--- Log opened Wed Jan 04 00:00:42 2006 00:16 < mnemoc> rehi! 00:17 < karasz> Ohayoo gozaimasu mnemoc san 00:17 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :) 00:18 < mnemoc> karasz: :) 00:18 < mnemoc> thx morfoh 00:26 < karasz> oki build in stage [5] now 00:26 < karasz> so i guess i'll go to sleep 00:27 < karasz> tomorrow i will make a bootdisk build and isos 00:27 < karasz> iff all goes well by tomorrow i can move in :D 00:27 < morfoh> karasz: sleep well ... cu tomorrow ;) 00:27 < karasz> arigato morfoh san 00:28 < karasz> same 2u2 00:28 < karasz> :P 00:28 < morfoh> :p 00:28 < karasz> cu guys 00:28 < karasz> bye 00:28 < morfoh> cu karasz san :p 00:39 < mnemoc> OT: is mingw a gcc toolchain for un*x to build win32 binaries, or a gcc toolchain to run on win32 platform? 01:00 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFDBE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:14 < CIA-1> amery * r14465 /trunk/package/archiver/bzip2/ (bzip2.conf bzip2.desc fix_shared.patch makefile.patch): * fixed libbzip2 under dietlibc, and copyright notes updated 01:15 < morfoh> thx ;) 01:16 < demian> bye 01:16 < morfoh> cu demian 01:17 < mnemoc> cu demian 02:19 < mnemoc> # ls | sed -e "s/f//g" | wc -l 02:19 < mnemoc> 21 02:19 < mnemoc> # ls | sed -e "s/^f//g" | wc -l 02:19 < mnemoc> sed: -e expression #1, char 7: Memory exhausted 02:19 < mnemoc> 0 02:19 < mnemoc> sweet 02:19 < morfoh> # ls | sed -e "s/f//g" | wc -l 02:19 < morfoh> 18 02:19 < morfoh> dietlibc + minised 02:20 < mnemoc> and ^f ? 02:20 < morfoh> ls | sed -e "s/^f//g" | wc -l 02:20 < morfoh> 18 02:20 < mnemoc> and normal sed? 02:21 < morfoh> any other wishes ? :p 02:21 < mnemoc> nope 02:21 < mnemoc> just that 02:21 < morfoh> haha 02:21 < mnemoc> :) 02:22 < morfoh> :) 02:23 < morfoh> ... waiting ... 02:24 < morfoh> # ls | sed -e "s/f//g" | wc -l 02:24 < morfoh> 18 02:24 < morfoh> # ls | sed -e "s/^f//g" | wc -l 02:24 < morfoh> sed: -e expression #1, char 7: Memory exhausted 02:24 < morfoh> 0 02:25 < morfoh> on embedded target from trunk HEAD 02:25 < mnemoc> so it's not me 02:26 < morfoh> unfort. not :p 02:26 < mnemoc> :) 02:27 < morfoh> minised ? 02:28 < mnemoc> doens't sound like the right fix 02:29 < morfoh> even not for a dietlibc target ? 02:31 < CIA-1> amery * r14466 /trunk/package/mail/vmailmgr/ (6 files): * added vmailmgr (0.97) - Simple virtualizing for qmail 02:31 < mnemoc> dietlibc doesn't mean 'embedded' 02:31 < mnemoc> it can be 'just light' 02:31 < mnemoc> anyway i doubt minised is ready for all our sed expressions 02:32 < mnemoc> like i doubt ash is ready for running out scripts 02:33 < morfoh> god s(h)ave bash :p 02:35 < mnemoc> F* strace doesn't build for dietlibc 02:39 < morfoh> same here 02:44 < mnemoc> try this: for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do echo $x; done | sort -n 02:45 < morfoh> no sort 02:46 < mnemoc> embedded boy :( 02:47 < morfoh> skript kiddie :p 02:50 < mnemoc> we need 'sort' to enter stage 2 02:50 < mnemoc> it's not a matter of targets 02:50 < mnemoc> or package selection 02:51 < morfoh> so we depend on coreutils 02:52 < mnemoc> yep 02:54 < mnemoc> cool.... and gdb doesn't build on stage1 03:05 < morfoh> sort: write error: Bad file number 03:06 < mnemoc> yeah! 03:06 < mnemoc> i love it :) 03:06 * mnemoc trying to get strace built 03:06 < morfoh> I already recognize it ;) 03:10 < mnemoc> stupid fefe's ML 03:10 < mnemoc> it doesn't accept plain text attachments 04:13 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-32-220-34.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:16 < ojh> Hi. I seem to be having some hardware detection problems on 2.1.0 04:19 < ojh> Error from messages 'Jan 3 20:13:39 localhost hal.hotplug[2838]: DEVPATH is not set (subsystem pci)' 04:20 < mnemoc> uhm 04:22 < ojh> mnemoc: The thing that is not working is my BTTV capture card. The modules are loaded in the lernel but nothing is in /dev 04:22 < ojh> mnemoc: This error from HotPlug looks like the problem. 04:22 < mnemoc> how 'nothing'? 04:23 < ojh> mnemoc: No /dev/v4l/ . . . nothing. 04:24 < ojh> mnemoc: But if I 'lsmod' everything seems to be loaded just fine. 04:25 < mnemoc> uhm 04:25 < ojh> mnemoc: And it does set up all automagicly on ROCK 2.0.0 04:25 < mnemoc> uhm^2 04:26 < mnemoc> what target? 04:26 < ojh> mnemoc: Installed from the normal T2 Desktop ISOs 04:26 < mnemoc> uhm^3 04:26 < ojh> LOL 04:27 < ojh> mnemoc: All my other hardware works perfectly :-/ 04:28 < mnemoc> can you pastebin (http://www.rafb.net/paste/) your var/log/message ? i can't review now (too sleepy) but tomorrow 04:29 < ojh> Sure 04:29 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE216.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 04:38 < ojh> mnemoc: Thanks. You are a big part of the support success of T2, this IRC channel has been invaluable when I have a problem. 04:38 < mnemoc> :) 04:38 < mnemoc> but i'm a tired part 04:41 < ojh> mnemoc: Get enough users of T2 and send all the IRC logs to O'Riley so they can write a book or three on T2. What animal would that have on the cover?!?!?! :-) 04:41 < mnemoc> a caterpillar :) 04:41 < ojh> :-) 05:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-32-220-34.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 05:49 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 05:56 < mipe> hmm, any news about libstdc++.la thing? does the patch really work... libstdc++.la looks bit empty on dependency_libs section 06:45 < mipe> hmm, again i get build/desktop-*-desktopusr/ 06:48 < mipe> and the dietlibc posix utime et all fix breaks dietlibc for atleast x64 07:10 < rxr> re 07:11 < rxr> mipe: there is nothing libstdc++ should need more 07:11 < rxr> mipe: looks good so far 07:11 < rxr> I have not yet seen dietlibc failing but I'll give it a spin 07:16 < mipe> all i have in libstdc++.la (dependency_libs) is -lm, but yes, its working so far... 07:16 < rxr> lm is the only thing needed ... -lc and -lgcc and such are default anyway ... 07:17 < rxr> that is you do not hand them to gcc when compiling anyway ... 07:17 < rxr> thus this is fine 07:17 < mipe> rxr: after removing the dietlibc posixfy_utime_execl_execle.patch it builds normally... 07:17 < mipe> yep i know 07:17 < mipe> dietlibc error was some conflicting types for 'utime 07:18 < mipe> +s' 07:20 < rxr> hm 07:20 < rxr> !> libcompat/utimes.c:10: error: conflicting types for 'uti .. 07:20 < rxr> !> include/sys/time.h:78: error: previous declaration of 'u .. 07:20 < LMJ> morning rxr 07:21 < mipe> also shadow failing on stage 3, but thats because some pam include files missing... 07:22 < rxr> patch is tiny 07:22 < rxr> just one more const 07:22 < rxr> mipe: yes - I noticed this last nicht 07:22 < rxr> night 07:22 < rxr> jsaw did a in-system emerge to test 07:23 < rxr> the new pam does install includes wrong 07:23 < rxr> woudl be cool if you cold take a look 07:24 < rxr> the dietlibc fix gets commited in a minute when it pased a test build 07:27 < CIA-1> rene * r14467 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/posixfy_utime_execl_execle.patch: 07:27 < CIA-1> * fixed dietlibc/posixfy_utime_execl_execle.patch by correcting another 07:27 < CIA-1> define of utimes 07:55 < rxr> cu 08:25 < valentin> moin 08:26 < LMJ> moin valentin 08:26 < valentin> hi LMJ 08:26 < LMJ> how are you ? 09:00 < rxr> re 09:02 < rxr> moin valentin 09:06 < valentin> moin rxr 09:06 < valentin> LMJ: just fine 09:06 < valentin> how are you rxr and LMJ 09:07 < LMJ> fine thx here 09:08 < valentin> so, i'll take a short look what's wrong with the fonts.... 09:12 < rxr> heh 09:12 < rxr> look at the google logo today 09:12 < LMJ> hehe, i was watching it too 09:12 < LMJ> you was faster rxr ;) 09:13 < rxr> valentin: what kinda font problem do you have ? 09:13 < valentin> no font seems to work 09:14 < valentin> i only have [] everywhere in X 09:14 < rxr> the system font path is missing in /etc/font/fonts.conf then .. 09:14 < valentin> yes, that is what i thought 09:14 < rxr> /usr/share/fonts 09:14 < rxr> 09:14 < rxr> ~/.fonts 09:14 < rxr> the empty line should read 09:14 < rxr> /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts 09:14 < rxr> or so 09:14 < rxr> need to review why this happens ... 09:15 < rxr> bug or so i the modular fontconfig/configure or so ... 09:15 < rxr> add the line and run the 80-xorg or so postinstall or just 09:15 < rxr> fc-cache -vs --- Log opened Wed Jan 04 09:22:22 2006 09:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 13 secs 09:22 < rxr> so 09:22 < rxr> damn - this cable was loose ... 09:22 < rxr> should not manage to do this more often ... 09:23 < mipe> scripts/functions.in: line 266: /usr/lib/security/pam_xauth.la: No such file or 09:23 < mipe> directory 09:23 < mipe> Verifing the .la files ... 09:23 < mipe> grep: lib/libpam.la: No such file or directory 09:24 < rxr> hm 09:24 < mipe> pam should be working now, i could commit the patch soon... fixing include directories 09:24 < mipe> except for those above errors 09:25 < mipe> eeer warnings even 09:25 < rxr> mipe: did you fix pam to install into the correct directory again ? 09:25 < mipe> include files, I didnt notice that other files where in incorrect directory? 09:26 < rxr> mipe: yeah I just wanted to know whether you tweaked the #include directives or the file installation ... 09:35 < valentin> *brunch* 09:41 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.14] has joined #t2 09:42 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.99] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:42 < mipe> hmm 09:43 < mipe> pam fix might be just simpler to change includedir=$root/usr/include/security, so all the header files are there. so no need to patch all Makefile.in in pam subdirs 09:43 < mipe> and looks like from my running system all the pam headers are there 09:44 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 09:45 < mipe> eek 09:47 < mipe> svn segfauls on commit 09:47 < mipe> 2.1.1 from iso few days ago 09:52 < rxr> ouh 09:54 < mipe> does subversion really need java jdk? 09:54 < mipe> is listed on cache 09:54 < rxr> optional dep on java bindings ? 09:55 < mipe> hmm, might be 10:01 < CIA-1> rene * r14468 /trunk/package/x11/freetype1/freetype1.desc: 10:01 < CIA-1> * marked freetype1 AUTOMAKE-QUIRK, at least powerpc64 is not in the 10:01 < CIA-1> outdated config.{guess,sub} 10:18 < rxr> http://www.kernel.org looks forbidden ... 10:18 < Baldzius> :) 10:18 < Baldzius> good morning rxr :) 10:20 < rxr> hi Baldzius 10:38 < jsaw> re (just for a second) 10:39 < jsaw> rxr: mozilla builds on x86-64, but is heavily unstable 10:39 < jsaw> :( 10:40 < jsaw> rxr: apropos fonts.conf, /usr/X11/share/fonts is what I used in xproto.conf yesterday, should it have been /usr/share/fonts ? 10:40 < rxr> jsaw: well other dists use /usr/share/fonts ... 10:40 < rxr> IIRC 10:41 < rxr> maybe we should migrate to that as well ... ? 10:41 < rxr> jsaw: in the past mozilla on x86-64 worked normally ... 10:41 < rxr> how do you define a unstable mozilla ? 10:43 < jsaw> segfaulting, even on t2 homepage... 10:43 < jsaw> but now always 10:43 < jsaw> s/now/not/ 10:44 < jsaw> bbl 10:46 < rxr> hm 10:46 < rxr> ok - I have not tried firefox 1.5 on x86-64 yet ... 10:46 < rxr> maybe it is due that ... 10:51 < rxr> eiiiiii 10:51 < rxr> damn shilly 10:56 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/cdrtools:cdrtools: usr/include/align.h 10:56 < rxr> wonderful 10:56 < rxr> not to mention his makefiles rules stink ... 10:56 < rxr> and yes I try to cross build it right now ... 11:03 < rxr> and the makefiles just finishes without a proper exit code due his hackery ... 11:03 < rxr> even on errors ... 11:05 < rxr> and his code uses functions I never saw before ... 11:05 < rxr> gcvt - convert a floating-point number to a string 11:05 < rxr> NOTES 11:05 < rxr> This function is obsolete. Instead, sprintf() is recommended. 11:05 < rxr> bummer .. 11:26 < mipe> anyone up and running 2.1/2.1.1 on amd64 with subversion (commit) working? 11:26 < mipe> rebuilded subversion+deps, but didnt help... :( 11:27 < mipe> and does someone have t2 image that could be used for usb booting and later installing t2 11:29 < rxr> mipe: the latest initrd stuff supports booting from USB 11:29 < rxr> the new install/ stuff is tested to load from USB fine 11:29 < rxr> the archivista target as well 11:29 < rxr> (at least weeks before it got broken by all the latest changes) 11:29 < mipe> ok thanks 11:30 < rxr> the initrd generated is able to wait for usb root devices to show up and udevd will create /dev notes for USB on the fly as need (inside the initrd) 11:30 < rxr> my geode even boots/runs from a usb flash 11:30 < rxr> though technically it is not different from usb hard-disk 11:31 < mipe> rxr: have you runned svn commit in system under 2.1-branch? 