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09:02 < valentin> moin
09:43 < karasz> moin all
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10:28 < CIA-8> pfister * r14841 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: New menu structure -- more submenus
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11:11 < morfoh> moin karasz, valentin
11:11 < morfoh> moin *
11:15 < mtr> moin morfoh
11:17 < karasz> hello guys
11:17 < karasz> i finaly hacked evolution-data-server to build on stable and x86-64 :)
11:18 < jsaw> re
11:18 < karasz> oh, oh, komrad morfoh :)
11:18 < jsaw> karasz: how?
11:18 < karasz> moin jsaw
11:18 < jsaw> hi karasz :)
11:18 < karasz> 1. made a sumlink .opt/openldap/lib64 -> /opt/openldap/lib
11:19 < karasz> 2. marked evolution-data-server FPIC-QUIRK
11:19 < jsaw> ah ok, workaround...
11:19 < mtr> hi jsaw, karasz
11:19 < karasz> what is wrong with mozilla?
11:19 < jsaw> ?
11:19 < karasz> allways download fails...
11:20 < jsaw> mozilla etal are imo not 64bit clean
11:20 < karasz> ?
11:20 < rxr> re
11:20 < karasz> moin rxr
11:20 < morfoh> moin mtr :)
11:20 < rxr> jsaw: in the past mozilla worked on my x86-64 ..
11:20 < karasz> oh, oh, komrad morfoh :)
11:20 < jsaw> hi rxr, morfoh
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11:20 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
11:20 < mtr> moin rxr
11:20 < jsaw> rxr: it works, yes, but... not 100% stable
11:21 < morfoh> moin rxr
11:21 < morfoh> moin karasz-san ... hey :)
11:21 < jsaw> rxr: or maybe I should say, not as stable as I was used to it on 32bit
11:21 < LMJ> Good morning the chan
11:21 < rxr> moin LMJ
11:21 < jsaw> hi LMJ
11:22 < jsaw> 2115 builds total, 1877 completed fine, 238 with errors.
11:22 < morfoh> bonjour LMJ
11:22 < jsaw> generic/x86-64
11:22 < karasz> jsaw.. i am only interested in mozilla because download fails
11:23 < karasz> i guess it should be fixed...
11:23 < jsaw> does the download always fail?
11:23 < jsaw> is /tmp world writable?
11:24 < jsaw> enough space on /tmp?
11:24 < karasz> yes
11:24 < karasz> all is ok
11:24 < karasz> anything else works
11:24 < karasz> download allways fails...
11:24 < jsaw> hmm, then, ... rtfc and correct it ;)
11:25 < karasz> and i guess axion had the same problem some time ago
11:25 < karasz> and rtfc=?
11:25 < jsaw> read the f* code
11:27 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB...
11:27 < jsaw> sorry, should have been RTFS... ;)
11:27 < karasz> i don't think that is right
11:27 < karasz> jsaw
11:27 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB...
11:27 < karasz> i don't think that is right
11:27 < jsaw> 30446836 bytes here
11:27 < karasz> i verified now
11:27 < LMJ> hello rxr, jsaw and morfoh
11:28 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB
11:28 < LMJ> and karasz
11:28 < karasz> hello SerWou
11:28 < karasz> [ ] mozilla-1.7.11-sourc..> 04-Jan-2006 15:45 1.0M
11:29 < jsaw> o.O
11:29 < karasz> i cannot fix that...
11:29 < karasz> :D
11:29 < jsaw> karasz: path?
11:30 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1/m/
11:31 < jsaw> bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
11:31 < jsaw> perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows.
11:31 < jsaw> rxr: --^
11:32 < rxr> jsaw: some download oddity ..
11:32 < rxr> download from upstrea
11:32 * rxr regrabbing ...
11:32 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/articles/06/01/16/1052209.shtml
11:33 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03171#0
11:33 < karasz> jsaw
11:34 < jsaw> karasz: ?
11:34 < karasz> can you patch evolution-data-server?
11:34 < karasz> someone may need it...
11:35 < jsaw> karasz: I'm currently trying to find all configure scripts that use wrong hardcoded */lib paths.
11:35 < jsaw> karasz: so, yes, sooner or later...
11:35 < jsaw> rxr: oh, tippfehler im ersten Satz machen sich nicht gut...
11:36 < jsaw> rxr: (symlink)
11:36 < karasz> morfoh, have you 1 min?
11:37 < rxr> jsaw: ouhm - which one ?
11:37 < rxr> scha_ff_T ?
11:37 < jsaw> yep
11:37 < rxr> anyway, news at all
11:38 < jsaw> yeah, you're right
11:38 < karasz> btw is some way to mark packages not available for some architecture?
11:38 < rxr> [R] +- arches
11:38 < karasz> because vlc should be marked not available for x86-64
11:39 < rxr> vlc ?
11:39 < rxr> you mean due mmx assembly ß
11:39 < rxr> ?
11:39 < rxr> nah - let me fix that
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11:54 < raamcm> Hi guys
11:54 < raamcm> I am newbie in T2 project
11:55 < jsaw> hi raamcm
11:55 < raamcm> Just now only i got info about this project
11:55 < karasz> hello raamcm
11:55 < jsaw> rxr: welcome :)
11:55 < raamcm> hi jsaw
11:55 < jsaw> uups
11:55 < jsaw> raamcm: welcome ;)
11:55 < raamcm> call me raam
11:55 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14844 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: * chmod got confused here, so, omit the asterisk, it's anyway recursive
11:56 < jsaw> raamcm: auto-completion
11:56 < raamcm> jsaw i need some info
11:56 < raamcm> oh great :-)
11:56 < jsaw> go on, ask
11:57 < raamcm> in my project purpose i need linux distro
11:57 < raamcm> our own linux distro
11:57 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14845 /trunk/package/network/dhcpcd/dhcpcd.desc: * AUTOMAKE-QUIRK candidate
11:57 < raamcm> that' very small also
11:57 < raamcm> in disk usage is include 100mb
11:57 < jsaw> raamcm: maybe you want to checkout the wrt2 target...?
11:57 < jsaw> raamcm: or embedded
11:58 < raamcm> not embedded
11:58 < raamcm> i need only generic linux
11:58 < raamcm> without X stuff
11:58 < jsaw> raamcm: ah, then you use target "generic" and the package selection "minimal"
11:59 < karasz> then minimal target should be for you raamcm :)
11:59 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, wrt2 is still experimental and just intendend to work as wireless router/AP ;)
11:59 < morfoh> hi raamcm
11:59 < morfoh> karasz: ?
11:59 < raamcm> hi guys
11:59 < karasz> morfoh, i would like to fiddle with vserver
11:59 < raamcm> but how to select the minimal option
12:00 < karasz> 2.1 stable here now ;)
12:00 < raamcm> just 10 min back i saw the projedct
12:00 < raamcm> soory for spelling mistake
12:00 < karasz> raamcm, select generic and after that on package selection minimal
12:00 < owl> moin
12:00 < raamcm> oh again sorry
12:00 < jsaw> hi owlita
12:00 < raamcm> ok
12:00 < karasz> hi owlita
12:00 < morfoh> moin owl :)
12:00 < jsaw> :)
12:01 < owl> hi jsaw , karasz , morfoh ;)
12:01 < karasz> raamcm, you should read gettin started from http://www.t2-project.org
12:01 < raamcm> ok
12:01 < raamcm> I read it
12:02 < raamcm> yeah i select the generic and i gave minimal option
12:02 < raamcm> but it's going 4 router option
12:03 < karasz> ?
12:03 < karasz> raamcm, are you on trunk?
12:03 < raamcm> wht
12:03 < karasz> how did you svn?
12:03 < raamcm> no i download in tar file
12:04 < karasz> which one?
12:04 < rxr> release tarball ..
12:04 < karasz> version please...
12:04 < raamcm> t2-2.1.1.1.tar.bz2
12:04 < rxr> raamcm: what router option do you talk about ?
12:05 < rxr> select generic with minimal package seleciton should give you a few active packages to build
12:05 < raamcm> no when i give minimal option
12:05 < raamcm> ok
12:05 < rxr> the active package count is on the top
12:05 < rxr> of the Config tool
12:05 < raamcm> ok cool
12:06 < raamcm> yeah now i gave " ./scripts/Download -cfg system -required" comment
12:06 < raamcm> some packages are now downloading
12:07 < rxr> good
12:07 < rxr> raamcm: you want to build from source? there is a minimal-desktop or so for download ...
