--- Log opened Thu Jan 26 00:00:26 2006 00:20 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-181.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:42 < CIA-2> aldas * r15054 /trunk/package/games/clanlib/ (clanlib.desc configure-png-fix.patch): 00:42 < CIA-2> * updated clanlib (0.7.8-1 -> 0.8.0-RC1) 00:42 < CIA-2> * removed configure-png-fix.patch 00:59 < CIA-2> aldas * r15055 /trunk/package/games/pingus/ (5 files): 00:59 < CIA-2> * added pingus/gcc4.patch 00:59 < CIA-2> * removed pingus/gcc34.patch 01:47 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.251.142] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:54 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECF56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 02:54 < morfoh> good morning 02:57 < mnemoc> o.o 02:58 < morfoh> hey mnemoc ... what are you looking so ... :) 03:12 < morfoh> gn8 03:12 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECF56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 04:04 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFBD2C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:17 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFBACB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:58 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 06:58 < mipe> morning chan 08:04 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 08:05 < mtr> moin 09:16 < LMJ> good morning the chan 09:25 < owl> moin 09:27 < LMJ> how are you owl ? 09:29 < owl> hm. unable to open my eyes or so. thx. you? 09:33 < LMJ> hehe 09:33 < LMJ> i'm ok 09:34 < LMJ> shower time i guess here 09:34 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.90] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:42 -!- axion__ [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 09:48 -!- axion_ [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:47 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:48 < nzg> moin 10:55 < mipe> hmm.. hal patch is borken... 10:55 < mipe> why do we change fdi policy? 10:56 < mipe> -.B /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ 10:56 < mipe> +.B /usr/etc/hal/fdi/policy/ 10:56 < mipe> fstab.8 10:56 < Baldzius> mipe: remove that patch locally 11:05 < valentin> moin 11:12 < Baldzius> hi valentin 11:20 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.246.229] has joined #t2 11:32 < valentin> someone here who can send and receive gnupg encrypted messages ? i want to test if i configured my mail client correctly 11:36 < valentin> damn, somehow i forot my secret keyring passphrase - did not use gpg for over 6 month now :/ 11:37 < valentin> ok, creating new key ... :( the old one was not known to many ppl anyway 12:10 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.246.229] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:19 < LMJ> valentin : upload your public key to a server 12:27 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.75] has joined #t2 12:30 < mnemoc> moin 12:32 < LMJ> moin mnemoc 12:33 < mnemoc> moin master joda 12:35 < LMJ> you can call me LMJ ;) 12:35 < mnemoc> thanks 12:36 < LMJ> cool 12:36 < LMJ> brb 12:43 < valentin> moin mnemoc 12:44 < mnemoc> moin valentin 12:48 < mnemoc> does wine finish building successfully for you? 12:49 < valentin> ok, decrypting works. anyone i can send a pgp encrypted message ? 12:49 < valentin> mnemoc: who is "you" ? 12:50 < mnemoc> you = anyone reading :) 12:50 < valentin> which wine version ? build it around n.y.eve :) 12:51 < CIA-2> aldas * r15056 /trunk/package/x11/gscmxx/ (compile-fix.patch gscmxx.desc): * added gscmxx/compile-fix.patch 12:51 < Baldzius> moin mnemoc 12:51 < Baldzius> wine 0.9.6? 12:52 < mnemoc> or 0.9.5 12:53 < mnemoc> both 'just fail' here after: 12:53 < mnemoc> rm -f wintab.dll.so && ln -s wintab32.dll.so wintab.dll.so 12:53 < mnemoc> rm -f wprocs.dll.so && ln -s winedos.dll.so wprocs.dll.so 12:53 < mnemoc> make[1]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.wine.rafaella.20060126.094224.4915.builder/wine-0.9.6/dlls' 12:53 < mnemoc> Due to previous errors, no 5-wine.log file! 12:53 < mnemoc> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.) 