11:32 < rxr> I only built 2.1 on the box 11:33 < karasz> moin all 11:33 < rxr> I run trunk 11:33 < rxr> trunk commit works ... 11:39 < karasz> bild not finished...?? 11:41 < rxr> karasz: x86-64 on my or your side ? 11:41 < karasz> mine 11:42 < karasz> i build a stable desktop... 11:42 < rxr> from my 1000 packages in a desktop build only 19 failed so far 11:42 < rxr> trunk that is 11:43 < karasz> i have 2 failed on stable... 11:44 < karasz> so far 11:44 < karasz> where is the dld failures file? 11:48 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:48 < karasz> transfig and transset failed... 11:48 < karasz> but i guess it is a x86-64 issue 11:49 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 11:49 < karasz> where is the download failures log? 11:57 < CIA-1> rene * r14469 /trunk/scripts/config.in: 11:57 < CIA-1> * removed the cpus*2 that we only had to get an inital testing of 11:57 < CIA-1> parallel build on all builds, now that nearly all NOPARALLEL packages 11:57 < CIA-1> should be marked, just using a PARALLEL_MAX=$cpus is more optimal 12:01 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF8B9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:09 < mipe> hmm, anyone know if pinnacle (digi)-tv cards work on linux? 12:11 < rxr> depends on the chip 12:11 < rxr> guess some work and some don't ... 12:14 < mipe> hmm, easy to way specify svn commit log file? 12:15 < rxr> you mean the message to use ? 12:15 < mipe> ah, found it 12:15 < rxr> --file 12:15 < mipe> yep 12:15 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFC4C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:21 < karasz> Downloading transset:download/mirror/t/transset-2005-04-01.tar.bz2 ... 12:21 < karasz> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0.236 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec). 12:21 < karasz> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 12:21 < karasz> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 22. Please read the curl manpage. 12:21 < karasz> INFO: download from mirror failed, trying original URL. 12:21 < karasz> cvs -z4 -Q -d :pserver:anoncvs@freedesktop.org:/cvs/xapps co -P -D 2005-04-01 transset 12:21 < karasz> Error during checkout. 12:21 < karasz> ??? 12:24 < rxr> debug-cdrtools:[i386-linux-cc]# file cdrecord 12:24 < rxr> cdrecord: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped 12:24 < rxr> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 285269 Jan 4 13:23 cdrecord 12:25 < rxr> `- dietlibc with grave manual hacks cross compiled ... 12:33 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178171255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 12:33 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 12:33 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 12:33 [Users #t2] 12:33 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-1 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 12:33 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 12:33 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ owl ] [ valentin] 12:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 12:33 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 12:33 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 12:33 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 12:48 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178164226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:51 < jsaw> re 12:55 < karasz> moin jsaw 12:55 < jsaw> hi karasz 12:55 < rxr_> hi jsaw 12:55 < karasz> moin new rxr_ 12:56 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 12:57 < rxr_> hola miguel 12:57 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:01 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178178050.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:01 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 13:01 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 13:01 [Users #t2] 13:01 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-1 ] [ karasz] [ mipe ] [ owl ] [ valentin] 13:01 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 13:01 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ _Ragnar_] 13:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 13:01 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 13:01 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:02 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 32 secs 13:02 < rxr_> re 13:03 < jsaw> hi rxr_ 13:07 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178171255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:11 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:15 < rxr> jsaw: did you build with as-needed? 13:15 < jsaw> no 13:15 < rxr> ah 13:15 < jsaw> (given up on it) 13:15 < rxr> can you test if mozilla is more stable ? 13:15 < jsaw> you mean, with as-needed? 13:15 < rxr> you saied firefox is instable 13:16 < rxr> just meant is mozilla more stable? 13:16 < jsaw> oh, firefox doesn't build :( 13:16 < jsaw> or didn't 13:16 < rxr> oh - so mozilla is unstable ... 13:17 < jsaw> sorry, yes, mozilla segfaults 13:17 < rxr> hm - libtool still fails 13:17 < rxr> despite fixed gcc ... 13:18 < jsaw> ? 13:18 < rxr> in my ppc64 build 13:18 < rxr> pcre sill fails linking against the wrong libstdc++ 13:18 < jsaw> O.O 13:19 < rxr> on your side on x86-64 as well ? 13:19 < jsaw> I just started a fresh build this morning, I can tell in a few hours 13:19 < jsaw> updating shadow now... 13:19 < rxr> h 13:19 < rxr> m 13:19 < rxr> on my x86-64 box libtool built thru ... 13:22 < karasz> usualy libtool builds... 13:23 < rxr> pcre that is ... 13:23 < karasz> when my pcre failed i have not problems buildin libtool 13:23 < rxr> yes I meant pcre .. 13:24 < rxr> libtool just slippted into the channel because I typed it a lot these days ... 13:24 < Baldzius> :) 13:26 < jsaw> fgrep '+++' shadow-4.0.13-4.0.14.diff 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/ChangeLog 2006-01-03 17:49:30.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/Makefile.in 2006-01-03 17:12:34.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/NEWS 2006-01-03 17:45:47.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/README 2005-12-14 18:10:07.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/aclocal.m4 2006-01-03 17:12:16.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/configure 2006-01-03 17:12:36.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> +++ shadow-4.0.14/configure.in 2006-01-03 00:51:44.000000000 +0100 13:26 < jsaw> tststs 13:31 < rxr> this is all ? 13:31 < jsaw> yeah... 13:32 < rxr> btw. do you know diffstat ? or just not installed yet ? ,-) 13:32 < jsaw> the latter :) 13:33 < jsaw> i was shocked myself, no lsdiff around... 13:34 < jsaw> ohoh - too early in the morning - 13:34 * jsaw is stupid 13:35 < jsaw> note to self: diff doesn't recurse into subdirs unless you tell it to do so 13:35 < rxr> ah - yep 13:36 * jsaw buries his hat (without taking it off) 13:37 < Baldzius> :) 13:38 < jsaw> rxr: 13:38 < jsaw> -#include 13:38 < jsaw> -#include 13:38 < jsaw> +#include "pam_defs.h" 13:38 < jsaw> seems like the new shadow might solve the compilation problems... (me hoping) 13:39 < rxr> those pld people stink 13:39 < jsaw> ? 13:39 < jsaw> you can smell that even in Berlin? 13:39 < rxr> why the hack do they need to alter install location in minor versions ???? 13:40 < rxr> and thy the hell do they need to hack those two packages to death ? 13:40 < jsaw> because somebody had a good idea! 13:41 < rxr> is there s.th. in the NEWS or so file about this ? 13:41 < jsaw> or not... 13:41 < jsaw> sec 13:42 < jsaw> not really 13:43 < rxr> and in pam ? 13:45 < jsaw> not really... 13:50 < jsaw> hmmm. now 1-linux26 doesn't build anymore 13:50 < mipe> i just added includedir=$root/usr/include/security pam.conf to get shadow built 13:50 < mipe> on my running system all pam headers are there 13:51 < jsaw> new shadow doesn't need that... 13:51 < jsaw> probably ;| 13:51 < jsaw> I hope 13:51 < mipe> damm glibc fails cross :( 13:52 < CIA-1> rene * r14470 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config: * commented and copyrighted the libtool/parse-config 13:52 < rxr> mipe: built here last night for x86-64 and ppc64 ... 13:52 < rxr> mipe: which arch which t2 flavour ? 13:55 < jsaw> okay, shadow needs the pam-changed-include-path patch :( 13:55 < jsaw> gr 13:57 < jsaw> hmmmm.... 13:57 < mipe> rxr: trunk generic-minimal-desktop from x86-64 to via c3-2 13:57 < rxr> hm 13:57 < rxr> what is the build error ? 13:57 < rxr> jsaw: maybe better patch pam to install the files where they have been since ages ? 13:57 < jsaw> actually, linux-pam is not wrong, it's the installation that screws it 13:58 < jsaw> rxr: linux-pam didn't change it 13:58 < jsaw> there's some makefile interference... 13:58 < rxr> ah - liek libdir= or so ? 13:58 < mipe> rxr:conflicting types for __lll_lock_wait 13:58 < rxr> suggested that last night ... 13:58 < rxr> mipe: hm 13:58 < jsaw> rxr: trying to read the autocrap genereted makefile.... 13:58 < rxr> most probably just that one optmization setting that screws it ... 13:59 < rxr> .oO 13:59 < CIA-1> rene * r14471 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config: 13:59 < CIA-1> * forgot that libtool/parse-config is a shell script not a patch, 13:59 < CIA-1> fixed comments to be properly quoted ... 13:59 < rxr> and why I should test comment changes ... 13:59 < rxr> my oh my ... 14:02 < mipe> rxr:any suggestions what is wrong with cross build? 14:05 < jsaw> I take mipe solution for pam... it's actually a thinko about how Makefile.am works (imo) 14:05 < jsaw> *gah* 14:05 < CIA-1> rene * r14472 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/login-setup.sh: 14:05 < CIA-1> * fixed archivista/login-setup.sh to stop/start apache instead of restart so 14:05 < CIA-1> mod_perl is not reloaded otherwise 14:10 < jsaw> rxr: I should remind you testing the input-match.cc change ;) 14:11 < CIA-1> rene * r14473 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/login-setup.sh: 14:11 < CIA-1> * fixed archivista/login-setup.sh to properly exit on cancel and not 14:11 < CIA-1> silently write empty strings into the config 14:12 < rxr> jsaw: yes and the slides 14:12 < jsaw> :) 14:12 < jsaw> hotplug is more important ;) 14:12 < jsaw> right now 14:12 < jsaw> I mean 14:13 < rxr> doing some archivista work to make sure they are happy and I have money also ... 14:13 < rxr> too bad I can not reproduce some of their filled bugs ... 14:14 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14474 /trunk/package/base/pam/ (pam.conf pam.desc): 14:14 < CIA-1> * fix include installation (following mipe's suggestion, setting includedir) 14:14 < CIA-1> * add documentation installation 14:20 < mipe> huoh, glibc bug tracking page had a report of lll_ll* bug and was marked as duplicate report, but dammed no proper duplicate bug id 14:21 < mnemoc> moin 14:21 < karasz> moin mnemoc 14:22 < mipe> YES!! pcre built 14:23 < mnemoc> moin karasz, mipe, rxr, ks 14:23 < mnemoc> s/ks/jsaw/ 14:23 < karasz> mnemoc, i succeded to break stable... :D 14:25 < mipe> hmm, looks like nptl doesnt build for via... thats the reason for lll_ll_wait crap 14:25 < jsaw> *gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah* 14:25 < mnemoc> karasz: kudos! 14:25 < karasz> :D 14:25 < karasz> that's all? 14:26 < mipe> nptl is for i486 or higher only... hmmm 14:26 < mnemoc> rxr: coreutils' sed fails on '^' 14:26 < karasz> i thought that at least i will get slapped or some... 14:27 < rxr> karasz: ? 14:27 < mnemoc> i have no know what you did first :) 14:27 * mnemoc doesn't slap for free 14:27 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - thanks - acked 14:27 < rxr> tested some single sed expresions in the morning and they worked 14:27 < rxr> indeed ^ is a culprit 14:28 < rxr> let's see if I find some time to track this today ... 14:28 < mnemoc> but sort fails on all my tests 14:28 < mnemoc> do you have a patch to get strace built? 14:28 < rxr> mnemoc: with ugly hackery cdrools can be cross build - even with dietlibc .. 