12:07 < raamcm> How much time to take build the project
12:07 < raamcm> hmm
12:07 < rxr> raamcm: what hardware ?
12:08 < raamcm> generic
12:08 < rxr> no - i mean silicon
12:08 < rxr> CPU and such ..
12:08 < rxr> to estimate the build time for you ...
12:09 < raamcm> wht r u mentioning my cpu speed
12:09 < rxr> 12:07 < raamcm> How much time to take build the project
12:09 < rxr> you wanted to know how long it build take to build it
12:10 < raamcm> hmmm :-)
12:10 < karasz> rxr i am investigating libdnet which fails on x86064
12:10 < rxr> netrunner: btw. what came to my mind last night before I felt to sleep, the difference in the ROCK Linux and T2 development is, that your patches on submaster just get "this and this sucks, go fix", on T2 I applied those patches and even fixed the few tiny things myself ...
12:11 < rxr> raamcm: on a fast Athlon* it takes half a day or so to build the minimal ...
12:12 < raamcm> half day ...?
12:12 < raamcm> :-(
12:12 < rxr> raamcm: it compiles a lot of stuff, compiler C library, kernel, ...
12:12 < rxr> raamcm: what did you expect ?
12:13 < rxr> jsaw: ifswitch [ interface profile ] | [ profile ]
12:13 < raamcm> i thought it's take some half hour
12:13 < rxr> raamcm: have you ever compiled a linux kernel ?
12:14 < raamcm> yeah already i did
12:14 < rxr> I suggest you grab the prebuilt ISO in your case ... - you appear to be too impationed to await the build ,-)
12:14 < raamcm> no rxr :-(
12:14 < raamcm> i need my own stuff
12:15 < raamcm> actually include this stuff in thttpd,php,mysql,asterisk,perl
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12:15 < Baldzius> moin
12:15 < rxr> moin Baldzius
12:15 < jsaw> rxr: ? ifswitch ?
12:15 < raamcm> that's wat
12:15 < rxr> raamcm: ,-) then have fun building ..
12:15 < karasz> hello master updater ;)
12:16 < raamcm> ok
12:16 < Baldzius> hi karasz, rxr :)
12:16 < rxr> jsaw: if{down,up} companion to quick switch network profile ?
12:16 < rxr> jsaw: that I just protype ...
12:16 < jsaw> rxr: oh, nice !!!
12:16 < raamcm> how can i include in wanted packages
12:16 < Baldzius> hi jsaw
12:17 < rxr> raamcm: package selection
12:17 < rxr> raamcm: enable the export options
12:17 < rxr> enable custom package selection
12:17 < rxr> and add, e.g.
12:17 < raamcm> ok
12:17 < rxr> X asterisk
12:17 < rxr> X ...
12:17 < rxr> those are pattern rules, X xorg/* would enable all of the xorg/ repository and so on
12:18 < rxr> the handbook has some details
12:18 < rxr> or just ask
12:18 < raamcm> hmm
12:18 < raamcm> yeah just now i download in handbook pdf
12:20 < raamcm> ok tellme about some good experience in this project
12:20 < raamcm> i like very much
12:20 < karasz> raamcm, ?
12:21 < raamcm> some good feature
12:21 < raamcm> and diff between other linux build project's
12:22 < rxr> raamcm: well, the build system as it
12:23 < raamcm> ok
12:23 < raamcm> i got it
12:23 < raamcm> This is not a general chat
12:24 < jsaw> hi Baldzius
12:25 < raamcm> rxr download is complete
12:25 < raamcm> wht i do now?
12:26 < jsaw> raamcm: well it is a general chat, but we're mostly busy working... so answers maybe a bit short. But when you ask more specific questions...
12:26 < Baldzius> jsaw: could you do me a favour? try to compile gtk-sharp2 and tell me what failure is related to, as i compiled that package 2-3 months ago with no problem
12:26 < raamcm> can i give this comment ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg system
12:26 < jsaw> raamcm: yes
12:26 < jsaw> Baldzius: I can't, because mono failed here on x86-64
12:26 < Baldzius> jsaw: :(
12:30 < raamcm> ok jsaw
12:31 < karasz> guys libdnet needs python?
12:33 < rxr> so - was phoning ..
12:34 < rxr> raamcm: the build system and extraordinary clean packages are cool
12:34 < rxr> raamcm: then the defines of the build in targets and last but not least all the supported architectures ...
12:34 < rxr> are the biggest features off hand
12:36 < raamcm> Oh is't
12:36 < rxr> # ifswitch eth1 home
12:36 < rxr> Deactivating current interfaces ...
12:36 < rxr> Interface / profile matched: eth1(susan)
12:36 < rxr> Activating specified profile/interfaces ...
12:36 < rxr> Interface / profile matched: eth1(home)
12:36 < raamcm> yeah that's stuff i want
12:36 < rxr> jsaw: I check this few lines script in ...
12:36 < rxr> improvements welcome ...
12:36 < raamcm> which arch based this project
12:37 < raamcm> debian or someother
12:37 < valentin> rxr: ifswitch == ifdown $current ; ifup $1 ?
12:37 < jsaw> raamcm: what do you mean with arch based?
12:37 < valentin> hi rxr btw
12:37 < karasz> rxr evolution-data-server needs 2 things to build on stable
12:37 < raamcm> sorry package base
12:38 < jsaw> raamcm: it's not based or anything like that on a major distro
12:38 < raamcm> ohh
12:38 < rxr> valentin: yep
12:38 < karasz> 1. made a symlink .opt/openldap/lib -> /opt/openldap/lib64
12:38 < rxr> valentin: though iterating over all active
12:38 < karasz> and marked FPIC-QUIRK
12:38 < jsaw> raamcm: we're mostly independant
12:38 < valentin> rxr: sure
12:38 < raamcm> oh yeah
12:39 < raamcm> :)
12:39 < jsaw> raamcm: if you want a package we do not have, you can easily add it, though
12:39 < raamcm> ok
12:39 < jsaw> or ask somebody to add it ;)
12:40 < raamcm> add mean
12:40 < jsaw> "add" in the sense of adding it to the build system
12:41 < jsaw> a valid package description
12:41 < raamcm> ok
12:41 < raamcm> that comment is finished
12:41 < raamcm> i give now ./scripts/Config -cfg bootdisc
12:41 < raamcm> can i do
12:42 < karasz> raamcm, that was a command not a comment ;)
12:42 < karasz> and yes you must do bootdisk too
12:42 < raamcm> oh
12:42 < raamcm> :-)
12:42 < raamcm> lol
12:42 < raamcm> sorry
12:42 < CIA-8> rene * r14846 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/ (ifswitch.sh rocknet.conf): * added ifswitch [ interface profile ] | [ profile ], a rocknet fast profile switcher
12:42 < raamcm> oh shit they some error
12:43 < karasz> error?
12:43 < raamcm> /home/root/t2-2.1.1.1/build/system-2.1.1.1-x86-generic/usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:36:26: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** [crtbeginS.o] Error 1
12:43 < raamcm> rm gcc.pod
12:43 < rxr> raamcm: you only need the bootdisk target if you want a bootable, installable cd
12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/root/t2-2.1.1.1/src.gcc.system.20060116.180436.32506.linux.internal.net/gcc-3.4.4/objdir/gcc'
12:43 < raamcm> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
12:43 < raamcm> Due to previous errors, no 0-gcc.log file!
12:43 < raamcm> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to tra
12:43 < rxr> raamcm: also T2 2.2 will not need the 2nd bootdisk thing anymore ..
12:44 < raamcm> ok
12:44 < rxr> raamcm: when this basic stuff does not build, your system lacks development headers ..
12:44 < raamcm> wht this error
12:44 < raamcm> that mean
12:44 < rxr> raamcm: your system compiler can not produce executbles for advanced stuff
12:44 < karasz> what is your host system?
12:44 < rxr> some -devel packages are missing (most probably)
12:44 < raamcm> rhel 4
12:44 < karasz> :(
12:45 < raamcm> tell me which pacakeges i need install
12:45 < raamcm> forgive my spelling mistake
12:45 < karasz> try a ./scripts/Check-Config
12:46 < raamcm> they no such file ERROR
12:46 < rxr> karasz: Check-System is part of Build-Target ...