12:53 < mnemoc> silently 12:53 < Baldzius> hm , i commited wine 0.9.5 so it worked for me 12:53 < Baldzius> i can try 0.9.6 12:54 < Baldzius> wine 0.9.5 compiled on my ref build several days ago 12:54 < mnemoc> it compiles here too 12:55 < mnemoc> but install fail.... i guess due to wrong a && b logic 12:56 < Baldzius> checking ... 12:56 < mnemoc> uhm, no 12:56 < mnemoc> the last link is created 12:56 < mnemoc> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jan 26 09:48 wprocs.dll.so -> winedos.dll.so* 13:19 < Baldzius> =[9]=> Finished building package wine 13:20 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.169.50.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:22 < rxr> re 13:22 < rxr> so - one damned paper with talk handed away ... 13:22 < rxr> and today the ordered Maeda book arrived - juchu .. 13:27 < rxr> ... just a bit too late 13:28 < rxr> "As predicted, 2005 was the hottest year since accurate temperature recording began in the late 1800s. This news is all the more interesting because 2005 was not an "El Niņo" year like 1998, the previous record holder." 13:28 < rxr> ^- http://slashdot.org/ 13:28 < rxr> ... and the coldest winter here in north germany since a long time as well 13:34 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.158.61.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:47 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEEA69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 14:00 < valentin> hi rxr 14:00 < valentin> cold winters often correlate to years that are warm in the average temperature 14:03 < valentin> rxr: due to alzheimer, i had to create a new public gpg key 14:03 < valentin> so you better delete my old one from your keyring 14:14 < CIA-2> aldas * r15057 /trunk/package/games/gnubg/ (6 files): * added gnubg/gcc4.patch 14:15 < rxr> ic slowly the most important packages are fixed for gcc >= 4.x then ,-) 14:18 < valentin> just for my information : how do you handle patches with pkgfork ? ;) 14:19 < rxr> pkgfork ? 14:19 < rxr> valentin: do you talk about T2 ? 14:19 < valentin> alias #ifdef 14:19 < valentin> nope 14:19 < rxr> then I do not know 14:20 < rxr> I think they group in subdirectories and such 14:20 < rxr> but I try to avoid too much of this noise in my brain 14:21 < valentin> sure 14:37 < mnemoc> jsaw and i wanted to use subdirs and different .desc for foo-% 14:39 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178128226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 14:39 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 14:39 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 14:39 [Users #t2] 14:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-2] [ mipe ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 14:39 [ axion__ ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 14:39 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ owl] [ sepp_] 14:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 14:39 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 14:39 -!- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 14:40 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 14:54 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178158197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:06 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 15:07 < misl> hi folks 15:08 < mnemoc> hi misl 15:09 < mnemoc> how is the job at amsterdam going? 15:12 < misl> mnemoc: Fine, they have a big mess, so lot's of things to do ;-) 15:13 < mnemoc> sounds fun :) 15:13 < mnemoc> lot of T2-based machines to install? :) 15:13 < misl> mnemoc: do you know TomTom ? 15:13 < mnemoc> nope, what is it? 15:13 < mnemoc> http://www.tomtom.com/ 15:14 < misl> brb 15:14 < mnemoc> o_O 15:15 < misl> someone at the door. 15:15 < mnemoc> :) 15:15 < misl> today I got a call to some technical job at tomtom 15:16 < misl> unfortunately I just started at the police here in amsterdam. 15:16 < misl> I wouldn't be honorfull to quit that :( 15:18 < mnemoc> it's good to be friend of the police 15:20 < misl> tomtom is embedded linux, maybe something for t2 ;-) 15:20 < misl> police is java work. Not really something for t2 :( 15:21 < mnemoc> kaffe :) 15:22 < mnemoc> what do you prefer, coding or T2? 