14:28 < karasz> mnemoc, 14:28 < karasz> install -c fig2dev /usr/X11R6/bin/fig2dev 14:28 < karasz> + mkdir -p /usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps 14:28 < karasz> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib64/X11': File exists 14:28 < karasz> Copying bitmap files for tk to /usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps 14:28 < karasz> install: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib64/X11/xfig/bitmaps': No such file or directory 14:28 < karasz> make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 14:28 < karasz> make[1]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.transfig.desktop.20060104.061851.8136.karasz/transfig.3.2.4/fig2dev' 14:28 < karasz> make: *** [install] Error 2 14:28 < mnemoc> rxr: :D 14:28 < karasz> Due to previous errors, no 5-transfig.log file! 14:28 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - not tried yet ... 14:28 < karasz> transfig 14:28 < rxr> mnemoc: but cdtools is ugly - I do not commit hackery for it yet 14:29 < rxr> well - at least not the evil bits ... 14:29 < mnemoc> rxr: np 14:29 < mnemoc> karasz: file build/desktop-*/usr/lib64/X11 14:30 < CIA-1> rene * r14475 /trunk/package/base/cdrtools/cdrtools.conf: 14:30 < CIA-1> * fixed cdrtools to use the specified compiler for linking (not 14:30 < CIA-1> gcc hardcoded) - improves cross compiling, but due to ugly config 14:30 < CIA-1> neightmare tried to build with a wrong config - fixes for that at a 14:30 < CIA-1> later time 14:30 < karasz> build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/lib64/X11: symbolic link to `../X11/lib64/X11' 14:31 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF73E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 14:31 < karasz> but the error that intrigues me the most is transet\ 14:31 < karasz> even transset 14:31 < mnemoc> karasz: that symlink is broken! 14:31 < mnemoc> build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/lib64/X11/../X11/lib64/X11 14:31 < morfoh> hi * 14:31 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 14:31 < karasz> moin morfoh 14:32 < morfoh> hi mnemoc + karasz ;) 14:32 < mnemoc> karasz: grep 'usr/lib64/X11$' build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/var/adm/flist/* 14:32 < mnemoc> rxr: did you try dtach? 14:32 < karasz> grep: build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/var/adm/flist/*: No such file or directory 14:32 < mnemoc> flists 14:33 < karasz> build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/var/adm/flists/xorg:xorg: usr/lib64/X11 14:33 < mnemoc> rm build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/lib64/X11 14:33 < mnemoc> mkdir build/desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/usr/lib64/X11 14:33 < mnemoc> until i find the bug 14:34 < karasz> but transset ... 14:34 < karasz> Downloading transset:download/mirror/t/transset-2005-04-01.tar.bz2 ... 14:34 < karasz> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0.236 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec). 14:34 < karasz> curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 14:34 < karasz> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 22. Please read the curl manpage. 14:34 < karasz> INFO: download from mirror failed, trying original URL. 14:34 < karasz> cvs -z4 -Q -d :pserver:anoncvs@freedesktop.org:/cvs/xapps co -P -D 2005-04-01 transset 14:34 < karasz> Error during checkout. 14:35 < karasz> i even checked out manualy t2 and the file is not there... 14:36 < morfoh> karasz: I thought you are running a stable system now ... what the hack you've done to screw it up again :p 14:36 < karasz> :D))) 14:36 < karasz> just buildin' stable 14:36 < morfoh> oh! you just smiled at your computer ? 14:36 < karasz> and broke it as usual...:D))) 14:37 < mnemoc> karasz: karasz UTFM 14:37 < karasz> UTFM? 14:38 < mnemoc> use the fine mirrors 14:38 < morfoh> perhaps mnemoc broke it ... and you're just the little test mouse ... 14:38 * karasz renames itself: karasz The Breaker 14:38 < karasz> i was using gsmp... 14:40 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/2.1-stable/t/transset-2005-04-01.tar.bz2 14:41 < rxr> mnemoc: I have not tried detach 14:41 < rxr> should I ? 14:41 < mnemoc> rxr: you were looking for a simpler 'screen' 14:41 < karasz> mnemoc, and what about the chksum? 14:41 < karasz> i guess i shouyld make it manualy or some... 14:41 < CIA-1> rene * r14476 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/rocknet_dhcp.sh: 14:41 < CIA-1> * fixed dhcp rocknet module to properly flush the ip address when the 14:41 < CIA-1> interface goes down, so it does not interfere with a new one when it is 14:41 < CIA-1> takes up again (reported by Archivista) 14:41 < karasz> or just dld in the right location using wget? 14:41 < mnemoc> dtach, which is != detach, it's almost the same without TERM hackery or off-line buffer 14:42 < mnemoc> karasz: you could see my poor box as your mirror if gsmp doesn't have 2.1 files 14:42 < rxr> mnemoc: nah 14:42 < rxr> let us fix missing files 14:43 < karasz> oki i will wait for missing file 14:43 < rxr> karasz: I inject it right now 14:43 < mnemoc> :) 14:43 < mnemoc> much better 14:43 < karasz> mnemoc, your upload is better spent with gsmp than me ;) 14:43 < mnemoc> :) 14:44 < rxr> rm mozilla-1.7.11-source.tar.bz2.cksum-err 14:44 < rxr> rm: remove regular file `mozilla-1.7.11-source.tar.bz2.cksum-err' 14:44 < rxr> ? 14:44 < mnemoc> .oO( "you could see"??? what am i writting these days )o 14:44 < rxr> so - what was it I wanted to do right now ... 14:44 < rxr> damn 14:45 < rxr> there was someting important to remeber ... 14:45 < mnemoc> coreutils on dietlibc :) 14:45 < rxr> haha 14:45 < rxr> no %$$$ related 14:45 < mnemoc> rxr: 2.1 has .8 and trunk .12 14:46 < rxr> ah 14:46 < mnemoc> coreutils is lovely 14:49 < karasz> guys an advice about partitioning... 14:49 < karasz> i usualy do a /boot swap / in that order... 14:49 < karasz> should i change my ways? 14:50 < mnemoc> i do boot + big lvm2 14:50 < rxr> I do no boot 14:51 < mnemoc> i mean root 14:51 < rxr> and I place swap first, because normal HDs are fastest at the beginning ... 14:51 < karasz> hmmm o do not think my .boot is used... 14:51 < mnemoc> and swap, home, var, usr, opt, srv on lvm2 14:52 < karasz> for now i guess i will do just swap and / and throw the rest to vserver 14:52 < karasz> how does it sound? 14:52 < mnemoc> yes, HDs are faster at the begining, but how cares :p 14:52 < mnemoc> lvm flexibility pays 14:52 < rxr> hehe - goo that network/dhcp/rocknet_dhcp.sh was not renamed 14:53 < mnemoc> renamed? 14:53 < karasz> another one: 14:53 < rxr> updated from r10937 to r14476 on the carefully selected archivista anspshot ... 14:53 < rxr> snapshot ... 14:53 < karasz> i have some very small apps that do not have a Makefile... 14:53 < rxr> woah! 14:53 < karasz> am i suposed to provide one for T2? 14:53 < rxr> kdebase on the hammer notebook: ccache 663 hits 1 misses !!! 14:54 < mnemoc> karasz: vserver use /vservers, and i that case i use a logical volume for each client in there 14:54 < mnemoc> karasz: grep '^makeopt=$' package/*/*/*.conf 14:54 < rxr> karasz: apps of yourself or other open source sites ? 14:55 < karasz> other 14:55 < karasz> i do not code C :( 14:55 < karasz> mnemoc, 14:55 < mnemoc> not all software is written on C 14:55 < karasz> package/java/eclipse/eclipse.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/java/java-dirtree/java-dirtree.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/mail/qmqtool/qmqtool.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/multimedia/flashplayer/flashplayer.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/multimedia/w32codec/w32codec.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/printing/cups-samba/cups-samba.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/security/vserver/vserver.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < karasz> package/textproc/text2pdf/text2pdf.conf:makeopt= 14:55 < mnemoc> karasz: not for me! 14:55 < mnemoc> karasz: for _you_ 14:56 < karasz> `makeopt=` ? 14:56 < mnemoc> karasz: those packages don't use `make all`, so you can take them as reference 14:56 < karasz> oki 14:56 < karasz> now i get it 14:56 < rxr> karasz: how is the software built ? 14:57 < karasz> a simple gcc call 14:57 < karasz> gcc -o foo foo.c 14:57 < karasz> single C files mostly 14:58 < mnemoc> if it's more than one .c, probably patching in a Makefile would be better 14:58 < karasz> just one C 14:58 < mnemoc> makeopt= 14:58 < mnemoc> makeinstopt= 14:58 < karasz> very very small apps 14:58 < mnemoc> hook_add inmake 5 '$CC -o foo foo.c' 14:58 < karasz> hook_add inmake 5 "$CC -o $bindir/text2pdf $( match_source_file -p text2pdf )" 14:59 < karasz> oki 14:59 < mnemoc> hook_add postmake 5 'cp -v foo $sbindir' 14:59 < mnemoc> yes, text2pdf is a single .c :) 14:59 < mnemoc> but that inmake is dirty 14:59 < mnemoc> compiling and installing on the same line ... yuck 14:59 < mnemoc> .oO( who did that? )o 15:01 < rxr> mnemoc: it is even so for rc - which could potentionlly crash an admins rc while emerging ... 15:01 < mnemoc> rxr: ack, install shall be as atomic as possible 15:02 < rxr> when you have a THz box maybe assembling looks atomic for a crawling snake ... ,-) 15:03 < rxr> == 01/04/06 16:02:24 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs. 15:03 < rxr> so - finally on the ppc64 box .. 15:03 < rxr> can't await to have a real browser ... 15:03 < mnemoc> hehe 15:04 * mnemoc can't wait for a normal dietlibc-based target 15:04 < mnemoc> do you have something to build strace for dietlibc? 15:04 < rxr> I feared corrupted select on ppc*, posix incorrect declares and crashing sort and sed would annoy you ... 15:04 < rxr> mnemoc: not off hand 15:04 < mnemoc> oh 15:05 < rxr> until archivista calls back I look onto coreutils and strace for some minutes ... 15:05 < mnemoc> i'll do money-work for now too 15:06 < rxr> well I have more $$$ on the TODO but I need something relaxing for some minutes .. 15:06 < rxr> we could declare this lunch break ,-) 15:07 < mnemoc> coreutils is good for relaxing :) 15:09 < rxr> 17068 root 18 0 589m 312m 1192 R 1.7 72.1 0:18.85 cc1plus 15:09 < rxr> ^- hamer sub-notebook swapping to death ... 15:09 < rxr> at least better now that I build with PARALLEL_MAX=1 ... 15:10 < rxr> but I guess I need 1GB RAM ... 15:10 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14477 /trunk/package/base/shadow/ (nullok.patch shadow.conf shadow.desc): 15:10 < CIA-1> * update shadow (4.0.13 -> 4.0.14) 15:10 < CIA-1> * disable selinux module usage on non-selinux systems 15:10 < CIA-1> (otherwise pam fails to login :| ) 15:10 < CIA-1> * FIXME: created a currently empty etc/pam.d/system-auth file 15:13 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14478 /trunk/TODO: 15:13 < CIA-1> * added note for PAM review 15:13 < CIA-1> * removed two items (gcc update to 4.0, boot code refactoring) 15:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: i thought you were using pwdutils 15:14 < jsaw> for now I try to get a running system before starting experiments... :| 15:14 < mnemoc> valid :) 15:15 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14479 /trunk/package/base/cracklib/cracklib.conf: * install the simple dictionary (others should be added probably also) 15:16 < jsaw> okay, no more pam_console etc. errors, but now pam complains about missing prelude client... 15:16 < jsaw> I'll ignore that for now... 15:16 < mnemoc> pam _require_ prelude?? 15:17 < jsaw> no, it doesn't, but the new pam.d/files enable more than one usually has installed ... 15:17 < jsaw> I already had to add an selinux fix 15:18 < mnemoc> oh 15:18 < jsaw> Sooner or later I'll add our own properly tweaked pam.d/files 15:18 < mnemoc> btw, do you plan to package the rest of http://www.thkukuk.de/pam/ ? 15:20 < jsaw> I just forgot the url, but now I added it to my todo list... 15:20 < mnemoc> :) 15:20 < rxr> 17068 root 18 0 704m 324m 3644 T 0.0 75.0 0:29.91 cc1plus 15:20 < rxr> ... 15:20 < jsaw> O.O 15:20 < jsaw> kde? 15:21 < mnemoc> what else? :) 15:22 < jsaw> what'd you mean with what else? 15:22 < mnemoc> what else could those levels of perfect resource consume? 15:23 < mnemoc> could reach* 15:23 < rxr> mnemoc: what else? pixie or boost are candidates .. 15:24 < mnemoc> pixie is kde :) 15:24 < rxr> nope 15:24 < rxr> a 3d renderer 15:24 < rxr> pixie++ is the kde paint thing .. 15:24 < mnemoc> aha 15:24 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. kde only consumes so much memory because we --enable-final which let's kde preprocess all modules files into one file so gcc can do better inter procedural optimizations ... 