12:46 < karasz> ok, sorry
12:46 < rxr> raamcm: we do not know foreign distributions specifica off hand
12:46 < rxr> raamcm: most probably linux-header or so
12:46 < raamcm> so wht i do now
12:47 < karasz> try to read the error log
12:47 < karasz> it should be in the build directory
12:47 < rxr> raamcm: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
12:47 < rxr> raamcm: you need that file - mostly part of linux-header or so ...
12:48 < rxr> raamcm: when you do not want to make your host system compiler friendly, best is to install a prebuild T2 minimal ...
12:48 < karasz> so you need to install linux-header.rpm
12:48 < rxr> jsaw: should we add some more diagnostics to Check-System ?
12:49 < raamcm> ok
12:49 < raamcm> linux-header rpm
12:49 < raamcm> where to i get
12:50 < karasz> on rhel distribution site
12:50 < raamcm> ru mean kernel-headers
12:50 < rxr> or install cd
12:51 < karasz> yup
12:51 < karasz> kernel-headers
12:51 < rxr> heh
12:51 < rxr> yeah
12:51 < raamcm> OK
12:52 < raamcm> now i search the cd and Repos also
12:52 < karasz> you must have it on cd iirc
12:53 < karasz> also it should be same version as your kernel
12:53 < raamcm> ok
12:53 < jsaw> rxr: where's the linux/limits.h file used?
12:53 < rxr> what was the error ? 0-gcc ?
12:53 < karasz> iirc
12:54 < jsaw> oh, PATH_MAX...
12:54 < karasz> raamcm Due to previous errors, no 0-gcc.log file!
12:54 < raamcm> i did't any error
12:54 < raamcm> this only
12:55 < CIA-8> rene * r14847 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg2/libmpeg2.desc: * libmpeg2 misses -fPIC, added FPIC-QUIRK
12:57 < raamcm> my kernel version is 2.6.9-22.0.1.EL
12:59 < rxr> karasz: strange that vlc did not fail on libmpeg2 on your side ...
13:00 < karasz> it failed
13:00 < karasz> i aded fpic
13:00 < karasz> and post it on irc
13:01 < karasz> iirc ;)
13:05 < raamcm> sorry i can't get kernle-headers rpm
13:06 < raamcm> sorry kernel-headers rpm
13:07 < raamcm> wht i do now
13:07 < raamcm> :-(
13:09 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
13:09 < sepp> moin :)
13:09 < raamcm> rxr ru there
13:10 < morfoh> moin sepp :)
13:10 < sepp> hi morfoh
13:11 < rxr> raamcm: can you post the full .err file somewhere?
13:11 < raamcm> no
13:11 < rxr> the kernel header / linux header for rhel4 must be somewhere
13:11 < raamcm> which error file
13:12 < raamcm> hmm
13:12 < sepp> maybe ask rpm.pbone.net
13:14 < raamcm> yeah i serach it
13:19 < raamcm> no i did't get
13:20 < raamcm> plz guys tell me some other solution
13:24 < raamcm> :-(
13:25 < jsaw> raamcm: maybe edit misc/tools-source/fl_wrapper.c.sh ...
13:26 < jsaw> raamcm: I'm not sure, if it is in your version, but you can remove this:
13:26 < jsaw> #ifndef PATH_MAX
13:26 < jsaw> #include
13:26 < jsaw> #endif
13:27 < raamcm> ok
13:28 < raamcm> can i add this 3 lines
13:29 < jsaw> oh, you don't have these?
13:29 < raamcm> no
13:29 < jsaw> ah, I obviously missed some lines
13:29 < jsaw> raamcm: no, the point is, that you don't have linux/limits.h
13:29 < jsaw> raamcm: but it is required somewhere during build.
13:30 < raamcm> wait 4 five minutes
13:31 < jsaw> but I'm diverted by my "normal" work...
13:33 < rxr> == 14:12:32 =[9]=> Building multimedia/vlc [0.8.4a 2.2.0-alpha].
13:33 < rxr> == 01/16/06 14:21:01 =[9]=> Finished building package vlc.
13:33 < rxr> karasz: -^ x86-64, what was your compile error ?
13:38 < karasz> rxr sorry i ran out for a bit
13:38 < karasz> what compile error?
13:39 < karasz> ah vlc?
13:39 < karasz> moment
13:40 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/36010
13:41 < karasz> btw
13:41 < karasz> libdnet needs python !!!
13:41 < rxr> strange
13:41 < rxr> you are on 2.1 right ?
13:41 < karasz> yes
13:42 < karasz> it complained abt not finding glob or some
13:42 < raamcm> i am back
13:42 < karasz> installed python then builds fine
13:42 < raamcm> jsaw what i do now
13:42 < rxr> guess that is fixed in the newer vlc ..
13:42 < rxr> -[V] 0.8.4a
13:42 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.2
13:42 < raamcm> can i add these 3 lines
13:43 < rxr> karasz: can you try building with the new vlc on 2.1 ?
13:43 < karasz> rxr vlc was helpfull or you need a complete err?
13:43 < karasz> yup
13:43 < karasz> right now
13:43 < rxr> karasz: it bilt here ..
13:43 < rxr> guess they fixed the mmx related assembly stuff for x86-64
13:43 < karasz> new vlc?
13:43 < rxr> or disabled it - whatever ..
13:43 < rxr> 13:42 < rxr> -[V] 0.8.4a
13:43 < rxr> 13:42 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.2
13:43 < rxr> trunk vs. 2.1 ...
13:43 < karasz> they did some x86-64 related stuff on 0.8.4a iirc
13:44 < rxr> karasz: whatever
13:44 < rxr> it built here ..
13:44 < rxr> (fater I marked libmpeg2 FPIC-QUIRK0
13:44 < karasz> should i change desc on my 2.1 pack?
13:44 < rxr> )
13:44 < rxr> karasz: yes
13:44 < rxr> if it builds I would commit this update to 2.1 ...
13:44 < karasz> ok
13:44 < karasz> and i schedule a libmpeg2 with fpic
13:45 < karasz> ok
13:49 < raamcm> :-(
13:50 < raamcm> rxr ru busy
13:50 < rxr> raamcm: yes, mostly
13:51 < raamcm> tell me some remedy
13:51 < sepp> raamcm: there is a rpm install gui and iirc it say "kernel development" at the bottom - i bet there you find kernel headers
13:52 < raamcm> tell me exacatly
13:53 < sepp> well, thats all i know about rh
13:59 < raamcm> can i with debian 3.1
13:59 < raamcm> that's will work with this project..?
14:00 < rxr> raamcm: all linux distributions are usable to build t2
14:00 < rxr> you just need a working compiler and some basic utilities
14:00 < rxr> Check-System checks for most of those ...
14:01 < rxr> debian should work
14:01 < rxr> but you could download and install a T2 minimal to get least trouble possible ...
14:02 < raamcm> ok
14:03 < raamcm> where to i get in minimal
14:03 < raamcm> in my pc is athlan
14:04 < raamcm> i saw only in p4 spec
14:05 < sepp> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.1/t2-minimal-2.1.1-pmmx/
14:05 < sepp> for > pentium with mmx
14:05 < raamcm> ok
14:10 < karasz> rxr what about vlc dependencies?
14:10 < karasz> will 84 do with 82 deps?
14:12 < karasz> rxr i got to go now but i will keep you posted about vlc
14:13 < rxr> karasz: ye
14:13 < rxr> karasz: ok - cu
14:15 < morfoh> rxr: can you give me a short status of the livecd ?
14:15 < morfoh> rxr: sth. to think about if I want to build a livecd ?
14:28 < mnemoc> moin
14:28 < sepp> hi mnemoc
14:29 < morfoh> moin mnemoc
14:29 < mnemoc> hi sepp, morfoh, rxr
14:29 < valentin> hi mnemoc
14:30 < valentin> whos president ?
14:30 < valentin> think the women made it
14:30 < morfoh> valentin: the women
14:30 < valentin> woman
14:30 < valentin> hi morfoh
14:30 < morfoh> valentin: sorry ... hi :)
14:30 < mnemoc> yes, 53 vs. 47
14:30 < mipe> president for what country?
14:30 < valentin> guess...
14:31 < mipe> (we had president elections also)
14:31 < mnemoc> "we showed the world how modern we are by choosing a woman for president"
14:31 < valentin> mipe: ah - yes
14:31 < sepp> mnemoc: do you paint thumbs at election day?
