valentin> moin rxr, how was the talk ? 09:49 < mipe_> so boehm-gc should be working now on x64 09:49 * Xenos is back (gone 11:19:24) 09:49 < Xenos> hloall 09:54 < karasz> hi Xenos 09:59 < rxr> valentin: so lala - but I got a lot of useful contacts here in berlin 10:36 -!- geekitus__ [n=geekitus@d83-179-159-115.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 10:38 -!- geekitus__ is now known as geekitus 10:42 < valentin> rxr: did you call me ? 10:42 < rxr> not that I know of 10:42 < rxr> but we could phone nontheless 11:21 < rxr> so - rotated RGBA cursor is mostly there 11:23 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 11:30 < LMJ> Good morning 11:59 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:08 < rxr> moin LMJ 12:08 [Users #t2] 12:08 [@ChanServ ] [ demian ] [ kristian] [ mtr] [ sepp_ ] [ Xenos] 12:08 [ _Ragnar__] [ geekitus] [ LMJ ] [ owl] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 12:08 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr] [ valentin ] 12:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 12:29 < LMJ> how are you rxr ? 12:34 < rxr> fine 12:35 < rxr> ah serwou you are ,-), right? 12:35 < LMJ> yes ;) 12:35 < LMJ> seems i can't specify a nick per channel :-/ 12:36 < rxr> .oO 12:36 < Xenos> ... 12:42 < rxr> valentin: rotated RGBA cursors do work with Geode now 12:43 < rxr> XVideo acceleration does not when the screen got rotated, I review if that is fixable some time later 12:43 < rxr> so far I do not care due I normally do not rotate 12:43 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFA52D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:43 < rxr> DVB-T MPEG2 dump with audio playback took 70% cpu load and just playing mp3 on the box let's xmms consume 2%CPU, including the graphical scrolling and vu-meter .... 12:59 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFA7FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 < rxr> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088 13:20 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 13:20 < madtux> moin 13:21 < rxr> moin miguel 13:21 < madtux> :) 13:25 < CIA-9> rene * r13880 /trunk/package/develop/cmake/cmake.desc: * updated cmake (2.0.5 -> 2.2.3) 13:32 < CIA-9> rene * r13881 /trunk/package/base/readline/readline.desc: * updated readline (5.0 -> 5.1) 13:33 < rxr> valentin: btw. sound works on the geode ..., now 13:37 < CIA-9> rene * r13882 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.5-4 -> 6.2.5-5) 13:38 < CIA-9> rene * r13883 /trunk/package/security/dropbear/dropbear.desc: * makred dropbear DIETLIBC 13:48 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:28 -!- Netsplit herbert.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9, Xenos 14:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9 14:39 < valentin> rxr: you are my personal hero 14:41 < demian> ? 14:41 < demian> gd morning 14:41 < valentin> hi demian 14:49 < mnemoc> moin 14:54 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.244.249] has joined #t2 14:54 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@d213-103-18-17.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #t2 15:04 < rxr> moin mnemoc 15:06 < mnemoc> moin rxr 15:08 < demian> hi mnemoc 15:08 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@sourcemage/guru/geekitus] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:10 < mnemoc> hi demian 15:11 < rxr> mnemoc: how are you ? 15:12 < mnemoc> good question... :) i guess 'ok' 15:12 < mnemoc> and you? 15:16 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 15:16 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - jups - all fine 15:18 < mnemoc> nice :) 15:31 < rxr> cu 15:32 < Xenos> does anybody know how to install php 5 with sqlite 3 support?.. 