--- Log opened Sat Dec 24 00:00:06 2005
--- Day changed Sat Dec 24 2005
00:00 < rxr> a kernel panic in reiserfs due x86-64 with recent 2.6 kernels is very unlikely
00:00 < rxr> but I read about a devfs corruption on 64bit ...
00:00 < rxr> did he has a backtrace /
00:00 < rxr> ? even
00:00 < mnemoc> karasz: ?
00:00 < karasz> yes?
00:01 < mnemoc> do you have a backtrace of your panic using reiserfs?
00:01 < karasz> nope :(
00:01 < mnemoc> :(
00:01 < karasz> i wiped out everything and installed with ext3
00:02 < karasz> but don't be very sad mnemoc 
00:02 < karasz> i will check that again some time
00:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I run reiserfs exclusively, also on my subnotebook
00:06 < mnemoc> it's impressing to see how broken dependency detection on python packages is
00:06 < mnemoc> rxr: 2.1?
00:06 < rxr> I tested the 2.1 CD I built partially
00:07 < rxr> but no long time testing
00:07 < rxr> need it for decent development
00:07 < rxr> right now I reinstalled the the root partition ever hour the last days
00:07 < mnemoc> oh
00:08 < mnemoc> is that game finished?
00:08 < rxr> jsaw: the SDECFG_PKGFILE_TYPE conditional you pasted hours ago is already gone in my local tree
00:08 < rxr> game?
00:08 < mnemoc> *g*
00:08 < mnemoc> reinstall reinstall reinstall reinstall
00:08 < mnemoc> development cycle game :)
00:08 < jsaw> .oO
00:08 < mnemoc> j/k
00:09 < jsaw> rxr: send it, I was just about to remove it...
00:09 < rxr> send as in commit?
00:10 < jsaw> :) yes
00:10 < rxr> yes when the other mod some line below is tested
00:11 < karasz> maybe i should wait for rxr's livecd with installer...oO
00:12  * mnemoc moving home
00:12 < karasz> cu mnemoc 
00:12 < rxr> cu mnemoc 
00:12 < karasz> and if not
00:12 < karasz> a very happy xmas to u
00:12 < Stelz> 'night all
00:13 < Stelz> & cu this morning..
00:13  * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Sat Dec 24 02:11:40 ]
00:13 < Stelz> :D
00:13  * Stelz is away: dropped to bed..
00:13 < rxr> 0:12 ehre
00:13 < rxr> here
00:13 < rxr> so - happy christmas ,-)
00:13 < karasz> 1:14 here
00:13 < rxr> sleep well Stelz 
00:14  * karasz renames rxr to Santa
00:14 < CIA-20> rene * r14158 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: 
00:14 < CIA-20> * removed unneeded and defect SDECFG_PKGFILE_TYPE conditional
00:14 < CIA-20> * removed [COPY] lines form the package.db
00:14  * karasz prepares his boots....
00:19 < rxr> benh on #ppc64 complains his new powerbook gets as hot to burn his legs ..
00:19 < rxr> PowerBook5,8
00:19 < karasz> :(
00:22 < valentin> happy xmas all
00:24 < karasz> same to u valentin 
00:25 < rxr> anyone here willing to test minimal (x86) the next hours?
00:25  * rxr rebooting into the next burn cu
00:26 < karasz> rxr?
00:30 < rxr> re
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00:37 < karasz> re
00:39 < karasz> hmm...
00:41 < karasz> xproto does not build :(
00:44 < Baldzius> no problem here
00:47 < valentin> cu after sleep
00:47 < valentin> gn8 all
00:48 < karasz> gn6 valentin 
00:49 < Baldzius> gn8
00:54 < jsaw> cu valentin 
00:55 < jsaw> falling into bed, too
00:55 < jsaw> cu all
00:56 < karasz> cu jsaw 
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01:00 < karasz> re
01:01  * karasz is like a blind mouse in a dark hole
01:02 < Baldzius> :)
01:02 < Baldzius> why 's that?
01:03 < karasz> i am not used to irssi
01:03 < Baldzius> oh :) me 2
01:03 < Baldzius> i was bitchx user for long time
01:04 < karasz> i liked xchat...
01:04 < rxr> mnemoc: gpm to 00-minimlal ?
01:04 < Baldzius> hm can't say i like, but hmm it's ok
01:20 < mnemoc> rxr: for what?
01:22 < rxr> fur cut'n paste on the console
01:22 < rxr> ok not needed too much
01:22 < rxr> just wanted to ask
01:22 < mnemoc> :p
01:24 < rxr> back home ?
01:24 < mnemoc> sure
01:24 < mnemoc> showered and ready to keep working
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01:35 < rxr> have you read over the new init of install/
01:37 < mnemoc> let me update my trunk
01:39 < karasz> ldconfig: libraries libgcc_s_32.so and libgcc_s_32.so.1 in directory /usr/lib64 have same soname but different type
01:39 < karasz> any hint?
01:40 < mnemoc> different type?
01:40 < karasz> it say so...
01:40 < mnemoc> file /usr/lib64/libgcc_s_32.so{,.1}
01:41 < karasz> strange that so is symbolic link to so.1 which is
01:42 < karasz> ELF 32-bit LSB shared object
01:42 < karasz> so if one is a symbolic link to another how can they be different ???
