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00:16 < rxr> n8 all
00:16 < MisterN> n8
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01:36 < CIA-20> aldas * r14215 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/zziplib.desc: * updated zziplib (0.13.44 -> 0.13.45)
01:38 < CIA-20> aldas * r14216 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/nvidia.desc: * updated nvidia (1.0-8174 -> 1.0-8178)
02:32 < nzg> moin
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03:57 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 wish you a Merry Christmas! | 2.1.1 TAGGED! - 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
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10:13 < karasz> rise n shine...
10:14 < karasz> moin everyone
10:15 < karasz> rxr, gamma is the way?
10:15 < karasz> ooops, epsilon...
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10:16 < karasz> greetings minto
10:17 < misl> morning all
10:17 < misl> hi Karasz
10:17 < karasz> how are you minto?
10:18 < karasz> 2.1.1 tagged, 2.2.0-epsilon released.... busy Christmas if i may say so...
10:19 < misl> Karasz: I am fine (recovering from a fly), how about you?
10:20 < misl> hehe, you should have seen rxr yesterday. Seen like he has somekind of fever too.
10:20 < karasz> :)
10:21 < karasz> he said smthing about testing, but i do not know what i should dld...
10:22 < karasz> i guess i will 2.2.0-epsilon...
10:22 < misl> :)
10:22 < misl> rxr: are you around?
10:23 < misl> karasz: are you skilled in bash?
10:25 < karasz> i would not say that out loud..
10:25 < karasz> why?
10:25 < misl> I have a problem with getting perl to build
10:25 < karasz> btw who is Yuletide?
10:26 < karasz> i am not promising anything but post a pastebin ;)
10:26 < misl> Yuletide? dunno
10:26 < karasz> 2.2.0 codename
10:27 < karasz> but maybe i misspelled it, sorry
10:27 < misl> Yule? doesn't that have something to do with X-mas?
10:27 < mipe> i think it had something to do with Santa Claus
10:27 < karasz> ?
10:28 < mipe> Yuletide
10:28 < karasz> german?
10:28 < mipe> greek perhaps
10:28 < misl> maybe chinees to me for sure :)
10:28 < karasz> nope
10:29 < karasz> yule is the winter solstice celebration of german pagans ;)
10:30 < karasz> quite enlightening wikipedia page..
10:31 < karasz> so Yuletide actualy means `December the 25`
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11:31 < sepp> moin 
11:32 < CIA-20> sebastian * r14217 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/loop-aes_26.diff: * adopted loop-aes for new kernel
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11:46 < nzg> moin
11:46 < sepp> hi nzg 
11:49 < karasz> re moin all
11:49 < nzg> moin sepp, karasz 
11:49 < karasz> rebooting in some minutes with epsilon...
11:50 < sepp> hi karasz 
11:50 < karasz> :(
11:50 < karasz> run out of cd's....
11:50 < karasz> off to buy some
11:51 < karasz> cu guys..
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11:56 < CIA-20> msluis * r14218 /trunk/package/java/jboss-as/jboss-as.desc: * updated jboss-as (4.0.1sp1 -> 4.0.3SP1)
12:06 < karasz> re hi
12:10 < karasz> rxr around?
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12:13 < karasz> :(
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12:23 < karasz> hmm any problems with onboard ATI 7000?
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12:29 < karasz> libice fails due not founding xproto :(
12:30 < karasz> so does imake
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12:34 < Baldzius> hi karasz
12:34 < karasz> hello Baldzius 
12:34 < Baldzius> hm using head:trunk?
12:34 < karasz> nope
12:34 < Baldzius> 've tried that , no problem here
12:34 < karasz> installed 2.2.0 epsilon
12:35 < karasz> and then svn .../tags/2.2.0-epsilon
12:35 < Baldzius> i would use trunk :)
12:36 < karasz> also i am emerging not building...
12:36 < Baldzius> i see :)
12:38 < karasz> using 2.2.0-epsilon x86-64 minimal...
12:42 < karasz> hmm ML say that xproto is fixed, but after 2.2.0 epsilon release
12:45 < Baldzius> g* i forgot to say that to you :)
12:50 < karasz> manual diff and now it is workin' :)
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12:54 < karasz> hmmm now imake...