15:33 < mnemoc> isn't enabled by php.conf when sqlite is installed? 15:33 < mnemoc> take a look into package/*/php/php.conf and add the missing check and confopt 15:35 < Xenos> em... 15:35 < Xenos> i can't build it 15:36 < Xenos> because php has own sqlite-module included in php-distribution 15:36 < mnemoc> as with mysql 15:37 < mnemoc> but there is a var to force shared and use _external_ 15:40 < Xenos> :mnemoc : as with mysql 15:40 < Xenos> no! 15:40 < Xenos> php has a full source-code of sqlite 15:40 < Xenos> but its version is very old :( 15:46 < karasz> hi mnemoc 15:46 < karasz> good to see you back ;) 15:46 < karasz> are you finished with election duties? 15:57 < mnemoc> karasz: there was a draw for president so i have to be again on jan 15 :\ 15:58 < mnemoc> Xenos: nothing like --enable-sqlite=/usr/blah/sqllite ? 15:58 < Xenos> no :( 15:59 < mnemoc> ask #php, and i tell you how to do that on t2 16:14 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.72] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:16 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.40] has joined #t2 17:04 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:20 < Xenos> "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." 17:20 < Xenos> :) 17:21 < mnemoc> o.o 17:24 < Xenos> mnemoc: :) 17:45 < geekitus_> « Always code as if the guy who ends up 17:45 < geekitus_> maintaining your code will be a violent 17:45 < geekitus_> psychopath who knows where you live. » 17:45 < geekitus_> John F. Woods 17:48 < Xenos> geekitus_: hello 17:49 < geekitus_> hi 17:50 < Xenos> geekitus_: still on sourcemage? :) 17:50 < geekitus_> now i will think in psychopath when i will programm somethings 17:50 < geekitus_> Xenos, oh, no 17:50 < geekitus_> Xenos, i leave sourcemage since 3 months 17:50 < geekitus_> not too stable for me 17:50 < Xenos> :) 17:50 < Xenos> for me too 17:50 < Xenos> t2 rulezz the world 17:53 < CIA-9> sebastian * r13884 /trunk/package/xorg/xinit/startwm.patch: * rediffed startwm.patch 17:55 < mnemoc> Xenos: t2 should rules the world, but doesn't :\ 17:55 < Xenos> ! 17:55 < Xenos> will! 17:55 < Xenos> i hope :> 17:56 < mnemoc> nah, most people is lazy or pimp, and they wont use T2 17:56 < Xenos> :) 17:56 < Xenos> it's time to f*ck microsoft.com 17:56 < Xenos> :) 17:56 * Xenos bought some book for hacking in linux 17:57 < Xenos> "_" 17:57 < mnemoc> covers something else than nmap and nessus? ^_^ 17:57 < Xenos> :) 17:57 < Xenos> ethereal maybe 17:58 < Xenos> & yep, nmap 17:58 < Xenos> :) 17:58 < mnemoc> yes, i forgot ethereal :p 18:00 < Xenos> :) 18:02 < demian> jeje 18:02 < demian> bye, have fun 18:04 < Xenos> bye, demian 18:26 < mnemoc> rxr: package matrix doesn't handle new 'buildtime' fields 18:41 < CIA-9> amery * r13885 /trunk/package/graphic/xpdf/ (xpdf.conf xpdf.desc): * updated xpdf (3.01 -> 3.01pl1) 18:46 < rxr> re 18:46 < rxr> where= 18:46 < rxr> ? even 18:46 < rxr> package matrix looks fine IMHO 18:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/bash.html 18:51 < rxr> Build time (on reference hardware): 35% (relative to binutils) 18:51 < rxr> mnemoc:do you see something that is defect ? 18:53 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:54 < mnemoc> 35% (relative to binutils), not '%' 18:54 < rxr> oehm 18:54 < rxr> that is official html encoding, right? 18:55 < rxr> just % is not portable, is it ? 18:55 < rxr> mnemoc: what browser are you using? 18:55 < mnemoc> firefox 18:55 < rxr> i intentionally wrote it this way ... 18:55 < rxr> work fine in konqueror ... 18:55 * rxr starting firefox 18:56 < rxr> urgs ... 18:56 < rxr> hm 18:56 < rxr> does firecrap need a space ? 18:56 < rxr> is just % legal html ? 