01:43 < rxr> file does not dreference sym links
01:43 < rxr> all is fine
01:43 < karasz> but that is the error on which imake fails...
01:45 < karasz> or is this because:
01:46 < karasz> checking for x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-pkg-config...no?
01:48 < rxr> no idea from here
01:48 < rxr> but this pkg-config does not look good
01:49 < mnemoc> i have never seen a prefixed pkg-config
01:49 < karasz> pkg-config is fine
01:49 < karasz> just that with t2 is missed
01:49 < karasz> last hint:
01:49 < mnemoc> emerge pkg-config :)
01:50 < karasz> it is there
01:50 < karasz> ldconfig: /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 is not a symbolic link
01:52 < mnemoc> that's just a warning afaik
01:52 < karasz> no other errors...
01:53 < mnemoc> can you publish a regression report? (http)
01:53 < mnemoc> bah.... it's emerge
01:53 < mnemoc> regression report doesn't support emerge
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so -> libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so -> libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so -> libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
01:54 < rxr> oops
01:54 < rxr> oosoory
01:54 < rxr> only intended once
01:54 < rxr> this above is my working box
01:54 < rxr> I hate rsync
01:54 < mnemoc> ?
01:55 < mnemoc> libgcc_s_32.so ? _32_
01:55 < rxr> ah sorry
01:56 < rxr> just wasted a lot of bandwidth fo my parents non-flat DSL because rsync not reporting it did not wanted to create some tempfile
01:56 < rxr> had this before once
01:56 < rxr> crap
01:57 < mnemoc> rxr: pkginstalled -f fore 'really installed' ?
01:57 < mnemoc> for*
01:57 < karasz> xmkmf ....
01:57 < karasz> does imake depend on it?
01:58 < mnemoc> install xorg!
01:58 < karasz> i am doin' that mnemoc 
01:58 < karasz> at least i try to...
01:58 < karasz> i have xorg-server installed with emerge
01:58 < rxr> karasz: do you mix trunk and 2.1 ?
01:58 < mnemoc> oh, you are emerging from trunk?!
01:59 < mnemoc> bad bad idea
01:59 < karasz> of course ;)
01:59 < karasz> it is allways a bad ideea what i am doin'
01:59 < mnemoc> bad bad idea
01:59 < karasz> has to do with changin' xorg in trunk?
01:59 < mnemoc> 2.1 and 2.2 structure is too diferent for mixing them
01:59 < karasz> ok
01:59 < mnemoc> are*
02:00 < karasz> so i will wait for Santa then...
02:00 < karasz> i prepared my boots already...
02:01  * karasz is lookin' at rxr .oOOo.
02:01 < rxr> hehe
02:01 < rxr> well the iso would be online if rsync would not have left me
02:01 < karasz> or if not i will have to use the p4 desktop isos...
02:02 < karasz> so Santa is commin'?
02:02 < rxr> karasz: the iso will be on gsmp in 8 h
02:02 < mnemoc> the tempfile is a common rsync problem.... it uploads to limbo
02:02 < rxr> I re-re-resync right now
02:02  * karasz almost hears the bells from Santa's slade
02:02 < mnemoc> rxr: don't forget kdemultimedia please
02:03 < karasz> so monday will be dld time i guess....
02:03 < karasz> in that case, i want to wish you guys a very merry christmas
02:04 < karasz> and may Santa fulfill all your whishes ;)
02:04 < rxr> karasz: you are back on modaz?
02:04 < karasz> i guess so
02:04 < karasz> why?
02:05 < mnemoc> rxr: mine checks _needs_ $stagelevel -gt 1
02:05 < mnemoc> .oO( modaz = monday? )o
02:05 < karasz> mnemoc: german layout... :)
02:05 < mnemoc> :)
02:05 < karasz> so why did you ask rxr ?
02:09 < karasz> ok that's it
02:09 < karasz> cu guys and again a very merry christmas to you all
02:11 < rxr> re
02:11 < rxr> karasz: just if you are not here the next days
02:11 < rxr> ...
02:13 < karasz> ?
02:13 < karasz> saturday and sunday i will not be here
02:13 < karasz> so you have 2 days of peace
02:13 < karasz> you as in rxr and mnemoc :)
02:14 < mnemoc> :)
02:14 < karasz> is that a problem?
02:14 < mnemoc> nope
02:14 < mnemoc> you miss it
02:14 < karasz> rxr you want me to do smth?
02:14 < karasz> what do i miss?
02:15 < mnemoc> t2
02:15 < CIA-20> amery * r14159 /branches/2.1/package/archiver/mine/mine.conf: * fixed mine/dialog check (only _after_ stage 1, and fixed typo)
02:15 < rxr> test the cd ...
02:15 < karasz> yeah, i kinda hooked on this chan...
02:15 < karasz> it will not be available on monday?