15:22 < misl> both :D 15:23 < mnemoc> :) 15:23 < valentin> hi misl 15:23 < misl> hi valentin 15:24 < misl> I gotta go, grandma (My mother in law) has trouble opening her door :( 15:24 < misl> cu later 15:26 < mnemoc> super misl to the rescue 15:26 < rxr_> re 15:27 < mnemoc> wb rxr_ 15:27 < rxr_> misl: redirect tomtom to berlin ,-) 15:27 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:27 < mnemoc> good idea :) 15:29 < rxr> /me booting the dual-core that was sleeping in os x code into linxu again ... 15:41 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEEA69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:07 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:16 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 16:17 < CIA-2> aldas * r15059 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.9 -> 2.2.11) 16:17 < rxr> joerg schilling again flames on linux-kernel 16:18 < rxr> guess if he would know what we patch away in his crap code he would come over yelling too 16:18 < rxr> maybe even to my frontdoor ... 16:19 < mnemoc> cdrecord's author? 16:20 < mnemoc> it seems my problem with wine was ssp 16:21 < rxr> oh 16:21 < rxr> mnemoc: yes, this brain dead cdrecord hacker 16:21 < Baldzius> :) 16:21 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.169.50.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:26 < CIA-2> aldas * r15060 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/ (ar-usage.patch strongswan.conf strongswan.desc): * updated strongswan (2.6.0 -> 2.6.1) 16:27 < CIA-2> rene * r15061 /trunk/package/base/pwdutils/pwdutils.desc: * fixed double [T] tag in pwdutils 16:28 < rxr> Jens Axboe to Schilling: "What is this, kindergarten? What false claims have I made? I pointed out 16:28 < rxr> several you made, to which you had no rebuttal. Then you start playing 16:28 < rxr> "Jens made obviously false claims", huh?? I've had more mature 16:28 < rxr> conversations with my 1 year old son." 16:30 < CIA-2> aldas * r15062 /trunk/package/zope/epoz/epoz.desc: * updated epoz (2.0.0 -> 2.0.2) 16:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r15063 /trunk/package/zope/zwiki/zwiki.desc: * updated zwiki (0.44.0 -> 0.49.0) 16:34 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15064 /trunk/package/ (base/hal/hal.desc network/dbus/dbus.desc): 16:34 < CIA-2> * move prio of dbus/hal up (before gnome-utils) 16:34 < CIA-2> (not tested in fresh build) 16:40 < rxr> shadow does use functions ... 16:40 < rxr> l64a ... 16:41 < rxr> ^- that is a glibc function ... 16:41 < rxr> public one even 16:42 < rxr> though claimed to be in posix 16:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.175.69.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 16:50 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.255.45] has joined #t2 16:57 [Users #t2] 16:57 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-2] [ misl ] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly] 16:57 [ axion__ ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 16:57 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_ ] 16:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 16:59 < rxr> xsane-0.991 released 17:02 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15065 /trunk/package/base/hal/ (ieee1394-lacie.patch ieee1394-lacie.patch.disabled): * disable ieee1394-lacie patch (does not apply) 17:06 < Baldzius> rxr: r15031 17:38 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:10 < rxr> re 18:10 < rxr> mnemoc: what do I need to build eclipse? 18:10 < rxr> is gcj good? or kaffee ? 18:11 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:13 < misl> :) 18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: Eclipse 3.1.2 available for download 18:13 < rxr> hi misl 18:17 < rxr> mnemoc: emerging kaffe builds jikes ? 18:17 < _Ragnar_> >.< 18:17 < _Ragnar_> does udev 0.81 compile for anyone here? o_o 18:17 < rxr> I think it did 18:17 < rxr> what is your error ? 