12:54 < karasz> no error but build failed? o_O
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12:56 < rxr> moin
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12:57 < karasz> hello rxr
12:58 < karasz> rxr if you have the time and you want ... http://karasz.pastebin.ca/34905
12:59 < rxr> this is already solved with the removal of one of the packages
12:59 < rxr> svn up
12:59 < karasz> wait a little
13:00 < karasz> i have installed 2.20.-epsilon
13:00 < rxr> I fixed this yesterday
13:00 < karasz> svn co .../tags/epsilon
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13:00 < karasz> tickered xproto to build
13:00 < rxr> I fixed xproto as well
13:00 < rxr> karasz: hehe - ok
13:00 < karasz> i know
13:01 < rxr> well - just rmeove the xmkmf package
13:01 < karasz> i made a manula diff to 2.2.0... :)
13:01 < karasz> remove xmkmf?
13:01 < rxr> you can even: svn diff http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/{trunk,tags/2.2.0-epsilon}
13:01 < rxr> karasz: the error you pasted is shared files
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13:02 < rxr> either ignore it or remove the xmkmf package
13:02 < rxr> as already done in trunk
13:02 < karasz> so remove xmkmf and emerge imake?
13:02 < rxr> yep
13:02 < karasz> ok
13:02 < rxr> you have already installed both
13:02 < karasz> the curly brackets are ok in there?
13:03 < rxr> so mine -r xmkmf will remove files of imake - you most probably have to force it's rebuild
13:03 < rxr> karasz: yes, the curly brackets expand by the shell
13:05 < karasz> for X i need imake right?
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13:10 < karasz> imake built xmkmf removed
13:10 < karasz> good
13:10 < karasz> so i want desktop, and i understand emerge is not the way do i have to make a build?
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13:18 < karasz> rxr is entirely wrong to emerge desktop?
13:20 < rxr> desktop ?
13:21 < karasz> i ahve a minimal x86-64 installed
13:21 < rxr> it is perfectly fine to Emerge half of your system - or update via emerge
13:21 < karasz> ok
13:21 < rxr> just that trunk had this two unpolished xorg edges ...
13:21  * rxr lunch
13:22 < karasz> it is enouygh to emerge an app which needs desktop?
13:22 < karasz> like xmms for example?
13:39 < owl> moin
13:48 < karasz> hello owlita
13:49 < owl> hi karasz ;)
13:50 < karasz> how was/is Christmas?
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13:56 < madtux> hi
13:57 < misl> hey madtux :)
13:57 < misl> oh, hi owl :)
13:57 < madtux> Minto :), how nice to see you. how is everything?
13:58 < misl> Recovering from a flu, but otherwise everything is okay :)
13:59 < madtux> great to hear.
14:02 < karasz> no xcursor in 2.2.0 epsilon?
14:04 < karasz> ...
14:04 < karasz> there is no x11-modular directory in 2.2.0
14:09 < rxr> karasz: it is xorg/
14:09 < karasz> hmm
14:09 < karasz> i cannot find xrender 
14:10 < karasz> nor xcursor there
14:10 < rxr> ?
14:11 < karasz> libxcursor faild due to not founding xcursor
14:11 < karasz> emerge xcursor say there is no package xcursor...
14:12 < karasz> i even looked on web svn and cannot find it there either
14:13 < karasz> there are more packages in 2.1.1 x11-modular that i cannot find in 2.2.0
14:22 < karasz> so rxr?
14:22 < misl> ping rxr
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14:26 < misl> hi ient :)
14:26 < ient> hi everyone
14:28 < misl> rxr: perl still fails on noisy, I messed around with quotes, but have not manages to get it working.
14:29 < rxr> misl: the quoting looks right - builds for me
14:29 < rxr> I log into noisy and take a look
14:29 < rxr> in 5 minutes or si
14:29 < misl> thanks
14:32 < karasz> there is smth wrong here with that /xorg directory
14:32 < karasz> no x11 package either there :(
14:33 < rxr> no x11 ?
14:33 < rxr> what are you looking for ?
14:33 < rxr> the server ?
14:33 < misl> confopt evaluates into:
14:33 < rxr> xorg-server
14:33 < misl>  -des -Dcc=gcc -Darchname=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu -Dprefix=/usr '-Dlibpth='\''/usr/local/lib64' /lib64 '/usr/lib64'\''' -Dmyhostname=localhost -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/opt -Dd_dosuid -Ddynamic_ext=none -Dstatic_ext=none
14:33 < misl> notice libpth 
14:34 < rxr> well, ...
14:34 < karasz> no rxr there is a package named x11
14:34 < rxr> why should there?