15:25 < rxr> this of course leads to big C++ code chunks ... 15:25 < mnemoc> yes yes... kde is not the crap i like to think 15:26 < mnemoc> woh! pixie is nice 15:26 * mnemoc wants it 15:26 < rxr> pixie freezed or killed or so my athlon ... 15:26 < rxr> just building reference 15:27 < rxr> I hope the 1.5GB dual ppc does survive a pixie build ... 15:27 < karasz> --enable-final is also requested by konversation... 15:27 < mnemoc> outch 15:28 < rxr> but right now I hope to reach kdebase soon to have a browser 15:28 < karasz> i mean that --enable-final must be romoved for konversation 15:28 < karasz> not that it matters very much 15:29 < mnemoc> karasz: var_remove confopt ' ' '--enable-final' 15:29 < karasz> it is on konversation.conf 15:29 < karasz> already 15:29 < mnemoc> rxr: pixar really use pixie? 15:29 < rxr> no idea ... 15:30 < rxr> I only stumbled over it when I wanted to find out what code freezed my box every week reference hit it ... 15:30 < mnemoc> :) 15:31 < mnemoc> Maintainer: Sebastian Czech <--- sepp? 15:31 < rxr> IIRC yes 15:32 < mnemoc> Build time (on reference hardware): 52117% (relative to binutils) <-- *G* 15:32 < rxr> I fear the cache is outdated 15:32 < rxr> because it never built on my box ... 15:35 < rxr> sed is so complex ... 15:35 < mnemoc> pixie 1.4.4 built on 2.1 15:35 < rxr> no wonder minised is 10 times faster ... 15:36 < mnemoc> but t2 is too complex for minised 15:36 < rxr> what code I dive thru for sed to compile the simple s/^a/b/ substitude ... 15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: there is not much missing .. 15:36 < rxr> so far I know two things ... 15:36 < rxr> could be easily tweaked in minised .. 15:37 < mnemoc> without bloating? 15:37 < rxr> though one is a gnu extension - we could alter t2 instead ... 15:37 < rxr> the other is a bug I think 15:37 < rxr> I could write an minisort as well .. 15:37 < rxr> the coreutils sort looked, well, very bloated ... 15:37 < rxr> n 15:38 < mnemoc> fullfeatured :) 15:38 < rxr> nah bloated 15:38 < mnemoc> *g* 15:38 < rxr> minised is also mostly posxliy full-featured and not bloated .. 15:39 < rxr> well minised's biggest restriction is a fixed byte-compiled expression space - but I could remove that in an afternoon ... 15:39 < mnemoc> we should avoid non-posix 15:40 < mnemoc> and sort? also disable coreutils' ? 15:40 < rxr> hehe 15:40 < rxr> yes ... 15:40 < rxr> joking ... 15:40 < mnemoc> :) 15:40 < rxr> I still dive thru sed ... 15:40 < rxr> 9th breakpoint already ... 15:40 < mnemoc> outch 15:40 < rxr> 10th 15:41 < mnemoc> sadly we can enforce posix sed on t2, but not on packages 15:41 < rxr> well - configure is so complex bacause they have so many fallbacks ... 15:42 < rxr> but instead writing posix conform scripts at the first place they generate all this complex fluff in the hope one variant will run ... 15:42 < rxr> well - more or less 15:43 < rxr> 12th breakpoint 15:43 < rxr> damn is that deep and complex ... 15:43 < rxr> I just asked for s/^a/b/ and not one milions backrefs ... 15:43 < rxr> my ... 15:43 < mnemoc> memory exhausted 15:44 < mnemoc> but is this done on sed itself or libc? 15:44 < rxr> 13th 15:45 < mnemoc> what are you using? gdb? 15:45 < rxr> yep 15:46 < mipe> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo 15:46 < rxr> mipe: ? 15:47 < mipe> gfx card from my laptop is now officially broken 15:47 < rxr> ? 15:47 < mipe> there went ATI 9000 15:47 < rxr> > 15:47 < rxr> > 15:47 < rxr> ? even ... ? 15:47 < mipe> lots of distrortion and now only blank screen 15:47 < mnemoc> .oO( why gdb didn't build for me? )o 15:47 < rxr> mnemoc: I first debugged on my full system ... 15:47 < mipe> pixels went all mad :( 15:48 < rxr> of course I first rebuild with debug symbols ... 15:48 < rxr> no need to build dietlibc'ed bdb .. 15:48 < rxr> but now I debug a temp build sed on my ppc64 box since my hammer is too busy swapping ... 15:48 < rxr> mipe: ouhm 15:51 < rxr> mnemoc: I fear this is just because dietlibc does not allow mallo (0) ? 15:51 < mnemoc> what malloc(0) should do? 15:51 < rxr> undefined 15:51 < rxr> I saw someone commited a allow mallo (0) for uclibc some days ago 15:52 < mnemoc> sounds easy to implement 15:52 < rxr> on glibc it retunrs a pointer to 0 lenth storage ... 15:52 < rxr> depens on your memory model 15:52 < rxr> depends 15:52 < jsaw> If size is 0, either a null pointer or a unique pointer that can be successfully passed to free() will be returned. 15:52 < mnemoc> "If the size of the space requested is 0, the behavior is implementation-defined: the value returned shall be either a null pointer or a unique pointer." 15:52 < mnemoc> ^--- POSIX 15:53 < jsaw> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/malloc.html 15:53 < rxr> ack 15:53 < mnemoc> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/malloc.html :) 15:53 < rxr> dietlibc let the kernel do the work 15:53 < rxr> and let the kernel handle all the mapping 15:53 < rxr> should scale well on linux I think 15:53 < rxr> might not be easy to add 0 lenth hackery there ... 15:53 < rxr> maybe better fix sed ,-) 15:53 < mnemoc> really? 15:54 < rxr> #ifdef WANT_MALLOC_ZERO 15:54 < rxr> aha! 15:54 < rxr> ok - it might be as easy as ... ,-) 15:54 < jsaw> :) 15:54 < rxr> let me see what we choose to build dietlibc with ... ,-) 15:54 < rxr> dietfeatures.h:/* #define WANT_MALLOC_ZERO */ 15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe at least sed is easy to get ... 15:55 < rxr> let's see how hard sort will be (if it does not go away with this change ...) 15:55 * rxr hoping ... 15:56 < mnemoc> jsaw: any particular reason to use posix 1997 instead of posix 2004? 15:56 < rxr> mnemoc: inside the build ? 15:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: which one is which ? 15:57 < jsaw> oh, ic 15:57 < rxr> ? 15:57 < jsaw> I justed picked the first hit while search opengroup 15:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: :) 15:58 < mnemoc> rxr: as reference, i have a bookmark to posix 2004... but jsaw pasted a link from posix 1997 :) 15:59 < rxr> ok 15:59 < mnemoc> and i thought he has reasons to prefer it 16:00 < jsaw> good ol times, ya mean? 16:00 < rxr> I thought you talk about s.th. inside t2 ... 16:00 < rxr> posix 1989 was so nice ... had so many beloved functions deprecated these days ... 16:01 < rxr> # ./sed s/^a/b/ /proc/cpuinfo 16:01 < rxr> processor : 0 16:01 < rxr> works now (tm) 16:01 < mnemoc> WANT_MALLOC_ZERO? 16:02 < rxr> # ./sed s/^p/b/ /proc/cpuinfo 16:02 < rxr> brocessor : 0 16:02 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 16:02 < mnemoc> sort too? 16:02 < rxr> mnemoc: -ENOTTESTEDYET 16:02 < CIA-1> rene * r14480 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf: * enabled WANT_MALLOC_ZERO in dietlibc since GNU sed depends on it 16:04 < rxr> btw. the xomplexity of gnu sed is rather disgusting ... 16:04 < mnemoc> rxr: what's the trick to ask dietlibc to not warn about bloat on malloc and stdio? 16:04 < mnemoc> coreutils is rather disgusting 16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: I think it is a compile time switch - and I would rather like to keep it ... 16:06 < mnemoc> it's not nice when Build-Tools 16:06 < rxr> is it just cosmetic ? 16:07 < mnemoc> and, also... i get an issue with start.o... minute 16:07 < mnemoc> let me rebuild dietlibc 16:10 < rxr> nope - sort is not yet solved ... 16:11 < mnemoc> http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=132680 <--- come on... how can that cost 9k dollars??! 16:11 < mnemoc> almost 10k 16:12 < rxr> hm - what is it ? 16:12 < mnemoc> a laptop 16:12 < mnemoc> 17" 16:12 < rxr> a sparc ? 16:12 < mnemoc> yes 16:12 < mnemoc> but 10k dollars?! 16:13 < rxr> because here is no competition ? 16:13 < jsaw> har har, bincimap fails on x86-64 16:13 < rxr> they could sell it for 20k and the people would buy it ... 16:13 < mnemoc> o.o 16:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: any idea what I need to do if I want to switch from devfs -> udev on syne ? I want to test a newer kernel on 2.1 16:14 < mnemoc> morfoh: build mnemosyne (without X) on 2.2 16:14 < karasz> hmm should i build bootcd in paralel with desktop? 16:14 < rxr> hm 16:15 < rxr> it appears to be just on exit stuff bailing out ... 16:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is the missing piece on 2.1 ? 16:15 < mnemoc> karasz: 2.1? one build of bootdisk target and one build of desktop target 16:15 < karasz> 2.1 16:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: udev/initrd/hotplug++ 16:15 < karasz> desktop is buildin 16:15 < karasz> i wonder if i may launch boot too... 16:16 < mnemoc> karasz: you could build bootdisk ant the same time 16:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: so I assume updating the "3" above on 2.1 and include them would work too ? 16:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: i doubt 16:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's not just the packages, it's the integration 16:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: sysfiles and mkinitrd 16:18 < rxr> mnemoc: sort "is just freaking up in the atexit handlers ..." 16:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmmm ... 16:18 < mnemoc> o.o 16:18 < rxr> though in theory I have no time to tinker ... 16:18 < rxr> let's see what it take to fix ... 16:19 < demian> just to know.. are there radio FM devices, so that i could tune my radio stations from a serial cable, or sth else ? 16:20 * demian wants to listen local FM radio stations and tune them from the PC.. 16:21 < mnemoc> rxr: FYI: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eD5agq71.html 16:23 < rxr> but it builds fine, right ? 16:23 < mnemoc> Config thing, no 16:23 < mnemoc> tools, yes 16:23 < rxr> Config in dietlibc ? 16:24 < mnemoc> but 0.28 doesn't handle malloc_zero :( 16:24 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm 16:24 < mnemoc> rxr: see line 5 16:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: it was added to 0.29 16:24 < rxr> well - then advanced dietlibc stuff is for trunk ,-) 16:24 < mnemoc> rxr: well... feature_malloc_zero.patch :p 16:25 < rxr> heh 16:25 < karasz> cu in a while 16:25 < rxr> or update dietlibc once on 2.1 ... 16:26 < mnemoc> doesn't 0.29 have regressions? 16:27 < rxr> need to review ... 16:27 < rxr> well if you want you can back the zero malloc stuff out ... 16:33 < mnemoc> it doesn't pay if sort can't be fixed :) 16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: why did you proposed building a syne on 2.2 without X ? 16:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: not modular-x aware ? 16:34 < mnemoc> yep 16:35 < mnemoc> but a module would be needed for udev anyway 16:35 < mnemoc> one .all for rockplug if on 2.1, and one .all for udev+hotplug++ if on 2.2 16:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... yes 16:36 < mnemoc> using SDECFG_SHORTID 16:37 < mnemoc> but, mnemosyne.pl should be fixed to support non-module dependencies and patterns on the match 16:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: so you mean, that we can inject "SDECFG_FOO" as a dependency 16:40 < mnemoc> yes 16:41 < mnemoc> but currently [ ] is used, but if it containts '*' we should use [[ ]] 16:42 < mnemoc> and i don't rember if the call to tsort is ignoring deps with ^SDECFG_ 16:43 < mnemoc> but that's the idea 16:46 < jsaw> gotta go 16:46 < jsaw> cu guys 16:46 < mnemoc> cu dr.j 16:46 < morfoh> cu jsaw 16:46 < mnemoc> .oO( that's like a hip hop singer )o 16:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: Dr. "Jam Master" J. :) 16:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: if it would be also interesting for you, I could try to get udev/hotplug++ support running on 2.1 in favour of rockplug ... perhaps that could be interesting for future migration scenarios too ? ... 16:51 < mnemoc> no time for that currently :\ 16:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know that you have no time for that, but I didn't asked you to do it ... I just wanted to know your thoughts about it ;) 16:53 < mnemoc> i don't want udev on 2.1 16:53 < mnemoc> udev is 2.2 field 16:54 < mnemoc> as modular kernel and modular X 16:54 < morfoh> ok! that's a word 16:54 < CIA-1> rene * r14481 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/pkg_patch/pkg_coreutils.patch: 16:54 < CIA-1> * extended dietlibc/pkg_coreutils.patch to not crash with dietlibc 16:54 < CIA-1> (the __fpending code is strange and I wonder if it is POSIX conform 16:54 < CIA-1> to flose stdout ...) 