02:15 < rxr> sure
02:16 < rxr> hoped to have some tester .-)
02:16 < rxr> but no problem
02:16 < karasz> rxr my health depends on me being home the next 2 days
02:16 < karasz> if i am not i will get my head ripped off :(
02:16 < rxr> I want you healthy ,-)
02:17 < rxr> cu on monday - and happy christmas ,-)
02:17 < karasz> but monday i will report on duty and test the CD
02:17 < karasz> same to u all guys
02:17 < karasz> bye
02:19 < CIA-20> amery * r14160 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/mine.conf: * fixed mine/dialog support to only enable this after stage 1
02:22 < rxr> ok - I have autoload in 1st stage now
02:22 < rxr> will test before I take a nap I thnk
02:22 < rxr> just need to wait for rsync to transfer the file before I reboot
02:22 < rxr> oh - minimal does miss diffstat
02:23 < mnemoc> _minimal_ :)
02:23 < mnemoc> pkgsel is there to customize your build
02:23 < mnemoc> gpm, diffstat, ... :)
02:24 < rxr> heh
02:25 < rxr> i hope itwas ok to ad strace ...
02:25 < mnemoc> :)
02:25 < mnemoc> i'm ok with strace :)
02:26 < rxr> it was jsaw who added jfsprogs and xfsutils o the other way round as well as parted ...
02:27 < rxr> so, ..
02:27 < rxr> hm - this lag kills me
02:29 < mnemoc> i'm ok with those too ,-) if our installer offer xfs and jfs, we have to provide a working env after installing on them :)
02:29 < rxr> i should have fixed the stone isntaller mod to only display what is in the kernel and toosl available
02:30 < rxr> fully modular kernel with initramfs should boot from any fs
02:30 < mnemoc> yeah
02:30  * rxr rebooting to test autoload=1 ...
02:42 < CIA-20> amery * r14161 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/dompatch-guilhem.patch: * updated kaffe/dompatch hotfix for a version which consume less resources
03:01 < CIA-20> rene * r14162 /trunk/target/install/ (build_initrd.sh init): 
03:01 < CIA-20> * added autoload code to the new install/init to automatically load
03:01 < CIA-20>  the installer from CD if possible
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03:22 < rxr> so - final minimal* sncing to gsmp
03:23 < rxr> should be in the incoming in 2-3 hours
03:23  * rxr into bed
03:23 < rxr> late enought ...
03:23 < rxr> cu all then - n8 all
03:24 < mnemoc> wait!
03:24 < mnemoc> rxr: ?
03:25 < mnemoc> :(
03:40 < mnemoc> rxr: i need your feedback for a hack like this to solve specific libtool issues on 2.1:
03:40 < mnemoc> +hook_add postmake 5 '[ "$libdir" != "$root/lib" ] || for x in libaal{,-minimal}; do \
03:40 < mnemoc> +       ln -fs /lib/$x.so $root/usr/lib/$x.so; done'
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08:49 < mipe> new record, it took 5 mins to connect freenode server.... i wonder whats wrong with my network conn
08:53 < mipe> from irc logs...
08:54 < mipe> mnemoc: reiserfs works fine on 2.1, used it on 2.1-minimal from t2 ftp and on my own build of 2.1 desktop target
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09:37 < misl> morning all
09:49 < Stelz> moin, misl
09:57 < misl> hi Stelz
10:22 < jsaw> HAPPY XMAS (and cu after it)
10:22 < misl> happy stuff to you too :)
10:22 < mipe> thanks, merry xmas to you too jsaw
10:22 < misl> and have fun jsaw
10:23 < misl> al others, have fun too
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12:18 < misl> hi *
12:18 < misl> ping mnemoc
12:42 < rxr> moin
12:43 < rxr> mnemoc: I rather would like to avoid such a libtool hackery
12:47 < LMJ> morning rxr
12:47 < LMJ> merry christmas to the whole chan ;)
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13:18 < misl> ping rxr
13:20 < rxr> poing
13:30 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/unstable/2.2.0-epsilon/
13:30 < rxr> ^- have fun
13:31 < CIA-20> rene * r14164 /tags/2.2.0-epsilon/: * tagged 2.2.0-epsilon
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13:33 < Stelz> gi :)
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14:01 < misl> :'( When will I be able to actually build trunk on noisy again?
14:20 < rxr> misl: what is the current error?
14:20 < rxr> I can take a look later todday
14:21 < misl> both minimal x86 and x86-64 fail to build. The first in glibc the other in perl.
14:23 < misl> is 'waiting for unfished jobs...' bad? I get it in glibc
14:25 < rxr> this is just a normal diagnostic of parallel builds
14:25 < rxr> the error message is somewhere above
14:25  * rxr shortly waaway
14:25 < rxr> [Ccu soon
14:25 < misl> cu 
14:34 < valentin> hi
14:35 < Stelz> hi, valentin 
14:36 < valentin> hi Stelz 
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14:45 < valentin> hehe: http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20051224.html <- sad but often true
15:05 < rxr> re
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15:22 < mipe> so me running newly released 2.2 release
15:22 < mipe> and working great!
15:23 < mipe> just need to build kde/e17
15:23 < rxr> misl: good to hear ,-)
15:23 < rxr> minimal64 ?
15:23 < mipe> yep
15:23 < rxr> ,-))
15:31 < CIA-20> rene * r14165 /branches/2.1/package/kde/kdemultimedia/x86-64-hotfix.patch: * hotfixed kdemultimedia for at least x86-64
15:31 < rxr> mnemoc: we could do 2.1.1 now ,--)
15:34 < mipe> well merry xmas everyone, i'm off for some family time :)
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15:50 < rxr> freshmeat text done
15:52 < sepp_> e17/e disabled valgrind support in cvs, should i ci this "solution" as patch?