14:34 < karasz> and that is not the server
14:35 < rxr> misl: no idea if it should look look like that
14:35 < karasz> anyway as i told you there are fewer package is xorg than in x11-modular
14:35 < rxr> xorg is just svn mv x11-modular xorg - if there are less than it is because they are obsolete or renamed
14:35 < rxr> xorg/ builds fine
14:37 < karasz> x11 is actualy xlib
14:37 < karasz> i guess i am again half trunk half 2.2.0
14:38 < karasz> i made svn diff http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/{trunk,tags/2.2.0-epsilon}
14:38 < misl> rxr: if it looks like this I get :
14:38 < misl> ./config.sh: line 1019: /lib64: is a directory
14:38 < karasz> over 2.2.0 source
14:38 < rxr> misl: maybe update the system bash -
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14:40 < misl> rxr: Should I Emerge with deps=none? 
14:41 < rxr> misl: yep
14:41 < rxr> misl: what is installed right now?
14:41 < rxr> 2.95 or 3.0 ?
14:41 < misl> bash 3.0
14:43 < misl> bash got updated, now building perl again
14:43 < CIA-20> rene * r14219 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg.conf.example: 
14:43 < CIA-20> * fixed xorg-server/xorg.conf.example to use xorg instead of xfree86
14:43 < CIA-20>  in the xkb config section
14:44 < karasz> could it be that because i made my config prior to svn diff?
14:45 < rxr> karasz: yep - ./scripts/Config -oldconfig ,-)
14:45 < karasz> ok
14:46 < misl> rxr: results are exactly the same.
14:47 < karasz> i have to -force build libxrender ...
14:59 < karasz> glitz failed
14:59 < karasz> do i need glitz?
15:01 < rxr> not really
15:01 < rxr> karasz: why don't you use turnk?
15:01 < rxr> it has already some edges smoothed
15:01 < rxr> misl: hm ok
15:02 < karasz> now i issued an emerge xorg-server
15:02 < karasz> if it fails i will svn co trunk
15:02 < rxr> misl: if I should take a look you need to insert a new ssh key since my box with the private part for you box is not powered up
15:02 < misl> ack
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15:13 < karasz> svn co trunk
15:14 < rxr> karasz: ouhm
15:14 < rxr> you do not need a new checkuot
15:14 < rxr> svn switch http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk
15:14 < karasz> ?
15:14 < rxr> this will mostly only grab the differences
15:14 < karasz> i didn't have trunk till now
15:14 < rxr> and thus a lot less bits
15:14 < karasz> ahm
15:14 < karasz> allready done thou
15:15 < karasz> i will erase 2.2.0 source tree
15:16 < rxr> ah - you wanted to keep 2.2.0-epsilon ?
15:17 < karasz> nope
15:17 < karasz> i removed it now
15:20 < mnemoc> moin!
15:20 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to:  T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
15:20 < karasz> moin mnemoc 
15:21 < karasz> no more xmas, huh?
15:21 < mnemoc> rxr: i had apply_patchfiles filters on my todo :) thanks!
15:22 < misl> hi mnemoc
15:23 < mnemoc> hi misl 
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15:24 < mipe> theres a bug in mkinitrd(trunk), doesnt create /tmp/<tmpdir>/$moddir
15:24 < mipe> locally fixed, just need testing
15:24 < rxr> hm - please paste the diff here before you commit
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15:27 < misl> mnemoc: perl still fails :(  I tried all kind of things, but I guess I am not a bash script wizard.
15:28 < mnemoc> \\\'-Dfoo=$thing\\\'
15:28 < mnemoc> my last idea
15:29 < mnemoc> what bash do you have there?
15:29 < misl> just updated to 3.1
15:29 < misl> it was 3.0 before
15:30 < mipe> rxr:i'm on console, you see the patch at http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/sysfiles.patch
15:30 < mnemoc> that shouldn't be a problem..
15:31 < mnemoc> misl: noisy?
15:31 < mnemoc> mipe: $CWD?
15:32 < karasz> cu in a while
15:32 < misl> mnemoc: yes,  noisy
15:32 < mipe> ?
15:32 < mnemoc> directory? config?
15:32 < mipe> thats from svn diff in package/base/sysfiles
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15:33 < mipe> trunk
15:33 < mnemoc> pwd
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15:33 < Stelz> ????? ??? ?)
15:33 < Stelz> oops
15:33 < Stelz> )
15:33 < Stelz> hello all :)
15:33 < misl> hi Stelz
15:34 < mnemoc> misl: are you using /mnt/space/cron.reboot.t2 to start your box or a different script?