16:54 < mnemoc> all the rest can be merged back 16:56 < rxr> mnemoc: there is a udev package on 2.1 ,-) 16:56 < mnemoc> yes, but unsupported 16:56 < rxr> heh 16:56 < mnemoc> or you want me to replicate all your features on 2.1 ,-) 16:56 < rxr> of course not 16:57 < rxr> that was more of a "maybe we should svn rm it on 2.1 ..." 16:57 < mnemoc> too late for that imo 16:57 < mnemoc> or.... you think noone is using it? 16:58 < rxr> yes 16:58 < rxr> but just leave it there ... 16:58 < rxr> no work no trouble ... 16:59 < mnemoc> have the hope we are more that the 27 fellows on frappr 17:02 < rxr> == 17:58:26 =[5]=> Building kde/kdebase [3.5.0 2.2.0-alpha]. 17:02 < rxr> `- ppc64 17:03 < mnemoc> does fefe has a public svn/cvs ? 17:03 < rxr> cvs 17:04 < mnemoc> oh, here it is.... /me blind 17:07 < CIA-1> rene * r14482 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: 17:07 < CIA-1> * fixed embedded target pkg format locking for the type rename 17:07 < CIA-1> * let the embedded target version the tarballs 17:08 < mnemoc> versioned tarballs are good :) 17:08 < rxr> yes 17:08 < rxr> formerly unversioned was for the simple extractor code 17:08 < rxr> now we have other, more advanced image creation 17:08 < rxr> the tarballs are not needed anymore at all 17:09 < rxr> but for reference builder with automatic publishing they are nice ... 17:09 < rxr> build the next arch every night and auto-publish the files leaving the old versions for reference ... 17:09 < rxr> no ? 17:09 < mnemoc> uhm, MALLOC_ZERO thing was not introduced on 0.29 17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: ehm.... i think you will need a package.db file there 17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: to see checksum changes 17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: for small changes 17:10 < rxr> you mean auto publish ? 17:10 < mnemoc> yes 17:11 < mnemoc> don't you hate upstreamers changes tarballs without changing names? 17:11 < rxr> sure, but for the just for convience, publication ? 17:12 < rxr> if you want that, ... we could implement revisioned tarballs ... 17:12 < mnemoc> no please no 17:13 < rxr> I just wanted rsync build results to known example cross build location keeping old version files ... 17:13 < mnemoc> publish, but publish with an index file containing the checksums 17:13 < rxr> will someone look into the checksum .... 17:13 < mnemoc> automatized scripts... like sam :p 17:16 < morfoh> poor "sam" :p 17:16 < mnemoc> :) 17:17 < CIA-1> rene * r14483 /trunk/target/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 17:17 < CIA-1> * fixed remaining PKGFILE_TYPEs, set desktop to tar.bz2 now that 17:17 < CIA-1> we have a patched mine that can handle it and archivista, livecd, 17:17 < CIA-1> psion-pda and dreamcast to none 17:22 < morfoh> rxr: what do you think ... will I get a working desktop out of trunk or what tree do you propose ? 17:23 < mnemoc> minimal-desktop builds almost flawless 17:23 < mnemoc> on turnk 17:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: thx ;) 17:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: but if you can imagine I'd like to keep my syne :p 17:27 < mnemoc> make it 2.2 aware 17:27 < morfoh> that's the idea 17:27 < mnemoc> you could pkgenable udev and hotplug++ on a .conf for now 17:27 < morfoh> aha 17:27 < mnemoc> well... hotplug++ could go with rockplug on the same .all because the are only available on one tree 17:28 < mnemoc> and only pkgenable udev 17:28 < mnemoc> modular X is also safe on a multitree target 17:28 < mnemoc> because the names don't mix 17:28 < mnemoc> if there is package that match, you are on the tree that needs it 17:29 < morfoh> ok 17:29 < mnemoc> for desktop i would love you to try azazel 17:30 < mnemoc> i want to make it prelude/ldap/bacula ready 17:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: what ? you want to love me ? no way ... I've go outa here :p 17:31 < mnemoc> :) 17:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I take a look on aza*what 17:31 < mnemoc> azazel 17:31 < morfoh> yeah ... right this one 17:31 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel 17:32 < morfoh> I feared that you would provide a link 17:32 < mnemoc> :( 17:32 * mnemoc is predictable 17:32 < morfoh> don't worry 17:34 < mnemoc> azazel is a deamon which teach humans about the good things of life... like seduction, make up and wepons 17:36 < morfoh> but I cannot see a connection between the story and a desktop target 17:37 < mnemoc> azazel is a mnemosyne-based desktop target 17:38 < mnemoc> just that 17:39 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/bzEo5T47.html <--- does it really work for you? 0.28 has MALLOC_ZERO thing 17:40 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, sort is working :) 17:40 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks a lot 17:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: so the diet build is proceeding ? 17:43 < mnemoc> ehm uhm... welll... yes 17:44 < mnemoc> with pasted result 17:54 < mnemoc> i'll see on trunk now 17:56 < mnemoc> # svn pget svn:externals ../t2-2.1/target/ | svn pset svn:externals -F - target/ 17:56 < mnemoc> svn: Reading from stdin is currently broken, so disabled 17:56 < mnemoc> snif snif 17:57 < mnemoc> # svn pget svn:externals ../t2-2.1/target/ | svn pset svn:externals -F /dev/stdin target/ 17:57 < mnemoc> property 'svn:externals' set on 'target' 17:57 < mnemoc> yeah yeah 17:57 < mnemoc> long life to lazyness! 17:57 < mnemoc> yeah yeah 17:58 < morfoh> :) 17:59 < morfoh> property 'svn:externals' set on 'target' <-- thanks Mr. Lazyness ;) 18:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I think it works here 18:01 < rxr> have you rebuild sed ? 18:01 < mnemoc> # svn pget svn:externals target/ | sed '/^$/d;' | wc -l 18:01 < mnemoc> 6 18:01 < mnemoc> rxr: yes 18:02 < mnemoc> i'll start the same build on trunk to compare 18:02 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eD5agq71.html <--- did you see start.o thing on top? 18:03 * mnemoc doing stress testing over t2's dietlibc integration :p 18:05 < rxr> I rebuild and trest 18:05 < rxr> == 01/04/06 19:04:11 =[5]=> Finished building package kdebase. 18:05 < rxr> ah no 18:05 < rxr> missed that 18:08 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF4BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:08 < mnemoc> wb nzg 18:10 < nzg> thx mnemoc 18:10 < nzg> moin 18:10 < rxr> cool 18:10 < rxr> konqueror works .. 18:10 < morfoh> moin nzg 18:10 < rxr> on ppc64 ... 18:10 < rxr> in contrast to segfaulting mozilla and not compiling firefox ... 18:11 < rxr> not to mention I even hat to patch mozilla not to try assembling x86 assembly ... 18:17 < rxr> damn, how good a really browser feels under the fingertips .. 18:17 < mnemoc> :) 18:17 < rxr> some dasys without any and some more on links -g make you consider killing for one ... 18:17 < mnemoc> links -g is better tahn dillo :) 18:18 < rxr> not when it has major graphic glitches due 64bit or big endian ... 18:18 < rxr> ... or both at once 18:18 < rxr> mnemoc: sed works now 18:18 < mnemoc> now? 18:18 < rxr> rebuild .. 18:18 < rxr> that is last commit did it ... 18:18 < mnemoc> i have done that 18:18 < rxr> $ sed --version 18:18 < rxr> GNU sed version 4.1.4 18:18 < mnemoc> last ocmmit last commit... 18:19 < mnemoc> PKGFILE_TYPEs? 18:19 < mnemoc> # sed --version 18:19 < mnemoc> GNU sed version 4.1.4 18:20 < mnemoc> # ls -1 | sed 's,^d,f,g' 18:20 < mnemoc> sed: -e expression #1, char 8: Memory exhausted 18:20 < mnemoc> with MALLOC_ZERO revision on dietlibc 18:20 < rxr> $ ls -1 | sed 's,^d,f,g' 18:20 < rxr> rene 18:20 < rxr> vol1 18:20 < rxr> vol2 18:20 < mnemoc> :( 18:21 < rxr> feel like paste your dietlibc log ? 18:21 < mnemoc> 1-dietlibc.log ? 18:21 < rxr> ack 18:21 < mnemoc> minute 18:21 < rxr> maybe some WANT_MALLOC_ZERO redefined ... 18:21 < rxr> # ./scripts/Config -nobashmod 18:21 < rxr> Creating configuration script. 18:21 < rxr> T2 2.2.0-alpha configuration ... 18:21 < rxr> unknown returncode: 127 18:22 < rxr> ouhm 18:22 < rxr> but I won't hunt that now 18:22 < mnemoc> 0.28-0.29 has nothing related 18:22 < rxr> weee 18:23 * rxr in a Config of a full diet system ... 18:23 < rxr> even crossbuilt ... 18:23 < rxr> I even tweaked gcc specs file to use dietlibc by default ... ,-) 18:23 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/1-dietlibc.log.txt 18:24 < karasz> damn this is takin' long... 18:24 < mnemoc> gcc specs file.... wasn't that prohibit by mr. core architect? 18:26 < rxr> hm 18:26 < rxr> you log looks good 18:26 < mnemoc> yep 18:26 < mnemoc> == 15:25:57 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.29 2.2.0-alpha]. <--- same config 18:27 * rxr trying to build subversion with system dietlibc manually ... 18:29 < mnemoc> == 15:28:17 =[1]=> Building perl/perl [5.8.7 2.2.0-alpha]. /me praying 18:30 < rxr> configure went thru on the diet only box ... 18:30 < morfoh> == 19:27:58 =[1]=> Building perl/perl [5.8.7 2.2.0-alpha]. 18:30 < rxr> let's see if dietlibc is mature enough for svn and the gcc on diet stable enough to survive it all 18:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think perl will build 18:31 * mnemoc prefer pure Build-Target instead of nasty emerges 18:31 < mnemoc> == 01/04/06 15:30:38 =[1]=> Aborted building package perl. 18:31 < morfoh> :/ 18:31 < morfoh> == 01/04/06 19:30:20 =[1]=> Aborted building package perl. 18:32 < mnemoc> same time to fail :) 18:32 < morfoh> allmost :) 18:33 < mnemoc> what mess was jsaw doing on 1-perl? 18:33 < morfoh> reentr.h:84:26: error: crypt.h: No such file or directory 18:34 < mnemoc> good, our dietlibc doesn't have crypt.h 18:37 < rxr> subversion building .... and building ... 18:37 < rxr> oh 18:37 < rxr> stop 18:38 < rxr> hm - neon config.h not found ... 18:39 < mnemoc> found. perl is a lier 18:40 < mnemoc> lib64? 18:40 < mnemoc> ehm, no... ignore that 18:51 < CIA-1> rene * r14484 /trunk/package/base/ (dietlibc/parse-config-9 file/file.desc): 18:51 < CIA-1> * added file to the BSD compat section of dietlibc and marked it 18:51 < CIA-1> DIETLIBC 18:52 < mnemoc> rxr: does perl build on your dietlibc? 18:53 < rxr> no ide - I fight other stuff 18:54 < rxr> idea 18:54 < mnemoc> can linux be built without perl these days? 18:54 < mipe> huh, i guess laptop works now, after cleaning up the gfx cooler from dust :) 18:55 < mnemoc> ehm 18:55 < mipe> was enough dust to block it from spinning 18:55 < mnemoc> dirty mipe 18:58 < mipe> mnemoc: something to test, svn commit segfaults on 2.1.1 18:58 < rxr> maybe x86-64 only 18:58 < mipe> mnemoc:tryed to rebuild svn and deps from 2.1 branch but didnt help 18:58 < mipe> or just my host only 18:59 < mnemoc> strace ? 19:00 < mipe> i could run it through strace and post the output somewhere... 19:01 < mnemoc> yep 19:02 < mnemoc> rxr: perl's Configure check host to know what is installed, it see crypt.h on host... (cross)compiler doesn't 19:02 < mnemoc> rxr: sugestions? 19:02 < rxr> yeah - such stuff is dirty ... 19:02 < rxr> aside hacking configure not too much suggestions ... 19:04 < mnemoc> to look at $root or $root/TOOLCHAIN/$toolsdir ? 19:04 < mnemoc> (1-perl) 19:04 < rxr> depends how the configure is hacked if it can be guided 19:04 < rxr> otherwise some generic mechanism need to be added to force it ... 19:06 < mipe> mnemoc: http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/strace-svn.log 19:07 < mipe> looks like some memory issues 19:07 < mnemoc> perl's Configure is far^3 uglier than conf-* and install.c 19:08 < mipe> so 1001 builds total, 529 completed fine, 2 with errors. 19:09 < mipe> trunk desktop x64 19:09 < mnemoc> usrinc! 19:09 < mipe> but have to switch to bloody thesis work... till tomorrow 19:09 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 19:12 < mnemoc> rxr: libpth="/usr/local/${libdir##*/} /${libdir##*/} /usr/${libdir##*/}" <--- why no $root ? 19:13 < rxr> oehm 19:13 < rxr> do not remeber off hand 19:14 < rxr> when we continue at this pace we will have a dietlibc only system not at christmas 2006 but cebit ... 19:14 < mnemoc> :D 19:15 < mnemoc> who planned it for xmas 2006? 19:16 < rxr> my estimation some days ago ... 19:17 < CIA-1> rene * r14485 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: 19:17 < CIA-1> * added automake and libtool to stage 0 of embedded, we need 19:17 < CIA-1> those for certain broken packages that have a *-QUIRK mark 19:17 < CIA-1> * added file, diffutils, mktemp and time to embedded, just builds with 19:17 < CIA-1> dietlibc and handy if the resulting system is used for development 19:23 < mnemoc> rxr: any know reason to not use -Dusecrosscompile=yes on 1-perl? 19:23 < rxr> nope 19:23 < rxr> the reson is that I did not spend a day to research this braindamge .. 