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15:53 < valentin> hi rxr, sepp
15:53 < sepp> nice xmas * :)
15:53 < rxr> wwwell - what do you need explicit valgrind suppport for in an app ...
15:53 < rxr> hi sepp and valentin 
15:53 < sepp> hi rxr and valentin 
15:53 < sepp> well, not as user
15:54 < valentin> normal packages should be compiled with valgrind disabled
15:54 < sepp> i mean as user its quite useless
15:54 < valentin> yes, slows everything down and eats mem++
15:55 < valentin> and dumps load of uninformative messages to stderr
15:56 < sepp> hmm i have not seen any debug/valgrind output from e17, maybe its default off
15:56 < sepp> who knows
15:56 < valentin> well, didn't use vc for a long time, but maybe you have to invoke the program with an explicit #vc $cmd
15:57 < valentin> s/vc/valgrind
16:00 < CIA-20> sebastian * r14166 /trunk/package/e17/e/no-valgrind.patch: * disabled valgrind support
16:05 < mnemoc> rehi
16:05 < valentin> hi mnemoc 
16:05 < mnemoc> hi valentin 
16:05 < sepp> hi mnemoc 
16:05 < mnemoc> hi sepp 
16:05 < Stelz> hi mnemoc :)
16:05 < Stelz> hi sepp
16:05 < valentin> Stelz: is there snow in moscow ?
16:06 < Stelz> yeah
16:06 < valentin> all melted away here in berlin
16:06 < Stelz> a lot of snow :)
16:06 < mnemoc> rxr: i have troubles with reiser4progs and iptables on my reference
16:06 < sepp> hi SnowMan :)
16:06 < Stelz> )
16:07  * Stelz pokes CIA-20
16:07 < CIA-20> rene * r14167 /branches/2.1/target/bootdisk/build_stage2.sh: 
16:07 < CIA-20> * minimal merge from trunk: fixed build_stage2.sh small image
16:07 < CIA-20>  creation for lib64 architectures
16:07 < mnemoc> here i have snow-less winters :\
16:07 < Stelz> :)
16:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
16:07 < mnemoc> hi rxr!
16:07 < rxr> mnemoc: here we have no snow right now as well - maybe in two days ...
16:08 < rxr> but we had some snowy days alreaddy
16:08 < mnemoc> white-new-year :p
16:08 < rxr> mnemoc: so +1 for 2.1.1 tag from my side now
16:08 < rxr> 2.2.0-epsilon got out
16:09 < mnemoc> i need to fix reiser4progs (libtool issue) and iptables (dietlibc leaking in)
16:09 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/9-reiser4progs.err.txt
16:09 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-iptables.err.txt
16:11 < mnemoc> epsilon announcement is very nice :)
16:11  * rxr needs a spellchecking for the mails ...
16:11 < mnemoc> what "yuletide" means?
16:12 < rxr> chrisstmas time
16:12 < mnemoc> :)
16:12 < rxr> according to my dictionarz
16:12 < rxr> y
16:12 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuletide :)
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16:14 < rxr> ,-)
16:14 < rxr> also persist in some Scottish dialects.
16:14 < rxr> oops
16:14 < rxr> "Yule" and "Yuletide" are also archaic terms for Christmas, sometimes invoked in songs to provide atmosphere.
16:14 < rxr> ,-)
16:14 < mnemoc> wp rules :)
16:14 < rxr> yeah - mostly ...
16:15 < rxr> if noone was there seconds before deleting half of the article ,-)
16:17 < mnemoc> hehe
16:18 < mnemoc> but they have a good comunity fitering and restoring :)
16:18 < rxr> you do some xmas celebration today mnemoc ?
16:18 < mnemoc> yes, we will go where my grandparents to santiago tonight, and back home during the night
16:18 < mnemoc> italian-family-style
16:18 < rxr> nice
16:19 < mnemoc> around 200 people :p
16:19 < rxr> oh ,-)
16:19 < rxr> mnemoc: how did those regression causedd ?
16:20  * rxr needs to fix the timer irq routing - sucks that the notbook is running twice as fast on timing ops and thus keyrepeat ...
16:20 < mnemoc> reiser4progs needs the .so hack i showed you lastnight, iptables.... no idea
16:20 < rxr> hm
16:20 < rxr> here it built
16:20 < rxr> at least iptables
16:20 < rxr> for pentium-mmx destop
16:21 < rxr> reiesr4progs also
16:21 < rxr> hm
16:21 < mnemoc> stage 9
16:21 < rxr> hm
16:21 < rxr> "interesting"
16:21 < mnemoc> reiesr4progs has troubles with it's own .la
16:21 < mnemoc> so, the problem will be there on updates
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16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: should i log into your box and take a look ?
16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: should i log into your box and take a look ?
16:23 < rxr> or release 2.1.1 now before you leave and fix it in 2.1.2 ?
16:23 < rxr> DSL at my parents is more lagging than the one at my home in berlin ... - i fear ssh to .cl might be a bit annoying
16:24 < mnemoc> ok ok.... let me copy your template based xorg.conf to 2.1, and i'll tag ,-)
16:24 < mnemoc> it could be fixed during iso generation if needed
16:24 < rxr> ouhm
16:24 < mnemoc> without .init
16:24 < rxr> should I rebuild the xx86-64 desktop then  ?