15:34 < Stelz> hi, mnemoc ;)
15:34 < mnemoc> hi Stelz 
15:35 < misl> mnemoc: yepp, that script gets called during reboot.
15:35 < mnemoc> weird
15:36 < mnemoc> i don't get the expected result when the machine boots up
15:36 < mnemoc> but works if i call that line by hand
15:36 < mnemoc> misl: what dir and config?
15:36 < misl> hmm, strange. 
15:36 < mnemoc> misl: i'll try to fix it
15:37 < madtux> ...TRY... ?
15:37 < misl>  /mnt/space/t2/trunk
15:37 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
15:37 < madtux> hello.
15:37 < misl> config =  min64
15:37 < mnemoc> madtux: fix != hack
15:38 < mnemoc> misl: close your vim please :p
15:38 < misl> done :D
15:39 < madtux> mnemoc, cheap excuses thats all.
15:40 < mnemoc> :)
15:43 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
15:44 < mnemoc> moin rxr
15:46 < rxr> mipe: the directory should be crated as part of mkdir -p in the for modules loop
15:46 < rxr> mnemoc: this filter might simplify your vserver code
15:47 < rxr> works for linux26mm
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15:52 < VX> blah..
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15:53 < mipe> rxr: what do you mean? it should as of now, or change it to create it in for modules loop?
15:54 < mipe> rxr: i got the error during linux26 build on calling mkinitrd, modules couldnt be copied to that dir
15:54 < mnemoc> ====[hook_eval:105 (last $?=0)> sh Configure -des -Dcc=gcc -Darchname=x86_64-t2-linux-gnu -Dprefix=/usr '-Dlibpth=/usr/local/lib64 /lib64 /usr/lib64' -Dmyhostname=localhost -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Dvendorprefix=/opt -Dd_dosuid -Ddynamic_ext=none -Dstatic_ext=none
15:54 < mnemoc> misl: but perl itself fails now :(
16:00 < misl> mnemoc: perl build is 64 bits
16:00 < misl> noisy is still 32
16:00 < mnemoc> uhm
16:01 < misl> when minimal completes we can test :)
16:02 < misl> mnemoc: did you start min64 build?
16:02 < mnemoc> yes
16:02 < mnemoc> i'll try one on 2.1
16:03 < misl> then I will start min64 build
16:04 < misl> mnemoc: is it correct that min64 rebuilds perl?
16:04 < mnemoc> that should be a crosscompiled perl
16:05 < mnemoc> -Dcc=gcc ?
16:05 < mnemoc> that may be a problem...
16:05 < misl> uhhm?
16:06 < mnemoc> i just did an small change
16:08 < mnemoc> min64 started
16:08 < mnemoc> outch
16:08 < misl> outch what?
16:09 < mnemoc> segfault using $CC instead of gcc
16:11 < misl> mnemoc: I started a second build 'nocross64'
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16:45 < rxr> re
16:45 < Stelz> hi rxr 
16:48 < CIA-20> rene * r14220 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kde-conf.in: 
16:48 < CIA-20> * added --enable-libsuffix=64 for lib64 builds for kde based packages
16:48 < CIA-20>  (fixes run-time for those architectures, no lib64 -> lib symlink
16:48 < CIA-20>  needed anymore)
16:48 < rxr> mipe: -^
16:56 < mipe> rxr:good :)
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16:58 < CIA-20> rene * r14221 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/mesa.conf: * fixed compat symlinking for mesa, libGL*
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17:17 < karasz> re
17:17 < karasz> xorg-server built ok
17:29 < rxr> snow here as well
17:29 < rxr> but not cold enough to accumulate on the ground
17:33 < mipe> rxr:does bdb33 build on you? i get wierd configure error on creating libtool
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17:35 < rxr> mipe: hm
17:35 < rxr> jups same here
17:36 < mipe> and wierd thing is, configure isnt patched by us... atleast not that i see
17:36 < CIA-20> rene * r14222 /trunk/ (15 files in 8 dirs): * moved libtool updating to a LIBTOOL-QUIRK flag
17:39 < mnemoc> .oO( rxr finished another entry from my TODO )o
17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: now I introduce AUTOMAKE-QUIRK
17:42 < rxr> and yes, these days my TODO shrinked from 4 to 3.9MB ...
17:43 < mnemoc> AUTOMAKE-QUIRK? what is that?