18:18 < _Ragnar_> strnlen undef in diet 18:18 < rxr> if you had an aging udev around youmight need a dietlibc update for strnlen 18:18 < rxr> _Ragnar_: heh - rebuild dietlibc and try again ,-) 18:18 < rxr> I added a tiny as possible strnlen to dietlibc for udev 18:18 < rxr> months ago 18:18 < _Ragnar_> O_O 18:19 < _Ragnar_> why didn't it recompile it then? 18:19 < rxr> by default Emerge does not compare source checksum - just the version 18:20 * _Ragnar_ forces rebuild 18:20 < rxr> the version of dietlibc was not bumped 18:20 < _Ragnar_> ugh 18:20 < rxr> you can add -honor-checksum or so to Emerge and get massive rebuilds 18:20 < _Ragnar_> *g* 18:29 < rxr> if pkginstalled jikes; then 18:29 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--with-jikes' 18:29 < rxr> fi 18:29 < rxr> ah - indeed intended to use jikes ... 18:29 < _Ragnar_> :) 18:32 < sparc-kly> http://winxponmac.com/The%20Contest.html 18:33 < sparc-kly> lol 18:41 < mnemoc> rxr: java-dirtree + jikes (compiler) + kaffe (jvm) 18:45 < CIA-2> amery * r15066 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * changed gcc to not use stack protector for wine 18:45 < CIA-2> rene * r15067 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/kaffe.desc: 18:45 < CIA-2> * removed x86-64 from the kaffee Arch exclusion - does just build now 18:45 < CIA-2> (no idea if it runs anything though) 18:46 < rxr> mnemoc: what do I need for eclipse? 18:46 < rxr> mnemoc: have you seen the update on eclipse, possible upstream? 18:46 < mnemoc> java-dirtree + jikes (compiler) + kaffe (jvm) + apache-ant 18:46 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg eclipse 18:46 < rxr> checking eclipse ... Not installed. Added. 18:46 < rxr> Packages scheduled to build: eclipse 18:46 < rxr> hm 18:46 < rxr> I fear I have no apache-ant, will it break on build ? 18:47 < mnemoc> apache-ant is like 'make' for eclipse 18:47 < rxr> mnemoc: the eclipse.cache looks a bit empty on trunk 18:47 < mnemoc> probably from broken age 18:47 < rxr> mnemoc: do you mind committing your eclipse.cache? 18:48 < mnemoc> minute 18:49 < CIA-2> rene * r15068 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg.conf.example: * removed historic noise from our xorg.conf.example 18:49 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - apache-ant and eclipse scheduled to Emerge ,-) 18:49 < rxr> just for fun 18:49 * rxr just wants to see it starting in 64bit for the sake of it 18:51 < mnemoc> kaffe is not 64bits friendly 18:51 < rxr> mnemoc: the googling indicated it should mostly work there days 18:52 < rxr> and it built now, instead of complaining about missing jit at configure time months++ ago 18:52 < mnemoc> ah good 18:52 < rxr> 11305 root 25 0 59136 36m 3052 R 99.5 7.8 3:17.13 kaffe-bin 18:52 < rxr> hm 18:52 < rxr> looks suspicious 18:53 < rxr> like the on ppc runing quite some time - I fear inf. 18:53 < mnemoc> eclipse took 3:40h the last time i built it 18:54 < rxr> 11305 root 16 0 75804 51m 3080 R 72.6 11.1 5:13.14 kaffe-bin 18:54 < rxr> I fear I can dodge this 18:54 < CIA-2> amery * r15069 /trunk/package/java/eclipse/eclipse.cache: * added cache file for eclipse 18:55 < rxr> mnemoc: you never testing using gcj for our java stuff ? 18:55 < rxr> 11305 root 25 0 79972 56m 3080 R 77.6 12.2 6:21.81 kaffe-bin 18:55 < rxr> .oO 18:56 < mnemoc> rxr: java-dirtree/parse-config doesn't detect gcj 19:00 < mnemoc> rxr: my main problem against gcj that your java libraries are tied to gcc releases, and classpath still inmature. kaffe does 2-3 merges per week 19:00 < mnemoc> mainly bugfixing 19:08 < CIA-2> aldas * r15070 /trunk/package/develop/paragui/ (8 files): 19:08 < CIA-2> * disabled internal physfs for paragui (by default), it caused 19:08 < CIA-2> shared files collision 19:08 < misl> rxr: there is also a good C/C++ eclipse plug-in 19:08 < CIA-2> * copyrights update 19:10 < misl> http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/ 19:13 < misl> rxr: And specially for you they have a cobol plug-in too :) 19:13 < misl> http://www.eclipse.org/cobol/ 19:13 < mnemoc> i started hunting for eclipse to use the UML thing 19:14 < misl> http://www.eclipse.org/uml2/ ? 19:14 < mnemoc> yep 19:15 < rxr> 15182 root 25 0 61532 37m 4148 R 97.2 8.0 0:52.13 kaffe-bin 19:16 < rxr> and my laptop got hot ... 