16:25 < mnemoc> yes! :p
16:25 < rxr> ouhm
16:25 < mnemoc> koffice was updated yesterday
16:25 < rxr> my parents do not have a flatratte   ...
16:25 < mnemoc> back on berlin you upload it
16:25 < rxr> ok ok - this is enough - I boot with the apic irq disabled - this stray double chars really torture my nerves
16:26 < mnemoc> i need 2 days to build pmmx and 1 more to upload it
16:26 < rxr> mnemoc: well - it is already there - but a rebuild xorg / koffice will be 100MB++ most probably ...
16:26 < rxr> hm
16:26 < rxr> but then let's only announce as present on the t2 list and pr off-site when the ISOs are there
16:26 < mnemoc> ok
16:27 < rxr> since whithout iso people do not try and also are mostly too lazy to come back in some days ...
16:27 < rxr> I'll do the architecture/%/boot refactoring in trunk the next days then
16:27 < rxr> -rc of trunk  in january then
16:28 < mnemoc> ack
16:33 < rxr> on distrowatch rock is not in the statistic right now - and t2 in every time table !
16:34 < mnemoc> :D
16:34  * Baldzius clicks min 2x each day :)
16:35 < mnemoc> distrowatch.com/t2 as homepage? :p
16:36 < Baldzius> no, when i visit distrowatch i always click on t2 before leaving :)
16:36 < valentin> oh - the statistic is a click counter ?
16:36  * valentin clicking
16:37 < Baldzius> :)
16:38 < valentin> so, now preparing for xmas eve celebration
16:43 < mnemoc> oops... o forgot php install bug
16:43 < mnemoc> i*
16:43 < CIA-20> rene * r14168 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (5 files): * updated linux26 (2.6.14.2 -> 2.6.15-rc6)
16:43 < rxr> mnemoc: what is pending on that patch of mine?
16:44 < rxr> what was still wrong?
16:45 < CIA-20> amery * r14169 /branches/2.1/package/x11/xorg/ (xcfgt2.sh xorg-conf.in xorg.conf.template): 
16:45 < CIA-20> * merged xcfgt2 from trunk to 2.1's xorg package
16:45 < CIA-20> * improved xorg.conf to insert xorg.conf.example also when xorg.conf is empty
16:45 < mnemoc> the patch is there, but it's ignored by make install
16:45 < mnemoc> phpbuilddir is properly set
16:47 < rxr> hm
16:56 < mnemoc> uhm... i just noticed there is no 'log' user :p
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16:56 < mipe> there are some broken links at /usr/X11 (trunk)
16:56 < mnemoc> why do i have it on my installed machines?
16:59 < rxr> no idea
17:00 < mnemoc> aha, it comes from runit :p
17:01 < CIA-20> amery * r14170 /trunk/package/mail/qscanq/qscanq.desc: * made optional qscanq because it depends on optional packages
17:04 < CIA-20> amery * r14171 /branches/2.1/package/mail/qscanq/qscanq.desc: * merged 14170 from trunk: made optional qscanq because it depends on optional packages
17:13 < CIA-20> aldas * r14172 /trunk/package/develop/hdf5/hdf5.desc: * updated hdf5 (1.6.4 -> 1.6.5)
17:14 < CIA-20> aldas * r14173 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc: * updated octave (2.1.59 -> 2.1.72)
17:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: thanks for worring about the updates :)
17:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: are you using t2-updates?
17:15 < mipe> so its xproto thats creating some bad symlinks on X11 tree
17:16 < CIA-20> aldas * r14174 /trunk/package/scientific/octave-forge/octave-forge.desc: * updated octave-forge (2004.09.09 -> 2005.06.13)
17:17 < Baldzius> mnemoc:  :) , yes i am :)
17:17 < Baldzius> i like updating :)
17:19 < rxr> mnemoc: how was it suppost to apply two patches from linux-kernel ?
17:19 < rxr> some -rc patch with -mm on top ?
17:19 < rxr> fails due grab_lxextraversion ...
17:19 < rxr> was there some trick intended ... ?
17:21 < mnemoc> grab_lxextraversion keeps EXTRAVERSION clean
17:21 < mnemoc> but some patches expect stuff in there
17:22 < mnemoc> so i sed that hunk out into an /tmp/$$.patch, and var_append that one
17:24 < mnemoc> rxr: we need a second branch on fm
17:24 < mnemoc> brb
17:25 < rxr> ah - yes, that is a nice work around ...
17:25 < rxr> mnemoc: yep - cu - /we dinner
17:27 < CIA-20> aldas * r14175 /trunk/package/develop/pynumarray/ (compile-fix.patch pynumarray.desc): 
17:27 < CIA-20> * updated pynumarray (1.3.3 -> 1.5.0)
17:27 < CIA-20> * added compile-fix.patch to avoid lockup at build time
17:29 < CIA-20> aldas * r14176 /trunk/package/develop/pytables/pytables.desc: * updated pytables (1.1 -> 1.2.1)
17:39 < rxr> mnemoc: we could sed the patch to always patch the extraver based on an empty EXTRAVER
17:39 < rxr> but diner now
17:43 < misl> hi all
17:44 < misl> mnemoc: I have not been able to build kaffe and eclipse. 
17:44 < mnemoc> trunk?