14:31 < mnemoc> yes
14:31 < sepp> ohh
14:31 < jsaw> cu later
14:31 < valentin> hi and cu jsaw
14:31 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
14:31 < morfoh> cu jsaw
14:31 < sepp> i saw that woman with a blue thumb on bbc ...
14:32 < valentin> mnemoc: can't you just somehow get rid of that paint and revote ?
14:32 < mnemoc> no, because you sign on your space at a book
14:33 < mnemoc> that's why you can't vote on a place different that where you are registred
14:41 < valentin> mnemoc: so why the paint at all ?
14:41 < mnemoc> legacy :p
14:42 < mnemoc> analphabets 'sign' using the stamp of their thumb
14:42 < valentin> how do they vote ? do you have photos on the bill ?
14:42 < valentin> or signs ?
14:43 < mnemoc> 1. ---- valentin
14:43 < mnemoc> 2. ------ sepp
14:43 < mnemoc> analphabets can recognize numbers
14:43 < mnemoc> before most people was analphabet, and on my desk (for example) i have only 2 of 350
14:43 < valentin> ok, having two candidates this is easy :)
14:43 < rxr> re
14:43 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
14:43 < mnemoc> yep :)
14:43 < mnemoc> moin rxr :)
14:44 < mnemoc> valentin: votes with more people are grouped by aliance with the logo
14:44 < mnemoc> and numbered inside their own aliances
14:46 < rxr> valentin: at home ?
14:46 < valentin> nope
14:46 * rxr next coffee
14:47 < valentin> had a quite strong coffee 30 minutes before *shivering*
14:49 < CIA-8> rene * r14848 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/ifswitch.sh:
14:49 < CIA-8> * fixed rocknet/ifswitch to work after reboot when the active-interfaces
14:49 < CIA-8> file does not exist
14:50 < rxr> coffee, too strong?
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14:52 < menomc> :\
14:53 < valentin> hiep created it, i think he took a canister portion for two cups
14:53 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc
14:57 < mnemoc> valentin: ? this i miss somehting?
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15:02 < mipe> these libtool quirk warnings are great :) getting quite a few from ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -system
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15:25 < rxr> bios vendor english: "Fixed bug that DMI Table issue"
15:25 < mnemoc> :)
15:26 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
15:26 < rxr> wonders if I should update the BIOS if the change info is already broken ...
15:26 < mnemoc> they could be good coding and bad in english at the same time :)
15:27 < rxr> mnemoc: I have seen enough taiwan code for my life already ...
15:28 < rxr> that bios is 4.3
15:28 < rxr> I think I have some 3.x ...
15:28 < rxr> maybe I finally shoud give that a try ...
15:30 < rxr> heh
15:30 < rxr> I have: BIOS Version : A1013AMS V3.20 06/27/05
15:30 < rxr> recent is V4.30 2006-1-10
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15:31 < rxr> I strongly vote for a universal flash interface
15:31 < rxr> especially on the post disk age flushing with DOS CDs is no fun ...
15:32 < rxr> despite we have FreeDOS for this now ...
15:34 < rxr> hm
15:34 < rxr> they have some live update
15:34 * rxr wonders if booting XP and using that would save me some DOS cd-burning pain ...
15:35 < rxr> and get some fresh viruses directly flashed into the bios ...
15:35 < rxr> btw. in the age of ACPI and Linux letting some ACPI system mamangement stuff run this could indeed become an issue ...
15:35 < rxr> imagine cracker would start flashing their junk into the system bios
15:35 * rxr shiffers ...
15:36 * rxr wonders where and when I lost mz win95 cd ..
15:37 < rxr> ah - f*ck I try this live update
15:37 * rxr does not want to bother with DOS CD bootery
15:37 < rxr> have messed enough with that and DOS network booting for this damn Geode ...
15:37 < rxr> su soon
15:37 * rxr into windows to try this live bios flash thing ...
15:44 < mnemoc> :\
15:49 < owl> re
15:52 < mnemoc> wb owlita
15:54 < owl> thx
15:55 < LMJ> hellloooo mnemoc and owl
15:58 < mnemoc> hi serwou
16:02 < owl> hi LMJ
16:02 < LMJ> how are you ?
16:03 < rxr> window fluff ..
16:03 < mnemoc> *g*
16:03 < owl> 1 hotpixel ist ok, isnt it?
16:03 < rxr> damn live update told me it updated and "optmized" my BIOS and did in fact _nothing_
16:03 * rxr burning a win95 ripped of el-torito boot iamge on cd ...
16:03 < rxr> let's see if this ami award whatever bios flash tool work at all ...
16:03 < rxr> more than this useless live update fluff ...
16:06 < karasz> rxr i need a newer libebml for the new vlc
16:06 < karasz> upgrading now
16:07 < karasz> mnemoc,
16:07 < karasz> hi
16:12 < rxr> wow - bios update cured major IRQ routing hickup
16:14 < CIA-8> amery * r14849 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/ (5 files):
16:14 < CIA-8> * updated kaffe (2005-12-23 -> 1.1.7-rc1), and updated copyright notes.
16:14 < CIA-8> * changed kaffe to use system zlib, and enabled fastjar and jvmpi
16:16 < rxr> now I only need to patch POSTing the VGA BIOS on wakeup and the notebook works perfectly ...
16:48 < LMJ> newbie question time : when i run a X program as root, got that error : "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: " how solve that ?
16:51 < karasz> you have to have $DISPLAY set
16:51 < karasz> something like export DISPLAY=":0" or some...
16:52 < LMJ> echo $DISPLAY : nothing ;)
16:53 < LMJ> arg, now : Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
16:53 < LMJ> Xlib: No protocol specified
17:01 < karasz> o_O
17:01 < karasz> rxr vlc kinda builds... o_O
17:21 < karasz> rxr around?
17:21 < karasz> finaly i hacked vlc
17:23 < rxr> re
17:23 < rxr> yes
17:23 < rxr> with acpi_sleep=s3_bios console video comes back on the notebook
17:23 < rxr> finally, all is perfect on the box ...
17:25 < karasz> rxr interested in how i made vlc work?
17:25 < rxr> sure
17:26 < karasz> or should i drop the subject?
17:26 < rxr> but dinner with susan
17:26 < karasz> oki
17:26 < karasz> bonapetit then rxr
17:26 < rxr> fell free to type 'till I'm back in some minutes
17:26 < karasz> i'll put a cofee too in the mean time
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17:35 < misl> hi folks
17:35 < misl> 2.1 x86-64 reference build
17:35 < misl> 1646 builds total, 767 completed fine, 32 with errors.
17:42 < karasz> hello minto
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17:58 < nzg> moin
17:59 < karasz> moin nzg
18:00 < nzg> hi karasz
18:04 < rxr> re
18:04 < _Ragnar_> hi hi
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18:09 < karasz> rxr around?
18:09 < karasz> iirc you are a kde user...
18:10 < karasz> ?
18:12 < karasz> any kde users around?
18:14 < sepp> seems they are an endangered species :)
18:14 < karasz> seem like it..
18:15 < karasz> what is up with mnemoc ?
18:15 < karasz> still counting votes or some?
18:17 < rxr_> yes
18:17 < rxr_> re
18:17 < rxr_> needed to scan a book page for susan and the mac took my full attention testing the commercial driver ...
18:20 < valentin> re
18:20 < valentin> rxr: any reproducable crash cenario yet ?
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18:25 < karasz> rxr_, i have a present for you ;)
18:25 < karasz> watch the ML
18:32 < misl> rxr: there is some kind of issue with sysfsutils and directfb in 2.1 64 bits
18:32 < misl> directfb can not find libsysfs.so since it looks in the wrong place
18:33 < misl> it looks for usr/lib64/libsysfs.so but it is located in lib64/libsysfs.so
18:34 < misl> 2.1 sysfsutils.conf is wron anyway, since it creates a link to the so in /usr/lib/ (no 64 here)
18:36 < rxr_> misl: yes, this happens bacause we move sysfs.so without updating the associated .la in 2.1
18:36 < rxr_> I think jsaw changed that in trunk
18:36 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:36 < karasz> rxr, watch the ML ;)
18:38 < misl> rxr: I noticed the link creation is gone in trunk.
18:39 < rxr> karasz: /me just applying a patch
18:40 < karasz> ?
18:40 < rxr> karasz: ML ,-)
18:40 < karasz> it is very nice
18:40 < karasz> try it and you will see
18:41 < rxr> karasz: alread looked at the screenshots ..