17:44 < rxr> right now I find and grep for config.{sub.guess} for update due x86_64, powrpc64 or sparcv9* to update them
17:44 < rxr> I would like to save those CPU cycles and mark outdated, crap packages explicitly
17:45 < mnemoc> ack
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17:47 < rxr> this libtool and auto* plague is rather annoying
17:48 < mnemoc> yep
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17:55 < CIA-20> aldas * r14223 /trunk/package/base/pmount/pmount.desc: * updated pmount (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7)
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17:59 < karasz> `The required package libxfce4util-1.0 was not found`
17:59 < karasz> i made a -force on thst ^^
18:00 < CIA-20> aldas * r14224 /trunk/package/network/pound/pound.desc: * updated pound (1.9.4 -> 1.9.5)
18:00 < mnemoc> karasz: emerge in order ,-)
18:01 < Baldzius> karasz: X xfce4/*
18:01 < karasz> mnemoc, i emerged kibxfce4util with force
18:01 < karasz> built ok
18:02 < karasz> libxfce4mcs complains about not funding it...
18:03 < rxr> karasz: when you emerge packages make sure they are enabled
18:04 < rxr> otherwise e.g. xfce might install into undefined pathes ...
18:04 < karasz> ok
18:04 < karasz> i will make a X xfce4/*
18:04 < karasz> in my config
18:04 < karasz> that is ok?
18:04 < Baldzius> yes
18:04 < Baldzius> works for me
18:06 < CIA-20> rene * r14225 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
18:06 < CIA-20> * changed config.{sub,guess} update to not search but use an
18:06 < CIA-20>  explicit AUTOMAKE-QUIRK flag, so far only mktemp is marked, others
18:06 < CIA-20>  will follow as-needed
18:06 < karasz> still have some probs with imake
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18:18 < misl> mnemoc: now I understand your segfault. nocross64 has it too.
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18:38 < CIA-20> aldas * r14226 /trunk/package/emulators/hercules/hercules.desc: * updated hercules (3.02 -> 3.03)
18:38 < mnemoc> misl: :(
18:41 < karasz> now i have a path problem
18:41 < mnemoc> ?
18:41 < karasz> x binaries are in /usr/X11R7/bin
18:41 < karasz> but stone cannot find them...
18:41 < rxr> stone 
18:41 < rxr> ? even
18:42 < karasz> i said stone, but that is irelevant
18:42 < karasz> because even command line completion does not work
18:42 < karasz> and PATH does not contain /usr/X11/bin/
18:42 < mnemoc> .oO
18:43 < rxr> . /etc/profile
18:43 < rxr> or relogin
18:43 < rxr> up 5 days,  8:07,  7 users,  load average: 5.69, 5.48, 4.84
18:43 < rxr> `- dual core ppc64 ...
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18:47 < mnemoc> woh
18:47 < Baldzius> karasz: if you still have problems with imake make sure you dont have xmkmf installed
18:47 < mnemoc> poor machine
18:48 < rxr> mnemoc: building minimal and minimal64 for ppc with parallel build
18:48 < rxr> 66.875
18:48 < rxr> 69.562
18:49 < rxr> degree C of the CPUs ...
18:49 < mnemoc> :)
18:49 < rxr> GNU GRUB 1.92 (Development)
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18:49 < rxr> Changes: This release adds support for the GPT and Linux/ADFS partition table formats, a new command "play" to play an audio file on a PC, support for BASH-like scripting, and support for Apple HFS+ filesystems.
18:49 < rxr> ^- grub can now play audio files ???
18:49 < rxr> what the heck ?
18:50 < karasz> :D
18:50 < MisterN> hi
18:50 < karasz> does it make coffee too?
18:50 < rxr> most probably ...
18:51  * mnemoc kiss his lilo
18:52  * rxr same for yaboot
18:54  * MisterN has this "it all must work it all must be simple" feeling again
18:57 < rxr> yeah
18:57 < rxr> most grub2 stuff is cool, like multi platform, sparc and powerpc support
18:57 < karasz> hmmm
18:57 < rxr> but playing sounds just stinks
18:57 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/34919
18:58 < karasz> ATI 7000 onboard
18:58 < MisterN> it is certainly possible to fork the grub code base.