17:44 < misl> I have not gotten that far.
17:44 < misl> yes trunk
17:44 < mnemoc> uhm
17:44 < mnemoc> what problem?
17:44 < mnemoc> x86_64?
17:44 < misl> my trunk stops in perl
17:45 < mnemoc> outch
17:45 < mnemoc> that is early
17:45 < misl> yepp :(
17:45 < misl> errors start with
17:46 < misl> ./config.sh: line 1019: /lib64: No such file or directory
17:46 < mnemoc> uhm
17:46 < misl> build root has a /lib64
17:46 < mnemoc> that has to be something line $FOO $libdir
17:46 < misl> but noisy has not
17:47 < mnemoc> mkdir it :)
17:47 < misl> doing a crossbuild did not help
17:47 < misl> I will try
17:47 < mnemoc> uhm
17:48 < misl> building now
17:48  * misl has his fingers crossed
17:49  * mnemoc hates hot days
17:49 < misl> mnemoc: come over, it is not that hot here :)
17:50 < mnemoc> send me the tickets! :)
17:50 < misl> hehe, maybe some day :)
17:51 < misl> build failed :(
17:51 < misl> ./config.sh: line 1019: /lib64: is a directory
17:51 < misl> I wonder what it expects?
17:51 < mnemoc> what's on that line?
17:52 < mnemoc> $FOO $libdir, where $FOO is undefined i guess
17:52 < mnemoc> or a missing \ on previous line
17:53 < misl> config_args='-des -Dcc=gcc -Darchname=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu -Dprefix=/usr -Dlibpth='/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64' -Dmyhostname=localhost -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/opt -Dd_dosuid -Ddynamic_ext=none -Dstatic_ext=none'
17:54 < mnemoc> where -Dlibpth comes from?
17:55 < misl> dunno
17:55 < misl> I just did a minimal x86-64
17:55 < mnemoc> it should use " instead of '
17:56 < mnemoc> trunk:HEAD ?
17:56 < misl> yes
17:57 < mnemoc> perl.conf
17:57 < mnemoc> replace ' with \"
17:57 < mnemoc> perl.conf:60
17:58 < misl> building again
17:58 < mnemoc> and slap rene ,-)
17:59 < misl> not while he is having dinner, he might choke :)
17:59 < mnemoc> *G*
18:00 < mnemoc> anyway, '"-foo=foo bar"' works better than '-foo="foo bar"'
18:00 < misl> failed again
18:00 < mnemoc> where?
18:01 < misl> gcc  -o miniperl \
18:01 < misl>     miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a
18:01 < misl> libperl.a(pp.o)(.text+0x25c0): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
18:01 < misl> list of undefined stuff continues
18:01 < mnemoc> can you check that libpth is properly defined?
18:01 < mnemoc> i.e. those three values
18:02 < mnemoc> and if it got borked use \"-Dlibpth=$libpth\"  instead of -Dlibpth=\"$libpth\"
18:02 < misl> I guess some quotes are missing
18:02 < misl> ..... -Dlibpth=/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64 -Dmyh.....
18:03 < mnemoc> try that change
18:03 < mnemoc> and if that doesn't work use \'
18:04 < mnemoc> _or_ \$libpth as the last try
18:04 < misl> I have dinner not, I will try later
18:04 < misl> bbl, cu
18:04 < mnemoc> cu
18:04 < misl> not = now :)
18:05 < mnemoc> i guess that
18:31 < rxr> re
18:31 < owl> hi rxr 
18:33 < rxr> mery christmas owl 
18:33 < misl> hi owl, rxr
18:33  * misl slaps rxr :)
18:33 < rxr> autsch
18:34 < misl> <mnemoc>	and slap rene ,-)
18:34 < misl> perl is broken
18:35 < rxr> built here
18:35 < rxr> though from time to time I had the diagnostic above as wel
18:35 < rxr> l
18:36 < mnemoc> config_args='-des -Dcc=gcc -Darchname=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu -Dprefix=/usr -Dlibpth='/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64' -Dmyhostname=localhost -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/opt -Dd_dosuid -Ddynamic_ext=none -Dstatic_ext=none'
18:36 < mnemoc> ^---- that quoting is broken, and comes from perl.conf ,-)
18:36 < mnemoc> happy xmas owlita!
18:37 < rxr> mnemoc: what about teaking the patch on the fly to strip a prerequesite from EXTRAVERSIONS automaticall ?
18:38 < mnemoc> ack
18:38 < owl> mery christmas, rxr and whole channel ;)
18:38 < rxr> apply_patchfiles needs tweaking then ...
18:38 < owl> to you too, mnemoc  ;)
18:38 < rxr> owl: you do some celebration / relaxing as well?
18:39 < mnemoc> s,^[-]EXTRAVERSION=.*,EXTRAVERSION=,   :D
18:39 < rxr> mnemoc: no - even more advanced
18:39 < owl> rxr: nah... but i am thinking about ordering the domain "anti-weihnacht.de" ;)
18:39 < owl> you?
18:39 < rxr> owl: hacking t2 as you see .-)
18:39 < mnemoc> rxr: true, you have to remove oldextra from newextra
18:39 < rxr> yep
18:39 < rxr> that is what I was going to write
18:39 < owl> rxr: so: no celebration. no senseless family-meetings? :)
18:39 < rxr> so we both ACK and I hack it and see if it works for my wip linux26mm package
18:40 < mnemoc> yeah ,-)
18:40 < mnemoc> owl: too early for family celebrations ,-)
18:43 < mnemoc> owl: and you? where? with who'
18:43 < mnemoc> ?