19:23 < rxr> I only hacked it only it build for our usual bootstrap 19:24 < mnemoc> :) 19:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: did -Dusecrosscompile=yes on 1-perl worked ? 19:25 < rxr> so - let see if my diet gcc builds libxml ... 19:25 < rxr> where I removed a big chunk of C++ prerocessor checks I do not have and libxml does not seem to need ... 19:25 < mnemoc> morfoh: not yet 19:25 < mnemoc> Targethost not defined. 19:25 < mnemoc> Cannot continue, aborting. 19:26 < CIA-1> rene * r14486 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * makred zile DIETLIBC, just builds 19:27 < mnemoc> as good software should always do 19:32 < mnemoc> ehm... we don't want -Dusecrosscompile=yes, it connects to a remote machine to do the job! 19:33 < morfoh> what ? 19:33 < mnemoc> and you said djb-style was ugly 19:33 < mnemoc> 2709 case "$targetrun" in 19:33 < mnemoc> 2710 '') targetrun=ssh ;; 19:34 < mnemoc> 2755 $targetrun -l $targetuser $targethost "cd \$cwd && ./\$exe \$@" 19:34 < mnemoc> you don't want to see the rest 19:36 < madtux> yes he does 19:36 < mnemoc> hi madtux 19:36 < morfoh> hola madtux ;) 19:37 < owl> /nick ice-owl 19:37 < owl> hi 19:37 < morfoh> hi owl ... seems your hands are that frozen that you can't type anymore :) 19:37 -!- YeT2 [n=perdiT2@i53878831.versanet.de] has joined #t2 19:38 < YeT2> hi 19:38 < owl> nah. just to lazy to rename and rename agin ;) 19:38 < owl> hi morfoh ;) 19:38 < karasz> hi owl 19:38 < owl> hi YeT2 19:38 < owl> hi karasz *g* 19:38 < mnemoc> hi frigid-owl 19:38 < mnemoc> hi YeT2 19:38 < karasz> *g* ? 19:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: uhhhhh ... what a nice way to say hello 19:38 < owl> hi mnemoc :) 19:38 < owl> *g* because of multi-hi 19:39 < madtux> greetings freaks. 19:39 < karasz> err... 19:39 < owl> hi madtux :) 19:39 < madtux> i'm original :) 19:39 < karasz> hi madtux 19:39 * karasz hides 19:39 < YeT2> i joined just in time 19:40 < jsaw> ls 19:40 < jsaw> ups.... 19:40 < jsaw> :) 19:40 < madtux> bash: ls: command not found 19:40 < YeT2> you mean dir :) 19:40 < jsaw> hehe 19:40 < mnemoc> madtux's box doesn't have 'ls' :) 19:41 < madtux> mnemoc, scrollback :) 19:41 < YeT2> what for ... i from my side know everything "by heart" 19:42 < madtux> YeT2, by heart huh? 19:42 < madtux> :) 19:42 < YeT2> mnemoc can confirm ... my questions are much less now (FOR THE MOMENT!) 19:43 < mnemoc> o.o 19:46 < rxr> Wine 0.9.5 19:46 < mnemoc> CIA? 19:49 < rxr> not commited - just pasted from my shiny new konqueror ... 19:49 < mnemoc> :) 19:49 < rxr> GLib 2.8.5 19:49 < rxr> Tor 0.1.0.16 19:51 < mnemoc> how can someone write such a pathetic configure script... (perl) 19:54 < mnemoc> 21 # $Id: Head.U,v 3.0.1.9 1997/02/28 15:02:09 ram Exp $ 19:54 < mnemoc> 22 # 19:54 < mnemoc> 23 # Generated on Mon Apr 11 12:33:25 CEST 2005 [metaconfig 3.0 PL70] 19:54 < mnemoc> 24 # (with additional metaconfig patches by perlbug@perl.org) 19:55 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14487 /trunk/package/base/ (pam/etc_pamd_system-auth.txt shadow/shadow.conf): 19:55 < CIA-1> * need a correct system-auth file (or local login won't work...) 19:55 < CIA-1> -> move it to pam package 20:02 < karasz> mnemoc, 20:02 < karasz> database/bdb-java 20:02 < karasz> checking if gcj -C works... configure: error: The Java c .. 20:02 < karasz> database/bdb33-java 20:02 < karasz> checking for javac... nojavac 20:02 < karasz> !> configure: error: no javac compiler in PATH 20:02 < karasz> another 2 packages failed :D 20:03 < mnemoc> expectable considering kaffe doesn't build on x86-64 20:03 < karasz> boot target failed also at bash 20:03 < mnemoc> ? 20:03 < karasz> == 22:53:04 =[3]=> Building shells/bash [3.0 2.1-stable]. 20:03 < karasz> -> Parallel build using 6 jobs enabled. 20:03 < karasz> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 4.76% cache hits so far. 20:03 < karasz> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 20:03 < karasz> -> Preparing build in src.bash.boot.20060104.225302.11579.karasz 20:03 < karasz> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/3-bash.out 20:03 < karasz> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 85.43% (170 hits, 29 misses) 20:03 < karasz> -> Cleaning up ccache ... 20:03 < karasz> !> gcc -c -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../lib -I../../include .. 20:03 < karasz> !> rm -f libsh.a 20:03 < karasz> !> ar cr libsh.a clktck.o clock.o getenv.o oslib.o setlineb .. 20:04 < karasz> !> test -n "ranlib" && ranlib libsh.a 20:04 < karasz> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.bash.boot.200 .. 20:04 < karasz> !> Due to previous errors, no 3-bash.log file! 20:04 < karasz> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins .. 20:04 < karasz> -> $root/var/adm/logs/3-bash.out -> 3-bash.err 20:04 < karasz> == 01/04/06 22:54:54 =[3]=> Aborted building package bash. 20:04 < karasz> -> Unmounting loop mounts ... 20:04 < karasz> regression in a moment 20:04 < mnemoc> uhm 20:05 < CIA-1> rene * r14488 /trunk/package/ (base/dietlibc/parse-config-9 textproc/libxml/libxml.desc): * added libxml to the BSD compat section of dietlibc and marked libxml 20:06 < karasz> hmmm why takes so long to regression? 20:07 < rxr> so - xine on the ppc64, now I only need support for the sound hardware to make me less productive ... 20:07 < mnemoc> :) 20:07 < rxr> oh and kmail as well 20:07 < rxr> guess I can start creating a rene account now ... ,-) 20:08 < rxr> hm 20:08 < rxr> when we hack subversion to crosss build we could provide a static client for all t2 arches as weeks regression test ... 20:09 < karasz> still not finished the regression.... 20:09 < karasz> ok 20:10 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/boot/regressions.html 20:11 < karasz> hmmm rm mbutil.o then tryin to ar cr ... mbutil.o 20:13 < karasz> but wait a minute 20:13 < karasz> in desktop target bash built fine... 20:13 < karasz> O_0 20:14 < mnemoc> in everywhere bash build fine, but your boot 20:14 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:14 < mnemoc> rebuild it 20:14 < mnemoc> wb misl 20:14 < rxr> hi misl 20:14 < karasz> but how is my boot diferrent? 20:15 < karasz> create-errlist ...-remove bash? 20:15 < karasz> then build? 20:15 < misl> hi folks 20:15 < CIA-1> rene * r14489 /trunk/package/base/ (automake/parse-config libtool/parse-config): * fixed AUTOMAKE-QUIRK code and cleaned LIBTOOL-QUIRK accordingly 20:15 < karasz> and why should bash build then? 20:15 < rxr> paralle issue ? 20:15 < karasz> hello minto 20:15 < rxr> l 20:15 < karasz> me rxr? 20:16 < rxr> karasz: yes 20:16 < mnemoc> karasz: -job 3-bash 20:16 < rxr> try if it builds on a second run - if so it is due PARALLEL or sop 20:16 < karasz> i check if i have bash marked noparallel 20:16 < karasz> mnemoc, ????? 20:16 < mnemoc> at this step we will have to change NOPARALLEL flag with PARALLEL 20:16 < karasz> -job 3-bash? 20:16 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg boot -job 3-bash 20:17 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 20:17 < mnemoc> rxr: ? 20:18 < rxr> 20:16 < mnemoc> at this step we will have to change NOPARALLEL flag with 20:18 < rxr> PARALLEL 20:18 < karasz> what does -job do? 20:18 -!- YeT2 [n=perdiT2@i53878831.versanet.de] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"] 20:18 < rxr> karasz: build a specific job now 20:18 < mnemoc> rxr: the amount of NOPARALLEL % on large packages 20:18 < rxr> $stagelevel-$pkg 20:19 < rxr> mnemoc: I find the amount reasonable ... 20:19 < mnemoc> wth 1-perl builds on 2.1 but not on 2.2 on the same cross-compiling context 20:20 < rxr> the ones we know are broken could be fixed in the future ... 20:20 < mnemoc> yes, i know... it was a joke 20:20 < rxr> ouhm 20:20 < rxr> it is too cold here to get your hot jokes .. 20:21 < mnemoc> :) 20:21 < CIA-1> rene * r14490 /trunk/package/network/neon/neon.desc: * marked neon DIETLIBC - just builds 20:21 < karasz> 01/04/06 23:14:25 =[3]=> Finished building package bash. 20:21 < karasz> should i relaunch target build? 20:21 < rxr> ack 20:21 < mnemoc> wow, diff between perl.conf at 2.1 and 2.2 is important 20:22 < mnemoc> so it was a parallelism issue 20:22 < karasz> maybe 20:22 < karasz> should i relaunch target build? 20:22 < rxr> [F] DIETLIBC NOPARALLEL 20:22 < rxr> on trunk bash already is NOPARALLEL 20:22 < rxr> on 2.1 not ? 20:23 < mnemoc> you marked it on 3.1 iirc 20:23 < mnemoc> but i'll merge 20:23 < mnemoc> rxr: i think the whole issue is the removal of perl_cross_bootstrap 20:23 < rxr> removal ? 20:24 < rxr> I think it was introduced on trunk, no ? 20:24 < rxr> so absense in 2.1 ... 20:24 < jsaw> re 20:24 < mnemoc> oh, true.... wrong diff 20:24 < mnemoc> so it's add 20:24 * mnemoc stunned 20:25 < CIA-1> rene * r14491 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: 20:25 < CIA-1> * added zile to embedded, to have an emacs a-like editor for the other 20:25 < CIA-1> half of the world and elvis-tiny as a static edit buffer of 500kB, 20:25 < CIA-1> zile has either a dynamic or it is just much bigger 20:26 < mnemoc> aaaah! .... i can't find it :\ 20:27 < rxr> mnemoc: find ? 20:28 < mnemoc> the source of the difference 20:29 < mnemoc> it builds perfect on 2.1, but it's big pain on 2.2 20:29 < rxr> ouh 20:30 < mnemoc> i can't find why on 2.1 doesn't look for includes on host 20:30 < rxr> what do you try right now ? 20:30 < rxr> corss build dietperl or what was it ? 20:30 < mnemoc> pass 1-perl on _native_ dietlibc minimal at trunk 20:30 < rxr> mnemoc: you have installed a dietlibc (in a vserver or so) and want to build? 20:31 < rxr> or glibc host and just normal dietlibc based build ? 20:31 < mnemoc> no 20:31 < mnemoc> yes 20:31 < karasz> but mnemoc when i make my isos should i care about those java packages? 20:31 < mnemoc> karasz: no 20:31 < karasz> so i do not have to do anything about them? 20:31 < karasz> like remove from iso.txt or some? 20:32 < mnemoc> karasz: uhm... i would just ignore them 20:32 < rxr> pure diet libc system is quite promissing, more stable than 64bit user-space on sparc64 ... 20:32 < karasz> in the end i do not really need java 20:32 < rxr> karasz: do you build desktop ? 20:32 < karasz> yes 20:32 < karasz> 2.1.0 desktop 20:32 < rxr> desktop has no commercial jave packages 20:33 < karasz> or is 2.1.1? 20:33 < rxr> what do you worry about ? 20:33 < rxr> java-dirtree ? 20:33 < karasz> i am not worried, just wondering if my cd's will be usable... 20:33 < rxr> other java bits like jikes, gcj or kaffe ar efree ... 20:34 < karasz> rxr i do not need java at all 20:34 < rxr> karasz: well then disable some more packages 20:34 < karasz> maybe just the plugin for firefox... 20:34 < rxr> but the desktop does not incldue java bits that are non-free ... 20:34 < karasz> nah 20:34 < karasz> let them build 20:34 < rxr> at least not if mnemoc has not messed it up ... 20:34 < karasz> i have time now... 20:34 < mnemoc> just kaffe 20:34 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:34 < karasz> and patience :D 20:35 < karasz> maybe i will provide some unknown info about some breakage... 20:35 < mnemoc> i failed concurrent programming last year because i refused to install sun-java 20:35 < rxr> ouh 20:36 < karasz> in the end, more builds means more knowledge for everyone, doen't it? 20:37 < rxr> yep testing more is always better 20:38 < mnemoc> every machine is different 20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: I failed uni because I refused to waste too much time on crap and too much on rock linux and later t2 and other commercial work ... 20:40 < mnemoc> i still have the hope of returning university some day.... i have 6y approved, only 1 left :( 20:40 < mnemoc> but it's too expensive 20:40 < karasz> mnemoc, do you care to explai the last part of hook_add inmake 5 "$CC -o $bindir/text2pdf $( match_source_file -p text2pdf )" 20:40 < karasz> ? 20:40 < rxr> but this time I install Adobe products for my design study to experience how crappy they are and why I won't spent kEUR on this stuff when I have better open source around that I even can debug on a issue ... 20:41 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 20:41 < mnemoc> karasz: it returns the location on download/ of the entries matching 'text2pdf' on [D] fields of your .desc 20:41 < rxr> .oO 20:41 < rxr> I fear dietlibc misses too much pthread stuff ... 