18:59 < MisterN> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R7/share/X11/rgb'
18:59 < MisterN> maybe that's the cause
19:00 < rxr> karasz: Emerge xf86-video-ati
19:00 < karasz> emerging
19:01 < rxr> xf86-input-vmouse and xf86-input-keyboard are helpful as well
19:01 < rxr> also all xkb* and the rgb package
19:02 < CIA-20> rene * r14227 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4)
19:04 < CIA-20> rene * r14228 /trunk/package/develop/libsigc++/libsigc++.desc: * updated libsigc++ (2.0.16 -> 2.0.17)
19:07 < CIA-20> rene * r14229 /trunk/package/base/libtool/libtool.desc: * updated libtool (1.5.20 -> 1.5.22)
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19:21 < karasz> xf86-video-ati provides what module?
19:21 < rxr> ati and radeon
19:22 < karasz> which should i use for ati7000?
19:22 < karasz> .../drivers/video/ary/*fb.ko
19:23 < karasz> s/ary/aty
19:23 < karasz> why is aty with an y?
19:23 < rxr> just ati
19:23 < rxr> huh?
19:23 < rxr> no kernel moduole
19:23 < rxr> only ati in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
19:25 < mnemoc> kernel module != xorg driver :p
19:25 < Stelz> "_"
19:25 < Baldzius> rxr: libtool fails, it compiles by removing .conf
19:25 < rxr> oehm
19:25 < mnemoc> outch
19:31 < mnemoc> To follow the build:
19:31 < mnemoc> look at the build log,
19:31 < mnemoc> follow the trace,
19:32 < mnemoc> walk with the failing part,
19:32 < mnemoc> see the bug,
19:32 < mnemoc> fix the bug,
19:33 < mnemoc> try a fresh build.
19:33 < mnemoc> *not just shoot .conf*
19:35 < rxr> mnemoc: the .conf is hotfix
19:35 < rxr> I think it can safely be removed
19:35  * rxr testbuilding
19:35 < Baldzius> :))
19:35 < mnemoc> :)
19:35 < Baldzius> i have here libtool 1.52 for several days
19:35 < Baldzius> without .conf :)
19:36 < Baldzius> compiled a lot of other packages
19:36 < mnemoc> if, after becoming one with the package, you realize .conf is not longer necesary, you can remove the unneeded part :)
19:36 < Baldzius> had no problems
19:36 < CIA-20> rene * r14230 /trunk/package/base/libtool/libtool.conf: * removed hotfix from libtool
19:37  * mnemoc just writting a draft of the zen of package fixing :p
19:37 < Baldzius> :))))
19:38 < Baldzius> i just wasn't sure it is a good solution
19:39 < mnemoc> :)
19:39 < mnemoc> master rene approved your solution :)
19:39 < Baldzius> :)
19:47 < karasz> hmm slow but steady
20:03 < rxr> hm
20:03 < rxr> on powerpc64 dietlibc binaries segfault at the end
20:03 < rxr> past the main function
20:03 < rxr> but not when run in gdb or strace - sigh
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20:06 < rxr> Core was generated by `./a.out '.
20:06 < rxr> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
20:06 < rxr> #0  0x7c290b78782106e4 in ?? ()
20:06 < rxr> (gdb) bt
20:06 < rxr> #0  0x7c290b78782106e4 in ?? ()
20:06 < rxr> #1  0x00000000100003c8 in .exit ()
20:06 < rxr> #2  0x0000000010000190 in ._start ()
20:06 < rxr> hm
20:09 < rxr> 0x00000000100003c4 <.exit+132>: bctrl
20:09 < rxr> 0x00000000100003c8 <.exit+136>: ld      r2,40(r1)
20:09 < rxr> 0x00000000100003cc <.exit+140>: addi    r0,r30,1
20:09 < mnemoc> o.o
20:10 < mnemoc> it segfaults there?
20:12 < rxr> according to gdb ...
20:15 < rxr> it is due to our WANT_DYNAMIC
20:15 < rxr> without DYNAMIC in dietlibc it does pass
20:15  * rxr investigating
20:15 < rxr> btw. WANT_DYNAMIC has nothign todo with dynamic libraries ...
20:16 < mnemoc> dynamic allocation?
20:17 < mnemoc> like pie?