18:56 < mnemoc> i think it's legal 18:57 < mnemoc> i have never seen % entity before 18:57 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/bash.html 18:58 < rxr> with a space firefox renders it ... 18:58 < rxr> oh - wait 18:58 < mnemoc> yes :) 18:58 < rxr> hm 18:58 < mnemoc> shift-refresh :) 18:58 < rxr> but on konqueror I have a spacing distance now ... 18:59 < mnemoc> o.o 18:59 < rxr> ah - no 18:59 < rxr> on firefox space does not work ... 18:59 < rxr> looked into the wrong window ... 18:59 < rxr> firefox sux ... 18:59 < rxr> mozilla crap anyway ... 19:00 < mnemoc> :) 19:00 < rxr> so I use % until someone complaints ... 19:00 < mnemoc> ok ,-) 19:01 < rxr> once I look into the html spec and then it does not work out - bummer ... 19:01 < mnemoc> *g* 19:04 < CIA-9> amery * r13886 /trunk/package/graphic/xpdf/ (ps.patch.t1lib tetex3.patch.t1lib xpdf.desc): * updated xpdf/t1lib (1.3 -> 5.1.0) 19:04 < rxr> 1.3 -> 5.1.0??? 19:05 < rxr> btw we should package the t1lib seperatly 19:05 < rxr> oh - my god ... 19:05 < mnemoc> who else need it? 19:05 < rxr> indeed such a version bump ... 19:06 < rxr> I saw some code pieces here and there 19:06 < mnemoc> yes, i'm not faking :) 19:06 < rxr> I think it is even bundled in tetex 19:06 < rxr> mnemoc: sure - but maybe typo ... 19:06 < mnemoc> o.o 19:06 < rxr> such version bumbs are unusual in t2 ... 19:06 < mnemoc> sure, but sub-packages tend to be forgoten 19:06 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 19:06 < sepp> moin 19:07 < mnemoc> moin sepp 19:07 < sepp> hi mnemoc 19:08 < rxr> mnemoc: split it ,-) 19:08 < rxr> I could as well though 19:08 < rxr> even debian has a seperate one 19:08 < rxr> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/t1lib 19:10 < mnemoc> on 2.2 it could be splitted 19:10 < mnemoc> but i'm doing merges now :p 19:25 * Xenos is away: smthng 4 anythng 19:28 < rxr> ok - I split 19:28 < mnemoc> :) 19:29 < mnemoc> and if you can remove bundled copies, much better :) 19:30 < mnemoc> OT: i was thinking in 'hooking' build_this_package, to let packages to add extract, config, make and install code on parse-config 19:31 < mnemoc> flist filtering methods, etc.. 19:32 < mnemoc> e.g. autoconf adding autoconf support, python adding python support, unzip adding autoextract_zip, etc... 19:35 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CE90E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:36 < rxr> ack 19:37 < MisterN> hi 19:38 < mnemoc> rxr: great to see you ack-ing :) 19:38 < mnemoc> wb MsN 19:41 < MisterN> traditions are good, right? sometimes, doubt bites me :p 19:41 < mnemoc> a:) 19:41 < mnemoc> -a 19:52 * Xenos is back (gone 00:26:43) 20:07 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.244.249] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:20 -!- geekitus_ [n=geekitus@d213-103-18-17.cust.tele2.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:32 < CIA-9> amery * r13887 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/xpdf/ (7 files): 20:32 < CIA-9> * merged 11099,11683,13885 from trunk: updated xpdf (3.00pl3 -> 3.01pl1) 20:32 < CIA-9> * merged 13886 from trunk: updated xpdf/t1lib (1.3 -> 5.1.0) 20:34 < rxr> in a second I commit the split 20:39 < CIA-9> rene * r13888 /trunk/package/graphic/ (7 files in 2 dirs): * split xpdf up into t1lib and xpdf alone 20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: you found t1lib update with the update tracker, don't you ? 20:40 < rxr> didn't you even ... 20:42 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, when i visited xpdf page :) 20:45 < rxr> update tracker notified us on dec the 6th 20:46 < rxr> most probably after I modified it to track more precisely ... 