18:41 < karasz> i have the real thing
18:41 < rxr> karasz: your .desc is mostly fine, thanks - but a .cache for initial dependencies would be even more perfect
18:41 < karasz> and got it through emerge without any problems
18:42 < karasz> cache i added
18:42 < karasz> or i didn't?
18:42 < karasz> i made the .cache too
18:42 < karasz> but i guess i forgot to svn add the .cache before svn diff
18:42 < karasz> :(
18:42 < rxr> karasz: no problem - I build add, and commit ..
18:43 < karasz> should i re ML?
18:43 < karasz> oki
18:43 < karasz> damn I allways forget something ;(
18:43 < karasz> maybe on pack 101 i won't...
18:45 < rxr> karasz: comes time comes routine ,-)
18:46 < karasz> ack
18:49 < rxr> karasz: the thing is really cool ,-)
18:49 < CIA-8> rene * r14850 /trunk/package/kde/yakuake/ (. yakuake.cache yakuake.desc):
18:49 < CIA-8> Nagy Karoly Gabriel :
18:49 < CIA-8> * added yakuake (2.7.3) - An alternative KDE terminal emulator
18:50 < karasz> i told you so
18:50 < karasz> :D
18:52 < valentin> karasz: what is special about yakuake compared to the normal kterm ?
18:53 < karasz> valentin, it is very good lookin' and has a nice auto hide feature
18:53 < karasz> also multi tab like konsole and so...
18:54 < rxr> valentin: on F12 it comes out of your desktop top
18:54 < valentin> the kde terminal has tabs, too
18:54 < valentin> rxr: that is nice
18:54 < rxr> valentin: really looking like god on earth ...
18:55 < valentin> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,grossbild-565742-395558,00.html <= this is how to protest against lousy EU parlament decissions ;)
18:56 < rxr> valentin: the subnoteook is now running as smooth as all can be
18:56 < rxr> with IRQ hickup of the last weeks cured due to extreme BIOS update ...
18:56 < rxr> and a tiny flag to the kernel commandline brings the text consoles back on resume ...
18:58 < valentin> rxr: any driver feedback from your side yet ?
19:04 < rxr> what do you mean ?
19:04 < valentin> any reproducable crash cenario or such a thing ?
19:05 < valentin> 19:18 < rxr_> needed to scan a book page for susan and the mac took my full attention testing the
19:05 < valentin> commercial driver ...
19:05 < rxr> worked so far
19:05 < rxr> but I have not tested it too much
19:05 < rxr> I would still rather like to see the default gamma at 2.2
19:05 < rxr> have you removed the profile!=0 conditional to save the last non-profile parameter set ?
19:06 < valentin> yes, didn't you notice ;p ?
19:06 < rxr> have not looked at that part
19:06 < rxr> but gamma was 1.0
19:07 < rxr> editing the profile name comes in some weeks ?
19:07 < valentin> yep - i'll do a *= 2.2 to all slider values
19:07 < valentin> why not ?
19:08 < rxr> hm ?
19:08 < rxr> you mean when the slider shows 1.0 I get 2.2 ?
19:08 < valentin> yes, what do you think ?
19:08 < rxr> yeah
19:08 < rxr> that I get 2.2 when the slider shows 2.2 ?
19:09 < rxr> that is not hidden but due to color space theory what is the intended gamma value for scans with the composition of scanner and monitor printer hardware
19:09 < valentin> rxr: that is even more easy
19:09 < rxr> I never said it should be hidden - just 2.2 by default
19:09 < valentin> so i just default it to 2.2
19:09 < valentin> :)
19:09 < rxr> that is also was pro scanner driver on windows show the user when the open the TWAIN thingi
19:09 < rxr> valentin: yes, I always said default to, not hide behind the users back ..
19:10 < valentin> as you wish sire
19:10 < rxr> no wonder susans scan was so light and I just used 1.8 and still felt it was a bit bright ..
19:10 < valentin> ?
19:10 < valentin> you want to RAISE gamma
19:10 < valentin> so it gets brighter
19:11 < rxr> I wanted it 2.2
19:11 < rxr> and wonder that it is that bright and the moved it back to 1.8 and wondered with the hell does it stil look imperfetly bright ..
19:11 < valentin> but now you tell me 1.8 is too bright ?
19:11 < rxr> you told me you already multiply with 2.2 ...
19:12 < valentin> no
19:12 < valentin> i said i will modify that view controller
19:12 < valentin> atm 1.8 is 1.8
19:12 < rxr> ah I'll do ...
19:12 < rxr> alright
19:12 < valentin> and 2.2 will be 2.2 and much to bright imo
19:12 < rxr> maybe the 610 does already gamma correct to 2.2
19:12 < valentin> but i try right now
19:13 < rxr> I think for the latest scanners it is quite fine
19:13 < rxr> only junk, e.g. from HP has a prebuilt 2.2 hardware gamma hidden behind the drivers back
19:14 < CIA-8> rene * r14851 /trunk/package/multimedia/fftw/ (fftw.conf fftw.desc no-fortran.patch):
19:14 < CIA-8> * fixed fftw's configure to not abort when no fortran is available,
19:14 < CIA-8> it does not include fortran code ...
19:14 < rxr> r15k this week, no ?
19:14 < valentin> rxr: on the av220 2.2 looks a bit too bright, too - even on this f... mac display
19:14 < valentin> black is not totaly black anymore
19:15 < valentin> 1.5 looks more like what i see
19:15 < rxr> hm
19:15 < valentin> you are right, 1.0 is too dark - esp for recycled paper
19:15 < rxr> the use 1.8
19:15 < rxr> that is what I even used on the old av630, the only scanner I paid so far ...
19:15 < rxr> since 1998 ...
19:15 < rxr> did I mention this thing still works ?
19:16 < rxr> I could make a century photo in 2008 scannin on the 40MHz SPARC Station ....
19:16 < valentin> need a table containing def. gamma per scanner :)
19:16 < rxr> well - let's use 1.8 although that is not what would theoretically be needed ...
19:16 < rxr> the driver does officially not support HP junk ...
19:17 < valentin> yea, 1.8 looks good, too
19:17 < valentin> damn, whats wrong with my fucking mac
19:18 < valentin> since the day before yesterday it feels slow and swaping all the time
19:18 < valentin> even more than before
19:18 < valentin> maybe it is due to installing windows media player ?
19:19 < LMJ> hello the chan : this is an error who occured during the update of my system to 2.1.1.1 from 2.1-stable with ladspa-vrt : http://pastebin.com/508539
19:20 < rxr> valentin: ?
19:20 < rxr> valentin: btw. you should finally update to 10.4 ...
19:21 < rxr> I gave you the copy we got for driver development long ago
19:21 < _Ragnar_> hmmm lirc package has a depmod -a
19:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: kill it
19:22 < _Ragnar_> ?
19:22 * _Ragnar_ kills lirc
19:22 < rxr> the depmod -a ...
19:22 < rxr> no-depmod.patch ,-)
19:22 < _Ragnar_> o_o
19:25 < valentin> rxr: svn up
19:26 < valentin> btw, for each profile you ever scanned from, you will have to hit the "defaults" button to get the new default
19:26 < valentin> so do not wonder if it is still 1.0 in old profiles
19:28 < valentin> looking at a high definition scan, 1.8 does not look to perfect, too - one would have to alter contrast, too
19:29 < valentin> the paper background is still a bit to dark, wheras the black ink is a bit greyish
19:32 < mnemoc> rehi
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19:33 < morfoh> re
19:33 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
19:34 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
19:34 < mnemoc> rxr: @t2-project.org bounced my last mail due to spam :'(
19:36 < rxr> mnemoc: oehm
19:36 < rxr> mnemoc: can you fwd the bounce to me ?
19:36 < rxr> valentin: I think you moved the scanner GUI window to the top while editing the .nib
19:36 < rxr> and now the window is always located at the top of the screen
19:36 < rxr> remeber this interface builder high tech stuff saves the editors window position ...
19:36 < rxr> however I want to correct a distance anyway ...
19:37 < rxr> I can fix that
19:37 < mnemoc> rxr: sent
19:37 < rxr> ah - yep no profile settings get saved - thanks valentin q
19:37 < valentin> rxr: ?
19:38 < rxr> aren't they ?
19:38 < valentin> they
19:39 < valentin> they are of course
19:39 < valentin> the '?' was about your window stuff
19:39 < valentin> rxr: do you two have plans for the next weekend ?