20:31 < rxr> no - just the some aux at exit stuff
20:31 < rxr> I need that for embedded C++
20:31 < mnemoc> o.o
20:31 < mnemoc> :)
20:32 < rxr>  /* make the startcode, etc. dynamic aware ({con,de}structors) */
20:32 < mnemoc> aha
20:35 < rxr> thiink it crashes here
20:35 < rxr> 0x0000000010000228 <_dyn_start+60>:     beq-    cr7,0x10000238 <_dyn_start+76>
20:43 < karasz>  :(
20:43 < karasz> i was almost there
20:43 < karasz> even saw a glimpse of the hour-mouse-cursor
20:43 < karasz> then screen turns black
20:44 < karasz> and no way to get back anything except reboot
20:44 < karasz> only ssh login works
20:44 < karasz> and there is a X eating 99.99% of cpu
20:54 < karasz> the only error i see is one related to fonts...
20:56 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: are you using vserver on t2 trunk?
20:57 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: do you want it to stay at devel (2.1.x) branch, or to stable (2.0.1) ?
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21:12 < rxr> I hate when code runs fien in gd
21:12 < rxr> b
21:12 < karasz> i am ideea-less now
21:12 < mnemoc> symbols leaking from gdb to program?
21:14 < karasz> got to drink a coffee be back in 30 mins to struggle on....
21:21 < rxr> hm
21:21 < rxr> atexit counter gets messed up I thnk
21:22 < LMJ> Good evening the Chan
21:22 < LMJ> Merry Christmas too
21:27 < rxr> merry christmas LMJ 
21:31 < LMJ> how are you rxr
21:32 < rxr> hunting dietlibc segfault on powerpc64
21:39 < LMJ> hehe, good luck dude ;)
21:39 < LMJ> how was christmas ?
21:43 < rxr> christmas over here is usually only a tiny family meeting
21:44 < LMJ> pretty the same thing here
21:51 < CIA-20> rene * r14231 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ppc-static-ctor-dtor.patch: 
21:51 < CIA-20> * fixed dietlibc seg-fault with WANT_DYNAMIC on ppc64 in the same way
21:51 < CIA-20>  we work around a inf. loop on ppc already: zero the dl_init argument
21:51 < mnemoc> o.o
21:51 < LMJ> you already told me that, but could help me again, i can't use any USB devices, missing something, what is it exactly ?
21:51 < rxr> LMJ: with trunk / livecd or so ?
21:52 < LMJ> my own t2 from 2.1 branche
21:52 < rxr> if you want /etc/fstab update most probably hald is not properly notified properly
21:52 < rxr> or hald not running at all
21:53 < karasz> I  am back
21:54 < karasz> dlopen: /usr/X11R7/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.so: undefined symbol: ATIMemoryTypeNames_88800CX
21:55 < rxr> hm
21:55 < rxr> the misc driver should not be used for your X* card anyway
21:55 < rxr> is it that new not beeing in the xorg driver ?
21:56 < karasz> i made an automated xorgconfig from stone
21:56 < LMJ> no rxr, just i would like to mount as usually "mount /dev/scsi/....  /mnt/usb"   but i can't see any USB devices
21:56 < karasz> the card is ATI7000
21:56 < rxr> .oO
21:56 < rxr> I fear there is no X drive for those beasts yet
21:58 < rxr> so
21:58 < karasz> it is not a beast, it is an onboard
21:58 < rxr> karasz: if you do nto need 2d and video performance the vesa driver should do ..
21:58 < karasz> sad is that i do not have an agp port on that to tos a card in...
21:59 < karasz> so vesa in xorg.conf?
21:59 < rxr> yep
22:00 < rxr> and emerge xf86-video-vesa
22:00 < rxr> if you need decent 3d and video performance you need the binary only ati driver
22:01 < karasz> xorg.conf say:
22:01 < karasz> Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
22:02 < karasz> is that different from ATI7000?
22:02 < rxr> hm
22:02 < rxr> what does lspci say ?
22:02 < karasz> `04:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]`
22:03 < rxr> karasz: 7000 is very old - do you have a new or old computer in front of you ?
22:04 < karasz> ibm x206 brand new
22:04 < rxr> x206 is what ?
22:04 < rxr> server thing or so with low-end graphic ?
22:04 < rxr> Error logs from minimal-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc-powerpc-750-generic:
22:04 < rxr> [5] base/linux26
22:04 < rxr> 193 builds total, 143 completed fine, 1 with errors.
22:04 < karasz> small server from eserver xSeries
22:05 < rxr> Error logs from minimal64-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc64-G5-generic:
22:05 < rxr> [5] base/linux26
22:05 < rxr> 195 builds total, 126 completed fine, 1 with errors.
22:05 < mnemoc> rxr: third party module?