20:41 < karasz> hmm 20:41 < karasz> why does it have to do that? 20:42 < karasz> wait 20:42 < karasz> i get it 20:42 < rxr> to compile the downloaded file 20:42 < karasz> ok 20:42 < karasz> ok 20:42 -!- YeT2 [n=root@i53878831.versanet.de] has joined #t2 20:42 < karasz> i got it in the end 20:42 < karasz> but my fingers were more rapid than my brain 20:43 < rxr> nah ! dietlibc has it - strike 20:43 < CIA-1> aldas * r14492 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/ (postfix.conf postfix.desc postfix.init postsysfiles.in): * updated postfix (2.2.7 -> 2.2.8) 20:43 < karasz> so "$CC -o $bindir/text2pdf $( match_source_file -p text2pdf )" is clear, it is only the command to compile 20:43 < karasz> hook_add inmake 5? 20:44 < karasz> 5 is the stage? 20:44 < mnemoc> the build process has many 'hooks' 20:44 < mnemoc> inmake is between make all and make install 20:44 < karasz> one is `inmake`? 20:44 < mnemoc> yes 20:44 < karasz> make all does not include install? 20:44 < karasz> ofcourse not 20:44 < mnemoc> and 5 is just a 'middle' for the list of actions to run on 'inmake' 20:45 < karasz> ahm 20:45 < rxr> wow - the first static dietsvn binaries start to materialize 20:47 < karasz> where can i find thoose hooks? 20:47 < mnemoc> scripts/functions.in 20:47 < rxr> 1507444 Jan 4 20:47 sv 20:48 < rxr> `- now that is a fat binary ... 20:48 < CIA-1> aldas * r14493 /trunk/package/network/mod_security/ (mod_security.conf mod_security.desc): * updated mod_security (1.8.7 -> 1.9.1) 20:48 < mnemoc> rxr: static? 20:49 < rxr> dietlibc static 20:49 < rxr> all inclusive 20:49 < rxr> and not functional 20:49 < mnemoc> *G* 20:49 < rxr> # ./svn 20:49 < rxr> svn: error: cannot set LC_ALL locale 20:49 < rxr> svn: error: environment variable LANG is not set 20:49 < rxr> svn: error: please check that your locale name is correct 20:49 < misl> mnemoc: have you tried building the latest kaffe on noisy? Seems like the dual processor issues is solved. I unfortunately lack the time to give it a spin :( 20:50 < rxr> misl: what is the power on time of noisy currently, up at night or down? 20:50 < misl> at night down 20:50 < rxr> btw. have I wished a happy new year to you and your family alread ? 20:51 < mnemoc> misl: i'm waiting for rc1, planned for tonight 20:51 < rxr> have new year over there if I missed it so far ,-)! 20:51 < misl> :) 20:51 < mnemoc> misl: --with-system-zlib and --with-fastjar 20:51 < misl> mnemoc: ooehh, exiting 20:51 < mnemoc> promising :) 20:51 < CIA-1> aldas * r14494 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/ (5 files): * updated postgresql (8.0.4 -> 8.0.5) 20:51 < misl> rxr: noisy is on from about 7:30 till about 19:30 20:52 < misl> CET that is. 20:52 < misl> exiting = exciting 20:52 < misl> hehe, funny typeo 20:53 < misl> hmm :( another one 20:53 < karasz> Baldzius, .... 20:54 < Baldzius> a? 20:54 < mnemoc> misl: i undertood it :) 20:55 < misl> rxr: we mentioned this new year already. :) However I wish you and all t2-ers a happy and prosperous new year 20:55 < misl> hehe: undertood == undertoad? 20:55 < mnemoc> :) 20:55 < rxr> misl: all fine on your side ? 20:56 < misl> seems like this year in the year of the broken keyboards :) 20:56 < misl> rxr: no I am overworked 20:56 < mnemoc> rebel fingers 20:56 < rxr> misl: oh :-( 20:56 < misl> mnemoc: always blame something or someone else :) 20:56 < rxr> # ./svn 20:56 < rxr> Type 'svn help' for usage. 20:57 < rxr> # svn st 20:57 < rxr> Segmentation fault 20:57 < rxr> well, ok 20:57 < misl> ahh, stupid me, you blamed your fingers. 20:57 < rxr> not reallyready 20:57 < mnemoc> neon? 20:57 < rxr> # svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/hotplug++/trunk hotplug++-trunk 20:57 < rxr> Segmentation fault 20:57 < rxr> hm 20:58 < rxr> ok 20:58 < rxr> -ENOCARE for now ... 20:58 < rxr> mnemoc: dietsvn ... 20:58 < mnemoc> :) 20:58 < misl> rxr: overworking is not really a problem. The old project will soon be finished. But the new one is waiting in line already. 20:58 < rxr> misl: nice, money for the living wise ,-) 20:59 < misl> :) 20:59 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:59 < misl> I am off to bed now. 21:00 < misl> sleep well all. 21:00 < Baldzius> gn8 misl :) 21:00 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:00 < Baldzius> karasz ... ? 21:00 < rxr> /we off into bed as well 21:00 < Baldzius> :) 21:00 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr :) 21:01 < karasz> Baldzius, why 8.0.5? 21:01 < karasz> cu rxr? 21:01 < CIA-1> rene * r14495 /trunk/package/develop/ (apr/apr.desc subversion/subversion.desc): 21:01 < CIA-1> * marked apr and subversion DIETLIBC, they build for me, manually - 21:01 < CIA-1> though svn segfaulted 21:01 < Baldzius> karasz, you supposed to see 8.1.1 ? 21:01 < karasz> yup :D 21:02 < karasz> it is trunk isn't it... 21:02 < karasz> anyway 8.1.1 was on my todo 21:02 < Baldzius> i'am preparing here masive BASE update like apache 2.2 subversion 1.3.0 mysql 5.0.18 postgresql 8.1.1 and so on ...... 21:02 < karasz> cause i have a slightly different view on postgresql than mnemoc 21:03 < morfoh> karasz: but it's nice from Baldzius doing so because it's better for the stable tree maintainer ;) 21:03 < karasz> morfoh, ? 21:04 < mnemoc> what's my view on postgresql? 21:04 < morfoh> merging packages 21:04 < karasz> i explained to you sometimes that i am not very happy with that sysvinit script 21:04 < mnemoc> merging what? 21:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: nothing 21:05 < Baldzius> :) 21:05 < mnemoc> karasz: i don't give a sh* about .init files, they suck by design 21:05 < karasz> i know that mnemoc 21:05 < karasz> but some people still use it... :D 21:05 < mnemoc> and when i get time i'll remove them all 21:06 < karasz> replacing with what? 21:06 < karasz> runit? 21:06 < mnemoc> some multi-init declaration format 21:06 < mnemoc> aka 'tail' 21:06 < morfoh> karasz: I just said that it is nice from Baldzius doing updates in small steps even if there are more recent versions out there, because it will ease the process of merging and testing the package on a stable tree 21:07 < karasz> ack morfoh 21:07 < mnemoc> eyah 21:07 < mnemoc> yeah 21:07 < morfoh> now I shut up :p 21:08 < mnemoc> good 21:08 < Baldzius> :))))))))))) 21:08 < mnemoc> *g* 21:09 < mnemoc> Baldzius is a well trained updater :) 21:09 < karasz> o.o 21:09 < mnemoc> karasz... i'm waiting for his firsts commit 21:09 < Baldzius> thanks ;) 21:09 < karasz> karasz... i'm waiting for his firsts commit ? 21:09 < karasz> Baldzius's? 21:10 < mnemoc> karasz's 21:10 < karasz> i think he jhas some already 21:10 < karasz> patience mnemoc 21:10 < karasz> small steps :D 21:10 < karasz> as you (and usualy I) like it 21:11 < mnemoc> yes, you can fix typos on .desc files at the beginning :) 21:11 < karasz> :D)) 21:12 < karasz> `nothing is too small if you are humble` 21:12 < karasz> (TM) 21:13 < mnemoc> so, i'm waiting for your first commit 21:14 < karasz> yup 21:14 < karasz> will come 21:14 < karasz> first night after i got installed 21:15 < karasz> should thoose utils go to /multimedia? 21:15 < mnemoc> .oO( what utils? )o 21:15 < karasz> they transform various images to iso files... 21:15 < karasz> nrg's, ccd's and so on to .iso 21:15 < mnemoc> ehm uhm... filesystem i guess 21:16 < karasz> i thought multimedia because cdrecord is there too... 21:16 < mnemoc> ehm 21:16 < mnemoc> i missed that 21:16 < mnemoc> i didn't know cdrecord played media 21:17 < karasz> checkin' right now 21:18 < karasz> cdrtools is in base 21:20 < rxr> cdrtools is in base 21:20 < rxr> which is wrong 21:20 < rxr> I would like to have it in filesystem or so 21:20 < mnemoc> :) 21:20 < mnemoc> openldap is at base on rock now :) 21:21 < rxr> other stuff should go out of base as welll 21:21 < rxr> rocknet -> network 21:21 < rxr> and we should open s.th. like system or hardware 21:21 < rxr> hotplug* and all the raid and so on utils should go out of base ... 21:21 < rxr> and gcc into devel, no? 21:22 < karasz> hmm desktop finished 21:22 < mnemoc> don't mix categories with repositories 21:22 < mnemoc> hardware, yes 21:22 < mnemoc> but system? what is that? 21:23 < karasz> mnemoc, regression in a minute 21:23 < karasz> :) 21:23 < karasz> i am only concerned by iptables... 21:24 < mnemoc> uhm? 21:24 < karasz> but we'll see 21:25 < YeT2> something i still cannot understand : what about rock ... or: what is the reason for the new development fork T2 21:25 < CIA-1> aldas * r14496 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/ (6 files): * updated glib (2.8.4 -> 2.8.5) 21:26 < YeT2> pls don't misunderstand me ... i like T2 ... but whats wrong with rock ? 21:26 < mnemoc> basicly missleading 21:26 < rxr> YeT2: there is a lot of reference about this on our site and the list, irc logs, ... 21:26 * rxr going to bed right now, otherwise I would even feel like repating it once again ,-) 21:26 < rxr> maybe mnemoc wants ,-) 21:27 < Baldzius> :) 21:27 < mnemoc> nah, i'm having lot of fun with 1-perl for dietlibc 21:28 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/desktop/regressions.html 21:28 < karasz> mnemoc, ... 21:28 < rxr> n8 all 21:29 < nzg> n8 rxr 21:29 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 21:29 < karasz> night rxr 21:29 < YeT2> :) ... n8 21:29 < mnemoc> karasz: mark iptables NOPARALLEL and rebuild 21:30 < karasz> in .desc 21:30 < karasz> [?] NOPARALLEL... 21:31 < mnemoc> F 21:32 < karasz> did transset arived on gsmp? 21:33 < mnemoc> i think so 21:33 < karasz> i will -remove it also... 21:33 < mnemoc> ok 21:33 < mnemoc> but no need 21:33 < mnemoc> -job is enough 21:33 < karasz> right now i accidentaly typed a regression :( 21:34 < karasz> and waitin for it to finish... 21:36 < karasz> hmmm dld -required does not download transset... 21:36 < karasz> it acts like it should not be dlded... 21:37 < mnemoc> Download transset 21:37 < mnemoc> explicitcly 21:37 < mnemoc> when using -required remember to set -cfg as first arg 21:39 < YeT2> curl and shadow only available over original url not on mirror ?! 21:40 < YeT2> ok ... i suppose not replicated yet .. 21:40 < mnemoc> if they were updated today, yes. 21:41 < karasz> mnemoc, i learned that the hard way :) 21:41 < karasz> transset built 21:41 < CIA-1> aldas * r14497 /trunk/package/database/phppgadmin/ (phppgadmin.conf phppgadmin.desc): * updated phppgadmin (3.5.6 -> 4.0.1) 21:44 < karasz> iptables too 21:44 < karasz> now transfig hopefully 21:44 < karasz> good 21:44 < karasz> transfig also 21:45 < karasz> 5 database/bdb-java 21:45 < karasz> 5 database/bdb33-java 21:45 < karasz> thoose are all that failed 21:45 < mnemoc> karasz: there is any other way? 21:45 < karasz> looks that i know no other :) 21:45 < karasz> so mnemoc 21:45 < karasz> 5 database/bdb33-java 21:45 < karasz> 5 database/bdb-java 21:45 < mnemoc> don't worry about them, or pkgsel a closed java 21:45 < karasz> pkgsel a closed java? 21:46 < karasz> dummy's please 21:46 < mnemoc> there are non-free java implementation which can be used 21:46 < mnemoc> peek one, and pkgsel it in 21:46 < mnemoc> if you want a java 21:46 < karasz> but it won't prevent me 21:46 < karasz> a good install? 21:46 < karasz> i do not want jave 21:46 < mnemoc> nope 21:47 < karasz> just for firefox 21:47 < mnemoc> that is a yes 21:47 < karasz> oki 21:47 < mnemoc> the plugin need the fully non-free java crap 21:47 < karasz> waitin for boot to finish :) 21:47 < karasz> :( 21:48 < karasz> so what should i do? 21:50 < karasz> pkgsel what package? 21:50 < mnemoc> i wont suggest any non-free java 21:51 < mnemoc> take a look into package/java 21:51 < mnemoc> and pick one jdk which support your arch 21:52 < karasz> i hate java 21:52 < mnemoc> so, ignore it 21:53 < karasz> i'll make a try wit sun thou 21:53 < karasz> jdk or jre? 21:54 < karasz> oki 21:55 < karasz> second read allways is more conclusive 21:56 < YeT2> karasz : if you intend to run apache tomcat go for jdk 1.5 (jre does not suffice) ! 21:56 < mnemoc> to build bdb-java you need a jdk too 21:57 < karasz> nice 21:57 < karasz> Downloading sun-jdk-150:download/local/j/jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-amd64.bin ... 21:57 < karasz> The file jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-amd64.bin can not be fetched automatically 21:57 < karasz> please visit: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp 21:57 < karasz> and download it manually into /root or somewhere else using -alt-dir 21:57 < karasz> please pay us a visit because we are sellin' clicks or something... 