20:48 < mnemoc> my problem with the tracker is the 'step forward' feature 20:48 < mnemoc> so i still use checkver 20:54 < rxr> step forward ? 20:56 < mnemoc> check on diffrent dirs if the dir is versioned 20:56 < mnemoc> i can't use that on 2.1 21:15 < LMJ> hello mnemoc (and rxr) 21:17 < mnemoc> hi serwou 21:17 < LMJ> good one 21:17 < LMJ> i think i'm going to stay on that nick for a couple of weeks 21:18 < LMJ> working on a big translation stuff, and they know me as LMJ 21:19 < mnemoc> is that your name? 21:19 < mnemoc> or also a nick 21:19 < mnemoc> ? 21:28 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has joined #t2 21:28 < misl> hi folks 21:31 < rxr> mnemoc: got a mail from IBM that my open power mail was redirected to the person in charge of their web-page and we most probably will be listed soon as supported on their OpenPower page ,-) 21:35 < mnemoc> :D 21:36 < misl> :D 21:37 < mnemoc> hi misl 21:39 < rxr> hey misl 21:39 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. we should not yet invest time in hurd 21:39 < misl> hi rxr 21:39 < rxr> only if you want to dedicate a lot of free time in getting it going 21:39 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you know? 21:40 < mnemoc> rxr: news from yesterday's talk? 21:40 < rxr> thing is, that it is dog-slow, only runs on old (max Pentiun II) hardware, has still known security issues (like threads are not as isolated as they should be in mach) and the few developers (less than t2 has) are again seeking other stuff 21:40 < rxr> the wanted to use the L4 microkernel and now that they got it mostly running decided L4 is also no the best and look into yet other stuff .... 21:41 < rxr> I think the Hurd kernel will not be usable the next 10 years 21:42 < rxr> due to 3 people are changing it all the time rather than polishing it for initial usability ... 21:42 < rxr> however if you wanna become a hurd kernel hacker ... 21:42 < rxr> I think our time is way better invested into integrating stuff ready for production, OpenDarwin, OpenBSD, ... 21:43 < mnemoc> i prefer elks, freedos and reactos in that case :) 21:44 < rxr> fredos ? 21:44 < rxr> +e 21:44 < mnemoc> i don't like the little devil, and darwin is not atractive 21:44 < rxr> t2 dos ?? 21:44 < rxr> my oh my ... 21:44 < mnemoc> :) 21:44 < rxr> that I still see such things in my life ... 21:44 < rxr> well - sure - go for it ,-) 21:44 < mnemoc> i have lot of machines running freedos here 21:46 < rxr> ouhm - maybe we port linux to the MMU of the 80286 to make you even more happy ? 21:50 < mnemoc> elks works there :) 21:51 < rxr> but without MMU, right? 21:51 < rxr> 286 has a 386 a-like protected mode already, just a bit crippled ... 21:51 < rxr> as intel was even less experienced at that time 21:52 < rxr> and you can not exit from the 286 protected mode IIRC and there is no vm86 real mode on it ... 21:52 < rxr> but IIRC aside those limitations it was mostly useful ... 21:52 < rxr> I think there is no linux kernel yet 21:52 < rxr> that does drive the MMU ... 21:54 < mnemoc> elks is designed for 8088 and 8086 21:55 < mnemoc> 286 was the first computer i payed :) 21:55 < valentin> time to drive home again 21:59 < mnemoc> cu valentin 22:02 < rxr> valentin: ouhm 22:02 < rxr> valentin: called you already since I did not tought you would still hang out in AH ... 22:03 < rxr> so susan had some time chatting with kersin ... 22:03 < rxr> /we dinnerH 22:04 < valentin> good apetite :) 22:04 < valentin> cu then... 22:35 * misl off to bed, sleep well all. 22:35 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 22:38 < demian> re 22:39 < demian> does anyone else receive frecuent HTTP GETs to http://proxyking.servehttp.com:8080/pk/service?service=Echo in the apache logs ? 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