22:05 < rxr> maybe the powerpc and powerpc64 unification
22:05 < rxr> will look later
22:05 < karasz> yes is a low end graphics server thing
22:06 < rxr> hm - then the radeon driver should be able to drive
22:06 < rxr> it
22:06 < rxr> try radeon instead of ati - strange that you get this unresolved symbol
22:06 < mnemoc> rxr: are you building ISOs for 2.1.1 tag?
22:07 < karasz> emerge xf86-video-radeon?
22:07 < rxr> nope
22:07 < rxr> ati has it
22:07 < karasz> so radeon in xorg.conf?
22:07 < rxr> yep
22:07 < rxr> mnemoc: I'l built 2.1 ISOs next
22:08 < karasz> how cvan i test it without rebooting?
22:08 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks :)
22:11 < rxr> karasz: if your graphic is grabbelled now, you mostly need reoot
22:11 < rxr> reboot
22:14 < karasz> it is strange
22:14 < karasz> it is not grabbelled
22:14 < karasz> nothing on the screen even the monitor led goes out
22:19 < karasz> maybe my freqs are out of range
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22:23 < karasz> xorgcfg -> raster screen +X cursor
22:24 < karasz> is that ok?
22:32 < karasz> how to install all the fonts?
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22:46 < mnemoc> karasz: xorgcfg... uhm... i guess it have never worked for me
22:46 < mnemoc> karasz: for fonts re-run /etc/postinstall scripts
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22:56 < karasz> No matching visual for __GLcontextMode with visual class =1 (32774), nplanes =16
23:06 < karasz> if not xorgcfg then what do you use mnemoc ?
23:06 < mnemoc> xorg.conf.example :)
23:06 < karasz> thought so
23:06 < mnemoc> but 2.1.1 includes xorg.conf.template from t2 trunk
23:15 < rxr> Error logs from minimal-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc-powerpc-750-generic:
23:15 < rxr> [5] base/linux26                        [5] base/cdrtools
23:15 < rxr> 193 builds total, 191 completed fine, 2 with errors.
23:15 < mnemoc> not too bad :)
23:16 < rxr> soon 0
23:28 < karasz> how can i nuke X?
23:28 < karasz> it is resiliant to kill PID
23:28 < mnemoc> killall -9 
23:28 < karasz> killall -9 PID?
23:29 < mnemoc> killall works by name
23:29 < mnemoc> kill -9 PID
23:29 < karasz> PID: no process kiled :(
23:30 < mnemoc> using PID _number_ i hope
23:35 < LMJ> evening mnemoc 
23:35 < Stelz> 'night all ;)
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23:35  * Stelz is away: sleep..
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23:45 < karasz> re
23:45 < LMJ> Do you know a font manager ? to active/unactive a couple of fonts ?
23:46 < karasz> i do not have a /dev/mouse
23:46 < karasz> have to make a manual symlink to /dev/input/mouse0
23:46 < mnemoc> karasz: prefer /dev/input/mice
23:46 < mnemoc> on xorg.conf
23:50  * rxr has no /dev/mouse since years ...
23:51  * mnemoc started using a mouse on devfs age :p
23:53 < karasz> copied xorg.conf.template over xorg.conf
23:53 < karasz> reboote the 16th time :(
23:53 < mnemoc> ehm, the .template is not there to be copied
23:55 < rxr> flagedit 0.0.7 
23:55 < rxr> About: Flagedit is a CLI USE flags and package keywords editor for Gentoo Linux. It lets you edit the USE flags of /etc/make.conf, as well as the /etc/portage/package.use file. It also allows you to easily edit /etc/portage/package.keywords. 
23:55 < rxr> Changes: The help display now fits in 80 columns.
23:55 < rxr> ^- huh ?
23:55 < mnemoc> gentoo approach sucks
23:57 < karasz> :D
23:57 < CIA-20> rene * r14232 /trunk/package/base/cdrtools/cdrtools.conf: 
23:57 < CIA-20> * overwrite uname call in cdrtools Makefile system^Wcruft to compile
23:57 < CIA-20>  for 32bit on 64bit systems (powerpc64, sparc64, x86-64, ...)
23:57 < karasz> ni na nah na na na i have X now :D
23:58 < rxr> mnemoc: we could source scripts/Config otu as SDECFG edit ,-)
23:58 < mnemoc> kudos :)
23:58 < rxr> *evil grin?*
23:58 < mnemoc> :)
23:58 < rxr> karasz: ,-)
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