18:46 < owl> mnemoc: have to visit my grand-parents :((((( in about one hour. and then: just with my bf. but expect that i say "no" to celebrating
18:47 < mnemoc> dancing? something?
18:47 < mnemoc> drinking?
18:48 < mnemoc> i have to be with grandfather's family.... around 200 people for dinner, then 2:00h during night going back home to sleep
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18:51 < owl> nope. just sitting there, giving presents and talking
18:51 < owl> 200 people?! omfg!
18:51 < owl> i would die!
18:52 < mnemoc> big family :p
18:53 < mnemoc> but grandparents are getting old fast... so these meetings will end soon
18:53 < owl> yeah... probably :)
18:53 < mnemoc> :)
18:54 < owl> and i complain about 10 people or so ^^
18:54 < mnemoc> hehe
18:55 < mnemoc> italians still have 'pater-familia' concept, even on embassy we are _all_ on his folder
18:56 < mnemoc> 5 generations since 2 weeks ago
18:57 < CIA-20> amery * r14177 /tags/2.1.0/package/java/kaffe/kaffe.desc: * merged 14046 from trunk: disabled kaffe for x86-64 and powerpc64 architectures
18:59 < owl> O_O 
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19:02 < mnemoc> oops...
19:03 < CIA-20> amery * r14178 /tags/2.1.0/package/java/kaffe/kaffe.desc: * reverted 14177, wrong tree.
19:09 < CIA-20> amery * r14179 /branches/2.1/package/java/kaffe/kaffe.desc: * merged 14046 from trunk: disabled kaffe for x86-64 and powerpc64 architectures
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19:28 < mnemoc> misl: is 'Sinterklaas' used these days there? or a modern name?
19:28 < misl> :) Sinterklaas is celebrated december 5th
19:29 < mnemoc> :D
19:29 < misl> actually Sinterklaas = Saint Nicolas
19:29 < misl> = Santa Claus
19:30 < mnemoc> so that's the ethimology
19:31 < mnemoc> we call him 'viejo pascuero' ... 'old man of christmas'
19:32 < mnemoc> a very big missusage because 'pascua' is 'easter'... on april :p
19:32 < misl> hehe
19:32 < misl> Well i't all the same man
19:32 < misl> Nowadays his bones are in an italian city
19:32 < misl> Although we has originally buried somewhere in Turkey
19:33 < mnemoc> i read 'Sinterklaas' was part of a nordik myth of a man with rens and blah blah blah giving gifts and punishing
19:33 < mnemoc> i didn't notice Sinterklaas == Santa Claus
19:33 < Stelz> ?)
19:34 < mnemoc> \u0416?
19:34 < mnemoc> ...?
19:34 < Stelz> :)
19:34 < Stelz> just unicode
19:34 < Stelz> from RU
19:34 < mnemoc> i'm learning unicode finaly :D
19:34 < Stelz> :)))))
19:34 < misl> This explains a lot behind it.
19:35 < misl> http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html
19:35 < mnemoc> *click*
19:35 < sepp> i thought the red man is a walking cola bottle
19:37 < mnemoc> the fat red man, yes. coca cola
19:37 < mnemoc> the tradition is very old
19:38 < mnemoc> "zwarte piet" <--- we don't have him
19:40 < mnemoc> so 2.1.1 will be named 'black peter' :p
19:40 < misl> Actually coca cola the to blame for the popularity of Santa Claus
19:40 < misl> the = is
19:42 < sepp> and for shitty black liquid :)
19:42 < misl> noisy stopped and perl still borken :(
19:43 < Stelz> :mnemoc : the fat red man, yes. coca cola
19:43 < Stelz> lol
19:44 < Stelz> :D
19:44 < mnemoc> "Dating back to Norse mythology, Father Christmas has his roots in Paganism. Before Christianity came to British shores it was customary for an elder man from the community to dress in furs and visit each dwelling."
19:45 < mnemoc> he is the second part of the myth afaics
19:46 < mnemoc> but me wonders about the rens
19:47 < mnemoc> our however those animals are called in english
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19:48 < CIA-20> sebastian * r14180 /trunk/package/e17/enscribe/enscribe.desc: * X -> O, upstream disabled Esmart_Textarea api ...
19:48 < mnemoc> Reindeer
19:49 < mnemoc> wb nzg 
19:50 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Visit_from_St._Nicholas
19:52 < mnemoc> so saint nicholas + norse mythology -> dutch myths -> Clement Clarke Moore's Poem at 1823 + Coca-Cola = current red and fat santa claus
19:52 < CIA-20> aldas * r14181 /trunk/package/x11/xplanet/xplanet.desc: * updated xplanet (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0)
19:53 < mnemoc> Moore invented Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen pulling the airborne sleigh
19:53 < mnemoc> and poor Rudolph?