19:41 < karasz> morfoh, komrade nice to see yop again ;)
19:42 < morfoh> thx karasz-san ... allways a pleasure to meet you ;)
19:43 < karasz> likewise morfoh ;)
19:45 < morfoh> karasz: but afais you're still marked "away" ... so who's talking there ? :p
19:45 < rxr> valentin: susan has birthday on the 20th and otherwise she has to learn
19:45 < rxr> I also have to prepare a talk, a design thing and an exam ...
19:45 < rxr> but aside from that, yes ,-)
19:45 < rxr> strange
19:46 < rxr> the .nib has auto position on all borders
19:46 < rxr> but it was on the top
19:46 < rxr> after I moved the saved position to the center (of my screen) it is in he center again when opened in photoshop ...
19:46 < rxr> do you have open points?
19:47 < rxr> maybe it is better to hand the asking customers the version as it is now
19:47 < rxr> and ship the button integration later
19:47 < karasz> how the hell was i away?
19:47 < karasz> and who talked in my name?
19:47 * karasz looks around...
19:47 < rxr> this will unconver new usb problems I bet, and hav eno time for ...
19:47 < rxr> uncover ..
19:47 < rxr> and so they have profiles and other core and so on changes ....
19:47 < rxr> e.g. ui-less mode improvements ...
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19:56 < LMJ> here a problem i have with the homemade package emelfm2 : http://rafb.net/paste/results/BS5wp327.html
19:57 < rxr> valentin: release as it to make profile awaiting people happy?
19:57 < rxr> and I integrate scanner button tinkery later on when I have time again ?
19:57 < mnemoc> LMJ: don't use /usr/local for t2 packages
19:58 < LMJ> mnemoc ? i never specify to use /usr/local anywhere
19:59 < mnemoc> you have to tell it to use $prefix as prefix
19:59 < mnemoc> depending on the package some use --prefix=$prefix to ./configure
19:59 < mnemoc> or PREFIX=$prefix to make install
19:59 < mnemoc> first find how yours does it
20:00 < CIA-8> rene * r14852 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/ (64bit.patch gcc-4.0-64.patch rezound.conf rezound.desc): * fixed rezound for 64bit (two upstream CVS revs), copyright regen
20:01 < rxr> did I mention this development subnotebook starts to become fun?
20:01 < valentin> rxr: zes, release that thing
20:03 < valentin> maybe the customer finds out how to crash our DS ;)
20:03 < rxr> we need to convince someone we need to get an Intel Mac for universal binary drivers ...
20:03 < rxr> uploaded
20:04 < LMJ> should take 2 min to fix that in that case ;) but for now, GTG, woman can't wait :-/ ;)
20:05 < rxr> LMJ: have fun and cu
20:05 < LMJ> thanks, see you tomorrow, have a good night/end of day
20:08 < karasz> cu SerWou
20:20 < rxr> mnemoc: the mail hit the list
20:21 < rxr> I do not see that our server rejected it
20:21 < rxr> maybe I'm blind ...
20:21 < rxr> valentin: can you quickly sent me an old osx driver release mail ?
20:21 < rxr> my old ones are mostly on my old athlon
20:21 < mnemoc> rxr: what's that bounce then?
20:22 * rxr should configure kmail to store the sent mails on the IMAP server ...
20:22 * mnemoc prefer to CC
20:22 < rxr> look at the received path
20:22 < rxr> I see no exactcode.de
20:22 < rxr> or so
20:23 < mnemoc> From:
20:23 < mnemoc> Mail Delivery Subsystem
20:23 < mnemoc> :)
20:23 < rxr> but that is the one sign
20:23 < rxr> and I think my server does not send such mails
20:23 < mnemoc> uhm...
20:23 < rxr> also you would have spanassassin notes in the mail ...
20:24 < rxr> at least not as "spam-daemon@t2-project.org"
20:24 < rxr> IIRC
20:24 < mnemoc> -1.6, from my smtp-auth
20:24 < mnemoc> weird anyway
20:25 < rxr> the list has the mail, do you see?
20:26 < mnemoc> i get them always because i CC myself
20:26 < mnemoc> but if you got it, i'm happy
20:26 < mnemoc> OT: how do you feed package versions to distrowatch?
20:26 < rxr> valentin: ok - athlon booted forget it
20:28 < rxr> mnemoc: I posted on the day
20:28 < rxr> we have since the beginning a rock compatible file on the server
20:28 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/index.txt
20:29 < rxr> often distrowatch wrote html parser and such - but since one html change at rock times broke it we export this file
20:29 < rxr> and so does t2 since the beginning
20:29 < rxr> I just reminded distrowatch about that some days ago when I read the discussion in scrollback
20:29 < Baldzius> mnemoc: maybe you could email ladislav?
20:30 < Baldzius> it would be more official than email from me :)
20:30 < rxr> I mailed him about the version file just a few days ago ...
20:30 < Baldzius> oh
20:31 < Baldzius> ic
20:31 < Baldzius> well if not i'll email him next month :)
20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: apropos package matrix too, we need to distinguism betwen branches
20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: maybe $sdever based?
20:34 < mnemoc> rxr: i could make a simple sh-based cgi assuming you have a working copy of http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/ .... too much load?
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20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: hm
20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: well - branches would just be packages/{trunk,2.1} and so on ...
20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: I can hand you the current generator tomorrow or so
20:39 * rxr soon of in bed ...
20:39 < rxr> so you make it a cgi ...
20:40 < mnemoc> for the matrix, yes
20:40 < karasz> what pack contains kio-slaves?
20:40 < mnemoc> but to feed stuff per-release to distrowatch we need something more detailed
20:40 < mnemoc> ok, tomorrow anyway ,-)
20:41 < rxr> valentin: btw the auto resize button does work ?
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20:43 < karasz> what pack contains kio-slaves?
20:44 < rxr> valentin: hm - the version would have the auto-resize button active not doing anything ...
20:44 < rxr> anyway - sending the announcement
20:44 < rxr> at least a reason to do a 1.5.1 and so on ... ,-)
20:46 < mnemoc> karasz: kdelibs: opt/kde3/bin/kioslave
20:47 < karasz> yup i found it in the mean time.. ;)
20:47 < mnemoc> :)
20:48 < karasz> hmmm
20:48 < karasz> i am wondering if i should emerge again kdelibs
20:48 < karasz> konqueror does not know smb:// ....
20:50 < mnemoc> you need samba to get smb:// support ,-)
20:50 < karasz> i have samba installed and runnin fine
20:51 < mnemoc> uhm
20:51 < karasz> i tried smb4k but it does not show the shares
20:51 < karasz> although mounts them if i tell it the name of the share...
20:51 < karasz> smbtree finds all the shares
20:51 < rxr> n8 all
20:52 < karasz> n8 rxr
20:52 < misl> sleep well rxr
20:52 < karasz> YaKuake to u all ;)
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20:53 < misl> karasz: kwaak to you too :)
20:54 < karasz> :-)
20:54 < karasz> minto you do not read ML...
20:54 < misl> :D I did
20:54 < karasz> ok then
20:54 < misl> kwaak is the word we use overhere to indicate the sound of ducks or frogs
20:55 < karasz> ohum
20:55 < mnemoc> ducks sure, but frogs?? since when frogs do kwaak?
20:55 < karasz> ?
20:55 < karasz> they kinda do...
20:56 < misl> Kuake seems pretty close to kwaak
20:56 < karasz> yup
20:56 < karasz> morfoh, around?
20:56 < misl> mnemoc: what do chilian frogs do?
20:56 < misl> when not put on the BBQ
20:56 < karasz> :D
20:57 < misl> mnemoc: I did a 2.1 64 bits ref build and I got some failures :(
20:57 < misl> 2.1 x86-64 reference build
20:57 < misl> 1646 builds total, 767 completed fine, 32 with errors.
20:57 < mnemoc> it would be closer to kwraak
20:57 < mnemoc> not kwaak
20:58 < misl> we have krak and kraak but no kwraak
20:58 < mnemoc> :)
20:58 < mnemoc> krwaak?
20:59 < misl> not either :)
20:59 < mnemoc> :)
20:59 < misl> but we have wraak :)
20:59 < misl> wraak = revenge
20:59 < mnemoc> :p
21:00 < misl> mnemoc: ref build stopped although it wasn't finished, any idea why?
21:00 < misl> might it be due to failed dependancies?
21:02 < misl> Also I noticed sysfsutils uses both /lib64 and /usr/lib64 to put results in.