19:16 < rxr> mnemoc: kde has a nice UML tool - umbrello or so ... 19:17 < rxr> drafted my technical comp. sci. courses with it ... 19:17 * mnemoc can't find the source tarball of 3.1.2 19:17 < rxr> years ago ... 19:17 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, but only gaphor on gtk :) 19:17 < rxr> misl: I want my ada plugin ,-) 19:18 < mnemoc> rxr: code it :p 19:18 < misl> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/displayarticle197.html 19:18 < misl> :D 19:18 < mnemoc> OMG 19:18 < rxr> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1.2-200601181600/eclipse-SDK-3.1.2-linux-gtk.tar.gz&url=http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1.2-200601181600/eclipse-SDK-3.1.2-linux-gtk.tar.gz&mirror_id=1 19:19 < mnemoc> smells like pre-built 19:19 < rxr> n oide 19:20 < rxr> no idea 19:20 < rxr> that is what the download entry on the site offers .. 19:20 < rxr> temperature: 46 C 19:20 < rxr> and this should be already cooled down a bit ... 19:20 < mnemoc> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.1.2-200601181600/download.php?dropFile=eclipse-sourceBuild-srcIncluded-3.1.2.zip 19:20 < rxr> humble poor cpu had to execute some useless inf. loop all over and over again 19:21 < misl> http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/plugins.jsp?category=Languages 19:22 < misl> lots of languages are supported 19:22 < axion__> mnemoc: you there? 19:22 < axion__> actually rxr 19:22 < axion__> mirror address changed 19:25 < mnemoc> uhm 19:25 < mnemoc> rsync address still the same? 19:25 < axion__> http://t2sde.yi.org/t2 19:26 < axion__> please update it 19:26 < mnemoc> only rxr can update mirror list 19:26 < axion__> yeah rsync should still work....it's just a vhost 19:27 < axion__> but i suggest to use that address for everything...the reason i changed it is because i may be using that address for my local box soon 19:28 < CIA-2> aldas * r15071 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/ (7 files): * added slmodem/gcc4.patch 19:33 < mnemoc> axion__: ok 19:34 < axion__> mnemoc: i'm not identified...you probably didnt get that 19:34 < axion__> yes 19:35 < mnemoc> ok :) 19:35 < mnemoc> the next sync loop will use that address 19:36 < owl> re 19:36 < mnemoc> wb owlita 19:42 < _Ragnar_> O_O 19:42 < _Ragnar_> Mounting rootfs ... 19:42 < _Ragnar_> Ouhm - some boot problem, but I do not scream. Debug shell: 19:42 < _Ragnar_> what do I do? 19:44 * mnemoc has no idea 19:46 < mnemoc> i guess try to find why rootfs didn't mount :p 19:46 < _Ragnar_> hmm how? o_o 19:47 * mnemoc hides 19:47 < mnemoc> i haven't tried the new technology yet 19:47 < _Ragnar_> oh >.< 19:48 < _Ragnar_> hmmm now mount doesn't come back >.< 19:54 < _Ragnar_> eeeks 19:55 * _Ragnar_ pokes rxr, heelp :) 20:04 < mnemoc> :) 20:13 < _Ragnar_> how do you start udev ? 20:14 < mnemoc> udevstart iirc :) 20:14 < _Ragnar_> in initrd? 20:14 < mnemoc> afaik it does it 20:15 < _Ragnar_> O_O 20:16 < _Ragnar_> that seems to fail 20:16 < mnemoc> i use devfs 20:16 < _Ragnar_> how in 2.6.15.1 ? 20:16 < mnemoc> 2.6.11.12 20:16 < mnemoc> 2.1 branch 20:16 < _Ragnar_> ah ok 20:18 < _Ragnar_> wtf does mount not work O_O 20:18 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has joined #t2 20:18 < Bart-> hi al 20:23 < Bart-> anyone has idea how to debug Xorg in a controlled way to prevent it from hanging the box? 20:23 < rxr> re 20:24 < _Ragnar_> hey rene :) 20:24 < _Ragnar_> my savior :) 20:25 < rxr> _Ragnar_: /me already in bed :-( 20:25 < CIA-2> jsaw * r15072 /trunk/package/audio/mixmagic/mixmagic.desc: * LIBTOOL-QUIRK 20:25 < mnemoc> uhm? why this early? 20:25 < _Ragnar_> >.> 20:25 < mnemoc> rxr: ill? 20:26 < rxr> nope 20:26 < rxr> well - some headache 20:26 < rxr> otherwise just overannoyed of uni fluff 20:26 < rxr> and an exam tomorrow 20:26 < rxr> mirror list updated 20:27 < rxr> gnash does have 64bit issues to compile 20:27 < mnemoc> who your simplicity thing went? 20:27 < rxr> new avrdude does not compile either 20:27 < mnemoc> :\ 20:27 < rxr> mnemoc: talk was so lala ... 