19:54 < mnemoc> aha! rudolph is donner' son :)
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19:58 < Stelz> hi, ojh :)
19:58 < ojh> Hi Stelz
20:14 < misl> :) T2 in on freshmeat
20:14 < misl> in = is
20:15 < ojh> Cool
20:15 < mnemoc> just but on 'default' branch :(
20:16 < mnemoc> so 2.1.1 will have to stablish a new 'branch' there
20:16 < misl> I am off now, so every one a merry X-mas and have fun whatever you do :)
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20:25 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to:  T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! - 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
20:26 < sepp> good that i have 2 monitors - i can see the complete topic :D
20:26 < mnemoc> :p
20:26 < mnemoc> i only see until 'greeting'
20:27 < CIA-20> amery * r14182 /tags/2.1.1/: * tagged 2.1.1
20:27 < sepp> :)
20:34 < CIA-20> amery * r14183 /tags/2.1.1/scripts/parse-config: * changed sdever to 2.1.1, 'black peter'
20:53 < mnemoc> woh... late, my wife will kill me. cu tomorrow and HAPPY^3 CHRISTMAS! :)
20:54 < Baldzius> merry christmas mnemoc :)
20:55 < CIA-20> aldas * r14184 /trunk/package/develop/numpy/ (lapack-config-fix.patch numpy.conf numpy.desc): 
20:55 < CIA-20> * updated numpy (23.7 -> 24.2)
20:55 < CIA-20> * removed lapack-config-fix.patch - obsolete
20:55 < CIA-20> * removed numpy.conf - it did nothing as had a bug, i couldn't
20:55 < CIA-20>  find who and for what needed tutorial but if you want that
20:55 < CIA-20>  just let me know :)
20:55 < Stelz> :)
20:55 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to:  T2 wish you a Merry Christmas! | 2.1.1 TAGGED! - 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
20:55 < Stelz> gigi
20:55 < Stelz> 2.1.1
20:57 < mnemoc> :)
20:57 < mnemoc> bye bye all.... have a nice xmas :D
20:57 < Baldzius> bye :)
20:59 < Stelz> bb, mnemoc 
21:05 < mnemoc> ok, now i go :p   bye! 
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22:09 < ojh> Ouch! Overuse of '*' '->' and '[]' makes one's brain hurt!
22:09 < ojh> (complex pointer operations in C)
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22:13 < CIA-20> aldas * r14185 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * updated netpbm (10.30 -> 10.31)
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22:25 < VEXation> blah
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22:29 < misl> hi all
22:29 < Stelz> hi, misl 
22:29 < ojh> misl: Hi
22:29 < misl> hi Stelz :)
22:29 < Stelz> :)
22:29 < misl> hi ojh
22:29 < ojh> :-)
22:31 < misl> How is X-mas eve in Moscow and on the east-coast :)
22:31  * Stelz is waiting for January 7..
22:31 < Stelz> x-mas day :)
22:32 < misl> X-mas in januari?
22:32 < Stelz> yeah
22:32 < Stelz> in Russia
22:32 < misl> why 07-01
22:33 < Stelz> historycally :)
22:33 < misl> Seems like you russians have mixed things up. X-mas is before new-year, not after :)
22:33 < Stelz> :)
22:33 < misl> just kiddin
22:35 < ojh> Question: anyone know how to inteprit cryptic GCC errors? What does "error: void value not ignored as it ought to be" mean?
22:36 < ojh> (Advanced pointer operations in C make my head hurt)
22:38 < misl> ojh: I am not sure but I interpret the error like
22:38 < misl> void function() { body };
22:38 < misl> something = function();
22:38 < sepp> void foo(); something void foo() { puts("blah");
22:38 < sepp> }
22:38 < sepp> int main() { int x = foo();
22:38 < sepp> }
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22:39 < ojh> misl: I'm not messing with any function pointers, I am using a complex web of offsets inside of a memory mapped file to manually manage data in memory/file.
22:40 < sepp> .oO(paste went somehow wrong)
22:41 < ojh> misl: Ahhh! I found the problem - to quote a reference: "You cannot dereference a void pointer."
22:41 < ojh> 	// Test it for Over Run
22:41 < ojh> 	if ((int)*m->fileptr[MD_FILE_COUNT_OFFSET] >= MD_METADATA_TAG_BLOCK_START)
22:41 < ojh> 	{
22:41 < ojh> 		// Overrunning the allocated space!!!
22:41 < ojh> 		return 2;
22:41 < ojh> 	}
22:43 < misl> Hmm, I need to update both sun and ibm java packages
22:43 < ojh> I have a set of arrays inside the mmapped file that contain indexes inside of other arrays. A bunch of constants are set for the verous allocated regions of the memorey space.
22:44 < ojh> As I said, working with raw pointers makes my head hurt! But its the only way to do what I have in mind . . .
22:44 < misl> ojh: sounds complex C or C++?
22:44 < ojh> C
22:45 < ojh> More portable then Assembly :-P
22:45 < misl> int is not that portable
22:46 < misl> length is different on 32 or 64 bits
22:46 < ojh> misl: Yes, I know. The code will need work to be both 32 & 64 bit clean.
22:47 < ojh> misl: I'll need to use #define's to be specific about the bit widths used.
22:48 < misl> ojh: Have fun and watch your headache
22:48 < misl> I gotta got.
22:48 < ojh> :-)
22:48 < misl> cu all, and have merry X-mas :_
22:48 < misl> :)
22:48 < misl> got = go :)
22:48 < misl> bye bye
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