21:02 < karasz> o_O
21:02 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# smbadduser karasz
21:02 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba: Command not found.
21:02 < karasz> prefix: Undefined variable.
21:02 < karasz> wth?
21:03 < misl> directfb looks libsysfs.so in /usr/lib64 but it is in /lib64.
21:03 < misl> this is why directfb is one of the failed packages.
21:04 < mnemoc> karasz: file `type -p smbadduser`
21:05 < karasz> /opt/samba/bin/smbadduser: C shell script text executable
21:07 < karasz> #!/bin/csh
21:07 < karasz> #
21:07 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff
21:07 < karasz> #
21:07 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba
21:07 < karasz> exec_prefix=${prefix}
21:07 < karasz> LIBDIR=${prefix}/lib
21:07 < karasz> PRIVATEDIR=/etc/opt/samba/private
21:07 < karasz> CONFIGDIR=/etc/opt/samba
21:08 < karasz> in bash it would be ok but csh i don't know
21:10 < karasz> hmm it should be set variable=value
21:11 < mnemoc> csh
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21:12 < mnemoc> change that to !/bin/sh
21:12 < karasz> i wrote set to all variables and now it works
21:12 < mnemoc> good :)
21:12 < karasz> i dunno
21:12 < karasz> it may be csh because it does not look lik ebash
21:13 < mnemoc> what you showed, looks like bash :)
21:13 < karasz> the rest does not look like bash ;)
21:13 < mnemoc> :)
21:14 < karasz> unalias *
21:14 < karasz> set path = ($path /usr/local/samba/bin)
21:14 < karasz> set smbpasswd = $PRIVATEDIR/smbpasswd
21:14 < karasz> set user_map = $CONFIGDIR/users.map
21:14 < karasz> ^^ does not look like bash, does it?
21:15 < mnemoc> tcsh :)
21:16 < karasz> anyway works with csh
21:17 < mnemoc> karasz: try to find where those wrong lines where added please
21:17 < karasz> if you want you can patch stable ;)
21:17 < mnemoc> karasz: so we can really fix it
21:17 < mnemoc> were added*
21:17 < karasz> hmmm i'll have to emerge because samba was enabled on Build-Target
21:18 < karasz> how can i retain the src directory on succesfull builds?
21:18 < mnemoc> you can't
21:18 < karasz> nice
21:19 < mnemoc> what you do is to force a failure
21:19 < karasz> so how will i see what is inside?
21:19 < mnemoc> hook_add postmake 5 false
21:19 < karasz> good
21:19 < karasz> lets force T2 to break
21:19 < karasz> :D
21:19 < karasz> how?
21:19 < karasz> oki
21:22 < karasz> now dld samba
21:27 < karasz> f*
21:27 < karasz> it will take a while
21:27 < karasz> damn
21:27 < karasz> my wks drives me crazy
21:27 < mnemoc> btw, on update mode modified files won't be replaced
21:27 < karasz> it makes strange sounds...
21:28 < mnemoc> there is a backup/restore routine around it
21:28 < karasz> something like a stegosaurus baby...
21:28 < karasz> and i can't figure out what it is... o_O
21:28 < karasz> mnemoc, you were talkin' to me?
21:28 < karasz> abt update mode?
21:29 < mnemoc> yes
21:30 < mnemoc> you have an installed samba, so this emerge is considered an update
21:31 < karasz> O_O
21:31 < karasz> samba is broke in the source???
21:31 < karasz> #!/bin/csh
21:31 < karasz> #
21:31 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff
21:31 < karasz> #
21:31 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba
21:31 < karasz> exec_prefix=${prefix}
21:31 < karasz> LIBDIR=${prefix}/lib
21:31 < karasz> PRIVATEDIR=/etc/opt/samba/private
21:31 < karasz> CONFIGDIR=/etc/opt/samba
21:32 < karasz> this is in /usr/src/t2-src/src.samba.mine.20060116.212807.11311.karasz/samba-3.0.20b/source
21:32 < karasz> ???
21:33 < karasz> from this i deduce that smbadduser is broken in source
21:33 < karasz> we just only change the values of that params...
21:34 < mnemoc> fixed on .21a?
21:34 < karasz> i dunno
21:34 < karasz> i will check
21:34 < misl> sleep well all, I am off to bed
21:35 < karasz> damn that stegosaurus......
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21:35 < mnemoc> 2.1:HEAD has .21a
21:35 < mnemoc> grandpa' misl
21:36 < karasz> dld .21a now
21:37 < karasz> btw mnemoc
21:37 < karasz> i made vlc kinda work on 2.1. stable x86-64
21:38 < karasz> openldap also has a problem which must be fixed
21:40 < karasz> that's it my stegosaurus will drive me crazy !!!!
21:44 < karasz> mnemoc, it is not fixed on .21a either
21:44 < mnemoc> karasz: ok, cp source/smbadduser source/smbadduser.orig
21:44 < mnemoc> karasz: vi source/smbadduser and fix
21:44 < karasz> it is smbadduser.in in .21a
21:45 < mnemoc> ok, .in
21:45 < mnemoc> cp source/smbadduser.in{,.orig}
21:45 < mnemoc> vi source/smbadduser.in
21:45 < karasz> and make a diff patch
21:45 < karasz> :D
21:45 < karasz> that much i learned
21:45 < mnemoc> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch
21:46 < mnemoc> mv fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch /your_t2_tree/package/*/samba/
21:46 < mnemoc> svn add .... and blah blah :)
21:52 < karasz> gone
21:53 < karasz> i made it against trunk
21:53 < mnemoc> it should be the same
21:54 < karasz> yep just i wanted you to know
21:54 < mnemoc> and all patches go to trunk first anyway
21:54 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14853 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4: * correct input modules selection (joystick, touchscreen)
21:55 < karasz> mnemoc, you have some merging to do from trunk... ;)
21:55 < karasz> for kde
21:55 < karasz> and openldap maybe...
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21:56 < mnemoc> karasz: give me revision numbers ,-)
21:57 < mnemoc> what update from kde?
21:57 < mnemoc> i ahve to stay at 3.4.x
21:58 < mnemoc> due to compatibility/stability policies
21:58 < karasz> ?
21:58 < karasz> did i say something abt update kde?
21:58 < karasz> it is an issue that rxr fixed for x86-64
21:59 < karasz> in essence is that there is no /opt/kde3/libs or it is empty
21:59 < karasz> /opt/kde3/lib should be a symlink to /opt/kde2/lib64
21:59 < karasz> without that kde does not even start on T2
22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:16] mnemoc, you have some merging to do from trunk... ;)
22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:21] for kde
22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:29] and openldap maybe...
22:00 < mnemoc> ah, lib64 fixes, yes
22:01 < karasz> openldap is the same
22:01 < karasz> it has only /lib64
22:01 < karasz> packs depending on openldap fail due to not finding lib
22:02 < karasz> like evolution-data-server
22:02 < Baldzius> jsaw: around ?
22:02 < karasz> also eds must be marked FPIC-QUIRK
22:03 < karasz> vlc is another issue
22:03 < karasz> 0.8.2 fails with assembly
22:03 < mnemoc> i have to import LIBTOOL-QUIRK, AUTOMAKE-QUIRK and FPIC-QUIRK stuff
22:03 < karasz> but they made some changes in 0.8.4a which is in trunk
22:04 < karasz> for vlc to build on 2.1 i made the following:
22:04 < karasz> re-emerged libmpeg2 with fPIC
22:04 < karasz> changed vlc.desc to match .desc on trunk
22:04 < karasz> upgraded libembl to trunk
22:05 < karasz> and wxwidgets also to trunk
22:05 < karasz> built fine, but
22:05 < mnemoc> watch out with wxwidgets
22:05 < karasz> only runs with `vlc --intf wxwindows`
22:06 < karasz> a simple vlc fails because it say cannot find any interface
22:06 < jsaw> Baldzius: more or less ;)
22:06 < karasz> but with above it runs fine
22:06 < mnemoc> if you update wxwidgets you must update wxpython
22:07 < Baldzius> jsaw: for min , can you look as http://pastebin.com/508460 and say why it fails on ref but compiles with Emerge ? :)
22:07 < karasz> i didn't, maybe that's why a simple vlc does not do it...
22:08 < Baldzius> jsaw: i think -ljpeg could fix it but why it compiles with Emerge-Pkg
22:08 < Baldzius> jsaw: same with cinepaint
22:09 < jsaw> on x86-64?