20:27 < _Ragnar_> :( 20:27 < rxr> the paper is not that strong 20:27 < rxr> well, it is uni after all ,-) 20:27 < mnemoc> hehe 20:28 < _Ragnar_> >.> 20:28 < mnemoc> but you suffered this thing anyway :) 20:28 < _Ragnar_> haw you hake udev recognise /dev/discs/disc0/part5 ? 20:28 < _Ragnar_> how 20:28 < _Ragnar_> and *make 20:29 < rxr> _Ragnar_: our udev rules to nor provide devfs compat for that over-verbose names :-( 20:29 < rxr> but you are free to add rules for it ,-) 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 54893.000 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 59649.000 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 16571.000 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 3608.000 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 28685.000 20:29 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 80129.000 20:29 < mnemoc> rxr: s/axion/t2sde/g 20:29 < rxr> so - susan is begging my to silency the keys and the fan - n8 all 20:29 < rxr> oh 20:29 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 20:29 < rxr> thought I edited that 20:30 < _Ragnar_> gn8 rene 20:31 < rxr> ah - it is just the text ,-) 20:31 < rxr> overlooked the file includes the hostname in the server info line 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 63282.000 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 61044.000 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 17771.000 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 2363.000 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 35287.000 20:33 < rxr> INFO: Testing ... ok 79345.000 20:33 < rxr> so - ,-) cu 20:33 < misl> cu rxr 20:33 < misl> me off too 20:33 < misl> sleep well all 20:33 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 20:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r15073 /trunk/package/multimedia/maverik/ (compile-fix.patch maverik.conf maverik.desc): * added maverik/compile-fix.patch 20:36 < _Ragnar_> shouldn't udev have some daemon running? 20:36 < _Ragnar_> (got it to boot now) 20:36 < Bart-> how to set my own CFLAGS? information in handbook 19.6 is not usefull at all 20:37 < _Ragnar_> for one package? 20:37 < _Ragnar_> or in general? 20:38 < Bart-> for every package emerged by Emerge-Pkg 20:38 < mnemoc> Bart-: what exactly do you want to do? 20:38 < Bart-> mnemoc, I want to force T2 to use my flags instead of (re)building Xorg with -O2 -g 20:39 < Bart-> if it doesn't work, it should be at least built good ;] 20:39 < mnemoc> -O2 -g is injected to gcc wrapper, so CFLAGS wont change that 20:39 < mnemoc> see cmd_wrapper.txt to see exactly what is executed 20:40 < Bart-> ok 20:40 < mnemoc> see for GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND on other packages for reference 20:41 < _Ragnar_> and GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE 20:42 < Bart-> _Ragnar_, you are probably looking for udevd or /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug 20:43 < Bart-> hey, there is no file cmd_wrapper.txt 20:43 < sepp> or run Config -cfg debug and under expert set optimization 'lazy' and 'build binaries with debug symbols' or so 20:43 < sepp> whatever the exact string is 20:46 < Bart-> sepp, I'm trying to turn off debug ;] but I found only C source: misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c which gives me nothing 20:46 < mnemoc> Bart-: inside src.package.$random/ 20:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: debug is controlled by a Config option 20:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: magicly passed to gcc 20:47 < Bart-> mnemoc, rlocate says there is no such file on entitre disk, should I run some command to get it? 20:48 < mnemoc> Bart-: ls src.package.$random/cmd* 20:49 < sepp> Bart-: ahh ok, i thought you want to get debug symbols ... 20:51 < Bart-> sepp, because I'm looking for a way to see whats inside running Xorg but this is the only package that needs debug but all of them are built with -g 20:52 < mnemoc> Bart-: add SDECFG_DEBUG=1 on top of xorg.conf 20:53 < mnemoc> uhm, no 20:54 < mnemoc> this is set on parse-config.... 20:54 < sepp> i have a target thats the same just with debug options to emerge things ... 