21:57 < YeT2> :) ... yeah ... very common to me tooo 22:02 < YeT2> mnemoc : there are still dependencies to sysfiles in package descriptions (eg . firmware/ipw2200) ... problem ? 22:02 < mnemoc> YeT2: sysfiles has to be always installed anyway 22:03 < YeT2> hmmm ... i understood it is split now (and blacklisted ?) 22:03 < mnemoc> YeT2: on the next .cache syncronization it may disappear 22:03 < mnemoc> YeT2: sysfiles is not emergeable, because it's too risky 22:03 < YeT2> uh.. ok then 22:04 < mnemoc> YeT2: sysfiles exists, but now new packages do part of it's previous job 22:04 < mnemoc> YeT2: mkinitrd and rocknet are packages, and rc was moved to sysvinit 22:04 < YeT2> pheeww ... (i was wondering if i had to go through fixing hell ...) 22:04 < mnemoc> YeT2: those are emergeables, and then updateable 22:05 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14498 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap/ (6 files): 22:05 < CIA-1> * add a patch that fixes x86-64 compilation 22:05 < CIA-1> * add a patch for some unitialized values (maybe send upstream?) 22:05 < CIA-1> * copyright update 22:05 < YeT2> menmoc: thx ! 22:05 < mnemoc> :) 22:05 < mnemoc> F* 1-perl! 22:05 < mnemoc> F* perl! 22:06 < mnemoc> aaaarg.... 22:07 < jsaw> somebody might want to send the uninitialized-fix.patch in bincimap upstream (I can't currently) 22:07 < mnemoc> ok, i do 22:08 < mnemoc> jsaw: and the 64bits one? 22:09 < jsaw> oh yeah, that also 22:10 < jsaw> mnemoc: the unitialized-fix is not serious as far as I can see, still it's more correct 22:14 < jsaw> btw, bincimap does the ssl on its own 22:14 < morfoh> jsaw: good to know ;) 22:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: TLS 22:14 < jsaw> now I only have to setup my own CA ... 22:15 < mnemoc> jsaw: www.cacert.org 22:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: i get my certs from there 22:16 < jsaw> how much ? 22:16 < mnemoc> 0 22:16 < jsaw> O.O 22:16 < jsaw> oh, really ? 22:16 < jsaw> but only for private use, or? 22:16 < mnemoc> of course 22:16 < mnemoc> nah 22:17 < morfoh> not restricted 22:17 < mnemoc> free world man 22:17 < morfoh> :) 22:17 < mnemoc> :) 22:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: I like it if you're sounding revolutionary ! :p 22:17 < jsaw> :) 22:17 < mnemoc> but people like morfoh still using self-signed certs 22:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: :p 22:18 < morfoh> thanks ... for the reminder :p 22:19 < jsaw> viva la revolucion... 22:19 < mnemoc> :) 22:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: but you're right ... it's a shame on my side :/ 22:19 < mnemoc> i can forgive jsaw because he didn't know it, but you..... a shame 22:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: yeah! beat me again master ... mea culpa 22:21 * mnemoc hits morfoh, again 22:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DYJwFf19.html 22:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DYJwFf19.html 22:23 < mnemoc> but i can't get f* 1-perl building! 22:23 < mnemoc> (on trunk) 22:24 < karasz> mnemoc, do i need java-dirtree? 22:24 < mnemoc> karasz: for java, yes 22:25 < karasz> for my lousy firefox plugin... 22:25 < mnemoc> yes 22:25 < karasz> nice 22:25 < karasz> now i remembered why i hate java 22:30 < karasz> hmmm 22:31 < karasz> now i see that i do not have firefox selected nor konqueror... 22:31 < mnemoc> jsaw: mail sent 22:31 < jsaw> :) 22:31 < jsaw> click 22:31 < morfoh> cu later ... have to reboot 22:31 < karasz> konqueror is in some other package? 22:31 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF73E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 22:32 < mnemoc> karasz: kdebloat 22:32 < karasz> ? 22:33 < karasz> i grepped through /logs... 22:33 < karasz> no 5-konqueror.log 22:34 < mnemoc> kdebase 22:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: strace from segfault? 22:34 < mnemoc> i'm trying to find the line first :) 22:34 < mnemoc> Re-running configuration: 22:34 < mnemoc> -> Creating configuration script. 22:34 < mnemoc> -> T2 2.1-stable configuration ... 22:34 < mnemoc> -> Building src/config_helper.so. 22:34 < mnemoc> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-t2-linux-gnudietlibc/3.4.4/../../../../i686-t2-linux-gnudietlibc/bin/ld: start.o: No such file: No such file or directory 22:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: things I don't like are the implicit function declarations 22:34 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 22:34 < mnemoc> ^--- these from rebuilds is also fun 22:34 < mnemoc> this* 22:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: which implicit function declarations? 22:35 < jsaw> strchnul 22:35 < jsaw> basename 22:35 < jsaw> and get_current_dir_name 22:35 < jsaw> looks like gnu extensions 22:36 < mnemoc> and senseless 22:36 < mnemoc> +++ ccache -M 1000M 22:36 < mnemoc> Segmentation fault 22:37 < jsaw> basename is POSIX 22:37 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF73E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:37 < jsaw> get_current_ is GNU ext 22:37 < morfoh> hell 22:37 < jsaw> and there's not even a man page for strchrnul 22:38 < mnemoc> debian has to have one :) 22:38 < morfoh> seems my machine is "laming" :/ 22:38 < mnemoc> as the owner 22:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course :/ 22:40 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'll change the fl_wrapper now 22:41 < mnemoc> thanks 22:41 < jsaw> ********GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH********* 22:41 < jsaw> when I see sprintf without length check, my eyes start hurting 22:42 < mnemoc> :D 22:42 < jsaw> ah, not even PATH_MAX is used 22:44 < mnemoc> chars economy 22:44 < mnemoc> ==[apply_patchfiles:674 (last $?=1)> patch -bfp1 -z .orig 22:44 < mnemoc> Segmentation fault 22:44 < mnemoc> yucj 22:44 < mnemoc> yuck 22:44 < jsaw> furuncles growing on my eyes 22:44 < mnemoc> :) 22:47 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.223] has joined #t2 22:55 < jsaw> more furuncles growing on my eyes 22:57 < karasz> burn them jsaw 22:57 < karasz> :) 22:57 * jsaw renames fl_wrapper to furuncle_wrapper 22:57 < jsaw> and burnes it 22:57 < jsaw> -e 22:58 < mnemoc> :D 22:58 < mnemoc> yuck, no strace for dietlibc :( 23:02 < CIA-1> aldas * r14499 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/ (evolution.conf evolution.desc): * updated evolution (2.4.2 -> 2.4.2.1) 23:04 < YeT2> mnemoc: still having trouble with 1-perl ? ... anything special with your target ? ... just built on trunk with pentium M opt ! 23:05 < morfoh> YeT2: mnemoc is trying to build on a dietlibc based target 23:05 < YeT2> ahh yess ... now i understand :) 23:13 < morfoh> 27658301 <-- nice size for a linux kernel image :p 23:13 < jsaw> O.O 23:13 < morfoh> 2680040 <-- after stripping it :p 23:13 < jsaw> ... 23:14 < morfoh> usermode linux kernel 23:14 < karasz> -> Forgotten packages summary: 23:14 < karasz> !> `- glibc32 23:14 < karasz> is it good or bad? 23:14 < karasz> -> `- Extracting glibc.tar.bz2 ... 23:14 < karasz> !> `- Not found in $package_map: glibc32 23:14 < karasz> !> ... fix target/bootdisk/build_stage2.sh 23:14 < karasz> ?? 23:14 < karasz> mnemoc 23:16 < CIA-1> aldas * r14500 /trunk/package/gnome2/gob/gob.desc: * updated gob (2.0.12 -> 2.0.13) 23:16 < karasz> guys... 23:17 < jsaw> you should add it... 23:17 < jsaw> but don't think it hurts for bootdisk 23:17 < jsaw> but _I_ 23:17 < karasz> more exactly...? 23:18 < jsaw> grep for "package_map" 23:18 < jsaw> in target/bootdisk/build_stage2.sh 23:18 -!- YeT2 [n=root@i53878831.versanet.de] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 23:19 -!- YeT2 [n=root@i53878831.versanet.de] has joined #t2 23:19 < karasz> i found it jsaw 23:19 < karasz> i ad a +glibc32? 23:19 < jsaw> yep 23:19 < karasz> where? 23:20 < karasz> after +glibc? 23:20 < jsaw> where ever, but that's a good place 23:21 < karasz> done 23:21 < karasz> now? 23:21 < karasz> run build again? 23:26 < karasz> [02:20:01] Creating ISO-MD5 tools ... 23:26 < karasz> make: Entering directory `/usr/src/2.1.1/src/isomd5sum' 23:26 < karasz> gcc -c -O -fPIC -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall -Werror -o implantisomd5.o implantisomd5.c 23:26 < karasz> gcc -c -O -fPIC -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall -Werror -o md5.o md5.c 23:26 < karasz> gcc -c -O -fPIC -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall -Werror -o libimplantisomd5.o libimplantisomd5.c 23:26 < karasz> cc1: warnings being treated as errors 23:26 < karasz> libimplantisomd5.c: In function 'implantISOFile': 23:26 < karasz> libimplantisomd5.c:122: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'parsepvd' differ in signedness 23:26 < karasz> libimplantisomd5.c:189: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'snprintf' differ in signedness 23:26 < karasz> libimplantisomd5.c:190: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'writeAppData' differ in signedness 23:26 < karasz> make: *** [libimplantisomd5.o] Error 1 23:26 < karasz> make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/2.1.1/src/isomd5sum' 23:28 < karasz> anyway 23:29 < karasz> i have 2 isos :D 23:29 < karasz> tomorrow is installin' day 23:29 < karasz> i hope they work... 23:29 < karasz> should i save my config, or some? 23:30 < karasz> if i want to use emerge latter? 23:30 < jsaw> karasz: are you on 2.1 ? 23:30 < karasz> now it is 22 23:30 < karasz> it will be 2.1 23:30 < jsaw> ??? 23:30 < karasz> tomorrow 23:30 < jsaw> I thought I fixed the md5 sum thing... 23:31 < YeT2> jsaw: maybe in trunk ? 23:31 < karasz> it is a 2.1 build 23:31 < karasz> my installed system is 2.2.0 -epsilon i guess... 23:31 < jsaw> oh 23:32 < jsaw> mnemoc: you have to merge the isomd5 thing from trunk for x86-64 23:34 < YeT2> karasz: you are running an installed 2.2.0-epsilon ... but building for 2.1.0 ??? special reason for this ? 23:34 < karasz> i cannot get a desktop in 2.2.0 23:36 < karasz> that is because i am a little grashopper :) 23:36 < YeT2> ahh yess ... was my problem too ... therefore i (finally after trying different hosts) am building on a Knoppix 4.02 DVD installed with checkedout trunk ! 23:37 < karasz> nah 23:37 < karasz> i wanted the real thingie 23:37 < karasz> T2 built on T2 23:38 < morfoh> VFS: Mounted root (squashfs filesystem) readonly. :) 23:38 < karasz> wakarimasen morSAN 23:38 < karasz> wakarimasen morfoh san even 23:39 < YeT2> well ... desktop is still in stage 1 ... yeah ... the real thingie ws my first attemp ... but i wanted a USB-DISK capable bootstrap system ! 23:40 < YeT2> so ... I WILL HAVE MY REAL DESKTOP SYSTEM SOON (i hope) 23:40 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-27-70.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 23:41 < YeT2> (another build is running on a gentoo ;) ) 23:42 < karasz> kore wa nani `VFS: Mounted root (squashfs filesystem) readonly. :)` morfoh san 23:43 < karasz> nanika mondai aru? 23:43 < morfoh> karasz: what ? :) 23:44 < morfoh> karasz: I just test some things ;) 23:44 < karasz> nah, i thought you don't wanna play :) 23:44 < YeT2> ok ... i am not using mIrc ! 23:45 < karasz> if you are testing morfoh then `zutto tsuzukete` 23:46 < YeT2> hmmm ... i don't speak swaheli :) 23:46 < karasz> me neider 23:46 < karasz> but i would like to... 23:47 < karasz> and YeT2 it is not swaheli 23:47 < karasz> it is japanese in romanji ;) 23:48 < YeT2> ooops ... sophisticated ! 23:48 < YeT2> so zutto tsuzukete ? 23:49 < YeT2> what does it mean ? 23:49 < karasz> keep going 23:49 < morfoh> zutto tsuzukete karasz san ... then :p 23:49 < karasz> nah enough for today 23:49 < karasz> i am waitin for my cd's to burn... 23:50 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... burn them ... :) 23:50 < karasz> but anyway arigato gozaimas morfoh san 23:51 < YeT2> f ... ? 23:51 < jsaw> can somebody check if uclibc has "strchrnul" function? 23:52 < morfoh> jsaw: mom 23:52 -!- YeT2 [n=root@i53878831.versanet.de] has quit ["Leaving..."] 23:53 < morfoh> jsaw: /usr/include/string.h 23:53 < jsaw> thx 23:54 < morfoh> jsaw: yw 23:54 < mnemoc> rehi 23:55 < morfoh> wb companero 23:55 < karasz> rehi mnemoc 23:55 < morfoh> oh! sorry ... I mean companero san! ... hei! 23:56 < karasz> even dou shiteru? 23:56 < mnemoc> :) 23:56 -!- YeT2 [n=chmo@i53878831.versanet.de] has joined #t2 23:57 < karasz> fingers crossed rebooting black-box...:) --- Log closed Thu Jan 05 00:00:33 2006