22:09 < Baldzius> x86
22:09 < jsaw> yes, seems like missing dependency
22:10 < Baldzius> this is mysterious for me
22:10 < jsaw> ask libtool why it works while emerging, but not inside chroot
22:10 < jsaw> :|
22:10 < Baldzius> shi!t :/
22:10 < jsaw> simple but true --^
22:11 < karasz> mnemoc, i have no wxpython installed...
22:11 < karasz> and wxwidgets emerged with no problems...
22:12 < Baldzius> but when i am compiling with Emerge or on ref i see same libs
22:12 < Baldzius> -L/usr/X11/lib -ltiff -lpng -lX11
22:12 < Baldzius> no -ljpeg
22:12 < Baldzius> and emerge doesn't fail
22:12 < jsaw> Baldzius: as I said, ask libtool
22:12 < Baldzius> damn
22:12 < jsaw> Baldzius: (you can have a look at the dependency_libs in libtiff.la)
22:13 < Baldzius> iirc there is libjepg
22:13 < Baldzius> everything looks ok
22:14 < jsaw> both, in chroot and local ?
22:14 < Baldzius> yes
22:14 < Baldzius> they look the same
22:14 < jsaw> okay, ask libtool itself...
22:15 < Baldzius> ok , thanks anyway :)
22:15 < jsaw> np
22:16 < Baldzius> :)
22:34 < karasz> mnemoc,
22:34 < karasz> there is a problem
22:34 < karasz> with the smbadduser patch
22:37 < jsaw> what problem?
22:37 < karasz> moment
22:38 < karasz> /usr/src/t2-trunk/package/network/samba/fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch
22:38 < karasz> ==[apply_patchfiles:636 (last $?=0)> patch -bfp1 -z .orig
22:38 < karasz> can't find file to patch at input line 3
22:38 < karasz> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
22:38 < karasz> The text leading up to this was:
22:38 < karasz> --------------------------
22:38 < karasz> |--- /source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000
22:38 < karasz> |+++ /source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000
22:38 < karasz> --------------------------
22:38 < karasz> No file to patch. Skipping patch.
22:38 < karasz> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored
22:38 < karasz> Due to previous errors, no 9-samba.log file!
22:39 < karasz> i made that patch but i guess i messed up with something
22:39 < mnemoc> ./source/smbadduser.in
22:39 < mnemoc> notice the dot
22:39 < karasz> should i remove it?
22:40 < mnemoc> remove what?
22:40 < karasz> the dot
22:40 < mnemoc> no!
22:40 < mnemoc> the dot is missing
22:40 < mnemoc> and it should be there
22:40 < karasz> nah
22:40 < karasz> it was
22:40 < mnemoc> not on what you pasted
22:40 < karasz> i know
22:40 < mnemoc> paste --- and +++ lines from the patch
22:42 < Baldzius> mnemoc: kaffe patch isn't applying and it also fails without patch
22:42 < Baldzius> ^^ -- x86 ref
22:42 < karasz> --- ./source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000
22:42 < karasz> +++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000
22:42 < karasz> @@ -3,11 +3,11 @@
22:42 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff
22:42 < karasz> #
22:43 < karasz> mnemoc, disregard what i am sayin'
22:43 < mnemoc> about?
22:44 < karasz> abt the patch i wil verify again
22:44 < karasz> this is from the error
22:44 < karasz> Cleaning up ccache ...
22:44 < karasz> -> Restoring backup of old package data.
22:44 < karasz> !> --------------------------
22:44 < karasz> !> |--- ./source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000
22:44 < karasz> !> |+++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000
22:44 < karasz> !> --------------------------
22:44 < karasz> !> No file to patch. Skipping patch.
22:44 < karasz> !> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored
22:44 < karasz> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-samba.log file!
22:44 < karasz> there are dots...
22:44 < mnemoc> o.o
22:45 < karasz> i will make a Create-Err -romove and try again
22:45 < Baldzius> +++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig
22:45 < Baldzius> i am always doing diff -Nur
22:45 < jsaw> karasz: wrong way round
22:46 < karasz> ahum now i notice
22:46 < CIA-8> amery * r14854 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/dompatch-guilhem.patch: * removed dompatch-guilhem.patch from kaffe because it's included on the release
22:46 < mnemoc> ah, yes... i didn't notice you have +++ .orig
22:46 < mnemoc> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,}
22:47 < mnemoc> not diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{,.orig}
22:47 < karasz> and i trusted you
22:47 < karasz> ;)
22:49 < mnemoc> [18:47:17] diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch
22:49 < mnemoc> ^---- what's wrong there?
22:50 < karasz> so?
22:50 < karasz> i remade
22:51 < karasz> now i am waitin for the diff command...
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22:55 < karasz> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > /root/fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch does not work either ....
22:55 < karasz> what the heck?
22:56 < karasz> -> Restoring backup of old package data.
22:56 < karasz> !> --------------------------
22:56 < karasz> !> |--- ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 22:50:47.000000000 +0000
22:56 < karasz> !> |+++ ./source/smbadduser.in 2006-01-16 22:51:12.000000000 +0000
22:56 < karasz> !> --------------------------
22:56 < karasz> !> No file to patch. Skipping patch.
22:56 < karasz> !> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored
22:56 < mnemoc> cd src.samba.$randomcrap/
22:56 < mnemoc> cd samba-3.0.21a
22:57 < mnemoc> ls -alF ./source/smbadduser.in
22:57 < karasz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1851 Feb 25 2005 ./source/smbadduser.in
22:58 < mnemoc> O_O
23:00 < karasz> AC_OUTPUT(include/stamp-h Makefile script/findsmb smbadduser script/gen-8bit-gap.sh) does tell you smth?
23:00 < jsaw> karasz: remove "/source" manually
23:01 < karasz> hmm i looked again directly in the bz2
23:01 < karasz> the file is there it not gets created...
23:01 < jsaw> remove the /source
23:01 < jsaw> !!!
23:01 < karasz> it is there from the beginnin'
23:01 < karasz> ok
23:01 < jsaw> samba.conf: srcdir="samba-$ver/source"
23:01 < mnemoc> :D
23:03 < karasz> which is korect -- .orig or --- .in?
23:03 < jsaw> karasz: only remve "/source" from the diff as it is now
23:03 < jsaw> manually with $EDITOR
23:04 < karasz> now the diff is ---.orig
23:04 < jsaw> yep, that's fine
23:04 < karasz> it should read ./smbadduser.in.orig?
23:04 < jsaw> yes
23:04 < jsaw> or alternative source/smbadduser.in
23:05 < jsaw> see sparc.patch for example
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23:16 < karasz> good
23:17 < karasz> samba built
23:20 < jsaw> :)
23:26 < jsaw> Focus steeling prevention ??? wtf
23:26 < jsaw> (<- testing KDE)
23:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-24-54.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2
23:27 < jsaw> nice, password window pops up (while "Focus steeling prevention = Low"), then I type the password almost into irc client, becaus the popup window does not get the focus
23:27 < jsaw> how f*cking stupid
23:30 < jsaw> rxr: udev needs a /dev/cdrom link
23:31 < ojh> jsaw: Agreed. Random pop-ups stealing the focus while doing something else is one of the worst UI features ever.
23:33 < jsaw> its exactly the other way round. A password popup _must_ grab (globally) the focus.
23:34 < jsaw> And if it doesn't grab, it shouldn't appear on top stacking layer at least
23:34 < jsaw> even old e16 does a better job at this
23:39 < jsaw> hi ojh btw
23:39 < jsaw> (sorry I'm in KDE bashing mood)
23:40 < jsaw> Can somebody tell me how I get rid of the "Leave focus by pressing ALT-key"-behaviour???
23:49 < jsaw> rxr: /sbin/init.d/xcfgt2 destroyed my xorg.conf, this shouldn't happen when a user uses a manually edited xorg.conf
23:55 < mnemoc> re
23:55 < mnemoc> xcfgt2.init is designed for livecd only
23:55 < mnemoc> so you should not enable it :)
23:55 < jsaw> it is there by default
23:55 < jsaw> and even then, it shouldn't
23:56 < mnemoc> i mean symlinked to /etc/rc.d/rc{3,5}.d
23:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: it's automatically installed in runlevel 5
23:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: without user interaction!
23:59 < mnemoc> ehm
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