20:54 < Bart-> mnemoc, still don't get what about custom flags. Is it really so hard to set them once and forget? 20:55 < mnemoc> Bart-: doing this kind of oddities is hard 20:56 < _Ragnar_> huh? 20:56 < _Ragnar_> it isn't or shouldn't be 20:56 < mnemoc> Bart-: the way of doing oddities is setting your own target 20:56 < Bart-> mnemoc, ok, I'm gonna survive. Can you tell me more about procedure? ;] 20:56 < _Ragnar_> just use GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE to remove the options you don't like 20:57 < _Ragnar_> and then GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT or GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND those options you like in the package .conf 20:57 < Bart-> greping ... 20:57 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: the problem is gcc/parse-config doing the oposite 20:57 < mnemoc> 63 if [ "$SDECFG_DEBUG" = 0 ] ; then 20:57 < mnemoc> 64 var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "-s" 20:57 < mnemoc> 65 var_append SYSGCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "-s" 20:57 < mnemoc> 66 var_insert GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-g*" 20:57 < mnemoc> 67 var_insert SYSGCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-g*" 20:57 < mnemoc> 68 else 20:58 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEEA69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:58 < morfoh> hi 20:58 < Bart-> hi, mnemoc 20:58 < mnemoc> i guess, var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-g' on top of xorg.conf has precedence over gcc/parse-config's GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE 20:58 < mnemoc> *g* 20:58 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 20:58 < morfoh> thx mnemoc 20:59 < _Ragnar_> yes it should 20:59 < mnemoc> but the right way is to [ "$pkg" == 'xorg' ] && SDECFG_DEBUG=1 on target/$target/parse-config imo 21:00 < mnemoc> uhm... wait 21:00 < mnemoc> iirc rene added some undocumented things to Emerge-Pkg... 21:00 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 21:00 < Bart-> hey, setting stuff in every file separatly is an RPM's way of making changes ;] 21:01 < mnemoc> uhm, no... just prefix hackery 21:02 < mnemoc> Bart-: every package is active part of every other package, and the target guide them 21:03 < Bart-> good to know 21:04 < mnemoc> T2 SDE is trying to be as agnostic as possible 21:04 < Bart-> grep: out of memory 21:04 < mnemoc> :p 21:04 < mnemoc> what are you trying to do? 21:06 < Bart-> mnemoc, generally I.m trying to find oou why Xorg hangs: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5a2TMA13.html but in particular, I'm trying to test GCC_WRAPPER_* 21:07 < mnemoc> add var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-g' on top of xorg.conf as review src.xorg.*/cmd_* 21:07 < mnemoc> and review* 21:07 < mnemoc> i was asking about the grep anyway :p 21:08 < Bart-> grep -r GCC_WRAPPER /t2/t2-trunk/ 21:08 < mnemoc> /t2/t2-trunk/package 21:09 < Bart-> to late ;] 21:09 < mnemoc> you don't want to grep inside download/ and build/ 21:09 < mnemoc> ccache files are also no-nice-to-grep 21:10 < sepp> or .svn noise 21:10 < mnemoc> .svn noise is harder to avoid 21:11 < mnemoc> what's the maximal common denominator between atholon and P4? pmmx? ppro? p2? 21:11 < mnemoc> athlon* 21:12 < sepp> pmmx 21:12 < mnemoc> :( 21:13 < _Ragnar_> wtf is Emerge trying to build packages that are disabled in the package list? o_o 21:13 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: -cfg ? 21:14 < mnemoc> ehm... yes 21:14 < _Ragnar_> huh? I did use -cfg 21:14 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg ignore 'O' state 21:14 < mnemoc> it this some rework 21:14 < mnemoc> to only build X deps of X (or installed) packages 21:14 < sepp> hmm i am not sure if ppro means mmx 21:15 < mnemoc> and O deps only for O (and not installed) packages 21:15 < mnemoc> it _needs_ some rework i mean 21:16 < _Ragnar_> it doesn't try '-' tho? 21:16 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: - remove the files from package list, and Emerge-Pkg use the package list 21:16 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: so '-'ed packages are never emerged 21:17 < _Ragnar_> good 21:17 < sepp> like - kde :) 21:17 < mnemoc> :) 21:17 < _Ragnar_> :) 21:17 < _Ragnar_> yea or - pam :p 21:20 < Bart-> mnemoc, you can easily check playing with gcc: gcc -S -v -Q empty.c -march=athlon 21:21 < Bart-> just change value for -march 21:29 < Bart-> these GCC_DAMN_WRAPPERS don't work or I'm too stupid to use them 21:30 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 21:37 < mnemoc> Bart-: are you looking at cmd_wrapper.txt? 21:38 < Bart-> no such file on entire hda and hdb - rlocate never lies 21:38 < mnemoc> Bart-: on build log you will only see pre-wrapped output 21:38 < mnemoc> Bart-: ls src.*/cmd* 21:38 < mnemoc> and paste here the output 21:39 < Bart-> too many lines 21:39 < mnemoc> :) 21:40 < Bart-> the only file found inside *every directory is : cmd_wrapper.log 21:40 < mnemoc> ok, .log and not .txt... my fault 21:40 < mnemoc> Bart-: tail -f cmd_wrapper.log of the current xorg build 21:42 < Bart-> I saw these files before but didn't know what's inside. Used tail -f on log stored in /var/adm/logs 21:42 < mnemoc> and what's the problem of having a second tail -f to a different file? 21:44 < Bart-> mnemoc, I think it works 21:44 < mnemoc> :) 21:45 < Bart-> I was watching the wrong file 21:45 < Bart-> thx ;] 21:45 < mnemoc> np :) 21:47 < Bart-> anyway why lohgs in /var/adm/logs are not the "final" logs? 21:47 < mnemoc> .log vs. .out vs. .err 21:47 < mnemoc> .out catch the output of the build process, as make exec them 21:48 < mnemoc> if the builds goes fine, it's moved to .log, if not to .err 21:48 < mnemoc> make has no idea about what the wrappers do... that's all behind the scene 21:50 < Bart-> it's clear now. I thought that these new flags are passed directly to make 21:51 < mnemoc> nope 21:51 < mnemoc> that's a weak way 21:51 < mnemoc> using wrappers we are sure our directions are honored 21:52 < mnemoc> and that noone will alter them later 21:52 < Bart-> clever 21:53 < mnemoc> :) 21:54 < Bart-> so the only damn thing that prevents me from damn switching to T2 is damn hanging Xorg ;[ 21:55 < mnemoc> have you tried vga driver? 21:55 < mnemoc> to discard a driver issue 21:55 < Bart-> vga, vesa, nv 21:56 < mnemoc> :\ 21:56 < mnemoc> /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? 21:56 < Bart-> I'm occassionay able to run it and kill it normally 21:56 < Bart-> mnemoc, logs are *pretty* 21:56 < mnemoc> :( 21:56 < Bart-> the only debug I have is here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5a2TMA13.html 21:57 < Bart-> I'm not sure why there are -ENOTTY for non-existant file descriptors 21:58 < mnemoc> uhm 21:58 < Bart-> mine working 6.8.2 do not throw such errors 21:59 < sepp> X -novtswitch is broken in xorg 21:59 < mnemoc> Bart-: are you used the xorg.conf generated by xcfgt2 ? 21:59 < mnemoc> using* 21:59 < mnemoc> that one is very minimalistic 22:00 < Bart-> mnemoc, nope, I have minimalistic from xorgconfig 22:00 < Bart-> only few options 22:03 < Bart-> ok, switching to another kernel without initrd 22:03 < mnemoc> try the one from xcfgt2 22:04 < Bart-> brb or cu - depends of the results 22:04 -!- Bart- [n=bart@osiris.osk.enformatic.pl] has quit ["Who's General Failure and why he's reading my disk?"] 22:10 < CIA-2> amery * r15074 /trunk/package/java/eclipse/eclipse.desc: * updated eclipse (3.1.1 -> 3.1.2) 22:25 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF263.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:26 < nzg> moin 22:26 < mnemoc> wb nzg 22:27 < nzg> hi mnemoc 22:49 < mnemoc> any hint to change the pagesize of a pdf? 22:53 < Baldzius> no hints for "Portable Document F#cker" :) 22:55 < mnemoc> using psresize cuts about 1 inch on top :( 23:24 < CIA-2> aldas * r15075 /trunk/package/develop/swi-prolog/swi-prolog.desc: * updated swi-prolog (5.4.7 -> 5.6.3) 23:35 < CIA-2> aldas * r15076 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ (5 files): * updated ndiswrapper (1.7 -> 1.8) 23:56 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF263.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri Jan 27 00:00:32 2006